why most armys don't like kpop [Reaction]

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@calimade11 Жыл бұрын

I use to feel bad that I didn't "stan" any other group. Honestly, I enjoy ALOT of kpop and generally like a lot of other groups, I just do not stan them as I find myself only liking a few songs. I will watch other groups' music videos because they are amazing, but they are not the type of songs I would download or put in a playlist I just cannot get into their music as a whole, no one's discography has come close to BTS, and that is what I am here for, the music.

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

I respect it.

@calimade11 Жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ s/o to that T. rex reference also, I mess with battle rap 😂

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

@@calimade11 you know the vibes. 😤 ball game. !!!

@brelynn1236 Жыл бұрын

same I casually listen to & like other k groups but I only "stan" bts

@sarkavajnerova3123 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I like some songs from other groups but its here and there. And mostly boy groups, i dont like most girl groups stuff. Example is Ateez. I love Deja vu but its only song i heard from them i like. Its like that with most groups for me. Exept BTS i would say i like Enhyphen most, then Stray Kids and some TXT music. And Taemin. I love Taemin. But rest is just casual.

@carolinesch. Жыл бұрын

Army Twitter is seriously the funniest place ever like our memes are the best😂

@aishwaryaahirrao Жыл бұрын

Twitter Armys are superior! My absolute favourite..they are hilarious and sassy🧎🏻‍♀️

@ebereokolo2662 Жыл бұрын

Fr fr😂😂

@asiasalh3274 Жыл бұрын

For real 😂

@squishycoveswena Жыл бұрын

It's been so long and yet Taechwita still sends me

@ysabelleortiz4138 Жыл бұрын

sometimes its toxic there but i choose to stay because armys always make me laugh in their posts... and i made a lot of army friends there too... armys always share their thoughts, ideas, artworks, stories, actually anything that's funny... we comfort each other too when someone needs it... i learned a lot of things too cuz i can see different opinions from different people... im there since 2017 and its actually fun to be there.. my favorite part is whenever we wait for 12am kst then nothing drops hahahah

@ralphy383 Жыл бұрын

😂 The kobe and kwame meme... yeah armys are everywhere lmaoo. Boracity is very shady 😂. Armys are generally like this. We got strong opinions and are very political people. A lot of it comes from bts's music . People like me who werent political before tend to become more politically involved and outspoken after listening to bts. I had a roommate who had social anxiety, who within a year became more confident and sassy after listening to bts. 😂😂😂 Who thought music could have that much influence ehh??? And bts songs are pretty simple to listen to and fun sounding. But after going through the whole discography you will see the whole thing was about bts growing up and that story somehow results in the audience also growing up accidently. That's why armys are so adamant in saying bts aren't anything like kpop. Cus we gained something from it personally and being grouped with an industry that doesn't value growth (rm said this same thing in an interview) is insulting.

@BAMMIE7613 Жыл бұрын

that too mainly on twt. we are in every corner of twt🤣🤣😂

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

Army's are the general public too we have other things we love too 😂😂💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. I personally like many Kpop groups for their music, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there.

@boraland969 Жыл бұрын

BTS IS NOW THE ONLY GROUP THAT CHARTED ON THE HOT 100 AS A GROUP AND AS SOLOIST😭💜💜 SO PROUD

@boraland969 Жыл бұрын

@@user-Yong07 name them

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

@@user-Yong07 read again the comment Just bts as a group and all 7 charted on hot 100

@boraland969 Жыл бұрын

@@Kookiepookie2025 she disappeared🤣 THE NEXT BTS IS BTS 💜

@cieradivens3934 Жыл бұрын

ARMYs do listen on both KZbin and Spotify but not necessarily to make them equal, that’s just what happens. Like when I’m home I tend to listen to music on KZbin and if I’m out then it’s Spotify and I guess it evens out. Then, like she said, there are songs that have higher Spotify than KZbin which is something you don’t typically see with other groups.

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

I don't stream on yt often mostly I listen to music when I'm out 😂 bc mv visual is an accessory for me

@madonnamontejo Жыл бұрын

same too. youtube at home spotify while driving. all about BTS😁 i do listen to ahter artist as palate cleanser then BTS again. 😏

@eileencritchley4630 Жыл бұрын

@@madonnamontejo KZbin at home when I'm relaxing and also spotify when home but doing something like housework, working from home designing something for one of my customers.

@utkarsharohit4928 Жыл бұрын

Same for me !! KZbin when I'm relaxing and Spotify when I'm traveling, working, doing chores !!! I can enjoy BTS both ways 🤩

@carolinesch. Жыл бұрын

Also the whole "armys don't give others a chance", Like we watch the same award shows with other acts performing and if like something I hear I check it out and If I don't then I don't.

@aishwaryaahirrao Жыл бұрын

Exactly lmao

@crystalsnow1138 Жыл бұрын

You are correct.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there. I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@phaedra5283 Жыл бұрын

Boracity learn savagery from Jin, Suga and Namjoon with a sprinkle of sass from Jimin.🙃🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

@leticiam6727 Жыл бұрын

😜🔥😩💜🤣👏🏾

@NanciBK Жыл бұрын

And Taehyung! He can be a savage too.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@phaedra5283 Жыл бұрын

@@NanciBK I understand what you are saying but her channel name alone let's you know it's a BTS exclusive channel. That would be like a channel being BP exclusive but people want you to talk about New Jeans.

@NanciBK Жыл бұрын

Hi. You replied to the wrong person. 😊

@IThink2Much Жыл бұрын

The problem with the kpop industry on the whole is that they have made it where the idols are disposable. Their careers are generally short-lived and brand new groups are debuted constantly to replace the groups who go into the military or who are falling out of favor. There is no long-term loyalty to a group. When one disbands, fans just move on to another. Fans see kpop groups as interchangeable. As Boracity pointed out, music isn't that important in that industry. So, when Bang PD put together 7 passionate boys who wanted to be real artists, it changed everything. And you can tell the difference. Everyone who has collaborated with them (including Taeyang of Big Bang who recently featured Jimin in a song) has talked about how passionate they are and how much they put into their performance. This is why BTS has not only survived a decade in the kpop industry, but also thrived and outgrown it. Kpop fans and the media expecting ARMY to do what other kpop fans do and stan other groups just don't understand that BTS is not interchangeable like other groups. I might listen to some other songs from other idols, but I won't put in the effort to support them the way I do with BTS. Our guys are just something on a whole other level.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own.

@MsSaby97 Жыл бұрын

11:30 that 'kpop jurnalist' was trolled and memed sooo hard by ARMY, it was hilarious to watch all the versions of: "don't just support and cheer for your favorite football team! You need to check out all of the other football teams and support them too, don't live in your own bubble of your favorite team without knowing what is out there" So I have been listening to kpop since like a year or two after I got access to internet; so I think from around 2010. But here is the thing: I only put a kpop playlist on and listened to it for like a month, and then I moved to listening rock for a month, pop for a month, ... basically i just cycled genres every month or so when I felt like it. I rarely even bothered to check out the Group name nevermind the song name (this was not only true for kpop but also for other genres haha so i can't really list who i was listening to since i only know the songs not the artists). So I usually listened to kpop for maybe a month or so a year while i was studying or cleaning or something and I remembered that kpop exists. But in 2016 after graduating and having to be an independent adult after the heaven that was high school, ... I was truly struggling. And I got recomended some random funny BTS videos, and then some music video theory videos, and when I went to check out their music I realized: "oh I know all of these songs, I love all of these songs, I had no idea they were all from the same artist". And i checked out their lyrics. The Agust D mixtape had just dropped at that time and wow, that was the first time in my life that the music i heard wasn't just catchy, but it was actually relatable. Their vocal line song from their Wings album called "Lost" perfectly described how i was feeling and gave me hope. Because of BTS I joined a fandom for the first time in my life and it was just so supportive and helpful. In 2017 because of them I met my best friend with who I still talk DAILY. I have always been the worst at talking with people in text form, I just can't do it.. but with her I still text daily. I have made so many friends (in person) because of them. Like I do still listen to kpop (but I do prefer the bands to the groups), but I NEVER (except BTS, TXT and bands) put some groups whole album on my playlist; I usually put like 2 or max 3 songs and even that is pushing it. And when i look back to my playlist of kpop songs from 2022 only 1 song .. yes ONE has lyrics/message that I like; others just sound good

@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын

Yes, i listen BTS songs and TXT songs too😊

@Department_of_Justice Жыл бұрын

Bts has so many diverse solid songs that I can go for a 3hr hike or drive with them handling my audio front to back.

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

That’s a hard task to do. BTS must have bangers

@9mmstella Жыл бұрын

RAIN IS THR PERFECT SKNG TK LISTEN TO ON A HIKE OR RSIBG DSY

@museofwind9004 Жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ duuuuudeeee... U can't even imagine HOW diverse their discography is. Listen from first album to last one, it's an EXPERIENCE

@valerie2842 Жыл бұрын

Last year i did a four hour drive from Tucson to Flagstaff and listened to BTS the whole way and still had plenty of their music for the drive back!

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

@@valerie2842 I would’ve fallen asleep.

@biru-kelabu-0821 Жыл бұрын

4:33 - about how the singers hold the mic like rappers, LOL. Remember that BTS started as a hip-hop group, and three of the singers (Jimin, V, JK) are younger than the rappers and look up to them and are their biggest fans. They're so hyped whenever the rappers are practicing their songs, it's so cute. So I think that's part of why the singers copy the rappers in this aspect. J-hope once said that in the early days, the rappers would give a list of hip-hop songs to the singers to listen to.

@jessicapierce3027 Жыл бұрын

3:20 "and when did we sign up?", exactly! I explored kpop for a couple of years prior to first listing to BTS, and though I heard some songs I liked I didn't find any artist or group I fell in love with. Much like Western music for the past 20 years, there just wasn't a lot out there I was connecting with. I follow and support BTS for many reasons, and many K-acts don't have what BTS has. It's ridiculous that anybody would think that just because you like BTS you automatically like all K-pop. Not all music is created equally, which region it comes from has no basis on which fans they draw in. Even if you look within the Kpop community there are fans of Boy groups who wouldn't be caught dead supporting a Girl groups and vice versa, but nobody is chewing off their heads for it.

