The Draft Riots of 1863 - US Civil War - Extra History

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July 13th, 1863, New York City: The Colored Orphan Asylum is under siege. A cauldron of resentment, anti-authority, and racial tensions rise as the city becomes a battleground for Irish immigrants and the African American communities, who have been manipulated by powerful players. 🏢🔥 As anti-draft sentiments boil over into racial violence, the dire consequences of division and prejudice unfold in heart-wrenching detail. - When divisions are sown, everyone loses.
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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

You guys always make My day better🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

[@Altitude_adict]

How was this commented 7d ago is my phone glitching?😂

[@k1inzSukma]

@@Altitude_adict 😂 fr thinking the same thing

[@Gentleman_GamingYT]

Same

[@k1inzSukma]

@@Gentleman_GamingYT frrrrrr

[@KyleRayner12]

The tactic of pitting Irish Catholics against other immigrant groups has had a lasting legacy in a lot of Northern cities. I'm from Boston, where the most recent lynching recorded was in the 1970s, and there's a notable constituency of fiercely anti-immigrant and anti-nonwhite Irish-American locals, including a lot of my relatives.

[@newjerseyyouth4853]

What lynching

[@CodaMission]

​@XtoDoubt25 If that were the primary animus, they should still be pissed at ANY immigrant. But its suspiciously one pigment.

[@noahjohnson935]

​​@@XtoDoubt25 it's still horrible. The Irish of all people should be against oppression and racism, after experiencing it for so long. Oppressing non-whites makes us no better than the Anglos who wished to destroy Eire.

[@williamhamilton1154]

Yeah. Don’t think Canada didn’t see it’s own share of things like that. Well into the 20th century the Greek community in Toronto was targeted with such violence. That’s just a tiny slice of it.

[@Praisethesunson]

Including Marky Mark Walburg.

[@odolwa099]

Considering our history with the Brits, nothing disappoints me more as an Irish person than seeing our own people do to another what was done to us.

[@typemasters2871]

I might be Northern Irish myself but I 100% agree with you

[@mccloaker]

Remember, we're all the same kind of person. We're all one empty stomach away from trying to eradicate the competition.

[@powerist209]

Ironically, Ireland seems to be testing ground for what British would do to India (namely extracting resources in time of famine, meager handouts, and second class citizens to everyone, even the rich with “exceptions”) yet made up large chunk of British Army personnel who tends to suppress them.. Not that universal since there was an Irish journalist who converted to Buddhism and advocated for Burma Independence (then part of British Raj*), and both Irish and Indian activists often shared solidarity. * To add similarity with the video, they also pit various groups, whether it’s between Muslims and Hindus in India, or Buddhists against Christian hill people, lower class Indians, and Chinese that screwed things up even after independence.

[@balls9420]

As a Cornish Person I'm starting to see that same worrying trend in SOME Cornish Nationalists. They are hating the English people for doing basically nothing. A lot of these on the extreme end of Cornish Nationalism, not to anyone's surprise have a list of mental problems.

[@thedaniel4999]

People always like to punch down. What better way to make yourself feel better about your place in society than to seemingly assert your social superiority against your seeming lessers

[@trippyhare]

Whenever someone in power tells you to hate another stigmatized group, their goal is *never* to increase your power. That line right there is brilliant.

[@05Matz]

Definitely a great line. The core lesson of this bloody incident summed up well, and sadly it remains a very relevant lesson.

[@shawnwarrynn8609]

So why is it that lately Extra History seems to be encouraging this among the various minorities and minority groups of America?!

[@malogibeaux4946]

@@shawnwarrynn8609 CARE TO EXPLAIN,

[@informatikabos5481]

@@malogibeaux4946 If I had to guess, I'd assume they are referring to several videos that subjects the discrimination and crimes that happened especially in the US against various minorities living in America. To which I'd respond with "If I'm can't even point out the injustices that have and still are committed against my community, how can I ever expect for things to change? How subservient do you want me to be until you grant me the simple right to exist?" (Obv. I don't know if thats what they meant, but it's a common sentiment on the internet.)

