The EM2 in NATO Trials, with Jonathan Ferguson

[@messmeister92]

“Keeper of Firearms and Artillery” What a badass job title

[@AnthonyHandcock]

@@toki89666 Every person in the UK who is not insane or an ex-con has the right to own firearms.

[@Cam.Klingon]

@@AnthonyHandcock most people in the USA don't realize that, they seem to assume that you cannot own firearms at all...

[@GARDENER42]

@@Cam.Klingon I've noticed... Thankfully, I'm over on the West side of the Pond a couple of times a year & should be there now... :-( Those I spend time with are not only well versed in UK law but somewhat envious of the ease with which I have acquired several suppressors (silencers)... I love being in both places but despite having multiple firearms here in the UK, I miss my pistol shooting & L1A1 enough that given the chance, I'd jump ship tomorrow.

[@michaelswords4416]

You can only get shotguns with a maximum load of 3 shots when it comes to pump action. You can get and AR platforms but their requirements mean they have to be bolt action and use black powder.

[@stonksfromcs1224]

@@michaelswords4416 you can get a semi-automatic rifle but the cartridge has to be 22. i think? sorry if i’m wrong.

[@mistergreene2]

I'm really glad we get these collabs between Gun Jesus and the 12th Doctor.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

My wife would sooner you'd have said '10th' but I'll settle for Capaldi ;)

[@mistergreene2]

@@jonathanferguson1211 Hate it for her.

[@jasonb6101]

Gun Jesus 😂

[@mistergreene2]

@@jasonb6101 you must be new around here

[@100lancey]

I suspect the 13th might be an android...

[@regimes]

Wish the sound quality was better during this whole series of bullpup. Normally not an issue for me but -every- video in this project (which is awesome) has me clinched to my speakers trying to hear what is being said.

[@darransmith32]

Right click on your speaker icon in bottom right of your task bar and select PLAYBACK DEVICES. Double click on the SPEAKERS line and then select the ENHANCEMENT tab of window that pops up. And then tick LOUDNESS EQUALIZATION and click apply. Now every KZbin video will play back at the same volume irrespective of how they were recorded. Your PC may also have other audio enhancement features like noise/hiss reduction which you can turn on (depends on your audio driver).

[@coryandrum]

​@@darransmith32 Thanks! I can't believe i been just putting on headphones for those quiet videos....... If your like me and struggling to find it in W10 its "open sound settings" when right clicking the speaker icon then select "sound control panel" in "related settings". Windows 10 is basically a poorly planned scavenger hunt for settings.

[@stefanmolnapor910]

Read Ian's Forbes interview, you will never complain again!

[@kmd9999]

Also, the room is hideous & they ramble too much...

[@williamflowers9435]

kmd9999 Thou shall not complain as Gun Jesus bestows his omnipotence upon us... he does not ramble, he enlightens 🔫 ⛪️

[@KB-tc5sd]

Can you imagine the imagery of the 1960s and 70s with the EM2 leaning out of a Huey door in Vietnam, running down a Belfast street or even a plastic furnitured EM2A1 in the Gulf

[@jonathanferguson1211]

They'd have called it L1A2, but yes, it's quite a thought.

[@KB-tc5sd]

We need a Photishop Guru!

[@AshleyPomeroy]

It's interesting to imagine how it would have fared during the Suez Crisis - would it have coped with the sand and dust in Egypt? And later on Aden. It would probably have been handy in Malaysia. With a magnified optical scope it would have been very useful in the Falklands.

[@dellawrence4323]

@kev french The provos didn't like the SLR much.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

@@AshleyPomeroy The more sealed action would have made it likely better than the FAL in desert conditions, but hard to say for sure. The FAL needed a couple more years of development to become field reliable, especially in sand and dust; EM2 would have had the same development 'tail' and have ended up at least as reliable - but was more complicated and less robust longer term. Tended to double in adverse conditions/when worn, and only three gas settings (on the later guns); the FAL at least had the whole gamut to try.

[@forcea1454]

A significant worry around this time was the concept of a "broken-back" nuclear war, where the limited number of atomic bombs in the late 1940s and early 50s would cause serious damage to industrial capacity but simultaneously would not cause enough damage to prevent the war from being a protracted industrial conflict. Britain as a result had to depend on US industry to supply it's needs. This fear manifested in amongst other things, naval gun projects, with the British and American 3"/70 guns sharing the same barrels and ammunition (although the individual mountings differed considerably).

