The Elite 4 of Sk & why J Park Should Shut The F*ck About it

[@nijahvictoria7569]

Bro this girl group dropped a song recently saying they “paved the way” armys on twitter started saying “they wanted to be the next bts but ended up being the next jay park” that shit had me crying☠️😭😭😭

[@mthg]

Ooh can u tell me what's the name of the gg (or a hint)

[@natechavez437]

@@mthg blackpink

[@sahroahmed2553]

The funniest one was jay park got sisters 💀😭

[@nijahvictoria7569]

@@sahroahmed2553 LMAOOO

[@Chill7reader]

LMFAOOOOOO

[@NathiM03]

Jay Park is so delusional. To put things in context: my 45 year old African father knows BTS and is even siting their work in his PhD, He knows Sonny because any fan of the Premier League is a fan of Sonny, He’s a fan of the film Parasite. Obviously he won’t really know much about the gamer because of the generational differences but can you see the impact of all the other top 4. My father would not know the name Jay Park from any other Korean name. Update: my father has finally submitted his PhD proposal and it got approved. He’s graduating as a Dr.

[@ajlee2168]

same, if i told anyone about jay park they wouldnt know him or at most confuse him as a bts member lol. and congrats to your father, thats huge!

[@Yeonkimin_]

You need to see a clip of Jhope reacting to jpark rapping over on the street 😂😂

[@laurahilliker5336]

Yes, he definitely needs to see the ridiculousness of jay park trying to rap over J-Hope’s “On The Street” Please he definitely needs to critique it!

[@mpgisbtsarmybaefighting2838]

He did what now? Isn't that trying to insert himself into J Hope's position? I mean, you can rap with him but trying to overshadow J Hope, haha that's a no no imo.

[@SueBNY76]

😂

[@OTSan]

​@@mpgisbtsarmybaefighting2838he can try but, hes not even close, cuz its THAT bad😂, our honest jhope face cant lie 😂

[@diatima]

Honestly, I feel army went a bit overboard with that clip 😅 Hobi is professional enough to not act weirded out on television when a sunbae is singing with him, let's be real. If you watch the full show you can see they were both vibing with each other, as you'd except them to do on a televised show. I know jpark is controversial, for very good and valid reasons, but this is not it

[@soop5414]

Smokey realizing he can differentiate between Kpop and K-music, is like Penny from Big Bang Theory realizing she speaks Star Trek 😂

[@monimuppet6132]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Penny was the best part of that show!

[@mikrokosmosmuster7615]

😂😂😂😂💜🔥

[@ZariDV]

Boracity can, have and will drag and scalp folks (rightfully so), but this video is where I realized that she is a woman of true mercy. It would have been so easy to go for the kill but she held back. She showed Jay Park attempting to dance his lil heart out, bless him. What she left out was Hobi and him dancing side by side on the same show where they were dancing to JP's song and choreo that Hobi recently learned on the spot. Then Hobi ate him up like a Sunday brunch while he was trying to keep up on his own song.

[@g100-w6j]

being ate up on ur own song by Godhope yeahhhh I would end my sht right then and there if I were him to avoid the embarrassment

[@ebony7177]

That's what Jay Park's fans didn't get. BTS has had to walk minefields before because people asking ignorant questions that no one in their right mind would ever answer. Namjoon has taught them how to move like Randy Moss thru the line in his heyday. They know how to say what they want to say but in a way to be respectful. Hobi is very wise and saw that pittrap and danced it perfectly.

[@jennaeveliina313]

But other Asian artists had to go through that as well, and even with Jay, while he was signed to rock nation, and doing his promotions, American radio/tv hosts kept asking him all the same lame ignorant questions. And later on, on top of that, asking "are you from BTS" "Do you know BTS" "Do you know the members" "what do you think about BTS". And even with all that, he just let it go and said he happy to see other Korean musicians to reach the west. This isnt about who more "opressed" and in wich order, what really bothers me is that other ARMYs(some) are shitting on this man, without an actual logical reason, its "just to 'protect' BTS and theyre Journey" and thats fine in some cases, but in this case, these people are doing it with the expense of Jay's Journey. And then to talk about being 'disrespectfull'.. dont they see the irony. Theres a short video called something like "Jhope said Jay Park paved the way for him" and what they talk in that, about this song and lyrics, would shut down this entire conversation, but even with that, there will be people who spread *ish on him, while using BTS as their argument. As an ARMY, that makes my blood boil.