@amiii5292 Жыл бұрын

18:48 nah that‘s not the case. Of course, we as fans will push them on many platforms, but their numbers matches EVERYWHERE. For example on Spotify they have much higher monthly listeners then any other kpop group despite having a not as big playlist reach as many other superstars with similar monthly followers. Same goes to the numbers of likes on every platform (have in mind that you can have just one like per account). Their fandom is estimated to be in the millions. Some sources estimate 60-90 mio fans worldwide (in 2019/2020 so even before Dynamite!) and Army is considered as the most powerful fandom from an artist. BTS were acknowledged by Guiness Worlds Records for the most followed group in 2021. They sell stadiums of 60-100k capacity everywhere in minutes! They broke livestream concert records with people who watched from 191 countries, that means in nearly every country! Have in mind that there is more outside of the West. If you have numbers from all over the world, then it is easier to reach such numbers that BTS has. Based on some statistics you can also find every profession in that fanbase. I think you underestimate Army a little 😉

@carolinesch. Жыл бұрын

Army is everywhere like the tweets about that Army that won an Emmy😂

@Da_NG Жыл бұрын

Who? I never heard about that? 😅 Sorry I’ve been in a provincial part of Mexico visiting family for the past 8.5 months and the reception is either not good or non-existing at times. Would really appreciate if you could respond 😬😁

@rafaelsmith5737 Жыл бұрын

As a music lover I watch other Kpop acts too like IU, TXT, Stray Kids, Black Pink, etc. However, I only watch their MV's one time and never come back. But when it comes to BTS, not only do I watch the MV, but also watch and research the lyrics as well and the explaination videos and then their live performances next. And if there's an interview or they have live stream on how they created the song, I also watch it. It doesn't even matter if it's 2 hours long. Next, if there are new reaction vids about BTS I would also click it without second thought. For me wtching BTS contents doesn't feel like I'm wasting any time at all, however if I watch other groups like Black Pink, it does feel like I'm wasting my time. So by that example, you can clearly tell if you enjoy something or not.

@xiBlaaZeD Жыл бұрын

100%same thoughts 😊thank you I don’t need to write it 💜

@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын

Its ok, but, please, no black pink😭🤣 I dont understand why blinks(blinks - fandom of black pink) listen their song if even they dont have deep meaning in songs and almost every their song sounds the same. Blink just interested in visuals of girls and visual effects of music video?so, in my opinion, they dont interested in music, they like just visuals, beauty of girls😂

@leticiam6727 Жыл бұрын

Sameee

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

Same feeling it feels like wasting my time mostly

@ilikethat775 Жыл бұрын

yes true , when i watch run bts tv show i feel like i'm not wasting my time and also every contents bts make and army make ! but for most of the kpop groups i watch only their songs like shinee , i'm say i'm a shawol but i only know some songs and i support them ! or txt at the beginning ( i'm a moa's since their debut ) i watch alot of content but at a moment i dropped out and i follow more their songs and funny tiktok than the tv show they make ! also i still don't understand the hype for the new girl group , it just my opinion but i don't really like new jean or aespa and many more girl group because i don't listen to them much , i don't have to force me to like a group or a song , like txt sugar rush ride song i'm mixed between two things , this is good and this is not good , i don't know why ...

@pambarab5506 Жыл бұрын

I found Kpop in 2010, so I listen to a lot of other groups. But BTS is the only group I stan, and Army is the only fandom I belong to. I left other fandoms in 2015/2016 because of the fan wars. I watch MVs because they are amazing, but my playlists of Kpop (excluding BTS) are very short. There are some excellent songs, but they are few and far between.

@ysabelleortiz4138 Жыл бұрын

for me.... i found kpop during 2nd generation of kpop groups but when i got to know bts after watching them perform at mama.. i got amazed to the point that i searched a lot of things about them, watch videos and then i decided to to stan them... so im an army since 2016 😊 im a casual listener to other groups songs too but its only a very few of them too...

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups for their music, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there.

@lab6651 Жыл бұрын

A quick clarification. The numbers of mv views to audio only weren't comparing KZbin to Spotify. Those numbers are ONLY from You Tube. They are comparing the views from You Tube's mv vid to You Tube's official audio only stream (mainly used on KZbin music, but can be found on general KZbin as well).

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

Yes it tells you the difference between the interest in mv and music only armys don't match bts's numbers on purpose 😂

@carolinesch. Жыл бұрын

There are idols with different backgrounds like korean but not born in Korea, japanes, chines, thai etc The girl you asked about is Bahiyyih she is mixed, her mom is korean her dad is german/American I think. Funfact her brother Kai is in TXT a Boygroup also under bighit the same label as bts

@tinarangel34 Жыл бұрын

No his father is brazilian

@anaclgarcez Жыл бұрын

Their father is a German descendant born in Brazil so he probably has dual nationality...

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

Definitely! There's a lot of foreigners in Kpop. NCT alone has over 13 foreign members from America, Canada, China, Japan, Thailand, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan! There's also several mixed members such as Bahiyyih from Kep1er, Hueningkai (her older brother) from TXT, Lily from Nmixx, Danielle from NewJeans, Kyla from Pristin, Nancy from Momoland, Jeon Somi who's a soloist or Vernon from Seventeen who are all half Asian half White for example!

@staterabird2330 Жыл бұрын

Oh God....I used to get into arguments with people from other fandoms so many times in the early years. And they always brought up that ARMYs are toxic and closed-minded because we don't listen to other groups. Later they called us mean and toxic because we voted for BTS in award shows and we didn't let other groups win. Because others worked hard aswell, they deserve it too, etc. My opinion didn't change. When their message can move me emotionally just like BTS' message did since their debut, then i will support other groups. In the Kpop ondustry everyone looks good and every act dances. There is nothing special about that, they just do what is basic requirement by the industry. For me, that's not enough. I'm a dancer, i do appriciate a good preformance on stage, and it's still not enough. No wonder the fans who are here for the music first, will prioritize artists over preformers, who most of the time have nothing, or very little to do woth the music they are associated with. And i might be mean and all to see it like this, but i can't feel bad when BTS and ARMY "don't let others win". Because the idols chose this after all. They signed a contract knowing they probably won't write music, but preforme it. If they wanted to write music, there are many labels in SK who are willling to give the artistic freedom. But you probably won't get mainstream automaticly, unlike at the Big3, because they will make a big fuss out of every group they can, even if it's not well deserved. As someone who wants to get into the music industry, you have the choice to sign to whichever label you want to (if you are talented enough of course). This is the first reason. Second of all, kpop fans can't expect me to give sympathy to the industry and the fans who openly looked down upon a group of passionate teenagers, just because they could. And i'm not just talking about the keyboard warriors here. Grown ass people, who somehow took joy from embarrasing and insulting kids. It's pathetic and distgusting in my eyes, and i don't think i will ever forget it. And those who did it? Please reflect on yourself. You won't look more powerful or coller in anyones eyes who have enough emotional intelligence to see how messed up this is. We ARMYs have such a bat realtionship with most of the kpop industry, and have so many bad memories about them, i don't think it can be fixed, honestly.

@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jennyHcH Жыл бұрын

100% agreed

@irmawatiagoesman2143 Жыл бұрын

Very agreed

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

Honestly yes

@Sam_70 Жыл бұрын

Oh dont remind me of that shitty excuse. The whole year they'll shade and insult us for "wasting our time" streaming and "mass buying" but when Nov comes they start manipulating armys and baby armys especially to "let others win", " everyone works hard", "they deserve awards too", like btch bts also works hard and they deserve it too? Do they think award shows are charity and awards ppl on who "works harder". Moreover, I stan bts not the industry. Idgaf whether the industry survives or dies?? Like stop directing what armys should and shouldn't do.

@maryannbaxter73 Жыл бұрын

I am of those ARMY who doesn´t like k pop. I have really listened to k pop to know if something appeals to me, but no. I haven´t found anything that makes my taste. I just happen to love BTS music. I really enjoy it so much. Me being a rock lover all my life.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@maryannbaxter73 Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I love rock and pop, specially old Brit pop, since I am a 50 year old lady I never liked rap but I enjoy BTS rap so much.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@maryannbaxter73 Interesting! I love rock and pop as well, although I'm a 22 year old Austrian girl in my case haha! If you're interested in checking out other groups or songs, maybe you'd like Dreamcatcher, they're a girl group that does mostly rock concepts such as songs like Vision, Boca, Scream, Maison, Odd Eye, Chase Me or Piri! Some other groups also have rock elements in their songs like TXT's Dear Sputnik, 0x1 Lovesong, Loser = Lover, Good Boy Gone Bad or Frost, Monsta X's Beautiful Liar and Shoot Out, Ateez's The Black Cat Nero, NCT 127's Kick It, WayV's Turn Back Time, EXO's MAMA, Stray Kids' Time Out for example!

@maryannbaxter73 Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko thanks

@junchoui Жыл бұрын

As a "vintage" ARMY, I have always, in my long life, only ever actively listened to one or two artists, passionately. Sure, every now and then, I'll hear ONE song I like by someone else. It doesn't mean I'll buy it or actively support it or the artist. It is was it is. Bora on fire today 🔥 🙌 😂😁💜

@fatia4076 Жыл бұрын

13:51 that girl is half Korean half german her and her brother are kpop idols her brother is from txt a group under bighit music and hybe the hyunings we call them

@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 Жыл бұрын

Multi will promote their unknown faves on BTS reaction videos

@ambushingwarmth8502 Жыл бұрын

@@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 the reactor literally talked about her 💀💀

@fatia4076 Жыл бұрын

@@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 calm your ass down I'm not a multi and btw go seek help if you need it or go outside it's not that deep he asked about the white idols in kpop and I answered damn shawty

@fatia4076 Жыл бұрын

@@ambushingwarmth8502 tell them from their user name I can see they are those cringe armys who stuck in their cringy fase

@yadiraurieta9910 Жыл бұрын

@@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 Bruh why are you up here getting mad at every little thing. You have already said shit in like 2 other comments. It's embarrassing.