[@malogibeaux4946]

@@informatikabos5481 fun fact, I did not meant it to be in capital (caps lock but it looks way better this way).

[@louthegiantcookie]

What level of evil do you have to be to attack an orphanage of all things? I first read about the Draft Riots in the book Gangs of New York, and was shocked at just how sadistic the mob were. Awful times.

[@SugaPappi32]

I love the movie

[@DJHDOG]

Very easy to act that way, if they see the other side as "not people"

[@existentialcrisisactor]

The American standard is pretty evil once looked at objectively

[@markmower1746]

​@@DJHDOGYou're right, when the other people act more like animals more than people...

[@righthandstep5]

​@markmower1746 reminds me of war for the planet of the apes.

[@kellenlean2076]

The gangs of New York is a great movie that depicts some of the riots albeit in a very Hollywood way. The military shells New York in the movie which never happened but other then that I think it does a good job at showing what they were like.

[@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy]

I didn't realize Gangs of New York took place during the Civil War.....

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

I saw someone use that scene to describe what it mustve been like when the Savlar Chemdogs arrived in a hive city, if you know Warhammer 40k.

[@silvertalon007]

"CALL A DOCTOR! CALL A DOCTOR!" * Readies Up Gatling Guns * "But Not For Me!"

[@Gillemear]

While I am a proud Irishman who has heard many times how the Irish "built" America, I appreciate this dark chapter in our shared history. It's just as important to recognise the darkness as well as the light in the past. Only then can we learn from our mistakes

[@beaglaoich4418]

If only we would learn from said darkness now instead of mistreating other vulnerable minorities that come here for a better life

[@Double_D__]

I did a quick Google Search on a whim to find out how much it would cost in today's money to avoid the draft with these laws: If you had to pay $300 in 1863 to avoid the draft, today it would cost a little over *_$7,300_* in today's money. I've heard of Class Warfare, but this really was the rich leaving combat and warfare to the lower classes. Despicable.

[@jamesboswell1804]

This isn't the wealthiest country in the world for nothing

[@50TNCSA]

rich man's war poor man's fight

[@Merennulli]

That's our European heritage. There have been exemptions for the wealthy for a very long time. And it didn't really end. The exemptions got more convoluted, but draft exemptions like being a college student before the era of student aid had an obvious intent. By the Vietnam War, it was a lot more accessible to the middle class, but still not for a lot of people.

[@joythought]

I agree with your points but imagine being the head of finance for the Union army and knowing that if you can extract a significant amount of extra money from all the wealthy folk of the North you can afford the provisions, equipment, etc to overmatch your enemy. I would suggest that there is a chance that the money was an important cash flow. It was called the "Commutation fee" and it could be charged to someone on each draft for which they were called and wanted to avoid.

[@BillMcD]

@@joythought the problem is it shouldn't have been a randomized per capita tax, but part of a larger progressive income tax structure. Federal income tax wasn't established until 1913. At this point the country could only rely on war bonds and state funds to pay for soldiers and gear. The "commutation fee" was arbitrary in who it hit, and often times it would be better to hire someone to go in your stead either because it was cheaper or it was a sure way to not get back in the draft again. I highly doubt the Union Army saw much if any of that money.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Just because New York was in the union doesn’t mean they weren’t horribly racist at the time. During the civil war for a lot of people in the north it was more about preserving the union than freeing the slaves.

[@Ninja1Ninja2]

this logic is how the south can still say it was states rights lol

[@witoldtadeusz]

And many factory owners just wanted really cheap workers to come north - the slavers at least needed to keep their "property" alive and functional, a manufacturer always has workers in dire need of money lined up, so that little he cares for their wellbeing. Whereas the southrons frequently fought not for the slavery, but for the sovereignty of their own states - the right to choose whether to be in a union or break apart from it. Take Robert Edwardee, for example. He was personally against slavery, and yet commanded the Confederate forces, having refused such command over the Union. USA is a union of states, not a state divided into administrative regions, isn't it

[@chico9805]

​@@witoldtadeuszVery true, it's all about personal interests. There were some who geniunely cared, but for most, there were and always are ulterior motives.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

​@@witoldtadeuszThe part where they fought for the independence of the states is pure hogwash. Richmond is just as overbearing as Washington and Georgia was vocal enough to say how much "states' rights" eventually means nothing. I mean read the Confederate Constitution: states are not allowed to free any slaves inside their own state borders, ever nor are they allowed to secede from the Confederacy. The US Constitution didn't say they could do that or couldn't do that...

