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@thedevourer.7 ай бұрын
The custodes have full access to the emperors armoury too a lot of stuff there we never seen him use
@nofuxgivens27977 ай бұрын
It's kinda.funny that they basically gave The lion, Melinda's Full Counter, in form of a shield
@jayday14807 ай бұрын
Who do you think will be the next loyalist primach to receive a permanent death?
@JoshuaKevinPerry7 ай бұрын
We should have gone over the Emperors equipment in the opening.
@wtfu4207 ай бұрын
Like your vids very much! Keep'em coming and PLEASE do a vid about alpha l.: Youre humble fan👍🙏⚘️🇫🇮
@Party4Lemons7 ай бұрын
I can imagine Jaghatai receiving the Emperor's Harley Davidson actually
@MrJameslupien7 ай бұрын
He would want something fast. Harleys are the exact opposite of fast.
@YaBoyYeti7 ай бұрын
@@MrJameslupien he gets the Kaneda Bike
@Silver_Crow22957 ай бұрын
Nah a tuned vespa 😎
@nate7427 ай бұрын
Yay. Bike.
@Saf_Ibn_Sayyad_Bacon7 ай бұрын
Using actually is cringe bro 😅
@MrJameslupien7 ай бұрын
Each primarch is going to get something of the emperors gear. and in the finale theyre all going to combine into a primarch megazord.
@zorba-d-geek7 ай бұрын
Or by their powers combined, Captain Terra.
@chengchin50737 ай бұрын
Nah I'm just a devout believer of Big E so classic response is when all piece are together they will summon Exodia the Forbidden one 😂
@erickgarza33706 ай бұрын
GO GO PRIMARCH RANGERS!
@df65976 ай бұрын
Maybe their sacrifice is necessary for the return of the Emperor.
@ajz2k6 ай бұрын
Kek
@johnlocke94377 ай бұрын
I think Lion has the shield because he's the duelist, it forces him to see and do things differently. Same with Roboute, an administrator given a warriors weapon.
@inquisitorgrynthebandito27367 ай бұрын
That's why I think Russ will get the cloak.
@lukkaredwolf35347 ай бұрын
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736I mean, depending on how close they want to track historical Scandinavian lore, a cloak would be VERY appropriate for Russ.
@warpflames78117 ай бұрын
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736 stealth viking? The same russ that lowers shields on his ship on purpose.
@maltheri98337 ай бұрын
It'd cover a deficiency he doesn't have. Wouldn't make much sense to give it to Jaghatai who is already fast as light or Corvus who's already invisible.
@inquisitorgrynthebandito27367 ай бұрын
@warpflames7811 entirely the point. These gifts do not play off their strengths, it fills their gaps
@inquisitorgrynthebandito27367 ай бұрын
Cloak to Russ, a reminder that he doesnt always need to be the biggest and loudest in the room.
@mikeseymour17927 ай бұрын
He kind of does, I think, because of his roll.
@inquisitorgrynthebandito27367 ай бұрын
@mikeseymour1792 na, there's others who can do the talking in a way that people don't feel threatened or intimidated. Sometimes the best thing a guard dog can do is lay quietly in the corner and watch.
@MrZuriax7 ай бұрын
I think it's interesting that the relics Guilliman and The Lion wield shore up the gaps in their war kit and are emblematic of their purpose in the new Dark Imperium. Guilliman launched a new crusade, an offensive blade strike against the enemies of humanity. The Lion and his protectorate seeks to shield humanity from the darkness of the 41st millennium. Makes me wonder what awaits future returned Primarchs. Hope it continues to subvert expectations. I've also thought for a while that the flames of the Emperor's sword aren't solely being fueled by his power. The Dark Imperium trilogy brings up the fate defying power of Guilliman's will more than a few times. I think that fire within is Gulliman's influence on the warp manifesting and also fueling the sword along with his father.
@BleachCowboy20167 ай бұрын
it's a solid explanation for why they got the weapons they did. Although in reality I think this happened because GW hadn't planned the story far enough ahead.
@Aloysius107 ай бұрын
And Sanguinius will get The emperors armor.
@skywillfindyou7 ай бұрын
I think it shouldn't even be an artifact or weapon for each of them exactly. He just left a path for them, the mission, as part of His plan. For some He may leave instruction, for other knowledge, for another - a place? Ability to move (though Lion have it)? Brothers? Solutions? Wisdom? Opportunity? It could be anything, part of bigger game.