[@ebony7177]

@@jennaeveliina313 Many ARMY dislike him because he was and has been super disrespectful to the black community and black women. Also your own statements explain why him adding himself into the equation is ridiculous. BTS never got a question about are they "insert other Asian artist here" and the reason for that is the last any remembered at that time was Psy. Stupid as much of western media are they aren't mistaking BTS for Psy. Jay Park has no real foothold in the US so to add his name to other Korean people who have left a mark globally where even many GP will go "Oh that's the director/soccer star/music group/gamer" isn't warranted. I actually saw the whole JHope and Jay Park show and what you saw in the video was basically what Hobi said. BTS don't usually say people "paved the way" for them except Seo Taiji, Psy and Tiger JK (grandfather of the rap movement in SK). BTS has never mentioned Jay Park really. When they talk rap they mention mostly US rappers along with Epik High and Tiger JK. That's because when you start mentioning individuals you get hate from others just because you haven't mentioned someone else so they tend to mention no one. The three I mentioned are ESTABLISHED AS LEADERS OF THE KPOP "MOVEMENT" so to say them and it being true isn't disputable.

[@jennaeveliina313]

@@ebony7177 all of this isnt something im going to debate over, nobody said he has done something to the US music market, but the things he has achieved in South Korea, are the ones that has made the industry and artists respect him. And the fact that he did this without being signed to any of the major labels. People always say how disrespectfull he has been to this or that person, but ive yet to seen any actual incidents of that. Youre definetly entitled to keep youre opinion about him, im not asking you to like him or to agree with me. Im just sayin that its quite ridiculous how some of the ARMYs cry about "the disrespect" when in turn, they are doing the same exact thing, most if them talking about things that they clearly have not researched. It is what it is. And thankfully, all of us like different artists for different reasons, and thats the way most of them are able to provide for themselves and people around them. There are artists that i absolutely refuse to support, because of their beliefs and actions and Jay is not one of them. So far, most of what he has received through his career, he has been giving back to the community. Thats one of the reasons i support him. Same reason that goes with me and BTS.

[@ebony7177]

@@jennaeveliina313 I don't care about your opinion of Jay Park, it's not germane to the point. You asked why some people don't like him and whether you agree with the reasons or not has nothing to do with my OG post which was talking about the video. You're talking about SK but the video was talking about GLOBALLY. He hasn't done the same job in the West to be added to the list. My comment was talking about how Hobi danced thru answering the Jay Park question. If you're ARMY you should know the guys NEVER talk about people paving the way. Namjoon read a comment in chat saying bts paved the way and the swarm of hate he received just a few weeks ago is insane. They talk about legends or who influenced them and never has Jay Park been a part of that conversation. They may like his music but he isn't a leader in rap for them because they tell you who THEY think are.

[@Super_Chamchi]

What she missed on the video was that Jay Park was in a kpop group called 2 PM until he got kicked out. It's believable how he criticized K-pop that he was once in.

[@whaliensuperstar]

It’s so horribly ironic that he got kicked out for disrespecting South Korea aka the country keeping his lights on 😅 now he’s chasing behind bts IN KOREA trying to capitalize off the clout they’ve built for korean artists, just like the whole kpop industry that he shits on. He needs to be serious for once in his life 😂

[@jennaeveliina313]

​@@whaliensuperstar you Clearly have no idea of the Journey Jay has made. On his own. And thats fine by me, but you cant denide the impact he has had on the industry as whole. People try to say he is "nobody" but still, he own 2 of the Most succesfull hiphop labels in South Korea, Higher being the hiphop label of the year, while all the artists under him took home all the wins and titles. Even BTS themselves has shown their respect to him, multiple times. This is not a competition between BTS and Jay Park, theyre goals and Journey has been completely different. Its sad to see people tryin to hype up BTS by hatin on hardworking and talented people. Thats just not right.

[@mev9752]

@@jennaeveliina313but the dude doesn’t even do hip hop , his most known song is a pop song ( trying to ride the jb hype ) and he tend to do R&B and pop the most. Bts had done more hip hop than him. And with his labels he still not broke into the hip hop market in the US and the ones that introduce and make hip hop mainstream in SK were other rappers like verbal j , dynamic duo , jk tiger , epik high , even zico has more impact than him in charting , believe me if jp didn’t exists other would had put a label and all of that lol. Meanwhile if BTS didn’t exist , it not sure that they will be a group as big as BTS from SK cuz their work are too personal and authentic.

[@carlaa2207]

​@@jennaeveliina313 no one is pointing at the journey he has made every artist has one but what people dislike about him is the way he carries himself. You cant force people to like him if the guy has proved time and time again that he is a very self entitled person. Surely no matter what are the achievements he has acomplished in his career, wich by the way many of us know about, that simply wont make him stand out positively if his atitude is one of the most unlikeable in the industry. Sure there will be the ones that can overlook the things hes said and done as an artist and person but as i said u cant force the public to love him or appreciate the questionable behavior we all see in him.