[@spiffygonzales5160]

​@@Ninja1Ninja2 Honestly the anti neo confeds are worse than the neo confeds these days. Like seriously how many neo confeds do you ACTUALLY see these days? Now compare it to the number of people who say stuff in the vein of "Shermans march should have killed more people".

[@wikiuser92]

I've heard this very wise phrase on the internet: "Politics and religion should serve the people instead of telling people to hate."

[@jamesboswell1804]

They are what they attract

[@Cacowninja]

Politics was never meant to serve people. It's just the running of a ruling class under supposed legitimacy. As for religion that can go in a number of ways.

[@wikiuser92]

@@Cacowninja You may think so, but there are many politicians who selflessly want to help the people who chose them.

[@Cacowninja]

@@wikiuser92Then why do they choose a profession that is inherently involuntary? I mean politics is forced on people. It's force. You don't get to choose whether anyone rules over you or not, and you most certainly don't get to choose whether to pay the taxes they charge or not. If you want to help people choose something other than being a politician that actually helps people. Agorism is the absence of a ruling class which there are many video on youtube to learn about it.

[@wikiuser92]

@@Cacowninja Believe it or not, there are many politicians who actively seek to become politicians to change the world for the better.

[@AynenMakino]

The point you ended on, of never trusting a politician who tells you to hate another group, the world really needs you to keep hammering that point home. We as a global culture still don't recognize these politicians for what they are early enough. Education on their playbook has a long way to go. But you guys are very good teachers, imho. So I hope you'll keep at it! 💚

[@ThinksFarToMuch]

Even though this is a tragic story, I still lost it from laughter at the part where The NY Times has gatling guns 😂

[@martylund8411]

It was an age where Lincoln sent federal agents to beat up reporters in the North, imprison them without trial, and forcibly deport US citizens to Canada if they something critical of him they wrote in the paper got him angry. You'd better believe newspaper men were as strapped as they could be.

[@GaldirEonai]

Around that time Richard Gatling was still trying to get his guns adopted by the Union military so they'd probably have been in there for publicity purposes, allowing for drawings and detailed descriptions to be made (along with possibly some photographs for later reference). Fun fact: Mr. Gatling believed his invention would _reduce_ the lethality of war. Didn't quite work out that way, did it...

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

​@@GaldirEonaiAnd the funny thing about Dr. Gatling is that he lived just long enough to make what would become the Minigun by 1895 (essentially attaching an electric motor to an 1873 model Gatling)...

[@warkijiji4474]

You don’t need to pick a man’s pockets to get his money, give him someone to look down upon and it will fall right out

[@bluejay4214]

Oh man I remember seeing this interpreted in the Gangs of New York movie. It was absolutely horrifying.

[@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401]

Famous scene about the riots of New York

[@user-xq5og9lt8p]

It's truly frightetning how easy it is to appeal to the crowd's "we are better then them" feel

[@jesseberg3271]

Crowds are as intelligent as their least intelligent member. The same is true of their restraint, morality, and compassion.

[@user-xq5og9lt8p]

​@@jesseberg3271correction: as their least intelligent member's cognition divided by the number of members

[@Game_Hero]

deeply ingrained human psychology, tribalism is. Might have been useful for litteral tribes in the Stone Age, but not anymore.

[@neighbor-j-4737]

​@@Game_Hero You are still affected by it, and have not in any way risen above it, or evolved past it, you just know it by other names and means. But you have always been, and will always be, tribal.