@StumpyDaPaladin7 ай бұрын
I agree with the reverted expectation trope. It would appear that the primarchs are going to be all over the galaxy as they make their returns. And it should be noted that many of them have been through some "opportunities for personal growth" So any of the emperors wargear that they get is to shore up a deficiency rather than enhance whatever their "best" feature may be. While little is directly said about their construction, the primarchs in a nutshell are the best possible meat suits for a bunch of warp spawned "Platonic Ideals" that managed a certain amount of conciousness because belief gets you power in the warp. Just look at the (relative) tiny amount of humans (and others) that exist within the tau empire. And from that we get a warp manifestation of "The Greater Good". So how hard is it for the Emperor (as 8000 psykers in a human looking Tenchcoat) to go to Moloc and bargain with those warp entities/minor gods/ancient animal spirits/jungian archetypes that for whatever reasons dont much care for the 4 major chaos powers. and somehow got 21 of them to sign up for the finest possible *human* suit in exchange for fealty to not just an emperor but The Emperor. Master of *Human* kind. (that last bit was a bit sticky for some) Sure Guilliman is wrapped up in roman splendor (because WG writers are brits) but he could just as much be an embodiment of the Han Celestial Bureaucracy. Take everything you (and everyone else) thinks they know about ravens and bundle it up in one primarch named Raven Raven. Spooky stories about predators that gain eternal life by consuming the life blood of others are as old as fire so of course you get vampire counts in space or Sanguineous. The once and future king of yore and all the regality that inspires is the Lion of course.
@stormycatmink7 ай бұрын
I agree; I think it's actually far more interesting when the gifts aren't the 'obvious choice'. IE, Vulcan getting a flamer or Corvax getting some stealth cloak would all be pretty disappointing and bland. Oh look Corax is now more Corvus. Kinda shallow. If they got something that adds breadth to the primarchs, that would be far more interesting.
@chucklytell7 ай бұрын
"And to my unknowable but undeniably loyal son Jaghatai I bequeath the dark age of technology lightspeed megabike Incineratus, may he continue to run laps around the enemies of humanity as the only thing that cuts deeper than his perfect strikes are his merciless insults!"
@darthkaton7 ай бұрын
Jaghatai: Yay, bike!
@SuperCallum1127 ай бұрын
If each terminator gets a small piece of the Emperor's armour, I think the most pertinent question is: which legion got the Emperor's codpiece?
@daniellandon6811Ай бұрын
We all know that Tyberos wears that
@cynreiusacari31637 ай бұрын
Trazyn adds each piece to shopping cart. 😂
@maxd.94557 ай бұрын
I wouldn't even be surprised if he already had some of the old gear. Maybe the emperors bolter
@94EyeEagle7 ай бұрын
hopefully just wishlist 🤣🤣
@AAC17147 ай бұрын
Would trazyn actually be bold enough to try and capture the emperor ?
@cynreiusacari31637 ай бұрын
@@AAC1714 Always.
@usurparemagnus7 ай бұрын
@@AAC1714if he thinks he can pull it off, he’s doing it 😂 he definitely wants to check out the golden throne
@mrbreck17 ай бұрын
Dont forget dorn collected a pair of hands from alpharius prior to introducing storms teeth to his skull. Dorn may well have both of his hands. They have retconned the status of dorns body several times. Once from being a whole body preserved in amber and then to just a hand with chapter masters names engraved upon it. I can see a further retcon where the hand was alpharius all along.
@johnlocke94377 ай бұрын
Dorn is getting the gauntlet, it'll magnify his warp suppression power
@andreasnielsen7327 ай бұрын
Since his Magic Pain Glove was destroyed, i'd say it's a suitable replacement!
@brooklynkeith28777 ай бұрын
Im just wondering who will be gifted Big E's Master Crafted Boltgun
@lborlet52047 ай бұрын
@@brooklynkeith2877my guess would be whichever of the alpha legion brothers is actually loyal
@KillerOrca7 ай бұрын
"Im going to use my Warp powers-" "NO" And no Warp powers were used.
@JoshuaKevinPerry7 ай бұрын
@@brooklynkeith2877Volkite Gun, surely he didn't use a bolter
@eiric69587 ай бұрын
Vulkan could get Emperor's (Dark age tech) forge. Imagine what he could cook up in there.
