The Downfall of the St. Louis Rams

ANOTHER DOWNFALL! Today I am joined by the GOAT Black Flags Matter (Darian Gilliam) / @blackflagsmatter
We talk about the history of football in St Louis and if they desrve another team. Its crazy how the NFL just goasted them espically after making 2 Super Bowls while in St Louis.
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[@BlackFlagsMatter]

St.Louis Rams: 1995-2015/thanks for having me on btw.

[@thefossillcave]

How about we have Maroots on another podcast 🤫

[@MarchOnRome]

Your username is HIGHLY offensive, and racist!

[@michaelhoward6076]

@@MarchOnRome how 😂

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

@@MarchOnRome L. Learn what the "Black Flag" means in racing then talk.

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

@@MarchOnRome When you make assumptions you make an ass out of yourself. The name is a funny play on words, it’s not political satire. I know what the intentions of the name are, nobody is mocking anything lmao. Also, BLACK LIVES MATTER ✊🏽

[@christopherjustice6411]

I sympathize with St. Louis for getting screwed over by the NFL twice. But let’s be honest, a small market like St. Louis never had a chance to take a team from a big market like Los Angeles and hold on to it. It was cruel to move the Rams in 95, it deprived LA of its franchise and it got St. Louis’s hopes up. What should’ve happened in 95 is the Rams staying in LA and St. Louis getting an expansion team.

[@mamaluigi2064]

older Rams fans hate that bitch Georgia Frontier what St. Louis thinks of Stan kroenke older Rams fans think Georgia Frontier the exact same way

[@klicka83]

St. Louis almost got an expansion team the stallions

[@kaneviktorovich99]

how is a city and county with 1.3 million (2.8 metro pop) small market?

[@christopherjustice6411]

@@kaneviktorovich99 Compared to LA? That’s tiny.

[@stephenbrand5661]

@Kane Victorovich Because that population size means there are 20 other markets in the US that are bigger.

[@tonatiuhnino3711]

That crappy logo they have now was enough of a downfall for the Rams.

[@JonathanGaeta]

The new logo looks like a parody Chargers logo, and I see it as a dumpster fire. The old logo was enough and better

[@bradleggey5508]

the birthday cake numbers on their backs are the worst

[@silverwheel]

and the new unis are straight out of the MAC.

[@jdmcknight41]

@@bradleggey5508 those numbers look like something , out of sesame , street , and the color scheme from the home jerseys look like fubu jerseys...

[@michaelschneider9141]

The uniforms are fire imo. I love them. The LA logo is shit, but the Ram head I like

[@slicer7713]

The city of St. Louis is loyal to their teams. It was the rams and nfl in general that gave up on the city.

[@97NikeSb]

Y’all stopped showing up the games. STL is a baseball town.

[@slicer7713]

100% not true. we still showed up. That is a hell of a lot more than I can say for the team's effort.

[@97NikeSb]

@@slicer7713 no y’all didn’t we all saw the games on tv and saw the attendance numbers. Y’all stopped showing up plain and simple. The team was gonna be cheeks under Fisher regardless and they weren’t gonna turn it around until he was gone

[@97NikeSb]

@@night6724 yes I know about the rams being terrible because I’m a fan as well and I literally said they would have been terrible under fisher until they got rid of him. The NFL has been wanting to come back to LA and he wasn’t gonna get the tax payers to pay for it. Not like STL was gonna fund another stadium on top of still paying for the Edward jones. STL fans shouldn’t be bitter about the rams coming back to LA because the truth is Georgia took the Rams to STL simply because it’s her hometown when the Rams had no connection to STL and snatched them away from there true home. And just like Kroneke, she didn’t bother to have real discussions on building a stadium here like Kronke didn’t bother to have talks in STL. I’m a rams fan regardless of their location but simple put the rams were a terribly run organization and the fans stopped showing up. Les Snead was gonna get canned soon before he turned it around. Also it’s like like they found immediate success here in LA they still had fisher the first year and signed him to an extension right before finally firing him

[@ZiggyZou]

Not really as a Chiefs fan, I had buddies in college that said you guys just stopped going, and didn’t really care. Which is sad cause I loved the dome.

[@DeadAir21]

They left out a lot of important details in why they left. Any one who lived in St Louis during that time knows that both Stan Kroenke and that NFL were plotting to move them back as soon as he became majority owner and the city never has a chance to keep them.

[@rspister]

They also left out how much money Stl gave GF and the top tier clause.

