The Dutch SS (Germanic SS) - How Dutch Collaborators Clashed With One Another

During World War II in the Netherlands there existed different forms of Dutch collaboration. Most well known was the NSB (National Socialist Movement (Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging)) led by Anton Mussert. Within this movement there were different ideas. Mussert clashed with Henk Feldmeijer and Meinhoud Rost van Tonningen who believed the Netherlands should be absorbed in the German Third Reich. Therefore the Dutch SS (Nederlandsche SS) was created. It later became known as the Germanic SS. Men from this faction later fought as Waffen-SS volunteers on the Eastern Front or in the unit Landstorm Nederland. A fairly obscure story of WW2 in Holland.
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[@HistoryHustle]

WWII in the Netherlands (playlist): kzbin.info/aero/PL_bcNuRxKtpFqVkDAwQwskFibTbzaZ0sq

[@danielhammersley2869]

Aha! Lesson time with Prof. Stefan! *gets coffee, takes a seat* ...☕👍🧐😎

[@HistoryHustle]

Great 😎

[@danielhammersley2869]

@@HistoryHustle , I was aware of the different movements of the Dutch Nazi collaborators from following your prior series. Was wondering how that shook out by war's end. Thank you sir!

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@salsheikh4508]

Never realized the distinction. Great Episode.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks!

[@davidsmerkler]

Hi Stefan. I just want to congratulate you on your work. I think the detail, analysis and presentation is unparalelled on Internet. I have read a lot about WWII, but the information you provide is of incalculable worth. I wouldn't know where to find and read this information. Thank G-d all the Dutch Nazi leaders died or were executed at the end of WWII. I am going through all your videos. Fantasic work Stefan!

[@HistoryHustle]

Very nice to read your enthusiasm, David. Thanks!!

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

Never knew about this! Keep up the good work History Hustle!

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks!! :)

[@xvsj5833]

Excellent Research Stephon, Thank you for sharing your knowledge 💪

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks!! :)

[@jorish51]

Super kanaal! Ga vooral zo door, erg goede onderwerpen die veel te weinig besproken worden. Zeer belangrijk om dit soort zaken te vertellen. WIE DE GESCHIEDENIS NIET KENT BEGRIJPT HEDEN NOCH TOEKOMST!

[@HistoryHustle]

Dank voor je bericht, Joris!

[@mikewest5529]

Dang a mid week video!! And it’s some serious content!! Thank the gods!! Bam!! Time for a break!! Thanks in advance!

[@jurkoning224]

Always like to see this. Very well done! Lekker bezig Stefan!

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you!

[@bartomiejjanczak3803]

A very interesting topic indeed. Do you plan to cover the other Germanische-SS units too, like the Danish Schalburgkorpset? Fun fact, the Schalburg Corps unit is mentioned in a pretty good Danish movie Flammen og Citronen (Flame & Citron), starring Mads Mikkelsen. Greetings from Poland!

[@HistoryHustle]

Hope to cover more on Denmark in the future.

[@66kbm]

Great info, most new. Thank you.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@mikewest5529]

Awe man the best ending with the what’s happened to those guys at the end of the war. Puts all the pieces together!! Greatness every time!! I feel like a student during every lecture! You should do a test!!

[@HistoryHustle]

Haha, that would be cool. Thanks for your reply, as always.

[@t.jjohnson6317]

Its nice to hear about history from other countries .Thank-you

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks!

[@theodorossarafis7370]

Good subject i thought they got along. You prove that wrong. I never get bored with you. Good job

[@HistoryHustle]

Very nice to read, thanks!

[@jamesgibbs7872]

I enjoy your History presentations.

[@HistoryHustle]

Great to read, James. Thanks!

[@ednammansfield8553]

A very interesting video which I didn't know about, thank you for posting this

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks!

[@nickpapagiorgio5056]

Time for class with prof Stefan! I have my coffee and my eyes and ears are open for learning!!!! ☺️😁🤓

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks, Nick!

[@nickpapagiorgio5056]

@@HistoryHustle My pleasure prof. Stefan!

[@miguelbuisan2982]

Great video!

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@CA999]

I heard the scale of collaboration is something the occupied countries tend to downplay...

[@ericdpeerik3928]

Everyone was a collaborator in some way. Many of the resistance got the opportunity to sabotage by earning the trust of the nazis first. Those who didn't cooperate, never got access to anything interesting and more often than not went on transport to the camps

[@alswann2702]

@@ericdpeerik3928 That doesn't make them collaborators.

[@HistoryHustle]

During WW2 in the Netherlands around 5% was in the resistance and 10% collaborated. I covered Dutch collaboration quite a bit on this channel. Please check: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mILPd2OflpJ0eKM

[@eriperi7346]

Fascism and anti-semitism was common in all of Europe. Anti-communism was dominant in Europe, mainly in Catholic and Protestant countries. Those who took up arms against communism in 40-45 were "collaborators". Their younger brothers who did exactly the same 10 years later in Korea fighting communism too, were "heroes". Perception, nothing else.