@zorba-d-geek7 ай бұрын
Aeldari?
@undercovertakodachi43017 ай бұрын
@@zorba-d-geek child Aeldari...
@eiric69587 ай бұрын
@@zorba-d-geek Over promethium 😂
@warpflames78117 ай бұрын
My guess for vulkan would be the gauntlets because whats scarier then vulkan with a hammer and warpfires
@derekbidelman24427 ай бұрын
Vulcan should get the underware, that way when he regenerates he won't be flopping about scaring everyone with his...big...war hammer...
@drewfincher90707 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the Kahn getting the emperor’s halo that acts as a warp beacon and he becomes the emperor’s comet flying across imperium nihilus stitching that part of the galaxy back together, and Dorn getting the claw could represent him having to make his sons more proactive and having to struggle with the fact that he’s started asking himself what would perturabo do against this threat
@dean_l3316 күн бұрын
What would Corax and loyal Alpharious/Omegon get then?
@TheEmperorProtects3077 ай бұрын
I bet when my boy Vulkan will come back he will get the shard that the emperor casted away so he can give more hugs.
@McChickenJOI7 ай бұрын
the emperor's hand me down sweater
@jonathanryan99467 ай бұрын
Plus a flamer with psyker fire... to prevent people from escaping hug range.
@LeCharles077 ай бұрын
Jaghatai Khan gets the Emperor's Air Jordans and they have a flubber sole so he doesn't *need* a jet bike.
@Xhumed6 ай бұрын
The Emperor's Heelies.
@changer_of_ways_9997 ай бұрын
Obviously, Corax gets the talon because he's like a literal bird now and Dorn gets the gauntlet because of course the Imperial Fist gets a literal imperial fist.
@inquisitorgrynthebandito27367 ай бұрын
I foresee that the emperor's gifts being some sort of balance and lesson for them. The Lion needs to learn that sometimes defending is the best thing he can do and Guilleman needs to learn to strike when the iron is hot so to speak.😊
@MandoSki4647 ай бұрын
I think the cloak should go to whichever twin primarch is a loyalist be it alpharius or omegon. That seems like it would be a good fit given the cloak and dagger style of the alpha legion
@Xhumed6 ай бұрын
They're already good at that, the Emperor's gifts seem to subvert each Primarch's style, to force them to change it up. So Alpharius or Omegon get the Emperor's blingiest item, or maybe the loudest- the Emperor's B.C. Rich guitar collection, along with Big E's Big Amps. The Noise Marines shake with jealousy.
@dean_l3316 күн бұрын
@@Xhumed His helemet or laurel or oh maybe his banner
@nicolasalarcon55387 ай бұрын
The smirk you do when you tell Guilliman says he's going to kill Nurgle, it shows how much you can"t wait for that to be told ; and what incredible story this will be. Your passion for this lore is really REALLY communicative mate, thanks so much for that !
@SandmanofTerra7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I hope it comes across
@RJM13197 ай бұрын
Feel like the cloak going to Leman would fit him moving into a more Odin like character as well as finally accepting the spear
@radiojinn6447 ай бұрын
I posted it just a few minutes ago but in a new space wolf book during a battle ragnar blackmane throws russ's spear into the warp and into magnus's eye closing a hole into the warp. So its in thousand son warp territory rn, if russ gets it back theres plenty of story potential on retrieving it right now but right now its unlikely hes going to get it back soon(if he returns soon)
@carlosalbertosimba68937 ай бұрын
I feel that Vulcan should get the emperor's hair. Would make him OP
@McChickenJOI7 ай бұрын
if only horus got it...
@Stonecold3007 ай бұрын
@@McChickenJOI Male pattern baldness does things to people, unless you were bald to begin with.
@langleysenterprise51346 ай бұрын
I think the one who would have gotten the Emperor's hair would have been Lorgar. If only he did not land in Colchis
@tra7797 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure it's hinted that Russ has psychic gifts already, his howl makes Thousand sons literally explode and he seems to have a very high immunity to psychic attacks hence why he bodies an enraged Magnus on Prospero. It would make sense too as if Russ was made to kill other primarchs he'd need to be able to combat their special gifts too
@aligaterr51377 ай бұрын
Leman Russ is Morkai or Morkai is Russ, I'm certain
@tra7797 ай бұрын
@@aligaterr5137 I've never thought of that but you might be onto something there. Psychic powers in warhammer are based on belief, orks believe red ones go faster so they do, Rune Preists and Stormseers believe they're not channelling the warp but the planets spirit or the storm and that seems to make it true. Maybe Russ' or the fenrisians latent powers have manifested as the wolf spirits they believe in.