[@Game_Hero]

@@neighbor-j-4737 Never said I didn't, but self-awareness is a first step at limiting its effects.

[@Kellen_Quigley]

My great-great-great-grandfather was one of the Irish Catholics in New York who was paid $300 by a rich person to fight in their place. He was shot in the cheek during battle and the bullet passed right through so for the rest of his life he had a deep scar on the side of his face. My great-grandfather apparently remembered sitting on his lap as a small boy and putting his hand on and in the scar and thought it was the coolest thing. Thank you so much for doing this video, it was super fascinating!

[@HardCodedGaming]

Whether it's 2023 or 1863, don't listen to people at the buffet about how to get your table scraps.

[@korstmahler]

When someone tells you to hate, at all, you should resist them.

[@evanbunch1612]

HISTORY TIME

[@germanfisch]

This is when extra history said "its history time!" And historied all over the place

[@zacharydavis8197]

Hold up, why did the New York Times have gating gun? I want to know more about that!

[@thevoxofreason8468]

I was surprised when "Gangs of New York" essentially ended showing the start of the riots. Upon first seeing the film, I had no idea it was even going to touch on the subject. You're vid has made me want to go watch it again.

[@yanluoanthony6868]

Might I also add that the Catholic Church in america was also divided when it came to the civil war. The pope didn’t approve of slavery nor recognize the confederacy but some Catholics and even clergy owned slaves. Like most of the civil war it wasn’t just brothers against brothers it’s Church against church.

[@clipobserver]

This wouldn't be the only time, Pope Francis supported people taking the COVID vaccine but a good number of Catholics refused.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks for all your hardwork and dedication guys! Your content always makes me more imformed and fills me with joy!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

[@john.harrison]

3 words in and i already can tell this is one of the sad episodes

[@johnp5250]

History doesn't repeat But it definently rhymes

[@E.b.c_drum]

One of my reltives captain myles keogh came from ireland and fought in the papel states. He then came to America to fight in the cival war as a captain. He fought at Gettysburg, the second battle of bull run, and a huge list of others and later died at custers last stand. Hes got a wiki page so look him up if you have the time.

[@RedWizrobe]

Oh, boy! Time to systematically shread my faith in humanity again! EDIT: Yep, called it. 200 years later and basically nothing changed. All I can do is remember this line from Don't Be a Sucker: "We human beings are not born with prejudices. Always they are made for us. Made by someone who wants something. Remember that when you hear this kind of talk; somebody's going to get something out of it, and it isn't going to be you."

[@MathGPT]

We are born with brains, brains discriminate and seek out patterns. It’s this process that gets exploited. We are also at fault

[@tonysoprano..-]

Don't Be a Sucker was such a superb little piece, immediately thought of it on hearing Matt's final line

[@ASpaceOstrich]

@@MathGPT Mm. This myth that we're all born pure and clean and only taught to be prejudiced falls apart as soon as you realise that the people who teach it also had to learn it from somewhere. It's an incorrect belief that people hold so that they can tell themselves that they could never be prejudiced like this. Everyone is born prejudiced and has to learn not to be, usually by exposure to varied groups and people. Its why people that are well traveled and have met many different types of people generally tend to be less prejudiced, while those from small, non diverse communities who haven't interacted much with the rest of the world generally tend to be more prejudiced.

[@neighbor-j-4737]

​@@ASpaceOstrich Yes and No. Yes, people exposed to a broad spectrum of cultures tend to have a less xenophobic nature. No, I don't necessarily think babies are born to hate anyone in particular inherently. They are sans motive. People are tribal, and US versus THEM is a fairly natural theme, but can be quickly overcome by change in scenery. I never fully understood racism clearly, until I had lunch years ago with my newly arrived Romanian friend. He went on and on about the 'fuggin Hungarians' for hours. Being from a small town in the midwest, I had never met any Hungarians in my life, and had barely heard the word, let alone understood the distinction. But in that moment, I grasped hatred for your neighbor, competition for resources, and how bias is manufactured, not inherently ingrained. It is almost comical to think about. And to any Magyari reading this, thank you for helping me understand the world better...