[@jennaeveliina313]

@@carlaa2207 but thats only something those who already dislike him because of the "controversies" say. When you listen to the actual people in his life, personal but also professional, like the people he has worked with, those that he has worked for and the people who have worked for him and still do, they keep sayin he is one of those people who always wants to share everything he has with the people around him. Like the latest artists from H1gher Music, they always talked how even as a CEO of the company, Jay would still use his personal connections and influence to promote even the most rookie artists, just because he knew he had found a way to further their careers. Youre right i cant make anyone like him, especially when its people who dont actually even do any research about him, in order to gather their own opinion about him and instead just repeat vague rumours theyve heard online. If he wasnt a good person behind all this, there wouldnt be this many people supporting him, the South Korean music industry doesnt work like that. But, just like i have my opinion about him, i'll let others have theirs. Theres no point trying to drag in someone, who just doesnt like him.

[@carolinesch.]

24:40 funfact: during that Livestream hobi played the song in his headphones loud enough for the mics to pick it up and basically kind of leaking the song before it came out

[@a.lpz-4]

Love that you love Bora’s pettiness, she is indeed a force to be reckoned with. It is kind of ironic of Jay Park to come around and say he should be part of the South Korean elite when he is been caught up making nasty comments about Koreans, women, and some racist sh*t too. Let's not forget he is from Seattle and he was only able to make a name in the Korean music industry because it is not as big or influential as the American one. If he were to try and enter the American industry he’d be in trouble. No one denies his trajectory in the Asian hip-hop history, and the impact he had on Khip-hop, but his work remains a niche thing (Asia), still not big enough to put him in the same sphere to be considered part of the elite. Most of these rappers, including Jay Park, have a notion of hip-hop but I don't think they even know or care about the main pillars of the genre, which showcases their true approach to the culture. Plus, BTS have been students for years, they keep working on their craft, perfecting their skills. There is a story that was shared a couple of times (during the first years after BTS’s debut) where Yoongi said that, back when he and Namjoon were still underground rappers, people were scared to go against RM during battle raps because he was really good and still a teenager, still underage, and he became even better after years of hard work and dedication. Anyway, it is always a pleasure to see you react to Bora and hear your thoughts, it adds another layer of spiciness to the conversation. Tons of love to you.

[@SnapCracklyPop]

So there’s a line in a diss track by Zico (a hyung) towards another rapper where he pointed out how that rapper lost to young teen RM. He said “You got your ass handed to you by 15 year old Runch” 😆 (his old underground name Runch Randa). Since it’s in Korean, RM’s age was probably 13 years old, unless it was after his birthday (Sept 12). What a legend lol

[@NathiM03]

Juice collaborated with the rap line while he was still alive. He and Yoongi then started throwing around ideas of a collab, I’m not too sure if they recorded the second collab before or after his passing.

[@mollydelacy9007]

Yes he died I think a month later after their Collab as a group first and the Suga by himself I believe was the order of collabs.

[@nectarineees]

yeah I’m pretty sure they reached out to each other before Juice even blew up in popularity, but with the schedule of the game release and everything, the music got released afterwards

[@g100-w6j]

​@@nectarineees that's right. All night was recorded late 2017 or the latest in early 2018, they have known each other for awhile before the bts world songs were officially released. They met when juice was in SK during DNA era in 2017, he went to the company building and they took a photo that's where we know this from

[@nectarineees]

@@g100-w6j oh that’s so cool!! I just searched it up right now and I didn’t even realize that was him when I saw it back then😭

[@g100-w6j]

@@nectarineees yesss it's so wild when u look back because the tannies knew him when he hadn't yet exploded in the US and internationally with his album and especially his song Lucid dreams and at the same time the guys themselves were going through some major growth in the same areas as well. their meeting in SK was before his album that put him on the map for a lot of people. correct me if I'm wrong but that's the timeline, if I'm not confusing dates

[@Yeonkimin_]

He was alive when all night was released and girl of my dreams was apart of their swap deal

[@nicodiangelo3414]

juice world did all night with them when he was alive and since bts usually do double colabs ,like a feature exchange, the other one was also probably planed before his death but completed after

[@marirezende8478]

Yes he was alive when they made the deal for the song! Yoongi does deals (I forgot the name, but the ones where they exchange songs, like they'll do one of the artist and the artist will do one for them) like that! All night was released in june of 2019 (some months before his passing), they probably had the other song waiting to be released like the deal with Halsey and IU (both with Yoongi, who did the feature for Juice) unfortunately he passed before the second song was released. So I'll say both, but the second song was probably already scheduled to be released since Yoongi usually does that. He was also of his documentary and bts had shouted him out way before 2019 if I'm not mistaken.

[@goeienacht]

I immediately thought about the “blue check” clip where they both danced side by side and hobi objectively had way more groove and musicality, it’s like….dang dude, jay set himself up in a position to be “compared” but he would lose in many aspects. It’s weird and makes me cringe.