@milissadaniels2727 Жыл бұрын

New Jeans is under HYBE umbrella and I love their 90's sound; they can actually sing and I love their concepts. One of the only girl groups I can STAN

@Danielle42381 Жыл бұрын

I just knew he would like New Jeans, BECAUSE they have that 90s sound and it is so different from all the experimental sounds that GGs are doing. I really like their music and am looking forward to seeing where they go next.

@ysabelleortiz4138 Жыл бұрын

in my case i like few of their songs too i listen some songs from twice, gidle, lessarafim too but that's it... I've been stanning bts since 2016 and i enjoy some of kpop groups songs too but im only a casual listener to those groups not a stan.

@madonnamontejo Жыл бұрын

same

@museofwind9004 Жыл бұрын

Can never understand all hype around their discography. The girls' songs are boring and im telling this as person who is in their 30s

@laurasosweet Жыл бұрын

okay then don’t listen?

@pjmbyul Жыл бұрын

I've been an ARMY going on 7 years now, and before BTS, I had no idea what K-Pop was. After discovering BTS, I discovered K-Pop, but BTS is the only K-Pop group I stan, the only group who I repetitively spend my money on, vote for, listen to daily, watch their non-music content, etc. Like boracity said in this video, I do listen to a lot of K-Pop or Korean songs, but I don't stan or follow any other groups. I don't otherwise give my time or money to them beyond casual listening the same way I would any western song that I come across and add to my playlist (but I have seen other acts in concert). The only only K-Pop groups whose music I actively like and listen to is TXT (under the same label at BTS and also share producers/songwriters with BTS, so that makes total sense, lmao) and TWICE. NewJeans is brand new but they're musically killing it because their catalogue so far doesn't sound like construction noise (which a lot of K-Pop does, and thus I don't listen to those type of trash K-Pop songs). It's very true that K-Pop fans have this hive mindset where if you like a K-Pop group, you have to like every K-Pop group and support the entire industry. 7 years ago, I thought you had to do that if you liked a K-Pop group, but then I quickly learned that BTS are different to everyone else and go above and beyond "K-Pop."

@livuniverse Жыл бұрын

My comment is about this line "It's very true that K-Pop fans have this hive mindset where if you like a K-Pop group, you have to like every K-Pop group and support the entire industry." so after watching kpop videos and blogs I found what they call "stan a company kpop" so they just stan groups of that company, but on the other hand all that people want Army stan their groups. I've seen stans between companies but are always Multi-Armys. Just to clarify I respect Multi-Armys, I just mentioned it because it seems to me that people of other fandoms not become Armys but some Armys become part of other fandoms, but maybe I can be wrong... I’m a baby Army and I don’t know much about it, so I just wondering how does it work… I'm also a casual listener of TXT, The Rose, G-idle and others but I don't call myself part of the that fandoms because I don't think is fair to do it, because when it comes to vote, buy albums or do stream I'm just do that for BTS and I think all groups deserves have loyal fans who can prioritize them. I'm not a person who has a lot of free time so I can only afford to stan one group and that group is BTS =)

@MsKaz1000 Жыл бұрын

@@livuniverse I agree other fandoms want us to support their faves but how many would do the same for BTS

@pjmbyul Жыл бұрын

@@livuniverse Yes, there are people called "company stans" who always flock after the idols of one particular company. The thing is, people seem to not understand the difference between a "stan" and a "fan." Watching content of a group, listening to their songs, or even going to their concert makes up a fan, but not always a stan. For example, I own TXT albums, I like most of their music, and I've been to their concert, but I don't stan them. I don't watch their non-music content, I don't keep up with what they're doing other than what I see on twitter, and I don't know much about them as people personally. If they're up against BTS, I'm picking BTS. If someone asked me to talk about TXT members, I wouldn't be able to say anything because I don't know. It's like how I'm a fan of Ariana Grande - I like her music and would love to see her in concert, but I don't stan her. I'm not buying her music or defending her online, because I don't care. Kpop "stans" tend to use the word "stan" when they're really just a fan. Like, do these "stans" have paid memberships for every group? Do they buy everything they release, actively stream their music, vote for them for everything, follow their every move, etc.??? No, they don't. Like I mentioned, I like TXT, TWICE, and NewJeans, but I don't stan them. I don't call myself a multi-stan. I'm an ARMY. I'm not a MOA, or a ONCE, or a Bunnie. I'm just an ARMY. Everyone is different. I feel like with BTS, BTS has the most only-armys who casually listen to other groups, whereas other groups have fans who claim to be stans.

@livuniverse Жыл бұрын

@@pjmbyul What you mention is very interesting and I'm glad you took the time to comment =) In my case I am a native Spanish speaker and I know the word "fan" because we use it in Spanish too but stan is a word which I wasn't familiar with and I mistakenly thought that it meant the same thing, but I see that it refers to different things (I need to improve my english). Anyway this is my first time stanning someone, actually before BTS I didn't even listen to much music, sometimes once or twice a week or sometimes not at all. Usually I listened diferent artist and diferents genders so I have no experience being a fan either. P.D. thanks for answering.

@pjmbyul Жыл бұрын

@@livuniverse "Stan" originally was a slang word that people took from an Eminem song about an obsessive fan, but it's used so much now that it became a real word, LOL so don't worry about not knowing!

@ZariDV Жыл бұрын

This video could not be more accurate. So much was covered and explained in detail. It's all a mess with how the press try to pretend like BTS has anyone in 2nd place to them who's actually comparable in scale. The sad part is that most ARMY are beyond excited to explore kpop after discovering BTS. To stumble across such a musical gem, the next logical thought is "Oh this is kpop? I need to find more kpop groups so I can add all of their songs." Except it's just sifting through stuff that you don't care for until you get enough disappointment and come to the realization that BTS isn't an example of how the rest of kpop sounds, they're the outlier that happens to live under the same umbrella. Then once we make our peace with that, we just settle into enjoying BTS without fussing much more about it. We like what we like and we mind our business.

@saraholadiran7005 Жыл бұрын

It is the "enough disappointment" 🥲for me cuz you are right

@TheTanniesAteXOXO 4 ай бұрын

This is so real

@darkprinceamal5623 Жыл бұрын

13:46 She is mixed, Korean, German, Polish and British. Her name is Huening Bahiyyih and she has an older brother in the industry as well, Huening Kai. Both are mixed idols.

@EyeHeartJimin Жыл бұрын

LOL I actually remember that tassia lady getting DRAGGED by armys for those tweets 😭😂

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

She was on a bender with those remarks.

@diatima Жыл бұрын

Well, I had no idea Army had been "expelled" from K-pop 🤣 I started listening to some kpop music years ago because I really like Korean hip-hop, and so I followed groups like 2NE1 and BigBang because they had GDragon and CL in it... But it was always an extension of me liking the hip-hop side of Korean music. I really think K-pop was made to bank on young students' need for escapism (the target ages used to be 8-16 yrs old), so much of it was pretty faces, catchy tunes, and becoming huge celebrities, not really about the music. Music was a medium to get started, but often the "idols" branched out into acting or hosting TV shows after their 3-5 yrs contract, becoming public figures. Things have been changing with the market, of course, but even now BTS is the only group that I can call myself a fan of. I like them as much as Linkin Park, Logic, Eminem, D'esparsray, Bewhy and others that make completely different music. I liked their work before I liked them as people, and I have no doubt that I will keep listening to their music regardless of whether they're active or not, simply because it means something to me, separately from them. You can't really have this kind of result with the way K-pop is built, because K-pop companies usually want many fans, not long term fans.. it can't be compared, and it makes total sense that BTS fans don't vibe with K-pop acts 🤷‍♀️

@joonie3lover761 Жыл бұрын

I found kpop because of BTS. There are other groups but I can't seem to like them more than BTS, so I stayed as an Army. BTS music is so diverse that you have different genres that you can choose on, so why look for more when the complete package is already in BTS? Apobangpo💜

@Lopez7689 Жыл бұрын

in this video they show a bit of IU She has a song with Suga and she is one of the most popular Korean singers. I don't follow her but I like a few of her songs and the fact that she writes her own songs makes me admire her a lot.

@vivalavtae9431 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jurnalist! When you’re ready to listen to BTS group songs, a really underrated one that I’d really recommend is DIS-EASE. It was produced by J-Hope and it’s very a very funky-hiphop-ey track that I think you’d really enjoy other than their really hiphop songs 😊 the song was released in the BE album which they released during the pandemic hence the title but it is also a play on words of having a hard time which is why the EASE is connected by the prefix DIS 😁 It’s really fun watching it live!

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

Coming up

@BrilliantHuman Жыл бұрын

4:53 I think it was a vlive...but JImin shared about how he had to get his front tooth fixed "again" because he smashed it with the microphone so I've wondered if most of them hold it that way as a guard to protect their teeth.

@jennyHcH Жыл бұрын

I was never very interested in music, I only listened to some jazz or rock songs, but with the pandemic I met BTs and I never imagined before that I would become a fan of a boy group, Kpop in general? I'm not interested and I don't want to listen to another group either. This is how i feel. Sorry for not being a kpop fan or giving others a chance

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

No need to apologize you listen to what you like and don’t feel bad for it.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups for their music, but I respect your opinion. My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@dinaarmymom9145 Жыл бұрын

8:43 is New Jeans "Attention."

