The DOWNSIDES of Playing With LeBron James

[@nonstop]

We love LeBron, but this topic had to be discussed. A lot of it isn't his fault, but certainly, some of it is 😂

[@Cooper-wg7oi]

Bron can't play with ball dominant stars😂

[@Extra-EdIts-d8z]

First

[@engidohaile201]

@@Cooper-wg7oiLebrons a ball hog

[@Jesussaves852]

Jesus loves you may God bless you all

[@robertscherer9396]

Can you do the story of Giannis Antetokounmpo?

[@woozzification]

Pacers fans literally chanted "Lebron's gonna trade you" at Brandon Ingram when he was on the free throw line 🤣

[@Stimulation334]

Lol

[@MangoTroubles-007]

And Lavar Ball acting like he wanted Lonzo on the Pelicans all along after they got the #1 overall pick to draft Zion 😂

[@braydenharris9691]

I mean where they wrong😂

[@kcidd12]

boy was SWEATING on that free throw line…

[@zinjgreen3398]

And they did

[@Lisa-rq1oe]

Pat Riley wasn't having it.I respect that.

[@DavidVandemark]

And that’s why their organization wasn’t sent to the shadow realm for the next decade after he left

[@Astrotase]

Lebron is a a spoiled player

[@vikramkrishnan6414]

Riley had 6 rings before LeBron showed up. He couldn't bully him.

[@leplay7961]

And still hasnt won since the legod left

[@BLACKNINJAXX]

Lebron needed the heat to win​@@leplay7961

[@DINGDONG12344]

That Westbrook trade was the worst

[@Batx0123LOLXD]

Fr its actually crazy that everyone knew it was gonna be bad before it happend and it still happend

[@OreAgiri]

So horrible

[@malcolmpuhawan3695]

He wanted Russ, who isn't a great defender or 3 point shooter, needs the ball in his hands and will score mostly near/in the paint...which is exactly how LeGM plays. How's that going to work? What he probably needed was a scrappy 3nD player who moves well without the ball or a bigman who has extended range but plays great defense...because those are the things he doesn't do 😅

[@lastrebound]

@@malcolmpuhawan3695 He wanted Derozan but also pitched Westbrook. They weren't willing to offer Derozan a 3 year deal so they chose Westbrook instead.

[@kennylynch8575]

LBJ wanted him

[@stingrey1571]

Lebron never had a hard get in your ass coach. He had a series of puppet coaches. When he tried to insert his own guy in Miami. Pat Riley put him in his place.

[@Betroid]

Neither did mj

[@4ransom437]

That was false bron never tried to get rid of spo

[@Mason_23]

That’s was false he never tried to trade Eric. It was him, d wade and bosh that wanted pat to take over the coaching and pat days no

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

You think lebron wouldn't do all that if it didn't WORK?

[@stingrey1571]

@@Betroid Jordan had Phil Jackson. Phil would tell Jordan what to do. He drew up plays and Jordan carried them out. Lebron pretty much does what he wants and when he wants. The coach is just some guy with a clipboard to him

[@ALmizzle415]

So Lebron demanded a trade for Westbrook, then was upset that because of that trade no move could be made at the trade deadline. Wow that’s rich.

[@8red227]

He want demar but the owner want westbrick

[@boydriceisawesome2520]

He's the worst teammate

[@Urus-dk6cr]

@@8red227 thats false info, lakers wanted Buddy Hield but Lebron wanted Westbrook

[@mtmind3875]

He never demanded Westbrook?? Just lying

[@JuanMorales-hy2lt]

​@@mtmind3875 he wanted Westbrook lakers wanted hield

[@Mikebuddy2229]

The problems with Lebron are that he is uncoachable, he plays one way (star players have to change their play in order to compliment Lebron), silently backstabs teammates, and he doesn't respond well to criticism. I recently had a debate with a fan boy about these reasons. The only way for that Miami Heat team to work is for Chris Bosh and D-wade to change their playing style and be more like role players in order to compliment Lebron. He silently stabs teammates in the back. This video didn't touch on this, but Lebron silently went to Coach K to try to get Kobe off the USA Team because he didn't like how Kobe was leading the team. He didn't team D-wade that he was leaving Miami to go back to Cleveland. D-wade found out the same way everyone else did. He threw Russell Westbrook under the bus (I think he knew Russ wasn't a good fit on the Lakers team, but he needed to blame someone, and so Russell Westbrook was the Scapegoat), players get traded due to Lebron backstabbing them. Finally, if he doesn't like a coach, he will get them fired. He doesn't take criticism, and it's gotten so bad that the media purposefully will blame everyone else but Lebron. His attitude to the game is very different compared to MJ and Kobe Bryant. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's different. Kobe said it best. "Lebron isn't like me or Mike. He's built differently. He wants to be loved, me and Mike don't care about that other than winning."

[@Mr_Tez20]

Couldn’t have said it better!

[@stephenishola6205]

This was SO refreshing to read yet watch you still get attacked by his emotional ass fan boys who can’t handle hearing the truth about their “King” 🤫🫢

[@impacc4182]

Man you kobe/jordam 🍆🚲are a cult 😂the lengths you fan girls go to discredit bron is astounding

[@myyusauce]

Hey just curious, can you give a source for the "LeBron silently went to Coach K to get Kobe off Team USA" and the last Kobe quote?

[@H8M0ndays]

@@myyusauce Hes just lebron hater, you can see by his text. And obviously have a hard on for bean. better ignored

[@samdakid6559]

Kuzma having to literally push you to play defense is nasty work lol

[@criticalthought4910]

Kuzma didnt push him to play defense, Kuzma blew his assignment and didnt know the 3pt% of the player who was left open Is your skin pink or are you just pretending?

[@johnmatthew8710]

@@criticalthought4910 Casual bigotry because someone else had an opinion you didn't like. You probably blame just about anything you don't like on what you just assumed of him, because it's comforting, convenient, and why not, right?

[@EA-dweller]

@@criticalthought4910 you could’ve chosen to shut up but verbal diarrhea and attention are the worst viruses humanity has been facing lately. That includes Lebron lying about unnecessary things.

[@Gandalf-DZ]

@@criticalthought4910 It blows my mind knowing the extents Stans are willing to go to save their idol's ass

[@starting_up6808]

@@Gandalf-DZ I laughed out loud reading that cuz its so true

[@ron357]

As a coach i would hate to hear we just signed Lebron😭 but Riley not letting LeBron takeover was the best decision he made

[@drewmeyer9679]

I’m an LBJ fan & I agree. He makes teams change their whole roster and coaches for him & when they lose it’s LJ didn’t have help & leaves, but when they win it’s all LBJ.

[@blakebrown84]

LeBron James is a coach killer just like any other NBA player who didn’t like their coach. Pat Riley refuse to fire Erik because he is the best man for the job. It’s too much pressure to play for him and he gets frustrated when things don’t go his way. Some of the players refused to play for him because they couldn’t stand him. During his first stint in Cleveland, some of his teammates like Ricky Davis and Darius Miles didn’t embrace him because of all of the media attention he gets. Some of the head coaches refused to deal with him.

