The Down-Tuning Experiment

Does tuning lower make things heavier?
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[@Kylorfo113]

Didn't down tune the drums 0/10

[@BenMichalowicz]

Thank you!

[@muslimninjaassassin2498]

Wouldn't that break the drum heads?

[@BenMichalowicz]

MuslimNinjaAssassin Nah. Downtuning means loosening the heads. With enough force (but a lot of it), the head would break. But tightening the drum head would have a higher chance, so I think.

[@muslimninjaassassin2498]

Ben M From my time in marthning band we done it a lot every 3 shows I think?

[@BenMichalowicz]

MuslimNinjaAssassin It's happened occasionally with my school's drumline as well, but it's rare, since we don't tune heads that often.

[@sonofbelz]

It's not heavy unless the strings are literally moving like spaghetti.

[@jaedynbagley171]

Down tune your guitar to the point where it can shoot arrows

[@Bilbo_Swaggins0528]

And it isnt djent untill the string are literally made of spaghetti

[@skyrnir]

It's not heavy until the strings reach the floor

[@itspie_playz5723]

S p a g h e t t

[@dylananderson1061]

I tuned my 6 string down to drop e with normal strings. I have no regrets

[@Reesecollins]

Someone: What do you tune to? Me: F standard. Someone: You tune up? Me: Nope >:)

[@jkrsun9218]

TheOddGamer Someone in 2019: What do you tune to? Me: F Standard. 2019 n*ggas: You tune down? heavy bro Me: Lmao naah

[@nooralamgir3703]

I literally tune up to A standard and use a capo

[@horstherbert35]

Just buy a shortscale guitar at that point m8 No shame in that

[@nehemiahzo_]

Tuning down to f standard is awesome

[@glowco.717]

Y'all making jokes about F standard when Rob literally has a song in double drop B

[@IDKIDK-ik4yt]

F# is literally the tuning for an 8 string

[@zetsu12344]

Yeah standard tuning for 8 strong ... though Meshuggah goes EADGBEAD so it is kinda 1 step lower with a minor twick where is interval of 2 steps instead of 2.5 step

[@tom_dilley]

@@zetsu12344Meshuggah only tune down a half step. (F, B♭, E♭, A♭, D♭,G♭, B♭, E♭).

[@kyranlior1476]

Yes, or a 6-string in Architects :)

[@danielmontgomery8353]

666th like.

[@tfwnoyandere]

i play g flat on a six

[@joekelly7108]

"How to turn your strat into a six string bass"

[@KlumSyTurtl3]

Basically

[@nolantis2372]

And how to turn your bass into four string drums

[@icedragonlm]

+Nolantis Lol wut

[@Aarthurnax]

+Nolantis hahaha

[@userPrehistoricman]

LOL

[@SpectacularName]

Drop Q: the closest you'll get to playing on actual spaghetti.

[@charliegyngell6755]

Drop Xflat *gets spaghetti* well looks like im using this 😂

[@tfos993]

I prefer drop π in a shoe lace but that's just me. The tone just feels great.

[@carlscreativechannel6409]

+SpectacularName Epic comment! :D

[@stokesa3122]

+SpectacularName I want to see that now. Actual spaghetti guitar strings. Make it possible, Rob!

[@CVXMAN]

I've actually heard of someone who put their bass strings in a pot of water and boiled them…

[@rogazy1]

Guitarrists: I hate bass guitar Also guitarrists: Drop E

[@RikaFurude6969]

Stolen like 300th time

[@rogazy1]

@@RikaFurude6969 oui

[@hades429]

Sadly I cannot like

[@shlak]

Drop E would be a whole step higher on the rest of the strings than bass tuning, E1 standard is bass tuning

[@tuckerhilbers460]

@@shlak 8 string guitars E Standard is basically a bass because of the E1 A1 D2 G2 C3 F3 A3 D4 and Drop E1 was what he was referring to as in E1 B1 E A D G B E. Unless i completely misunderstood you

[@user-gj3di9wh1d]

2014: low tuning 2015: 14 fret capo metal

[@smollbb]

So i guess Drop Q is how non metalhead people hear metal?

[@KiLLM4CE]

yup.

[@trainsanddominoes1]

Hello fellow Infidel.

[@giancarlonassi8268]

Olex Prost basically yea

[@jwardbass4452]

non metal head people

[@markinette1435]

Olex Prost no bands play in drop q.