@shaylablueangel Жыл бұрын

Commenting on the journalist that was tweeting. K-pop fans and journalists like her, are really into the notion that everything should be on the same level. In other words, if you listen to a group that is in kpop you should listen to all the groups. You prefer one over the other. I’m ARMY and this is what I notice a lot in the comment sections with BTS songs and other group songs. If you talk about one member, you will get a ton of comments about not just appreciating one because they all did great, or the “Is no one gonna talk about____?”. This is where Korean ARMY and other countries ARMY clash the most. That’s the type of thinking from being in the k-pop fan, but that’s not how, (speaking about Americans) do things. We don’t have to complement every person because we complemented one. If something stood out or something you saw you liked the most and then you comment. They take it as your saying you don’t like the other members. I see that a lot! I’m thinking it might be coming from Korean ARMY and maybe some others that are following along because they think it’s true. They way they have ran the k-pop industry doesn’t work in other countries because that’s not how other countries are. BTS’s is based off of music, they hit all genres, they have amazing lyrics, music videos are awesome, talent, they have by the millions, and they are great people. BTS is the only group I listen to live, I might listen to a couple other groups, but that’s just within these last couple months. But I have been disappointed so I’m not watching them. I really don’t like how the K-pop industry is run, what they do to these men and women and how they just let the fans decide their fate, and how they treat like property and not people. It’s very disrespectful, sad, down grading, relentless, physically and mentally unstable.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. I personally like many Kpop groups for their music, but I respect your opinion. What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS. My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music and lyrics resonate a lot with me and EXO, Shinee, NCT and Seventeen are amazing live, especially in acoustic songs and ballads!

@mariabaillet Жыл бұрын

in army twt we have a lot of black and poc armys and honestly they're the funniest people lmfao, they are the ones that use those memes

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

The vibes are real. 😂😂

@ellanextdoor8060 Жыл бұрын

I didn’t have a problem with other kpop groups beforehand. I didn’t vibe with their music but I was able to give groups a chance but now after the way some artist and nearly all of their fandoms are so trashy towards BTS and armys I just don’t bother with any part of them.I listen to BTS and go straight back to my western artist.

@asiasalh3274 Жыл бұрын

Yup

@livuniverse Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, same for me. I’m a baby army but after I see that kind of comments from others fandoms. It feels very bitter just to think that I’m gonna help the fandoms that are attacking my boys.

@spainana Жыл бұрын

you are a smart purple blooded💜

@marijkesanistam380 Жыл бұрын

Same here ..Touche ,💜💜💜🇸🇷

@lealarsen2017 Жыл бұрын

same the toxic fandoms are insane. i had to stay away from twitter. but even om KZbin i see video relation's to bts is other groups. the algorithm only recommend kpop and it´s so annoying because bts is not like the others and i dont want to listen to that. it´s even worse when my favorite KZbin reactors start reacting to other groups to. I have unsubscribed a lot of them. it´s like BTS is their stepping stone until they are convinced bts is good. they something else but when they react to other kpop songs they say all the songs are good. that is where i draw the line. you DONT like all songs in the world so why are these people liking all kpop. so shady

@elisiagoncalves6773 Жыл бұрын

8:40 - the song is called Attention, by New Jeans. They debuted back in July 2022 (6 months ago) and are a rookie group under HYBE. I've really been enjoying their discography because their MVs and sound are just refreshing from what the industry is currently offering. And it looks like they are being well recieved in korea too because of that differece/uniqueness. The group is called New Jeans because jeans are considered a timeless piece of clothing that will always being used. The name of the group New Jeans is also a play on 'new genes', thus being a girl group that will bring in new genes and usher a new generation/culture in the idol industry.

@bluehourtarot Жыл бұрын

I wonder who Boracity is as well. There have been gatherings of Academics studying BTS’s rise and I wonder if she is involved in that. People from all over the world. So interesting.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@bluehourtarot Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I have watched quite a few more since this one and I see where you would feel that way. I mostly appreciate the technical research she does. She is very smart. Thanks for pointing that out though. I get it.

@shanajeangedeon9060 Жыл бұрын

The girl you pointed out is mixed, that might be why you could tell that she wasn't fully Asian. Her and her brother (who is also an idol) are half Hawaiian.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

On the topic of songs about meaningful themes in Kpop, here's some about political, social and mental health issues: Yoon Mirae (Tasha) - Black Happiness (fighting discrimination & growing up with a intercultural identity in Korea) Miss A - I Don't Need A Man (celebrate the independence of women) Loveholics - Butterfly Jaurim - Deviations F(x) - Red Light (political commentary abiut the poor way the South Korean government responded to the Sewol Ferry tragedy) Sunny Hill - Princess and Prince Charming (song criticises how people get calculative when searching for love) Big Bang - Loser (ugly side of fame & feeling isolated) Twice - Likey (pressures of social media & being perfect) Dreamcatcher - Maison (the effects of climate change) Day6 - Zombie (mental illness & inner darkness) B.A.P - Wake Me Up, Power & Badman (mental health, depression, anxiety, body image) Pentagon - Basquiat Ateez - Guerilla (sociopolitical ideologies of utopia and anarchist revolt against it) Dreamcatcher - Scream, Boca & Odd Eye (the topic of dealing and handling verbal and cyber bullying with Scream being in the perspective of a person being attacked and Boca in the perspective of someone who is protecting a bullied person) H.O.T - I-yah (adult's misstreatment of children) H.O.T - Warrior's Descendant (anti-bullying & the cover of the group Oneus changes the message to how you shouldn't fight violence with violence) Purple Kiss - Bye Bye Bully (song about bullying where the choreo shows the one being bullied becoming the bully and vise versa) (G)-IDLE - Tomboy, Lion & Nxde (touches on shattering the expectations and stereotypes of women's representation in society) NCT U - The 7th Sense (based off a book from 1984 & has double meanings connected to dreams/sleep (nct concept) & breaking out of facism via protest of a new generation (also NCT concept) NCT 127 - Mad City (song written by the members Taeyong & Mark pre-debut about the baseless hatred against them since their debut in 2016 & how they will continue to move forward & make music despite their words & the way they are bashed) AKMU - Hey Kid, Close Your Eyes (about children living in war zones) EXO - MAMA (about focusing too much on technology instead of human relationships) Mamamoo - 4x4ever (about cyber bullying) Sechskie - School Byeolguk (criticism of the educational system) Brown Eyed Girls - Sixth Sense (anti fascism) Girl's Day - Female President (political message about havin a female president) Girls Generation - Into the New World (political protests and demonstrations) Lee Hi - Breathe & Holo (mental health) Kang Daniel - Paranoia (mental health) Sunmi - Borderline & Noir (mental health) 2NE1 - Ugly (mental health & body image) Seventeen - Trauma (mental health, depression) Seventeen - Pop Song Shinee's Kim Jonghyun ft. Taeyeon - Lonely (mental health, depression, loneliness) Kang Seungyoon - Iyah Dynamic Duo ft. EXO's Chen - Nosedive WJSN - Happy Dreamcatcher - Piri (mental health, depression, anxiety) Glam - Infront of the Mirror (body image) Black Swan - Rainbow TXT - Crown (self-identity, pressure of being like everyone else & not fitting in) Hwasa - Maria Blackpink - You Never Know G-Dragon - Obsession (unhealthy obsession) Taeyeon - Fine SanE - Counselor Amber Liu - Borders Stray Kids - Mirror & Insomnia Epik High ft. Sunwoo JungA - In Seoul CIX - Numb Taeyeon - Dear Me Stray Kids Changbin ft. Bangchan - Streetlight Ateez - Mist Monsta X's Kihyun - Youth

@poo5 Жыл бұрын

The only simple answer for why army's don't like other songs because we didn't have to.... BTS have every genre for everyone likes...and also they have amazing shows from RUNBTS to IN THE SOOP. And their live performances are epic...why doesn't we need anything...😂 BTS ARE THE WHOLE INDUSTRY for us...we are booked and busy....😌💜

@loredell Жыл бұрын

14:20 LOL, JK is the king of bucket hats... So much so that recently he forgot one in some official place and some guard tried to auction it online. He got caught and yadda yadda (he said he waited 30 days for the artist to claim it and whatnot, hilarious... *eyeroll*)

@imajinallthepurple Жыл бұрын

I've tried looking into other k-pop groups but apart from a few separate songs I honestly haven't connected with their music. It kind of felt fake, forced or just m eaningless. I think she makes a great point about the nationality. Just because you like one artist from a certain country that doesn't mean that you automatically like every artist from that country. The notion alone is honestly ridiculous. 🤦‍♀️

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@imajinallthepurple Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I totally agree with you that there're a lot of talented Kpop groups and there is actually a video or two of Boracity's that I do have a problem with but as a whole I think she makes great content. I have tried looking into other Kpop groups but apart from a few separate songs I honestly couldn't connect with their music. Definitely not to the same degree anyway. And I'm very sensitive to voice pitches so especially the girl groups are a no-go for me (though if I had to choose one then Mamamoo is pretty good). Out of a long list a few other boy groups have made it to my playlist though, such as SHINee (I looove Onew's voice), Enhypen, Big Bang and especially TXT but only a few very select songs from them while I honestly haven't found a BTS song that I disliked yet (excluding a questionable collab or two 😅). There's just something indescribable missing that BTS has. I think sometimes the stars just inexplicably align and create something that rises above the rest. There's a reason that the BTS fandom is bigger than most other Kpop fandoms put together but I think that reason is different for every one of us. Hope that makes sense?!? 🤷‍♀️💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@imajinallthepurple Interesting! If you ever want to, I could try to recommend you some groups or songs according to your taste and maybe you'll find something else you might like or maybe you won't and that's okay too. Curious, what is it about TXT that didn't appeal to you, or not as much at least?

@imajinallthepurple Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I think the way they've diplomatically yet outspokenly tackled some really heavy current issues combined with the deep, academic lyrical references is what attracts me to them. Plus their amazing personalities. I do follow TXT on Weverse as well but I think I'll just stick with BTS for now...with a little sprinkle of TXT on top. But thank you for the offer. 😊💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@imajinallthepurple I get totally get that! I'm a fan of many groups and have been for years now and I do my best to follow and support them as much as I can, some more than others admittedly, and it can be a bit challenging at times since there's so much content for each of them haha and I agree that there's something really appealing about songs with meaningful and touching lyrics, themes and topics. Thanks for replying and I hope you have a nice day, stay save!

