The Egyptian's View On The Soul And The Afterlife

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Jeffrey Mishlove discusses the Egyptians view on the afterlife, the soul, various viewpoints other viewpoints on the afterlife.
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[@REDPUMPERNICKEL]

Julian Jaynes' theory, as presented very clearly in his great book, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" explains very clearly why people, who lived in civilizations up until three millennia ago, 'knew' there was an afterlife. Have you not read it?

[@mobieus7]

​@@REDPUMPERNICKELHe didn't take it far enough. Animals around the planet communicate with structured vocalization and color patterns. How many of them perceive a reflection as themselves?

[@cosmicpilgrim]

Thank you

[@naytchh7]

Recently discovered Jeffrey Mishlove and have been devouring his YT channel. Academia needs many more like him! ❤

[@EasyMoneySnipers]

It's crazy I just stumbled upon his interviews yesterday! I was looking into Jacques Valle's books and someone in the comments recommended to watch the Mishlove interview with Terrence McKenna. I started watching some of the videos on his channel. Super interesting guy (although some of his concepts are a little far out for me). Anyway I just think its a cool coincidence.

[@LegendaryDesu]

Same

[@briansmith2836]

He is a gullible flake who has no background in science. He literally believes in every paranormal claim from ICT to past lives.

[@BrandoEats]

@@EasyMoneySnipers Love the connection was made in the comments, and not just the omniscient algo :P

[@agilbertatucb]

He is an absolute gem. Another little know other to check it is Jeff Kripal

[@Kanamit3150]

Kurt. You did extremely well putting this guy on your show. Keep going.

[@baronhelius4596]

Very interesting. When I was a young child about 3 years old I had a memory/dream that I was an adult female (I am male and straight), walking around a courtyard with a fountain and was gazing at the fountain through a wrought iron fence while gliding my hand along it. I could feel my dress and hear its rustling as I walked. I felt aristocratic or from a wealthy class and the whole thing felt very familiar and Spanish. Of course I had no idea or reference about anything Spain or Spanish. It wasn’t until I got older that it all started to fall into place. And the real kicker was when I found out I was part Spanish and that my Spanish ancestors were rather wealthy.

[@missyshera7890]

Thank you for featuring Jeffrey Mishlove on your channel. I have been following Jeffrey for many years. ❤

[@TomVernonUAP]

jeffery is such a great guy

[@adamrice4824]

Wow!! My 2 favourite youtube channels finally meet.

[@deborahflello2316]

Love this guy, Jeffrey . I am 62 and wish I had discovered him years ago. I found him through listening to an interview with Robert Bigelow. What a great mind he has. Nice job Curt ❤

[@n-xsta]

I love Jeffrey Mishlove and his program ❤❤❤

[@Shinyshoesz]

Mishlove is such a G haha. Love this guy. Such an open mind and has been doing it for decades

[@brandonb5075]

I found New Thinking Allowed about two years ago, it is a great way to test your Ego. I started watching thinking I would have lots of laughs; the opposite occurred…Dr. M has definitely aided in my “mind opening” process. Great clip Curt, have a great weekend!✌🏼😊

[@RevealerOfNow]

Love Jeffery! The Bob Ross of Parapsychology. Grew up watching both of them as a kid

[@Catseyes07]

I love Jeffrey Mishlove!

[@gavaniacono]

Jeffrey is usually such a terrif listener of others' ideas, and has enough knowledge to engage with the most esoteric folk. It's nice to see him interviewed, he's got a lot if interesing things to say himself.

[@cosmicpilgrim]

Congrats with your website Curt.. and your TOEmail newsletter ... Wishing you more than all the best. I had missed your podcast with Jeffrey ... Yours and his channels are the only ones I have bookmarked... Thank you for this reminder .. ... Lots more to articulate ....This is what I am working on since many decades >>> to answer all open questions and complete the Big Picture of our Life... Plan is to complete it in the coming months ... Thank you

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Wow! I'm so glad! - Curt

[@JueshWRLD428]

This is a collab id never thought id see!

