The Eb Alto Trombone

[@jeffwilson3202]

At 2:53 You said you can get alto trombones in the key of 'if'. That's questionable :-)

[@nicholastrombone9899]

No key of F

[@xHadesStamps]

😂🤣😅😆😂😂🤣😆😂😂😅

[@JBJunior2]

Nicholas' Trombone r/whoooosh

[@mikeretzer6235]

I’ve never played an alto. (Yet.) All of the pitches would be “iffy” for me. 😆

[@TrentHamilton]

Hey Andy. KZbin doesn't let me reply directly to your comments for some reason, so I hope you see this. From 4:23 I start playing some pedal notes. The note at 4:27 is the same pitch as a pedal Bb on a tenor or bass trombone.

[@andymayeuxproductions]

oh ok thanks :)

[@andymayeuxproductions]

OR BASS LIKE I SAID #smh

[@spoilerzado]

hey man, what's the song in 4:10?

[@MinecraftBuildersUK]

+Marcos Gustavo Galvan the acrobat!

[@JonFrumTheFirst]

The alto is good for a trombone choir. It would have been nice to hear big band arrangements with alto, tenor and bass trombone, just like alto, tenor and baritone sax. I think alto trombone lost out to tenor because the positions need to be more exact to be in tune - there's less room for error on a smaller/higher instrument.

[@xHadesStamps]

Ensemble, not choir. Choir is specific to *vocal* music.

[@jamieblandtrombone]

Trombone choirs exist

[@xHadesStamps]

@@jamieblandtrombone No, they don't. That is a misnomer.

[@dickcounsell]

see the last definition choir ˈkwī(ə)r/Submit noun noun: choir; plural noun: choirs --an organized group of singers, typically one that takes part in church services or performs regularly in public. "the Baptist choir" --synonyms: singers, chorus, chorale, choral society, voices, choristers, glee club "the children's choir sang at our wedding" --one of two or more subdivisions of a choral group performing together. "his famous Spem in alium for eight five-part choirs" --the part of a cathedral or large church between the altar and the nave, used by the choir and clergy. --a group of instruments of one family playing together. "a clarinet choir"

[@TenorCantusFirmus]

Some Symphonic Orchestra also might require 1st trombonist to play alto, and ask to play both it and tenor in the accepting audition.

[@godzillapowerpufffan8142]

4:04 I loved that part when you played the acrobat waltz which is my favorite song for trombone

[@seansutherland6270]

Conn makes a professional Eb alto trombone with a Bb trigger

[@carlenger9707]

Yep. Conn 36H.

[@nicholastrombone9899]

And they are expensive as all hell

[@stansmith4054]

@@nicholastrombone9899 No kidding, I could find a nice used car for the price of that Conn!

[@turnitback]

That's excellent, Trent. However, what else would I expect, having watched so many of your videos? I just got an alto trombone. It's a John Packer 136. In case anyone is thinking of buying one, I can say that is beautifully made. The mouthpiece is just like the one for my baritone. I didn't expect that. I thought it would be more or less like an Eb tenor (alto) horn MP.

[@grugg3108]

Our standard saxes also alternate for the most part. Eb sopranino Bb soprano Eb Alto Bb Tenor Eb Baritone Bb Bass Eb contrabass different keys of different or same saxes do exist though the conn o sax or some novelty horns are some good examples

[@BarretDude]

anybody know what can help me learn to play the alto trombone, like websites or something?

[@BarretDude]

my friend has one and may let me learn it

[@xen0vantage542]

Learn the clef first, and the positions. Do you have any experience with trombones or music?

[@riffraffradicalmarchingban4829]

I have an Elliot Brass alto, come with a ‘9e’ mouthpiece, looks deep like big cornet mp, I find umi 7c really good on it. (small shank tenor trombone mp, small and shallow should work)

[@Snommelp]

I think I have that exact same model of alto (and based on when you published this video, I probably got it around the same time as you). It has some interesting quirks, but I agree with you, I was surprised and pleased with the quality given the price tag.

[@tonyandrade1731]

May I ask what brand it is? Looking for a cheap alto to learn.

[@GhostFireGamingSubscribe]

As a Bass Trombonist , would you recommend me going to a Eb Alto T-bone? Next year is my high-school year and I'm 1st chair atm. btw nice sound!!

[@lucasdavis8089]

What'd you end up doing?

