The Downfall of Drag Race Untucked

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Alyssa vs Jade and the "backrolls?!" argument, Willam vs Phi Phi, Everyone vs Mimi and Serena. RuPaul's Drag Race untucked has given us some iconic moments.
Throughout the years, what was once an explosive, crazy viewing experience has turned into a dull, meaningless 20 minutes. Untucked has been a staple of the Drag Race series since Season 2, but as time has gone on, it has become less and less important to the show. "You're only getting half the story" isn't the case any longer.
Today, we'll look at the biggest differences in Untucked and maybe why its success has waned throughout the years. We'll ask if it's even worth having on anymore and if it should be replaced.
Let me know what you think in the comments below!

[@MaggyRarefication]

The #1 issue for me is when the guest judges always visit in the middle of the drama just to say the same things every time and disrupt the fun chemistry and banter between the queens.

[@cinnamonroll96]

I think that’s annoying too. it’s clear they want to interrupt before things get too heated or resolved to quickly. So they chime in and drama is hopefully continued next untucked or whatever.

[@michaelr289]

Hate when queen fighting on drag race

[@dmatt339]

And literally every guest judge that comes back says the same thing. “I’m so inspired by what you all do, blah blah.” Feels very forced and virtue-signaly to me.

[@spectre5307]

​@@dmatt339 that reminds me of when Tiffany pollard came in s11 and instead of saying something inspirational she asked all the girls about waxing her 😺 ☠️☠️

[@CarboneCat]

I remember that Dita Von Teese waited for the queens in season in the golden lounge but the queens never showed up because they were too busy quarreling.

[@orange9107]

The celebrity guest judges going in to profess their bravery in allyship is so cringy its horrendous

[@dmatt339]

I just made this comment somewhere else here. It really is so forced. They’re all like, oh we heard the red states are coming for the drag queens so we’re suddenly all so inspired by the bravery of what you do” and it’s bizarre. Like these queens lip sync and pop their pussies for dollar bills (more power to them) and guest judges act like they’re saints.

[@salvatore2004]

"celebrity" meanwhile its someone who no one knows and they probably have less followers than the queens.

[@bluecircle06]

"I hope you are so proud of what you do!🥺🥺" Yeah ok who and who, now get tf out of here💀💀

[@bluecircle06]

​@@salvatore2004💀

[@remconet]

Like Every. Single. Episode!

[@noelmsp007]

"If you're not watching Untucked, you're only getting 89% of the story"

[@11pyrrhus11]

More like 99.99% of the story

[@boinggerss1560]

@@11pyrrhus11you forgot to factor in roscos which now has entered the universe of the story telling 😂

[@RealLordVoldemort]

I saw a comment saying something like "If you're not watching untucked, roscoes, pit stop, watcha packin, the queens social medias then you're only getting 10% of the story" And that made me laugh. Its so accurate

[@collinkilloran5721]

@@RealLordVoldemortand fashion photo ruview

[@noelmsp007]

@@boinggerss1560 if only Eliminaysha would calm down and start acting like the 3x eliminated, 5 episodes-total-in-two-seasons rugirl she is- instead of this rpdr insight guru she pretends to be. 😌

[@RunnerEye]

Either bring back the different lounges and shady minigames they used to play ORRRR if they are insistent on it staying low budget, just include it in the main show like Drag Race UK 😤

[@lan1135]

Hey RunnerEye will you be my dad

[@aaronlevesque8173]

Very this!

[@samthepancake69]

hi runnereye, you spoke facts and the truth

[@alejotinganell5653]

The pink one so terrify

[@vv8mp]

​@@samthepancake69han jisung

[@agcaoiliproductions9580]

Didn’t Katya say “When did people start thinking Drag Queens were nice?”