@rauhinawinitana540 Жыл бұрын

While on youtube, BTS posts kept bombarding my home page feed last year. I became ARMY from watching their variety show Run BTS and their 'Behind the Scenes' content. Their journey captured me first, then I delved into their music. Their content captured me because it humanised who they were as individuals and as artists. My regret was not knowing them from the beginning. I am an R & B fan, and BTS R&B and Hiphop from their earlier days are my personal favourites. However, their other genres are also great because they have amazing messages and choreography, and catchy songs. Their hardships capture ARMY, because it shows 'real life' moments that we can identify with and empathise with. (Well that's how I feel at least). Their versatility in music opened my eyes to other genres as well. I am an old school gal, listening to Whitney, Luther, George Benson, Stevie Wonder, Temptations, MJ, Prince etc. BTS caught my interest and heart because of their story first, and then their music. They brought out the maternal instinct in me, which I believe all ARMY have a sense of, or need to protect BTS. Through BTS I delved into KDrama and other KPop artists, however, BTS is the only group of artists that I follow on a daily. My playlists are full of their music, but I also enjoy other Korean artists R&B music, which are added to my playlists. THEN reaction videos of BTS grabbed me, mainly because I love to see or hear others viewpoint of the group and solo releases. As shown in this video, I love my specific genre preference across the board. However, I am drawn to BTS because I respect their professionalism, work ethic, personalities, journey, and their artistry. I love their live performances, I adore their variety shows, and I appreciate their music because you can guarantee they have a song that will suit any emotion you're feeling on a daily. I believe Kpop in general is hmmmm visually captivating, however, their music by many groups sound the same, or the artists look the same (styling that is). Nothing truly differentiates them from others. However, there are definitely other groups/members that I listen to, but it's mainly their solo work that I listen to opposed to group music. (Again genre preference) I love how the seven members of BTS have individual 'sound'. Noone sings like Jimin, no one has the soul of V, no one has the range of JK, and Jin has a ballad voice to die for. (actually all four vocalists have crazy vocal range), and other KPOP rappers (to me) do not have the stance like RM, Suga and J Hope. The three just hit different, from lyrics, to collabs, etc and trust me I am not a rap fan, but with them I will listen to because their lyrics are my first go to. I've gone on a bit lol, I won't apologise though, because thanks to BTS; smiles came a little easier, or laughter was injected into my daily life watching them grow. Two elements, that we humans, forget to do sometimes. Lastly, thank you for your honest take on BTS as an artist yourself; more so on the music industry that I have very little knowledge about. I watch you mainly from your professional knowledge and experience feedback. These videos you react to may show a little bias lol, but overall, they are supported by some facts and truth (such as it is). Like you said, we can't rely on one form of information, there is some research required. But jeez, even I am overwhelmed at the work ARMY do. I am merely an ARMY that love BTS and their music. Thanks for your work though. Arohanui from New Zealand.

@vikzytoria Жыл бұрын

I love reactors and I think a lot of here do because it's watching people discover the things we did in real time. And watching that journey is so crazy and amazing. It's like living the thrill of those first days we fell into the rabbit hole and identifying the joy.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there.

@mervesnt Жыл бұрын

LMFAOOOO the nba tweet became really popular in army twitter 😭😭 cracks me up every time

@prunelle9068 9 ай бұрын

I wouldn't go so far as to say that music writing by idols wasn't a thing in Kpop before BTS. It was uncommon, but it did happen. Amongst the many reasons for why JYJ ended up leaving SM was that they never got to use their own music, and worse, whatever they wrote belonged to SM as per their contract. The two that remained behind were less interested in making their own music (at the time at least). I'd say the difference with BTS is the level of their involvment. That's way higher than anything seen before in Kpop (unless you count Seo Taiji as Kpop lol)

@milissadaniels2727 Жыл бұрын

They have a lot of mixed idols but they also bleach their skin.

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

😭😭 not the bleaching.

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ and whitewash photos and even edit their lips to be thinner if they are full (sometimes)

@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын

They bleach skin mostly in photos because of korean culture of beauty🙃i dont like when their staff bleach their skin🙁

@ann-archist7172 Жыл бұрын

I'm generally aware of other kpop because of the award show crossover but I don't stan other groups. There are some kpop songs I really like but I haven't found other groups to really follow.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

They make some valid points, but I disagree. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. As for groups and idols that write and produce their own music, there's Stray Kids for example who is entirely self produced in terms of music, lyrics and concepts as well as having chosen the members, name and logo with the songs being written by their 3Racha subunit that consists of Bangchan, Changbin and Han. Monsta X has Jooheon, I.M and Hyungwon write lyrics and produce songs and choosing concepts and themes, Soyeon from (G)I-DLE also writes and produces their music and chooses their concepts as well, the same goes for Seventeen where Woozi, S.Coups, Hoshi, Vernon, Mingyu, The8, Seungkwan, Bumzu and several others write and produce their music. Then there's several other Kpop artists that write and produce their own lines and solo music and concepts as well, such as EXO. TXT also has very meaningful lyrics and stories that a lot of people can relate and connect to, including the members and they too write lyrics and verses and are involved in the production. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own.

@1AngelNumbers1 Жыл бұрын

Army twitter memes are thee best

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

I still can’t get my head around Twitter.

@carolinesch. Жыл бұрын

I only got Twitter because of bts😂

@asiaha78 Жыл бұрын

I'm a BTS fan but I watch their music videos only once or twice. Mostly I listen on Spotify because my favourite songs are still their B-sides. I've listened to other Idol groups but they're not my taste.

@itsbonniefay2417 Жыл бұрын

Me too

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@itsbonniefay2417 I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@amiii5292 Жыл бұрын

8:03 😂😂 Army is everywhere and has a great dark humor at least on twitter. I listen to a LOT of music, many genres like hip hop, R‘n‘B, rock, metal, pop. It can also be a jazzy or classic song, disco, funk, soul, whatsoever when it‘s a good song. What really annoys me is how many kpop fans think about kpop and artists in general. When I became Army I was asked several times to listen to this and that kpop group and people got annoyed when I gave some a listen but it wasn’t for me. In no other genre (or industry or whatever you want to call it) I felt so much pressure. Kpop is seen as a group project and many fans seem to love repeating concepts and sounds. I had the feeling that many kpop fans like to switch groups like socks and that it’s all about the asthetics and cuteness but also the competition. For me artistry, personality, lyricism and message weight so much more to stan a group or else I‘m just a casual listener. There are also other great groups. I like for example some songs from Mamamoo (great singers) or Dreamcather (rock-ish but very experimental), but I only follow BTS closely for several reasons. Many kpop fans show the same traits that the kpop industry demonstrates like supporting short timespans of groups, interchangeability of groups/concepts/sounds, no lyrical depth, musical or conceptional repetition, stagnation of pesonal or artistic development or no artistry at all. Many kpop fans listen to a group and then start liking every other group from the same company, because they like the sound and because many groups from the same company have many similarities. But for me the groups consist of people or of artists and not of puppets with no soul who are interchangeable. Of course, not every kpop fan is like this, but it‘s definitely a majority. On top of that, a huge portion of Army is beyond the teenage years and have jobs or family, so there is no time to explore the whole kpop world and stan every group on earth. I’m 33 and have a demanding job in the field risk management and many hobbies. So my time is precious and BTS has everything what I need. There was a poll on twitter how many of Army were kpop fans and 80% said they listen only to BTS (and other music), but not kpop in general (but a portion gave other groups a listen, it just wasn‘t for them as in my case).

@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын

Agreed with you. The same for me🙂

@cieradivens3934 Жыл бұрын

There is an interchangeability in kpop where the idols have to fit themselves to a concept they don’t have a hand in choosing but many fans don’t mind. If you’re focused on visuals and just want a catchy song that’s fine but I want lyrics that mean something to me. Oh but I do like songs by mamamoo & dreamcatcher for the same reasons you said.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I definitely disagree. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. A lot of groups have creative freedom as well and write and produce their own music. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@JackInTheBox0294 I definitely disagree. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. A lot of groups have creative freedom as well and write and produce their own music. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@cieradivens3934 I definitely disagree. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. A lot of groups have creative freedom as well and write and produce their own music. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own.

@JFusion88 Жыл бұрын

I knew his reaction after seeing that dumbass tweet by OKU would just be... "What?... wtf?" and I was not disappointed HAHAHA

@sharonnelson3713 Жыл бұрын

I tried other K-pop groups and I may like one or two songs but I couldn’t get into them as a group or solo. However this goes the same for western artists as well. I stopped listening to music in the 90’s because the sound didn’t grab me. Rap became too crude and explicit for me just say to myself “I give up”. Through BTS I enjoy their rap. To me BTS is the total package. That article you mentioned in this video regarding Stans I agree with you that it’s a total bs. Korean media has been so unfair to BTS and they continue to do so, trying to undermine BTS success and talent. Why should armies support other K-pop stand if we don’t like their music! Why should we carry the burden of kpop? Hell no! Most importantly, other than Elvis and Queen, BTS has been the group that invoke so many different emotions, thoughts, insights and pure enjoyment and amazement! I love their personalities!

@dinaarmymom9145 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I listen to other Kpop groups but I don't stan them like I do BTS and for me that goes to their music, personalities but moreover their music. I still compare these other groups to BTS and that is probably not good however I like what I like. And I shouldn't be made to feel that I have to like other kpop groups. I listen to a lot of other kpop groups, K-R&B and K Hip Hop but they are songs here and there not all songs that that artist creates. 💜☺

@ysabelleortiz4138 Жыл бұрын

ohh this one... i actually tried to stan other group but i got bored after few months... its just like its not hitting like bts.. I've seen so many groups performed at award shows too while waiting for bts to perform but its really not just hitting even if those groups are dancing with sharp choreo.... I've start stanning bts 2016-2017 but i never got bored in their contents... i actually want more cuz its so fun seeing them giggling together

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@dinaarmymom9145 I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@ysabelleortiz4138 I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@vivalavtae9431 Жыл бұрын

ARMYs run twitter so of course we know everything going on on the bird app sir hehe

@lisebet1 Жыл бұрын

I'm loving watching your videos. I do think you kind of missed her point on the videos and audio streams matching up for BTS. It's not that ARMY go to listen on Spotify to "make the views and audio numbers match up" - it's that people love the actual music BTS makes so they listen with or without visuals. I stream BTS music all the time - for the sound. This is not true of most kpop (New Jeans being the exception for me and the only other "kpop group" who has a song or two in my playlists). BTS's music is great to listen to without the visuals as well so they are equally supported on both platforms vs. Kpop which is mostly supported for the visual elements not the auditory.