[@IsaiahWring]

Its alright. We have the XFL

[@zackherman22222222DE]

Cardinals are the oldest team in the NFL founded in 1898 in Chicago. Not 1960

[@isaiahmacias5276]

Founded but joined In 1960 as NFC

[@zackherman22222222DE]

@@isaiahmacias5276 He said founded though so in context, I am right

[@isaiahmacias5276]

@@zackherman22222222DE technically yes but really no there one of the younger few but there oldest before nfl was a thing

[@rspister]

@@isaiahmacias5276 did the NFC exist before 1960? They were in the NFL. That’s the point.

[@isaiahmacias5276]

@@rspister yes

[@ryanpoulos5139]

How is this dude not KZbin famous yet, high quality videos

[@MrManfly]

and I think they should move either the Jags or the Chargers to St. Louis! they can play in the old stadium for now but they MUST build a new one and the two outdoor renderings that I saw on here look pretty nice !!

[@1999bill1999]

Because he doesn’t know his history

[@1999bill1999]

@@MrManflySt. Louis doesn’t deserve anything. They can’t keep their promises

[@Shawn_Babcock]

The Cardinals actually came from Chicago and started playing there on 1898. The name came from their uniforms when the owner declared "They're not maroon! They're Cardinal red!". They moved to St Louis in 1960, then to Phoenix in 1988.

[@thederpyhuman4147]

fr, they did take advantage of having the same name though

[@jpmnky]

Their one of the oldest teams in the NFL. Crazy how little they’ve done in all those decades.

[@djtrankilo231]

0:55 wrong! They were already the Chicago Cardinals before moving to St. Louis. They only kept the Cardinals name to appeal to the baseball fans.

[@julianbell9161]

This is true. The Cardinals and the Bears are actually the 2 oldest teams in the NFL

[@markrobertson2196]

Absolutely correct

[@djtrankilo231]

@@julianbell9161 the Cardinals are actually the oldest team in the NFL. They were created before the 20th century

[@colby7609]

@@julianbell9161 This guy is clueless, and rarely states facts.

[@jbaskinger41]

A thing people forget is that St. Louis nearly got the New England Patriots back in 1993 and nearly renamed themselves the to the St.Louis Stallions. If it was not for Robert Kraft buying the team, St. Louis might have gotten a dynasty or just another downfall team.

[@american_burgers7365]

Yo didn’t expect u here

[@jbaskinger41]

@@american_burgers7365 Bruh I love his content!

[@stoneracing1778]

@@jbaskinger41 Yeah, Cole Adams is great

[@markmiller489]

No shit. Never knew thst

[@coreylevine3856]

Would they draft Brady and hire Belichick

[@Dixonhill36]

As an LA Rams fan (back from the 1980s), I'd say that it'd be great for St. Louis to get a team, but I'd hate to see a team relocate for it to happen. That being said, you're absolutely right that it doesn't make sense for Jacksonville to have an NFL team, and if they were to relocate St. Louis would make sense. I'd much prefer St. Louis to London. Best of luck St. Louis.

[@thelivingear990]

Oddly enough it was either Jacksonville or carolina that beat St. Louis during the expansion that year.

[@jordant_330]

You can say, “St. Louis gave up on the rams”. If out of 21 years your team makes the playoffs 5 times I wouldn’t be jazzed either about them. Still this is a sports town we’ll do anything for the Cardinals and Blues

[@rspister]

So Stl was a bandwagoning town when it came to the Rams?

[@edge032]

@@rspister yeah, I guess if you consider 11 consecutive seasons of sellouts at the Dome to be bAndWaGOn. That would be 95 total games. There was a sh*t ton of some of the worst football in NFL history in those years too. Wasn’t really until it became apparent that Enos Kroenke was intentionally trying to tank the team to help his case to move that fan support began to drop off.

[@rspister]

@@edge032 glad you agree they’re a city of bandwagoners. 👍

[@edge032]

hahahaha…HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!🥴🤡🤡🤡

[@rspister]

@@edge032 the irony. 😁

[@BennyBoy90]

I remember moving to St. Louis as a kid in 1997 and as a 7 year old picking the god awful rams as my NFL team and then in 98 we had the mark McGwire home run chase and in 99’ the greatest turn around in sports history.. for one brief shining moment ALL eyes were on St. Louis 😔 I’ll always have those 98-01 years that nothing will ever come close to as a St. Louis sports fan.

[@nickmiller2065]

Cardinals were named after the jerseys getting screwed up, not because of the baseball team.

[@0fficialdregs]

exactly

[@mclovin2155]

Except that the Arizona Cardinals were the Chicago Cardinals before they moved St. Louis. Kind of made your baseball joke sound dumb.

[@0fficialdregs]

thank you!

[@MightyDucks25]

The Cardinals moved to St. Louis from Chicago. In Chicago, they were called the Chicago Cardinals. They were NOT named after the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team. Please do your research!

