The Embarrassing Downfall of the Alpine F1 Team

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@leonand42
@leonand42 10 ай бұрын
The amount of highly regarded staff being let go/ wanting to leave just shows its a toxic and delusional overseeing management in control.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
You don't have that much turnover if there's not serious problems up top.
@wile123456
@wile123456 10 ай бұрын
And next year they will be purchased by some crypto NFT scam or a small endowed Saudi Prince
@randomuser5200
@randomuser5200 10 ай бұрын
They are forced resignations
@villehursti
@villehursti 10 ай бұрын
Normal French behaviour.
@LSB001
@LSB001 10 ай бұрын
How Rossi still has a job is beyond me. He must have some serious dirt on people.
@akhila2521
@akhila2521 10 ай бұрын
Wanted to be the French Ferrari Ended up as the French Haas
@Zack_F1
@Zack_F1 10 ай бұрын
Alpain 😅
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Le-Haas
@duncansnowden6857
@duncansnowden6857 10 ай бұрын
Worse. The French Jaguar. The French Toyota. Because it's the same phenomenon as those two: a major manufacturer thinking it can run an F1 team better than lifelong F1 people. It never works.
@alexpeak16
@alexpeak16 10 ай бұрын
Oh it’s more like Prost-Peugeot from 1998-2000. Poor pace, horrendous unreliability and internal power struggles.
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 10 ай бұрын
If Alpine & HAAS had the same amount of money and resources, HAAS would obliterate them 😂
@Daxboy16
@Daxboy16 10 ай бұрын
When Alain Prost said he had heard many times at Renault HQ that F1 'was a simple sport that could be easily managed from home', I knew they were never going to win anything. At the end of last year, I predicted they'd fall behind Williams and Sauber in 2-3 years. I was wrong, it seems it'll be in less than 1 year.
@NN010
@NN010 10 ай бұрын
Damn… that is a pretty damning incitement of Alpine. Just goes to show that Alpine’s problems are the ownership. Just as I suspected
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Damn, that's pretty brazy.
@perfectman3077
@perfectman3077 10 ай бұрын
so much for your prediction!
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 10 ай бұрын
Well, I guess it was less than 100 races -or was it the Five Year Plan, doesn't really matter now. I guess Otmar wasn't the problem?
@Jout8-re1ij
@Jout8-re1ij 9 ай бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey Tf brazy? What kind of stupid sounding word is this?😂
@09juliancarr
@09juliancarr 10 ай бұрын
You didn’t even mention Alain Prost!!! He left, giving it both barrels!!! And de Meo was the target!
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
🤦
@teabagtowers3823
@teabagtowers3823 10 ай бұрын
I thought Laurent Rossi was the target.
@deeacosta2734
@deeacosta2734 10 ай бұрын
Dogging Alain was criminal.
@bonelesswatermelon420
@bonelesswatermelon420 10 ай бұрын
RIP Ryan Renault's investment
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Ryan Dacia :(
@daphnelovesL
@daphnelovesL 10 ай бұрын
Rename it to Dacia F1
@natelecarde962
@natelecarde962 10 ай бұрын
@@daphnelovesLMake James May the team principal
@stgeorgee
@stgeorgee 10 ай бұрын
Minty F1
@the_uglysteve6933
@the_uglysteve6933 10 ай бұрын
Bring back the Yellow and Blue Renault
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise 10 ай бұрын
As others have commented when a manufacturer gives a world champion like Alain Prost (and former team owner) the opportunity to help shape a team in a consulting role and he chooses to walk once he sees behind the curtain that tells you everything you need to know. When Merc gave Niki Lauda the same opportunity he gave years of his support and expertise and experience to the team.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I genuinely can't believe I completely forgot about Alain Prost. That says A LOT. 😅
@janvasicek8843
@janvasicek8843 10 ай бұрын
Oscar Piastry dodged the biggest bullet of his life
@LuminalSpoon
@LuminalSpoon 10 ай бұрын
Alonso too, for the first time ever lol
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Mark Webber's crystal ball
@nhancao4790
@nhancao4790 10 ай бұрын
And after losing both the prospect of Alonso and Piatri, they ended up with 2 French drivers who loathes each other
@torent40
@torent40 10 ай бұрын
😄😁😆😅
@eirebhoy132
@eirebhoy132 9 ай бұрын
@@nhancao4790tbf everyone seems to hate ocon.