[@jasonvrba4644]

Definitely a good move on pat rileys part, Miami has had a lot of success without Lebron. Oh wait

[@sammysam2615]

Cavs owner in Lebron's first stint with Cleveland and Pat are the only two people to tell Lebron "No"

[@elliteMonkeygaming]

He should’ve known the moment he went to south beach they wasn’t going for it

[@joechucks1555]

@@elliteMonkeygamingand Pat aint won ish since. Cleveland wasted Lebron’s first 7 years

[@BooperDooper-qb2nd]

​@@joechucks1555 Pat's team went to the finals as the underdog something lebron hasn't done in the west besides the bubble

[@magicmillz]

@@BooperDooper-qb2ndSo you’re praising people for going to the finals and losing 😂😂?

[@BooperDooper-qb2nd]

@@magicmillz i'm just saying what lebron fans said everytime he went to the finals 10 times but here's the thing pat's heat made to the finals as the underdog

[@haku4841]

This is why curry deserves all the respect he gets especially after his last chip, stuck with them through the ups and downs

[@impacc4182]

You curry fan gays are unbearable

[@mikehawk401]

Stop it.

[@wayzlikelays]

what downs bro 😭🙏

[@Alex-tc9np]

Yeah if only Lebron was drafted to a competent franchise like GS was at the time.. Curry is a huge part of the success but Bob Myers, Klay, Dray and KD help a lot lol

[@briananderson9650]

💯.. he didn’t di&@. Ride to the finals. Queen James hasn’t and canNOT. Win alone. He needs keep mikes name out his mouth😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@livedeliciously]

James has been toxic to every team he's been on. If they lose, his teammates get blamed. If they win, Lebron gets all the credit. He also can't play within a system that isn't catered toward his bagless talents.

[@jamespressman1202]

Lebron always perform either win or lose the question is does his teammates perform? Even their job is just to make the open shot but still they are missing it. So who should we blame? Is it bron for making the right play or his teammates cant perform to a simple job?

[@parkinsaw]

Um no, first go around with Cleveland was basically just him and the only help they could afford to get him was a past his prime Shaq. (Not even resurgence Phoenix quality Shaq), Miami Wades body simply couldn't hold up same with Bosh (blood clots) If Lebron got help he would probably stay, if both his friends bodies held up guess what he's probably staying Back to Cleveland Kyrie ups and leaves to make Boston "better", Kevin Love wasn't Timberwolves calibre Kevin Love (though his rebounding helped them a bunch) LA was basically Lebron/AD and a bunch of players no other teams wanted (they really never should have been broken up as they all actually jelled well) *Also ho is it any different than Jordan fans, listening to them you would think he had never played with anybody and singlehandedly won all his titles lol. (You know the "flu" game/"shrug" game blah, blah)

[@MikeBNumba6]

​​@@parkinsawthe cavs won 66 games before Shaq came there. The cavs gave LeBron plenty of help. Cavs had a top 5 defense and top 3 three pt shooting team. Varejou was all nba defense. Z and Williams was an all star. Plus Jamison who was a 20ppg guy. You don't win 66 games and say you don't have enough help. LeBron's last year in CLE, cavs were favorites to win and would have won had LeBron performed at his regular season avg. Stop the excuses. He had help in Mia and lost. He had help in LA and lost. In LA LeBron forced management to trade their young core away for AD.

[@parkinsaw]

@@MikeBNumba6 Lol what are you smoking Varejou....really. Yeah the record shows how good Lebron was as he pretty much pulled an Iverson and dragged em to a solid record year after year. Who exactly was projecting him to win that year lol. Lakers still existed that year as did the Celtics. Look at the Hawks and how many years they have had an amazing record only to fall apart once the playoffs start. Regular season means nadda. Not denying he didn't have help in Miami......all I stated was his friends bodies simply couldn't hold up, and as for the Lakers I stated that squad should have never been broken up, you know the squad that won a title. You can't really say "Lebron forced management to trade their young core for AD" and don't bother to follow that up by stating he won the title lol. Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, (Kawhi) - Lebron lost to this understandable (3 times in the finals he faced them) Curry, Thompson, Green, Iguodala, (KD) - Lebron lost to them understandable (4 times he faced them) Dirk - this one is a tricky one as Dirk swept the than defending champion Lakers and they seemed unstoppable this year shooting wise. But Miami were still favourites so I guess not quite understandable. Losing to a comparable or even a better team is pretty understandable........Heck Lebron's best effort he has ever produced was you guessed it in a losing effort. *2018* or heck 2017 as well either one. *People want to talk about Lebrons record in the finals all the time yet fail to inform the readers HE FACED THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER for most of them lol.

[@Ak4set]

​@@MikeBNumba6Can't call em help when they aren't helping.

[@1Aapoogfrfj]

Jr Smith does NOT thrive under pressure💀💀

[@wayzlikelays]

he is pretty clutch tho

[@jennyanydots2389]

He was still useful. Good player. I'm of course much better but, he's still okay.

[@LetMeEatDem]

Bro saved us in game 7 at oracle. Came out of half and hit 2 3s and a lay up to bring us back into the game. Also the best bail out teammate bron ever had. Bro would hit some insane 3s with the shot clock expiring on broken possessions.

[@wayzlikelays]

@@jennyanydots2389 yeah sure buddy

[@Mattyice34-je2ez]

Fax

[@sneake_r]

Show this video to Bronny

[@Redstorm1220]

Lebron complains that his son is getting so much pressure put on him meanwhile it’s Lebron who built up and put that pressure on him. You got other players and retired players who have kids trying to get to the league and their fathers don’t do that to them

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

Corny

[@sneake_r]

@@Redstorm1220 chill i was just playin

[@RealMrSmile]

I hope you don't say that Bron will throw his teammates under the bus

[@sneake_r]

@@RealMrSmile it was a joke lol

[@pamoon_]

Nelly said it best in 2013, but this referred to Kobe and Dwight: "Your career stats is going DOWN, and if you DON'T win, before they blame him, they're gonna look at YOU."

[@jennyanydots2389]

Turns out that Kobe's stats weren't the only thing goin' down in his life.

[@jiggafromstatefarm9997]

@@jennyanydots2389 your mother can say the same too 😂

[@jennyanydots2389]

@@jiggafromstatefarm9997 That's very disrespectful. Apologize

[@Darksky1001able]

"Who wants that?"

[@punchdreadnought8101]

​@@jennyanydots2389 no... come and find us. Oh wait Lebron fans are too busy to touch grass or leave dystopian Los Angeles and Philippines.

[@Gazz.z]

even the league helping this guy to win

[@goooys4173]

but how about 2000's lakers with KObe and shaq ?

[@Gazz.z]

@@goooys4173 ?

