THE DUNFERMLINE MONSTER (Ross Taggart)

[@Zreyta]

I cannot believe that there's no law against a murderer still getting what their victim gave them in their will. That's insane.

[@kimi14118]

US common law has this. Look up slayer rule for inheritance

[@nkosazanadweba7306]

South Africa has it (bloedige hand).

[@idek7438]

English law prevents this

[@lisarosehill6858]

scottish law does actually have a rule against it, its called the unworthy heir rule.

[@sophiehyde1429]

we only have precedent for it as far as i’m aware as judges have used the mischief rule in order to interpret what parliament would’ve wanted in the past with the case of R v White. so i have no idea

[@emmalinereid3343]

Ross is a monster. This really shows you how abuse can be present in any kind of relationship. Rest In Peace Carol.

[@alicerivierre]

Yeah, both Ross Taggart & Daniel Bartlam were gross for treating their mothers like that. Such bastards!

[@jasondean3991]

PSA better help is not a good organization and not something you should trust. Please do research before you sign up to this organization

[@coffeefox5703]

@@alicerivierre Daniel shouldn't even be compared to Ross, considering Daniel grew out of it. Ross didn't. They aren't nearly on the same level and I can't fathom why you would lump them in the same boat. Heck, it was mentioned that Daniel specifically went back to being his normal self and eventually left to find his own way due to Ross's antics. How are they anywhere near the same?

[@alicerivierre]

@@coffeefox5703 dude, Daniel, showed no remorse during his trial, he killed his own mother, & he was sentenced to life imprisonment w. a minimum of I think 16 years. I heard that $#¡+ from Eleanor a few months ago - I heard every single $#¡+ from it. & him growing out of it? Are you kidding? That guy would absolutely kill again if he gets out. The step-dad said so, he said his own concerns for himself, for Daniel's lil bro., & perhaps society. Go watch/listen to the video dude. I'm not making stuff up. There's no way in hell that someone so sadistic @ a young age could change. Daniel is a monster to society, & that's that.

[@joannakneafsey1964]

Poor Carol 💔💔💔

[@KFA8piece]

An abusive murderer should NEVER get to keep the possessions of the person they manipulated and abused mentally, psychologically, and emotionally for decades (which heavily influenced the events leading up to the will revisal) before going on to murder that person. It’s like taking out a life insurance policy on someone days before you murder them for the money.

[@alicerivierre]

I know. There should be laws against this. This is just not fair; it's gross & beyond disgusting.

[@kimi14118]

US common law does not allow a person to inherit property from a person they murder

[@keepitreal5941]

I agree but the Scottish government only have to respond to petitions that reach a certain number on the Scottish parliament petition website. Having the petition on the change website may not help. The family can't afford the £25,000 legal fees to get the inheritance. And in the meantime the properties are not being maintained and are accruing huge unpaid fees. Ross has profited from this and learnt nothing. He will potentially pick up where he left off when he gets out.

[@CrimeQueen333]

I agree . I think they should change the laws for situations as this !!! He shouldn’t get to keep a damn thing !!! Also she may have changed it on her own , but she also changed it during her time of being manipulated to the fullest ! I bet she would of changed it if she wasn’t killed considering she was finally putting her foot down and seeing what he was actually doing and finding out everything he was lying to her about !!!

[@noodlesandsprite7052]

as people have noted in part 1, I think they had a strange relationship it was borderline emotional incest due to the intimacy of their relationship. the isolation, control, and abuse was horrific to hear about and even though carol pushed through all this she should’ve left no one deserves treatment like that especially not from their own child

[@shelbypower983]

I'm glad people are bringing attention to the sponsors and how questionable they are. Eleanor wont know if she is not informed. Great work on the video Eleanor.

[@thilsiktonix]

god, the second I saw this comment I knew who sponsored it, that shit is that bad.

[@mmmml2546]

It's literally one of the first things that comes up when you search up b3tter h3lp, she will know, its almost impossible to miss and she was deleting comments abt it

[@kieshabrown9274]

@@mmmml2546 what's wrong with it

[@mmmml2546]

@@kieshabrown9274 scamming people and don’t treat their staff very well

[@lexivanclarke6247]

@@kieshabrown9274 and they share client information with third parties so that they can use ads to manipulate you based on the fact they know that specific client is mentally unstable!! So bad

[@anashec]

The fact she treated him so well and he still managed to do this horrible thing (ESPECIALLY TO HIS OWN MOTHER WHO GAVE HIM NOTHING BUT THE WORLD) shows how cruel this world really is! RIP carol ❤

[@AxxLAfriku]

ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear ana

[@sheffieldamanda]

She didn't give him boundaries unfortunately 😕

[@emptysekai]

she treated him too well which is exactly why he turned out like this. literally watched him beat the shit out of her daughter and did nothing, she was a pretty bad mother

[@anashec]

@@emptysekai I agree 100%

[@HobieInTheBox]

She didn't treat him well, she smothered and coddled him. She created this monster

[@elleofmusic]

this story is a fascinating study in nature vs nurture. The older brother snapped out of his funk and straighted up on his own, but with as bad as Ross got, it's hard to imagine that anything could've steered him back on track. To think that poor Carol's helpless love for her son created the monster that killed her… No one could have anticipated that, at least not for a very long time. Parenting is a terrifying tightrope walk.

[@icingcake]

Seriously? Just letting him abuse his sister is a tightrope walk and not a glaring red flag 🤦‍♀️?

[@TheMakendi]

So weird how the older brother just disappeared completely tho, does he even know that his mother is dead ?

[@VeginMatt]

No one could have anticipated that her enabling her son to steal would lead him to lose his jobs. No one could anticipate that her not listening to her partner that her son was growing into a monster would make him want to leave. No one could anticipate that a late teenage/adult guy attacking his sister would commit violence against his family. Such an unforseen event.

[@icingcake]

@@VeginMatt Give me a break - what do you think is going to happen when you teach your kid that bad behavior has no negative consequences 🤦‍♀️? Keep living in denial lol

[@Pbness]

@@icingcake That was sarcasm, honey.

[@angelicasvensson5011]

this is just so infuriating, the fact that even though ross literally *murdered* his own mother he still gets to keep everything she owns just because carol changed her will because of course she didn’t think her OWN SON would murder her.

[@GizaByrd]

Under English law he wouldn't be able to inherit as he'd be benefiting from his crime, but I guess the law must be different in Scotland?🤔🤷‍♀️

[@georgia_mccx]

@@GizaByrd it is, Scotland go by Civil law like the majority of Europe, but England go by Common Law

[@ananyaneralla5382]

I hope his siblings and Shaun challenge the will and squeeze every last penny from his pathetic azz.