[@alexwales8914]

That's not heavy enough I tune my guitar to flat, no note, just flat

[@c-dawgeyee9931]

Alex Wales pfft I prefer drop 786366575849393947784995894938949488394883939 9489593884949394883949838397583993848389393839387655444525336890743887642Zzzz triple flat

[@c-dawgeyee9931]

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[@theyeetmeister4019]

Show me the ways

[@yexas7029]

@@c-dawgeyee9931 I perfer drop ₱¡‽√♠•♦√Ω§¶∆↓°∞ tuned ⅞ of an octave

[@blakemccraven3627]

Jesus

[@harryxiro]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="32">0:32</a> A swarm of flies <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="94">1:34</a> A swarm of bees <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="130">2:10</a> A swarm of wasps <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="190">3:10</a> A swarm of prehistoric dragonflies <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="230">3:50</a> Dad with the belt

[@13_cmi]

😂

[@user-ww3js8ci7d]

Me: Hey Rob, what tuning do you use in that song? Rob: D R O P Q

[@NateMonoxide]

Drop Q? Pah, how about Q standard with the option to drop?

[@user-ww3js8ci7d]

Nate Monoxide how about ZZ standard

[@abrahamlincoln3826]

This is standard q

[@abrahamlincoln3826]

Not drop q

[@abrahamlincoln3826]

Drop tunnings are gay af

[@robscallon]

Well, that got REALLY out of hand...

[@chopleaf]

i fuckin love you ahahahaha

[@DanielS.Agudelo]

WTF!

[@ingriddi6243]

heavy heavy :p ... your fingers o.O ouch!

[@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641]

Sounded like Mortician gone Prog...

[@matheusstratocaster]

Drop Q... DONT GIVE BLACK METAL MORE IDEAS!!!

[@sophieward7225]

It's like following Dante through the layers of Hell

[@joshuarajendran5839]

I can't believe I actually got the reference😏

[@nezia9875]

Me too lol

[@ShadowSloth3]

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[@yrvindell1499]

Great reference! I cant believe someone put it here

[@PureHayabusa]

Very well said. I'd tip my fedora if i was gay

[@rstango]

Plot twist: it’s all in standard E and it’s just a plecibo

[@metalhead8944]

It’s all vibrations man

[@DankoHidalgo]

Plecibo

[@Ch4pp13]

in a pursuit for the heavy, Rob Scallon ripped out his intestines and started playing them.

[@anthonyianmonday]

Chappie now that’s fucking metal

[@talloccasion1562]

that would make one hell of a comic strip.

[@Holagrimola]

Are you saying he's fat?

[@alexis.0569]

Back to the original roots.. or how black metal is, of course

[@ITTAPUPU12]

@@Holagrimola how the fuck is that a way of saying he’s fat? Do you always assume things like this? Do you seriously have no other reason in life other than to be super offended by things you arent even being told? Sad

[@zacgehrman8260]

The "Q" stands for questionable choices.

[@SaintSentry]

The lowest I've ever tuned would probably be Drop ∆, though I've thought about tuning downward to Drop =_=.

[@mfnd502]

Drop Delta. so heavy.

[@UditDey]

So its heavey as shit

[@josephgarland-collins1779]

SaintSentry drop 🅱️

[@TrainsNStuff]

nah, drop 189 is where it's at. 10000000000 octaves lower than drop 🅱️, and you thought THAT was low, it's about 100 octaves lower than Drop =_= and 254 octaves lower than drop ∆. Also, can someone show me how to italic a KZbin comment?

[@jaedenrose6387]

That's pretty heavy but have you ever played in drop þ§æłįøę

[@polarisrust]

When the high E string starts to have wrapping around it you know that you’ve gone too far.

[@gatt0203]

@Riccardo Milliava what? the low e is always wound. he's saying that once you need a high e string that's wound, you know you've gone too far.

[@gatt0203]

@Riccardo Milliava sorry if my comment came off as rude lol

[@D-Man_Jam]

_"If you can't be heavy in standard, you're not heavy."_ -somebody of significance

[@cosimobaldi03]

aka James Hetfield

[@TurtleFL]

It makes Journey listenable, though :-"

[@brandontadday6288]

Sylosis, probably.

