The Drachenhöhle: Potential Underground Maps in Battlefield 1's Apocalypse DLC?

[@froseo9]

i Love how you also include actual footage from ww1 in tour videos !

[@Flakfire]

I try very hard to do that, but am sometimes limited with what's available.

[@froseo9]

Flakfire yup. totally understand that. But it is always a welcomed bonus when you find it 😊.

[@antoinegontier482]

Flakfire go on dailymotion,and look for "Apocalypse, la première guerre mondiale". It's a documentary of 5 or 6 episodes that use old colirized footages of WW1. It's in french but you'll love it

[@chairmanm7686]

I'm sure dice watches your opinion and videos CLOSLY. What if you could cave in the whole tunnel system with enough dynamite and other explosive and then continue battle both over ground and underground!!

[@Flakfire]

They do. :D And that would be nice. There were supposedly seven entrances to the Drachenhoehle, so I would like to see surface fighting, too.

[@ThePackman627]

What if you could use dynamite to collapse parts on the underground tunnel and then go up into the trenches?

[@theawesomesausage]

ThePackman627 YISS

[@carlosmariscal6228]

Albin Stengripe That sounds great and not too far fetched since we've had crazier leveloution in BF4

[@ThePackman627]

Please DICE do some sweet destruction! Frostbite can do it! DON'T HOLD BACK and make a sweet map!

[@TheMister17]

I like it how you say "Drachenhöhle" 😄

[@Flakfire]

Draccchhenhoehle. Good ol' Swiss accent.

[@timeforepic_inc.2105]

You're from Switzerland?

[@fibbsonthischannel5364]

Flakfire what accent

[@rubydragon4563]

TheMister1752 i want to se the drahfmlndnkddjjnjd nmndkbjdba in battlefield 1

[@Jacob-bi1oq]

Ruby dragon 456 . Don't make fun of languages or else I'll make you pronounce gepanzerte Fahrzeuge mit Bomben und Raketen-Wissenschaft. Ok?

[@AKAARTOFFICIAL]

Imagine the grenade spam in an underground tunnel..... COUNT ME IN!

[@alexandermerida436]

Flakfire, your videos are great, never boring, the way your videos are laid out and flow so smoothly. It's definitely nice to watch a video and pretty much be informed completely as most KZbinrs merely mention things and drift off. Keep it up man!

[@aidanhoward1710]

I think the apocalypse dlc could be the one when we see the most trench warfare since the are focusing on the actual battles

[@boppyqt]

Mr.Medic .Medic all of the dlcs are focused on actual battles

[@rafaeld.soriano7627]

just look up at all of the maps battlefield with ww1

[@ghuldorgrey]

Mr.Medic .Medic they are based on real battles although not accurate obviously so the gameplay wins. for example empires edge doesnt look like its. real based location at all.

[@aidanhoward1710]

Yes I do know that the maps are based on real events I'm trying to say more realistic like trench warfare and going over the top with no cover

[@Ashfielder]

5 weapons for Apocalypse: - Bubble Daryl Shotgun - Thompson Annihilator - Sawn off rifle, likely the SMLE - (Edit) MG08/18 SMG [Put this in reluctantly as we've already had a DLC with two assault weapons. I think the last three DLCs will have two weapons per class, but for different classes] - Webley VI with Pritchard bayonet

[@Flakfire]

Bayonets always welcome.

[@rataide99]

Toby Wood MG08/18 SMG maybe. I know its an smg but could still work on the support class as a different type of weapon like the Rebeyrolles is a Carbine for the Assault class.

[@aidanhoward1710]

Toby Wood / Bubble Daryl 😂😂 gotta love h2o delirious

[@Gecko99]

I think in Apocalypse we will get: For Assault the Thompson Annihilator. For Medic the Howell Automatic Rifle. For Support the Burton LMR AND the Rossignol ENT. For Scout the Ross rifle. These weapons are all very unique and somewhat strange so I think they fit the DLC's description well, after TSNP I have a theory that each class will get two weapons in one of the DLCs with Assault being the first, Scout being the second, Medic being the third and Support being the last.

[@Johnny_Utah231]

railgun ;)

[@Plooble985]

If we do get underground maps, I think it'd be a neat mechanic to allow for players to dig tunnels with items like the shovel, and pickaxe.

[@Diegoku182Mugiwara]

Nice video as always. I would love that you talk about Belleau Wood Battle and the possibility of being an Apocalypse map as well.

[@sarswim6]

Great video, glad to see your channel taking off. The work and historical material you are putting into it deserves the recognition.