[@LauraGrrrr5370]

oh well perhaps an accident will befall him in prison

[@ananyaneralla5382]

@@LauraGrrrr5370 yeah god forbid he drops his soap, slips on it and breaks his neck BY ACCIDENT🤞👀🤞(pls do)

[@areum8473]

I sometimes think if you name your videos “part one of… and part two of…” it’ll be way easier for me and maybe others to figure it out lol. You’re great and thank you for taking the time to talk about important cases❤️

[@rudolph-754]

She knows that, but she does it to milk the extra views. While I absolutely fucking hate it because I've realized that I've seen part 2s without even knowing there was a part 1, I still think it's kinda genius. I still hate it... but I respect her hustle lol 😆

[@maryredfearn5143]

This would help SO MUCH 😭

[@octmarrs1738]

she always says at the beginning of the video if its a two parter or the second part of a case

[@Afatgrandma]

@@octmarrs1738 doesn't help as much as labels would. Especially if the videos have wildly different titles

[@missybowsy4825]

That’s what I’ve been saying for years 🤦🏾‍♀️ that be so much easier fr I love her but it’s getting old

[@jessicaphillips3084]

Hey Eleanor, I love your channel! I did want to clarify something. The reason a person stops bleeding when they die is because the heart is no longer pumping and is not pushing the blood out! Hope this helps!

[@Erinybop]

Yep, so your blood pumping around keeps it thin, when it stops moving, it starts to clot. Same with when it hits air, it cools down and stops moving so that’s how cuts on our body stop bleeding :)

[@user-nz9nf9ug2q]

Clotting also plays a part though.

[@a.m4520]

I'll just outright say it, Carol wasn't a good mother. She was an enabler. Literally let Ross beat up Lorraine and didn't help her at all. But she didn't deserve to die.

[@destinygatez7068]

If any of my children did this to my other children (my step kids or blood). The attacker would be in jail. I’m so mad she didn’t make Ross responsible for his actions. Awful mom.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@TejubescDM Agreed. Tbh it’s her fault and Ross’. The older brother was treated the same way as he was, and he turned out fine. Ross took advantage of Carol, but she enabled it anyways. I just feel so bad for Lorraine. The poor thing suffered through so much BS it’s unreal. Screw Ross. I hope he gets what’s coming to him one day.

[@jessicaa4436]

Didn’t she have depression tho, it could have been a side effect of that like a hyper fixation on Ross

[@a.m4520]

@@jessicaa4436 MDD doesn't cause people to idly stand by while their daughter is being brutally beat up. I would know because I have had MDD. Also, hyper fixation isn't a symptom of MDD, rather it's the opposite - the loss of interest or pleasure in most or all normal activities. Her hyper fixation on Ross again was due to her thinking that Ross was feeling unloved and that's why he would act up. If Ross had stopped his aggressive behaviours early on, just like his older brother, then Carol wouldn't have focused on spoiling him. Although, MDD can be an explanation for some of her actions, it is in no way shape or form an excuse.

[@jessicaa4436]

@@a.m4520 I’m really sorry you went through that and I’m hoping you’re feeling a lot better now ❤️ but I have studied it in university and it is still a possibility that she could have been fixated on Ross’s wellbeing and connected it to her own and so she was apprehensive to stop him and Lorraine. I’m in no way excusing it tho bc poor Lorraine will be suffering for life bc of her mums favouritism towards Ross

[@basicsims3037]

Ross really hurt his mother and the fact that he did this to her really shows how heartless he was

[@Ajisaiiii]

@@yena829 no

[@skiddadle8245]

@@yena829 no

[@vii6en]

She enabled him, for all of his life. She was a terrible parent but I can recognize that she did not deserve to lose her life.

[@thekendrashow]

Is* but I agree.

[@basicsims3037]

@@vii6en i agree and i really hope he rots even if he was raised that way. this woman was very sick and he used her as if she was worth nothing

[@anacrea3931]

Todays sponsor has some concerning aspects to their practice. You may want to watch Mickey Atkins, who is a LCSW and practicing therapist, video on why she declined a BH sponsorship. She goes over the concerning privacy elements, treatment of their contracted therapists by the company, some of their misleading advertisement claims, and more. As well, I've seen people saying comments against them are disappearing on multiple different videos from different channels where they are the sponsor, and in one case I've seen a content creator say they were not deleting the comments and were unsure where they were going or why. If true, that also concerns me. Good video besides that though :)

[@RowanWarren78]

Yes, the comments were deleted on a Mr.Ballen video sponsored by BH.

[@ScrewgeMcF_ck]

@@RowanWarren78 The bad part is, I don’t even think it’s the content creators deleting comments. With YTs comment guidelines, if you go into too much detail (even mentioning PTSD sometimes gets my comments deleted) it’ll delete the comment for being “inappropriate”. It also wouldn’t surprise me AT ALL if BH has a hand in deleting negative comments calling them out. It makes sense that people would still use them as sponsors if they don’t know the issue. I remember when Cody Ko called them out a couple years ago… that video is gone. I believe Kurtis Conner called them out as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mickey’s video goes down eventually too.

[@lesliehankins3916]

If you are looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@ioanamanuela]

I've left a comment on another creator's page related to BH saying that I know of a content creator that apologized to his community after he got the sponsorship from them saying they're gonna be more careful who he associates with from then on, and someone replied to me asking who was it. I'm not giving any other details, all I'm saying is: this is the third time I see a sponsorship from BH and there are a lot of negative comments about them.

[@maddieclark9381]

Commenting to boost

[@queenbee23225]

Hey Eleanor! I'm a big fan but I just wanted to let you know there are a LOT of big issues with BetterHelp! I would suggest looking up some videos a bunch of other therapists have discussed about it! Just wanted to let you know! :)

[@_lexi]

do you have any recommendations of who to watch in regards to tharapists discussing it?

[@queenbee23225]

@@_lexi kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJivhHial66HbNE I personally found this video the most informative!

[@_lexi]

@@queenbee23225 THANK YOU!

[@ambriaashley3383]

@@_lexi Mickey Atkins (licensed social worker & therapist) has a great video on it!

[@thilsiktonix]

Mickey Atkins did indeed make a fantastic video on it. She's great, I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that video.

[@Maya-dw5jz]

This is why discipline is so important in a child life. They need to understand and know that they cannot act this way. It's unfortunate how this turned out. Carol enabled his behaviour, and turned him into this monster. I work in a school and this student of mine misbehaves like hitting other students. They are 8 years old but when we discipline him and inform his mother she asks him what happened and immediately takes his side and sees no wrong but him 'self defence' despite us telling her he is the one who started it and was hitting them. From then on he just continued and his mother didn't do anything until we told her we will file a report to socials since there is a lack of discipline and his behaviour is getting worse. Ofc we had to inform safeguarding team on this. I fear that I turn Inti this type of mother.

[@oren1305]

Not just discipline, boundaries and proper discussion of mental health and grief. Ross was babied the way he was, because he was a little boy who lost his dad, and his mother didn't know how to handle it, so she parented out of guilt. You won't turn out like Carol and Ross, if you remember how important it is for a child to have balance and stability, even during hard times.