[@SweetJackknife]

So fucking true. Doesn’t excuse SOME behavior but like… drag queens are notoriously shady I don’t get ittttt

[@anthonyd9844]

When gen z and gen alpha began derailing the fun of the show and trying to get drag queens to be besties. No real drag queen is like that hahaha

[@user-xr5kp6qz8g]

I agree, but I think there's a different between being catty and funny shady and being an asshole and bullying other queens for the fun of it and messing with their minds

[@Viewer962]

@@user-xr5kp6qz8gThat is catty, this isn’t rupauls best friend race. Fans have forgotten this is a competition, they should be playing mind games if they want to. Drag Queens aren’t “nice” we’re treating them all like role models when they’re there to make good tv and compete. If they come there and want to be a saint and be that role model that should be their choice. As long as outside of TV they’re being professional it doesn’t matter. It’s tv, it is fake! It’s about time people stopped putting these queens on pedestals and acting surprised when DRAG QUEENS of all people are shady bitches that love drama.

[@chrisspike3282]

@@user-xr5kp6qz8g So you don't agree, stfu

[@metacrisis47]

international seasons usually just lump untucked into the episode before the judges make their decisions. it works 100x better because they usually just condense whatever drama or fights into like the 5 or 10 minutes before the winner and bottoms are called. keeps the drama on screen, you don’t have to watch another show, it flows super well and you don’t have to sit through celebrities telling queens to “be who they are” or the eliminated queen packing their stuff.

[@bluecircle06]

Fr. Drag race phillipines probably has one of of my favourite untucked of all times. Mainly becuse queens qre not afraid to be shady nd messy

[@dissonantdreams]

@@bluecircle06Philippines is just the best drag race franchise in general ❤️

[@m00nrac00n]

​@@bluecircle06As a european who grew up with filipino neighbours I can quite confidently say that filipinos just slay in general...everyone is playfuly shady, boots.

[@FabiolaMacabre]

Yes that’s why I prefer some of the other international versions. Also it doesn’t feel as forced for dramatics like the American version feels

[@lhhh88]

Watching the girls discuss who's in the bottom for the whole untuckes when we already know who got eliminated just feels pointless...

[@ccckmp]

Agree

[@katiesims2220]

I know Trixie Mattel made a video on her channel talking about the production at drag race… but she said that editors will edit to point out who’s in the bottom and who’s in the top, but while the queens are there they really can’t tell what’s gonna happen since they don’t see the big picture. They don’t realize until after they get their critiques when they do figure out who’s likely going home.

[@uswish.]

That’s why i watch later so I can pause the main episode and watch untucked

[@grantmegan91]

​@katiesims2220 I don't think the comment is saying that the queens already know whos gonna be eliminated. They're saying us as the audience don't want to hear them ponder over who is in the bottom /eliminated when we just watched the show before untucked so we already know who's leaving. It wouldn't matter so much if it wasn't all they talked about during untucked.

[@sarabellaaa]

I pause the video as well then switch back 😂😂

[@AnRuixuan]

Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling. In all seriousness, you definitely aired so many of my frustrations with the current Untucked format. The guest judges visiting back stage in particular is something that I can't stand pretty much every time now, regardless of if it's interrupting a fight or not. It's just unnecessary. One thing I do like in current Untucked (which I think is a holdover from old Untucked but I forgot) is the eliminated queens packing up and reflecting on their time at Drag Race. It's always nice to give the queen one final send-off before they go home.

[@Stephenjosephbell]

Haven’t even started the video and I can confidently say the problem with untucked is the fans Also them sending in the guest judges right as the girls start to get into it is so annoying

[@remconet]

It's not "the fans", it's a very select group of adolescent insecure children that are hormonal and all over the place, prioritizing their time to come up with new pronouns.

[@maximeminassian6002]

The untucked this season basically peaked in episode 3 with Plane and Amanda argument and now the Plane’s in her congenial era it’s much less interesting.

[@FabiolaMacabre]

Yeah , cause she’s not very interesting unless she’s being a bitch 😅

[@rohankirk8712]

Just give us two rooms Willam screaming "bar queen" from the other room or Dita von Teese just sitting there as PhiPhi and Sharon fight it out was peak

[@CallMeChrisYT]

Omg yes! We need the old style untucked back😊

[@noelmsp007]

The overtly sensitive new fans are ruining drag! Plane Jane is getting dragged for being a "bully," meanwhile Raven and Raja have been favorites for over a decade 😒

[@beardedqueen]

Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling.