[@PrinceSwaggy]

It's gonna be easier for you because not alot of air

[@TheBoogie1127]

Its a late reply, but never play an instrument your director doesnt ask you to play. Despite the physical similarities its a completely different horn

[@stansmith4054]

@@TheBoogie1127 I have to respectfully disagree.

[@TheBoogie1127]

@@stansmith4054 in class? Nah fam that stuff would never slide

[@Scott-bq7jn]

Can you post a link for it i want one

[@darylynn621]

What do you suggest for a wipe down cloth when putting away a horn with a nickel plated finish.

[@zacharyholderle9673]

is that brand "moz" i bought one to learn for my highschool band and it is a moz and it looks exactly like that

[@TrentHamilton]

These instruments are likely all made in the same factory - though when you order them you can have them put on any brand you like.

[@zacharyholderle9673]

i understand that, but the one in particular that i purchased had the same distinctive curved support for the tuning slide, most Chinese and other kinds have a straight support for the tuning slide and curved for the other two that are, so i was just curious about that, i do realize that they are all nearly if not exactly the same

[@stansmith4054]

I just bought an Eb Moz. It is surprisingly a nice horn.

[@darkwind9000]

I have a conn 4h from 1922 it's in b flat alto instead of it being in e flat one which is interesting. It plays really well with a Mount Vernon 12c or a Bach 15.

[@TrentHamilton]

That'll be a tenor trombone, not an alto trombone, I suspect :)

[@darkwind9000]

Trent Hamilton What mouthpiece do you mostly use on your alto?

[@TrentHamilton]

The cheap no-name mouthpiece that came with it :)

[@darkwind9000]

Gotcha :)

[@darylynn621]

I saw your Alto on You Tube, Very Special horn. You did not plug the Texas Shop that did the beautiful work ?

[@darylynn621]

I did some reading, About the Jim Bao, some folks suggest a different "Lead Pipe" be installed , I found this while researching the EF,Durand Alto trombones, which I am considering at 243U$D , shipping included. My other cosideration is 2 yrs Warrantee,and buying from a US vendor, and the added protection that comes from/With, using Pay Pal.

[@hanj31]

You should get the tiger plastic trombone and Do a review of it.

[@cheflos]

I don't play Eb's I play D#'s

[@Chvyce]

rimshot lol

[@nicholastrombone9899]

Same note

[@professorseverustobiassnap1566]

Lol 😂

[@professorseverustobiassnap1566]

Yea and I don't play e naturals. I play f flats

[@joanmartinez4441]

I don't play Eb or D#, I play Fbb and C##

[@avivho]

NEED TROMBONE ALT WITH quart ship to israel can u advise?

[@fnaflol99graves67]

How much would you charge me for a f attachment tenor?

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

Have you ever reviewed the Jiggs mini trombone, which is actually an alto trombone.

[@thinkerly1]

Those eyebrows really help for pulling those high notes.

[@wwemario12345]

How you ever seen the Tromba Jazzbone?

[@landonmarx1296]

wwemario12345 Yes

[@wick3dxgaming761]

Whenever you get the chance, could you demonstrate the trombone/euphonium solo Harmonious Blacksmith? I'm doing that solo on euphonium rn

[@DarrenBradyTrombone]

WICK3D x Gaming Yea im doing that on Tenor/ Soprano trombone

[@darylynn621]

I would like to play the alto tbone, reading bass clef, while reading from Amanda's Euphonium beginners book first year. If I can just learn the slide positions. For it in Bass cleff. My only plan is go to the piano and make a drone tape starting at C3 and go, up and down. I have some old Teneor tbones, had thought of cutting one down.. But have a new Alto also.

[@theafellacomposer]

2:51 Ammoon sells “Alto” Trombones in Bb for some reason which I find pretty weird. :P

[@stansmith4054]

It is a printing mistake on their part. I would never buy a horn from a company that doesn't know the difference.

[@theafellacomposer]

@@stansmith4054 What's weird about it is that different brands also have this "strange horn" particularly Chinese brands. Strange world eh? Maybe they're just selling a really small-bore Tenor Trombone hahahaha

[@spencerparker8406]

You might also want to compare the alto and the straight tenor

[@pebblebeach8517]

Can you give us the name of that Chinese alto I might get one to play around with ?

[@bradenmaples698]

0:29-0:32 you said you could get us one for $250 US, how?