[@yulikethis4173]

In the US we have something called the “slayer rule.” If you cause the intentional and malicious death of someone, you don’t inherit. Also can’t be executor.

[@virginiasmith7203]

Correct! Thank goodness we have that rule of law..Hard to believe the UK doesn't. Another part of the rule is that the murderer cannot profit in any way from his/her bad acts, so no book deals or movie deals for the murderer.

[@idek7438]

@@virginiasmith7203 English law does, evidently Scottish law doesn't

[@lawyerinred4293]

@@idek7438 from what I understand Scots law does have this concept. He can’t benefit from his crime but there is a hole in the law which means that he can still be the administrator of the will, which is what is stops his sister from going into the house to get her things

[@lissaprieto3247]

i learned about this from watching Knives Out

[@jayesimond9301]

Yes. The idea of this legislation (in US) is to prevent convicted murderers from benefiting financially from their crime.

[@abiA5]

I just wanted to say how much your videos mean to me. I'm disabled and mainly bed bound, and your videos give me an escape, and allow me to follow my interest into true crime. You make a big difference. You're great at telling the story, while also humanising the person, and giving details into their lives. Thank you for all that you do and for doing it in a respectful and dignified way.

[@alicerivierre]

Ditto, Eleanor, ditto. 😘♥️

[@Rose-jz6sx]

I've been bedbound for brief periods before, it fucking sucks I'm sorry you're living that, sending warm pain free and nausea free vibes ❤️ Danielle Kristy is another excellent and really respectful true crime youtuber if you don't already know her.

[@happy2197]

So glad you’ve got this outlet. I hope you are managing to stay happy :) watch mr ballen too if you don’t already!

[@A_Ducky]

Same here, disabled & mostly immobile. Just want to thank you for saying this so eloquently, and that I completely agree with every word. Hug!

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

How unbelievably sad for this family. In the USA there is a law called the "Forfeiture Rule." This rule prevents a person who is convicted of killing another from inheriting any of the said deceased's estate. This needs to be pushed in the UK.

[@joyousbloom731]

How has it ever been allowed in the first place? Crazy.

[@bronniem5884]

New Zealand also introduced the Succession (Homicide) Act 2007 so murderers would not benefit from the death of their victim.

[@janetpendlebury6808]

It is also the same in England, but Scottish law is different.

[@gloriachildress4638]

Alot of KZbinr's have dropped Better Help partnerships because it came out that the "professionals" wasn't actually professionals. I know you don't mean harm and I love your channel but alot of people have been called out for partnering with them. You may want to look into it. Even Bailey Sarian cut off her partnership with them.

[@Shiba_Draws]

I have a feeling maybe she has dropped them after this, I dont remember seeing her having any more partnerships with them in recent videos Edit: and the same with that established titles thing,she hasn't partnered with them ever since people commented its a scam

[@charlottehancock76]

I tried using them and despite advertising messages as an option my matched therapist refused to let me use the text function even though it was the only safe way i could talk about my issues with someone. Better help is a bunch of bollocks

[@lelu810]

This is the type of parent I fear to not turn into, so blinded by love for my child that I don't set them right and wear rose tinted glasses. Rip Carol Hope other such parents can learn from this and be fair to all children and call them out when they do anything wrong.

[@tinkitinks982]

Honestly, Carol ignored her two other kids because of Ross. These things leave a life-long mark on children. I hope both of them are doing well today.

[@kalebem0]

i was thinking the same thing. lorraine is the biggest victim in this whole story

[@p0myq]

@@kalebem0 Lorraine owns a dance school in Dunfermline:)

[@AmyMcdonaldd]

@@p0myqaw i live in dunfermline! , where abouts is her dance studio?

[@p0myq]

@@AmyMcdonaldd it’s just outside Dunfermline, its in blairhall

[@hyacinthus818]

I finished part 1 earlier today, seeing part two get put up so fast made my day 😭 I can’t imagine the pain this poor woman must have gone through.

[@alicerivierre]

Yeah, manipulation doesn't play in my book - can't stand myself & others being manipulated over money & power. Doesn't fly w. me @ all. God rest the poor lady 😇♥️😇♥️

[@HaNguyen-yy7ke]

@@alicerivierre i too hope she rests in peace, but unfortunately she was the one who let his unacceptable behavior grow. she let him do ANYTHING with no consequences, didnt teach him any boundaries. As much as i feel hurt for her death, she still created a monster

[@alicerivierre]

@@HaNguyen-yy7ke true, very true things could have ended differently...

[@lovelylina1659]

Same

[@ZooTycoon2witchdoc1]

same!

[@senatorpalpabean2638]

Isn't betterhelp the site known for its scandals and having non-licensed therapists posing as therapists?

[@Elioka]

Yeah, it’s also rumoured that they sell the private chat logs of your “therapy”

[@genoswest7253]

yeah i really wish she did her research :^(

[@Alyse_bell]

Yes it’s really dodgy.

[@blacknoir4131]

I have used therapists outside Betterhelp and currently a therapist in Betterhelp. The fact is, some therapist are good and some are terrible regardless if you use Betterhelp or not. It is on you to do your research and leave the therapist if they aren't any good. I think people who have never had a therapist before may be blaming BetterHelp for their bad experience when the reality is the therapist is the one to blame. It isn't easy to find a good fit. It's also sad, that so many therapist exist but so few have compassion and actually help. As for the "scamming" portion, I personally hadn't had an issue and hope to not have one. You pay for a month up front and you pick the day you can meet with the counselor. Once that session is over, you pick the next session. Eleanor said she used it, and there are KZbinrs that have used it and had good experiences but dropped the sponsorship because people complained. It's possible her experience is like mine, which is good. As for the cost, the pay is cheap compared to a therapist from a private practice, I'm guessing that's why they get paid so little. In regards to data mining, I don't know about this and only hope that they aren't selling incredibly serious or personal information. Regardless, if you haven't used it and can't attest to the experience, then you don't know if the rumors are people airing their grievances because they're pissed about their experience or if the actual company is legitimately bad. I'm sure they need to improve but I think people need to do more research first.

[@NativeWarrior88]

Yes, I believe you're right.

[@gra-emed3617]

I knew this guy from school. Always a very strange guy. I remember myself and a group of friends bumped in to him in town when we were out for drinks at the time she had gone missing and of course we later found out what happened. Sends shivers down my spine. The house just sits empty which is very eerie.

[@HannahElise]

I have never signed a petition SO fast

[@jewelxiat]

SAME. I wish I had people to share this with but they wouldn’t understand and wouldn’t care for the context either :”)

[@Alejojojo6]

Imagine having a human being growing inside of you for 9 months, deliver it in childbirth, raise it and love it for 30 year for it to end up killing you... Incredible and frightenening. SO sick.