[@Ricardo-bf6zj]

Here hoping that DICE listens to you instead of other youtubers that only state balancing "issues". You are the one that brings the history out in the game Flak. keep it up.

[@Alexanderfoxfive]

flakfire i always love your videos.

[@Flakfire]

Thanks, Alex!

[@aiowl9830]

I like the name, and would be a new twist to things in Battlefield

[@capcamgaming6781]

I think it would be awesome and very unique if there were flags underground and then flags above ground on top of underground flags in the trenches. I think, however, the main focus should still be underground with only 1 or 2 flags above ground. It would be an amazing multilayere map and I think people would love it.

[@beansbeans5727]

I want a battle of Ypres, There were gas attacks there and many battles too with lots of brutal fighting.

[@vincentp.3573]

I think there's gonna be a new elite class with the mask he's probably gonna have a ton of dinamite and trip mines lol

[@austin_bennett]

I'd love to see an Easter egg with the detonation of WW1s largest explosion. The explosion held the record as largest known explosion (pre WW2) I believe it still holds the record as largest non nuclear explosion so it would make for an interesting concept & would DRASTICALLY change the landscape.

[@Sebaxtain]

5:15 explosion GONE SEXUAL

[@smolski9122]

cuckspolision

[@alex-od7mk]

Where do you get your WW1 footage? I am researching stuff on WW1 and I would love to see footage. Thank you for making great content!

[@Flakfire]

Here: catalog.archives.gov/advancedsearch

[@alex-od7mk]

Flakfire Thank you so much kind sir!

[@brickstar56]

2:34 they got their own YMCA underground!

[@makhnoismydaddy7729]

pretty good german pronounciation Flak! Altough try to slow down the part with hoehle, or Höhle as we spell it in Germany. You pronounce it mor like Hölle, the german word for hell, but that might also fit :)

[@Flakfire]

Danke, Sir.

[@xDTHx]

i think there will be a verdun map that takes place later in the war when the trenches were fully developed.

[@yonigrin1]

Love your thoroughness and quality research!

[@ACE1918]

I'm personally gonna say that the 4 maps for the last dlc will be centered around the battle of the Somme and the 3rd battle of Ypres. We could see some maps with mines being used such as the Hawthorn mine at the Somme or indeed the mines of Messines ridge (which some consider to be part or at least a prelude to 3rd Ypres anyways). I personally suspect these maps because they are more well known than the Nivelle offensive or even the battle of Arras for that matter.

[@skippysr4946]

FlakFire keeping the BF1 dream alive

[@HurricaneHomer9]

Your videos are nice for information on these battles!

[@Krongfah]

I'd prefer these over this potential underground map (I'll call it "the grenade spam hellhole") Battle of The Somme Battle of Vimy Ridge Battles of the Isonzo River Siege of Przemyśl I know most of these don't really fit the description of the DLC except them being infamous, but it'd be a shame not to see these battles in full Frostbite Engine glory.

[@something9030]

I'm not sure if you said so already but the Cavern du Dragon (Dragon's Cavern) got it's name from the muzzle flash of firearms from the entrance of the cave system, which looked like fire from dragons

[@Flakfire]

I didn't mention that, but that is correct.

[@15098D]

5:02 that smol rifle

[@jaeslow6347]

covered everything like a boss. you deserve so many more subs

[@viktordimitrov9938]

the drachenhöhle pronounciation was amazing Flakfire

[@isaacrico3426]

when dice says infamous ww1 battles, I hope to see Ypres and The Somme

[@PW.6060]

Oh yes! I had thought about battles like Messines that might have some underground fighting, but this looks so cool!

[@Henbot]

I always found it interesting how much warfare happened in WW1 then just trench warfare-- so many dont know that

[@alvinlif]

That Sounds Like A Great Idea!

[@mumpetwombat822]

The term 'diggers' during the First World War is not referring to the sappers that dug the tunnels but a 'digger' is actually an Australian soldier, yes Aussies were often the ones doing the digging anyway (hence the nickname) but a digger is an Australian soldier

[@thomasprice2457]

What are my thoughts? I think you're easily becoming the "go-to" BF youtuber. Great job!

[@filippopeviani7263]

Alps also featured underground tunnel development to place bombs underneath enemy positio, it was frequent that some mountain heights were ripped off after an italian detonation. it would be cool to see such thing and levolution.

[@shocker3080]

I was thinking one of the battles at Ypres would be a good fit for that dlc.