@chobbs3384
@chobbs3384 10 ай бұрын
It's a shame seeing alpine fall because they had/have crazy potential but they've become soulless since the renault to alpine rebranding
@cosmicdust4749
@cosmicdust4749 10 ай бұрын
Bro, the Renault F1 team is dead since the end of 2006. After that the only time that they where near to the top of the grid was back when they became Lotus F1 and only last until 2013. After that they went back to the midfield. They never where a competent Team and they will never be until Renault left. The biggest problem Renault himself
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
The danger of the word "potential" eh.
@Gentleman...Driver
@Gentleman...Driver 10 ай бұрын
Renault had one of the best development centers for Formula one, but it was simply too cost intensive. And when they partnered up with Red Bull they didnt get any credit for the championship wins. But everybody bashed on them when they had a bad start with the new turbo era. So they pulled the plug... When they decided to go back to F1 they had a significant smaller budget and therefor, in order to avoid bashing for the Renault brand, they rebranded the team into Alpine, since they needed to get that brand more popular anyway. You cant expect them to win Formula one against the crazy budgets that come from Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes.
@KJ28554
@KJ28554 10 ай бұрын
Remember in 2021/22 when el plan was in full swing Doesn’t seem to be working…
@leonand42
@leonand42 10 ай бұрын
It has become L Plan now
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 10 ай бұрын
@@leonand42 turned into Lpine real quick
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
It was - and then it wasn't.
@yungjaypee
@yungjaypee 10 ай бұрын
El Plan was jump ship for Alonso
@carstuffff
@carstuffff 9 ай бұрын
Le plan
@alexpeak16
@alexpeak16 10 ай бұрын
I remember Adrian Newey gave an interview on Beyond The Grid where RBR had a meeting with the Renault board around 2014/15. He said they encouraged Renault to boost their budget and resources to improve what was a hopeless engine but came out of the meeting depressed when then-CEO Carlos Ghosn said "I have no interest in F1, I'm only in it because my marketing people say I should be". That brutally honest statement is laced within every inch of the Renault hierarchy. This is where they are today because of that attitude.
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 5 ай бұрын
They clearly just see it as money wasted, but if it doesn’t transfer to car sales you can understand why. They were always going to struggle against bigger more high end brands that do see a direct correlation to car sales.
@swampthing94
@swampthing94 10 ай бұрын
Sacking Cyril wasn't a good move. It was definitely not his fault that they finished 5th in 2020. The 3-5th race was pretty much decided by the drivers and Esteban just wasn't on Daniel's level
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
I thought Cyril did a really good job. He played the media well - from an outside POV anyway he was decent.
@swampthing94
@swampthing94 10 ай бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey I agree 100%
@RobertoLaimer1987
@RobertoLaimer1987 10 ай бұрын
they finished 4th in 2020
@swampthing94
@swampthing94 10 ай бұрын
@@RobertoLaimer1987 Nope, they were 5th
@RobertoLaimer1987
@RobertoLaimer1987 10 ай бұрын
@@swampthing94 oh yeah, i forgot the pink mercedes
@ant2p2
@ant2p2 10 ай бұрын
"This engine has to cook!" 19:10 To be fair their current engines do cook every other race, literally
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Wrong kinda cooking.
@gabes200
@gabes200 10 ай бұрын
and apparently their gearboxes too
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 8 ай бұрын
Roasting the engine.
@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf
@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf 10 ай бұрын
The team morale looked awful in the Netflix episodes, especially when Bruno came in... and he's not exactly Mr Motivator. Alpine need a James Vowles type character to step in and really shake things up and re-energise the team. I knew the moment I saw Bruno talking to the team in Endstone it wasn't going to work out. He just doesn't give that inspiration or drive that the team needs.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Having a team leader with that media savvy approach - it's important. Not the most important thing of course, but it helps Vowles is good with that stuff. It inspires confidence.
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise 10 ай бұрын
Endstone's only chance is to find a leader that sets up a friendly "us against corporate" rivalry and then shield the whole factory from any contact with Renault executives and their de-motivating statements and plans. But that is a really exhausting role on top of all the other responsibilities of a team boss.
@miguellromao
@miguellromao 10 ай бұрын
You made me think that they should get Horner if he's sacked by RB...