@lisebet1 Жыл бұрын

But I did love how you immediately "got" the issue with that kpop reporter's "take". I held my breath when you stopped the video because I wasn't sure where you were going but you were spot on :) Love the dialogue you're having here with ARMY as well. My journey through all of this in the past 2 years has been fascinating and it's interesting watching your exploration of them and their music and artistry.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@lisebet1 Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I like a broad spectrum across pop, classic rock, punk, country, classical. I've seen everyone from Bowie to The Who to Green Day to Gaga to Taylor Swift to Britney Spears U2 to Willie Nelson (I could go on). in concert (as well as BTS and Suga/Agust D last night). When I fell down the BTS rabbit hole, I tried other kpop groups (both listened and watched) because I wanted to be sure that I was not discounting them out of hand as I had prior to finding BTS. But none of them really connected for me. An individual song here or there is fine and there are a couple I like quite a bit but in general the music of the other kpop groups has not really been my cup of tea and that's fine. Everyone has their own preferences and that's what makes the world a wide and varied and interesting place. I too would say that of the other groups, TXT (and New Jeans) are the ones I like the best but even that is more about a certain song or two.

@spainana Жыл бұрын

Well I love rock music since like more than 25 years ago..... and now I'm an ARMY since 2017 and I pay Spotify and YT membership to stream their music only. Even I went to concerts in my country for groups like Aerosmith, Evanescence and La Ley (chilean group)......I never thought to travel to another country to attend their concerts how I did for BTS on Dec 2021(PTD LA) and went to 2 days in a row, I can't explain in words how that expirience made me feel, I think the only bigger moment in my life was when my daughter born. 😭My dream is to attend another concert after they reunite in 2025 and keep being an ARMY for life.아포방포(ARMY Forever, Bantang Forever)💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@spainana Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko Hello, well the first kpop group I listen was Fin.K.L because they were part of the first korean drama OST I watched looooooong time ago, then maybe I listened another Kpop in OST but nothing that I can remember right now, I do like other korean artist like Sung Si Kyung, Busker Busker (and now Jang Beom-june), CN Blue, etc they aren't Kpop, so about another idols group, around 2014-2015 I listened Big Bang and EXO, but after I start to be an ARMY ....I just don't find other groups in kpop industry like something I want to give my time, maybe TXT but I really don't want to deep in ther music because I am a full time ARMY, so all my support are for them. Jessi is another non idol artis I love and I find Mamamoo the best gg but still don't listen them regularily. P.S: I don't understand why you are copy & paste ur comment in other replies it looks like spam. Just let you know that I almost report you.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@spainana First of all, I'm sorry that my comments come across as spam to you and that you felt the need to almost report me, I totally understand that and that wasn't my intention at all. I like having discussions with as many people as I can and I'm genuinely interested in what they have to say about topics that interest me as well, so I tend to reply to several people and not just a few. Also, interesting selection! If you ever want me to give you recommendations based on your taste in music, I can totally do that and maybe one of them will catch or your interest or maybe they won't. It's just a suggestion and completely up to you. Thanks for the conversation and I hope you have a nice day. Stay save!

@femurray756 Жыл бұрын

THe song that you heard by he girl group, New Jeans, is 'Attention'. I don't listen to much K-Pop but this particular song caught my 'attention'. It's a good vibe.

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

It’s a catchy one for sure.

@amberpearce710 Жыл бұрын

They have some good songs, in my opinion. Hybe Boy and OMG are also really good

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@ejentabi Жыл бұрын

Suga once said, if you put bias aside, you will find BTS songs pretty good to listen to. So I do the same to try most of the other artists songs. I found earlier days of Black pink songs (before they collab with Selena Gomaz) were quite good. (G)idle is a black horse, Mamamoo also got some good stuffs. PSY's latest album is real good. Legends like Big Bang, Epic High, Jessie, CL (2NE1), SEO Taiji and Boys, Jaurim, Kuckkasten, Park HyoShin, Crush, IU are real good. All these artists create their own songs and doesn't feel like industry made. You might wanna give them a try.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@kristinapetronyte3812 Жыл бұрын

The man said “when did WE sign up? “😂😂😂 You Army cuz 😅

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

Man has no recollection of us signing up. They must’ve meant another army. 😂😂💜

@Anne-pd2hk Жыл бұрын

8:37 is New Jeans -- the only other kpop group I bought all current music from outside of BTS. They are under the same company as BTS. Some think they are super popular right now because of the company, but in reality it's for the very same reason you said -- they sound GOOD and (to me) are not that super slick, fabricated image that turns me off of so many other acts.

@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 Жыл бұрын

BTS is from bighit

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

@@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 same company (HYBE) and different label (Ador). What they have in common is HYBE doesn’t micromanage as much as some other big companies do

@forg_tful. Жыл бұрын

@@WE__BTS eh but newjeans are still micromanaged by ador though, it's min heejin's vision, not the members' vision - even though some newjeans members do write music.

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

@@forg_tful. I meant HYBE doesn’t micromanage the labels . I don’t know the details under that label, so thanks for adding that

@-amel-9896 Жыл бұрын

Being from the same company as BTS definitely got them a lot of visibility, newjeans just used that visibility really well. It's quite impossible for anyone no matter how good quality they are to be THIS big in such a short time if they were from a small company. Newjeans is like 3 months old. Maybe they would've gotten this big in a few years but definitely not this fast.

@cg558 Жыл бұрын

You read that journalist very well without even having the specific kpop context yet randoms were defending her viewpoint left and right and saying she had a point

@perijenee Жыл бұрын

they're usually mixed but white passing

@thegeekoutgirl Жыл бұрын

13:39 That's Huening Bahiyyih. Her mother is Korean and her father is German Brazilian. Her brother is Huening Kai from the kpop group TXT. The group she is in is Kep1er and the song on the screen is "Wa Da Da". It's pretty catchy and I heard it a bunch on tiktok. Also, there's a bunch of kpop stars who aren't ethnically korean. I've seen Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, and etc etc. Recently, I just saw a tiktok of a black girl who is in a kpop group too. I will say that she must have a hard time though. Since historically kpop hasn't been great towards people with darker skin.

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

That’s nice to see they have a rise in the diversity of an idol.

@Kou_nii Жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ and to get your question fully answered, she is Korean, born and rise in Korea not the case of her Brother Kai, who was born and live his early childhood in Hawaii

@thegeekoutgirl Жыл бұрын

@@Kou_nii I mean, if you want to be very specific, lol she’s ethnically part Polish, German, and British from her father and Korean from her mother. While being born in South Korea, she’s considered Korean American because although her father was born in Brazil, he was still American in nationality. Honestly, I find their family history very interesting ^___^

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

Agreed! There's a lot of foreigners in Kpop. NCT alone has over 13 foreign members from America, Canada, China, Japan, Thailand, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan! There's also several mixed members such as Bahiyyih from Kep1er, Hueningkai (her older brother) from TXT, Lily from Nmixx, Danielle from NewJeans, Kyla from Pristin, Nancy from Momoland, Jeon Somi who's a soloist or Vernon from Seventeen who are all half Asian half White for example!

@WhiteDove7 Жыл бұрын

i’ve listened to kpop songs in 2010’s but i didn’t find myself to stan them not until i came across bts.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@haidyhatem104 Жыл бұрын

8:55 its totally okay to make some songs without deep meaning (not all....) just for fun 4th gen bands like txt new jeans le sserafim makes really good fun songs but the thing is sometimes you really want good music quality and lyrics which bts absolutely has and they also have fun and very good music butter ptd and dynamite boy with love you'll find everything in bts

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

PTD and Butter have a deeper meaning than what you’re giving them credit for

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

And BWL. The only one that is truly just for fun imo is Dynamite and it’s the only one they didn’t have a hand in writing

@haidyhatem104 Жыл бұрын

@@WE__BTS i knoww that's why i wrote fun and good music they combine them. i just meant that they sound very fun more than other songs

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups for their music. What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@00786jojo Жыл бұрын

This's exactly how I feel about it, I don't hear kpop not really but BTS is my favourite group of all time😻the way they write, compose & make their own different voice & work from scratch is magical & unique💜💜💜💜 they're definition of original artists 🥺💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@00786jojo Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I've never felt like I belong to one genre, I love pop, R&b and classic music I listen to latin, american, french, indian and Arabic music, I think that's why I love BTS because they're so unpredictible & universal. And yes I love the good rhythm but the motivated lyrics is my addition. I mean it's amazing to have a music that makes U feel better, but finding one that makes U want to be better hit different 😻💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@00786jojo Interesting! I also listen to many different genres, especially rock, indie, traditional and experimental music and everything in between. Music is a huge safe space and comfort for me in any situation and mood and I also really like Jpop and Kpop and I'm a fan of many different groups and try to follow and support them as much as I can. I also really love harmonies and layered vocals so SM artists in terms of Kpop are especially appealing to me, especially since they have some of the best vocalists, but I listen to many different artists. If you want I could recommend you some groups that you may like as well or maybe you won't, it's only a recommendation.

