The Downfall of the Big Gold Belt (x2)

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[@wrestlingspremier]

I wanted to make this for a couple of weeks, we got it done ahead of another video so I'm dropping that video next. The title needs more love, it's one of the best designs, It was under alot of icons and it's unfortunate that the title lost it's value as time went on. What did you think of the Big Gold Belt?

[@DanielDeLeon69]

I still think it's the best design for a belt

[@babarazamsucks]

Well one thing is that it is my favorite design for a world championship belt. Certainly one outside of the WWF/WWE. There is the winged eagle belt so competition there.

[@premiumdude8353]

do a video on how bad the women's revolution was.

[@concretejedi]

GOAT status

[@antmck99]

There's no downfall. It's about making money. New belts make money. Besides that, it did very well. Everyone cherishes that belt more than any other belt

[@kadharefinley224]

World Heavyweight Championship looked so nice on HHH, Batista, Randy Orton, CM Punk, Undertaker, Edge etc. Take me back to those days 💯

[@RGF91]

Perc Angle too

[@gotittv2625]

@@RGF91 also Chris Benoit

[@pleaseshutup7053]

@@gotittv2625 the best of them all

[@solidraven6986]

​@@pleaseshutup7053 eh

[@pleaseshutup7053]

@@solidraven6986 Chris Benoit is 4 real

[@thehoshangkoul]

The Triple H vs Batista trilogy was the peak of the big gold's prestige IMO. It made batista into a main event franchise player and also had the most compeling storyline at that time

[@alberthenley2988]

Only cause you probably didn't grow up watching Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes in the 80s.

[@damarkomoore5236]

Idk that edge vs taker feud in 08 was amazing

[@Slugger2492]

HHH held the World Title like he was Ric Flair and it worked. Batista proved that he was a main event talent when he held it. Edge almost became synonymous with it but nobody wore it better than Undertaker.

[@Mega_Collosas]

Undertaker never had a memorable world title run let alone a world heavyweight championship run

[@Slugger2492]

@@Mega_Collosas I never said he did he just looked better with it. But his run after after WM23 was pretty memorable for me.

[@night6724]

@@Slugger2492 IDK Batista and Edge looked the best. I kinda wanted to see Taker win the spinner belt lol

[@Slugger2492]

@@night6724 u sound crazy

[@JeseMdeO]

I disagree, Batista is whose synonymous with that belt and who it looked best on. He was also always champion or facing the champ so always around the title.

[@jordannewsom3606]

The belt derailed when Swagger held it

[@AilMusa-dv6ug]

Yh Idk why people saying that khail is bad champion he was a top guy he beated taker clean and was treated a future world champion

[@toxicgoat341]

​@AilMusa-dv6ug he had 0 talent and boring matches

[@BrockSamsonVB]

@@toxicgoat341but the title was still in the main event scene

[@toxicgoat341]

@@BrockSamsonVB because they used khali to build up batista

[@BrockSamsonVB]

@@toxicgoat341 yeah but either way khali was firmly in the main event when he was champion, jack swagger 2010 is when the title went down to the midcard

[@chris_zed7425]

I miss that original design. The new version just looks like it came from the black market. Also i noticed the belt looked smaller and the strap looked red in the back around 2011. Batista Triple H Edge Undertaker and Kurt Angle were some who looked better with this belt than the WWE title

[@holyother1]

Can’t forget Bookah T sucka

[@alec2000]

The World Heavyweight Championship to this day still remains as my all time favorite championship in ALL of wrestling. All the classics we got for this belt, all the wonderful and legendary champions who held it, such as Edge, Undertaker, Batista, HHH, Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, and many others, and just overall, it is the pure definition of a championship. I’m glad it’s back, and here’s hoping it is given justice, with Seth, AJ, and many potential new champs.🤞🙏

[@theghostshadow8855]

Mid card championship #3

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Styles said it’s a secondary belt 😂

[@theghostshadow8855]

@@pleaseshutup7053 secondary means mid card belt

[@pleaseshutup7053]

@@theghostshadow8855 exactly 🤣🤣 styles called the new world title a midcard belt too funny

[@heelgill]

Roman has held or has a photo with the World Heavyweight Championship on Raw in 2014.

[@dark_knight_dj]

Batista holding it was a thing of beauty

[@malachiharris1103]

Hot Take: Del Rio's second reign as World Champion after the double turn at Payback is very underrated.