[@rasmusmalmberg6468]

Even queens like Dawn and Mhi'ya who are less confrontational are called "bullies" and "bad people" by these ridiculous fans. They care more than the queens do about the drama and they make the social media scene exhausting. People were commenting on Dawn's comment sections that she was a bad person and going to hell, all because she was shady and the advice she gave Plasma didn't help her. It's insane.

[@yvonnenoel7206]

I have been saying this for years. The 12 year old little girls and wet-behind- ears Twinks seem to think that Drag Race is a Fashion Show. Most of them have NEVER been to a show or don't even know their local Queens, because they are too young to go to a bar. I wish Drag Race never became mainstream.

[@itsgabbybtch5587]

Bitch where? Plane is a fan favorite, most people are rooting for her. I feel like I'm one of the few people that's just neutral on her. Mhi'ya is the only one really getting shit due to her sending home everyone's musical theatre fave.

[@twannifufu]

The new fandom is very unaware of drag culture. They don't engage with drag in the same way as previous generations. Their primary courses for drag are this show and social media, which does not give a full picture of the art form or the culture.

[@Anthonydbrown13]

My two criticisms of the whole franchise is it seems less punk and alternative compared to earlier seasons and almost feels like it has become the show it once used to parody.

[@birchiebaby]

this, very much. drag race is such a low-key corporate environment now with the mainstream economic success. girls are thinking about reputation, merch, song streams, and touring instead of acting a clown and walking children in nature. also the whole undying love & respect they need to have for rupaul... i want queens standing their ground and less RuCult

[@bbwbutt]

Realest comment

[@ChillHills]

It’s definitely changed from its humble beginnings on Logo. It’s nice to see the growth. But the challenges are becoming too sanitized.

[@viki7268]

Literally! At this point, you're better off watching the Roscoes viewing parties if you want the “other half” of the story lol

[@grantmegan91]

Even that drags on and on sometimes. I just watch drag tea served with Matt for the roscoe recaps 😅. Also I stopped liking naysha after her and her fans attacked that KZbinr who uploaded clips from roscoes and talked about it. Lots of transphobic stuff hurled at the KZbinr that naysha up voted 🙄

[@ChillHills]

@@grantmegan91Looks like Matt will be getting more followers after the most recent video Roscoe’s uploaded.

[@tetrabelle]

I think you're right the fandom is the biggest issue. No one can even win a lip sync without getting death threats much less have a fight.

[@angeltheekaiju]

literally my only issue with this season of untucked is that every judge is being made to go in and try and have a lady gaga moment and it just breaks up the flow. untucked is about the queens having time to themselves, "backstage" in their own space. So many interesting moments this season of untucked have been interrupted by the guest judges being made to walk in and have the most uninspired interactions with the queens...

[@Koenig_Luiz]

I mean how hard is it to put the girls in two different rooms and entering unanounced in the middle of a read😂

[@remconet]

Ah, the card board rooms. Those were the days!

[@tombullard123]

Right like some girls to go to the werkroom, some into the untucked backstage waiting area then mix them midway

[@MotherGapshin12]

We will never ever in the history of mankind will have another untucked moment like Mimi vs Everyone in All Stars 1. I genuinely miss the poor quality camera from early seasons and the dramatic ass sound effects and insane editing...I mean remember that one edit where it seemed that Jinkx was telling Ivy that she loved her?

[@m00nrac00n]

"You👉🏻...Mimi Imfurst👉🏻...MIMI IMFURST👉🏻...Got Number *Third* in the voting?🤨...I dont believe it.❌" "Dont attack my Fans, B*tch. 🦚" "From the sh*t that Ive seen, you dont have that many.💁🏽‍♀️"

[@yo_gabygabba]

the best moment in one of the worst drag race seasons 😭

[@Ennegro]

Season 11 to me was the grand final of untuck. Yviee vs the cast will always be peak untuck for me. 1. Keep celebrity messages on a tv screen. 2. Bring back the family messages ( loved those ). 3.Separate the queens into different lounges. 4. Let them fight it out.