[@richardlathrop61]

There is a lot of context missing from these discussions about the bigger military picture at the time regarding strategy and budgets.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

@@richardlathrop61 Absolutely. I provide a lot of it in the book; there were sound reasons to push for standardisation and indeed to opt for the FAL in the end when only ammunition was standardised upon.

[@TheRobbex]

@@richardlathrop61 Very much so. The Berlin Airlift and Uncle Joe still in the Kremlin. Lots to consider not least British bankruptcy and Rationing in the U.K.

[@mlpeacecraft339]

Absolutely gorgeous rifle.

[@samobispo1527]

The camera should have closed in on the rifle. Who wants to see them when their Grail gun is in the frame.

[@scipio10000]

I had a sudden flash of alternate history, seeing myself in the national service shooting through the EM-2 the statutory 30 rounds in a year plus carrying it around in my guard corvees round the barrack's perimeter .... damn ! What a beautiful road was not taken ...

[@able_archer01]

An EM-2 in 7.62 or 5.56 perhaps?

[@scipio10000]

@@able_archer01 I think they did try to rechamber it in .308, but I believe that they thought ah well the USA going to the FAL, may as well get the FAL. We know how that went down ..

[@ironwoodnf]

@@scipio10000 the FAL is a great rifle today, may not have been the best decision but it was a damn good one. Love my FAL and so do alot of other folks 🥰

[@reallydontlikethem]

The ammo is really heavy so the FAL didn't work out in combat roles

[@scipio10000]

@@ironwoodnf No contest there. I shot a dutch army fal at my club. Sweet! But how cooler would have it been in .280 British 😏

[@duanetapp1280]

The argument about 6 FALs to 5 EM2s makes sense, but if the EM2 was adopted then other countries would also. That's a lot of foreign currency coming in through gun and ammo sales.

[@reallydontlikethem]

They'd probably struggle to find buyers for the chief reason FN had a better design

[@duanetapp1280]

Barack Hussein Obama II was the FAL better than the EM2?, Australia and New Zealand took the FAL because Britain adopted it. With the EM2 in production some countries might have brought it.

[@andrewince8824]

Economy of scale. Chances are once the EM-2 hit production, if it had ever had a fighting chance, the design would see improvements in production and cost reduction. For example, in 1913 a .22 rifle could set you back a whole $50. That's $1303.61 today, the cost of a decent AR-15. Now a Ruger 10/22 costs about $310, in 1913 that would be $11.89. As manufacturing methods are refined, costs diminish. Almost all military arms see the costs decrease once production is going and in the few cases prices go up the weapon has usually been given a good update.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@reallydontlikethem had the EM2 won the trial, everyone in NATO would have been using it.

[@M.M.83-U]

@@ScottKenny1978 No, exactly like with the FAL. But the Commonwealt and a few others probably Will.

[@andrewmack191]

Thank you for mentioning the Arrow, Jonathan. It's one of us Canadian's favourite "what-if" stories to fantasize about.

[@rpm1796]

Something like an Inglis, Long Branch EM2.

[@CAPNMAC82]

Jonathan's title still sounds like something that ought o have a formal Chain of Office (even if that also required scarlet robes with ermine trim)

[@nolanolivier6791]

Wait a minute... so, they recognised that the LSW idea was inadequate to requirement, but they still fobbed us off with the L86..!? (sigh).... it's as if they just don't care!

[@G1NZOU]

I kind of like the LSW idea when it's done properly, the Russians had a good package with the RPK. Though they had the sense to also adopt a general purpose machine gun like the PK as well to keep their options open. At least now they're recognising that the L86 wasn't a great idea, or more accurately a really bad implementation of a fairly acceptable idea. And have brought more L7s back into service and replaced the LSW's function with the dedicated marksman with L129A1s.

[@DarthWillSmith]

Admit it, you guys just like this thing because it's cool looking. ...Oh but it IS the coolest looking gun I've ever seen, don't get me wrong.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Well it's not just that it's cool looking but that the alternative (that the US rejected this for), the M14 was pretty awful, surviving in service just 5 years before it was largely replaced by the M16.