[@mjolnir3580]

Wearing knicks towel while wearing lakers jersey and posting hints of joining the NYK would have made Kobe furious

[@lucasrego3874]

the media narratives get yall so easily 😂all the lakers players had knicks towels... bcuz guess what: they were at the knicks arena so the knicks staff supplied them with their own towels

[@OsirusIrdia]

kobe aint here anymore he can't do squat

[@mtmind3875]

He never posted hints lmao he just likes playing in NY he’s always said that

[@jakerojas4756]

Who the hell wants to be miserable like Kobe

[@Princeton1200]

@@jakerojas4756Kobe was never miserable weirdo.

[@cablemantrials6039]

This playing gm thing is the main reason why I don’t like him. He will force you to make a move. You make it and it don’t work out, he leaves and now you have no picks no assets to move forward with. He’s well past his prime and him scoring 25 don’t even impact the game anymore. He can’t be the main piece on a championship team anymore but he thinks he can. Idk what else he needs but this ain’t gonna work against teams that are well run.

[@Mason_23]

That’s almost every superstar. This league is run by superstars they are the one people wants to see they are the ones making money for the franchise.. if you are GM you listen and fellow your superstars if not they leave is simple

[@MikeBNumba6]

​@@Mason_23i think it's worth with LeBron because of his his contracts is set up. I know in cleveland that's the one thing his fans and the media always overlooked. After his rookie contract he resigned for two years with a op out. Basically saying he has no intention to commit long term. That puts pressure on management to build a team quick. Which is fine, but the problem is what free agent wants to sign to CLE when they know LeBron will leave after one or two seasons? Kevin love found that out the hard way. Kyrie saw it coming which is why he asked for a trade

[@Mason_23]

@@MikeBNumba6 and that why I respect him he’s trying to win not collecting money with nothing to show for it.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@Mason_23 12 comments just to glaze LeBron is sad

[@Mason_23]

@@Chuck_EL not glazing we just use common sense

[@uberneanderthal]

there's nothing but downsides to playing with lebron -if you win a chip (rare), media will give him all the credit (ask Wade, Kyrie and AD) -he doesn't make players around him better (ask Love, Bosh, and Westbrook) -if you don't simp he'll trade you -his cringy prima donna antics are a constant distraction he's the anti-Jokic

[@mod7065]

-Media talks about what gets clicks. LeBron is the only player whose legacy threatens MJs GOAT status, so he’s gonna be the focal point since he’s better than them. -Love and Bosh did have to restructure their game, and as a result they’re champions. Good role players become great if they hit their open shots and play defense. Nothing can be said for Westbrook he ain’t a number 1, 2, or 3 he’s just a hustle player now. You’d need god to make him effective. -Can’t dispute that. He was always the best player on his team. His style of play worked. He is a bus driver, so the situation is simple. Got on or get out the way. -If social media existed back then Kobe’s allegations would’ve ruined him and people would’ve been on Mike like they were on Harden for going to clubs and gambling. You can spin anything. It’s all dependent on perspective.

[@thediseaseisthecure]

@@mod7065 He minimized Bosh and Love's skill sets

[@thediseaseisthecure]

@rpm9196 Good luck with that, his jumpshot is garbage 😆

[@michaelperez3720]

These two are just dumb. Hes a horrible teammate. EVERYONE is FORCED to change their playstyle to suit lebron, even though his play style is crap and doesn't lead to chips without at least 2 other already established all star/ hall of fame players. Especially one that can shoot so they can bail his ass out AGAIN. And Wade was considered top 3 shooting guard BEFORE joining up with lebron. Joining up with lebron hurt his legacy as well as lebrons, Ray Allen, and Chris bosh.

[@fluff975]

@@michaelperez3720 if his play style was crap, nobody would change theirs to suit his and if it didn't lead to championships he wouldn't have won 4 w 3 different teams. i agree he's an egomaniacal control freak, but almost no great player has ever won a championship without other HOFers alongside them. joining up with lebron in no way hurt wade, allen, or bosh's legacy. u think any of them would've won more titles without him? if anything it only hurt lebron's legacy bc of his meltdown in 2011

[@samuraijack10]

Players and first round picks traded by each player... LeBron: 118 (21 seasons) Kobe: 56 (20 seasons) Curry: 52 (15 seasons) Jordan: 35 (15 seasons)

[@GiovanniBallerinii]

i dont want you to fell stupid but compared to them he changed teams 4 times. why dont you try to divide it 4 times

[@JGLMAO]

@@GiovanniBalleriniino it’s trades done while that player was on the team that a trade occurred

[@borutaicho]

​@@GiovanniBalleriniiHim changing teams like condoms doesnt make his case better

[@hoebertrabeck1621]

@@GiovanniBallerinii so you are saying its even worse?

[@ivblizzard3616]

this is literally because the other players has already good teams and supp casts

[@mlosekamp26]

Jordan pushed his teammates to do better. Lebron trades them

[@jasonugwu8326]

Jordan punched you mean

[@emarcristobal1460]

Jordan punch his teammates because of egos.. 😔

[@TFNARMY_2009]

@@jasonugwu8326 pushed, I’ll wait until you show me a video link of Jordan punching his teammates lmao..

[@TFNARMY_2009]

@@emarcristobal1460 mad lmao?

[@MikeBNumba6]

​@@jasonugwu8326teammates fight. Nothing wrong with that

[@lamchunting856]

The only GOAT metric Lebron can debate with MJ is being the GOAT of bad GMs. Lebron is only adding more accolades to his GOAT bad GM resume.

[@SketchingHands]

I blame LBJ fans for a the amount of hate James gets. Ya’ll were saying he was better than Jordan b4 any rings. Saying he was an amazing passer. Said it so much it was a joke with a small boy and a man in a movie. Ya’ll never let him be LBJ before trying to make him the goat.

[@Mason_23]

Is all opinion not just lebron fans I can name you players, old head and coaches who have lebron over MJ. This goat thing is all subjective you can’t hate someone for others people opinions that’s weak to me. Most of the lebron hate is not even basketball.

[@joshuaSSC]

FINALLY SOMEONE SPIT FAX

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

Who was saying he was better than Jordan before he got any rings? 💀 Stfu bro

[@joshuaSSC]

@@Mason_23 You don't understand how much meatriding Lebron Fans do.....

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

​@@IkhoOnyejelem probably people like you, cavs and heat fans

[@USMILER]

I think the difference is that maybe Lebron won't beat you, he will just manipulate the front office to dump you, he wont make his teammates better he'll just get another ones and if they fail reset again

[@mod7065]

Bron gives them the open looks and chances. If you keep failing I’d wanna get rid of you too.

[@damboulton]

@mod7065 always someone else’s fault with LeBron.

[@ChillDude123]

I mean it’s true. Everyone had an opportunity.

[@alexescutia4805]

@@damboultonif you can’t hit with some of the most open shots of your life then you should be held accountable

[@8red227]

@@damboulton most of them are wide open shots weren’t you suppose to make them?