[@Michael_X313]

I was shown all the keys points of this life as a child. I forsaw all the greatest and worst experiential perspectives the things I would end up going through through what I can best describe as a higher conscious lense. I don't know much about past lives because this life wasn't even given the chance to construct a solid ego in the first place. I wish I could share the revelations I've received but trying to do so with our language would just botch the point. Consciousness fundamental... don't deny fear...go through it.

[@mobieus7]

Because you saw the title of the book or had one page read to you, it invariable led to you making the effort of reading the whole book only to question why you even chose the book.

[@carlosortiz-sn2yd]

I didn’t know you had an interview with him. Fantastic.

[@edac627]

THE REAL OG HIMSELF! Think out loud my boy! ❤

[@marcmarc172]

This was a tough one for me. Thanks have having this guest.

[@chrisallard1819]

Amazing - thank you!

[@Lucasvoz]

As a student of Egyptology I'm not sure the Egyptians ever made mention of reincarnation, at least reincarnation isn't the term I would use. He's definitely right about the Egyptian idea that every person has not only a body, but also a number of other forms/souls. Soul is a tricky word here but the Egyptians believed there were multiple parts of a person that persevere after death, with different destinations and purposes. All that said, I think that if we continue to think about life after death as an "after" instead of a "beyond", we remain stuck in a spatial-temporal paradigm, which may apply in reincarnation, but it gets really confusing when trying to explain theological concepts of life beyond death. We start imagining some location, staying stuck space time.

[@mitchelljacky1617]

An extension of this argument is that assuming this phenomenon of reincarnation is true, a possible explanation of the collective unconscious affecting the afterlife is that consciousness creates an extension of itself. I enjoy the notion of consciousness as a "field" akin to any physical field like a quantum or gravitational field. Considering the energy conservation laws these fields obey would imply that consciousness also is conserved and reincarnation is a mechanism by which this takes place. Just a fun idea to think about!

[@BrandoEats]

omg how did I miss an episode /w Jeffrey?!

[@AZsTopConnection]

10:20 I just got done watching Kripals Lecture at the Sol Conference!!!!! Synchronicity!!

[@electrica__]

Love the video thumbnails

[@vapormissile]

The 1700-cases-solved study is apparently referring to one by James G Matlock, based on a university study. Google tried to rabbit-hole me there, but i got out.

[@amyk6403]

❤Love❤ Jeff!

[@jacquin8511]

Super interesting - this makes me wonder why we don't hear more about the ancient Egyptian cosmology and ontology. I lean towards a Jungian collective-unconscious explanation for "memories" of situations and general events that an individual ostensibly hasn't experienced, rather than reincarnation in the sense of some individual essence that is preserved and transmigrates. Mishlove mentions the collective unconscious in connection with the afterlife, so I'm unclear why memories of putative past lives require a different mechanism. Certainly the idea of the "personal" essence being composite and perhaps decomposing into elements that go their separate ways is worth a ponder.

[@EsotericPrinciplesOfLight]

Working your way round to Robert Bigelow I see. Nathaniel Gillis, Steve Mera and Barry Fitzgerald would also be great collective guests together Curt.

[@casaamaril]

Yes, especially Steve Mera who is a great storyteller and Barry Fitzgerald

[@Solaar_Punk]

Steve's a bit too credulous

[@sd5919]

I think empirically all we can say is these people remembered someone else’s memories. It could be reincarnation or simply point to a collective consciousness of some sort where memories can be shared. I had a strange bout of deja reve once and when I told my friend he finished telling me what I’d seen. It was a memory of a very specific and vivid dream he had from his early childhood before I’d even been born (he was older than me). I think of this often when reincarnation is offered as the only explanation for these stories.

[@oRealAlieNo]

I have dejavu of the same life...like im struggling to break away from the loop. Too many synchronicities have happened.