[@supersaiyansnack201]

I agree

[@BrockSamsonVB]

Yes his feud with Christian was great and the RVD feud was fun and kind of surreal to think about in 2023

[@toxicgoat341]

Both were and I know imma get hate but I miss del rio

[@jordannewsom3606]

Big Gold Belt is easily my favorite belt of all time

[@Tsunami_Symon]

Honestly, wwe should've given that MITB moment to Kofi Kingston or Christian back in 2010, Jack Swagger world title run was a huge letdown.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Christian or Matt hardy

[@terrancecarmichael619]

I wouldn’t of hated Drew McIntyre winning either, although he might’ve still been too young.

[@Osman-kv1vw]

​@@terrancecarmichael619nah Benjamin should've had won or even dolph

[@terrancecarmichael619]

@@Osman-kv1vw Benjamin winning would be good by that point he was buried and put over everybody else. It would take more than the briefcase to bring him out of jobber status like his lack of mic skills still hindering him.

[@Osman-kv1vw]

@terrancecarmichael619 well he wasn't technically a jobber he was a well respected mid carder on ecw and smackdown And mic skills roman didn't have it until his heel run

[@eduardotrejo6331]

I remember that day I saw Jack Swagger holding the title, I was so pissed off. That moment the title felt like the upper mid card championship

[@galarthenry1450]

Man I love 09 Smackdown the world title and ic title were front and center. Championship that meant something and main evented PPVs and shows. LOVE IT

[@pleaseshutup7053]

When main events of ppvs were given to the hottest storyline

[@Osman-kv1vw]

​@pleaseshutup7053 yh 2009 hardy and punk was the best with randy and cena

[@AilMusa-dv6ug]

​@@Osman-kv1vwyes

[@savagedarksider2147]

Vince never respect it because it wasn't his creation.

[@Mega_Collosas]

Atleast it headlined many ppvs including wrestlemanias and SummerSlams..but it was never gonna matter more than wwe title to Vince

[@wijinsama]

I mean to be fair the WWE title also has been disrespected a couple of times. Especially when it came to the Universal Title.

[@damarkomoore5236]

Yeah the wwe title was clearly the B title from at least 2017-22 as the universal title was held by brock and roman for a majority of the run and it rarely main evented any ppv let alone wrestlemania in that span.

[@wrestlingspremier]

we got a long one for the next video, I was working on it originally and feared that I would take too much time, turns out, I wasted more by focusing on this. AJ Styles' 1st title reign from 2016

[@harveymcelroy9332]

Bring it!!

[@BrockSamsonVB]

I’ve thought about this over the past year or so and I feel like without a doubt, what sent the big gold belt down was when Swagger won it bc the year before that punk and Hardy main evented summerslam with that belt but once Swagger won it, everything and everyone that followed was underwhelming or looked at as a B champion or as a “thank you” run for guys like Kane Big Show & Mark Henry, 2010 is when it lost its luster for good

[@darkundead]

I loved the old big gold belt. The new one looks really nice, but the old one is better. It fits perfectly with Batista.

[@markdejonge937]

my only complaint about the new one is the logo and globe is to big

[@joseph.taylor305]

The big gold belt had some underrated matches

[@PrimetimeBennyD]

Wonder why nobody ever mentions how the belt literally got smaller as time went on. By the time Cena had it in 2013, it wasn’t even “big” anymore. The plates were as small as any other belt 10:42

[@ousmansano21]

True but the 2011 version is the best one imo

[@lestatlunar]

I dont get why wwe shrinked it. It was fine from 2002-2011.

[@MidNightMass402]

the belt was destined for BATISTA 6’5” 325lbs a true heavyweight

[@MovieEggman]

Putting the WCW title on David Arquette definitely was the worst decision in WCW, even Arquette thought it was a bad idea.

[@trentparker3701]

I'll be honest putting the TV title on him would've been the better option

[@MovieEggman]

@@trentparker3701 at that point in 2000 the WCW TV Championship was pretty much worthless at that, it be like putting the WWE 24/7 championship on Arquette.

[@cotopaximusic]

​@@MovieEggman exactly, put a worthless title on a non-wrestler instead of the biggest title

[@DOLLAMAC190]

The one HBK held was the best looking version. I also like the fact that you showed a picture but didn't say anything about Randy Orton being the youngest to hold it or even that he held it. Smh

[@dangollapalli5113]

Edge really made the title what it is imo

[@lordkratos6093]

"ADR and Swagger seemed like it was a US Title match!" OMG it should've, based on the story 😂

[@Mega_Collosas]

ADR held the wwe title first

[@mattb6369]

The World Championship was absolutely special, problem came after Wrestlemania 27 (where it was in the FIRST match) when the Brand Extension was effectively over and it became a less-prioritized Championship than the WWE title barely more relevant than the Intercontinental and US titles. A few did their best throughout 2011 to keep it feeling special like Christian, Randy Orton, and Mark Henry... but sadly by the holidays it got to a lackluster point it would take a couple years to recover from (basically Cena winning it helped but was too little too late)

[@AceBeatz23]

Ok so i agree to an extent. When the WHC was on raw with guys like hhh, Benoit, hbk, Batista etc it was looked at as THE title. Cus at that same time the WWE title was on smack down with cena and JBL and Eddie. It wasn’t looked at as THE title. It all depends on who’s holding it. It wasn’t ALWAYS looked at as the secondary title. Depends on what show it falls on and who’s booked to hold it.