@Tom-rt2
@Tom-rt2 10 ай бұрын
@@miguellromaoHorner going to Alpine would be peak comedy. Especially considering the history between RB and Renault
@999999SkyGuy
@999999SkyGuy 8 ай бұрын
​@@Tom-rt2 Crazier things have happened in F1 History
@hecksters423
@hecksters423 10 ай бұрын
When I thought that the French Revolution would start at the moment Alpine signed Gasly, I was wrong. It was when they took out their Louis XIV in Otmar Szaufner. Then the rest of the staff has been replaced by the Jacobins.
@AJ-zy9jf
@AJ-zy9jf 10 ай бұрын
Otmar looking better and better over time. And he's right, having the fear of losing your job at any moment is such unneeded stress. Reassure your people that you will not lose your job because of some rough times.
@cob4400
@cob4400 10 ай бұрын
We don't Believe Andretti will be competitive enough, however we believe Alpine are competitive with no team at all💀
@timmanto1022
@timmanto1022 10 ай бұрын
If they get the Honda engine that would be a winning car.
@cob4400
@cob4400 10 ай бұрын
Tbh the way Honda keep coming in and out of f1 , idk if pairing up with what appears to be the most unstable team is going to work. Gives me 2015/16 Mclaren Honda vibes but at the same time I don't think they can be worse than they currently are.@@timmanto1022
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Proves the point that having big theoretical resources, does not guarantee anything.
@phxmaster9684
@phxmaster9684 10 ай бұрын
I am strongly convinced the FIA just didn’t want a second American team Andretti is a well respected racing team stateside and while they’d probably not win for a long time would build the team up pretty quickly Them being rejected made absolutely zero sense
@Heyoooo192
@Heyoooo192 10 ай бұрын
@@phxmaster9684 Haas is an american team by name only, almost 100% operates in Europe.
@hamza-chaudhry
@hamza-chaudhry 10 ай бұрын
Alain Prost said how poorly he thought of management. I think he was specifically referring to Laurent Rossi who wanted to take all the credit for himself or something. Also in the end of year photo in 2021, Marcin had his middle finger stuck out. Things certainly weren't good at that team.
@FreddyMacT
@FreddyMacT 10 ай бұрын
It's so funny to think that even a Lotus team in the early 2010's, had better engineering, aero and power mechanics that actually won races while still going broke vs what Renault/Alpine do. That lotus team highlights how narrow the profit margins used to be. But nowadays? I'm just amazed by how pathetic Alpine/Renault still are, despite in an era were F1 finally found a bigger market. They should be gone by next season but they won't, so I expect another rebranding soon for Renault.
@glenrobinson10
@glenrobinson10 10 ай бұрын
Go back to Renault or sell it to Andretti. This Alpine experiment has been nothing short of an embarrassment.
@massimodegrazia2192
@massimodegrazia2192 10 ай бұрын
Alpine Is just the name
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Embarrassing is the perfect word
@lucadiego2970
@lucadiego2970 9 ай бұрын
no it's way more than just a name. For starters... Appart from F1 fans, who understands, that Alpine is renault and not just another Brand? @@massimodegrazia2192
@glensafro
@glensafro 10 ай бұрын
Spent the last year working with the new COO John Woods. He's factory operations, not on the technical side, but worth a shout out as one of the nicest and most sincere guys I've ever worked with. His Mrs makes decent mince pies too.
@Nikelaos_Khristianos
@Nikelaos_Khristianos 10 ай бұрын
I just wish they would stop faffing around with having 16 million different bosses for each employee. That’s the main advantage that teams like Williams have: They have a clear singular leader at the top that is able to delegate other jobs to more proficient people. Then he’s still able to do things like pulling an all-nighter with the crew building the carbon-floors for the cars. That’s a great example of leadership. Alpine don’t have that and haven’t had that since Briatore left. Also, I think recency bias (and a few good cars) have actually covered up how messed up this team actually was and still is. Like I’m talking about back when it was Lotus and they basically had no money to pay their drivers (which is why Kimi left.) When Renault took over the team again, that first Renault that Palmer had to drive was really not a good car and showed just how far behind Enstone were as a team. So I do think there’s more rot than seems initially apparent. Especially because they used to love claiming that their car was “only” bad because of their engine. McLaren kinda proved that wasn’t the case. It’s also so crazy when you look at how driven, talented and professional Alpine’s WEC team is. They’re like a completely different company. Plus, although you knocked their WEC team, they were only beaten by Ferrari, Porsche, Peugeot and Toyota. All those teams have a year+ amount of experience in Hypercar - Alpine beat both BMW and Lambo and got both cars to the end. It was solid.