[@chhansen9813]

Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, not 8, not 9, not 10........................................

[@fatherhim5]

0:41 J.R Smith I thrive under pressure, 2018 finals game 1 😂

[@martialartist3953]

that’s nothing performance based he just made a mental mistake reading the score wrong. if you want a good example of not thriving under pressure lebron 2011 is a great place to start

[@stezypeasy]

JR smith has been quite clutch and will sometimes turn up on defense late in games this is a really casual take

[@PennyFitzgeraldFan]

This is why I never want Lebron on my team he literally makes players more angry by taking the spotlight away from them.

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

That's why you'd be a terrible gm

[@PennyFitzgeraldFan]

@@IkhoOnyejelem Nah I be a great GM Lebron one of most selfish arrogant players in the NBA all he does is make a team he plays with turn on each other, gets coaches fired, gets players sent out of town, like he doesn't own the team like he thinks he does and turns players into jerks like Kyrie Irving for example but I expect nothing from a Lebron James fan honestly.

[@Wes-pq4pl]

@@PennyFitzgeraldFanthat’s laughable

[@PennyFitzgeraldFan]

@@Wes-pq4pl Like I care I don't like Lebron OK fair and square my opinion so deal with it.

[@MWTA312]

Spotlight you think players worry about a spotlight 😂

[@alfred68564]

having a television slot just to tell people what your decision is all I need to know about LeBron

[@Mason_23]

I don’t think that lebron decision. He could’ve said yes or no but he’s was one the biggest prospects so everyone wanted to know where he was going.

[@juniourdiaz6385]

​@@Mason_23and also raised 4 million for charity but most ppl skip that part

[@Sage_Hashish]

@@juniourdiaz6385 Most people skip that part because Lebron made 15.8 million in the 2009/2010 season alone, disregarding other sources of income he has. So the charity feels kinda tacked on to justify "The Decision"'s existence.

[@trumptouchesivanka]

@@juniourdiaz6385oh please, $4 mill is chump change for lebron he makes more money tgan that while he sleeps, he has that kind of money in between his couch cushions, he could’ve easily donated that money himself, but since he’s so narcissistic he needed a 1-hour special to announce where he was signing and he could’ve also done it in less than a minute

[@seanbell69]

He had the public wrapped around his finger and he knew it. Was there a better option? Yeah, but he was 24 and trying to figure out what the limits to his newfound power within the media were.

[@roedelrivera5353]

This "GOAT" status is built entirely in the media and not on the court. Disgusting

[@jennyanydots2389]

This is no time for bidenomics. Justice Marge Tay Greene is fighting for our rights at the border of Texas and Spain!!

[@mod7065]

Accolades and records say otherwise. Just because you don’t like the fact he threatens Jordan’s GOAT status, doesn’t mean he hasn’t earned a spot in the conversation. If he isn’t number 1 then he is definitely number 2. Where you have him is just opinion at this point.

[@megavolt67]

​@@mod7065 "Accolades and records say otherwise." No, not really. Not compared to MJ. LeBron is top 10 for sure based on his accolades even considering that he handpicked his own teams for more than half of his career but it's his longevity that either does or doesn't make the difference for somebody in the GOAT argument (and to me it doesn't, because then Karl Malone is a top 10 all time player). MJ has 10 scoring titles to LeBron's 1. 5 MVPs to LeBron's 4. MJ has 6 titles with Finals MVPs to LeBron's 4 titles with 4 FMVPs. MJ has a DPOY and was a three time steals leader. LeBron was assist leader once. MJ has more all defensive teams. And so forth. MJ still has enough of a solid and obvious edge to where it shouldn't be debatable. And LeBron having a losing record in the finals is undersold by his fans for how bad it looks in terms of GOAT. No GOAT in any other sport, including team sports, has a losing record on the biggest stage but LeBron's fans want to sweep what used to be such an important standard aside in order to put their guy on top. It's easier for them to denigrate past eras, blame his teammates, blame his coaches, say the competition was unfair, anything but to put the blame on the supposed leader of those teams for coming up short in key moments. They're even so pathetic that they take to drawing comparisons to young Jordan on his early bad Bulls teams losing lopsidely to the dynasty Celtics in the first round as if that's equivalent to LeBron losing badly in the championship round with top 5, top 10, top 15 players on his rosters.

[@mod7065]

@@megavolt67 I get the negative finals record, but look at those losses. 2007 is like early Jordan bulls except Bron dragged them there. 2011 he played bad no doubt, but what was he meant to do in the other ones. 2014 he played great Bosh had injuries and Wade slowed down. 2015 he played so well he was in discussion for finals MVP on the LOSING team and his star teammates were injured. 2017-2018 KD super Warriors there wasn’t a team in the history of the league that beats them. I get it he lost no excuses but c’mon. He played well and made them close. He should’ve gotten more MVPs he was always far and away the best player in the league, but voter fatigue. Should’ve been the 1st unanimous MVP, but someone picked Melo of all players. He should’ve won DPOY considering the guy who did, Marc Gasol, didn’t even make the all-defensive 1st team that year. LeBron has always been recognized as pass first, and the 1 season he focused on scoring he was number 1. Idk I see your points but I hate that he’s punished for losing on the grand stage, when others flamed out early. To me the it should matter how far you go when you get to the playoffs, if winning is so valuable. How many times were bounced in the first round, second, or third. Add all of that if the finals records matter so much. I get your points, but I think the gap is marginable at best. It’s all perspective. I appreciate the discussion🤝🏾

[@apollorivers]

@@megavolt67might as well do tricks on it🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JeremyGraczyk]

"It's just basketball" The moment in time when LeBron finally accepted that he will never be the GOAT. That's why you've been seeing social media and Klutch Sports-affiliates pop up seemingly out of nowhere to call 90s players plumbers and focus on random clips of Jordan missing shots. If you can't beat 'em, try to tear 'em down to your level. It's the crab bucket mentality, which tells you all you need to know about LeBron and those he surrounds himself with

[@skyMcWeeds]

Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 > Wins 2/4 welp

[@mtmind3875]

2 still isn’t bad and he’s still the goat lol

[@Wcnmb1314]

@@mtmind3875you are joking right? What is he goat of, goat of promoting taco Tuesday?

[@parkinsaw]

@@Wcnmb1314 Goat of facing a dynasty in their prime and winning.

[@Wcnmb1314]

@@parkinsaw ah yes, the goat who won 4 out of 10 finals. I will confess he is the goat of losing to dynasty teams - at the end of the day he helped his opponents build the dynasty

[@Wcnmb1314]

@@parkinsaw I advise you read some history and see how many times Spurs and Warriors, 2 dynasties LeFlop helped build, beat Lebron. You can’t call someone goat when they have lost more than they have won NBA championships against the same teams, because by definition you are worse than Duncan’s Spurs and Curry’s warriors

[@ssor2816]

The main difference between MJ, Kobe and Lebron is that the former two takes accountability when they lose unlike Lebron who likes to point fingers and throw teammates under the bus.