[@shocker3080]

Ypres is one of the more well known battlefields of ww1. I think it was the first place that poison gas was used against the allies. also i believe it has seen a lot of different forces fight there as well. French, English , Canadians, Algerians , Indians and more.

[@elevate141]

shocker3080 Vimmy would be a good contender. I imagine spawning as a German underground shells smashing into the ground above you then you have to see your enemy almost in your trench. It would be a good map for trenches and it could also add another country into the game, Canada.

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

It does say FAMOUS battles. And does it get more noteworthy then, say, the second battle of Ypres where Chlorine Gas was first used? My guess would be the Somme, Ypres, maybe Tannenberg, and some underground map whether is Messines Ridge, Voqaue, or the Drachenhohle.

[@shocker3080]

Second battle of ypres was the first time chlorine gas was used yes. Third was passhendale where they were fighting mostly in mud. Ypres was deffinatly one of the more contested areas of the war.

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

Ah, I forgot Passhendale. We need an incredibly muddy map and that works more then Tannenberg, that was gasping straws.

[@RezonFx]

I think it would be really cool to have the lights as an levelution event. Maybe you can destroy the main power grid and the cave get's really dark in a few corridors :p

[@archyvile9926]

I bet this map will suit you best, Flak, seeing as how you like to bayonet charge and get right in the action :D Love the videos by the way

[@Flakfire]

Yoooolooooooooooo

[@DingoDufty]

I'm hoping I'm not the only one to see YMCA on the rocks on the right of the screen at 2:37. "It's fun to stay at the YMCA..."

[@StevieTurtle37D]

I think Somme will be one or two maps and maybe some Macedonian Front maps too. Maybe they could add Serbia and Bulgaria as new factions. Maybe a underground map and a Livens Projector for massive gas attacks. Also a trench warfare gamemode where every country has a standard issue rifle would be cool.

[@tomwatson3035]

Kinda hoping for something along the lines of Final Stand. Keep it somewhat relevant to the theme of the time period but allow DICE to have nearly full creative freedom on all aspects.

[@kieranmelady4845]

They HAVE to put a Passchendaele map in there too. Mud sink holes, duck boards, impact craters with corpses, it's as apocalyptic as you can get. The dead forest as a backdrop... spooky.

[@SubjectX07]

Would love to see the Battle of Messines, including the part involving the mines underneath filled with charges. "Gentlemen, we may not make history tomorrow, but we shall certainly change the geography". -General Sir Herbert Plumer

[@danny50582]

Sad that this wasn't included:(

[@wangrecord5477]

I would be very happy that DICE would put the Battle of Vimy Ridge since it's cultural significance in Canadian history

[@JJ-vl9jj]

What about the battle of the somme?

[@ninjaGrim1]

aayyy - these vids are great! educational and related to a franchise so hopefully pulling in the views. win win.

[@krakenscustoms]

i think it'd be a nice addition just as the fort is great for that closed in feeling, a dimly lit cave could expand upon that feeling and add more CQC.

[@davebelcherguitar]

Excellent detective work on the gas mask-would love it if your hunch is right. Arras would be cool too, but I kind of think it would be too much like what we already have in the game (unless it included mines/caves...but the Drachenhöhle would be way cooler).

[@camymac8270]

I would love to see a tiny sawn off SMLE in the game! It reminds me of the pipe pistol from Fallout 4

[@Flakfire]

Probably hurts to use it.

[@__soap__]

I've been in there, although it's probably gonna be Somme or pashendaele

[@ghuldorgrey]

just found your channel. awesome videos and ww1 knowledge 👍

[@dogeboi1804]

Everytime you say Drachenhohle I get shivers

[@horseinacowshed1115]

Some infamous WW1 conflicts i know of are Tannenberg,The Somme,Verdun(duh),Gallipoli( in the upcoming "Turning Tides" DLC),Meuse Argonne,Battle of Ypres,and Vimy Ridge(?).

[@EpicSmileyMan64]

I actually guessed this as well like yesteday! XD I really wanna see this *but also* i wanna see the creeping barrage, like VERY badly. I think it would make for a heart pounding map having artillery hitting every second. The first words in the little picture for apocalypse says "go over the top" making me think that they could be thinking of doing this, plus the creeping barrage was experimental during the battle of Somme and i think it would fit in well for the experimental feeling they have going for this. Of course i have bias to this last statement but if i ever got to see Canada in this game i think my life would be complete, it's a huge part of our history and it shouldn't be ignored. plus it's easy on development, switch some badges around on the British trooper, bam! Instant Canadian!