@crazycjk
@crazycjk 10 ай бұрын
I lay a majority of blame at Laurent Rossi's doorstep. He comes across as rude and arrogant, and not somebody I'd want to work for. Definitely a "stick" rather than "carrot" management style.
@adamkenny3229
@adamkenny3229 10 ай бұрын
The irony with the Andretti rejection is so real rn
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
😬😬😬
@citedcanvas85
@citedcanvas85 10 ай бұрын
When ppl CHOOSE to leave. That tells u theres a big problem internally. I take it Fernando saw it back then and so did Oscar and Chose to leave as soon as they could
@MrGregBMX
@MrGregBMX 10 ай бұрын
And Ricciardo before that too, smart choices all around
@salmotmf
@salmotmf 10 ай бұрын
It's not good either when a company gets rid of ppl randomly (I think it's equally god damn bad)
@siimtokke3461
@siimtokke3461 10 ай бұрын
How hasn't anyone commented on 11:38. Even though I would like Andretti to get on the F1 grid, it's starting to get funny how a lot of people are suggesting them buying/ taking over Sauber, then it was Haas, then it was Sauber again, and now it's Alpine. Whoever is struggling, there will be people saying "Andretti should totally take over that team. It makes so much sense".
@joe_hutnak
@joe_hutnak 10 ай бұрын
So now Alpine has a top-heavy management structure to go along with its top-heavy car, lol.
@Zulmeh
@Zulmeh 10 ай бұрын
after cyril renault has been going downhill, he actually had believe and attempted to bring renault back to the top of f1
@aaronmachado13
@aaronmachado13 10 ай бұрын
I’m a firm believer Marcin Budkowski was the man to lead Alpine and not Otmar. When Marcin was in charge the drivers worked together , the team had leadership and while no disrespect to Otmar I had more faith in Marcin. Yes Laurent Rossi is to blame for a lot of the team’s influence. I say this as a Alpine/Renault fan and Ocon fan but the team is hard to look at and while the lows of Ferrari are hard sometimes, the lows of Alpine have been unbearable.
@wombydragony
@wombydragony 10 ай бұрын
Explains why Daniel left aswell as prost
@iceyibis4876
@iceyibis4876 10 ай бұрын
There’s 2 teams I’d be happy to loose in f1, HAAS and Alpine. If they don’t improve they should make way for teams like Andretti so they can have their chance
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 8 ай бұрын
Alpine will bounce back.
@Nickunparalleled
@Nickunparalleled 10 ай бұрын
Is the Triad Organizational concept a nod to McLaren or, hear me out, the innovative Peugeot revitalization committee: Jeremy Clarkson, James May, and Richard Hammond with little Moustaches? 😂
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
Oui oui UN COM FOR TAR BLEE
@sarimsalman2698
@sarimsalman2698 10 ай бұрын
What a fuckin' reference
@iancuk
@iancuk 10 ай бұрын
Main driver wears All-white, right?
@david3077
@david3077 9 ай бұрын
Also Otmar was putting the building blocks to improve and the higher ups just screwed everything up.
@stayoffthemarbles6790
@stayoffthemarbles6790 10 ай бұрын
This seems to be a constant issue with Renault in F1 as a whole. They want to use the team to promote their cars, but want to put no effort into actually running a team. The c suite wants to win but doesn't have the patience to follow a proper development plan and doesn't want to maintain a proper level of investment. Changing the name to Alpine is indicative of the "1 foot in /1 foot out" mentality renault has. They will always be a middling to failing outfit until something changes at the top.
@gumnaamaadmi007
@gumnaamaadmi007 9 ай бұрын
I remember Cyril saying on DTS that Renault has an entire nation behind it because the French public are the biggest shareholders of the company. And Renault wasn't the best by any means then, but they were seriously competitive in the midfield. Sad to see the decline.
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 10 ай бұрын
The fact Alain Prost left kinda says everything. Niki Lauda never left Mercedes for a reason.