[@savagedarksider2147]

To be technical; the rock never held the world heavyweight championship while he did held the WCW title.

[@wrestlingspremier]

Yeah it was the WCW Title, the WWE one didn't come in until 2002

[@divineskillz7313]

Batista looked amazing with that championship around his waist

[@cardboardbox4093]

the world title in 2000 was so wild wrestling with wregret made a 13 minute long video on it lol

[@DanielDeLeon69]

Hopefully at Night of Champions Seth or Aj could bring some balance to the new world title!🤞

[@BigDaddyJones420]

Sheamus reign is underappreciated..

[@DavidArteaga-Skeez]

The downfall began as soon as Rey Mysterio held it.

[@DannyBoy426]

Wasn’t expecting this video. Different from the norm, I like it. 💯

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

The Big Gold is the most iconic title in wrestling. The prestige it brought between 2002 and 2012 from Triple H to Chris Benoit to Edge to Batista to Undertaker to Jericho to Michaels. 2013 onwards it was the demise of the Big Gold and the title completely disappeared after Brock Lesnar destroyed John Cena in SummerSlam 2014. How will WWE book the Big Gold this time? We'll just have to wait when Night of Champions happens.

[@arrownoir]

I’ve always preferred the World Title to the WWE title. Something about it looks more prestigious and grand.

[@Random_Name_07]

That title look good on Goldberg and Batista.

[@gregwelsh2985]

You make excellent videos. Keep up the great work!

[@PortilloBrian]

And this is why the WWE titles shouldn’t be bouncing around. They become props ! Imagine if this current Roman had the big gold

[@Sbournazian1]

You should do the rise of the new day from there debut to basically 2020 when they stopped full time.

[@alaooooy7]

Vince is a criminal for taking it away from Christian after 5 days from winning it! He's one of the best and most entertaining wrestlers ever and deserved much more!

[@SonBlackHeart22]

I feel like Swagger's reign was the downturn for the big gold belt I never bought him being a main eventer at that time and taking away what made him special and making him a serious diet Kurt Angle did not work out. And as well making the big gold open most of the ppvs and Manias was not a good idea too

[@savagedarksider2147]

Yep(...) Shawn Benjamin should have won that year's money in the bank.

[@e93sports80]

Randy Savage won the WCW World title 4 times. Which sounds impressive. Except all of his reigns didn't surpass a month. One lasted for only 24 hours because he got injured the night he won it.

[@damaniresida6439]

And hogan took it from him

[@teemimika7105]

Mark Henry hall of pain run probably the closest the title get to main eventing the show

[@michaelholmes1919]

No way that new belt will follow the same lineage as the original Big Gold Belt. The fans won't allow it. The only reason why they created the belt in the first place was for damage control- as they have Roman holding the real belt hostage. Once Roman relinquishes the real belt, the new one will get treated like the 24/7 title over time, or get merged again.

[@CARL_093]

I think as long as they keep the push on the belt maybe it could get a acceptance to the fans Ric flair Triple h Hbk Batista Randy orton Edge Undertaker Rey mysterio Cm punk This were the men who have been holder of the gold belt

[@wrestlingspremier]

it has alot of respect

[@silversilva7555]

Late 2008-Early 2010 was the best time for the World Heavyweight Championship, given that it was the title defended in most main events of PPVs. I always think of Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk and Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels when those years in WWE come into mind.

[@geraldisaac7997]

Most RR winners chose the world title to go after. I think all besides Cena in 08 and Orton in 09 (he was about to go for the WHC in storyline though).