[@JoshSmith-xd5fl]

Basically Pantera

[@5usp3c7]

And honestly the riff wasn't that great to begin with.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Well done! Crazy riff, great bass playing! FWIW, I thought it was great around the "C" region, after that, it definitely became a "diminishing returns" thing.

[@JeffBarberDigideus]

***** no... A... unless you are meshuggah, in which case go as low as you like Actually, id like to see meshuggah play Bleed in E tuning and compare that

[@ILikeToColourRed]

i think that might have been a loss of clarity more than anything

[@TomHolloway123]

I liked it most in D# or D

[@themaggot8]

I think that it depends on how you play it, especially the palm mutes and the way you attack the strings. The band Sylosis sounds really really heavy and they play on E standard.

[@paulolson9696]

Juan José Fonseca Godoy Sylosis makes it sound like fucking B standard. It's the combination of adding the fifth below the root while palm muting the fuck out of it and the bass hitting the root. Much respect to them for playing like that.

[@DrakosLord]

If you are one of those who thinks that lower tunings are "heavier", I'll say this: Paramore guitarist uses drop C# tuning. Just for you all to consider it.

[@roddorfj]

+DrakosLord Sum 41 uses drop C# on some songs on their album Chuck, namely "Angels With Dirty Faces", "I'm Not the One" and "Moron". They're good songs, I'm practicing "Angels With Dirty Faces" on bass. But drop C# really isn't that much lower than standard, it's just drop D and a half step down.

[@DrakosLord]

Roddor FJ Exactly! And yeah, I know. Point is that is not the tuning, but the way you play.

[@roddorfj]

DrakosLord It's worth noting also that those are Sum 41's heaviest songs.

[@placeholder6517]

It's also worth noting that drop C# is one semi-tone lower thand Drop D. Which, ummmmm, isn't exactly pushing it in terms of down-tuning.

[@roddorfj]

Rafael Irias Ochoa This. It's a half step lower than Foo Fighters.

[@logancamp8399]

Personally, I think that every riff has a tuning that it sounds best in, which usually ends up being the original tuning it was written in. To me this riff sounded best in Eb/D#, but some people will disagree, and at the end of the day everything we do is subjective and there's no real "right" answer.

[@GamingInfested]

real right answer is when you play finished song and it sounds FUCKING awesome

[@narglarph9820]

i play drop [REDACTED] and this is the least heavy stuff i have heard.

[@AnkothOfficial]

ER reference?

[@faselblaDer3te]

I prefer tuning my 20 strings octo-sub-guitar to AT LEAST ü. ü flat is better.

[@higaindane]

+faselblaDer3te How many octaves down from standard is that?

[@naram-sinofakkad3156]

+Lavaz666 666 octaves

[@higaindane]

Kaiyn Benzedrine br00tal

[@CastleFsUczN5nnK]

+Lavaz666 brütal

[@spottedstar1123]

djent all the way?

[@megamountainman5230]

I have one question about the Golden Gate Bridge. Does it djent?

[@BirdNoise77]

!!!!!

[@franciscopalacios8602]

😮sometimes😮

[@Skidmark0303]

only when people jump off of it.

[@megamountainman5230]

Sergio Flores That comment makes you deserve to be able to do that. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity!

[@teodora3153]

BUT DOES IT DJEEEEEENT

[@theblindguitarist5897]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="226">3:46</a> when your high e can replace your low a

[@awonderingoneil206]

*E standard?* What is this witchcraft? Drop Z# is standard tuning surely.

[@nigel7779]

A wondering O'Neil loser I only tune to Zb on the highest string

[@XXiloveemmaXX]

Oh, I thought it was drop 9b

[@matiasandres2319]

WTF THE DROP Q

[@azrael8924]

Q Q Q Q Q Q for the 6 string version

[@dillonsmith5386]

Solaire No, it has to be Qb, Qb, Qb, Qb. Qb, and Qb for the 6-string version..

[@azrael8924]

Dillon Smith Rb Rb Rb Rb for bass

[@dillonsmith5386]

Yasss

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

Djoes this Djent? Watch my vid Djenting a vintage BASS VI double drop D, maybe it's what you need?

[@holiday1149]

Psh. Drop Q. Rob, is that the heaviest you can go? It should be more like Drop ß.

[@maxmelo329]

Naw man drop ًميجصةءء•٢٥٥ is the heaviest

[@sleightofhand1599]

+The Brainiac no... Drop💩 is the heaviest

[@druid5931]

+Sleight of Hand you ruined it

[@nikospagonas]

+Sleight of Hand you fucked it big time

[@AlexH4774]

Nah man, drop Ъ is where it's at! You can't even pronounce it!