@cyancut21
@cyancut21 10 ай бұрын
It’s good that at least the Renault board and their decisions are responsible for the damage to their Alpine brand this utter clusterf… of a team causes and not just poor performance from the people working at the F1 operation itself, I mean with that Enstone/Viry split and their…let’s call it communication difficulties it’s not all sunshine and rainbows at the team itself either but there definitely are a lot of highly talented people there who just deserve better than the environment the big bosses create for them
@SirGingerOfKnight
@SirGingerOfKnight 10 ай бұрын
feels reminiscent (but with even more departures!) of Ford's meddling with the Jaguar team
@tatertot9007
@tatertot9007 10 ай бұрын
Alpine feels like a series of people coming in to clean up the messes of others. I doubt they will be able to recover any time soon. Their best opportunity to hold respect is to sell their team to Andretti and have them start all over.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Andretti take that facility, those people, and run with it. But I just don't see it happening to be honest.
@ShawnFX
@ShawnFX 10 ай бұрын
​@@TommoMcCluskeywhat if all the Hollywood sponsors leave or threaten to leave unless something drastic happens like selling the team to Andretti?
@il-ma.le.
@il-ma.le. 10 ай бұрын
With an Andretti takeover we'd have a productive spilit between Viry, Enstone, and the couple of facilities, one being in the US, Andretti built to start its F1 project. Even better, if the Renault group doesn't pull out before '28 Andretti will be the de facto Renault official team in F1, breaking the deal with GM. If that's the case, I'd suggest for GM to partner with McLaren using the Chevrolet badge, this way many crybabies will stop wailing that McLaren is not backed by a Manufacturer, because many genuinely refuse to understand that 'til they'll build sportscars with an engine of their own(an old Nissan tuned by Ricardo, but that's common knoweledge by now, and maybe opens another path), no car company, even less one competing in GT classes(like Chevy is with the Corvette and the Camaro), can support them. The Nissan engie opens anogher, more straightforward path, Renault either merging or simply shutting down its structure to have McLaren as their works team. But they simply denied their last spec PUs when McLaren was their customer, because the customer was always in front of them, so not even this easy solution seems viable.
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 8 ай бұрын
Alpine will recover without Andretti. But as American, I 'd love Andretti purchase the team .
@whiteroommenace
@whiteroommenace 10 ай бұрын
I think they are reducing the cost of acquisition for andretti especially for senior personnel severance.
@leninveras9223
@leninveras9223 9 ай бұрын
Also, how uninspiring is the new Alpine Principal after firing Otmar. And the audacity of that guy on DTS to speak with such bravas as if he’d do a better job
@Zack_F1
@Zack_F1 10 ай бұрын
Every year that passes shows that alonso's move was the first good one in many years. Without el plan alpain are nothing
@Siris6771
@Siris6771 10 ай бұрын
Remember when we thought Alonso to aston martin sounded moronic?
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 10 ай бұрын
How foolish we were.
@Holoflux
@Holoflux 10 ай бұрын
But it never was? It was a sideways move at worst at the time
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 8 ай бұрын
I was one of few agreed with Piastri and Alonso's departure. I remembered the majority attacked me on Twitter.
@erdngtn9942
@erdngtn9942 10 ай бұрын
How tf do they justify keeping out Andretti with Cadillac but keep these guys and Haas around? Damnit.
@misfortuneteller24
@misfortuneteller24 9 ай бұрын
European Elitism
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 5 ай бұрын
It doesn’t make sense tbf. They’re really going out of their way to keep him out of F1. It couldn’t do any worse than those currently at the bottom of the standings.
@yashjasmat7719
@yashjasmat7719 10 ай бұрын
Letting Cyril leave was the biggest mistake. He managed to get that team going up together with Alain
@tybrock8609
@tybrock8609 10 ай бұрын
Fia in February: Andreti isnt going to be competitive despite our rules set to make formula 1 very competitive and close Alpine: the new 2019 Williams in all sessions in the first round Fia after bahrian: Yes apline are still competitive but sorry no Andretti entering cause we think they will be even slower.
@B.A.GarGar
@B.A.GarGar 10 ай бұрын
The Andretti had plans to use PU from Alpine so i think FIA is right. How can you take serious a team that wants PU from Alpine? I know America loves money and they want a slice of the cake now that in F1 was money. But if Andretti loved the sport they should have buy a force india or even lotus when F1 was struggling with money.