[@kbobdonahue1966]

Thank you

[@Xolanidj]

I lived across the street from the Dome when the Battlehawks were there, and it was crazy. It most definitely showed that the people of STL would support a NFL team more than ever. I wanted to go to a Battlehawks game for my birthday, but everything was shutdown by then.

[@FWJosh43]

Kroenke turned the team to shit on purpose so fans wouldn't show up and he could use it as an excuse for leaving.

[@ritchietodd409]

Same as Clay Bennett did to Seattle with the Sonics.

[@chrisblane8877]

As Georgia did with the rams before they left. Once Dickerson left, what did we have? Don't forget she left the coliseum to go to Anaheim to further piss off the LA fans. The movie Major League was based off the stuff she was pulling to justify moving the team to Stl. She did everything in her power to disconnect the team from LA, not to mention they played in a baseball stadium and drafting Bettis was the last halfway decent thing they did prior to leaving.

[@chamberlainquench2484]

I actually attended the last game in St. Louis. It was a pretty good experience honestly. The fans really wanted the rams to stay. I saw signs everywhere from fans for them to stay. It was beautiful watching Todd Gurley run the ball. And there defense was fun to watch especially with Famous Jameis throwing them the ball to them. It’s sad that we never got to see them go back to the super bowl while they were in St. Louis.

[@ibn1989]

I was at that game too. It was pretty bittersweet.

[@elchris8788]

The Cardinals started in Chicago and the name was because of the uniforms

[@bakalicious314]

Could you do the Downfall of Virginia Tech?

[@anthonymontejano5338]

What about Florida state

[@owen.j.hightower]

that could be a cool colabe with JD Productions

[@AdvaithKumar]

@@owen.j.hightower oh yea great idea

[@RoysWorld1985]

@@anthonymontejano5338 He did that. It's on there.

[@nickb2912]

I don't think St. Louis was the problem at all. The Rams franchise belonged to LA and the main problems were the stadium and the ownership. If the NFL expands St. Louis should be a leading candidate.

[@nelsonbergman7706]

Just for facts. The Rams were originally from Cleveland. Moving to LA in 1946

[@Demi-kid]

Ahh the concrete stadium. I dont remember how many players got injured that stadium.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

first part... no, the cardinals moved from chicago to st. louis in 1960. they, along with the bears, are the only 2 original nfl teams still around

[@0fficialdregs]

facts

[@joshuasweeney7864]

The NFL should just Integrate the Battlehawks “Super Bowl Champion Battlehawks” would be metal AF

[@Babyboythaboss]

I agree st.louis battlehawks would be a perfect marriage as long as we're in nfc west i want to see la lamesheeps suffer by us every year and decade

[@hiphopotamus69]

F’s in the chat for Stevan Jackson’s wasted career

[@mamaluigi2064]

What people from St. Louis think of Stan kroenke now is what older for Rams fans like myself think of Georgia Frontier

[@coreylevine3856]

The NFL never want the Rams to leave LA they want the Raiders to leave

[@oscaru5342]

@Corey Levine, Mission Accomplished!

[@user-vr8ul3fd7d]

They were the Chicago cardinals before they moved to St Louis. That's why they were called the cardinals. Cards are the oldest team in the NFL

[@0fficialdregs]

no, they're one of the oldest sharing that stat with the bears

[@brycesanders7132]

The on the water stadium in St.Louis would have been sweet. No reason for STL not to have a football team one way or another.

[@Gage_Brumley]

Hopefully they reuse that riverfront stadium idea if STL were to get a football team again. The Dome works great for concerts/conventions but it's far too outdated for the NFL now.

[@bjnt92281]

St. Louis was supposed to get an expansion team in 95 but lost out to Carolina and Jacksonville. It would be ironic if the Jaguars ended up moving there considering that if the NFL had just awarded a team to St. Louis instead of Jacksonville maybe the Rams would have stayed in LA and gotten a new stadium along with a Super Bowl.

[@ethanbradley2089]

Can't watch it's been 5 years and it still hurts. Other than the Scott Linnehan era, the STL fans were extremely loyal. We had more losing seasons than most teams. And the fans still turn out. I'll always wonder if STL would still have a team had the Rams beat the Patriots. Now I'll be the first to tell you the Jones Dome was trash. But STL came up with a great idea for a stadium on the riverfront. Stan Kronke and the NFL screwed a great city.