[@Villainz]

The Championship Belt GOAT!!!! You literally FEEL the power of it when holding a heavy replica lol💪🏾💚

[@RGF91]

2:55 same goes to Austin

[@MRoccoMarzullo]

Orton and Edge deserve alot of credit for carrying the shows they were on. Of course Raw had Cena but I remember Orton being the best part and alot of fans starting to change their opinion on him (IWC hated Orton in 2005/2006)

[@yadielenielbellecolon982]

Thank For The Video 💞💗👍😍

[@tmac731]

I wish Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin won this title. It would’ve looked the best on them

[@jjbjjb273]

Today's wrestling belts look like cheap toys

[@sirchryslerofthephaeton]

lowkey i don’t blame them for not really “respect” the belt as 2 main world title belts is gonna get disrespected, i feel like the same thing happened after universal championship was revealed to the wwe championship

[@Giddywiddy]

Jeff Hardy vs John Morrison was one of my favorite WHC matches

[@jacobsendejo8788]

I was so happy with Mark Henry's Hall of Pain run as World Heavyweight Champion. He's always been underrated.

[@grantslater861]

And now…in 2023…after years of this title being retired…May 27th.. AND YOUR NEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, SETH “FREAKIN” RRRRRROOLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNSSSSS

[@wrestlingspremier]

we'll see

[@purpraid451]

I will always be loyal to this belt as #1.

[@deonjohnson2302]

Talk your shit WP

[@uainjansun]

Yay im early! May i ask a question wrestling premier but why do you usually upload very late? Cuz i usually cant keep up the notifications

[@wrestlingspremier]

It's a habit, I hear some say they don't get my notifications, maybe that's why

[@uainjansun]

​@@wrestlingspremierwell i dont have it on but this one appeared in my feed. I just noticed

[@mike_asgh3636]

Edge, Batista, Undertaker, Chris Jericho, King Booker, Sheamus were all great champions. The title had great title win moments which the best WHC win in my opinion was Rey Mysterio at WM22. Now that the Big Gold is back, it's time to bring the honor back to World Title feuds.

[@michaelmartinez5217]

If the belt was so " special" then the company using it was just as "special" and the company would have won the Monday night wars. But wcw lost because the title meant nothing to the people or to the world. Other wise they would have tuned in and paid up for the ppv's

[@devondavis5119]

Men im gon miss that belt but now we they made a new it clear that everyone want seth or aj style to win it to be honest i really want aj to win it but at the end of the day the one betl will always be better and miss

[@TwistedNightmar3Gaming]

Good old Kevin nash being booker and Hogan using his creative control

[@justlegendary7294]

To be fair to Dolph Ziggler & the WHC, people forget Randy Orton did the exact same thing with the WWE title at No Mercy 2007! 20 minutes & champ & dropped

[@robertocioffi2523]

Yeah, if it's part of a storyline i don't mind

[@ssheikh3598]

Belt looked pathetic on Benoit and Mysterio 😅😅

[@darnelljacobs2128]

or can u do a ciampa versus gargano rivalry video

[@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE]

The Downfall. is when WWE was making it a secondary championship back in 2010 onwards. from 2004 to 2007 that belt was the top of the mountain.

[@mringram]

Pretty good video

[@Spacemantubu14]

Why do i think that Edge won that belt more than 1000 times? 🤣

[@Browncurse]

There are some details you failed to mention. I wish you did. Undertaker as World Champion actually got to look stronger than WWE champ John Cena after a tag match Undertaker vs Kane feud featured the final time the World Title would main event a PPV... no I don't count the title unification with the WWE championship Daniel Bryan's reign as World Champion actually featured the final time the World Title would go above the WWE Title in a pay per view in the Elimination Chamber where the World Chamber went after the WWE Chamber but it still didn't main event as that went to Cena. Some subjective stuff: I can remember during the triple threat package of John Show and Edge John saying "I am on the outside looking in on the once prestigious World Heavyweight Championship". I think there were pockets of times where the World Champion was better than the WWE Champion but the WWE Champ had better competition thus the higher spot on the card. Biggest example was when Mark Henry was World Champ and Alberto Del Rio was WWE Champ. Also last I remember one segment where John could go after the WWE Champion which was The Rock or World Champ which I think was the recently turned face Alberto Del Rio who ended up facing Jack Swagger at Wrestlemania where John asked the crowd something along the lines if he should go after the World Championship which he "can easily win" or the WWE Championship which "He has little chance of winning". EDIT! Also to what you said at the end. To show how secondary the new World Title is during a recent match Michael Cole refereed to it as the "biggest prize in Monday Night Raw". Not the biggest prize in WWE. Also Randy Orton chose to go after the Bloodline instead of a guaranteed World Title Match... The Bloodline means more than that title. ANOTHER EDIT! Also One more infamous moment I wish you mentioned. When WWE Champ John Cena was in the ring and the common rabble outside the ring where John was trying to decide on a challenger (the one where Daniel Bryan was chosen) who was among the crowd of jabronis? Why on the World Heavyweight Champion Alberto Del Rio... he was only holding the "top prize" at the time...