[@Canhistoryismylife]

It’s interesting to see the role of capital in dictating who had to fight. We hide it much more successfully now of course.

[@kaltaron1284]

Nowadays it's usually just knowing a sympathatic (or worse corrupt) doctor. If your country even still has drafts.

[@Whattabatt]

"bone spurs"

[@abcdef27669]

Episode starts with people with torches, going to an orphanage. Oh, no. Oh, hell, no!

[@harrison6082]

1:19 It's really surprising how often people think a war will be short. Ukraine, Vietnam, ww1, and the American civil war

[@trinefanmel]

Wow. Just wow. So happy I found this channel otherwise I might never have come across these parts of history. The final message of this video is really important and I wish more people would hear it and learn from it. Thanks for all the work you do!

[@srdjan455]

If you want to feel better after watching this video then just rewatch the scene in "gangs of new york" where the mob is gunned down

[@cdcastro7986]

You guys gotta make a series about Tammany Hall and Tweed.

[@NevsTechBits]

Thanks for the great content Extra Credits! Every week you top me up with info. You guys rule. Please keep going!!!

[@jesseberg3271]

A contemporary critic of New York mayor Fernando Wood referred to him as having a walk which was straight and true when he was in front of the people, but "slantindicular" when he was not. Or, to put it another way, he was crooked.

[@redacted229]

“Babe wake up, Extra history made another video”

[@GallowglassVT]

Gangs of New York was the first I'd heard of the Draft Riots, but looking into the actual records of the events... yikes, is all I can say.

[@TheIrishvolunteer]

I feel such a sorrow at learning of the crimes my countrymen committed against the African American community and those people who went against such a moral evil like slavery during these riots. I don’t know how such an event went unmentioned during my schooling.

[@beaglaoich4418]

It unfortunately is a thing in humans to be tribalistic. I would say there is a lot of guilt to be placed at the structure of their society for the depraved conditions many of these people were left in, probably the children of famine survivors. The country they went to gave them the worst work and also expected them to fight in a war they probably didnt understand outside the context of this will mean more competition for work-if you survive unscathed from battle and disease. And as is mentioned the people that would send them to war don’t even go themselves and were probably much more noticeable given the large absences of working and middle class soldiers. None of this is to excuse them but to say they were a horrible outcome of a brutal system

[@generalsmite7167]

I really happy to see all these more specific episodes on the civil war as it’s really interesting. I would you to see stuff on the start of the civil war with the election of Lincoln.

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

Yeah, everyone thinks it all started with Fort Sumter, but in reality Confederate troops were seizing federal armories all over the south for months beforehand. They were getting ready for war.

[@mebrychi6504]

I love all of your civil war era vids

[@philtkaswahl2124]

Unfortunately the tactics still work because for the most part people, especially extremely disaffected ones, dislike complexity. And "it's all the fault of these people Not Like You" is all too simple.

[@FakeBlocks]

Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!

[@MariaVosa]

Your videos are always excellent. This one however. This one was next level. Powerful and poignant. 💔❤

[@sharkside8]

What a coincidence, my US History class is currently talking about the Civil War.

[@jonnunn4196]

This early? When I was in high school and college they would not even reach the election of 1860 until around Thanksgiving. At that time the first US History course ended with Reconstruction and the second started with post Civil War western expansion.

[@sharkside8]

@@jonnunn4196 It’s probably because of these two things. We go to different schools, or things changed over time.

[@stalinnotballen7592]

got to love a little bit of Extra History

[@Al-Is-Gaming]

My ancestors came to America in 1849 and settled in Missouri. The blood bath that it was

[@apachewolfscornerofthestag3579]

SVP you are just Awesome brother!!

[@bionicpun862]

@extrahistory at 7:25 you say "On january 16th troops returned from the battle of Gettysburg..." I'm pretty sure you mean 'JULY 16th' and that you still had January on the brain from pointing out when the emancipation proclamation was announced.