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

Name one example where he threw teammates under the bus or didn't take accountability😭 even in the 2018 finals where Jr threw the game away lebron didn't point any fingers, when his teammates in other finals averaged about half the points they did in the regular season he didn't point any fingers. I can give you so many examples of lebron fucking backpacking a team while taking accountability whenever they lose

[@ssor2816]

@@IkhoOnyejelem The video just showed him writing cryptic tweets attacking KLove and him not respecting his coaches. When they were not winning in LA he was blaiming WB. Lebron takes the credit but does not take accountability. He always acts arrogantly like the not one not two not three moment but then acts like he has no help when they are losing.

[@ssor2816]

@@IkhoOnyejelem and he also likes to trade his players then leaves his team when they are not as good as before. If he was taking accountability then he wont blame his team for losing and in fact take the blame himself cause he is the main guy.

[@junson3209]

Or fakes an injury 😂😂

[@NNK1224]

There's literal videos of MJ and Kobe blaming their teammates, u just have to remove their dicks from your mouth to see it.

[@jdeljones]

The Jordan, Kobe, Shaq comment in the opening segment is way off base. Those were direct with their expectations for their teammates. And if their teammates came up short, they went at them directly. The critiques with Lebron is that he's always subtweeting. Leaking things to the media. He's not direct. And that's a problem.

[@MikeBNumba6]

Lebron is indirect. He's that passive aggressive manager we know at work. Fake. You're right. That's the problem with his "leadership"

[@dionysise5008]

For all the great things he did I still believe they were couple of critical decisions I would flip. For example he could stay in Miami forever since it's a power organization. Or never go to LA where the standard is too high

[@malcolmpuhawan3695]

...Less money to get a quality bench ...the 4 other players have to pick-up the slack on defense ...additional money from endorsements will mostly go to him ...he takes the credit for victories but will blame teammates if you lose ...if you're a coach, you'll get fired if you don't give him the title by your 2nd year, even if you have a great record ...as a player, if he doesn't like you, even if you're a good player, you'll probably get traded soon ...you need to find center who: has a great low post game, plays great defense inside, but can shoot the 3...because HE can't ...and now, run the risk of having his kid, who looks still unready for rhe pros, being included in your line-up

[@BSmoothe805]

The king of passive aggressiveness

[@xTHESALTSHAKERx]

only child syndrome. He used to getting his own way

[@HackiEra]

Good thing you uploaded this.👀👌

[@awesomereviews1561]

The downside is that he doesn’t make his teammates better, he makes them tradable. Also zero accountability for him.

[@ronaldconley9550]

@@mkbzamhe’s saying Larry bird years back made a statement saying “I said 'you don't understand son. Them guys playing with LeBron James look a whole lot better than what they really are. '” Basically saying that guys like timofey mosgov, dellavadova, chalmers, the reason why those guys got contracts elsewhere was because of their winning success thanks to Lebron. He gave them a purposeful role that teams found important to build a championship roster

[@stezypeasy]

​@@jamespressman1202 this is no way shows how lebron is a great player 😭 wth r u even talking about

[@jamespressman1202]

@@stezypeasy how can you says hes not a great player?

[@stezypeasy]

@@jamespressman1202 No, I said what you said says nothing about his ability and actually says the opposite "He makes his teammates put up empty stats" does that even make sense lol

[@魏旭林]

@@jamespressman1202 so laughable hahah

[@justright_]

All of these maneuver all these years just to end up 2 championship short of the real GOAT 🐐

[@itumelengmafilika568]

12:01 kuzma had to push him 😂😂😂 he had no choice 😂😂

[@seriouslystewarts3537]

“CORRECTION” Kyrie demanded a trade after the Cavs and Klutch tried to trade him behind his back 👀

[@darbenferrer1555]

Let's face it, LeBron is a certified locker room toxic, if the Lakers would do like what the Celtics did their roster they would still be competitive, young and playing at the highest level. LeBron think of himself as a 🐐 on and of the court.

[@alexescutia4805]

Not everyone can ride the success of one heist of the century trade with the nets lmao

[@mtmind3875]

Because he is

[@argentinacastillo3135]

Si Lakers going to playoffs are not competitive smh

[@魏旭林]

@@mtmind3875 bron is not top3

[@magicmillz]

@@魏旭林he’s 39 years old. There would be some tough conversations to be had if an old man was top 3

[@Heffy424]

His scrutinization is well deserved when you proclaim yourself King and buy into bring the chosen one you’re asking for it.

[@Mason_23]

People hate him because he’s confident man. I will never hate someone for calling themselves king or whatever

[@dylanwesley3964]

I mean to be fair lebron came out of the gate at top 15 player. His rookie numbers are wild for his age.

[@EA-dweller]

@@Mason_23 sure we’ve all seen the type of people “the god’s chosen people” happen to be. Delusional and lunatics. It’s always dangerous to self proclaim yourself to be superior to others.

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

He didn't even give himself that nickname weirdo

[@jasonugwu8326]

Never gave that name to himself bum. Jordan called himself Jesus and nobody said shit y’all hypocrites

[@eamparbeng]

There's this KZbin channel called Basketball Examined that points spot on the problem with the "LeBron System". Even Iman Shumpert and Kobe before his passing pointed out his flaws

[@Laid2Sleep]

link it!

[@homer23422000]

Lebron's biggest problem with his game is that he refused to be coachable and play under one of the top 5 head coaches in the league, which likely would have had him play for Popovich in San Antonio, Rick Carlisle when he was in Dallas, Quinn Snyder in Utah, Mike D'Antoni in New York (Knicks), Doc Rivers in Boston and at least 2 other notable NBA head coaches were available to coach him up to help him get a 5th NBA title by now.

[@eamparbeng]

@@homer23422000 I totally agree. MJ and Kobe may have been egotistical, but they both humbled themselves before Phil Jackson cuz they knew that it was their tickets to championships

[@accshsmilgroup1408]

I don't hate LeBron. But man this is facts. This is the reality why LBJ is hated. His hurting his own legacy by his own GM stuff etc. The worst part of it is that, when his team losses it's others fault except him. But when his team won, he grabs all the credit. As if he did it alone. And LBJ most of the time don't hold himself accountable. And sometimes he's an irresponsible teammate. He throws other under the bus. I never seen MJ did that. Jerry Krause even praised MJ that "MJ never approach him to draft a player or trade a player". MJ is also coachable. He always listen to his coach and let the coach do his job. MJ is not micromanaging stuff. He understood that he's a player and as the team captain he led by example, yes he can be an a**h*le sometimes as a teammate especially when he punched Steve Kerr but he led by example, he was a role model to his teammate to a point that his teammate rise and was up to the challenge. Even Scottie Pippen benefited from MJ. Lot has been saying that Pippen is better than MJ. Pip wasn't even a great player when he entered the League. He only averaged like 11ppg in his first 3 years. Like BJ Armstrong said in the Last Dance "Scottie has a raw athletic ability, but he doesn't have MJ had. The consistency and the competitive drive MJ had" Scottie grew as a great defender learning from MJ. MJ was the reason Pip prove. But anyways, going back to the conversation, Mj was a great leader. He never threw his teammates under the bus. When he and his team lost, he never blamed them nor tgrow them under the bus. He even congratulated and shakes the opposing teams and players hands when they lost. I saw an interview of MJ when they lost against the Bad Boys, MJ said "They we're a great team, and they we're the better team and hopefully next season we can go back and play better against them". That's what great leaders do! They always up to the challenge and leave by example.