[@Ari-gp3im]

Honestly Yvie had a lot of my favorite untucked moments ┐⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠｀⁠)⁠┌

[@ehna8558]

Cause them girls was always fighting😂😂😂😂

[@Alvaral11]

I think the difference is that production used to separate the type of reality show they were doing back then between Untucked and Drag Race. Drag Race was a competition reality show like Project Runway or American Idol, and Untucked was more like Big Brother were production expected the queens to do drama, fight and/or interact with each other. Now Untucked is an extention of Drag Race, it's a sort of recap to what we just watched on the episode, product placement for House Of Love Cocktails ™️, have the guest judge show up "unexpectedly" and if there's time fight. It looks and feels scripted and produced, it's not flowing naturally anymore. Also, the fans don't want a villain because they are the villains. They think that the way to show support to their favorite is to destroy another queen.

[@dissonantdreams]

oh wow, that quote “the fans don’t want a villain because they’re the villains” just sums it all up for me!

[@lizaechelon]

Latest Canada's DR season was a masterclass. Juicy moments, shady editing, great pace. Never felt a need to check my phone (which happens during the 2/3 of untucked)

[@sondheimisGAWD]

I watched Canada’s Drag Race 4 Untucked WITH GRATITUDE

[@andre.andrade91]

Except for the cast and the winner💀 The only interesting things were the beaver twist and Melinda, season was very predictable and the favoritism for the winner was so on the nose, to me it's a prime example of good production but poor casting

[@bluecircle06]

​@@andre.andrade91truly. Miss melinda literally saved the season💀💀

[@lizaechelon]

@@andre.andrade91 agree!

[@haunted14]

Glad you brought up Gaga because she’s really the one celeb who went back to talk to the queens and who gave actual good, substantive, well thought out and well meaning advice and critique. Her and Tiffany Pollard are the only two judges who I appreciate in untucked. Miss Gaga for her realness and honest, good advice and Miss New York for asking about bikini waxes. Like, Miss Pollard really just wanted to kiki with the girls and I love that for her lmao

[@alexavo98]

im just soo curious from a production standpoint why they keep bringing the guest judges backstage - the queens don’t like it and have to fake being excited, clearly the guest judges are forced to do it and the audience HATES it - and surely it means they have to pay the celebs more for their contribution? Like WHO gains?!

[@jjfrank]

To fill time because nothing of interest is happening

[@cuppapablo]

Untucked now is: Safe queens discussing tops and bottoms Tops and bottoms enter, tops get their applause and bottoms get a chance to vent. Celebrity enters and performative chat happens which includes: -Praising the drag queens for being drag queens (bravery, drag is art, etc.) -I love drag and/or drag race -gay rights -advice for the queens, solicited or not Bottom queens learning lyrics and get pep talks from their friends. Eliminated queen reads notes from friends, packs and leaves. And yeah, back in the day the alcohol was flowing. But the biggest change is that the audience feels entitled to destroy queens on social media they don't like for whatever reason. So yes, queens have been more aware of what and how they say things. Editing themselves to death to avoid being on the receiving end of the hate. What people need to do is accept that this is a TV show. Whatever these people say and or do to each other is between them and no one else. Just because it's on TV doesn't give us license to insert ourselves. If a queen does something to a queen you like instead of attacking, how about go show some love to the queen you like instead?

[@CURohrer]

I really like how they do it in UK where the “Untucked” is built into the episode. You get the goods and lose all pointless time-filler.

[@FlimsyPickles]

Instead of a celebrity judge it would be cool if they try out this idea for one season: a previous rugirl is the guest and she is the “moderator” for untucked and can give her experience and advice. She can also stir the pot and get the drama out. Also, it would show previous girls from the show have give them exposure!

[@grantmegan91]

Kinda like when Katya showed up for the most recent all stars when they were working on a challenge... she seemed to try to get some tea out of the cast but it didn't go over to well because she was acting so manic and silly.