@ihavewaited90daystochangem51
@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 10 ай бұрын
​@@B.A.GarGar use your brain, Renault is The only customer power unit available to them because the other teams clearly don't want andretti in the sport, let alone sell their engines to them. This much is obvious.
@paul.alarner6410
@paul.alarner6410 9 ай бұрын
years ago i worked at a company called cherry products as a welder,one morning our 500amp welders were gutless,benneton were at the rear of us at enstone oxfordshire,turns out it was bennetons wind tunnel bringing the grid down,the power co put a gen set in and sent a tanker weekly to refuel it!.that was about 1998-9.
@acerock013
@acerock013 9 ай бұрын
you know F1 is in a good place when all the most interesting things are happening between race days.
@tippersimracing6070
@tippersimracing6070 10 ай бұрын
Alpine in the WEC with their brand new Hypercar with a very competitive field scored a 9th and was racing the top Toyotas and Porsches in Qatar 1812KM. If this program can work, why on earth cannot the F1 arm get it right? There is questions in whether Renault are committed to the sport.
@mertcalc3259
@mertcalc3259 10 ай бұрын
Problem is within Renault's commitment
@galaxypanda1288
@galaxypanda1288 10 ай бұрын
As someone from Indiana I’m praying for the Andretti facility just so I can have the chance to potentially work for an F1 team.
@mrbungle3310
@mrbungle3310 10 ай бұрын
As much as id love an 11th team...2022 was the year i stopped loving the enstone team...i couldn't care if they win or are p20...andretti however im a fan of theirs in indycar and im excited to see a herta in f1 or newgarden Also ocon and Gasly sure are 4/5 drivers both but i just really dont care about both...they were unlucky but their career was weird its like they already had their time even though they aren't even 30
@thefirely1439
@thefirely1439 10 ай бұрын
This may seem off topic but I miss the yellow and black car. Bring back the Renauly name and drop bwt ffs. Like they need any more money😂
@RacingBlind9
@RacingBlind9 10 ай бұрын
What brand of alpine? Don't they only make one car? That's the problem: Renault doesn't have enough confidence to label it a Renault anymore.
@barm_1995
@barm_1995 10 ай бұрын
I was expecting someone to make this video, glad to see the topic on this channel ☺️
@crxdelsolsir
@crxdelsolsir 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention losing 2 drivers that were very highly regarded. But, management uptop probably still got their bonuses and full payments. Wouldn't be surprised if they told staff below there is no wage rise or index adjustments.
@notjorn
@notjorn 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha “Mahk Wibbah” is still my favorite moment on this channel so happy you made a reference in this vid 😆
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 5 ай бұрын
Employees at the factory that makes the current power unit are calling it a stab in the back by Renault. They believe they’re close to developing an engine to compete with Mercedes and say theres currently only a 15bhp difference with a completely redesigned turbo, but they would say that tbfh. Renault clearly doesn’t think so. Its obviously sad to see such a mainstay of F1 bowing out.
@michaeldr6070
@michaeldr6070 10 ай бұрын
Rebranding the team from Renault to Alpine was the beginning of the end. No one is taking them seriously since then lol
@coffeyallday
@coffeyallday 10 ай бұрын
17:27: Great news! A lot of people have heard of Dacia, they just know it from Top Gear and pronounce it Day-see-a.
@kevinotoole3466
@kevinotoole3466 10 ай бұрын
Nice one Tommo! Great that you care
@Umar-gw6fy
@Umar-gw6fy 10 ай бұрын
Remember when they said they wanted to be the french ferrari💀
@matthiasannaberger2469
@matthiasannaberger2469 10 ай бұрын
Seriously, i just saw the w-series race Highlights, and very close racing, rear ending, a puncture from a front wing, lia crashing out, an the lead driver taking the chequered flag twice, while her engineer said nothing and loosing the win over that is such good drama, you should talk about it, especially since i dont know the Drivers, i want the drama
@andygregor345
@andygregor345 10 ай бұрын
I don’t feel bad for their celebrity ownership group at all
@Phantom-mg5cg
@Phantom-mg5cg 10 ай бұрын
I think a different structure won’t fix Alpine‘s problems. McLaren improved soon after the structural changes, but we have to remember, that McLaren started 2023 surprisingly bad after having a few strong years. So therefore the netto improvement by McLaren is much smaller. I think the changes at McLaren are more for the long term and only time will tell, if these changes are improvements.