[@animationfanatic2133]

NY times editor, "so anyway I just started blasting

[@tarawalker7193]

Thank you for this channel, from the entirety of my heart!

[@anderskorsback4104]

It's an oversimplification to say that the Democrats at the time were pro-slavery. The Democratic Party had itself had a major schism between Northern and Southern Democrats during the events leading up to the war. Northern Democrats weren't pro-slavery per se, but they were largely pro states' rights, so were opposed to federal interference with slavery. During the war, Northern Democrats themselves were split between pro-war and anti-war. Preserving the support of pro-war democrats was important for the Lincoln administration, which led it to take actions that compromised the war effort, such as appointing prominent pro-war Democrats to high positions of military command that they were poorly suited for.

[@dastemplar9681]

They pressured Lincoln in 1864 to reverse Emancipation. That says enough on where they stood. Democrats by majority were very much for slavery, even moderates with the whole “states rights” argument (which SUCKS btw).

[@cautionfn1292]

needed this for history class thank you🙏🏽

[@amyherman7063]

Looks amazing, I have always loved this show.

[@benjaminmatheny6683]

I would argue that the Confederate draft exemptions were slightly worse than the Union ones, as the Confederate exemptions applied for free to the wealthy class. i.e. It didn't cost them anything to avoid the draft. At least the Union draft dodgers had to pay something.

[@jorenbosmans8065]

I love this one. I first learned about these riots from the comics "blue coats" (or what was the name of the union troops). I'm happy to get more info😊

[@bolokollo5767]

„les tuniques bleues“ or in english „the blue coats“ have a very detailed Comic about this event. Even the Gatling Guns from the NY Times are mentioned. It’s worth giving it a look.

[@jmanj3917]

8:45 Take a look at the current political landscape if you need an example of this.

[@michaelbarnes5223]

It's always wild to me when I study the ACW, that the Irish immigrants of NYC could so fiercely defend the union (see the Irish Brigade) while threatening to bring the city to secede itself.

[@Game_Hero]

the duality of man

[@beaglaoich4418]

Wasn’t it the archbishop of New York that threatened to turn the city into another Moscow if churches were attacked by nativists

[@AdriLeemput]

It always bothers me when people say Lincoln freed the slaves with the Emancipation Declaration, because it is just not true. The Declaration is only applicable on territory not controlled/governed by the union.

[@tylersmith3139]

Yeah because northern states had already abolished slavery. That's why the term slave state/ free state exists.

[@baneofbanes]

And that was the vast majority of the slave population.

[@AdriLeemput]

@@baneofbanes yes true, but besides the point. It's easy to pas a law banning slavery for a territory that you have no jurisdiction over. Would have been better if he would have done it for the entire territory the USA claimed jurisdiction over, and not only the part they did not control.

[@baneofbanes]

@@AdriLeemput except he didn’t have the power to do that. Have you ever actually studied the war?

[@AdriLeemput]

@@baneofbanes Yes, and he also did not have the power to abolish slavery in a territory he does not control. Again: the law excluded all territory that was under control of the Union for abolishing slavery. I'm not saying it is a bad thing, I am just pointing out that it was not abolishing slavery in the United States, only in the states that were rebelling against the Union.

[@skyden24195]

Cannot give enough praise for the relative comparisons between the way back when and the very recent ago.

[@nyxsolice]

For anyone who is interested in this topic and also likes theater Paradise Square is a lovely musical about some of these events. It has other plots mixed in but the build up to the characters and their respective groups becoming enemies is very well written and worth the watch if you can!

[@jeremy1860]

I've been opposed to the idea of forcing people to fight in wars all my life. Ever since I learned of what happened to conscientious objectors here in the UK in World War One 😟

[@MathGPT]

Well you’re gonna have a hard time reading history because basically it’s all wars

[@jeremy1860]

@@MathGPT You're not wrong. Every period, in every place, has its dark side, and as someone who has spent his entire life loving and learning history, it's a legitimately difficult thing to reconcile. The fascinating and the horrific, all in equal measure 😟

[@MatthewCobalt]

​@@MathGPTYou know that it's a specialization, right?