[@jennifermolinary]

I didn’t understand why I didn’t enjoy untucked these days and you just put it into words for me.

[@DelTashlin]

I liked season 7's untucked because it felt like no one was vamping for the cameras. The moments of Katya and Ginger goofing off on the loading ramp...hilarious without any *performance*.

[@movieboy01]

Every video. Derek: "Hi, I'm Derek." No one: Not nobody: Me, sings: "....Hey Deeeerek..."

[@mrf018]

so predictable now: Queen A: omg who do we think is in the bottom?? Queen B: yk well I felt good but not according to my critiques Queen C: *drink slurps* Queen A: girl yk you slayed so whatever Queen B: thanks girl *C List guest judge enters* C Lust Celeb: what you guys are doing here is amazing like i love how empowered you all are Queen D: thanks queen Queen D confessional: 'what [C-List Celeb] said is so validating ugh it ios so important now more than ever Prod: "sorry yall we gotta take [C-List Celeb] back to the panel" All: Bye C List Celeb! Love you! Queen B: ugh let me go learn this song girl Queen E: yk what I think I will too ugh Prod: 5 min warning! Queen C: okay let me get my heels back on

[@jjfrank]

If I have to hear another guest judge say “drag queens are super heroes” when there could actually be drama, I might lose it.

[@ratazana1]

Totally agree with the guest judges. They unnecessarily hog the spotlight. But I really appreciate how Joel Kim Booster chose to sit on the side instead of in the middle like all the other judges. He understood that the queens should be the focus on untucked.

[@martins9813]

bring the separate rooms backkkk

[@kaylasays]

where am I? how did I get here?

[@raemonmedina7870]

This isn’t the rigged recap

[@carsonreid3871]

Omg celeb sighting!!!

[@11pyrrhus11]

The vast majority of the blame for the decline of Untucked can be attributed to the people who find it acceptable to send so much hate and death threats to queens.

[@reginaldclarke1758]

"Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling."

[@vbittencourt]

Tha bad behaviour of the fandom dont come only from 13 year olds. There are adults behaving like idiots too :(

[@izzyjoshuadavis]

I hate that we will never get villains and people fighting on reality TV anymore. It's truly sad.

[@jaykknight2248]

The celebrities literally come in and say mama kudos to you for saying that and leave.

[@honeyangel0800]

Nice video! I’m glad you talked about it. The new untucked definitely has its own starter pack now especially with the guest saying something like “you guys are so brave for what you do. I love you guys” etc.

[@overnightsiren]

The downfall can be broken down into three simple things: 1) the queens don’t have separate rooms anymore to talk shit in 2) the guest judges coming backstage removed any and all drama and seems to always happen during the juiciest moments 3) video messages from home also remove drama 100% of the time Honorary mention to so much screen time dedicated to the eliminated queen packing up.

[@yiorgosorion]

They should make it the way it used to be when we literally HAD TO watch untucked to find out what or why sth had happened. Also, there used to be these cuts from untucked in the main show and we were like “omg we need to watch untucked cuz it’s gonna be juicy” Lastly, definitely get rid of guest judges talking to queens about the same thing over and over again!

[@xviolaa]

They done fucked up Untucked when they started sending B list celebs into the room the second it gets heated. Idm if the guest judges wanna meet the girls but there is surely a better way to do it

[@texlyr3457]

thank you for speaking up about thissss. all your points made sense.

[@sunnygolightly9996]

Here is a reminder that although they are not as explosive as early seasons untucked, season 8 and season 9's untucked are just as entertaining as the main show.

[@mixedberryfebreeze3844]

Literally spit nothing but facts. Only thing I will gently push back on: I’m okay with them not pushing alcohol on them as much as reality shows did 10-20 years ago. I think we can get great drama without Jujubee s2 Black Velvet lipsync levels of drunk 😂 (that being said, that was iconic)

[@ignaciojoelnexlsoncanas29]

People are hypocrites. They want drama, but at the same time, they criticize it.