[@protokazyii1743]

Hey man, big fan of the channel! Keep up the great work! I’m 20 and have lived in St Louis my whole life. This video really spoke to me on a personal level. I grew up a Rams superfan. Unfortunately I was too young to remember any of the golden years. All I remember is supporting the Rams through all of those rough seasons. The 1-15, 4-12, 5-11, 7-8-1 seasons. I would go into each Sunday hoping for a win but rarely ever getting one. There was something so beautiful about it though. I absolutely loved supporting the team even though they were utter garbage. It was the hope that ”this Sunday would be different” was what kept me coming back! There were many other people who felt the same as me and loyally stood by the team and would get roasted for doing so. I think that’s why many St. Louisans feel anger about the relocation. The issue was the way it went down. I vividly remember the day Kroenke bought the land in Cali. Kevin Demoff, chief operation officer of the Rams, came on the radio and said that Stan didn’t think the land was any good for building a stadium. He was telling us not to worry about a thing. Then look what happened. We fully understand that there is so much more money to be made in LA. If they were upfront about it then I think I would still be a diehard Rams fan. The reason we still have animosity for them is because they led us on thinking we actually had a shot at holding on to the team. Then they had the audacity to call us bad fans on the way out. So now you’re slandering us on the way out too? Y’all have been trash for 10 years, of course attendance is gonna be lower then usual. I just can’t support the team after they disrespected us so much. Don’t even get me started on the stadium proposal debacle. I could go on and on about all the shadiness that happened there from the Rams and the NFL. I digress, I won’t make you listen to that rant😂. I know what I said probably sounds petty to an outsider but I just want people to understand that the anger from St. Louis is legit and is based on lack of transparency from higher ups in the organization and the NFL. I’m sincerely happy for the LA fans that got their team back. I just ask that you understand our feelings on the matter and don’t make blanket statements that we were bad fans. If we ever get another team in STL I hope it’s in expansion team. Ik the pain of losing a team so I’d never wish that on anybody else. Lol this is super long, thanks for reading if you’ve made it this far. 🙏🏾😂 P.S. - RETIRE STEVEN JACKSON’S NUMBER IMMEDIATELY

[@jon4lakers]

Very well done.

[@colinmoore9154]

I have an idea for a video, do like a weekly video talking about the sports news that had gone on in the week. anyways great vid like always.

[@spartanworrior4519]

Oakland, San Diego and St Louis should all get teams back

[@flashedwheat6783]

Miss my saint Louis Rams 😭😭😭

[@viewernewest]

As dirty as the owners and the league did them, I doubt the NFL would ever be welcome back in those cities ever again. I say this as a salty citizen of St. Louis Missouri.

[@robertevbayekha6639]

@@flashedwheat6783 but rams was in cleveland but now have the browns BUT RAMS WAS HERE IN LA BEFORE ST.LOUIS

[@NewAgeNess]

I think more of the St. Louis Rams downfall comes from the lack of proper function as an organization. But as soon as they move to LA the Organization flips everything right around! Kroenke let that team be shit so he would have enough reason to move them imo PS: I need a longer video. As a St. Louis Native it is cringy to hear someone say "Just go root for the chiefs" you guys didn't even get into the bad blood sown by the Rams organization on they're way out and even after they left. Or the owner dying and Kroenke basically strong arming the NFL into selling it to him instead of Shad Kahn.

[@dragondrew2000]

I’m from St. Louis and it’s hard to root for the Chiefs. I’m more of a Lions fan now. To root for the Chiefs if you’re from eastern Missouri is akin to asking someone from San Diego to root for an LA team.

[@anondescriptobserver6774]

The teams in Missouri that stick tend to win the support of the rural areas and mid-sized towns (Springfield, Columbia, Cape, etc), it's hard for the cities themselves to float the teams unless it's a smaller league like the NHL or MLS. Rural MO generally leans Chiefs/Cardinals, which is one reason why the Rams left and the Royals are at risk.

[@robertevbayekha6639]

@@anondescriptobserver6774 nhl is not a smaller league wth?! And. Mls made 1.02 billion dollars wth

[@anondescriptobserver6774]

​@@robertevbayekha6639 It is a smaller league, the NHL makes a lot less money than the NFL or even MLB, and the arena capacities are smaller than NFL stadiums or MLB ballparks.

[@rspister]

So Stan The Man did exactly what Georgia the skank did when she moved the Rams to Stl?

[@farpointgamingdirect]

The Cardinals were not established in 1960. They moved to St Louis from Chicago. The team was founded as the Morgan Athletic Club in 1898, and is the oldest continuously run professional football team in the United States. And the Rams originally played in Cleveland.

[@0fficialdregs]

agreed

[@muzikdude1188]

Correct. The Cardinals had been an NFL team since the league's founding in 1920 but found themselves always being overshadowed by the Bears in Chicago. This more than anything is what prompted their move to St. Louis in 1960.

[@AlanNadeauIII]

Would love to see you collab with UrinatingTree

[@Demi-kid]

Young blood with and old head. Yeah that would be pretty sick.