[@Likexner]

​@@sergarlantyrell7847 I have no experience with real guns but i always liked the m14 in games. Its usually pretty practical and looks nice both in wood and in plastic.

[@Goatboysminion]

The Yanks killed it! That's what happened.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

Some did. Others quite liked it :) It definitely has its pros and cons though.

[@seanjoseph8637]

And the TSR2...

[@johnbull1986]

I thought he said Churchill wasn't a fan and prefered the SLR?

[@tisFrancesfault]

Churchill killed it in the end. Churchill tended to make many many bad decisions though.

[@krishnam1]

Another stupid decision by the perpetually drunk Winston Churchill

[@priestofmegatallica]

Maybe Ian could convince Brownells to add these to their retro lineup

[@Desrtfox71]

I'd love to see a replica EM-2!

[@ScottKenny1978]

It'd probably be $5500, like the SMG fg42. Still want one?

[@Desrtfox71]

@@ScottKenny1978 quite possibly yes.

[@GARDENER42]

@@ScottKenny1978 Oh yes indeedy. Kickstarter anyone...;-)

[@twobellz]

Do they still even manufacture .280 British?

[@jamietus1012]

The American ordinance department seem to have been stuck in the past constantly about history. Is that just because those stories are the most interesting and hence show up more or was the ordinance department actually filled with people who were stuck in the past?

[@andreww2098]

"If it was good enough for me it's good enough for you, now get off my lawn!"

[@janwacawik7432]

Aye, it seems that the only things that were adopted relatively swiftly were the self contained centerfire cartridge and the standard issue semi auto.

[@austinm.9832]

@@janwacawik7432 and they weren't even the first, the Russians adopted the AVS-36 first.

[@corey3606]

@@andreww2098 So basically the Boomer mentality.

[@lancesoterion435]

@@corey3606 pre-boomer mentality. Winston Churchill's name is mentioned several times. Churchill was a veteran of the Boer Wars in South Africa. Not too many boomers can claim that.

[@frankmueller2781]

Sounds like they forgot the old American axiom, "Happiness is a belt-fed weapon."

[@randymagnum143]

I'll comprimise. A bullpup M14 in .250 savage.

[@johnwiesen4440]

I have put my name down for two of the books. My father saw the EM2 being tested when he was doing his natonal service.

[@konstantin.v]

15:53 It felt really weird to look at the guy pointing at an overall quite long rifle saying that there's no way to have a decent sight radius on it :^)

[@scroggins100]

Breaks yer heart dunnit

[@hoegaarden033]

The most ambitious crossover

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian . Thank you , Jonathan ,

[@kingmobmor7656]

Ever thought about visiting the armouries museum in Leeds?

[@matthewspencer5086]

I am green with envy at all the commentators who have such exquisite hearing that they have to howl with rage every time there's a You Tube video, on whatever channel, where the sound is slightly "off." You must all have fired fewer explosive crossbow bolts than I did in my youth! With my firearm (and crossbow) -violated ears, I was able to hear and understand the considerable amount of original intelligence that this video sought to convey. I would like it if Kathryn Tickell were to invest in a better microphone, but Ian and Jonathan are not singing or playing the violin or Northumbrian Pipes here.

[@SgtMajorJackson]

Awesome Videos! i wonder if there will be any answers to Canada's supposed love of the .280 cartridge in the Early FAL versions? Or the interest in the EM-2 trials?

[@lancesoterion435]

I think the ball was dropped twice there. The .276 Pederson and the Canadian .280.

[@andrewince8824]

Jansen was Polish and if pre-war Polish firearm designs are anything to go on then the EM-2's crazy level of innovation isn't surprising. The cartridge was designed to balance a set of requirements borne of actual modern combat, in fact we're starting to return to a roughly 7mm projectile, slightly more powerful than 5.56mm but not as hot as 7.62 to defeat body armour. The optic while a necessity to a degree was still a very forward thinking concept. The elephant in the room is that Bullpup design, again not brand new, but it was the first time the Bullpup concept had been considered for a major combat weapon.

[@wayneorellana2549]

When "What might of been" is actually smarter and better thought out than what was. If the EM2 was adopted we would never have seen the 7.62 or 5.56 standard issue rifles, possibly to this day.