@ollum1
@ollum1 10 ай бұрын
Your videos are very quiet compared to other creators. Other than that great work!
@AyyFuji
@AyyFuji 10 ай бұрын
I honestly think Renault/Alpine's constant 'false dawn' years, constantly seeing fairly good years across 2018-2022, but never making that step up into being a consistent race winning car, as a works team, is worse than Williams' drop off after 2014-2016. This is a full blown works team, for most of it's time in the sport, this shouldn't be happening. Alpine is partially owned by the French government, like, hello? They shouldn't be outside the Top 2 teams every year.
@NERGYStudios
@NERGYStudios 10 ай бұрын
Danny Ric was the instigator of this disaster. His departure left a clear mark on Cyril Irritable, probably the most sensible team boss in Post-Lotus Renault / Alpine era.
@pierreg8827
@pierreg8827 10 ай бұрын
As a proud frenchman, it's hard to see such an historic brand getting dragged in the dirt
@thesovereign6906
@thesovereign6906 9 ай бұрын
I never wish any f1 team to do bad but ya im not surprised by the issues Alpine is having but i do hope they improve by the next season i think its a solid opportunity for teams like Haas or Williams to finish well and get the money they desperately need to have a competive car for seasons ahead where Alpine seems like their problems are mostly coming from the top so hopefully they get more competent leadership soon and start competing in the mid field again
@UxJoy
@UxJoy 10 ай бұрын
They should just sellout to andretti and Ryan's investment firm should try and enable this. Alternatively this looks like a good moment for Porsche to get into the sport. Full acquisition. It would be good risk management and provides an exit for a system that clearly isnt working. Remember when they blamed Red Bull for a lack of performance in their engines? 🧐
@camejuanm
@camejuanm 10 ай бұрын
"100 race project" "phase 2" "three pillared approach". Seems like they are so good at creating catchy yet vague phrases.
@miggygetright6344
@miggygetright6344 10 ай бұрын
Hope they sell to Andretti, surely the famous owners would like it and would probably hope to keep their 20 something percent
@neilarmsweak
@neilarmsweak 10 ай бұрын
They need Takuma Sato
@Heisenberg_747
@Heisenberg_747 10 ай бұрын
Alpine have never been the same since Alonso left after his last WDC.
@peterfighter
@peterfighter 10 ай бұрын
since Flavio Briatore left
@soultiedinaknotiamnotme
@soultiedinaknotiamnotme 10 ай бұрын
Bring Back Cyril, there was NOT any of this during his era. he made questionable decisions but on his last year he made Renault a Podium Fighter Team.
@tomgreen876
@tomgreen876 10 ай бұрын
what they gunna do next yeah change to Peugeot? worked great moving from Renault to Alpine xD
@alexpeak16
@alexpeak16 10 ай бұрын
Look at Prost-Peugeot in the late 90s/2000 and see how dreadful they were. Alpine-Renault are going the same way.
@Bi773n
@Bi773n 10 ай бұрын
The mark webber thing made me spit. xD It was so out of nowhere :D
@lozpopo
@lozpopo 9 ай бұрын
Not giving Alonso his contract extension is probably the stupidest driver decision theyve made, his wealth of knowledge about everything to do with the car and the strategy is priceless that might have even been able to bypass the idiocy coming from the top.
@turbo_brian
@turbo_brian 10 ай бұрын
Let's get a minton and frank collab going!
@valecasini
@valecasini 10 ай бұрын
19:16 not literally right? Not literally? Right?
@grunchlk
@grunchlk 10 ай бұрын
I live in Zurich, Switzerland. It's no Monaco, but you can see exotic cars in the streets basically every day. Bentleys and Astons and Ferraris and whatnot. I have seen -1- Alpine since they have relaunched the brand. Call it Renault, get Hugues de Chaunac or Henri Pescarolo to lead the team. Paint the damn car white, yellow and black.
@flaminG-Ghost
@flaminG-Ghost 10 ай бұрын
I honestly thought Alpine was a mineral water brand like BWT and wondered by would Renault rebrand themselves to Alpine... I mean it sounds like that... Alpine has no presence in Asia (and I have lived 7 yrs in Dubai and not seen a single Alpine) unlike Renault... so I was confused... If not for F1 I don't think I would've heard of Alpine...