@00786jojo Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko Yeah, no problem you can definitely recommend some, I don't listen to kpop that much so it's nice to try some new music, but I'm familiar with the fact that SM has the best vocalists,it not like I don't listen at all to them but not that much 😅It's funny that I don't listen to kpop often except BTS of course but I watch alots of cdrama, jdrama and kdrama 😂 So yeah, I'm ready, and thanks in advance for the recommendations

@ellengustina Жыл бұрын

i grow up with kpop since 2009 but i never proclaim myself as a stan until bts in 2017. i feel attached to their music, messages and personality that i couldn't find in any other groups. i took like to many genres and songs even kpop group or soloist or any artists as casual listener. but it just bts that makes me wanna spend my money bcs i love them so much that i want to support them fully.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@ellengustina Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko i didn't attach to any genres but i love hiphop. i love kendrick lamar that's why i love bts especially rapline since their roots is hiphop and i found many similariy in their music and lyricism. lyricism is big point plus for me. since bts also often giving references in term of literature, i do find it interesting. i love artists who wrote their own stuffs and able to convey it in unique way too. i do listen to many 2nd gen group back then even now i still remember most of their songs. but never stan them. it just i already pass my kpop phase since 2015. i only stan bts but still listen to any music i want to listen including kpop. i know many groups u mentioned too. it just it's not hitting me but thank u

@dinaarmymom9145 Жыл бұрын

Speaking of hair colors, if you ever react to Boy with Love ft Halsey, there's 8 people with 8 different hair colors. V's hair color is a bright dark blue, if you can see that color in your head! 🤣🤣

@JackInTheBox0294 Жыл бұрын

That was just for mv🙂 they always change color for comebacks, mvs

@Kookiepookie2025 Жыл бұрын

I tried all these popular kpop groups exo , stray kids , black pink , aespa etc I usually just like just the chorus or a catchy part but it's so rare for me to like a whole kpop song and in my playist no kpop song is there just bts and other artists Kpop idols are talented but when it comes to music just few can take my attention in conclusion just bts that I listened to all their albums title tracks or b-sides or solos

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music and lyrics resonate a lot with me.

@sammy532 Жыл бұрын

A lot of ARMYs do like New Jeans ^^

@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 Жыл бұрын

If you like just say you like don't say army Family agenda is everywhere even in Yt too not only on twitter

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

@@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 they said a lot (not all). If you disagree with them, you could also just say so that instead of telling her she can’t say ARMY? The point i would add is that many of us see some key similarities between BTS and NJ. Also, we know it helps take the burden off of BTS to carry the company if other quality acts do well too. I know I personally am not putting them above BTS and all the solo works by BTS members.

@jessicapierce3027 Жыл бұрын

I stream BTS music far more than their music videos. They have some great music videos though. Their whole Bangtan Universe storyline has drawn in many people, and most if not all of what goes on in their MVs has a purpose.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@jessicapierce3027 Жыл бұрын

@kalakeiko6933 Rock and R&B are the genres I listen to most. BTS and a few solo artists are the only Kpop I listen to, I'm not big on other girl group or boy group Idol music. I like some of TXTs stuff, but they always have some element that takes me out of a song, preventing me from really being a fan.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@jessicapierce3027 Interesting! I listen to many different genres, especially rock, indie, traditional and experimental music and everything in between. Music is a huge safe space and comfort for me in any situation and mood and I also really like Jpop and Kpop and I'm a fan of many different groups and try to follow and support them as much as I can. I also really love harmonies and layered vocals so SM artists in terms of Kpop are especially appealing to me, especially since they have some of the best vocalists, but I listen to many different artists. What are the elements that put you off of TXT's music out of curiosity?

@museofwind9004 Жыл бұрын

I know kpop since 2015 year and i dont stan or even casually listen to anyone beside BTS in that industry. Why should i force myself to do it when i can find almost every genre in BTS discography?

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. There are a lot of of very musically diverse and extremely talented all rounder groups out there besides BTS. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion. What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS. My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV (and all of NCT), Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music and lyrics resonate a lot with me.

@mleticiiia Жыл бұрын

the "you can just listen to a song and enjoy it" comment is literally a casual listener and i mean like i consider myself a kpop stan too because i like a lot of others groups music (ex. lesserafim ateez newjeans stray kids gidle txt etc etc), i just like and appreciate music and if their music sounds good to my ears im gonna continue to listen but im prolly not gonna know everything about them or consume all of their stuff like i do with bts and in the end i realise that all the kpop groups i listen to, they all in some way produce or/and writes their own stuff and really participates in the process and are saying what they want in their music so i kinda be drawn to their musics (just like it happened with bts)

@WE__BTS Жыл бұрын

Yeah I guess you’re a stan of K-pop as a whole but only a fan of the individual artists/groups within K-pop other than BTS. That’s cool that there is a common link of artist involvement

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups for their music as well. What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music and lyrics resonate a lot with me.

@lisebet1 Жыл бұрын

I don't know if someone said it below but Attention (around 9:00) - the song you said "who is that? that sounded good" - that's New Jeans who you said you liked also. I - as an American "older lady" - have had the same reaction. Absolutely love BTS and am deep into the rabbit hole but have not found a lot of other kpop that I liked at all. Except New Jeans. I have really liked the songs of theirs I have heard.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@wildlotus4339 Жыл бұрын

I also think Boracity had some bad experiences in KPop fandoms in the past. I had such a thing when I found BTS in 2016. It was nasty. They compared BTS from group A to group Z, starting from visual, outfits, dance, vocal stability, etc etc etc. That made me really sick.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there. I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@Ana-id6uk Жыл бұрын

Let me give both HYBE and Ador their flowers for a second. NewJeans is the only group from Ador, which is technically a new label under HYBE, but all their music labels are independent. Now I don't know what that means in terms of profits and investments, but I know the labels make their own decisions, and HYBE is there for resources. I would assume that HYBE would make sure nothing shady is happening and would support artist creativity and innovation based on their ethics, but I haven't read anything about it. Now what is interesting with the NewJeans company is that the CEO is a woman, which might be a first in kpop? That was the project, create a label fully managed by a woman to have a girl group and see where it goes. As of now, they are BLOWING UP, all of their songs are very catchy and fresh, admittedly simple in terms of lyrics, but with great melodies and harmonies. You can see that the company is letting them write, they aren't overly sexualized in terms of clothes or choreography. Another note about HYBE since I am here. HYBE is a corporation that is at this moment bigger than the big 3 (it could be big 4, but hybe is ahead lol). They lack the connections (and have too much morals) to do a lot in terms of what the big 3 are doing, but they got the cash, and they are expanding - not just in terms of music, but in terms of IT. They are creating social media platforms (such as weverse), making mobile games, cartoons, bought ITHACA holdings (Scooter Braun's management company right) etc. All of it grew or saw success thanks to bts to be honest, and the risk still is that if bts just disappears, they would arguably immediately fall off and be below the big three. Maybe. They diversified, so not sure, but bts is bread and butter. (And BTS opens doors, I mean, the president's entourage said that mentioning bts got them an event at the MOMA they could not negotiate. They get everything, Disney allows copyright, UN allows a performance at their headquarters, Korea allows national monuments to be used for videos.) Back to my point, HYBE is actually aiming higher, it wants to compete with the IT giants in Korea, who are HEAVILY invested in Korean entertainment overall. You see, Google and other international giants do not have access to Korea due to protectionist laws, so a big old oligarchy took place instead, and that's a mess that would take longer to explore. But it explains to some degree your usual confusion on why the big 3 have a sway on the media, monopolies everywhere, man... Please benefit from all of this knowledge I gathered when I intended to invest into HYBE as it went public LOL✋(That is not to say that Korean entertainment is heavily censored, because the stuff coming out can be very critical of the government and capitalism. But there is a lot to explore in terms of who owns what, just like when you explained to us how the US radio works.)

@Yeonkimin_ Жыл бұрын

13:14 that’s bahiyyih shes wasian and brother to kai from txt

@loredell Жыл бұрын

13:51 she's half Korean, raised in Australia. There are lots of Koreans in Australia, sometimes they marry their kind, sometimes they don't, but many offspring come back to the motherland pursuing careers as idols. That one is Bahiyyih (the other half is Brazilian if I'm not mistaken). From group Kep1er. Out of a TV survival show, some members are Chinese, some Japanese and some Korean there too. Not sure if Thai? Probably. Don't know much about them. Maybe worth noting for some... future endeavors, she's the sister of Hueningkai... or Kai. From TXT, the other only group under Big Hit Music label. And BTS babies (literally, they adore each other too much, or just the right amount of much -- and no, you usually see the opposite from many other groups). PS. There are even more "exotic" ones. A couple black girls around too. Or Brazilian. They come from open castings.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

Small correction: Bahiyyih is ethnicity German, not Brazilian! And I agree! NCT alone has over 13 forgein members from America, Canada, China, Japan, Thailand, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan and there's plenty of mixed idols as well such as Bahiyyih from Kep1er, Hueningkai from TXT (as you've mentioned), Lily from Nmixx, Danielle from NewJeans, Kyla from Pristin, Nancy from Momoland, Jeon Somi who's a soloist or Vernon from Seventeen who are all half Asian half White for example!

@jean3A Жыл бұрын

I used to listen to primarily musical theatre/broadway, instrumental/classical and top 40 before I got into the BTS rabbit hole 😂 I listen to some other Korean music (Korean vocalists do airy vocals exceptionally well) but ppl I’ve been hardcore fans of, including BTS, it had always been a natural process so I’m not trying to ‘Stan’ anyone else actively, if it’s gonna happen it’s gonna happen. Kinda silly to demand it of other ppl lol

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@sunandkitties Жыл бұрын

you seem very intelligent, and have experience in the industry so I enjoy listening to what you have to say. thanks!

@preetigaonkar.. Жыл бұрын

19.20 we do like music as in only music lets take BTS's Run Bts it doesn't have an mv and even the dance choreography came afterwards but everybody liked it

@squishycoveswena Жыл бұрын

I feel like your level of sass and bullshit meter fit in well here in the army 😂

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

Sass who me ? 👀👀😂💜

@nurbanitasari5325 Жыл бұрын

The red guy is The8 from boygroup called Seventeen. They're under Pledis which is under HYBE as well

@loredell Жыл бұрын

15:30 You obsessed with the hair like I was in the 2000s... FIrst thing I did when I went to Japan was set foot in a hairdresser's, like I needed to.