[@AlanNadeauIII]

@@Demi-kid Not to mention U-Tree is fucking hilarious with his sarcasm and what not.

[@Demi-kid]

@@AlanNadeauIII dude it happened. On UT's channel thats pawg.

[@AlanNadeauIII]

@@Demi-kid What vid?

[@Demi-kid]

@@AlanNadeauIII the new one. He talks about the bengal video.

[@augustustalkington6932]

Hey Cole, I love your videos! I was wondering if you could do a video on Oklahoma sometime? Maybe on Lincoln Riley and the success of the air raid offense? It would give you a chance to talk about Kyler Murray 👀👀👀

[@toddaustin2198]

Great video! 1 big mistake near the beginning though. Since I'm an NFL historian who grew up in the STL Metro East area, I'm pretty up on both STL Cards baseball and STL Cards football history. The Racine / Chicago / St. Louis / Arizona Cardinals 🏈 team is the oldest NFL team in existence dating back to 1898 as the Morgan Athletic Club. They purchased some used and faded jerseys from a college. They donned these jerseys and become the Racine Cardinals (due to Cardinal Red Jerseys) of the City of Chicago in 1920/1921. The Racine Cardinals name has nothing to do with Racine, WI. Rather, the Big Red played in a field on Racine Street in the Windy City. They later would become known in the 1921/1922 campaign as simply the Chicago Cardinals. Their name has absolutely nothing to do with the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team. It was only a coincidence that when the Chicago Cardinals relocated to the Gateway City, both MLB and NFL shared the same team name. Although the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Canton, OH... The 2 oldest NFL franchises still in existence are from my home state of Illinois. ✅ The Racine > Chicago > St. Louis > Arizona Cardinals & ✅ The Decatur Staleys > Chicago Bears

[@bradmurray1736]

I live in Southern Illinois I used to live in the city but very much in the firm grasp of the St Louis sports market. I've been rooting for the Chiefs since 2016 but I feel this imposter syndrome. they aren't really my team. I don't think I want a NFL team in St Louis, But man do I miss the Rams. Even though I've never seen a good Rams team in all of my years.

[@LCE040490]

St Louis got screwed over by the nfl

[@rspister]

:(

[@larryloveless2967]

St. Louis city and St. Louis county are separate governments that each wanted to build a stadium in their location resulting in no new stadium forcing Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell to move to Arizona in 1988. St. Louis blew it by not working togather. Unlike San Diego and Oakland and all other teams that lost NFL teams for not building a new stadium, St. Louis actually approved the building of a new stadium on its riverfront. All St. Louis was excited in its news coverage and details of the new stadium. It was somewhat controverial how they went through courts to approve funding for the new stadium needing no voting approval by the residents of St. Louis. I am sure Stan Kroenke never expected St. Louis to actually approve a new stadium in time but he ignored it as he had already bought the land for SOFI years prior and wanted to instead build the greatest stadium ever known to mankind in L.A.. St. Louis had attempted to go through the NFL relocation by-laws thinking the NFL would give approval to block the move. The NFL relocation committe did recommend the Rams stay in St. Louis and an inital vote by owners had them staying as well. Jerry Jones then took over getting the owners to almost all swing their votes for his buddy Stan Kroenke. A trial is expected to start in January, 2022 seeking settlement for false and milsleading relocation by-laws of the NFL by St. Louis. The NFL should remove their relocation by-laws since they are false and misleading. Even though I am from St. Louis I do still believe an owner should be able to do as that person desires once a contract has expired. The NFL should be awarding money to St. Louis however for the wasted effort put in to approving a new stadium and working out all details for construction to begin.

[@LordM17]

great history in st louis? they had like a decent 5 yr run, with 3 yrs being good, the other 2 average. and thats it.

[@rileykazama3145]

I hope st Louis gets a expansion team

[@yourboikermit5074]

6:41 Rip that referee

[@robfreedman6496]

Cardinals were originally from Chicago and were there from 1920-1959 before being in St. Louis from 1960-1987!

[@dontedrake2316]

When the Rams first moved to St Louis play in Busch stadium to was awesome moving to the dome was awesome great channel keep up the great content

[@lloydgotgame4412]

Great vid 👍🏾

[@RhygonGG]

Man it is awesome to know that one of my fav youtubrs BFM, is. also a rams fan.

[@rdkrussel]

There's a big law suit that will either force every NFL owner to testify and make all kinds of NFL financial records public... Or the NFL could settle out of court with st. Louis. A lot of people seem to think the NFL doesn't want that black eye so a settlement is likely and could include an expansion team or relocating a team to stl

[@Mr_Chicken101]

Since you did the rise of Rutgers basketball, it would be cool if you do the rise of Penn State basketball.