[@Ciskokid1970]

I hope he’s right 🤩👍👍👍

[@user-vo3vs1ds1p]

Curt, Wouldn't it be interesting to see if anyone is "educating" AI's in a specific bodies of historical literature... meaning uploading libraries of Egyptian Middle Kingdom "texts" .... into an AI program... would that then allow us to "converse" with a Egyptian mind from that time period? Sumerian cuniform texts? Of course we can read the texts and assume what the "gestalt" worldview would be...but what would we learn if we could actually convese with a mind from that time period? What would be the emergent aspects? What if you can interview a Sumerian? Surely someone is already doing this??

[@amyk6403]

Great idea!

[@xanxus8272]

For the algo

[@budrobinson7965]

gonna tell my kids this is Jessie the body Ventura

[@Solaar_Punk]

🤣🤣🤣

[@knoweagle888]

The Tao that is told cannot be known The way that is shown is not your own As above, as soul below Yin and Yang and Ouroboros Forty days and forty nights The darkest days forewarns enlight The Unus Mundus, the Axis Mundi Your inner compass will guide you through thee Dante’s and Virgil’s inferno journey The Duat retaught the justice and mercy A sacred plane of many names Arcane domain no frame profanes The Few have seen where Jacob dreamed Therein between each conscious stream…

[@DOCTORHEINOUS]

So, that being said about reincarnation contibuting to gender dysphoria, how should we handle the condition? Should it still be seen as a mental illness as the DSM5 classifies, largely because of the su icide rates, many of which having no relation to bullying or outcasting, but simply mindest. Should it be treated as an illness considering studies show no amount of hormonal changes or body mutil ation reduces the percentage of sui cides, or teach it in elementary schools as a positive ideology?

[@Solaar_Punk]

Ask the people that promote it.

[@mobieus7]

So the brain stem or the thalamus. Who's taking bets?

[@tedgunderson67]

I died fighting over a woman in what appeared to be a midevil era. It’s my oldest memory/first dream.

[@impossiblevisits]

This is about one Egyptian's views?

[@thewaythingsare8158]

At death, you break up: the bits that were you Start speeding away from each other for ever With no one to see. It's only oblivion, true: We had it before, but then it was going to end, And was all the time merging with a unique endeavour To bring to bloom the million-petaled flower Of being here Philip Larkin

[@OmegasMusic]

Think about Christ and the Holy Spirit being made available only after ascension

[@docelky]

So if the after life is what we manifest it to be........ I got some good ideas than!

[@BradfordtheEclectic]

then

[@joeyhead100]

The good place t.v. show. Anyone know it? Physical is hell. Imagined consequences are Dreamland. Real consequences are afoot.

[@psychotronic_x]

Remember when you used to ask hard questions?

[@PrescottValley]

Why is everyone obsessed with us having to reincarnate forward in time? Why can't you reincarnate into the same bodies in the same timeline? If time isn't fundamental, or even if we live in a block universe, then all of time, the past, present, and future are already recorded and are only coordinates then we should be able to even reincarnate backwards in time.

[@Solaar_Punk]

Because time in this dimension is fixed in one direction. The people from this timeline's past have already had souls.

[@PrescottValley]

@Solaar_Punk people in the future would also already have souls if the past, present, and future exist simultaneously, too. Einstein told us almost 100 years ago that time is just an illusion and all exist simultaneously together. So which dimension is time fixed in? We live in 4 dimensions that we know of already. We can do the math for 7 more dimensions that we know we live in according to quantum mechanics and string theory. These 11 dimensions are on a scale of a theoretical infinite number of dimensions that we most likely live in. So which dimension is time fixed in? All of them?

[@PrescottValley]

@Solaar_Punk If time isn't fundamental and the past, present, and future exist together simultaneously. Then all the people in the future would already have souls as well. We know time is an illusion because Einstein told us this almost 100 years ago.