[@1wayroad935]

So many players are celebrated for being top 10 or 20 of all time. LeBron is ridiculed because he's considered 2nd best all time.

[@Theking87rb54]

nah tim ducan is

[@jennyanydots2389]

Lebron is ridiculed for other things. Not being considered number one is just projecting the inferiority complex... him and his fans. Lebron's attitude is why people ridicule him. Even the "haters" think he's an all time great on the court, what's wrong if someone thinks he's top 10 or top 20? Nothing. That's not why it comes with the hate.

[@brian1011234]

@@Theking87rb54 bot

[@jonathand.t.5051]

​@@jennyanydots2389I know some haters who are so delusional they probably dont think he cracks top 50 or was a f tier industry plant who was babied up to superstardom by the NBA to sell tickets lmao

[@martialartist3953]

@@jonathand.t.5051and many people think fans who put lebron at goat status are just as delusional🙏so it is what it is

[@Icriticrandomthings]

Let's be honest. When Bron's teammates/coaches get traded, there is no way his decision and presence isn't a major part of it. No organization would trade/acquire pieces away without Bron's knowledge or "go-signal" because every org he played in, he reiterated that he was "that guy" they should build around with and it wouldn't make any sense to bring in players who won't fit in "Bron's system". Every team he played for got a lot of young players/veterans traded away to accomodate his wants/needs and acquired players that could support his style of plays. The problem is, they went in on so much trouble getting Bron what he wants thinking that was a start of something big but in the end, everything just falls out and everyone's starts criticizing him because he couldn't get them a ring despite all the trouble to accomodate his needs.

[@edwardchristian9529]

Great perspective. 💯

[@hugheswhiteman1674]

Lebron's story isn't that illustrious. He's NEVER hit a game winning finals shot. Never struggled growing with a team, etc.

[@sbrooks904]

oh cmon. no one has had more expectations put on them from day one and he somehow exceeded what people expected. that alone is legendary. he ain’t perfect but cmon

[@hugheswhiteman1674]

@@sbrooks904 not saying he's a bum. He's top 15 at very least. With that talent, couple with crowning ya self.... He's come up short more often than not. Never the 🐐

[@Omnent]

Oooohhh he never had a gaming winning final shot, throw away the whole resume 😗

[@Omnent]

“Never struggled with a team” were you in a coma in 2014-2018

[@hugheswhiteman1674]

@@Omnent with Kyrie and Love? How do you struggle wit that🤔 Loves your 3rd option!!!

[@ardie1987]

Even the NBA was in a chokehold. They gave 2 no.1 picks to cleveland so everything was set when he returned 🤣🤣🤣

[@MJ-xq2wj]

Lol Kuzma pushing LeGM to play defense. Loved that. 😁 11:56

[@knathanknathan]

1:10 anybody else doing that to a basketball would had been issued a technical foul

[@melvin6889]

Finally highlighting that the narrative of how he makes everyone better is false

[@melvin6889]

Wade won without him, Kyrie is about to win without him and AD probably would’ve with a good enough supporting cast

[@User47693]

Cap asf there's context and he does make teammates better

[@thediseaseisthecure]

@@User47693 Cap asf

[@HaslemBurner]

@@User47693 most of his teammates are considerably declining when they play with lebron and play better when traded or signed by a different team. i wonder why...

[@edwardjamespepito]

⁠​⁠@@melvin6889 He won the champ without Wade and he won without Kyrie too so, what's the point?

[@jaymac4448]

I have yet to see video of what goes on at a LeBron practice. Cant say he's the most scrutinized when others were being judged even by practice habits.

[@ilphi08]

If you're a star Playing with Lebron means when you're winning Lebron gets most of the credits But when you're losing, you get most of the blame

[@knowledgeovermoney4100]

This video was well put together 🤝🫡

[@AJ42K]

I said this once & I will say it again for the 1,000th time. Dwayne Wade was the captain, Lebron controlled everyone & everything, & Bosh was the one who was left out or not talked about much. That's the same with Irving & Love. Irving was like Wade before Lebron returned to Cleveland & Love was exactly like Bosh.

[@long_strong8843]

You have to help your teammates to get better, not just trade them

[@katharinerollwagen7173]

1 hour gang!!! love your vids Nonstop❤❤❤

[@suntansuperman26]

Some people really think this dude is the GOAT smh

[@hlegotstickdrift]

No like cuz he is😂😭😭💀💀🤣

[@GS-mh6ub]

​@@hlegotstickdriftYeah, he is too delusional folks who can't contextualize.

[@Wedarealsinnas]

@@hlegotstickdriftat what? losing?

[@PinnHeadPatt]

@@Wedarealsinnaslosing? Didn’t he go to 10 straight finals? Doesn’t he have more fmvps than guys like Kobe, Bird, Magic, and Curry? 😂

[@Wedarealsinnas]

@@PinnHeadPatt inna weak ass east with d wade punk ass, chris bosh, kyrie irving, kevin love, That lebron james?

[@succinctlylong]

"He can't stand up to the pressure. The higher the expectations, the worse he performs." The most concisely accurate assessment of LJ!

[@jjdesanto1]

What he did to David blatt was uncalled for. Undeserved disrespect. Great coach. Lebron was being a pre Madonna b

[@michaelhunziker7287]

It's prima donna

[@jdapaul1351]

Instead of trading players, Mike led his teammates by example. Sure, he can be an ass, but the results speak for themselves. His teammates understood what Mike wanted to accomplish, so they rose up alongside him, proved that they could be trusted, and won.

[@fyntc]

i think the reason lebron is so impatient is because his ultimate goal is to surpass michael jordan, so i he doesnt want to waste time on a rebuilding team when he had already wasted his first 7 years in cleveland with them not building a championship roster around him. Hence the decision and the rest is history, the GM moves are going to be more frequent as lebron is aging and wants to win now. Mike had an organization that actually tried to build around his talent and along with that he never had the expectations of becoming the greatest of all time so he never really played the gm role, but i'm not sure how contracts even worked back then and how players could be traded and how often.

[@jdapaul1351]

@@fyntc I'm sure LeBron knows chemistry is must, but I think you're right that he's impatient.