[@benjaminbarbosa5261]

If you like to make the comparison between one tuning and the other: <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="14">0:14</a> - E <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="32">0:32</a> - D# <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="51">0:51</a> - D <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="71">1:11</a> - C# <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="94">1:34</a> - C <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="112">1:52</a> - B <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="129">2:09</a> - A# <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="153">2:33</a> - A <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="171">2:51</a> - G# <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="190">3:10</a> - G <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="208">3:28</a> - F# <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="229">3:49</a> - ?¿

[@klavier0875]

The last one maybe is Drop E

[@spencersolomon709]

I perfer to tune my guitar to drop off a cliff

[@RexBarca]

I prefer drop Z tuning myself

[@pranavdhokre8980]

i go drop z# always

[@user-qn8rg3sv6j]

+Pranav Dhokre i always tune in to drop DJENT

[@willukyagronk]

nah gotta be quad drop z for tr00 djent

[@pranavdhokre8980]

CYBORG POTATO drop it 5 times to make it djent tr00er

[@SheppardOfFire]

I always go for Drop 0 flat myself

[@Onionbagel]

After a certain level of down-tuning it just starts sounding like bass.

[@sirhuebertcumberdale5959]

Or death

[@david55509]

+Sir Huebert Cumberdale death bass

[@MTThought]

+Sir Huebert Cumberdale or soot and poo.

[@martinr7728]

+Zoink foo i must disagree

[@sadberto7430]

+Zoink foo Sorry I know this hasn't anything to do with what you wrote but when i change tuning do i have to re-set up the truss rod?

[@justfred1121]

Drop Q is just Technical Grindcore.

[@cherresoda]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="225">3:45</a> and this is where the G string becomes a lamp post

[@thomasduncan7759]

This turned into a Jared Dines video

[@revostilla]

Yep

[@simplesimonh123]

Thomas Duncan this came way before Jared dines started doing this.

[@thomasduncan7759]

Da Guitar Guy I know that but still

[@AlexH4774]

Except it's funny

[@thomasduncan7759]

Ivan Lunev got that right

[@tristanmahler4471]

Drop Q is the tuning Dillinger Escape Plan plays in.

[@tristanmahler4471]

It sounds like shit, is what I'm saying.

[@monsterfukk7737]

Tristan Mahler So basically you're so obsessed with DEP that you bring them up when literally no one was talking about them.

[@tristanmahler4471]

Monster Fukk If that'll let you sleep at night, sure.

[@tristanmahler4471]

***** They all have talent but it's not pulled together in any coherent way. I love math metal, but it still has to sound like music for me to enjoy it.

[@scottmckinstry1698]

Tristan Mahler Absolutely. My brother is obsessed with The DEP. Its playing all the time at our apartment. That's when I go to my room and crank the amp. Gotta drown that audible piss!

[@GreifvogelSGE]

I like D to C the most, everything is still intelligable and the bass hits hard. B is fine too. Anything beyond that is just unnecessary in terms of string cost etc

[@BeefGeneral]

Greifvogel agreed. C# has always been my favourite

[@GreifvogelSGE]

@@BeefGeneral I think Bolt Thrower plays in C# right? Sounds so good

[@movimentodoscacos]

C and C# forever. But some bands do manage to go lower than that and be listenable. Mainly when playing slow genres. Doom and Sludge metal for example can sound amazing.

[@GreifvogelSGE]

@@movimentodoscacos I've been playing in Drop A on my new 6-String for 2 months now and I was surprised to see that I can actually play pretty clean using the new EB Mammoth Slinky

[@tfwnoyandere]

g flat is best

[@audreyn1996]

At Drop Q, Junji Ito’s Kuruzou took over the headstock

[@ulasgursoy2838]

plebs... I play on quadruple drop µ. Nothing on this earth can create the sound and even if it could no living being could hear it.

[@MyNameIsNidos]

That’s it? I once tuned down to drop Д̸̞̰̣͈͈̪̌̔́̽̀̓͋͜ and threw up from how heavy it was

[@idk4529]

Drop №‽¡₱Ωπ§∆✓ sharp is what I use, peasants.