@aligaterr51377 ай бұрын
@@tra779 as far as I understand it, rune-priests channel warp stuff though Morkai as a middleman of sorts, instead of from warp directly, that is why they don't label themselves as librarians.
@tra7797 ай бұрын
Yeah there's a bit in one of the Chris Wraight books I can't remember which one I think it's the first of the trilogy he did, where a navigator talks about how the Space Wolves belief that their talismans protect them actually mean they work and they insinuate that the beliefs of the rune priests might work in a similar way. It's been a while since I read it though
@DaniMol7 ай бұрын
It's like poetry, it rhymes. Having Horus' descent start with a fake Seganus and having it end with a fake Loken was glorious. I do hope Sanguinius and Ferrus never come back and rather continue to exist and impact the setting as ghosts and legends. The final moment of Ferrus guiding Sanguinius to the fight was incredible.
@Ewil.Bluetooth7 ай бұрын
It's an pretty awesome little scene when Lion takes up the shield for the first time. When he feels how incredibly powerful and aware of everything the Emperor was even as a human back in the days. The thing that bothers me is that they haven't explained or mentioned his new power armor. It doesn't feel like it's the armor he's wearing when he wakes up, based on the little description we get there.🤔
@vitaliyred6227 ай бұрын
All the Primarchs and even Emperor had so many weapons and relics they used. His claw is going to Corax 100%. His spear will be given to Russ, to make him Odin of Warhammer, he just needs to loose an eye.
@klaykid1177 ай бұрын
I feel like Leman Russ is going to come back at the same time as corax and they've probably met up in the warp giving the whole Odin and his seeing Raven theme
@charlotte-mg9wj7 ай бұрын
I'd like to see Rogal Dorn use one of the gauntlets to replace his missing hand Evil Dead style.
@commissaryarrick96707 ай бұрын
He already gave russ a spear and russ Hated it .
@leonhardable7 ай бұрын
@@commissaryarrick9670because russ needs a hammer to like it. much more similar to thor than odin.
@radlad59997 ай бұрын
@@commissaryarrick9670 it's because of a prophesy of him dying with him wielding said spear right?
@xzenitramx6667 ай бұрын
Mortarion doesnt know shit. He believes that his free.
@eiric69587 ай бұрын
I think he is the best person to know shit literally 😂
@xzenitramx6667 ай бұрын
@@eiric6958 lol, true,true.
@isaiahkayode65267 ай бұрын
@@eiric6958 Causes he full of shit who lives in Bigger Shit.
@bengeorge90636 ай бұрын
He was a whiny turd as a Primarch and still a whiny turd as a demon primarch.
@pedropierre95944 ай бұрын
Morty when the emperors sword cuts his arm off and it doesn’t regrow: 🗿
@jonathanryan99467 ай бұрын
Vulkan gets... a flamer. With holy psyker fire, something he can't forge. That can permanently kill demons and melt even necrons, but doesn't harm loyalists.
@Subject_Keter3 ай бұрын
That like perfect. Doe ... I kinda wonder if Vulcan found the Dark Age of Tech setup Big E had. Or like a Codex he set aside for someone to use later on.
@Steezyjo5107 ай бұрын
Managed to live long enough to see The Lion return now i just gotta hold out till the meeting with G man
@paddywop9187 ай бұрын
What sacrifice did Sanguinius make. According to the new lore, all he did was die. He didn't create a nic in the armor to aid in horus' defeat and the emperor had already removed his emotions before seeing him.
@ShloppyShmeat7 ай бұрын
His death is the sacrifice... he knew he was going to die from the very beginning, but still went willingly because the alternative was forsaking his father and turning to chaos. He sets an example for the surviving loyal sons and the rest of the imperium.
@hpph71332 ай бұрын
The old lore was always meant to be potentially unreliable and romanticized mythology, hence the frequently contradictory tales. This is why the new novels kill a lot of the aura for outright saying what actually happened.