[@HiHi-xn5yd]

Don’t forget that she enabled him to become the monster that ended up killing her.

[@Alejojojo6]

@@HiHi-xn5yd She spoiled him out of love. Overprotecting him thinking he was good not wanting to see the red flags, putting them down.... But he wasnt a good person he was a monster using his moms affection to his benefit. She did not want to see it. I dont blame her. No one wants to believe the son they love so much is a bad person. Also, I am spoiled by my mother lol, who isnt? Moms are moms... But that doesnt make us cold blooded killers.

[@jaesiraki84]

@@Alejojojo6 Exactly. You get it. 💓

[@k.stacey7389]

In love? That wasn’t love, she carefully cultivated the monster he became. Giving your kids every and anything they want is the opposite of “love”.

[@Alejojojo6]

@@k.stacey7389 No its not. People who love their kids may give them what they want because of love, they may spoil them. Its bad parenting, of course, but it doesnt change the fact that the primary motivation behind that is love, not wanting to deprive your kids of anything to make them happy.

[@PandaRollz]

Just signed the petition, it's wonderful to see how many others went over to also sign it. This monster does not deserve anything, especially from the woman he murdered. My heart breaks for the family, they're not even allowed to collect any assets that hold sentimental meaning and memories. I hope this petition will cause a change, the family and others in a similar situation rightfully deserve it 🙏

[@MG-ru5pi]

I’ve heard many youtubers speaking about how they’ve dropped Better Help due to their negligent services and extremely bad reviews. Update: This Is Monsters was one of * the KZbinrs who’s spoken out about this. One person who commented on his post shared that she was told by her Better Help therapist that “her depression could only be solved by medication and if she chooses to go down the path of no medication then she’ll just end up killing herself.” A few other people shared that their therapist gets switched often. Another that the therapist could be from Norway (for example) while they are in the US. To me, these are valid reviews and I advise caution.

[@alicerivierre]

I'm telling ya, dude, what negligence & $#¡+ from some people...always lending a helping hand & saying few words of kindness & wisdom. @ least that's my take on it. I feel you

[@bridget663]

@@alicerivierre She's being paid to tell us she uses a service for therapy. How do I know she is not lying and why would I want to use a service that pays people to tell me how great they are for my *mental health*?? There are reasons for the controversies. Think about how unethical it is.

[@Not_An_EV]

@@bridget663 But why is it Eleanor's fault? Why is it not youtubes for accepting Better Help as a sponsor company? They're the ones that make it so better help can sponsor youtubers rather than just paying their content creators. Eleanor is just doing what she has too in order for her to get that bag and carry on making content that we all enjoy.

[@bridget663]

@@Not_An_EV She literally does research for a living. Or is she strictly a storyteller? It's negligent to not do research on such a serious topic for a sponsor. Personal responsibility. Please.

[@bridget663]

@@Not_An_EV It's not ethical to try to sell me therapy. She was paid. This was an ad. I am to believe her experience even though she did NO research for a sponsor? Think about it. :(

[@greenwitch9836]

Watching this on 17 Feb 2024. Just googled the case and a new law was enacted early Feb 2024 to prevent murderers from being executors of their victims estate. It is reported that Lorraine is seeking legal opinion on her brother's removal from executorship. Wishing her good luck! This 2 parter was extraordinary and I love your presentation and knowledge about cases without just reading a script. Good work!

[@danielledawson926]

Better help are awful, took my money then kept cancelling, ended up even more depressed and ended up leaving. Daylight robbery, please don’t sponsor again, it could harm somone

[@emmadgrnd701]

In Belgium there is a law that you can no longer inherit from someone you have killed... never thought it could be otherwise. That must be terrible. I hope they find justice.

[@incredibleedibledez]

Oof who wants to tell her about better help being a scam?! The fact that they can sell your EXTREMELY personal info, including the transcripts/logs of your "therapy" sessions with whomever they choose is kind of fucked up. Need to vet your sponsors better.... Stay away from better help....

[@sweetpotato6429]

Wait, I knew about their scammy nature and unlicensed therapists, but I had no idea about the personal info selling part… That’s messed up.

[@yuki97kira]

If its free... Most likely youre the product... I heard of it being a scam.. And i.. Who couldnt afford theraphy had been contemplating of having it before Also no liscence teraphy is in a sense dangerous. Had one in 7cups and it made me worse that day

[@crowwithrights]

They also have a word limit for each day of therapy, so you are restricted to the word limit too

[@TheSystem.Co9]

I mean sounds like she did vet them because she’s been using them for 4-5 months and said it was helping her so I mean it sounds like she vet them the very best way you can doesn’t mean they don’t do this stuff

[@lebohangmalakoane]

I can’t imagine the pain and guilt she felt during her last moments when she realised that she created a monster 💔

[@CuriousMuse2224]

Very sad case; it’s looking like to me that because Carol enabled Ross’ bad behaviour, this resulted in him turning into a narcissist. Maybe he already had psychopathic tendencies but the lack of discipline and present enabling, gave him more power to fuel his greed/selfishness.

[@SilentiumLitwicks]

absolutely grueling case and yet people still don’t believe children can abuse their parents

[@Penguinstudios123]

Think it’s coz people see how she didn’t help him or raise him properly whilst growing up and that’s all they can see. They don’t see that it was STILL up to him REGARDLESS of upbringing. You are the only one who can make your decisions for you. Things can be explained, not excused

[@ShaneRichard2029]

better help is a terrible plateform with shady practices, i really don't think you should associate with them...

[@Idk_1145]

💰💰💰

[@karend8122]

@@Idk_1145 that explains it all

[@lesliehankins3916]

If you are looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@ShaneRichard2029]

it particularly irks me because... she seems to do so much research on the cases she covers, going into so much detail... surely she could do the same with her sponsors, it isn't that hard to find how better help is no good

[@bridget663]

@@ShaneRichard2029 Makes me wonder how much research she actually does for her videos. 🤷🏼‍♀️ She's a storyteller. Not a researcher.

[@TheInfernoSky]

Hey Eleanor, as a heads up, be careful who you sponsor. Better Help is known to be a terrible company that has been in many controversies with one being the terrible "staff" of how they deal with people who want to unalive themselves.

[@Idk_1145]

She has a sponsor on every video ofc shes going to take anything she can get. But I agree with you otherwise^

[@dezdovalina]

Really hoping Eleanor drops this sponsor

[@Not_An_EV]

@@Idk_1145 see this^ she always has sponsors. She's doing what she has too in order to get that bag because youtube aren't quick to pay her. Why are people putting the blame on her and mot YT for creating the problem that she is trying to solve by getting BH as a sponsor.

[@lesliehankins3916]

If you are looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@TheInfernoSky]

@@Not_An_EV so ur saying she should be a sell out to get the bag? Ok, good to know ur one of those people who think falsely advertising your fans is ok

[@megannaughton116]

Such a crazy case, I love my son all the world but he will always be disciplined for bad behaviour. You do no good allowing children to get away with everything.