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

👀👀 idk about that now. The just popping in next man’s salon chair. My barber would kill me. 😂

@loredell Жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ Not everyone, but we don't usually have "our" barber/hairdresser around here. Some people do, especially older generations, like my grandma's. Usually people go to a hairdresser they like, sure, but also you pop in any/try many, different cities etc. Maybe other EU people can tell more, but I think that "loyalty" is a US thing (mostly). 😁

@mariepettersson6422 Жыл бұрын

Your last words is True,good music is what counts

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups for their music What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music and lyrics resonate a lot with me.

@butterbuttersbetter3689 Жыл бұрын

I watch YT MVs a few times, come back to old ones every now and then, but I listen to their music every day. 18:41 22:14 After becoming a BTS fan (before I was truly ARMY) I tried to get into other kpop groups, especially BP because there was a link to my country, but I just couldn’t get interested but listening to BTS has opened my eyes up to lots of other (non kpop) artists I would previously never have appreciated or even tried.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@GoLyric Жыл бұрын

There are many talented kpop artist, I am Army and biased but I also love music and will not make it seem that BTS are the only talented artist. There are a lot of trash songs but there is a wide range of talented artists and amazing music outside of BTS.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I feel like too many people here regard the whole genre of Kpop as something to look down on and like the artists and groups aren't musically unique and diverse and experiment with different genres, styles and sounds and making it their own and many do have meaningful lyrics and stories and also write and produce them themselves when they definitely do. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me.

@jiminvlxssi7628 Жыл бұрын

Loved the reaction again. and you were not the only one who was getting a little annoyed because of that reporter. That day Army was telling her the truth, ArmyTwitter is hilarious. Boracity knows what she's doing and we love her for that😂. I'm curious about what you'll think about the groups u sumed up👀!! Edit: I don't know if you've got a notification about it but I accidentally pushed the unlike button at first😅. So if you think 'Wtf, who that?' That was me Accidentally.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there. I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion. What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS. My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@forg_tful. Жыл бұрын

newjeans have been really good so far for kpop standards. musically quite strong. (the song you pointed out you liked in the video and would clean your house to was actually attention by newjeans haha). but, they only have a couple of songs out so time will tell. i have a different appreciation for them than i have for bts though, obviously - they deal with quite different themes - but i can appreciate good music sonically when i hear it. however, i still stand by the fact i don't really like kpop, for all the reasons given in the video. bts are the only ones i'll invest time in because you can't really beat their genuineness.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@nillilinuna446 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Jurnalist! The only reason we listen to music is because it's music! I can't listen to YT videos on my way to work. I got into BTS because they write good songs and perform them really well. This is true of other Korean acts like Stray Kids, New Jeans, Block B/Zico, IU, Balming Tiger, and others. But I have no interest in most other KPop groups because their music sounds factory produced.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@lifeofchile Жыл бұрын

What?! That's what I was thinking too 🤔 Kpop fans could not be this narrow minded. Sending love to all 💜💜💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the discourse is that many people here use the term Kpop as something to look down on and that BTS is the only talented, hardworking and unique group out there and therefore the best, which rubs many people the wrong way because that isn't true at all. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me. There's many very musically diverse and extremely talented Kpop groups out there. I personally like many Kpop groups, but I respect your opinion! What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee, BTOB and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music, lyrics and stories resonate a lot with me.

@lifeofchile Жыл бұрын

@@Kalakeiko I like a variety of music genres. My fave would be R&B. I don't stan other group besides BTS. Not because other group are not as talented, but because they take up a lot of time 😅. I have heard and appreciated a lot of kpop songs though 💜

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@lifeofchile I get totally get that! I'm a fan of many groups and have been for years now and I do my best to follow and support them as much as I can, some more than others admittedly, and it can be a bit challenging at times since there's so much content for each of them haha! Thanks for replying and I hope you have a nice day, stay save!

@ruthlessrays9761 Жыл бұрын

5:17 this guy is a korean music critic btw

@brightday02 Жыл бұрын

The song is New Jeans debut Attention. The girl in the skirt is mixed Korean and White.

@erume5776 Жыл бұрын

don't understand why sticking with someone who only got visuals and effects if I have artists who can do *music* while still slaying those visuals and affects yk why would I settle for less

@Jurnalist_ Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s settle but all great music doesn’t have all those things. So being open and keeping in mind everyone doesn’t make music like BTS will keep us from overlooking something we may enjoy although it not being presented as we want it to be.

@erume5776 Жыл бұрын

@Jurnalist @Jurnalist yes if we speak about music in general. my playlist range is insane, I have so many great artists I love from different genres and nationalities, all of them present music in their own way I was just speaking about kpop scene, that does have similar traits in presentation: visual part is important, all kpop acts rely on it to some extent, often a lot, often it becomes the centre of attention. and I do give a lot of kpop artists their fair chance, i keep up with new releases. but I don't see how just visuals can compete for my interest with those who also have real music next to looks and outfits by "settle for less" I just ment mathematically, one act has X, another has X+Y. both require the same amount of my time and devotion if I choose to follow and support them. why choose only X then if X (visuals) in general is kinda irrelevant since everyone has it maybe if every single one of them was making great music, we'd be making choice of who to follow closely based on the looks lol. whatever is more rare to come around will be more valuable. though that being said I still think music will overpower everything and in such scenario the choice would just come down to taste peculiarities whatever I'm ranting haha

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@erume5776 I respect your opinion, but I disagree. There are many extremely talented and unique Kpop groups out there with very diverse music and different genres, meaningful and relatable lyrics and a great stage presence and live performances as well and each of them trained very hard for many years to get where they are now, but I won't deny that BTS are great artists at all. For meaningfull lyrics and beautiful story lines for example there's TXT (Tomorrow x Together). They have not only really talented members and diverse music, but also meaningful lyrics and beautiful story lines in my opinion such as with songs like 0x1=Lovsesong, Loser = Lover, Run Away, Frost, Can't You See Me?, Opening Sequence, Farewell Neverland, Puma, We Lost the Summer, Nap of a Star, Our Summer, Eternally, and many more. There's also Ateez, Oneus, Seventeen, Stray Kids, WayV (Chinese subunit of NCT) and the B-Sides for Monsta X, NCT 127, NCT Dream, EXO and Got7 to name a few. In terms of vocalists there's EXO, Shinee, BTOB, Seventeen, NCT, Ateez and Oneus and for rap Monsta X, Stray Kids, Big Bang, Ateez and NCT. I wouldn't say that Kpop is only an industry and not about the music or artistry at all. Every single artist and group worked extremely hard for years to get where they are now and did it on their own. I don't mind Boracity's videos, but I do think she and her comments tend to disrespect and discredit other groups and Kpop and their fans as a whole and that it's only about trends and being flashy and not about music and passion and that doesn't sit right with me.

@erume5776 Жыл бұрын

@KalaKeiko hm, I don't particularly remember details about that video since it was 3 months ago I won't argue that there are reasons some people are connectingwoth other kpop groups. I have my personal experience though (and I explored a lot of kpop groups, excluding those you listed) and personally I can't connect with kpop's concept driven structure. the difference for me is that a lot of times groups take serious topics as a concept bc it's trendy or a right thing to do to look respectable. while the message is still there, I can't get behind it if it's thrown away once the era is over. a lot of kpop groups are hard working, hell they all are, the system is like that, but having an artistic identity is an exception. as in choosing comeback topic because it was your experience as a human, as a part of society, as a musician, speaking for yourself through your lyrics. nothing shines more in bts' music that authenticity, the development of their thoughts, values, fears and dreams is reflected consistently since 2013 up to 2023 in each album there were groups like that in kpop, few that bts look up to and were inspired by. there are groups like that in kpop now, txt, seventeen, some others. but to say that these kind of groups that write their own music and stories overwhelme the rest of the scene would not be correct

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@erume5776 Yeah, unfortunately there are many companies that don't care about their artists and groups or their fans as long as they make money and continue to attract people and I hate that and I agree that it's a shame that when they do focus on mesningful themes they sometimes end up as a trend or a era concept, even if the artists and fans genuinely connect with the topic and themes. But I do think it has gotten better and more and more artist and groups are given creative freedom to properly express themselves and I really hope that continues.

@IAmRandomlyInOrder Жыл бұрын

BTS is where I started and the only group I've paid money to go see, but during my fall down the BTS rabbit hole, I listened to some of their coloabs. Specifically, RM with MFBTY on a song called Buckubucku. HIGHLY RECOMMEND! Anyway, I found that I didn't really [like] k-pop, but I found a few songs here and there that were fantastic. What I REALLY enjoy is the K rap scene. It's not as...predicable. (although, it comes with a whole different set of challenges)

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@ebereokolo2662 Жыл бұрын

3:07 the snort I let out when you said that.😂😂😂

@candicesmith-mackenzie6303 Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to hear your take on Baepsae. BTS has always been their own genre. 😘💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 They have a soul and that shows in their art. I have other songs by other groups that I love but it just doesn’t have the same depth.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@michelejones6785 Жыл бұрын

Stray kids have some good songs. I love maniac and thunderous

@laurretah9772 Жыл бұрын

It ain't only about visuals for BTS 🐱

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

I personally like many Kpop groups for their music. What is your prefered genre or music? (curious) My introduction to Kpop was Big Bang, Super Junior, Shinee and EXO back in 2012 and I've been hooked to many groups since, including BTS My current favourites are TXT, Monsta X, WayV, Ateez and Dreamcatcher though and have been for a while now, especially TXT since their music and lyrics resonate a lot with me.

@laurretah9772 Жыл бұрын

I listen to stray kids, txt, oneus, p1 harmony, enhyphen, ateez and sikers but BTS introduced me to kpop.

@Kalakeiko Жыл бұрын

@@laurretah9772 Awesome selection of groups! I listen to all of them as well! Thank you for answering and I hope you have a nice day, stay safe!