[@MikeBNumba6]

​@@fyntca 66 win team not a championship roster? Top 5 defense? Top two 3pt shooting team. Cleveland not building a championship roster his first 7 years in the NBA is the biggest myth yall come up with. The cavs literally favorites to get to the finals LeBron's final two years in cleveland. They couldn't even get out the second round because that man couldn't hit jumpers, free throws and he kept turning the ball over

[@fyntc]

@@MikeBNumba6 lebron was a mvp during that season, but what happened as soon as he went to miami, they became a 19 win team after being a 61 win team, so its clear that the cavs were only top heavy team that can be good in the regular season just relying on lebron at his althletic peak, however they had no depth or a reliable 2nd option next to lebron.

[@davis2k1234]

@@fyntcBy your logic MJ could have said the exact same thing about his 7 years in Chicago in 1990 especially after Pippens 1-10 2PT game 7 ECF and the Cavs were trying spending ton of $$ think they were 3rd behind LA Boston his last 2 seasons it’s not easy just build a championship team why couldn’t he recruit a Bosh to Cleveland?

[@Straw_Hat_11]

LeGM has always been the biggest hinderance to his own success. He could’ve easily passed Kobe and MJ had he stayed out of his own way but alas, he could not and now only has 4 rings and the 4th is the most debatable because of it being a bubble championship. Can’t be the GOAT when you can’t win on your own.

[@Bilious303]

Ive said hes the greatest second option of all time. He has 4 rings snd 4 finals mvps being the second option. But youre right he gets in his own way and has 6 final losses trying to be the first option.

[@karinaabluuey]

so jordan is not the goat? he made it into the finals 9 years later after pippen came

[@karinaabluuey]

meanwhile bron dragged an ass cavs team to the finals in his 4th year at 22 years old

[@JamesWoodring-mu2iz]

espn is airing the last dance tonite ! love it!

[@Straw_Hat_11]

@@karinaabluuey Jordan is the greatest of all time because no one beat him in the finals. When the lights were the brightest and the pressure was on, they passed the ball to Jordan cause they knew it was a lock he’d make it. Yes, LeBron has a valid argument in the goat conversation but whenever you look at his playoff wins and how many players the lakers have traded for since he joined them proves my point. He can’t win on his own, hence why he has AD & had Kyrie and Kevin Love in Cleveland and Bosh & Wade in south beach

[@wyattkrumanaker6116]

if you rank lebron above jordan all time, i really wonder if you ever got to witness michael jordan play.

[@FallouFitness_NattyEdition]

I question if they actually have brain damage. I've seen his delusional fans try to say that Lebron was the GOAT because he never lost in the first round of the playoffs. You can't covience these idiots that having a perfect finals record totally trumps having a perfect record in the first round of the playoffs 😆 🤣. And James doesn't even that anymore since he got knocked out by Denver in the first round.

[@capcap184]

Notice it’s the new gen saying he’s the goat they been pushing the “we done with the 90s” bullshit when they weren’t even alive then 💀

[@wyattkrumanaker6116]

@@capcap184 it’s crazy, there were so many great players in jordan’s era as well but jordan was so good you don’t really remember them

[@alfasiger4178]

@@wyattkrumanaker6116 Thats because no one won a ring from beating Jordan. Everyone won a ring from beating lebron.

[@Omnent]

@@wyattkrumanaker6116Barkley, drexler and a washed magic, yeah micheal really had some harsh competition

[@LighthouseJaye]

He throws subs like Drake. He low-key wants to be a rapper/mob boss so bad... I'm new to NBA (nobody is new to LeBron) so I'm playing "catch up" on LeKing's character history, I'm so surprised at how much he's responsible for his failures as well. Honestly I gave benefit of the doubt because in football (Soçça) sometimes the dressing room can ruin a good team, or a good dressing room is made of equally bad players... "LaGM" was *making* these decisions and to me? This puts him below Kobe & MJ. Why? When you have this much power but you don't have any guiding light you can just end up making an absolute mess. Unfortunately, it looks like he did that mess 2/3 times over, bringing special players with him only to leave them looking lost. It's no accident some just lose "it" after one season.

[@peshlegen8037]

“Kobe refusing to pass his team mates the ball” I just knew which clip he was gonna use there 🤣🤣🤣😭

[@KimConradRunas]

With this myriad of issues with Lebron, there is no debate anymore who's the GOAT. MJ is and always will be the GOAT.

[@Tsukuyomi_99]

You know ur a good coach when even LeGM cant make them fire you😂. Spo is the only survivor to tell the tale😂

[@Mason_23]

That was proven false lebron never try to fire Eric. Here’s what happened after 2011 wade, bron and bosh all set down with pat they all wanted pat to take over the coaching . And pat says no Eric will be the coach.

[@firefistace2024]

​@@Mason_23well, you can't trade a coach hahaha

[@Mason_23]

@@firefistace2024 I mean fire it was proven false.

[@Darksky1001able]

The dude named himself king. He cant even hang with The Dream. Let alone Jordan.

[@IkhoOnyejelem]

He didn't give himself that nickname, it was given to him by a local news paper during his high school days🤣 bozo

[@Tmifeds]

nope his name means king

[@jasonugwu8326]

Again are Jorbumtard knowing nothing about nba history except Jorgambler. Legoat got that name from the Media not like your Idol who called himself Jesus blasphemy

[@joechucks1555]

Who likes these bs comments??

[@jasonugwu8326]

@@joechucks1555 Low Iq Jordan fans who also believe that the earth is flat

[@frankieclayton9303]

This is so true 👍

[@long_strong8843]

Literally he will want you to be traded, and the coach just listens. That's not the right thing to do. He should help his teammates to get better

[@cain948]

He is a bad teammate and a bad leader

[@jennyanydots2389]

Settle down my son, it's just a Big Round Bouncy Ball my son. Calm yourself, do not beet dawgs in the streets or throw babies in the trash over these things.

[@cain948]

@@jennyanydots2389 soooo?? What's ur point?? I'm just telling the truth

[@stephenishola6205]

Typical LeBron fans.. saying non basketball related shit anyone speaks negatively on this man it’s just insane.

[@RobG-on1sk]

Get out of here Bronsexual

[@ImnotAbott]

Bad leader? You sure

[@swankwms]

0:35 does JR Smith really thrive under pressure?

[@bread1423]

To be fair I only knew about jr when he was with bron he was also immature before bron

[@Spoomples]

my sunshine

[@cameronspencer214]

What is the downside playing with Lebron? Everything!!!!!

[@YourSunshine-k9z]

wsg

[@YourSunshine-k9z]

@@cameronspencer214 keep talking your shit i'll beat your ass

[@YourSunshine-k9z]

@@cameronspencer214 i'll trade u

[@TheJohnWick1]

​@@cameronspencer214casual

[@mart1n10601]

This is a great summary video for those new fans (started watching in the 2020 opandemic and don't have the attention span to sit through whole games). They should now understand the hate lebron got early in his career and his failures.