[@GenXfrom75]

Yep. I've got four sons. I will never help them escape the consequences of their actions.

[@alicerivierre]

Yeah, she ought to have shown some backbone in parenting, but Carol just simply couldn't. Not to completely $#¡+ on her or anything, b/c I know she was struggling w. some mental issues, but for any other people, one has to have the courage to parent & discipline their children. Also, being manipulated by your own child just pisses me off.

[@etgha]

Relief to hear people say that honestly, failing to discipline a child and failing to teach them good and bad behaviour for your own convenience and guilt will only ever poorly affect the child's development

[@etgha]

@@yena829 what tf is this

[@A-nt1lc]

I signed the petition immediately, that is just disgusting. Thank you for all you do Eleanor, educating us on horrible cases and bringing awareness to such injustices in our own court system. Love you so so much

[@Rachelle78]

Signed, donated and shared the petition, thanks to you Eleanor I wasn't even aware of this case but hopefully with your help in raising awareness the family may have a chance at easing some of their pain xxx

[@Nellynkosi03]

In South Africa placing your hand bag in the boot is not strange. There is something called smash and grab, basically criminals break your window and grab what ever they can see in the car. It's usually done at stop signs, robots and traffic jams to drivers traveling alone. Placing everything out of sight is common to avoid this from happening

[@Lionwoman]

Afaik in EEUU also happens.

[@lauren9004]

Yea that wasn’t weird to me either and I’m British

[@skittlekitty7264]

Just to clarify by robot you mean traffic light?

[@barbaracilliers6843]

@@skittlekitty7264 yes that is correct. 😁

[@barbaracilliers6843]

So true in south africa. Dont even drive and have your phone in sight. It will be grabbed

[@LustStarrr]

Please reconsider taking a sponsorship from BetterHelp - Mickey Atkins' channel has a video explaining the issues with it from a therapist's perspective.

[@lesliehankins3916]

Agreed. If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@Lethal-30]

Therapists are garbage

[@rabotnik4480]

I'm Brazilian and here we have a law against people that are beneficiary in testament and will. If you're found guilty for your parents murder you're not allowed to get any access to inheritance.I'm really shocked that UK's law is silent about this issue.

[@janetpendlebury6808]

There is a law against it under English law, but Scottish law still allows it.

[@eleece123]

I was quite shocked... in Portugal if a child kills their parents, they will never get their hands on that inheritance... it makes me sad to think that after all he's done, he will still be rewarded with everything his mother fought hard to afford.

[@janetpendlebury6808]

@@eleece123 Lets hope the law changes soon in Scotland, before he gets out.

[@minxrewinks6371]

I remember when all the big KZbinrs were adamant about how they were revoking their support of BH, going down a list of reasons they regretted accepting their sponsorships and putting disclaimers in all the videos they mentioned them.

[@fibrofreak79]

I was at school with Ross and Lorraine and never knew Carol was their Mum until today. I do remember hearing when they found her on the local news. My heart breaks for Lorraine. RIP Carol. X

[@poppyameiIa]

hey eleanor, i hope you wouldn’t mind reassessing your decision to partner with better help? the company was outed a few years ago as being a scam that didn’t offer any genuine, certified help. plenty of youtubers have made videos on the topic and the reviews for it are awful, i’d just hate for anyone to fall victim to them from this video.

[@bridget663]

If you use the words "better help" together, your comment doesn't appear. She's aware and it is SO GROSS. She's being paid to promote a company for therapy. This is so unethical.

[@hettfield009]

My thought exactly when I saw who the sponsor is 😬

[@Loki-bl5ex]

Same... they have been sponsoring a lot of big youtubers since the start of this year. They *should* research their sponsors

[@sophiaj9554]

big agree

[@UndeadSoldierHU]

They harvest and sell your data too, including private conversations with the therapist

[@autumn612]

Please reconsider working with better help in the future, they are not what they seem. On another note, thank you for getting out part two so quickly! You are looking fabulous 🥳

[@meganmartha4]

Lol she doesn't care, there's a reason most of these videos are 2 or 3 parters (with a fresh sponsor and ads each video) these days.

[@Idk_1145]

@@meganmartha4 Frrrrr she has a sponsor on every video i love her vids but I think her intentions are just set on money. (Like most new true crime ppl)

[@autumn612]

@@Idk_1145 Of course it’s mostly about money. This is her job and KZbin doesn’t monetise true crime channels anymore. I don’t mind her having sponsors on every video if they aren’t garbage companies because she makes good content. Do you expect her to put all of this work in to entertain you at a cost to herself just because you don’t seem to value content creation as a legitimate job?

[@meganmartha4]

@@autumn612 I'm paying more for yt premium than I pay for netflix and hulu, so I don't feel the need to see constant sponsors on each 2 part video (which could really have been one video). I'm allowed to comment on this, too. Fwiw, I've been following eleanor since about 50k subs, I've always recommended her to my likeminded friends, but feel her recent lack of posting schedule and clickbaiting thumbnails will eventually leave her as a small fish in an extremely competitive pond.

[@ananyaneralla5382]

@@meganmartha4 You paying for yt premium gives you ad-free videos. Which Eleanor's videos already are because she is a true crime channel!! And TC videos get demonetized because of the violence and intensityof the crimes. Only way they get the money doing this is through sponsors! And Eleanor is not the only TC creator getting sponsors. Most TC channels have sponsors. If it bothers you so much, you can choose not to watch her videos. 🙂

[@STA-1597]

I’ve heard bad things about BetterHelp

[@lesliehankins3916]

AGREED!!! If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@MistySophie]

How the hell someone who murdered a person for their will, is still legally can have all this stuff and control it from inside the prison? I don't think people like him can have any rights outside of the walls of the prison

[@thaistowell4993]

As always the video is beautifully put together, very informative and respectful. Her promotion for the petition at the end was very kind and it's now almost reached its goal, showing the kind community she has and the amount of effort she puts in for the families of the victims. I hope some good can come of this tragedy. With all of this being said, does anyone know if Eleanor has made an update or a post acknowledging that she won't work with betterhelp again/now knows what they do? I love her informative content and how respectful she generally is, she is easily one of my favorite creators. That being said, I don't know if I feel comfortable watching a KZbinr ignore the warnings from their fans and continuing to sponsor betterhelp even after being made aware of their scamming and profiting off of selling people's personal/Healthcare info. Usually when something like this happens in her content she will post and pin a comment or tweet apologizing/acknowledging she messed up and then doesn't make that mistake again but it's been a while and I still can't find any kind of update :(

[@samih5916]

I can't believe that Ross Taggart still owns the house and is in Carroll's will, even after he's exposed as his mother's murderer. I can't wait to hear and see his reaction and face when the rules get changed. Also this case kind of reminds me of the Gonzales Family Murders case that happened in Sydney, Australia back in 2001 and I hope Eleanor covers that case.