[@Quasar0406]

By means of china

[@randomjack8428]

More playing would be nice

[@dylanhutchinson13]

how do i get on like that

[@JustClaude13]

You can still get a Moz for under $300US. Other professional trombonists recommend it for learning alto, since the quality and sound are exceptional for the price..

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

one day you should pick up a sackbut or cimarron too and demonstrate

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

Have you ever played and alto in F? What was the difference.

[@pantopia3518]

Is it same pitch as tenor horn

[@TrentHamilton]

+cant choose name Yes

[@pantopia3518]

Instead of getting Chinese unbranded instruments buy an Elkhart or sonata student instrument. They're trusted student model and about the same price and I have seen Elkhart alto trombone

[@clayton3590]

I quite enjoy this trombone

[@mike_the_maker3996]

This might be a stupid question but i add it still non transposing?

[@andymayeuxproductions]

please answer this If you tried to play a pedal one on that alto trombone, would it be like the Eb like on a tenor in 4th position with the trigger? Would it play a pedal tone?

[@adamjdorfman]

Hey dude, huge fan. Where did you get this bone, and for what price? I'm an aspiring pit musician for shows, and I'm kind of interested. Do you think I should get it?

[@adamjdorfman]

Don't wanna spend a lot. Just seems like it can be a fun instrument, not an enormous investment. Is it worth it?

[@TrentHamilton]

Go for it! I got mine from Aliexpress.

[@BernhardMichaelPlos]

great video!

[@michaelbaker1936]

Could you do a video on musical notation for these trombones? Maybe even one about the Alto (Tenor as you call it) Horn? I'm writing parts for a trombone choir and I'd like to know how the are written

[@rhonesmendonca9725]

@trent Hamilton, I'm sorry, maybe is an stupid question...But do know how it's work an Eb Valve trombones? Works like this or baritono for example? What's should be the application for an Eb Valve Trombones?

[@riffraffradicalmarchingban4829]

Your ability to pick up horns and blow with relative tuning and proficiency, may make some think they may do the same. With that said alto bone is hard! Hard to pitch and blow well. What do others think who have an alto?

[@noahschoenike2412]

Where did you go online to purchase this Eb alto trombone?

[@drlingling6184]

this looks like a roy benson trombone in the bent tubing

[@pebblebeach8517]

What clef does the alto play in ? Can it play from the same clef as a tenor 🎷?

[@emperorofgaming8146]

Late reply, but it plays in alto clef. You cannot play it from the same clef as a tenor sax without doing more transposing.

[@louisdoherty1480]

Hey Trent, I play Clarinet as a main instrument and I play Tenor Sax for jazz ensemble. I want to play a brass instrument, preferably marching French horn (called mellophones in the U.S.) or marching baritone. However, my band director says I need to learn tenor before learning more instruments. Help?

[@TrentHamilton]

+Tools240 I'm not sure what you need help with here. I've never played any 'marching' variety of instruments, as we don't really have them in this country.

[@louisdoherty1480]

+Trent Hamilton They are basically the same as their concert counterparts, but more suited for marching and outdoor environment (like the tuba and the sousaphone) and they have slight tonal differences. I was just wondering what instruments are good coming from a woodwind player :)

[@darylynn621]

I find the Euphonium to have the Richest sound and Range, the Marching 3 Valve Baritone is a SweetHeart to play also. I have never heard a good sounding Mellophone? If I played French Horn, I'd rather play Alto Horn or Tenor Horn ( Valakeri Horn) as. the Rhinegold fans name it.

[@joephillips5731]

Where would I get this trombone?

[@MichealMJF]

I disagree that it's only a novelty instrument. Every time I hear a trombone ensemble I'm wanting to hear higher pitched horns on top for more arranging flexibility. The alto looks to be the ideal addition. Also, a big band such as Stan Kenton utilizing 5 trombones could definitely have benefitted from having the alto as the top voice.

[@darylynn621]

Please excuse my ignorance , but "What is Pedal tone"

[@TrentHamilton]

+darylynn621 In brass instrument terms, it is the fundamental tones of the instrument. The lowest notes you can naturally play.

[@darylynn621]

Cool thanks, could this be lowered by a longer tuning crook? Say to B flat on An E flat horn? I have an ancient alto horn that came with an extra crook. It was bent so I never tried it.