[@nemvallalomanevem7798]

No doubt

[@magicsteve5523]

I play a 95 000 000 piece drum kit with the reso skins tuned to exactly § flat major on every second peg and § sharp minor on every other peg.

[@jensdebondt4753]

I play bridge cables

[@rljeric]

This video proves that heaviness comes from the riff more than the tuning. To me this riff just wasn't heavy, so no amount of tuning lower will make it heavy.

[@venrakdrake]

Honestly i think it sounded heaviest/best in standard E

[@matheusscher832]

venrakdrake agreed

[@RangoTangento]

Yes, I believe it has to do with the tone of your guitar.

[@Leo28039]

I think the drums have more to do with the heaviness than the tune itself

[@sataniccyanide6976]

RelativelyLargeJohn Tbh the riff sounded like smthn youd hear in a death song.

[@Fenrir1398]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="37">0:37</a> was that a SKYPE notification?? I had to replay that like five times because I thought it was my phone

[@atherdos4431]

?

[@mastertrey4683]

And thats what it sounds like when a guitar player plays bass

[@codylujan]

If your band isn't playing in Drop Q, sign to a pop label.

[@RobertHeadley]

Down tuning to the extreme seems to mud up the notes. Definitely heavy, you can feel the riff, just not hear it as much.

[@Ghost17110]

I personally just believe that this mix/playing is not tight at all. There are so many bands tuning down to Drop C, Drop A, Drop F, etc... that have such a clear and open tone with great clarity. This video, however, is the opposite. I even found it hard to listen to in standard.

[@Tzalmavet]

Mason Stanley It also depends on the guitar as well. Having good pickups and an extended scale length helps the clarity of the lower notes. The types of wood that the guitar is made out of should also be taken into account.

[@RingAnimated]

I can agree there. I originally wanted to go with GDADGBE and instead ended up doing ADADGBE because of too much muddiness. Also still get some muddiness with the ADADGBE but that might just be because of the small 15W amp I use and/or my FX unit itself. lol

[@shomest2239]

Robert Headley that is partly due to the guitar itsself. Single coil and active pickups don't come through clearly through distortion on the really low frequencies, and usually the pickups are designed to handle extremely low notes come on extended range guitars. His equipment just isn't meant to handle anything really past C#

[@shomest2239]

Robert Headley that is partly due to the guitar itsself. Single coil and active pickups don't come through clearly through distortion on the really low frequencies, and usually the pickups are designed to handle extremely low notes come on extended range guitars. His equipment just isn't meant to handle anything really past C#

[@Chris-Courage]

I find myself watching this video at least once a year because it's so dam hilarious.

[@tom-vx6bu]

this riff has haunted me since i first heard it

[@myhorrorfestevil8292]

I like how you only use the top 3 strings but still changes the other 3

[@DarkPeter]

Omg

[@susie8577]

Yes, because tuning one string effects the tension of all 6, so you have to.

[@Holtender102]

He actually uses 5. Look at the fucked up chord at the end of the song

[@Holtender102]

Or 4

[@Immariolopez]

My Horror FestEvil found he beginner guitarist

[@tarkenton3895]

Pfft, you only play Drop Q? What's happened to metal these days?

[@userPrehistoricman]

lol that's great

[@brxken_bvtterfly]

wonder why nobody uses drop x

[@tarkenton3895]

sword slinger Please. Drop Z0 only

[@brxken_bvtterfly]

Right right of course

[@GoldRaptor00]

+Aerin Draconis The Fox drop ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@beanman2206]

There is something about D and B standard that I REALLY love... I don’t know what it is

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

I once tune my guitar 100 step up, now my guitar weight 0.00000001kg

[@connorsmith75]

Wouldn't drop Q actually be really high?

[@rameynoodles152]

It's so low, that it dropped off the front of the alphabet and looped around to Z, then kept falling till it got to Q.

[@tormenttor2733]

Sean Ramey twice

[@fatuousmusic2822]

Cooner Smaff *Top 10 Questions Science Can't Answer*

[@JayFFAFAlesanaES]

Depends on the octave.

[@furryz666]

I have a bass player in my band

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

Mark Ferrizzi lol

[@grugamerZi]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="237">3:57</a>, holy shit, i laugh so hard!

[@shaheer1112]

dude! I lived in gurnee illinois for so long. Its awesome to know that u and I used to live in the same town.