[@BloomingMeadowsCo.]

Amen ! I

[@faithelson]

The one Bailey just covered😏

[@samih5916]

@@faithelson could you send the link to it?

[@faithelson]

@@samih5916 my bad I meant Hailey Elizabeth

[@faithelson]

@@samih5916 too deep in the murder side of youtube i get them mixed up hehe

[@edwardcullan6917]

i love eleanor so so much but it’s so sad to see her jump on the better help train when they have so publicly failled to meet the claims they make or even uphold a reasonable standard of professionalism. it’s just such a sensitive area because while an unreliable/shitty company that makes beauty products can certainly make victims of its customers,, betterhelp is doing it to mentally ill people actively trying to get better by making empty promises and then avoiding responsibility. it’s just so so obvious how much consideration goes into every video and how much she cares but it’s so sad to see not even half the effort go into the things you’re promoting to your audience

[@Phobbie19]

I hope she doesn't get sponsored by them again, they're not a good company.

[@ambriaashley3383]

Yes I agree!!! My jaw dropped when I see saw accepted their sponsorship 😩 they are awful & take advantage of a lot of vulnerable people

[@hannah.kate.]

That’s exactly what happened to me, when I was younger I reached out for help and got told essentially there was nothing they could do and no support they could give despite that was what they were supposedly offering to others, it was heartbreaking at the time because the mental health system in the UK is notoriously bad and there was nowhere else I could go - honestly no shade whatsoever to Eleanor because she probably didn’t know, but it’s not a good company and I wouldn’t recommend it at all

[@fillinggaps1975]

​@hannahgilbert5737 BH is not appropriate for every consumer. And they've come a long way in clarifying their policies.

[@fillinggaps1975]

Oh, boy.

[@WouldntWeather]

Isn’t BetterHelp a scam organization? ...There was that whole controversy with Phillip Defranco

[@lesliehankins3916]

And others… If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@bridget663]

Bailey has already gone through this exact thing with BH and quietly deleted the sponsored part of one of her videos lol. How did this happen again? How much research do these creators actually do for their videos if they can't do the bare minimum of vetting sponsors? I have so many questions about how this keeps happening lol.

[@sarahmorley7751]

@@bridget663 she can't help not knowing especially if she used them herself

[@lilbicch7480]

Eleanor,as many have pointed out,todays sponsor is incredibly dangerous to promote. they're a horrible and unqualified company and should never be endorsed

[@KoboldPip]

She knows. She was deleting comments about it when the video aired and a little bit of homework before accepting would of made her aware. As long as she gets a quick buck she couldn't give a rats arse.

[@fillinggaps1975]

This is an ignorant statement.

[@lilbicch7480]

@@fillinggaps1975 it's really not

[@moniquebayliss9134]

I have now watched every single true crime video Eleanore has made - a bittersweet moment but her videos always make my days that much better. Thank you!

[@hannahtaylor2912]

SO grateful for your hard work and dedication to this channel Eleanor! Just checked to see if you posted and bam! ❤️

[@alicerivierre]

She should give herself a pat on the back. Luv u, Eleanor 😘♥️

[@jodiehooper5168]

Took her awhile tho considering she normally uploads every other day

[@adrijavalaityte6292]

You are indeed amazing Eleanor!!!♥️

[@sheilarough236]

Is it weird that I love to soak in the tub and listen to Eleanor talk about various true crime stories? Very relaxing after a 12 hour shift at the hospital

[@nicmck5958]

I listen to her to unwind at night. Find her voice so soothing. Xxxxx

[@ImperfectionGuaranteed]

Hmm?!

[@LizBeardmore]

i do the same thing ☺️

[@ThePrincePluto]

Oh no, better help is actually a pretty bad company.

[@lesliehankins3916]

AGREED!!! If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@kirstywhyte3496]

This is so close to me - happened just up the road. I do remember the interviews with Shawn. He had taken Ross is as his own and was just devastated. Lorraine's interviews as well. And yet they had to fight, despite Ross being found guilty, to deal with Carol's estate because he was executor. I think that is where the difference came in - you cannot benefit from a crime but he was still the executor so in charge. I spoke with Carol about putting my daughter into her childminding service but in the end chose one closer to my place of work. Nothing to suggest something as horrible was about to happen

[@ironwomanforever]

This case hits so close to home. Ross is pure evil. It's heartbreaking and frustrating that the family cannot access the house. I have signed and shared the petition.

[@neo_moa]

I love how Eleanor makes sure she posts part 2s before the week ends❤

[@alicerivierre]

I know, she's getting great with consistency! Kudos, Girl!

[@larisa9643]

Just signed the petition ❣️ Go sign everyone!!!! Justice to her family. Rest in peace Carol.

[@miacantrell5723]

To me the only victim is Loraine, I can't imagine how badly this was on her. She got stuck in life with the worst mother, and a terrible brother. It sucks Carol is dead, but you reap what you sow, and when you raise your kid to entitled, you are also to blame for what they do believing they're untouchable.

[@VeginMatt]

I feel sorry for the older brother too. But yes, Lorraine didnt deserve to have Carol and Ross as "family".

[@anjy9077]

?????"It sucks Carol is dead" um what 💀how to unread something honestly. He was a spoiled brat from the start and he turned into a bad person all by himself. Carol was blind to see it later but she was his mother ffs 💀He was 20 and still co dependent on his mother he was just fucked up all on his own. Even if she was the worst mom ever how is murder what she deserved. ew

[@coffeefox5703]

@@anjy9077 Uh, no he wasn't. Ross was said to be a normal child before his biological father died. To say Ross just became a spoiled brat out of nowhere is disingenuous. Parents do play a large role in how their children turn out, especially since what makes someone "themself" is the experiences they gain through life. Ross wasn't always a "co dependent abuser" - he was a child early on. Yet Carol never disciplined him, gave him everything he wanted, stood up to her husband when Ross was committing LITERAL crime, let him avoid responsibility and lie time and time again, and to top it off she stood by and did nothing as Ross beat her daughter. What sort of message do you think that sends to a child? That tells them that they are in charge, they have the power, they can do whatever they please, violence was acceptable, and they are better than those around them. Why would it matter that Carol was his mother? To Ross, he was clearly being sent the message that she held no power and that he could do whatever he wanted. His behavior seems to fit that message pretty damn exactly. Ross may have been the one who ultimately made the decisions he did, but Carol played a large role in how he turned out. To deny that is to claim that parenting is worthless and means nothing in regards to a child's development. This should be a tragic yet cautionary tale if anything. Carol's murder is tragic and very sad but could have likely been prevented if different choices were made early on. Ross could have become a functioning, or at the very least - non-criminal, member of society if he was given proper discipline and punishment for his actions as a child. Before his "spoiledness" became genuine, intentional abuse... and eventually, evil. We were all spoiled brats as children, and for me personally? Discipline and having a sense of right and wrong instilled in me from my parents is what made me who I am today. That's not uncommon. Parenting matters. There is a reason certain years of a child's life is called their developmental years. What happens during that time can shape who they are greatly.