[@fifiroukine5331]

Boracity is smart and ruthless. I think J Park prefers bad publicity to none, even if it means looking like a beggar.

[@bellacandilada4145]

😂😂😂

[@superwho9458]

I just started this and saw the spice you added to the title and I am dying of laughter already so I am ready for this one

[@R0S1333]

Nbdy in K-pop is beating Bts rap line!!!!periodtttt💜💜💜💜😂😂

[@teri1479]

Actually I believe the government gave the gamer an exemption from the military because of his gaming!

[@SnapCracklyPop]

BTS worked with Juice WRLD before he became even more known/famous. The collaboration actually happened 1 1/2 years before All Night actually came out in June 2019 (I’m just going from the top of my head, unless I misremember). I wanna say January, but I’m gonna say early 2018. I’m trying to remember where I got this from. I wonder if it was a vlive or just something I read back then. In general, international collaborations tend to be done remotely just for logistical/schedule reasons, where supposedly Juice WRLD was actually in S.Korea and so this was in person. If there’s an army who remembers this better than I do, correct me if I’m wrong.

[@ARMYnotArmy]

You're correct, Juice happened to be in Korea for something and had the time to go through with their plans of making this track for the BTS World game. While the soundtrack was released in June of 2019, most of the songs were recorded before Jan. of 2019, one of these songs being 'All Night'. I also think the song with Zara was done in 2018 as well. There were some behind footage where they talked about this. And they even had a clip of Juice in the studio with Namjoon and Yoongi when they were recording. The Suga x Juice collab was planned, and I think... I don't remember exactly what was said, but I think Suga managed to get his part off to Juice, but sadly tragedy struck and it wasn't able to be finished- whoever put together that last album, put it together and Yoongi was notified I'm pretty sure. If I remember he said they reached out to him. He agreed to it.

[@SnapCracklyPop]

@@ARMYnotArmy oh, thank you. Since I don’t see people talk about this in recent years, I’m starting to second guess my memory lol. About Suga with Juice, that’s what I think happened too.

[@g100-w6j]

​@@SnapCracklyPop juice was in SK back in late 2017 where they met and they took a picture together I'm sure you'll find it if u search it up so that's where it all started for the all night collab. they knew each other before juice blowing up with his album, have respect for each other and the BTS world songs were all done late 2017/early 2018

[@ellapetal]

Yoongi actually went to the US to finish his part on Juice’s album. It wasn’t complete, but it was planned before he passed.

[@mae__]

All Night was released when Juice Wrld was alive and Girl of Dreams with Suga was on his posthumous album! It's actually Choppa's song (with Jimin, Jvke, Muni and Kodak) honestly i preferred his verse over Kodak's! You can tell they wanted to recreate a bit See you Again but it's actually a good track (even though ofc i think Jimin could've had more lines and yes it was for f&f movie)

[@carolinesch.]

Wasnt Son recently after this video got made on that one talkshow that namjoon did during his indigo promo, he got asked about that and literally said he heard that but doesnt agree😅

[@CnCplusMe]

Her PETTINESS is EPIC….BUT….I’m here for it😂🤣😂🤣cause was she wrong?🤷🏽‍♀️💕💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💖💕

[@joyfultillman7194]

Bro this fucking title 💕😭

[@borasaekfarmer7278]

I've been a K-pop fan since 2003 so I've been around when Jay Park was part of 2PM, scouted and trained by JYP Entertainment. He f_cked up and got kicked out - rumor was he knocked up a trainee girl. After that, he went solo but he wasn't really trained well in rap so it was his R&B music that kept his career alive. His rap was so bad, his fans kept telling people to give him some time to improve...while he actively acted like he's the best rapper in K-pop. The thing is, even in the Korean hip hop scene, he's only friends with the macho b1tches that appropriate black hip hop as an aesthetic and every time he's around normal rappers like J-Hope, there's zero chemistry. People didn't have a problem with Jay Park for years, he does make good club songs and most considered his f_ckboi antics funny rather than problematic. But then he started yapping about BTS and how he deserves to be named in the same conversation because BTS are only K-pop and he's a real artist... that's when folks turned on him and now, most of his remaining international fans are BTS-haters. He gets decently booked in SK but internationally, he has to tell people that he's signed with this and this label bc nobody even knows him.