[@danielxdoom3642]

The "drop Q" tuning actually offered an interesting effect. It sounded pretty cool. I guess down-tuning doesn't really offer much in the way of 'heaviness,' but still makes sense in terms of transposition.

[@themightymcb7310]

For everybody claiming that downtuning really makes you "heavier", it does not. The way that you play, the theory and scales you use, your guitar, amp and signal chain, and your rhythm section are what really determines how "heavy" your metal is. Look at bands like Lamb of God, Children of Bodom, Pantera, and Testament. None of those bands tune lower than C# Standard or Drop C. Lamb of God stuff is in Drop D or Drop C#. Children of Bodom is in D Standard or Drop C. Pantera is anywhere from E Standard (Cowboys), D Standard (Vulgar and Driven) to C# standard (Trendkill). And a lot of Testament is in C# Standard. These guys make some super killer heavy riffs without downtuning the guitar more than one and a half steps. Pantera even has a fucking amazing breakdown written in E Standard in their song Domination. After a certain point, you can't even make out specific notes or changes in pitch without compressing the tone to high hell. Some djent bands (mostly Meshuggah) are cool and pretty damn heavy, but mainly for their killer polyrhythms and Haake's drumming, not for amazingly heavy riffs.

[@klisterable]

+Jake McB

[@higaindane]

+Jake McB Dimebag liked to tune down a quarter step from whatever tuning he's in.

[@themightymcb7310]

Lavaz666 Yes, I know that. But saying E Standard was a little bit easier and more understandable than Quarter-Step Below E Standard.

[@themightymcb7310]

***** And then look at Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God. Every single track on that record is either in Drop D or D Standard, and I'd argue that as one of the heaviest records I have ever listened to. I agree, heavyness is 100% style, and 0% tuning

[@themightymcb7310]

***** Oh? Well look at Bleed. 8 String guitar, tuned to F# Standard, but the main riff at the beginning is played on the E string anyways. And to simulate the 5th fret B string bend later in the riff, you could bend behind the nut. All you need is their Axe FX setting and some serious skill and that riff would sound just as good on a 6 string

[@musicfan8867]

First time watching Mr. Scallon. Nice riff, skills and humor

[@blahblahsen1142]

i still love this video. every time. it inspired me to tune my first act to drop D#0

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

vDjoes this Djent? Watch my vid Djenting a vintage BASS VI double drop D, maybe it's what you need?

[@1999Dman1]

Now i know what pure distortion sounds like

[@MusicalPhoenix]

how about you do uptuning? :D

[@josephddd117]

That could damage your neck and truss rod. Would also be terrifying.

[@MusicalPhoenix]

i know i was just kidding

[@wviampero]

+SomethingDifferent If you try to go 10 tones higher of course it will, but a couple tones up with 09 - 42 strings won&#39;t, and also you could just use a capo. It gives a whole different mood to some songs, specially when you are used to hear them in their original tuning.

[@MartaRzehorz]

Varg did it...

[@Thrashtildeath19]

+Phoenix Daily the highest I've tuned up is g tuning but i usually tune to f

[@rayrayisgod]

It doesn't make it heavier but it definitely effects the overall mood of the song

[@jotapedonoso4696]

Ah yes, back to the classics. This riff is still imprinted in my heart and brain to this day

[@012jacob012]

I honestly expected to hear a much bigger difference in heaviness. Makes me rethink why all of those metal players are in drop b and drop a

[@GoldRaptor00]

this was a fairly poor example because single coil guitars tend to lack the depth and bottom end that guitars with humbuckers have, especially lower tunings

[@012jacob012]

yeah, I guess that's true, but their are still a small handful of metal players who use single coils

[@WaylonMorley]

This guitar has a humbucker in the bridge position

[@012jacob012]

oh, kinda hard to see with the camera angle

[@GoldRaptor00]

Waylon Morley the model of humbucker matters too. stock humbuckers on guitars, usually the generic ones - like Fenders - have awful low end the lower you go. high output HB's like the Nazgul and EMG 81 have much better sound for those low notes

[@themanwithamission]

That poor guitar. I hoped it was burned and laid to rest after this.