[@wayneorellana2549]

An FAL in 280 would be a beautiful rifle to shoot.

[@neilmorrison7356]

If Studler had not been an old woman about the cartridge a 280 FAL could well have won out for everyone bar the USA once Churchill got involved.

[@wayneorellana2549]

@morton christie I do believe that you are correct.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@Craig Koehler you know that most of the world doesn't speak English as their first language, right? I still think that the .280 is a little heavy for an intermediate cartridge, so I suspect that there would have been a lighter caliber at some point in time. But certainly not in the 1960s like the AR 15.

[@samuelbishop3316]

Only issue with the EM2 was how complex and manufacturing because of that. Not a bad rifle, at all but it's also worth mentioning that the 280 fal won out for accuracy tests overall Either would have been a better option

[@brianwingo6472]

Very interesting stuff. I ca: not get over the feeling this was shot in a morgue and those two carts in the back are for moving bodies. But that's just me.

[@markfergerson2145]

They're for the corpses of guns that might have been.

[@davidgoodnow269]

Close, it's actually a museum clean room for documenting, dissecting, cleaning, and restoring.

[@malcolmtaylor518]

At the end of the second world war, Britain was bankrupt, and a huge debtor to the US. Is it any surprise we made these decisions? To have proceeded with these weapons would have required the kind of Victorian confidence and determination that had been broken by the 1940's.

[@brucegraham4332]

The Canadians trialed the same optic on FN FAL. It wasn't adopted on C1.

[@nikond90ful1]

Thanks for the video. Interesting. Keep safe and stay well.

[@troy9477]

Always great historical info. I opined somewhere a few months ago that we should cook up a modern intermediate cartridge. My idea is for a 7x45mm (same length as 5.56), with a slightly larger case body. I am fairly certain you could easily push a 120 or 130 grain bullet to 2400-2500 fps at reasonable pressure with modest powder charges. It should shoot flat enough to make hits at 400 yards with an upper center mass hold. We know that 7mm bullets have good aerodynamics, and retain velocity well. It would be somewhat shorter and lighter than 7.62/308. Should have commercial appeal in a light bolt action for hunting as well (i am looking at you, Rem Model 7 and Ruger American Compact). So it is a slight improvement over the ballistics of the 7.62x39, with still a light recoil impulse, with an aerodynamic bullet. The Venezuelans had the 7x49mm in the FN49, and possibly in the FAL as well. I think a cartridge like this would go it one better with modern powders like Varget. In fact, it might even be possible to achieve it with the same case body diameter as the 5.56, which would be advantageous from a magazine standpoint. Commercially, you would be introducing a new cartridge into a crowded field, and you will probably not unseat the 6.5 Creedmoor. But it do present fascinating possibilities, as Eastwood famously said near the end of Thunderbolt & Lightfoot. Anyway, great video as always. Thank you

[@828enigma6]

Wouldn't a 7X39 be doable? We've already seen some milled frame AKs with acceptable accuracy? And there's LOTS of magazines available.

[@Kav.]

Did Venezuela have FN49s in 7x49? I thought Vene FN49s were 7mm Mauser? They DID have FALs in 7x49 Liviano, there are photos of even Fidel Castro with one.

[@basedvorenus7497]

Best crossover ever hahahahahah

[@georgerobartes2008]

Its not the same calibre. 7mm is not 30 calibre ( 7.62 mm ) . The 7mm Mauser bullet was used in standard jacketed lead ball and jacketed AP . The case can be found in the old 303 cartridge case as drawn but rimless , shortened and necked down to 7mm . I have used both 303 , 7-30 and 30-30 to reproduce the cases . Any 303 case producer around the world could cup and draw the basic case using existing dies without the cost of retooling. The original case being not too dissimilar to 7mm Danish that had been produced in the 1920s . The 280 Brit cartridge underwent a number of changes assisted by FN , to appease Studler ending up with a 30-06 case head size an approx increase of around 1mm in diameter from the original . European cartridge manufacturers had geared up to produce the round as it was proved as the best in trials and adopted as 7mm NATO .

[@JohnCenaRektU]

great vid, poor sound

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

That's a really nice looking example of the EM2.

[@ALRinaldi]

Does Cody have an EM-2 or did Jonathan bring it in for the conference?