[@laurahilliker5336]

@ Jurnalist, BoraCity, Jay Park is A great CEO and he owns multiple companies but he is not born in South Korean. when they’re talking about the elite South Korean they’re talking about those who were born in South Korea, And have made a difference to consider themselves to be elite and legends in their specific fields! Jay park was born in Seattle Washington he is a Korean American he shouldn’t even be part of this conversation other than to cancel him out as part of the elite four! He said he paved the way for BTS he did not pave the way for BTS he has a massive ego not to mention he is a racist and he does a lot of cultural appropriation to the African American Community! Something about Mr. Park ,did start out as a K-pop rapper in JYP entertainment in the K-pop idol group 2 PM and he left because of some controversy! I just think that he has a massive ego that cannot contain in his little head that he is not an elite part of South Korea he is a good businessman who has made money for himself but he has not brought in billions of dollars every year like BoraCity magazine has said like BTS.💜

[@itsbonniefay2417]

Juice Wrld was alive when he collabed with the BTS rapline on their song "All Night" and it's not unusual for the plan with BTS collabs to be one song for BTS and one for the collabing artist so I'm sure that's how the song "Girl Of My Dreams" ft Suga came about. It was released after Juice Wrld's passing, which is unfortunate that they weren't able to do another song together when Juice was alive. I listen to All Night a lot, love the song and the nod to BTS ARMY in Juice Wrld's verse.

[@marirezende8478]

I can't like sjshsksjsk the title is "those who deny it" and the whole video is about Jay Parksksjdkdjkdjdkskd

[@liss2503]

J Park thinking he is better than Faker is insane. What Faker did in gaming is unmatched. There may never be anyone else who will achieve whatever he did. My gamer son doesn’t know k-drama or k-pop but he knows Faker. J Park doesn’t even come close.

[@JJordan19821]

😂😂😂 Boracity is savage. What I appreciate is that ppl might say she is biased but she tries to be objective and see the other side of the coin. So at least she tried to see the other side with Jay Park but at the end of the day she is right. Which other rapper do you hear collaborating with huge Western artists or is being talked about in Hip Hop circles? I'm sorry but he isn't. And what he did after with J Hope is to try to get validation so the next conversation is hey BTS agrees with me. Whoever are BTS media coaches taught Hobi well cause that was beautifully answered. Also having lists like this is always controversial in my opinion. Jurn glad to see u back and your title floored me😂. Good luck in your upcoming shows😊 💜

[@pjmbyul]

You know what's so funny? Anytime something bad happens to BTS (like a media outlet being stupid towards them or Billboard Charts screwing them over), ARMYS have an inside joke where we'll say, "and FUCK Jay Park!" even though he has nothing to do with it 😭😭 it's so funny

[@mthg]

Isn't it also a thing to blame Lee Soo Man if something goes wrong?

[@sunnimastewin6032]

Yeah....thats not funny and i've never heard of any army saying that...I'm not a supporter or hater of him but just throwing his name out there like that as you said even when it has nothing to with him is wadding into the toxic waters. Js everyone has their own sense of "humor" though....

[@CheapButGotMojos]

@@sunnimastewin6032 Calm your horses

[@pjmbyul]

lol it used to be kinda back in the day but that man isnt relevant anymore @@mthg

[@RandomJoey]

@@sunnimastewin6032it’s funny BECAUSE he has nothing to do with these annoying situations 😭 I promise you army on twitter have a ton of inside jokes that are funny because everyone knows they hold no truth lmao it’s only toxic if u make it toxic

[@ann-archist7172]

The bts Juice World collab was first. The suga collab was planned and recorded before his death but then not released. Eventually, it was added to the posthumous album.

[@carmieeskn]

You have to see the clip of jay park rapping over On the street its so funny, the way hobi looks at him in disgust is tooooo good

[@cristal2985]

All i have to say is i need some of what this man sniff to be this delulu😞😩😫

[@tinarangel34]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@woozi_vert]

I’m sayin😭

[@christinen9104]

The title and the reaction were great! 😂👍💜

[@laurahilliker5336]

@Jurnalist, BTS did a collaboration while Juice WRLD was still alive it’s called “all night” and Suga did a post Collab production of Juice WRLD “Girl of my Dreams”

[@savedbybtseu]

Watching this now 24:56, I realized isn't this the live where we heard the music jhope was listening to almost a spoiler ( I was freaking out too haha) to his new album he's working on then that staff had to knock on his door and tell him! That was why we heard it! hahaha

[@marirezende8478]

Nah the "Fuck Jay Park" title 😭😭😭😭 lmfaoooooooo

[@clarahoran2706]

one of my favorite videos of yours is definitely your reactions to boracity😂

[@eevvee8831]

i don't think people realizes how big faker is both in south korea and internationally. The dude single handled carried the company he represents in the e-sports community. People started taking e-sports and league of legends seriously. Faker made e-sports and league of legends mainstream to the point where it got so popular they made a netflix animations about it. Faker was being offered millions of dollars to be signed in another company located in another country and faker denied every offer there is because he only wants to represent his country. FAKER WAS TITLED THE UNKILLABLE DEMON KING OF THE E-SPORTS LEAGUE OF LEGENDS COMMUNITY. Faker is basically Michael Jackson and bts combined in the e-sports industry. Faker is a hall of famer. People started visiting T1 building for tours and league of legends conventions became so mainstream because he goes viral every single time. That is why when BTS and the SKT T1 team collaborated in a BTS run ep, it was so monumental. It was basically saying, "hey, the people who brings so much in the economy and visibility for south korea in terms of music and e-sports are in the same building". E-sports believe it or not is more mainstream than figure skating and baseball. Baseball might be big in south korea but in terms of e-sports, you know how many people plays games?