[@angleslikeyou537]

@@anjy9077 you completely missed everything they were trying to say.

[@anjy9077]

@@angleslikeyou537 I literally didn't

[@natalieporter4948]

I actually know this family personally and was out at Christmas with him and I always said to folk that there was something not right he was fine and wasn't acting sad his mum ws missing lapping up the attention and free drinks he was getting its a pure shame aswel his sister is a lovely lass sad sad story thank u for covering this story great job xxx

[@ronswasonbutcuter4474]

Hey Eleanor! I know this video is older and a lot of other people have said it already but I really wanted to stress that better help is a dangerously irresponsible organization, and I really hope you'll reconsider promoting them

[@obbleonthewobble7194]

Hi Eleanor! I've been subscribed to your channel for quite a few years now and I thoroughly enjoy each and every one of your videos... I usually enjoy your sponsors too however, not this one. I know I'm not the first to comment this but please reconsider having Better Help as a sponsor. I won't go into too much detail because a lot of people on the comments already have but they are a scam and do not offer the professional help that they claim to. I enjoy your channel and your content and it would devestate me and many others here too if you continue your partnership with them. Please don't continue to promote them and their abysmal and shady services. It can damage people who don't know better. I've seen comments here from people who are excited to use Better Help because you've mentioned it now and that's terrible knowing how they truly are. I say this as an avid supporter of your channel, not to hate on you in any way. I hope you see this and reconsider, as with many other comments here. Thank you. EDIT - It's concerning to me that Eleanor doesn't seem to have acknowledged this situation with BH at all. I simply can't support a channel that promotes them. It doesn't sit right with me. Sorry Eleanor. :(

[@lesliehankins3916]

To anyone reading this, if you are looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@graciedore7644]

I feel deeply for the other children. This entire case is heartbreaking

[@deno9607]

Whenever a youtuber mentions better help I cringe. It's embarassing.

[@lesliehankins3916]

Yeah I’ve been trying to comment to help raise awareness about this company, but it won’t let me anymore :(

[@curtainsan5976]

Agreed

[@mowganashwey]

Yep!

[@courtneypaige1324]

Just signed and shared the petition, actually disgusting this whole case. That law needs to be scrapped right now.

[@salaad_aisha019]

I still can't understand why. When he's had every single thing; her affection, her money, her work, and literally HER all for himself and he still managed to do that to his OWN mother. My heart goes to Carole and her family, I can't believe people like this even exist. Disgusting truly.

[@MalonsMilk]

He was the king of the world in his mind. A god. He had this slave working for him, providing for him and worshipping him. It only makes sense that if the little woman didn’t do what he wanted he could also end her life.

[@bernices9923]

In South Africa we have the "bloody hand" law. If you murder someone you can not inherit anything from them. Regardless of what their will says

[@christinac2652]

Came very close to paying for BH off the back of this video. Thank goodness I saw the comments

[@bridget663]

Thank goodness you read more. 😭 This is why the upset comments are SO upset!

[@christinac2652]

@@bridget663 I also read that certain words have been blocked in this comment section? Is that not proof that she's aware there's an issue?

[@bridget663]

@@christinac2652 I don't know how it works entirely on her end. I DO know you can filter out certain words so the comments don't appear. For instance if someone wants to remain anonymous, they would enter their full name so they can't be found out. Or if you have specific insecurities about your "elephant ears", you can literally make that phrase never appear in the comments. So, yes, she could very well be blocking the name of the company intentionally.

[@lesliehankins3916]

So glad the comments made a difference!! I’m posting this wherever I can to raise awareness.

[@lesliehankins3916]

If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@1stepcl0ser]

imagine giving everything to your child and them treating you like that, and strangle you to death... and doing all that other horrible stuff to her... carol realising what ross was about to do... poor family, poor carol.... rest in peace, carol!

[@jenniferpallant235]

Just wanted to say a huge thank you, I have covid quite badly and as much as I can't watch the videos I can listen to them quietly and it's the only thing that's letting me rest from the pain. So thank you so much Eleanor x

[@vinazorab8375]

i hope you get well soon! 🤎

[@jenniferpallant235]

Thank you, at least the migraine has stopped now. Just the normal covid aches and pains.

[@vinazorab8375]

@@jenniferpallant235 oh my God the migraine was the worst. I had it all throughout and I couldn't do anything. Even looking at a light bulb hurt

[@jenniferpallant235]

@@vinazorab8375 I had literally just got over one from my meds being shifted and then 2 days after the pain was bearable i got covid and was on my backside for 2 days, I'm day 3 now and tired and aches but the migraine shifted so that's helped a lot

[@vinazorab8375]

@@jenniferpallant235omg that sounds terrible. Stay hydrated!

[@jod1154]

It's amazing how far these videos spread, look at the signatures on the petition and a number directly quote this video

[@tehhotline4225]

Better Help has a pretty messed up past?

[@lesliehankins3916]

AGREED!!! If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@OzmaOfOzz]

I truly appreciate how Eleanore doesn't leave us waiting for days on end for second parts 🥺❤ hope youre feeling better , El! ❤🤗

[@cleoh666]

I love you Eleanor, but Better Help is unethical. Please, look into the terms and conditions.

[@bridget663]

Y'all are being too nice. 😭 Accepting money from a company you've never used to profit off of other people's mental illness is ALSO incredibly unethical! She mentioned she has been in therapy for years, not that she has ever used BH. :( I hate all of it.

[@lesliehankins3916]

AGREED!!! If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@s0phiej0]

The example of coercive control, domestic abuse and power/control in mother/son relationships. Thank you for sharing this story, so important to hear those names of lost ones and to prevent this happening again!

[@ImperfectionGuaranteed]

It is not as rare as people may believe.

[@preciousjohnson1433]

I just finished this today. Just wanted to update people that law was changed regarding killers being in charge of family members they murder. They passed it this year in February. It was all thanks to Carol's family continuing to campaign for change especially her daughter Lorraine.

[@barbaracast1182]

Bailey, Eleonor, and Danielle tell true crime stories so well ❤️❤️

[@mounib6209]

Kendall Rae and Mollie Westbrook too

[@nobody8328]

Yeah, but Bailey is going to have to wait.... I HAVE to finish this one first!