[@cuzitsnecessary]

Exactly ...Drag Race, Survivor, AND Big Brother use to be so fun when we had drama now it's tame.

[@ignaciojoelnexlsoncanas29]

@@cuzitsnecessary I remember watching survivor and it used to be so good

[@chris18560]

I stopped watching Untucked when I had to chase down episodes on whatever new streaming service or network the show itself was airing on. Once I fell out of the habit I didn’t bother watching even the regular TV seasons of Untucked either. Sounds like I haven’t missed much.

[@jesscorner6381]

Having a horrible day at work so I’m very excited to listen to this!!

[@CrazyH0bag]

Yeah I need the guest judges to stop coming in and talking to them, especially when things are just starting to become spicy. I would also love if they cut out the queens packing up at the end. That's 3 minutes that could be used for more untucked lounge time. I find the packing up so boring, so I don't even watch those any more.

[@cuzitsnecessary]

There was multiple times this season Plain Jane was gonna get read and the guest judges interrupted! 😡 Let the queens play out their drama it makes for the following episodes worth watching, WOW/Rupaul!

[@ko8026]

The pit stop could be a could replacement maybe

[@wulyfs]

always love your videos, so insightful, you offer really thoughtful feedback and show such a love for what the show is and what the show could be. hope things feel better for you soon!

[@Brandoncye]

Uploaded 36mins ago!! I'm early! Love your videos! ❤ thank you so much for giving me content to watch in-between episodes of DR! ❤❤❤

[@JkatBlue]

Instead of this version of untucked, they could play the Hey Qween interviews of the eliminated queen that week (they they currently show on WOW+) and Whatcha Packin

[@zak5697]

Untucked in its current form is Unwatchable, and it’s almost completely a production problem. Curious to see what you say about it

[@bluecircle06]

I won't say unwatchable (especially this season), but...yeah not great💀

[@wintertingz]

I NEED another how likely queens would be on all stars video!

[@brittv420]

yes i feel like i missed out so much by not having access to the earlier season’s untucked episodes. meanwhile with the new seasons it doesn’t feel like missing as much 😅

[@andreapannone4321]

CAN'T BELIEVE DRAG DUEL'S COMING BACK IM SO EXCITED

[@cinnamonroll96]

Omg perfect video for my iftar meal :)

[@bucy]

So proud of you, instead your backdrop being completely wrinkly now it is only wrinkly in the lover right corner! You are doing great sweetie!

[@Ben-iw9gs]

Thank you Derek

[@jesiahhubbs7216]

Girl for real!!! My bestie and I used to be so excited to watch untucked so we could see the real drama, and now it’s like, wtf?!

[@nicojimenez9614]

tl;dr - blame it on the audience, their hyperfixations and chronic unemployment.

[@nsjhdhdhdbhsudgvdydb7751]

Thats super oversimplified, tv culture has also changed so has knowledge and awareness of mental health, i dont think many queens want to make a big scene on national tv knowing the impact it will have on their future mental health. Also stop being classist to unemployed people.

[@stanloona8953]

Derek I live in Sweden and the seasonal depression is so real 💀 it’s dark for so long and it really creates road blocks for even some of the smallest things.

[@dawnrowlands2408]

Good morning, Stanloona. As soon as the clocks go back and the nights start drawing in, I feel it too. At least here the nights are getting lighter, trees are budding and the spring flowers are out. Hope you're doing OK. Sending you positive thoughts from the Welsh border, hope you have a good day from an Internet stranger.

[@jamoore418]

I agree with everything you’re saying, but I don’t want the solution to be to get rid of it. 😢 I wish they would revamp it. I genuinely loved it almost as much as the main show back in the day and I miss it so much

[@tapiokaox1044]

Thanks 4 Ur videos. I enjoy them so much. Saludos from México Derrick. 💛🔍

[@frenchhufflepuffie83]

It's better when it's part of the actual episode tbh

[@lilhonor5425]

I think the OG untucked is also from an era where reality tv was allowed to be more heavily produced. Also love the psylocke/captain Britain shirt!