@dean_l3316 күн бұрын
@@hpph7133 And for the better as now Horus is actually the threat he was hyped up to be. Though there's a hint that he was posessed by the 4 when Horus decided to stop playing around
@TheFuel897 ай бұрын
Emperor's talon confirms Corax is coming back.
@McChickenJOI7 ай бұрын
not him already appearing in that novel then?
@TheUnfallenHero7 ай бұрын
The emperor's halo as a frisbee for Sanguinius 😂
@Addonexacy7 ай бұрын
Ferrus comes back and gets the emp's helmet
@aligaterr51377 ай бұрын
I hope so, that is funny Edit: it might be the helmet really, imagine Ferrus's body revived, his soul re-attached and his head is a slightly above neck floating (undecapitable) helmet. His brain (secretly) replaced by machinery and althought Ferrus would be back, it would be artificial version of his (granted with his OG soul) that would lack emotions and humanity, finishing the circle of tragedy of iron hands, as he would not fix their mentality but even more solidify it.
@undercovertakodachi43017 ай бұрын
give him an Iron Neck.
@dean_l3316 күн бұрын
@@undercovertakodachi4301 Maybe no body augmentation is for the best
@anshumanbose51327 ай бұрын
Wrt Leman Russ. If Leman Russ is coming back as Odin, then we need to remember that Odin's signature weapon is Gugnir, his spear. Leman already has a spear, the Apollonian spear. That might really be his gift from the emperor. Wrt to Dorn, the power claw makes the most sense. Wrt to the Khan, the cloak might enhance his combat abilities. By literally becoming an invisible speedster. And it somehow fits. I dunno why. Corax might get the bolter. A long distance sniper with the emperor's bolter perhaps? Wrt to Vulcan, the Halo might make the most sense. Enhance the defense of the primarch who dies a lot.
@tra7797 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Russ even calls the spear gungnir in Wolfsbane
@FoxHound-ut1hu7 ай бұрын
It's true name that was revealed to Russ in the warp was Gungnir
@Just_Pele7 ай бұрын
The claw for Corvis is perfect, and it can be one of his feet when he's in big daemonic bird form.
@undercovertakodachi43017 ай бұрын
imagine if It can just stunlock demons that would be awesome. he will have something to Catch Lorgar.
@alasdaircook30307 ай бұрын
I reckon dorn gets it to replace his hand
@Brakvash7 ай бұрын
When I read "Corvis" all I could hear was Vulcan in "If The Emperor Had TTS"
@omoroburns21727 ай бұрын
I want Perturabo to come back with a ship bigger than the phalanx called the manipulis or something.
@someguy44057 ай бұрын
He would 100,000% do that and then become frustrated when he finds out Dorn's not around anymore so he can't rub it in his face.
@Xhumed6 ай бұрын
Comes back and gets the Emperor's pauldron to carry that massive chip on his shoulder.
@quahodron27567 ай бұрын
The Khan gets the emperors wheelchair.
@andrewfornes53207 ай бұрын
lmao. I instantly pictured that.
@daniellavarier27806 ай бұрын
As he rides into battle laughing like a mad man
@dean_l3316 күн бұрын
Iron lung more like
@brianhurley8907 ай бұрын
The lion received the shield with one part of the eagle. It would make sense if Lehman Russ returned with a blinded eagle on his Wargeae to reinforce the Odin metaphor
@leonhardable7 ай бұрын
Odin was more than one eyed. And i know people tend to make the Pack into Vikings, but Lemann and Odin are vastly different. Odin is the allfather and considered the wisest being in the nordic legends, a reserved and just god. he even nailed himself to yggdrasil for a few days to gain runic and magic knowledge. Yes Odin was fierce on the battlefield too, but the similarities pretty much end there. Lemann is Odin on Crack. edit: Thor. I knew i was missing an obvious one.