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

Its pretty sad that a lot of European nations are interested in bringing back limited selective service systems in order to combat other mass conscription-based possible enemies.(IE, Russia). You'd think we'd be past that in this day and age, but hey at least it isn't full-on conscription, right?

[@23tovarm5]

@@kostakatsoulis2922well I mean we see how Russia is handling that (very, very poorly)

[@josephfioretti6851]

He uploaded 🗣🔥

[@gustavocarvalholoboleite3526]

Hey history credits what you think about make a video about the los angeles riots of 1992?

[@Domesthenes]

I would love for you guys to do a series on the 54th Massachusetts Infantry.

[@-jeff-]

Some who learn from the past work hard to make sure it IS repeated.

[@mannyfernandez1713]

If history has taught me something is that any war you think will end quickly, will simply drag on

[@burninghard]

Marginalized groups fighting each other to distract from the fact the upper class takes up all of teh resources? That sounds pretty familiar doesn´t it?

[@05Matz]

Almost surprisingly relatable.

[@misterwheatley1386]

Good giy

[@That1J1]

Could you imagine coming home from the battle of Gettysburg, having just turned the tide of the war for the abolition of slavery, and then having to turn your gun towards your own city thanks to some rich people trying to get richer?

[@rasheed7934]

They weren't fighting to end slavery. Stop the lie.

[@danomyte67]

@@rasheed7934 it resulted in the end of slavery. So who’s the liar?

[@edits7034]

Imagine being a solider for the Union and going off to fight in the biggest bloodiest and most grueling battle fought in American history. Surviving that, then coming back to deal with a bunch of rowdy Irish lunatics. Those guys must of been pooped and they had just seen the worst side of humanity from all angles 😢

[@beaglaoich4418]

I would just say that the shitty situation for the people that were sympathetic to the riots really should be appreciated that they had been whipped up into a frenzy of fear and panic by people exploiting their desperate situation for political gain. These were the children of a cataclysmic famine whose reward for reaching adulthood was more destitution and a brutal war, which they had been led to believe would mean more competition for what little work they could get. None of this is to excuse the horrendous acts, but to say that the situation was created and sustained by an elite that happily played the tensions of desperate people against one another for gain. It’s the thing colonial empires did with rival tribes that more modern states do with the poor and disenfranchised

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

I remember learning about this on hs. As apart of the civil rights lesson plan

[@EricTheKei]

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

[@sebastiantrummer8838]

7:23 - I seriously doubt any troops returned from the Battle of Gettysburg on JANUARY 16

[@flyingsquirrell6953]

Erm…

[@lagieboyfontanilla3073]

Hey Extra History KZbin channel, It would be good if you made a series of the Philippine Revolution. Im a Filipino fan of yours so if you made a series about it, it would be great. Sincerely, Filipino Viewers

[@ronaanwer7161]

I am early to my favorite channel for once, and congrats on 1b views ❤🎉🎉❤

[@UtahSustainGardening]

Thank you!

[@dextercochran4916]

I can feel that ESG score going up from here. Good job, Stooges!

[@beaglaoich4418]

Stooges how?

[@adumbkidwithengines5949]

“Politicians tell people to hate other people” you said it well, almost every politician in office today and the past couple of years keep doing exactly that, because a country that is divided is much more easy to control than one that is together. History just repeats and more suffer from it 😕.

[@Ranlac_the_Black]

That orphanage story really is new to me.

[@alekseishkurin4590]

Very timely episode!

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

How so? What has happened in US that’s similar? I am not American

[@alekseishkurin4590]

@@sarasamaletdin4574 I'm talking more about global events :)

[@beaglaoich4418]

@@sarasamaletdin4574​​⁠Dublin had anti immigration riots to our shame a month nearly to the day after this was released

[@bertbaker7067]

There's only one war, class war.

[@ZAK31591]

Imagine slugging it out at Gettysburg for three days and coming home to this. No wonder they opened fire.