[@kunilsen2519]

Yeah, I have heard mixed opinions on J Park. I deep dived into his stuff maybe some years back and thought I liked him. But slowly (and I dont know why) I started becoming more and more neutral and generally just done with him. Again, have no idea why. I didnt quite dislike him. It was just how my personal "journey" with him went. After this video I am much more wary about him. I have seen people defending him, but I cant be botherd enough to actually get into everything. Edit: I noticed a spelling mistake

[@ajlee2168]

my 'journey' with him has been really similar to yours. there's a few controversies of his that i was aware of but weren't bad enough for me to think he was a bad person or anything. nowadays i believe this is just part of his image, a korean-american wanting to be accepted and successful in korea while also hoping for extra attention and praise for his 'western' personality. in some ways, similar to jessi. i think i just dont really like him because i cant tell whats part of him and what's just done to keep his image alive. and at this point, whether its his personality or just a stage persona, i just dont like it. it's goofy, but not enough to be funny. it's bold, but not enough to actually interest me. it could all be a marketing strategy, but it doesn't seem thought out. its not a clever trick or a witty remark. it's just a loose pattern of behaviors i dont vibe with, that keep me generally uninterested in the guy. weird how hard it is to properly explain that feeling.

[@kunilsen2519]

@@ajlee2168 Right? I cant really find the words to exspress the correct feelings about him. I think you did a much better job than me tho lol

[@monimuppet6132]

I'm kinda old so I recognized is culture vulture/pandering ways pretty early on. He wants the kind of career the Rapline has especially and - even though I'm no fan of it - his music does seem credible. But real recognizes real and in the US, only a certain "flavor" of rapper can be mediocre and still be a mainstream star (for a time). Someone that thinks like Jay Park will never understand what really moves an audience when it comes to hiphop.

[@ajlee2168]

​@@kunilsen2519oh thank you haha, its not often that i feel so conflicted about an idol lol

[@alperry02]

​@monimuppet6132 that's exactly it. Real recognize real. And he ain't it

[@eva.nvrmnd]

Your enjoyment of the pettiness made this even more entertaining than it already was 😅

[@Jurnalist_]

I’m a enjoyer of petty with a capital P. 😂😂

[@eva.nvrmnd]

@@Jurnalist_ I could tell 😁 Enjoy Glasgow!

[@Jurnalist_]

@@eva.nvrmnd right. I’m very secretive with it😂😂😂😂. I will try.

[@izzatys7037]

They meet Juice in 2017 before he blew up, the song was recorded when Juice in SK, he went to their office etc. Thou, the song been released later. BTS is very specific on their timeline.

[@lee26ann5]

jay park is that guy who got slapped by Brian Ortega

[@monimuppet6132]

JPark plays both sides, picking up and putting down his heritage whenever he thought it would suit him, like freaking JLo. He built a legit business and made listenable music; but his ambitions were bigger than his abilities and really thought he could just demand the top slot without the influence and impact. He imitates the shallowest definition of the genre and culture but didn't realize that only works for ⚪️ rappers in the US. He fell for the model minority okie doke, thinking that as long as he's not ⚫️, the fame and recognition would just be handed to him. Seeing as he was born and spent a significant amount of time in the US, he'd know better. I've got no sympathy.

[@NanciBK]

I agree with you about the Angel collab for Fast X. They threw everyone and the kitchen sink at it to build buzz for their film.

[@ruthfischer7615]

Actually they asked the actors who their current favorite musicians are.

[@NanciBK]

​@@ruthfischer7615 That doesn't mean they were still not doing exactly what I said. Who chose Jimin as their favorite?

[@Stefi.Kitsune]

>_< Coming from an older kpop, kmusic fan, Jay Park talking about authenticity is nuts. His older songs has some bobs but it's music that are just vibey, not something you go to for substance or to to hear anything profound. I have respected that he's managed to stay around and build up business but he just cannot accept that he is not this massive historical figure and thinks too highly of himself lol. Also at times I feel like he tries to jump onto 88 rising and take credit for asian hip hop artists growing in the US. He's conveniently dropped Korea and the US where it fits him and in his label and artists he opts to fully embrace cultural appropriation in the worst ways despite at the core of it, he is AMERICAN. He fully knows what it is. The DNA remix thing is a prime example. He could have fully gone the route of talking about being Korean American and explored his identity crisis and had his artists go that direction but it went into this weird culture vulture direction for no reason. I don't say that lightly as a person who is Chinese jamaican, where we frequently export culture and like cultural appreciation. And he constantly inserts himself with bts and fully does it for clout.... I also just want to say in Korea, Jay Park's rap is made fun of as a joke because of the writing and his Korean wasn't good... IU gets more rap cred.