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@eriperi7346 that ignores that many collaborators were doing it before anything re Soviet Union happened. Also how many ppl volunteered for Koreaq

[@tsar389]

Seems Factionalism was ripe on all sides of the conflict during WWII. For the allies you had the faction that wanted to severely punish Germany and those who believed Germany should be minorly punished. On the other side you had things like this and other Factions. Anyways great video as always Stefan

[@stevekaczynski3793]

The Germans may have encouraged factionalism - it stopped any individual collaborator group becoming too powerful. In France there was rivalry between various fascist groups, in the same way. Their uniformed members tended to wear blue shirts, with the shade of blue and the design of the shirt varying from group to group.

[@tsar389]

@@stevekaczynski3793 the Germans also suffered factionalism, you had Pragmatists vs Racialists.

[@caslinden1373]

Weer een mooie video man 👍

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks!!

[@davidraper5798]

Brief but interesting and I shall go back to that playlist.

[@HistoryHustle]

Great!

[@thanos_6.0]

I read that 120.000 Dutch citizens got prosecuted for collaboration, the biggest number in terms of percentage in western europe. Thats why I find collaboration in the Netherlands very interesting, which is why I love your videos about it

[@HistoryHustle]

High number indeed. Have to research it myself.

[@eriperi7346]

In Belgium 400.000 were prosecuted ! 40.000 were condemned, of which 3000 condemned to death. 242 were actually executed by the government, the last one as late as 1950. More than 100 more were murdered without a trial, by street mobs after the liberation. To this day the topic is undiscussable in Belgium. The only country in Europe unable to forgive these people and their families. Thousands still live in poverty today, because of what their greatgrandfathers did. A country that cannot deal with its past, is a country without future.

[@marcosffontes]

@@eriperi7346 The Belgian no are frenchian.......LOL LOL

[@Chriskros1984]

Awesome again !

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@sojnab1]

very interesting,any chance you do a piece on Sven Hassel?keep up the good work

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. Specific vids on authors are beyond the scope of this channel.

[@j.vonhavre1741]

@ 2:59 To the right is Gerard Mooyman, enlisted Dutchman and winner of the Knights Cross.

[@HistoryHustle]

Yes, more about him here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4PUY2uPjLlpmJo

[@j.vonhavre1741]

@@HistoryHustle Rubbish. Heroism in battle isn't determined by the morals of the government that sends you to war. Robert E. Lee is a good example.

[@TheSpritz0]

STEFAN- MUCH THANKS for this video, I always wanted a more in-depth look at the mysterious "W.A." and now you have brought that to KZbin!! P.S. Hopefully you can do an in-depth video on the French Collaborators (MILICE FRANCAIS) I know some of your videos touched on it but it is a subject worth of your attention!!

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. Actually the WA will get a stand alone episode in July somewhere. As for French collaborators. That sure is something for the future. Cannot tell when though.

[@TheSpritz0]

@@HistoryHustle MUCH THANKS BROTHER!!!!

[@JohnnoDordrecht]

Yes happy with this video

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@jamie7026]

Good video, thanks, You mist of the "Sponsoring Member`s of the Germanic SS" and they had there own badge based on the German Sponser`s badge being oval with the SS runic emblem, a swastika within an oval wreath and the letters B and L , All the badges were numbered and are very rare, But all in all a great job, keep it up

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing!

[@reefyyy]

goede video's! zeer leerzaam. Je uitspraak is ook verbeterd. Je moet alleen je uitspraak van "idea" verbeteren. check het op youtube of translator voor de uitspraak.

[@HistoryHustle]

Ok thanks 👍🏻

[@gibraltersteamboatco888]

Excellent as always.BZ I'll bet my mortgage, Feldmeijer has a fan club that still leaves flowers on his grave.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for replying! Hope to visit the grave myself to shoot a video one day, not with flowers of course.

[@thilgu]

He is buried close to my house. And you are correct. But there is not much to see here though. Small sand-stone made headstone. Burried in the same grave as his cousin on a quiet part of the cemetary. Don't share the news with the local progressive politicians who will have it removed and some rainbow-coloured monument installed.

[@gibraltersteamboatco888]

@@thilgu Thanks for the reply. And yes they do like to "update" to their own taste.

[@Diwana71]

Fantastic. We need to see this and share with our Dutch Brothers.

[@HistoryHustle]

Feel free.

[@thebunkerparodie6368]

will you cover the rivalry between the IJA and the IJN? I think it would be a interesting topic to cover

[@HistoryHustle]

Sure interesting, cannot tell when it'll be made.