[@philthephilosopher9235]

Or maybe this dlc will include the Battle of Passchendaele. Muddy and rainy conditions turned craters into lakes and soldiers died from sinking into the mud.

[@Kai-mg2sc]

Personally, I'm hoping that they'll add a proper trench mode set in the battle of the somme

[@nielshoof9752]

just imagine having the flamethrower kit underground!

[@romanace3432]

This would be awesome!!

[@isaiahjennings2295]

hey flak do you think the battle somme may appear as a operation in Apocalypse or as map also i would love to see the k wagon appear for the last DLC as well as the canadian army

[@Flakfire]

Yes, they haven't had a proper Somme map.

[@isaiahjennings2295]

nice i hope dice adds extra guns like free maps i really want to the Thompson annihilator a full length double shotgun and m1919 browing machine gun and the m1919 proto garand

[@lightBites137]

But both the Browning's and the M1 Grand's you describe were made/prototyped after the war.

[@spencerjamestomlinson2507]

Isaiah Jennings I would love the full length shotgun

[@michaelfernandez4291]

Flakfire, I'm interested in the "Drachehole" but I can't find anything on google about it. Any reading suggestions? Please and thank you!

[@rorywatt9752]

I went to this place yesterday irl and i think it could work like operation locker

[@dynamo6322]

I think DICE should make not only make multiplayer maps for apocalypse, but they should also make three or four more war stories centered around an average soldier taking part in these particular battles. Think of how cool it would be to go over the top at the somme with hundreds of other men, fight in a muddy mess at Third Ypres, or even pilot a tank in the battle of Cambrai.

[@theamityaddiction]

Could you do a video on possible elite classes?

[@ozymandias3456]

This might be a stupid idea but for a new elite class there could be a spy, like they can have a permanent flare gun field that reveals all enemies in that distance but it doesn't go away like the flare, and maybe they could blend in with the enemie team or something like that and have a weapon with a maxim silencer

[@Parkerrrferry]

I think some interesting guns in the Apocalypse DLC would be the British Farquhar Hill or the French Hagen Rifle for the medic class, the Schwarzlose Model 1898 for an all class sidearm, the Italian Perino Model 1908 for a stationary machine gun, the SIA Model 1908 Light Machine Gun for the Support Class, the Periscope Rifle for an attachment for the scout class similar to the periscope binoculars, the Gauntlet Dagger as a melee weapon option, the Austalian Jam Tin grenade, maybe for the upcoming maps on the Gallipoli Campaign, I think it would be cool to see a dreadnaught with striped camoflauge, the Italian OVP Villar or the American Andrews M1918 for the Assault Class, the German Ausschreibung 18/1 Maschinenpistole or as many call it the MG 15 N.a submachine gun for Assault, and the Russian Fedorov Avtomat 1912 for the Medic Class. I think Dice has a lot of options when it comes to this DLC.

[@jacobseymour409]

I really think Dice should add the Howell Rifle, as it would fit perfectly into Apocalypse, and can easily be added to the scout or medic classes. And I would also like to see Belgium be added into the expansion, as they played a huge role on the western front. A few maps that could be added are The Battle of Halen, The Siege of Liege, The Battles of Ypres, The Battles of Yser and Lys, Burkel, and Buggenhout, and the famous Hundred Days Offensive. I also think Dice should add three new vehicles into the expansion, these being the Schneider CA1 tank, The Minerva armored car, and the Charron, Girardot et Voigt 1902.

[@rataide99]

Expectations for Apocalypse dlc: Passchaendele, Somme, underground combat, focus trenches, improvised weapons and a lot of close quarters combat and choke points.

[@wangonguy62]

I just brought this underground tunnel idea up the other day in a FB group. I think it would be fun, a cluster but fun

[@AGMAdept]

3:12 kept me waiting today :D

[@denn0574]

One shot for every time he said "Drachenhöhle" haha. Great Video :)

[@Wafflez-Man-YT]

This gotta be added to the DLC man , fort de vaux is a great map so they gotta make another underground map but more dirtier!!!

[@CosmeFulanito476]

hey flak, good video as always, I wanted to ask, is there a speciffic website where you take the ww1 footage? all I find in youtube is full of watermarks or in less than 144p :(

[@Flakfire]

Here: catalog.archives.gov/advancedsearch

[@Flakfire]

Not all of it's HD, you gotta take sometime and sort through it. Ignore everything in .WMV

[@CosmeFulanito476]

thank you!

[@THEMARKVPROJECT]

Id love to see the battle of messines in Bf1. My great Grandfather was wounded from shrapnel during the battle.