[@jonathanferguson1211]

Cody have it. It's an X2E1 variant, serial number EN103 :)

[@paulgray5513]

@@jonathanferguson1211 I think their is a video on youtube of it being fired, the recoil in 308 is something else when you compare it to Ian's 280 video at Shrivenham. Would it have done well as a military rifle in 7.62x51 I am not sure. I fear we probably would have ended up with an early sa80 a1 on our hands, coupled with similar quotes to those about the mars pistols lol. Congratulations on the book i look forward to reading it.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

@@paulgray5513 Eminently possible. It was as good as the FAL on paper, but reality is not paper :) We wouldn't have had the same build quality/QC issues as SA80, and possibly not the same level of cost cutting. But still, it's not the wunderwaffen people sometimes think. Better than some think, worse than others :)

[@paulgray5513]

@@jonathanferguson1211 Thank you for your reply. Much as you said the TSR2 and the EM2 looked so far ahead of their time that we do tend to look them with rose tinted glasses. It would have been interesting to see how the EM2 developed. But perhaps the greater loss was the 280 british cartridge, especially as the americans are now testing the 6.8spc which is very similar to the 280 in their new assault rifle. Chance are they will not go down that route but it does beg the question, what might have happened had Eugene Stoner produced the AR10 in 280 would 5.56 have ever existed? Curtis LeMays birthday party might have yielded a very different proposition. Perhaps brownells could be persuaded to make one of their AR10 copies in 280 for a new trial? unfortunately only for our friends across the pond to enjoy.

[@thomasstevenhebert]

@@paulgray5513 just a point of order the 6.8 rounds currently being tested have nothing to do with 6.8 spc. Its a heavier bullet, completely different case design and performance.

[@edmundscycles1]

My cousin who is in the british army as a REME loved his SUSAT sight .

[@GARDENER42]

Pledged for the red book - it'll go well with my copy of The FAL Rifle (which contains a photo of Churchill's presentation FAL, complete with gold inlaid engraving).

[@jrgordon47]

From my second lesson about and with firearms...I've enjoyed the intro info as to the "Why" of a firearm, short course...That being said it's the "How" that I lock into. Your Masterful in that aspect Ian...Even when you fumble a tare down section, it's a real move, that will usually happen In the real world...That's what I look for...I'll watch again, at a later time, if I want the tech...

[@mgtowsoldier8673]

The best battle rifle the British Army never had...

[@joshparker3344]

Why not develop the fg42 more? comparable in size and function and converting to 7.62 from 8mm mauser seems doable. Even the detachable scope on the fg42 seems superior.

[@reallydontlikethem]

Fragile and complicated and expensive. It never saw standard issue for a reason. Your gonna see it in the hands of paratroopers and spec ops because they can maintain the weapon. The average rifleman cannot be trusted with something like an FG-42

[@christopherpearce2831]

The stoner weapon system was probley the nearest we are going to get

[@seculartapes]

This has probably been covered on one of your videos... but why, when Britain decided to standardise on 5.56, did they not dust off the EM-2 and rechamber it rather than trying to hammer an AR-18 into a EM-2 shaped hole?

[@jonathanferguson1211]

Cost, complexity, and - for a 5.56 class round - weight. A bullpupped AR-18 should have been great.

[@seculartapes]

Jonathan Ferguson I suspected that may have been the case. Thanks for the confirmation!

[@davecarlson1918]

@@jonathanferguson1211 I'll await the full story in the book, but didn't it go 6.2mm, then 4.85mm, then the Belgian-designed SS109/ eventual U.S. M855 62gr. 5.56mm cartridge? Meanwhile, the French adopted the M193, and then couldn't get with Nato about the SS109 change (because Belgian one wonders?) I will note that the L85 aka SA80 aka L85A1/ A2/ A3 pistol-grip looks like a dead ringer copy of the EM-2s, albeit in plastic! Nice little "tribute" I suppose?

[@Kav.]

They did take two EM-2s and convert them to 6.25mm, but SCHV is really a whole other ball game, bloke on the range has a good video on the manufacturing issues with it.

[@1982rrose]

2nd follow on book re LMG/GPMG research post WW2?

[@markvick6138]

ian could the em2 be put into service today ? if no why ?