[@user-to7qk5nf1j]

this was HILARIOUS 😭😭

[@pointycat6618]

6:01 the music got me cryin 😂😂

[@heathermurray7130]

Yay! Glad you are back. Missed your videos and this was a great one to come back with. Had me laughing right along with you. On another note, I received a BTS bucket hat on my birthday and I thought of you! Once you declare yourself ARMY we will need to get you one for your collection. Glad your KZbin "hiatus" was a productive one.

[@liss2503]

Like others said Juice Wrld was alive when they collaborated for the song “All Night” on the BTS World soundtrack.

[@realme0218]

Yesss!! I’ve been waiting for you to watch this! 😭💀💀

[@majag5117]

Juice Wrld did a song "All Night" before he passed away. The song came out in the middle of 2019, If I'm remembering it correctly. Juice passed away at the end of 2019. The Suga X Juice collab was in 2021.

[@blacpearlproductions6715]

It takes another level of arrogance to do this😂

[@ahanaghana1084]

Yes juice world was alive at the time the song was recorded.

[@nickismith8611]

i haven't been able to bring myself to watch his full interview with hobi. i saw one clip and cringed so hard i closed it out

[@andredayyy613]

Happy for your happy busy-ness!!

[@4EVERWITHBTS]

27:30 All Night was released when Juice World was still alive. Girl of My Dreams was after his passing ARMY correct me if I’m wrong

[@kinji6127]

I just think sometimes artists need that confidence but thats not confidence thats being Arrogant lol

[@anitralarae_mahjacat]

Have you seen The Host, about the Monster in the Seoul? That's also Bong Joon Ho. Parasite is BRILLIANT.

[@magdalenagabrowska8169]

Hmm Juice wrld was alive when they did "All nights" song with Suga and RM, but wasen't alive with "Girl of my dreams" with Suga, the producer asked Suga bc they worked before and bc Suga rap about mental health and ww know Juice story so they thoght it would good fit as feature...

[@an_9823]

27:21 I checked, and ‘all night’ came out few months before his death (june 2019) ‘Girl of my dreams’ tho came out in 2021, so after

[@milissadaniels2727]

Juice collabed with BTS before death as well

[@Yoonji9212]

I knew about Faker before I knew about BTS tbh, and I'm not a gamer and I didn't even played LoL in my life 😂 Never hears of Jay Park before I started watching reactions to BTS and I saw people reacting to K artists.

[@sajanilbh26]

Juice was alive during the first feature. He died around the time of the second feature with Suga. I like Jay but he makes being a fan embarrassing. He tries too hard.

[@quatzxice]

Bora saved the best til last. Jay Park forgets that BTS roots are hip hop and authenticity. He just loses on all points based on that. Missed you but happy that you're busy doing what you love. Best wishes on all your endeavours. 💜

[@eileencritchley4630]

All the best with the 2 show's hope they go really well and are extremely well attended. Sorry if I was able to drive I'd come up but at moment I can't drive due to having dizzy spells not good if I'm driving up to Scotland could cause a dangerous accident situation.

[@mariaespinosa4329]

Lol I love her…. Goofy and pretentious 😂😂😂😂…..I’m dying!!!

[@sunnimastewin6032]

Boracity a real one 😆💜👏 tells it how it is and can also show receipts...👀💜

[@cg558]

Armys love dragging Jay Park. When a live stops because a server gets overloaded we say. "F Jay Park. He chewed the wires." Its a standing joke that whatever goes wrong is his fault.

[@shanekasydial]

Yes Juice was alive at the time of the "All Night " collab

[@fy3845]

Juice Wrld All Night was done back in 2019 when Juice Wrld was just getting big. Girl of My Dreams was done after Juice Wrld had passed away.

[@diatima]

I've known of Jpark since back in the day when he was with 2pm.. never liked the group and never really followed Jpark, but somehow I stumble on him against my will 🤣 The thing about him is that he certainly has achieved a lot... For himself! He was ostracised in the past for being american, he then left his group (or was kicked out?) and made a name for himself, building his own record label and grinding his way up. That's all very cool, and i'd ay he's very well known now within the Korean hiphop scene but that's it. I'd say he's on par with Zico in terms of reputation over there? There are much more famous and downright legendary figures like Tiger JK over there, JPark doesn't even come close. He's not really known abroad, people don't associate Korean hiphop with Jpark, that's just ridiculous. Him saying this is preposterous, and just insulting to all the artists who actually managed to make an impact, including the many who have achieved much more than him, within korea! I need jessi to go humble him, she's good at it and he needs it.