[@dd071798]

I hope they put Passchendaele & Battle of Somme in the DLC

[@unitedstatesofanime222]

DLC USA? Map: Chateau Thierry 1918 Gun: Burton 1917 LMR

[@ElViperr408]

DICE please listen to him!! He's the only Battlefield KZbinr who ACTUALLY knows his history! You won't be disappointed

[@gazjones6621]

Apocalypse should have a map in the Somme.. Where you have to fight under constant shell bombardment with trenches and no Man's land inbetween both sides and small tunnels where you can reach the enemy by crawling or going prone

[@letsgoBrandon204]

I wonder if they'll do the Livens Large Gallery Flame Projector as a behemoth. It was stationary so it likely won't work in gameplay.

[@Cakeorpieify]

I'd love to see some underground map! Was it really that big though? like Fort Vaux size?

[@Flakfire]

de Vaux was probably much bigger.

[@donaldmulders9943]

hi flackfire i like your idea about the dracchhenhoehle! and i like a sort kind of character creation, and that means cammo helmets and otther uniforms ?

[@victoriagaiger5540]

Dice have added 2 of the most famous battles in the war such as verdun but what about the somme I am guessing that will be one of the maps in Apocalypse

[@historyboycny2755]

I want to see one of the longest battles of the war. The Battle Of The Somme!

[@declanolivetti4319]

I’m having some Operation Métro feels

[@ultrajd]

I'm glad you mentioned the mesin Ridge underground engagements. another area that I think would be a great one would also be battlefields under Piketty. At least I think that's how you spell the name. I would imagine the underground mines that would be detonated would be a great system to use in a similar way to the Siege howitzer for maps like Verdun Heights. get push back far enough the game allows you access to one of these mines and then you detonated over a specific area. But it only lasts one shot or perhaps takes several minutes to recharge so to speak. I can also see underground battles as being a Haven for individuals that love using incendiary and gas grenades. Also if anyone gets down there with a flame Trooper or even trench Raider kit well things are not going to go well. as for improvised hand-to-hand weapons honestly the ideas are endless. My great-great-grandfather fought in the first World War as part of the Canadian infantry. He thought on Vimy Ridge. I remember reading in one of his journals that literally anything was used as a hand-to-hand weapon. you would have things like bayonets without the rifles. The Germans actually had a particularly nasty bayonet used by the Pioneer Corps which had a Sawtooth section on the back. Though this was seen as being I believe against the rules of War. you also had things like simple wooden chair legs. sticks with bundles of barbed wire wrapped around the top. The stereo typical piece of wood with nails driven into the end of it. Soldiers would even write home and have family members send knives and stuff to them. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the weapons would be something akin to a butcher's meat cleaver. in my mind DICE has a lot of creative freedom when it comes to designing hand-to-hand weapons.

[@aalmi002]

Sounds like a good idea to me! Dice should definitely do that!

[@Elliot_-hj3fz]

Yes I would, great video mate!

[@GHOST11656]

as much as that sounds cool imagine the explosive spam I'm dogging fucking grenades half the while playing fort Vaux imagine how bad it would be underground i want full on trench maps

[@fredyzuniga6887]

They should disable the grenades if they are going to do a map like this

[@Lawgamer411]

Keep in mind, underground combat leads directly towards clever use of the flamethrower and flame grenades. Remember, fire uses oxygen, and during Vietnam, the US used this effectively by using flames to kill the Vietcong in their tunnels by using the fire to suck out their oxygen. Would love to see this in game.

[@mammoth4349]

Can anyone else just hear a drop of water in their ear while picturing the caves

[@huliocsar2740]

Of course that I want this tunnels in BF1.

[@thenotorious1590]

Ok there's one problem with this, think about the amount of grenade spam occurring right now. now think about the amount of grenade spam in a freaking cave

[@LBXDragonJacob]

Yes I would love to see this map in bf1 and I will always share for bf1 and others who like it

[@fancytoast7948]

I wonder if DICE and EA will add more factions and other things like maps and weapons after the 4 DLCs since I know that in ww1 there was other factions like the Serbian Army, Bulgaria, Canada, Australia, Empire of Japan, and Portugal.

[@Gibbo263]

They should have generators in the caves, that if they get destroyed most of the lights go out, the only things that would light the battlefield up would be flares and muzzle flashes

[@fizzie1370]

I’m sure the battle of the Somme will be a battle in apocalypse

[@apexchief197]

I'd be ok with having a cave map but would prefer to it utilise the space above (trenches) too not a big fan of the meatgrider maps but this would be a good compromise and something not seen before.