[@828enigma6]

"Wrong cartridge". And at a time our military is keenly interested in adopting a new universal military round, they surely wouldn't be interested. Even if round and rifle were far superior to what is proposed.

[@sahyadubowik6808]

Enfield EM-2 game yes

[@letsplaybarrysmod5815]

I like these types of videos

[@TheManFromCanada]

And now we might go to a 6.8mm cartridge if the NGSW program actually goes somewhere...

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

As much as I think it would be better for everyone than the 7.62x51mm for an AR, I'm not sure I really like .280 cartridge. It might just be aesthetically I don't like the short & fat, heavily necked down look, but it seems like it would be inconvenient for either magazine capacity or belt feeding.

[@oblio7732]

Ian! Any chance of putting your hands on a Groza?

[@kenny344]

Nice.

[@Gabthar]

The audio of this video should be a forgotten weapon

[@thomassymonds6308]

very cool story, thanks for sharing!

[@RealSeekerOfTheTruth]

Hey guys, serious question here: I'm firing pistols left-handed. Rifles too. My writing hand is right. I'm throwing stuff with my right hand. I'm kicking footballs with my left foot. Same with karate kicks. Playing guitars and such left-handed. I can only wink with my right eye. I'm holding a fork right-handed, the knife is on my left. Screwdrivers are in my left hand. My phone is always on my left ear. Now the question: what the hell is wrong with me?

[@christopherpearce2831]

Ambidexterious or southpaw thats been forced to conform to a right handed world

[@fruhotchiliman]

Can you please review the Heavy Gustav for us?!

[@ZacLowing]

So... which one would have been better?

[@markfergerson2145]

Is it just me or does the soldier in the thumbnail seem to be thinking "How am I supposed to hold this thing?"

[@MrKevo36]

Nice

[@steveasyliveasy2436]

you should boost audio on this one. You need a shirt Mic. I'll buy your book On french firearms asap.

[@danamunkelt3276]

Please do fix the acoustics. A rug on the floor, pin a drape to the wall, bodies on the gurnies...

[@HappytubsDoncaster]

USA are now stepping up from 5.56 for longer range

[@-lightningwill-6014]

There was rumor the Americans had a lot to do with losing this rifle

[@sethy5136]

Lovely!

[@Esau2507]

OH MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

[@lesgl]

Are there any prototype Taden machine guns still in existence???

[@Kav.]

Yes

[@davidwatson8118]

The sound is terrible, cant hear what is going on.

[@thedamnyankee1]

Sounds like the Nato trials would be a good topic for a book. Id do it, but I have no idea how.

[@MaxSluiman]

So all of Europe get's stuck with this American 7,62 round up until the 1990 ies, while the US themselves quickly change to 5,56. And now we all use 5,56. And guess what. The Americans now slowly start to change to heavier cartridges...

[@ScottKenny1978]

@Craig Koehler yet. They're trying to do so, but the specs for Project Overmatch make it sound like they're trying to make a .270 Winchester "assault rifle". 130+gr at 3000fps?!? WTF?

[@mujdatozc]

Cool rifle 😁

[@paulgray5513]

Is their some irony in that potentially the new american assault rifle will be in 6.8spc or in NATO nomenculture 6.8x43 hmm. The cartridge base diameter is closer to 280 british as well. 280 british would be 7.2x43 I believe.

[@alswann2702]

Ain't gonna happen.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Nope, that's not project overmatch. Overmatch is trying to launch a 130+gr slug at 3000+fps for some stupid reason (!).

[@samobispo1527]

Someone please make a modern reproduction of this rifle! Is the design in the public domain?

[@konighansen9062]

let see some Mauser SR-97/93

[@matthewcirillo8054]

Cant wait for this series to be over.

[@ernestjunior3080]

If Churchill liked the FAL then FN FAL it is.

[@pkt1213]

Us Americans are A-holes when it comes to forcing out ideas on our NATO partners. 🤣

[@lanceluthor6660]

You must have the .30 cal then a little bit later ,you know that intermediate cartridge you were always on about? Meet the 5.56.

[@krakenburger56]

Just realised how the vid ends at 19:11. Is this a secret message from Gun Jesus?