[@ttyoon7389]

Now that mad comments are telling you Juice collabed with the rapline in early 2019, you should definitely check that song out. It's called "All Night" but j-hope isnt on it, it's just Suga Rm and Juice. To be completely honest I dont think the second song Suga did with Juice Wrld after he passed is as good as All Night. It's not bad at all but you can tell the boys had a lot more raw musical chemistry when they recorded the first one. All Night just feels more authentic. If you wanna hear joon rap about hunching All Night is the song for you 🤣

[@Tkara8]

Juice wrld did collab with BTS’ rapline in May of 2019 months before he died but Yoongi was a feature on his posthumous album in 2021.

[@brownvirtue]

I love your reactions to boracity!

[@Jurnalist_]

Thank you!!

[@MsJanoli]

i love how boracity sounds like a lawyer that can defend me lol

[@megnicoleebilane]

Attendance Stay safe, positive and healthy Love and support from the Philippines ^_^

[@kinji6127]

See i agree with this Except 1 thing yes Bts has done Features with American Artists but so has Jay park.

[@andredayyy613]

Juiceworld was alive for All night and post houmous for girl of my dreams and not sure if that was in the works prior or not

[@purple428]

let me get my popcorn 🍿

[@jodyunapologeticallymewest9964]

That's Big Numarcus for ya!!! Always ready for the smoke!! Lmao!!!

[@morgaxc]

All Night with Juice Wrld was recorded before he died but i don’t know if he was alive when it was released (he mentioned ARMY in the lyrics so that’s how i know”

[@eileencritchley4630]

Oh knew them all except the Baseball player.

[@woozi_vert]

Like how the hell is Jay Park historic💀

[@RB-zw6ym]

All night bts song he was alive for that. I dont know wbout the other one though.

[@ralphy383]

This video, I knew watching you react to it would have me cackling 😭😭😭✋ Juice wrld was alive when they collabed on All Night for the bts world soundtrack. girl of my dreams was done posthumously.

[@TrueDawn1]

I cringed all the way but also vouldnt stop laughing at his almost brave silly😅ness 😳😳😳

[@heatherlyncleare1706]

It was a joke because the show is part comedy. 💜🇧🇸

[@RB-zw6ym]

Im a gamer so of coirse i know faker!!!! Lool. I watch twitch alot and even though i mever watch him, i know his name i know he from sk. He has impact. Now jay park, bruh i only know one of his songs and ther than that, most of my o5her knowledge is him saying dumb shady stuff about bts. The difference is obvious!!! Also love the new word beg! Gonna use that now cause that dude is 100% a beg!!!

[@neirouzchaabani3844]

bp is the new jay park DELULU IS THE SOLULU

[@Litzth5406]

La verdad me aburre cada “escándalo” que sale de ese grupo que por “alguna extraña razón“ siempre está relacionado con bts (todos sabemos que esa es la intención)

[@boraland969]

Jay park used to be kpop idol

[@kinji6127]

Ngl Jay park was very ignorant but people talking about it made this whole topic popular which made him recognized by people alot more even tho its hate Tbh if u look at it the other way he was kinda smart he took the Context to this Subject to get more people to react lol it kinda worked but not in a good way.

[@fatia4076]

Juice world was alive when they did all night

[@reiday209]

I love Kai so much😂

[@girlscott411]

Damn, how many tabs do you have open?!🤣

[@PJ6342]

Juice world was alive l think he did song with Suga

[@beetothetee]

The audacity of Jay Park talking about “authenticity” in k-hip hop when his whole career is full of appropriation, unearned arrogance, and cheesy, misogynistic lyrics. 🥴 (gems like “yo girl a turkey on my d*ck, gobble gobble”) He’s an American who couldn’t cut it in the USA so he took his small-fish ass and went to an even smaller pond in Korea. He doesn’t appreciate the artistry of hip hop, nor does he care to do the work to understand it- he just knows he can get away with his caricature of a performance because his audience isn’t familiar with legit hip hop and doesn’t have many (actually talented) people to compare him to. Like, I’m a great dancer if you have no idea wtf dancing is. 😒 (I wrote this comment before the video was finished so a lot of this was said, but I didn’t want to waste my comment so I’m posting anyway lol) Anyway- he annoys me but I find comfort in the fact that Jay Park will never, ever be as unbothered as he desperately pretends to be. 😌

[@natechavez437]

Wasnt juice wrld alive when they did a collab?

[@NanciBK]

You and Bora double timing the salt is one of my favorite things. LOL Jay Park is a weak ego manchild who has made himself into a punchline with his whining and grasping. It's not even good rap braggadociousness. It's just sad.

[@meriAnne3376]

It would be proper to mention that this is a reaction to a video in your title.

[@Jurnalist_]

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