[@redskinsman10]

the Cardinals were actually established in 1898 as a street team in Chicago.

[@mikehunt8997]

The team won in Chicago in 1947, 1925. and came from the windy city. EST 1898.

[@kalimanincreible7346]

From a longtime LA Rams fan (since the 70's) who just stumbled onto this video: St Louis, a lot of us LA fans really do empathize with you, because we also know the pain of losing our beloved NFL team: from our perspective, we can also say that the ownership screwed us over, back in the 90's. A credible argument can be made that Georgia Frontiere tanked the team in order to move it away, just like in the 1989 movie Major League. Don't get me started on how much we despised her. Remember, she was from the St Louis area, and St Louis rolled out the red carpet for her in 1995. It was painful to watch the Greatest Show on Turf era from here, although who could ever root against Kurt Warner? I confess that I didn't feel too bad for the franchise during the losing years that followed, and needless to say, I was absolutely thrilled when they came back in 2016. Sorry, I know many of you hate Stan Kroenke, but he's a hero to us here in LA. Going forward, let me just give my 2 cents: St Louis absolutely does deserve an NFL team, and I do think you deserve some financial compensation for your efforts to keep the team from moving. Every time my Dodgers go up against the Cardinals or my Kings do battle with the Blues, I'm reminded that St Louis is in fact a terrific sports town, and you have great fans. I hope good things happen for you in the future - good luck to you.

[@skidawg22]

Some notes for you: The football Cardinals were originally from Chicago and are one of only two charter NFL members still in existence (the other being the Chicago Bears). And as a former St. Louis fan that lives in Kansas City, I can never pull for the hometown Chiefs. Part of it is the Chiefs' fan culture and appropriation of Native American symbology. But a HUGE part of it that has forever turned me off relates to the LA fiasco: the league's own LA committee actually voted 5-1 to go forward with the Carson plan (Chargers and Raiders to LA). The one no vote on that committee was from Clark Hunt, the Chiefs' owner. This can only be seen as an anti-St. Louis vote. Otherwise, I think you did a good job. EDIT: Also, no mention of the lawsuit? Please feel free to look up St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority et al v. National Football League et al. The suit is scheduled to go to trial on October 25, 2021 in St. Louis. The NFL (and especially Kroenke) is likely liable for billions in damages. I would be surprised if St. Louis doesn't get an expansion team as a result of this lawsuit that all signed point to they'll likely win.

[@whosaidthat84]

How could they win? It'll probably drag out but STL didn't maintain their end of the deal by keeping EJD as a "top tier stadium." That language was purposely left vague in order to dip out. As an LA fan, I feel bad for the fans who watched them for all those shitty years. But Frontiere did exactly what Kroenke did by running them to the ground.

[@stlfatman]

I still miss my St. Louis Rams. I love the Battlehawks, but NFL football hasn't been the same since 2016.

[@noahcricket]

Thoughts on Gonzaga being ranked no.1 coming into the season?

[@michaelleroy9281]

Do you think the Chiefs have something to do with the Rams moving back to LA ? I have heard stories about that

[@godawgs1344]

Great video

[@brianmccartney8064]

Pretty good report. But there was some background info which was wrong: The Cardinals franchise moved to St. Louis from Chicago with the team name already. While in St. Louis, they branded themselves as the Big Red to differentiate themselves from the other Cardinals. In addition, Georgia Frontiere had a connection to St. Louis before. Either she was from St. Louis or her husband was. I don't remember which (and I can't be bothered to Google it :-)

[@PipeGuy64Bit]

I do miss their team colors when they were in St.Louis though the bright blue and yellow is fitting for them being in L.A. It's too bad they made that terrible logo and uniform change.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

they should’ve gone back to the old blue and light gold

[@ec1628]

Worst uniform and logo in all of sports.

[@jpmnky]

The fact they dumped Jerome Bettis for nothing for Lawrence Phillips, then got Marshall Faulk for nothing will always blow my mind.

[@muzikdude1188]

After the Rams moved to St. Louis Bettis gave minimal effort on the field and hinted that he wanted out. His dominance quickly returned after the Steelers acquired him. As far as Faulk goes, everything just fell together for the Rams in the 1999 offseason. They had just drafted Orlando Pace and already had one of the best WRs in the league in Isaac Bruce. The acquisition of Faulk and the surprising rise of Kurt Warner was enough to put them over the top.

[@christopherjustice6411]

Actually no. The Arizona Cardinals aren’t named after the St. Louis Cardinals Baseball team. The team was founded in Chicago in 1898 and their name is a reference to their first uniforms, which were Cardinal Red.