[@barbiquearea]

The Emancipation Proclamation wasn't well received by the army when it was implemented. A lot of Union soldiers weren't down with the idea of fighting to free slaves, while troops from South Illonois came close to mutiny and had to be threatened not to desert.

[@Studdblog]

Excellent choice of subject matter

[@stoopifz]

Wow, we were equally pathetic back then

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

Tbf we haven't had a draft in 50 years, so there's been at least some progress.

[@chico9805]

​@@kostakatsoulis2922The only reason why the draft hasn't returned is because it would collapse our fragile society.

[@OptimusWombat]

@@kostakatsoulis2922 I think he was referring more to the blatant political manipulation by pitting one group against another. It still happens today.

[@OptimusWombat]

@@chico9805 and the rich can still find ways to avoid it.

[@TheCreepypro]

very nice EH! a lot of other channels would have missed the point of what made these riots tragic but not this fine channel! I just hope the message sinks in for many!

[@05Matz]

Grim history, but something we acutely need to be aware of today.

[@thatreddude8796]

Discussing the racism not just of the South during the Civil War, but the North, is something that I feel goes overlooked when discussing the war and its impact on modern society

[@commandercorl1544]

6:08 What is it with post offices and putting up a good fight against a larger, better armed enemy?

[@stevencoles2583]

Largely unpunished 67 saw the inside of a courthouse none received significant jail time sound familiar? Privilege 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@YourKingJDG]

Just like always, their criminals go unpunished to do the same thing over and over, spreading their evil seed.

[@nanni-buyerofcopper]

You need to do a series on the civil war overall

[@slevinchannel7589]

Racism was covered epicly by 'Some More News', even if we cont count the criticically acclaimed Thanksgiving-Video

[@kayeka4123]

Funny thing is, I imagine that the 300 dollars probably was more useful to the war effort than another warm body would have been. Allowing the rich to buy themselves out of the draft was probably just an easy way to gain funds without having to actually raise taxes on anyone "important".

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

"Warm bodies" and money are needed to win the war. It cannot be "or"...

[@stevencooper4422]

Yeah but people dislike risking their own precious life while another risks some dollars, even if it was half their fortune there would be resentment.

[@animalia5554]

Especially before the income tax existed

[@lucky_lynx7867]

Could you do some more WW1 videos?

[@dreadkalibur1613]

Gangs of New York movie, i believe, was based on this event?

[@generalsmite7167]

I wonder if they will ever do a lo long series on the civil war with all the short episodes on it

[@jonnunn4196]

It's more probable that they'll do several short series on various aspects of it that aren't well covered in most books. Like this one, which the first time I heard was all of one sentence with the bare fact that draft riots in New York caused some militia units that were at Gettysburg to be deployed to NYC and a few other northern cities.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

@jonnunn4196 They have had tons of US Civil War/related series voted on patreon, they have just lost. For example Gettysburg, Siege of Petersburg, Grant, Lincoln death, Andrew Jonsson, Harriet Tubman, Confederacy trials. And others I forget. Either most patrons are Americans who think their period is over covered in their history books, or not Americans who think US is over covered in general lol. I think only long series voted on patreon about US are Articles of Confederation, Teddy Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor (and pandemic one was mostly US). So maybe it’s the later. This channel keeps having tons of shorts about US however. I think there should be one Civil War series at least one day, like with all important topics.

[@pixelpixiepal6847]

My partner has always lived by a very important rule, If someone wants me to hate someone/something, why? Who benefits from this?

[@richeybaumann1755]

That's a very good general rule. There are very, very few people who do things for reasons that won't benefit them in some way, especially those in power. If the Fuhrer tells you to hate Jews and Communists, what does he gain from that? If the person in charge tells you to hate everyone who disagrees with you... well, that's still applicable today, and we're seeing the consequences in real time.

[@threaruscamuwundra7417]

I watched Gangs of New York last week and before that movie never heard about this (being non american). So crazy that this video pops up

[@8bitmclaren]

"It's a rich man's war, a poor man's fight"

[@user-es6ru3sc9y]

History repeating itself