[@zulubeatz1]

Very interesting and I would like to know more about the battles that these Dutch SS men fought in. I know some if them fought in Wiking.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching. As for battles, Please check: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGjQcnmHZsRrqac

[@thevoid5503]

I have been wondering for a while: would it be a good idea if the role played by the Nederlandse Spoorwegen (Dutch Railways - for foreigners) during the occupation (and particularly the moving of troops and the Holocaust) will get a separate video ? Also, perhaps, the role played by the PTT in facilitating German communication or the Dutch media in spreading propaganda ? Or, perhaps, the police ? Or, perhaps, the Dutch civilian administration and civil service on all levels of society ? Somehow, the role played by the various "services" that form the mechanism of an occupation doesn't always the receive the attention in general historiography that it should.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍 Interesting topic for the future. Can't tell when though.

[@thevoid5503]

@@HistoryHustle Cheers. Glad you like the ideas !

[@drewskij2175]

Can't speak to the Dutch involvement during the war as I haven't read much about it nor any first hand accounts. My grandmother on the other hand could and did about her occupation in France and her experience. As I grew older and showed my grand parents my love for history she started to offer her and my great grand mothers story of German occupation and the French who collaborated.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this.

[@DarthBigBen]

I find in fascinating that Himmler wanted to establish an SS colony in the Low Countries.

[@HistoryHustle]

It's interesting indeed.

[@spib65]

Very interesting, just asking, was Maarten Kuiper involved in all this?,..many thanks Stefan

[@HistoryHustle]

As far as I know Maarten Kuiper was both in the NSB and the SS.

[@spib65]

@@HistoryHustle He's sounds like a good idea for a bio, I know very little about him, and more about his appalling actions,..I've been recently looking into collaborators. and it seems like an interesting topic, again Stefan, keep up the great work!.

[@AudieHolland]

So the 'SS' collar tab on Rutger Hauer's uniform in th movie "Pastorale 1943" from 1978 is correct? I have seen many commenters say that they are not identical to the 'actual SS' but now I know why.

[@HistoryHustle]

Cannot say. Haven't seen the movie.

[@AudieHolland]

@@HistoryHustle Check out the final scene on YT "pastorale 1943"

[@Gustavogukpa]

Was there any brazilian influence in the Netherlands in WWII? A diplomat, maybe some important person in the political scene, an adventurer, anything?

[@ArnoutVI]

Thank you for sharing. I didn't knew this. You have the same divide in Belgium at least Flanders, between the VNV who was more or less for independance of Flanders or Dietsland. The DeVlag was more national-socialist and would like to annexes Flanders into the German Reich.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. I do talk briefly about what you said in my video about Flemish Waffen-SS volunteers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXKYf5WfeZKqjLM

[@jacodevnik9883]

My Grandfather told me about this, he was in the NSB and was for a union between Flanders & the Netherlands, he said the Germans banned all talk of "Dietsland" once they invaded and told all NSB/VNV who were often in contact with each other to accept the new rules or face punishment, all talk of a Flemish-Dutch Union (a Greater Natherlands) was banned! Btw. I used to live in Aalst, I love Flanders and will move back to Flanders soon, I have many old friends there :D

[@chuxxsss]

Could you help me? I am looking into my Dutch Grandfather, now I am Australian and was adopted. He life in Elst and Ulft, but there are no records of him. Could you tell me his regiment please.

[@HistoryHustle]

Sorry, can't help you.

[@rogerdarthwell5393]

Blimey, they fought between each other as well!

[@rickglorie]

Relation ship status: Complicated 😁

[@rogerdarthwell5393]

@@rickglorie Yeah, yeah it was

[@rogerdarthwell5393]

True

[@HistoryHustle]

Indeed, internal fighting.

[@jacodevnik9883]

My Grandfather, was in the NSB, I am 54, but wanted a union of the Dutch speaking nations, basically a union of NL & FL. He and his wife, my grandmother who was also in the NSB didnt want much to do with a union with Germany, they just wanted a brotherly friendship with Germany nothing more. The general NSB membership were not as anti-semetic as many now think, even had some members with Indo background. My Grandparents moved to Germany directly after the war, they little option for many Dutch people who were members of the NSB as they were treated as traitors by the royal Dutch government.

[@HistoryHustle]

Very interesting to read, thanks for sharing.