[@jakemiller6553]

I have been waiting for the for a while

[@jamesoverholt878]

A suggestion for an alternative to the situation you say had no alternative....mega rich nfl team owners can pay for their own gd stadiums

[@trillionairehebrew602]

Yes Edward Jonez Dome is our crown jewel in which should be outlined in our Lawsuit Settlement to be renovated!!!

[@tyfamousaurusrex1957]

The Cardinals began in1920 as the Chicago Cardinals then moved to St. Louis in 1960 because they couldn’t complete with the Bears and were seeking a market of there own.

[@cmfunk7665]

Vermeil was not done coaching. He was pushed out

[@OriginalOne1960]

The Chargers name and logo was created and originated in Los Angeles with a USC L.A.Memorial Coliseum historical connection with Tommy Walker aka”Tommy Trojan” and Barron Hilton founding original owner of the Los Angeles Chargers 1960. The Chargers name originated from the USC football games and Tommy Walker aka (Tommy Trojan) famous historical Charge chant he created “Da Dah Dah Da“ Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da Trojans Warriors Charge! Tommy Walker then musician /team kicker helped inspire then owner Barron Hilton “R.I.P.” to name the Chargers football team from the famous Charge chant he created as a USC musician band member /team kicker. When Barron Hilton attended the USC football games the previous years as a football fan at the L.A.Coliseum he would hear the Tommy Walker Charge chant. When Tommy Walker would run out to the football field to attempt the extra point kicks as the team kicker the USC team music band would play Tommy’s Charge chant he created as the team musician and the football fans that attended the games would yell out his Charge chant “Da Dah Dah Dah Da” Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da “Trojan Warriors Charge! to motivate him to score the extra point kicks. So that’s where Barron Hilton got inspired and got the idea to name the Los Angeles Chargers football team. The proof is in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo with the horse charging into battle. The Charger is a horse charging into battle. very similar to the USC Trojan Warrior with shield and sword and horse mascot charging on to the field to battle. Hence the horse in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo. The lightning bolt idea came from Barron Hilton liking the Air Force College football team lightning bolt logo as a College football fan. Till this day that famous Charge chant is heard at the game’s and through out many other sporting game events. The Los Angeles Chargers r the true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace and not too many team’s can claim that fact. Rams were born in Cleveland 1936 and Raiders were born in Oakland 1960 And that’s a fact these other teams can’t ever claim. And also the Chargers r the true Southern California NFL team because they have never left Southern California unlike the Cleveland/ST.Louis Rams and the Oakland/Las Vegas Nevada Raiders. Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers The true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace L.A. Born in L.A. in 1960 and played their first season ever in Chargers history at the L.A.memorial Coliseum finishing the season with a 10-4 record. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!!!!⚡️🐴 🏈

[@edge032]

Amazing how quickly the Rams organization learned how to draft and hit on free agents so quickly after moving to LA after decades of mostly ineptitude in STL. It’s almost like they were tanking the team intentionally or something 🤡

[@oscaru5342]

And..?

[@edge032]

And what? That’s it.

[@gsandy5235]

It sounds as if you are unaware that the Cardinals were the Chicago Cardinals before moving to St. Louis in 1960. In the 1920s the organization purchased used jerseys from the University of Chicago Maroons. The owner insisted that the maroon jerseys were cardinal red and, thus, the team was named.

[@waynekent6810]

Cities shouldn't have to foot the bill for stadiums . I think maybe some but the NFL or the owners should. They want it they build it. Can't blame a city when the team has nothing but loosing seasons.

[@TheDizzleHawke]

That dome in St. Louis sucked.

[@jasonbrown2326]

Arizona cardinals are from Chicago and were established around 1883

[@jordan80673]

I love the St. Louis Rams old colors

[@Gage_Brumley]

Just imagine if the Patriots moved here in the mid 90s like they almost did and became the St Louis Stallions...

[@michaelpointer5063]

Here after the ESPN article

[@A-LYCAN-CALLED-CAS]

They were the Chicago Cardinals, they're name had nothing to do with the baseball team, it was the color of their uniforms

[@markmiller489]

St.Louis Cardinals football team WAS NOT named after the baseball team. The Cardinals have a long tradition of football all the way back to 1898, one of the founding teams in the NFL. Cardinals started out in Chicago.

[@roccosteo8328]

The cardinals should have never left. And when they did they should’ve rebranded.

[@talksmoke1190]

The cardinals started in Chicago not in st louis

[@AlexThompsonShark]

Also, what isn't talked about, the 2001 SB... the AFC Championship game is the Tuck Rule game... Rams V Raiders... Rams then have 2 SBs...