[@henriqueantunis4646]

I feel the same with depression. You're not alone

[@Alatorre05]

It was very entertaining in the beginning, it's just they cut that Amanda vs. Plane storyline wayyyy too short with no real payoff either since we didn't even get a lip sync between the two. They could have easily carried that dynamic for way longer than they did. It's one of my biggest issues with this season is that major storyline getting cut just as it was getting good.

[@Em-uy9wj]

I still go back to the ten year recap of untucked all the time. It’s less than two minutes and better than any single untucked since then haha

[@lollydolly4590]

Yayyyyyyy I’m so glad drag duel 2 is happening and I think it’s a great idea for everyone’s mental health to film it ahead of time ahaha On a related note and in regards to this video, totally agree that things can’t change until fans do

[@valleyval7]

I agree with everything you’ve said… I used to record untucked and never even watched it and now I don’t even bother recording it.

[@JoaoGabriel-tx7bm]

As a person who didn't watch untucked (I thought it was a silly show that showed the queens hanging out, basically what it is today) while I marathoned all the seasons, I really missed a lot of the story. I watched some of untucked after I finished season 11 and a lot started making sense to me, it definitely felt like I missed something, by not watching it. Today its just a side show if you wanna see the queens being friendly.

[@blackjackal8770]

I LOVEEEE when you talk about Survivor!! Im begging you to start a suvivor channel or make more videos comparing both drag race with survivor LOL I'd eat that up!

[@ikarabout]

this is honestly your best take yet. very well done

[@liatmalishkevitz557]

I think what you said is pretty accurate, but if nothing is working for the editors so they just have to put on crazy dramatic sound effects, and show a lot of untucked exclusives. looking back now in the old s2-6 untucked, the editors back then did a painstaking work!

[@tlightsylvan]

Sooo super duper excited to hear that drag duel season 2 is underway! I was just thinking the other day about how much I missed tipping the drag duel queens after each episode. Loved the talent so much. I know that it will prolly be a while before the show is ready to air but I’ll be waiting! 🎉

[@damniellemonster]

Also the quotes in the intro now - I don't recognize a single one! Lol they don't even use the most iconic new fights (like Maddy v Jasmine) 😂

[@flygirl4029]

Honestly the other half of the story is at Roscoe’s 😂 I watch every Monday lol untuck is such a chore to get thru especially those boring ads 😒😂

[@youmeandgravity]

My friend group has consistently been walking out of the viewing party immediately after the main show ends

[@erikm8372]

People are so annoying that they don’t know how to feel these days. On one hand, you would think everybody is all open-minded, modern and “free“, and “live and let live” and blah blah blah. And yet the more entrenched into society the media and entertainment becomes, it seems like people struggle even MORE to separate it from reality, which is weird to me. The reason why older seasons of shows, Untucked included, could “get away” with stuff (which, let’s be honest, was never really that serious) was because people knew it was entertainment. They’re not dumb; even if some of the drama was real it wasn’t concerning the viewers-clearly it was drama between the people on TV… Like Shangela and Mimi. Who’s gonna get offended by that, that’s between them. People are so dumb. Also - if being “nice” and respectful is the case, why are the same ppl offended by every little thing, yet they turn around and do something seriously hurtful and offensive to someone close to them?! Or even worse-to someone who BELIEVES they’re closer than they (apparently) are. It’s like, people get offended but then they do what they want anyway, and say what they want all the time… and we’re just supposed to deal with it? Out of respect for them? Btw I’m talking about in real life, real relationships and encounters, not necessarily celebrities.

[@heidepark3268]

I also really like the season like canada and uk, where they are integrating untucked into the episode. They just cut in the funny and important parts and that’s it. I think that this way they can decide if something worth mentionable happened. And they can put Whatcha packing or Hey Queen after Drag Race

[@aldwindelatorre5135]

Make the pitstop host a regular judge and have the guest watch the filming of that episode so that after every elimination they'll film the episode to have more personal opinion on the show

[@carlosriveraauthor]

Part of the reason my husband and I love España and some of the non-English seasons is that in other countries we tend to be more raw about the way we interact. So we get a much less sanitized version of the show that is closer to what it used to be. The US gives great seasons, but we already know the real drama is gone forever.