[@jacodevnik9883]

@@HistoryHustle My grandfather for example said the Jews were not really Dutch, but were not all bad and the good ones were very unfairly treated by the Germans, as the Germans did not seperate the good Jews from the bad. He said many Jews worked hard in the Netherlands and had normal jobs and did no harm, so they were not a problem. He also thought the Dutch people were not well treated by the Germans in general, but after the war he moved to Germany for a few years before moving to South Africa and he always said he liked the Germans in general, as I do. The NSB was Nationalist & yes Fascist, but hatred of Jews seems to have been of far less importance to most its members than the overall love of the Nation, the language and the culture of the NL & Flanders, yes Germanic blood was a part of it, but like Italian Fascism Anti-Semitsm was not so important before the Germans made it so & that can be seen by the drop in membership when the pro-German "NL as just a small part of the German Reich, a region NOT a Nation", Anti-Jewish propaganda was pushed on the more Dutch Nationalist members who naturally didnt want to be blended into a German Empire.

[@BHuang92]

Can you cover Hans Van Meegeren? What about Dutch paintings and sculptures stolen by the Nazis and what happened to them?

[@HistoryHustle]

Can't tell. Have to dive into the topic.

[@rickglorie]

A well known drama but with Dutch actors. Check out the Goudstikker collection, there are pictures of Goering in Amsterdam visiting the attelier. Getting stuff back is still ongoing. Our national treasure "De nachtwacht" escaped via my hometown and ended up in a bunker, never to be confiscated.

[@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860]

Sehr interessant. Können Sie ein Video über den kanadischen Befreiung von Niederland machen?

[@HistoryHustle]

Gemacht: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZiYeHh7gtl2qas

[@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860]

@@HistoryHustle danke

[@eriperi7346]

Good to know that the internal clash between nationalists and germanists was everywhere, in Flanders, the Netherlands, the Baltics....

[@HistoryHustle]

Yes, much clashes yes.

[@coling3957]

pack of wolves tearing eachother apart. but that is the history of extremism - someone more extreme always comes along and so it goes on....

[@HistoryHustle]

That's where it comes down to, Colin.

[@coling3957]

@@DaveSCameron eh?

[@stepanovtakiov9311]

Could you do the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 plz? Good video Stephan.

[@HistoryHustle]

Sorry, not really the scope of my channel. Check Armchair History for an amazing episode on that!

[@stepanovtakiov9311]

@@HistoryHustle You did a video on the Ukraine situation from 2014-now.

[@Chiefer94]

Soviets?? Lol new subscriber here from Missouri!

[@HistoryHustle]

Great, welcome to the channel Cody!

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

4:50 sometimes because of members who had Indian background?

[@HistoryHustle]

Like from the Dutch East Indies.

[@MTG776]

The Dutchman says that he will go and find some food, the Englishman will find some water and the Chinaman is sent for Supplies. When the Dutchman and the Englishman come back with food and water the Chinaman is nowhere to be found. They wait a bit till they can't wait longer and start preparing the food.The Dutch and English guy start eating and out of nowhere the Chinese guy jumps out the bushes and shouts: " SUPPLIES ".

[@HistoryHustle]

lol

[@_-Naz-_]

Why do they always say houzee??

[@HistoryHustle]

Please check my video about the prewar NSB for that.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

Shame their clashes didn't involve bullets

[@HistoryHustle]

Fair point.

[@rokadaprliinnysystemyaczno4761]

At least they fought communism on the Eastern Front.

[@HistoryHustle]

At least...

[@eriperi7346]

Fascism and anti-semitism was common in all of Europe. Anti-communism was dominant in Europe, mainly in Catholic and Protestant countries. Those who took up arms against communism in 40-45 were "collaborators". Their younger brothers who did exactly the same 10 years later in Korea fighting communism too, were "heroes". Perception, nothing else.

[@passantNL]

Those that fought in Korea didn't fight for a regime that occupied their own country first. Those that joined the SS did. That makes them collaborators.

[@HistoryHustle]

@Maarten: you present the facts oversimplified.

[@jamesi2018]

well nothing wrong with this, people are inspired by what they find to be glamourous, if you lived next to a paratrooper camp you would be inspired to be one of them for the prestige, to get women etc, it just would have been very awkward when the war came to an end but i bet it was good while it lasted

[@HistoryHustle]

Well, looking at testimonies it wasn't good.

[@paulmcewen]

Dutch” Known as Germanic but without a spine☠️💀

[@HistoryHustle]

Ok.

[@user-fo4tw4jw1u]

Dutch in English means German. In fact, the,, Dutch "people are of German descent.They are germans. Same folk.

[@HistoryHustle]

Nope.

[@rickglorie]

Genetically maybe, but our societies have drifted apart for centuries leading to all sorts of cultural differences.

[@passantNL]

Don't confuse German and Germanic.

[@Lemmingskiller]

Dutch is our language and only a little German worths in it , same as English and French worths . Germanic has to do with a long time ago when there where no real borders . German in English is German . It’s almost a insult to call us germans and in some parts of my country you could end up in a fight . Most of the county’s in the west part of europe are called Germanic even Great Britain and the Scandinavian county’s and you can’t say that we all are the same folk