[@124avenged]

..LAY THIS TO REST

[@124avenged]

CONSOLE YOUTSELF YOURE BETTER ALONE DESTROY YOURSELF SEE WHO GIVES A FUCK

[@ElKimesito]

@@124avenged IF THERE WAS A DAY I COULD LIVE

[@broondjongen]

@@ElKimesito IF THERE WAS A SINGLE BREATH I COULD TAKE

[@ElKimesito]

@@broondjongen I'D TRADE ALL THE OTHERS AWAY

[@isaiahsarzoza5714]

A is so menacing, I love it

[@holaquetal3085]

Wów, those *scallon* ed frets must play fantastic

[@isaiahgomez4074]

i feel like there's no legit reason to dislike rob scallon besides jealousy

[@ericksheldon3870]

Isaiah Gomez Correct.

[@coffinfeeder7732]

I disliked because the riff didn’t lend itself towards the experiment in the first place, rendering the video as pointless. It just wasn’t heavy in any tuning.

[@SmelvinFernsby]

Joe Jane aren’t you just special

[@DenSvartaStjarnan]

That fucking Yousician ad is so damn loud...

[@xanatgarcia9241]

Ikr

[@5carecrow94]

YOUSICIAN IS DA BEST WAY TO LERN PRAKTIS AND MASTUR DA GITAR. Jeez, that's such a crock.

[@PanasonicTooth]

You

[@almondtart]

lmao it's intro when you open it is so fucking loud i stg

[@DavidJohanssonSN]

Yousician is trash anyway.

[@HAELLEN_HATECORE]

It's so weird coming back to this video now that I play in drop C1 on a baritone jazzmaster

[@Cattledestroyer]

I think this should be redone. With fishman fluence pickups and a horizon drive or something like that

[@Miloman5599]

Ha I think D# sounds the heaviest

[@marcusthemusicman7907]

The D# tuning reminds me of slayer to be honest

[@Miloman5599]

Yeah they have been known to use B and A# as well

[@berenhamilton3321]

I think they just played E standard in Show no Mercy

[@dub_2953]

Miles Hodges no, A#

[@charlescampbell5894]

Go Raiders!

[@virtualnuke-bl5ym]

Oh god drop Q just sounded like farts.

[@LukiaTheTrue]

Try to imagine... that's what seems to sound a classic Metal song for a non metalhead... you know when they say "it's just noise"... I think...

[@Scoffslaphead72]

guess you could say it we've found the brown note.

[@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL]

Not heavy enough.

[@TheArrycool]

hahaha

[@noahfaber8303]

The actual tuning is "Drop Ass"

[@ColvinAvianBreadline]

You need to do a three year anniversary of this video. It's amazing!

[@plumpdy5810]

The tuning and the distortion settings is what makes something heavy to me

[@InThaZ0ne]

drop q tuning=spaghetti strings

[@ittdust]

InThaZ0ne So... you don't want to sound like Korn?

[@jarofpickles3456]

Duston McCreary Or at this point sounding like Messugah. XD

[@thomaspierpoint449]

I really hope your joking

[@jarofpickles3456]

well their song titled spasm sounds messy so yeah.

[@LouisMinett]

InThaZ0ne 'The Church Of Spaggy' approves this.

[@jjptech]

C tuning sounded really good for this particular riff you are playing

[@whiiitepony]

Sick riff!

[@iStevenPlays]

Clear tone drop 70’s man. I love em.

[@DavidJohanssonSN]

Brown note, anyone?

[@adrenochromejunkie]

Man, I dumped ass!

[@brianhart9409]

STEVE T YOUR THOUGHT I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE✊

[@2010mcclain]

+Mister Babadook Stevie T

[@FullConcerts100]

C# is my favorite. Any lower than that and it's gets hard to hear any of the notes clearly

[@aaronmilenski6385]

***** Sunn O))) tune to Drop A and if we could hear all their notes clearly I think they'd feel that they'd failed.

[@pyrofritte7584]

***** i just think it depends on the people , for some people sounds anything shitty which is higher than B standard . my personal liking is between D/Drop C and B/Drop A

[@collinwelch4423]

It's called djent

[@RGYGO]

You can always use thicker strings and less gain on your amp when you're down-tuned. It definitely helps with the clarity.

[@Dysergy]

Shibo He that and a combination with rolling off some of the mids in the bass to give the guitar space to breathe in a mix

[@jskrilla989]

I think the drop A tuning was the heaviest it had a good balance that definitely was head banging worthy

[@Manu-tt3wn]

It's been 5 years since this was posted, and I can still hear the truss rod begging for help

[@jonathansefcik473]

Tuning doesn't really affect the heaviness of a song that much. The three things that really matter are the composition itself, production quality/guitar tone, and (only if its not an instrumental) the emotional impact of the lyrics/vocals. There are plenty of songs I've heard in standard tuning that sound way heavier than many 7 or 8 string songs.