[@thekidfromcleveland3944]

And this is why cleveland needs to stay away in this sweepstakes. I was born here. Have been a fan since the B free and Brad days. Im forever grateful for him fulfilling the promise. And i can tell you firsthand. We not getting another 2016 outta him. And more importantly we got something going that if he comes back will be irreparably changed. Yeah might lose Spida but we still got alot of young guns with plenty of time to come into their own. And.......after 2018 as impressive of a run as it was outta him. Shouldve never come to that. And it did. Because of his influence. Man said itself. He had that front office hostage. And while i don't even trust us. A front office needs to be able to make decisions and moves without basically a player being your GM in that. Especially when it comes player salary. Im sure brady wanted certain guys to stay. But he for the most part let bill do whatever he needed to do and made it work. Or made moves with his contract that allowed the team to keep them. Not demand and sure as hell not threaten. 1st time was on us and i understand why hes been that way since he left us in 2010. 2nd time.. ....theres more to that story. And its a chapter we need to stay closed

[@Bilious303]

The best you can hope for is to be a footnote in someone elses story....and even that story aint that great.

[@JaMorantfan420]

Losing a lot, bad trades, ball hog, etc

[@Billy-ot8mk]

Lebron wants to focus on the offensive side off ball so that he doesn't have to expend energy to play defense except for when he has to get a chase down block but mainly defense is Davis's and his other teammates job.

[@8red227]

Wow can’t believe you are blaming a 39 years old Lebron for not playing defense. Why can’t you blame Russell, Reaves, the lakers bench players didn’t do well in the playoffs that lead to Lebron and AD need to put more effort on offensive and defensive during the first half.

[@SportsOnlyYoutube]

This video is amazing

[@nymetsfan9121]

I forgot who said it but they nailed it saying “playing with lebron is a gift n a curse cause if you win he gets all the credit, if you lose you get all the blame”

[@xTHESALTSHAKERx]

Its called The Poisoned Chalice

[@SBJohnson86]

He's a goat but not the goat. Simple. That's not in question. He will always be below Jordan and possibly Kobe. That's a little more debatable but he is absolutely one of the greatest of all time.

[@jennyanydots2389]

Kobe's below him at the moment though.

[@SBJohnson86]

​@@jennyanydots2389I can see that. I can. As a complete player, not based on some lucky big shots, LeBron definitely better than Kobe.

[@jonathand.t.5051]

Unless LeBron does something horrifically bad at the very tail end of his career (like, Karl Malone level bad probably), he'll still be above Kobe once he retires

[@jennyanydots2389]

@@jonathand.t.5051 Well, yes, Kobe will still be below Lebron unless he, you know, has some kind of serious accident like, Kobe. It's really just a race to the bottom for all of us when you think about it completely improperly.

[@michaelperez3720]

He was never above Kobe. Lebron couldn't hold a candle to Kobe 🤣 Way more success with MUCH less help. Meanwhile, lebron has had the most help in history and has alosing record in the finals. Aside from his athleticism, there isn't anything that he does better on the basketball court

[@KennyPolaris]

One thing for sure, Bron may be a great player, but definitely not a great GM

[@HaslemBurner]

and he acts like he's so smart off the court too 😂

[@alexescutia4805]

He’s won titles with every team he’s been on that he’s called “the gm” for

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

LBJ may not be a great GM, but he is certainly better than the "GOAT" who drafted Adam Morrison, Emeka Okafor, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, & Tyler Zeller in the top 5 picks. MJ has zero ability to evaluate talent, which should tell you how much of a GOAT he really is (having the best team in a watered down expansion era).

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

@@HaslemBurner facts are facts bruh

[@michaelperez3720]

​@@alexescutia4805 Only because of the super teams. He's proved without a super team he can't do s***

[@BoccaBeats]

Thank God Pat didn't fire Spoelstra, he really was the only one with balls to say no to LeGM

[@Daofro0]

That Caruso & KCP one just stings. They were really good for the team but they let them go🙌

[@clanwaddell5628]

Being a Heat fan is about team. I don't get following a player and just following him wherever he goes. I didn't become a Bulls fan when Wade left. I love that 2010-14 run, but it took all those guys. Norris Cole, Birdman, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, everyone chipped in.

[@chill6789]

one of the all time greats, stop the BS the mofo ain't top 10

[@orlandowilliamson691]

And I thought I was a LeBron hater damn 😂

[@Omnent]

Yeah this is next level hating

[@chill6789]

@@Omnent facts & hate learn the difference

[@Omnent]

@@chill6789 ranking players & ranking a player you don’t like Learn the difference

[@chill6789]

@@Omnent you're a fan boy that can't control his emotions🤣🤣 learn the difference between a fan of the game & pathetic fan boy like yourself go better yourself and stop idolizing another man

[@AlldatJazz-rw9wy]

The saddest part is about to happen, because they won't get a real coach ans that's a bad look for Lefraud. Especially if they hire JJ, making the rumors true, the Lakers will be officially over at that point. Then the Lakers f.o. has no one to blame but themselves when they can't fill the arena anymore. De. Buss must be turning over in his grave....😢

[@andrewcook1246]

Upside: guaranteed attention. Downside: guaranteed attention.

[@davidmartinez52420]

The series of one year deals also bit him in the ass when the Cavs had a potential trade for Paul George in the works but David Griffin didn't wanna sell put the future for temporary possible success.

[@bandito241]

Iverson always emphasizes his point by repeating it so many times. He’s a living meme. Love that guy! Miss you seeing on TV AI3

[@mjolnir3580]

2:06 why gotta grab lebron's head like that 😂

[@hooper3332]

My problem with LeBron is the way he constructed the teams and how he leaves his teams, did the Cavs dirty twice, heat and now possibly the lakers but I have no problem saying him and Jordan are 1A and 1B in the goat conversation and leaving those who know basketball better than me debate who is 1A until the heat death of the universe.

[@LXXV_Mizuka]

Here's my goats at these Eras 1990's - Jordan 2000's - Kobe 2010's - Lebron There plain and Simple

[@ejm110]

Letting Caruso go was a big mistake

[@chhansen9813]

Hes WHITE, LeBrhonda is a racist

[@mayo2265]

Takes a special type of player to thrive with Bron, not to say he isn’t all good, it takes confidence and just overall work ethic. Not many players posses that especially at his level.

[@Midknyte182]

Honest question, do you think Jordan would have a list like this if he played in the modern era with social media and how streamlined information is?

[@HOGISIMJAYUN]

So this is why Kyrie left Cleveland 😂

[@suntansuperman26]

Imagine averaging 27 ppg but everyone says LeBron came back from being down 1-3

[@jonathank786]

@@suntansuperman26I see your point but come on 😂🤣 they don’t make the finals without Bron when has Cleveland ever made it without Bron since he’s left them?

[@Omnent]

@@suntansuperman26He was finals mvp so yeah it’s fair to say that?

[@suntansuperman26]

@@jonathank786 Not saying LeBron isn’t needed obviously without him they wouldn’t be anywhere, but when we talk about championships in Jordan vs LeBron, LeBron fans are quick to talk about Jordan’s teammates but don’t do the same for LeBron