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass 9 ай бұрын
It's been forever this way since Renault originally sold the team after Crashgate - Enstone has been a dumpster fire ever since
@tubadude07
@tubadude07 9 ай бұрын
Got my f1M alpine save to a championship. Where’s my phone call at?😂
@lukavujeva6584
@lukavujeva6584 10 ай бұрын
The stunt with Rossi is the most intriguing. They brought an ex BCG consultant to run an F1 team.
@thesamaffliction1572
@thesamaffliction1572 9 ай бұрын
It may just be me but it almost feels like WEC and GT makes more sense for Alpine’s brand promotion than F1. I always feel like to promote sports cars you go for WEC or gt racing and use those chassis and promote the brand to more direct customers. F1 suits Renault more as it promotes the overall brand rather than the tiny niche of one car (that isn’t even that sporty even if it’s a nice car). Mercedes, Honda, Audi. Yes Ferrari and Aston are super cars but they have pedigree in racing already so for them it makes more sense. Alpine needs to build the brand first because even my family that drive Renaults don’t know alpine or what the team is designed to represent
@torent40
@torent40 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget the extra weight on the body due to failed safety test! Those allegedly 10-11kg of extra weight costs them dearly in terms of lap times
@userb3nje909
@userb3nje909 9 ай бұрын
How could you leave the 🐐 Alain Prost departue out of this. I dont know much of the internal workings of an F1 team, but once i saw he was leaving it was clear the team had massive stability issues.
@ammarisrar2005
@ammarisrar2005 10 ай бұрын
Do you think that Carlos Gosn has anything to do with the dumpster fire going on at Alpine?
@ofthenearfuture
@ofthenearfuture 10 ай бұрын
My question is tho, what brand? Alpine sells a single vehicle lol
@lucymccluskey9976
@lucymccluskey9976 10 ай бұрын
As a wise man once said this is more commonly known as …… A SHITSHOW
@fsr_taipan4587
@fsr_taipan4587 9 ай бұрын
Before slandering the A424 look at where the other new entries finished and who they beat. The A424 was pretty damn good.
@Arseization
@Arseization 10 ай бұрын
This is the result when you let important people go to satisfy board members. The fact that no other Team is buying a Renault Engine does not seem to be a factor for them but Cyril and Ottmar had to go because "the buck stops with them" Sounds very much like: "You are nothing compared to Ferrari and you keep your mouth shut" but in French...
@connorappleton1945
@connorappleton1945 10 ай бұрын
Only one man can save Alpine now.... Fock
@98Nedeljko
@98Nedeljko 10 ай бұрын
The only hope they have is 2026 regulation change but they have to keep the same structure from at least 2025 to get some stability in the team
@JMRope
@JMRope 10 ай бұрын
It is genuinely disappointing that Renault doesn't want to put any effort in to their F1 team. I guess the good news is that neither of their drivers will want to stay giving Jack Doohan a good chance of getting a chance in F1. I just hope the car isn't so bad it destroys his career before it even begins.
@danielwilson7448
@danielwilson7448 10 ай бұрын
And I get a mint mobile ad during this vid 😂😂😂
@claude6782
@claude6782 10 ай бұрын
tommo i love you wanted to be the first to let you know about ur banger drive prediction 😌
@CedView
@CedView 10 ай бұрын
From what I understand, like Renault (correct me if I'm wrong), Alpin will go all-electric. So if the F1 team doesn't improve soon, they won't have much to gain from having an F1 team. The technology of 2026 doesn't matter for their road cars. The only thing they stand to gain is cost and bad publicity because they suck.
@Miguel-yf4yc
@Miguel-yf4yc 10 ай бұрын
Wasn’t this years car under otmars direction
@JAY-RIZZY
@JAY-RIZZY 10 ай бұрын
16:18 See, the thing is: Private teams might afford to screw around for a bit. That is easily excused. But Alpine are not a private team. They are a works team and therefore should be judged by that standard. And comparing them to the other works teams (Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull), their track record ist just pathetic.
@ThatGuyGloomy
@ThatGuyGloomy 10 ай бұрын
Switching to alpine was a mistake im the first place. Those yellow renault cars popped and they were better beforehand. Ik that this has 0 merit but they just were better in yellow😂
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