[@juanmanuelcorrea7673]

Exactly! The composition, in my opinion, is the biggest factor of the heaviness of a song. Take Peace Sells...But Whos Buying? the album. Good Mourning/Black Friday is extremely heavy mostly due to the composition. And the song is in E standard 1/4 down.

[@ddavis_drums]

But does it djent?

[@cacullamiercale591]

Probably

[@TheExtraTuber]

The last one for sure :D

[@creatorshadow8343]

Drake Davis yes yes it does

[@memes9524]

No

[@lowqualitystockimage.mp4643]

nah only drop ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) djents

[@alfonsocaro7221]

You should make a song with this riff. Sounds awesome

[@hopefulhyena3400]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="154">2:34</a> Hey look, rob made a video on the baritone guitar. Was wondering when he'd get to that. For those who don't know, baritone guitars are tuned A to A instead of E to E.

[@greatcommandment]

and there is me, using 11 daddario strings for everything between E and A-Drop

[@torrance80]

To me it kind of worked, but anything after "C" Isn't really worth doing

[@DarioVarasG]

Jim Root and Mick Thomson disliked your coment

[@torrance80]

+Dario Varas G Hey, they have a couple songs in Drop C so idk man

[@NotLuigi]

F# really does sound good, Slipknot play in F# for most of their songs. The reason everything past B sounded like shit here was because the tone of the guitar wasn't changed so it just got muddier and muddier

[@saucyjack1375]

+luigikiller1000 slipknot plays in drop B -_-

[@NotLuigi]

Thunder-Light X They play in multiple tunings. Drop A, Drop B. F#

[@andrewleiser7539]

C# and b were my favorite sound tuning

[@tonyflamingolindsay4984]

there is a certain chunkieness that drop D# or D standard has, but its not heavy to say. and either way dropping just the (soon to not be) low E highlights it better.

[@cacohenriquez]

E to B sounds good, lower than that is just stupid.

[@Mike-pf9zc]

But... korn...

[@Mike-pf9zc]

+Kai Burns ikr. but... peripherererererery

[@Mike-pf9zc]

+teknon my I personally prefer 7 strings down to about A flat. anything below gets too muddy. 6 strings I usually do E standard to B.

[@MetalBro]

unless you're Karl Sanders

[@illgetbacktothat2291]

Slipknot goes to drop A

[@crusherbanshee]

I found it interesting that sound didnt seem "heavier" to me, i did notice that i liked the sound of some tunings better then others. I really felt my ears perk up at d# and c#.

[@bazdesh]

It is the key.. Guitarists seem to be way too used to E/D etc., these flat tunings sound much fresher for our ears...

[@piedrahitac]

Same here, there wasn't an evident difference in terms of heavyness, but some keys really brought the riff to life...

[@llla_german_ewoklll6413]

Why am i watching this? I don’t even like metal. Your videos are too infectious!

[@TIYX]

It all depends on what metal sound you think is heavy. Some people call the high gain high treble solo play on the high strings around the 14th fret to be heavy. Others call the open string thumping on the low E string to be heavy. If you are a fan of the high treble metal sound stay with light strings and standard tuning. If you are more of a fan of the low end more bassy sound then tune down and go with 11's.

[@southofheck]

TUNE IT DOWN TO H FLAT

[@TheGreatPumpkin]

THAT SONG IS SO HEAVY!

[@TheYellowSmartie]

it makes me want to punch a tornado!

[@frentzen100]

H flat is basically A#, or Bb, which is a common tuning on 7 string guitars :D

[@frentzen100]

I know :D

[@frentzen100]

I know :D

[@zidnyzidan]

D sharp is the same as E flat right? :/

[@bradydent2396]

Sure is

[@stewartross13]

Zidny Zidan congratulations you used your brain

[@Ewilliams25]

Yep

[@andrewfletcher4329]

Yeah

[@champtimble9807]

Yeah which is why its more fun to ask people to play a B# Scale Instead of a C scale

[@pizzleybear8562]

I've had this riff stuck in my head all day...

[@Eichro]

I wanted to watch this video again but missed the link, thankfully this is the first video to show up when I search "Drop Q"