[@issakoyshman6494]

Hey i want to know what U think about about the game "world of guns" and if this good sorce to get some info about the guns, i still gonna watch this channel.....but i just want to know if its a "nice game" with good info

[@issakoyshman6494]

Sorry about my txt im russian

[@elobiretv]

Jonathan was sponsored by them in a video recently and said it's very good

[@itsconnorstime]

It always irritates me imagining what could have been, but I've never heard any old squaddie complain about the SLR.

[@jonprince3237]

But the SLR had a lot of work done to it by FN and then in British development, trials and testing to become the "good old SLR", it wasn't simply a case of picking a fantastic design off a sheet of paper and cranking them out, the U.K. development alone lasted years before it was fully adopted.

[@jimmelnyk7506]

With all the recent interest in bullpups, you should check out this animated video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/goiwd52ZZ7aVqqs

[@stephengalindo6340]

I gotta say, the audio sucks. However, I'd rather the money that would be spent on a mic be spent on travel, food, and content. Kudos

[@Garrumx]

Pretty sure it's just that room being the original inventor of the echo.

[@VideoHawkeye]

Something can’t be a rifle and submachine gun

[@davecarlson1918]

Kalashnikov?

[@ScottKenny1978]

Sure it can. It needs to be able to reach out to 300m to be a rifle, but be controllable in full auto like an SMG. Oh, look. That's a Kalashnikov or an M16.

[@happycatlovesyou3366]

I hope you're keeping safe during the pandemic.

[@re49991]

Every time i see em2 i just think of honda civics

[@max333463]

Sound quality is low. Very hard to understand guest, his accent ninja-chopped the entire video. Have no idea what he was saying.

[@ac1dP1nk]

Now we're ducking talking

[@badmutherfunster]

It appears that the gun was good but the not invented here syndrome raised its ugly head

[@DiggingForFacts]

"America was never going to accept anything less than a full-powered cartridge, which should have been obvious at the time." Well, not necessarily. Even today, plenty of people don't realize that America has always had to be dragged into the future kicking and screaming.

[@brucebaxter6923]

random thought, gas operated minigun

[@LolTollhurst]

Soviet Yak-B 12.7mm gatling gun on the Mil Mi-24V. Spools up quicker than motor drive, but gets dirtier

[@brucebaxter6923]

@@LolTollhurst cool

[@rangefinder3538]

Change the morgue microphone

[@TristramSavage]

Back to the morgue...lol

[@leecline5759]

You know, as bad as it would have been if they adopted it, I kind of wish they had so POMs would stop defending and what iffing it. When this gun got to combat and failed worse than L85 there would be no way to defend them.

[@tylerdurden4608]

Wit almost 2 mill subs this channel should have better sound

[@badpossum440]

.556 is not an intermediate cartridge.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

If 5.56 x 45 mm is not an intermediate cartridge, what is?

[@tisFrancesfault]

No it's not, .556 is a monster round. But nobody is talking about .556, clearly 5.56 is the cartridge in question, or .223 if you'd prefer?

[@rayg.2431]

Decimal points, where do they go?

[@iphail4733]

Hope this was filmed before the UK lockdown, you're DEFINITELY not 2m (6ft) apart...

[@ForgottenWeapons]

It was.

[@jonbuckley1495]

@@ForgottenWeapons was that a serious question he asked ?? serious face palming going on ! Top Work Ian and all those involved !

[@durangointhebush7251]

Hard to absorb information about weapons like this one from men with arms of a 12 year old girl.

[@rickden8362]

Got half way through and it became unlistenable. Bad sound and the Brit's inflection sucked.

[@UseAndGo]

I dont want to bash, but holy Funk please get better ´mic/audio recorder... this is bloody murder

[@chalkster4723]

Looks & sounds like you're in a morgue again 😄

[@TristramSavage]

Ha, you beat me to it...lol

[@reubensandwich9249]

Obviously a pre-COVID morgue

[@ScottKenny1978]

Museum's conservation room. Really close to a morgue, but not quite the same.

[@benzzodude]

In a way it is a morgue for guns

[@F1ghteR41]

Reading through Matthew Ford's PhD thesis led me to believe that Americans played British like a fiddle without any proper arguments against .280 just by using the raw inertia and corrupt nature of American war machine, and the rest - like the French connection - was just a political matter, and a pretty stupid one at that.

[@julemandenudengaver4580]

I'll bet 5$ that we see That "Churchill" FAL in a furture episode