[@fiesta061000]

The AFC Championship in 2001 was Patriots at Steelers..The tuck Rule game was the Divisional Rd..Anyway, 2001 Rams were better than 1999 Rams, but 1999 Rams sealed the deal ⁉🏈🏙🏟🟦

[@nathansimpson5721]

I’m from St. Louis and fans would support a team. It’s a matter of who’s willing to relocate here and can we fund a stadium

[@nathansimpson5721]

@dr rock that’s what I’m saying. We would be divisional rivals with Kansas City too.

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

It’s all Kronke’s fault

[@rspister]

Rams never should’ve moved to Stl and GF had no business “owning” the Rams.

[@bluelightingwolf85]

There might be a possibility of the jaguars leaving Jacksonville I would say St Louis would be an excellent candidate for an NFL team relocating or an expansion franchise and a couple of years the Cincinnati Bengals lease is up that's something that we should keep interest in

[@Hankaholic]

Jeff Fischer was NOT brought in to try to turn it around. He was meant to make Saint Louis hate the Rams.

[@tyrelljackson872]

Name of the background beat?

[@thelivingear990]

I’m clamoring for an end credit scene like moment where the mayor and some billionaire business man/woman sit down and the mayor orders the clerk to pull the stadium plans off the shelf.

[@explosivereactionstv7414]

Can’t wait till he mentions Arsenal 😔😔😔

[@guilty4308]

this feels so weird that you talk about my uncle in the "mark bulger

[@AVSCOUNTRY2024]

I want your opinion I’ve been a huge Chiefs and Avs Fan since I even knew about football and Hockey so does this put me as a happy person because both teams are going to kick ass this year well the Chiefs already are sitting at 8-1 way better than last year

[@ZiggyZou]

Heck yeah, I’m from KC. Huge Chiefs and Avs fan too. I can’t stand St. Louis, and their teams tbh

[@AVSCOUNTRY2024]

@@ZiggyZou thank you I knew I wasn’t the only one and the Avs have way more in-common with the Chiefs than they do with the Broncos I mean think about it the two teams both have a game changer with Mackinnion and the Avs and Mahomes with the Chiefs and also bye god I have been waiting to see the Avalanche win the cup and they look way better than the blues

[@CxDubxU]

The greatest show on turf is the first modern day offense and the best of all time

[@jackofallgamesTV]

Remember the time they almost became the St Louis Rush? Local boy NFL from mid-size City out of TV range of St Louis but considered a St Louis market, Cape Gerado Missouri, becomes a self-made millionaire with his humor and opinions and probably lives the golden life of any NFL fans dream who doesn't have enough talent to get past high School football. He was considered the every fan at one point. The problem was when he made a comment on ESPN that touched on race, and none of the three on their staff members disagreed, and no one on set at the time complaining that that was an off the mark but, some people interpreted it as racist, and though he made enough money where he could have bought the team and was trying to, and the owners club wanted him in but the players union vetoed it because of that one comment. Unless your definition of racism is mentioning race in any aspect, at all, no matter how delicately you make the racial portion of the comment, no matter how tangential, if your racial comment is pointed in the wrong direction from the wrong person to the wrong person all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race you're all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race your all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race you're all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever all the words in the middle get erased and the racial word gets amplified with all others being ignored. It's not like he used the forbidden six-letter word to call blacks, except one time when he was directly quoting someone about equating tax cuts to shouting racial epithets. He did warn people he was quoting someone and he would never say it on his own. And gave time to turn off the TV until the next commercial. Probably the same people who thought the ESPN comment was racist, would also say that equating advocating for tax cuts to shouting racial slurs is also racist. There has to be alternate plans of capitalism which grows the economy versus yesterday, and socialism, which prevents one company or one person for being too powerful in an economy where money equals power, we're even Adam Smith, the original radical capitalist, said the government has the right to break monopolies. Ideally the government should be bigger than any one company but not bigger than the sum of all businesses. And you have to constantly switch back between capitalistic and socialistic policies either broad sweeping, or targeted.

[@bradleykaps1557]

The Cardinals were from Chicago and got its name from the jerseys they were that was Cardinal red and moved to STL from being known as the other Chicago team

[@samklug]

Can you do downfall of Chicago Cubs?

[@ChandlerTingle]

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 I LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE AND................... everything you said was true

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

Obviously I’m a fan of a division rival but it’s still sad a market like St. Louis lost their football team to a market that really shouldn’t have an nfl team let alone 2 and this almost happened to my Seahawks in the 90s they technically did move to LA temporarily until Paul Allen bought the team and kept them in Seattle and even though I’m a blazers fan could you do a video like this on the Seattle Supersonics

[@mariaandmichael2680]

It started with changing the colors and uniforms!