[@PrescottValley]

@@Solaar_Punk I don't know why my replies keep disappearing. KZbin sucks at this point. You can't even have a conversation here anymore

[@SoldierTrading]

reincarnation is respawning and atoms are pixels, we are eternal. Embrace the game against good and evil, chose your team. Im team God

[@zackbarkley7593]

I believe in reincarnation, but I think it could be true even on the physical level (with reasonable abstraction) rather than necessarily being supernatural. Our brains have so much in common just in how theyre connected via biology and genes, that our individuality may be more of a distinction than a difference. Even as an individual your brain wiring and atoms are replaced so you would only be an imperfect copy of a younger self which may in fact have better representatives in todays young people around you today than the old you. If we are forced to say you are you because of your material...that changes too...every atom replaced over 7 years. So we can only really define an identity in the abstract anyways...but this is shared with many other people, animals, and even machines and books when they are in use...at that this abstraction level and to varying degrees. I really think we were all here long ago, right now in other people and possibly other sentient life in the universe, and into the future.

[@SyriusStarMultimedia]

If you enter the world of the dead without proper permissions you will not be greeted warmly and will most likely be booted out and back into your body no matter its condition. The upside is that you will probably see someone that you know.

[@cuddywifter8386]

Sounds like the holographic universe of Micheal Talbot

[@joeyhead100]

Matias DeStefano Atlantis? 10000 years plus.

[@rihhard1072]

I am Jack's corroded liver

[@ericm9305]

Lol where is information about the 1700 "solved" cases?

[@No2AI]

When we die someone or something uploads our consciousness , erasers our memories and experiences and merges it with artificial life . Advanced technology is breeding humanity , no different to cattle breeding for human consumption. It’s our essence that is at stake - when you dream , is it your human character or a subjective non human awareness…. Think about that!

[@Lucmercurius]

That's an interesting idea, can you expand on that? I don't understand the part about dreaming, you mean our true mind is when we dream? What about our lives here, is it digital or are we in "base" reality?

[@No2AI]

@@Lucmercurius our essence, in dream does not acknowledge or recognise our human form or character as the self … whilst in dream state our consciousness disconnects from the body and ventures into a mysterious and disorderly reality , so it appears when you wake up, yet during the dream itself your consciousness accepted it as natural and coherent and does not question the strangeness of the event or events . So Where then is the ‘real you’ and where is the ‘real here’, why during our dreams don’t we question the ‘illogical and irrational’ events that unfold?

[@Tripp111]

"Toe clippings." Now you've gone too far, McNasty.

[@thomasmacklan1621]

This dude has about a noligage of live and death as much as a mouse.

[@samyb2834]

"Some kid remembers that he was a plumber in a past life, must be reincarnation". LMAO that's "hard evidences"

[@pg9896]

Well, you may take a look at some of them. Some include pretty specific and puzzling details, apart from occupation. 😀

[@ProjectMoff]

A Plummer? What are you referencing here?

[@AnEchochet]

Might suit you to dig through the evidence before sharing your limited opinions.

[@Solaar_Punk]

Super Mario

[@samyb2834]

@@AnEchochet I think you should look up “scientific evidence”. That should eliminate any doubts you have.

[@PeterFnPorker]

reincarnation sounds terrible 🗣Christ is Lord

[@ravenmischief8006]

Jesus Christ taught reincarnation. In 553 in Constantinople, the king had it stripped out of the teachings of Christianity.

[@Solaar_Punk]

Better than hell.

[@briansmith2836]

Mishlove is such an incredulous flake. He believes in literally every paranormal claim.

[@vapormissile]

We invented this thing called a dictionary.

[@artandculture5262]

He’s so far left that it ruined my ability to listen to him.

[@Autonomous_Don]

Bro what in the hell is up with his eyes?

[@CrazyLinguiniLegs]

If you already know what’s right, true, and good, then what are you doing here? He didn’t talk politics. You blame him for your inability to listen with an open mind, but that blame seems misplaced.

[@vapormissile]

Contempt prior to investigation has entered the chat.