[@emmymatt]

Hi Derek I hope you see this. I want you to know how much light you bring into my life with the content that you put out. You are very funny and entertaining and kind and there is something about listening to other gay people talk about drag race that fills my soul. You've been legit getting me through some horrible days at work. Not to sound parasocial but the podcasts and videos you put out bring me a sense of community which I'm like deprived of currently bc of circumstances. I really hope things get easier for you. I hope that you get to experience the joy that you bring to people's lives while making this content. Just wanted to let you know all this means a lot to me. Hope I'm not being too corny haha

[@ikerfuk_]

Just a slight disagreement. Silver and gold rooms shouldnt ALWAYS be separated between safe and top/bttm. Add a little spice into the mix throwing queens around to make some odd pairs happen. A season like S16 would have queens separated almost always the same way and that would get boring real quick. Other than that, full agree.

[@theoriginaltyler]

I used to religiously watch untucked but lately it’s hit or miss. Like you said, usually it doesn’t add much to the story lol

[@LightCosmos]

There's a reason why the saying "If it aint broke dont fix it" exists Like i literally cannot understand why they changed it when it gave them so many iconic moments; i mean its not like it was on accident, it was clear they thought about it in detail, with splitting safe and critiqued girls, the safe girls having games and video-messages to pass time since there's gonna be less drama with them just being safe ect... Like unless it was a money thing i just cant understand it (tho i dunno how a full on studio would cost less than two small rooms 🧍🏻‍♀️)

[@corvidsRcool]

It is a money thing. They're just in the werk room now, instead of a separate studio split into rooms with all the different furniture and fixtures.

[@essgee621]

So many other franchises just put the Untucked parts in the episode and I think we could just do that, and then maybe have like an aftershow or something...even like having pit stop as a show but making it higher budget and having the eliminated queen have a segment on it every week could be cool too

[@corvi_dae]

For me the good drama just gets posted by another account later. That is all I care about. The guest judge conversations are hit or miss but for the most part I don’t care about them.

[@jw5397.]

I think if the show was just more upfront with how it’s edited and that the audience shouldn’t take the drama seriously or hate on the queens then it might help with the backlash from the fans

[@joshie4849]

Omg, FPR with the looks being looked at up close by Raja and Raven on similar displays to the ones on Whatcha Packin and maybe an interview with the designer of the challenge winner or top toot?

[@lia-DR]

actually the way I found Drag Race was through the seasons of Untucked which were available on youtube - the drama was so entertaining and prompted me to sign up and start watching the show!! i've always been very disappointed that Untucked no longer lives up to it's previous seasons but i hadn't considered the reasons for it before

[@yo_gabygabba]

bring back more then one drink rule PLEASE

[@nickinewnham2437]

King derek has uploaded

[@RobinPochita]

Yesssss I always rewatch those season 7 and 9 untucks. It REALLY felt like hanging backstage with the queens.

[@cinnamonroll96]

I think bc of the digitalization esp in the last few years, queens get a lot more hate directed towards them. I don’t think 2024 or today is the problem per se or that fans are necessarily different now. I think if social media back had been the same as it is now, queens at that time would have gotten the same amount. Bc i don’t think “fans” were less hateful back then but just had less “opportunities” to hate a queen or make it known to the queen that they are hated, if y’all understand what I mean? So I think the main problem in terms of fan reception / queens reactions to that, is that now queens know a lot more if they are hated! Only jaremi was found by fans left and right even at that time and with the full on villain edit, it didn’t help. Such a tragedy honestly that jaremi gets blasted in the season as a villain where the hero to that story full on is a villain. Even with willam, more than understandable that she was at her wits end with that girl.

[@alicemichaelis9468]

I don’t understand how YOURE not a producer. Like deadass I stay loving all of your ideas for this show.