[@seangross5057]

They need to bring it back

[@PilotRGR]

I mean there was some great moments and wrestlers who in WWF/E who held this belt but I felt it kinda died when David Arquette won it.

[@maui3551]

The best WWE big gold champion is the Undertaken and I don't care what Triple H has to say about it

[@Jerry-zc5qt]

When Vince McMahon decided to have the World heavyweight championship reactivated and just handed to Triple H. Then the title was made to look like a mid card title when Hunter wasn't involved in the picture. In my opinion it was all a big F U from Vince McMahon to wcw

[@afro_souledits2382]

Street's needed this this belt was amazing fr fr , i got a replica of it

[@maui3551]

For me the best WCW big gold champion is Sting

[@keoncarr129]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@freetshirt_250]

When did they add the red rubys , is the only thing i want to know🎉

[@JETSFAN2017]

It definitely had its ups and down but by the time it was unified it was definitely the right time.

[@williamcoslosky]

It looked great on HBK.

[@greencat9198]

Are you going to finish the evolution video?

[@Joshua-uw7wm]

It's my all time favorite belt

[@Browncurse]

The WHC was more of a continuation of the wcw and NWA titles that also used the big gold in its lineage. Kind of like a son when it's dad was WCW title and grandpa was the NWA title. Wwe recognizes it's lineage from the nwa title up until it became the wcw title then the wcw title then the WHC is it's own belt but shares their history.

[@markdejonge937]

except for the belt that was brought in during the wcw/ecw invasion isnt even the og belt it was one of the cast belts as scott steiner swapped it out and now sits in flairs son-in-laws house

[@Browncurse]

@markdejonge937 umm I was talking about lineage not the physical belt tho.

[@therealianco51]

I love this belt. Real title IMO

[@ZeRTO_13]

The championship went down when the weight standard was dropped.

[@StephenMungo-gq5ft]

Why did the belt shrink in size towards the end ????

[@Bloodgulchblue]

I hate the new belt, why does WWE just have to slap the massive logo on everything. Its too commercial killing any attempt at prestige. Should've just brought back the Big Gold Belt

[@markdejonge937]

it wouldnt look so bad if the logo and globe wherent so huge!

[@romeokoroma3341]

Please do the return of the undertakers American badass in judgment day 2000.

[@lostintheark5728]

To give the belt prestige, let Gunther or someone on his level run with it for awhile, then the prestige builds, the only reason the WWE belt has so much honors, because theres mfs that have held it for 4 or more years, per run. I think the longest is close to a decade, if Im not mistaking, but for the new WHC belt to matter, it has to create on lane, its late to make it equal, but it strap to someone who has a rocket on their back, repeated and give the best matches consistently, I dont see why it wouldnt gain merit, tbh Seth has had it too long, surprised they didnt make Seth, Drew, LA Knight and Sami for the belt. The WHC would probably do better on Smackdown anyway, which I think they will do since Cody's a Raw guy, even it would be nice to see him fight other ppl, still thinking he wins at WM just for Priest to strike and get his first. Surprised the tag teams arent up for a match WM? Judgment Day has had them for awhile now. Honestly they should split the belts up and give them a new design and add some prestige back to them because they pretty much been decoration, outside of a few instances.

[@killpeople6788]

That belt meant nothing when it came back in 2002 and handed to triple h. The undisputed championship just came out and it was supposed to be the main belt until the world heavyweight title surpassed it and they made the wwe title the spinner belt. I hate that big stupid belt

[@catdog12204]

Batista is thee world champion. I think once Batista got hurt in 2005, that’s when the would heavyweight tittle dropped under the wwe tittle

[@carneilliuswilliams6755]

Do vince mcmahon heel run on smackdown 2003 to 2004

[@cisomercader3127]

Can you do a the last year of Bobby Lashley back in 2007

[@claytonphillips85]

I miss the big gold belt 😔😔 it's a shame that it was retired for that crappy ass belt that we have now

[@simonmarshall19]

When hulk hogan finger poke lost his WCW ratings to Mick Foley winning the WWF Champion that night

[@brycegadson3370]

Wrestling premier can you do Moose rise on Impact Wrestling from 2016-2023?

[@armastradamus]

Is it me or does it look like they made the belt smaller around like 2011?

[@torresjackson94]

You're not wrong bro. Don't quote me on thr exact date, but 2011 is around the time that they replaced the J-MAR 3D version of the belt with a 2D version made by Dave Millican.

[@markdejonge937]

it was def smaller

[@rcdune7132]

The WWE Big Gold definitely traces its lineage with the WCW and NWA ones💯❤️‍🔥