[@jrlepage2a03]

+darylynn621 If the tuning slide was longer, then yes. The length if the tubing is what determines the pitch of an instrument, which is the whole principle behind tuning slides (and the trombone's main slide, even). As an example, my Bb/F tenor trombone has a really long tuning slide for the F attachement which lets me tune it all the way down to E. I don't think there exist alto trombones in F which have a long enough tuning slide that you can tune them in Eb, but in theory, it would be possible.

[@riffraffradicalmarchingban4829]

Alto bone is hard, it’s a unique best, mebbe French horn, alto horn or cornet players can do it justice, I’m trying to learn a new embachure..

[@Tbaribone1115]

Is that a Moz alto trombone?? I bought one recently and I'm still trying to get use to it

[@chrisdrybread8142]

Jacob Carter my alto is a moz and it’s ok sence like Trent I’m not likely going to preform with it but what’s your opinion of it ?

[@SWMP1523]

I didn't even think that an Alto trombone existed

[@nicholastrombone9899]

Look at the piccolo trombone that thing shouldn't exist.

[@nostalgiakarlk.f.7386]

E Flat is my favorite key! :-)

[@cetologist]

I bet you play Eb Tuba or Contra-Alto clarinet.

[@peterrichards1051]

Hey, I'd love to know where you get all your instruments from. Is there a stockist out there or something?

[@TrentHamilton]

Peter Richards Go to aliexpress.com :)

[@astanarr]

What is EB is it a new Instrument or something?

[@TrentHamilton]

Eb = E Flat. The key of the instrument.

[@gulfstreamfixer]

Would you recommend a Bach 42b trigger Tenor trombone?

[@TrentHamilton]

+Charles Fischer Yes. Bach make good trombones. Just don't touch their K valves.

[@nickzakos271]

Trent or someone else who may know, what exactly is the make and model of that horn? I'm in the market for an Eb bone and I don't want to break the bank but I'd also like something that plays as well as yours.

[@TrentHamilton]

It's a Chinese made alto bought from Aliexpress. I believe they're made by Jinbao.

[@nickzakos271]

Trent Hamilton Awesome, thanks

[@JL-bu8bz]

Tks good

[@ultimatex455]

where do you buy your Chinese brand trombones?

[@G5xgajsjY793]

+Joe strassburger (ultimatex455) I don't know where he gets his specifically but just search for the instrument you want to purchase on Ebay or Amazon and search for ones with a lower price, they aren't terribly difficult to find.

[@EddieChung]

I think mostly Alibaba

[@jorandax9059]

China

[@nope968]

what is the name on the first song you played? (not the scale)

[@johnslattery6385]

It's The Acrobat

[@aidanchristensen1581]

Technically, those were the 2nd harmonics.....

[@jesusadolforamos7357]

Thanks for this vídeo,I 've just buyet a trombone like this🖐️👍

[@riffraffradicalmarchingban4829]

I try to play an Eb bone, an Elliott Brass, intonation is a bitch on an Eb, not so on an Eb tuba, does my head in

[@Reckless150681]

Is this a Jin Bao?

[@TrentHamilton]

***** It's made by Jin Bao, but they allow you to put your own brand on it. I think this one is a 'Trent Hamilton' branded trombone.

[@Reckless150681]

Good choice.

[@Reckless150681]

Trent Hamilton Did you get yours from Emily Music Online?

[@painting40k]

Where do you buy your chineese no name instruments, and what Eb/D Trumpet do you play?

[@TrentHamilton]

I've got some contacts that I've used before. Email me using my contact details on my channel page. The Eb/D trumpet that I've got is another Chinese instrument. Cost around $150.

[@johnnyverhoeven5378]

I love my alt trombone :)

[@gulfstreamfixer]

from year 2005ish

[@billswingle2672]

I like it!! Neat!

[@lerippletoe6893]

Hey Trent can you tell me how this instrument has held up for a year? I'm just about to buy the very same one and would just like to hear that it didn't wear itself out like crazy or anything.

[@TrentHamilton]

It's help up just fine, but, to be honest, I've only taken it out of the case once or twice since this video was made.

[@alistairbarrow5642]

thats not the first fundamental of the tenor trombone based on the harmonic series

[@chordeaux8203]

1:53, WATCH OUT, HES GOT A GUN!

[@availablearchive]

I don't play F# I play Gb

[@jesseadocnascimento1232]

Ze !!!!

[@EggyB]

250$ Chinese alto trombone To buy