[@thabsilechamane3774]

And Mike from “That Chapter “

[@Jazmataz87]

Stephanie harlowe also

[@elizabethgreer27]

And brittany Vaughn. And Danelle Hallan. Christina Randall too 🥰

[@nadinekeating3255]

Even aside from the murder part, This mother and son relationship was just so extremely unhealthy. We have a woman who gave up her marriage because of her *ADULT SON!* She accepted that her other two children were pretty much ran out of the house because of her son... This woman was willing to LITERALLY give up every bit of happiness, freedom, and control of her own life.... for her *ADULT SON!* This is a man in his mid 30's who lives with his mother, financially depends on his mother, goes everywhere with her and basically has no meaningful, productive life outside of his mother. I'm NOT blaming his mother for her murder.. ofcourse not.. *THAT* was all Ross's fault. However... I DO believe she created the kind of man he turned out to be. She made him into an entitled, lazy man. Unfortunately, it took her 36 years to see what her son has become and what she gave up because of her son. By that time, the damage was done and it was just too late.

[@JustKrista50]

I agree.

[@elizabethgreer27]

Agree. Their relationship was creepy tbh. Makes me wonder if there was a sexual aspect/obsessed type of thing going on. Twisted case for sure and very sad. RIP Carol.

[@AaronMcLane-j7j]

She created a monster in a way

[@alicerivierre]

Yep, mother's & created a hell of a f*cking monster. RIP Carol; pox on Ross

[@didyallseethat499]

I was waiting for someone to say this!!!!

[@wine-aboutitshitsgigglesan1564]

Sometimes the person hurting you is also the only person who won't EVER leave you. As a victim who loses so many because abuser isolates you, this can be so oddly comforting..to know this person won't ever go away too. I wish she had gotten away once she got stronger. Best wishes to those missing her today. Thank you for doing this story.

[@3shannonRoss]

‘Better the devil you know’ 😞

[@caaitiemaac8196]

I’ve watched your videos religiously every day for months and didn’t know this case existed - it’s in my home town. I have signed and shared and hope the people in our community get reminded or educated on this case and sign the petition. Thanks for covering this case 💕

[@TheGreenFrog3]

It’s been 9 days😳is she okay…

[@bxii7967]

I don’t know if it’s the filtering system or what, but my comment critiquing your sponsor has been removed????

[@shavxox]

Mr Ballen had them as a sponsor too & he put out a statement saying it wasn't him that was deleting the comments

[@lesliehankins3916]

AGREED!!! I’m also trying to raise awareness and commenting whoever I can. If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@bxii7967]

@@shavxox Thanks for letting me know! I was second guessing if my approach was considered bullying, but maybe the company’s name is automatically banning comments

[@lesliehankins3916]

Thanks Eleanore for your tireless commitment to giving the victim a voice. Signing the petition now! To anyone else reading this, if you are looking into a company mentioned in this podcast for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@ashleymoney3284]

I have been following you for quite awhile now and I just have to tell you that you have made a beautiful transformation. From your earlier videos to now your story telling and quality just keep getting better. You look so vibrant, healthy and happy… keep shining Eleanor

[@Ally.eden_]

Ok, so many KZbinrs who have sponsored bits seem ingenuine but I love how open and honest you are about your experience with therapy.. My therapist just moved and I've been debating seeking another- I think I'll actually check out your link, which like, I never do on youtube. Thanks for your honesty and your videos!

[@r1ydontcare]

this story is so heartbreaking and i can't understand why the scottish government doesn't do anything. this horrendous person is literally killed his mother and he has all her belongings just because she was blinded with love for her son. that's horrible and unfair. why does the person who KILLED for inheritance have the right to keep it? i bet in some countries that is considered as deliberate murder for inheritance.

[@laurenjadedare2310]

I’ve just signed the petition and I can see the numbers rolling up in front of my eyes. I’m so glad all the viewers are signing this 💗

[@lindsey6421]

📢 SIGN THE PETITION LINKED IN THE DESCRIPTION 📢 I get sometimes people don’t make it all the way to the end of the video, but this petition is so important. I can’t imagine the pain of the families like it wasn’t bad enough. Also imagine being the victim, your killer takes your life and is SOMEHOW legally allowed to take your lives work and possessions.

[@alicerivierre]

Yeah, I signed it. I cannot believe that f*cking piece of $#¡+ still owns the property even after killing his mother, & getting incarcerated. That's bull$#¡+!

[@CrimeQueen333]

I signed the petition and shared it !!! Please , everyone share and sign and get this out to as many people as you can !!! There are over half signatures already on there so less than half to go !!! Sign and share for this family and get them some kind of peace in their life !!!! Rip to her and I hope Ross Rots in prison for doing this to his own mother ! She did not deserve this !!!! She may have helped created this monster , but that don’t mean she deserved to die because of it and her family don’t deserve to suffer more and not have anything of hers ! Please let’s get this petition signed and donate if you can as well !!!! Thanks Eleanor for another amazing case !!! Very well done ! Bravo !!!

[@stormieflower5969]

The petition only needs 1,000 MORE SIGNATURES! This is amazing guys it takes one seconds sign this petition and get this woman the justice she deserves beyond the grave

[@arthurkern6662]

i couldnt believe mine eyes when she said todays sponsor is betterhelp... did she completely miss that whole thing a couple years back LOL

[@ellienash7723]

What happened??

[@arthurkern6662]

@@ellienash7723 had to double check bc its been a while since this came out, but its basically just a bad service. their terms said that they cant promise licensed proffessionals, and the app isnt meant for "severe" mental illnesses so it isnt a real substitute for actual therapy.

[@evemitchell887]

hey eleanor i love ur content but betterhelp is not a good company, i really wish you researched the company before putting it out to your audience. therapy and mental health is so important but better help is not a good company.

[@lesliehankins3916]

AGREED!!! If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@amandaknoner6114]

What’s it with better help then? Are they selling info?

[@creepbee5889]

Eleanor, some commenters have pointed out the company you sponsored, Better Help, has did some shady shit practices to their users so i really hope you drop this company. Please.

[@mmmml2546]

She’s deleting comments about it. I really thought she was different I'm so disappointed :(

[@bekahchoi-3744]

this case was just heartbreaking. She gave him the world and he still killed her...rest in peace Carol

[@k.stacey7389]

She gave him nothing. She stole having a caring and responsible parent from him by catering to her own whims and making herself feel better by giving him whatever he wanted.

[@indiaxo0707]

This is such a sad case, it's hard to imagine that a son can kill his own mother. Ive signed the petition and sent it to everyone in my contacts, i hope this helps the grieving family ❤

[@Shreya-zt2ne]

it's disappointing to see you accept sponsorships from a problematic company and then blocking those words from ur comments section so no one can find the criticism. i was a long time subscriber but unfortunately i cannot support you anymore. please do better. thank you!

[@lesliehankins3916]

Adding on to help raise awareness. If anyone reading this is looking into this company for your own use, please please please do research first. Your mental health is of the utmost priority, especially in 2022, and should not be taken lightly.

[@Babe-jq2sy]

People are so over sensitive please do better thank you ? Have you heard your self what a joke