@brianhurley8907 ай бұрын
@@leonhardable I was talking about the part of the video where he mentions that Lehman may come back as more of an Odin type figure whereas he was more a Thor type of figure in the heresy
@MegaHI327 ай бұрын
The Spear of Russ is sorta a reference to Leman Russ beginning to change from Thor to Odin in the Lore. We know Russ doesn't like using it originally, but now it has connections to the King in Yellow, so I'd not be surprised to find out that the Spear of Russ actually is a Force Weapon that Russ could naturally tap into by his connection with the Warp
@aloaloings55967 ай бұрын
Russ gets the Emperor’s collar
@cgrw16 ай бұрын
Or he gets the cloak, and becomes the eagle others are blind to
@DiskoWizard7 ай бұрын
I think it’d be cool if Corvus got the Emperor’s gauntlets and they became lightning claws!
@SimpleJack-zs7ko7 ай бұрын
Vulcan gets the big E’s lab coat. Russ gets the claw to shoot lightning like the Emperor. ( Odin/Thor) Dorn gets the Emperors Aegis to restore his body and mind after blaming himself for failing his father and humanity, also for losing to Perty. Kahn the Emperors super bike Corax maybe his wreath to focus that warp raven power, he can only use that form in the warp or am I mistaken?
@GotrekGurnisson7 ай бұрын
Are you on the theory train that the forces of order and faith will get a pantheon? Ragnar Blackmane briefly wielded the Spear. He cast it into Magnus’ Eye and it was lost when the Daemon Primarch fell back through the portal. I would be surprised if we don’t see an Axe show up eventually. Ferrus is the primarch the imperium needs most right now. Think how much he could boost guilliman or the lion. He’s the support of the imperium
@paulleader47 ай бұрын
All fun and games until we deck the lion out in EVERYTHING.
@BigSlippery7 ай бұрын
I would guess the emporers' equipment will be to fill in the flaws of each individual primarch, making them as well rounded as possible
@NecroJayJay7 ай бұрын
I want a canon nurgle demolition specific unit, but they all just regular guardsmen who are doctors with Guilliman commanding it 😂
@xzenitramx6667 ай бұрын
Jos going to need some blanks.
@robluxipiech40337 ай бұрын
The spears were to me, a wonderful detail. In the lore. People naturally crave the details, we've been so, so lucky because we have decades of gradual lore at our fingertips right now, so waiting patiently has become for lack of a better term, a forgotten trait that made the lore so enjoyable. The spears to me are a perfect pace, it says, "I'm a special relic, this is what I do, this is how I work, you don't know why I was created, or what my destiny entails, but I have been important in the begining and I'll be important in the end", and I love that.
@be13947 ай бұрын
Perturabo could fix the golden throne, he could look at something and know how to make it better instantly.
@leonhardable7 ай бұрын
Every Primarch is a scaled down (!) aspect of big E. And even Big E himself didnt understand the core of the throne
@noobatgames33217 ай бұрын
@@leonhardablethe golden throne isn't one object or technological device. its a hodgepodge collection of macanial and physical components. i think he czn fix the individual components
@undercovertakodachi43017 ай бұрын
@@noobatgames3321the thing about Perty although he understands It he cannot create the complexity of the parts of It and that is Where Vulcan Excell the Intriquet little details that makes things perfect.
@kalinkrause83887 ай бұрын
What about Vulkan getting big E’s smithing gear to imbue abilities into the left over scraps of armor? So he could make Dorn a power fist. Also, what about Dorn getting the helmet? 1 - it’s the only thing missing from his gear in the last model and would match 2 - it would give him foresight the would make his tactical acumen even more impressive 3 - him going into battle without anyone being able to see his face/emotions would match with his stoic personality.?!
@derekbidelman24427 ай бұрын
If Corvas has 2 power claws, how is he gonna pick his nose or scratch his ars? As Baldermort would say (that could be ouchie)
@Nonplussed7 ай бұрын
Russ needs a new cod piece. The wolf one kinda chaffs.
@davidschuc7 ай бұрын
Perhaps Vulcan will receive the emperors left goblet. Simply because it’s quite likely that when he returns, he will still have tremendous energy left over from the great wog. And will need a way to either suppress it, or direct it.
@carllong89547 ай бұрын
The speculation quickly recalibrated to the wargear strengthening their strengths. It seems like the first 2 shored up weaknesses.
@diogenesfr28527 ай бұрын
The idea of the eagle for Jaghatai Khan was sensational, like a magical eagle with the essence of the Emperor, too badass. Imagine the creative arts that artists could create would be incredible. Not to mention a future book/novel about this would be breathtaking.
@vulfpet35687 ай бұрын
Going with the idea that the emperor's new gifts are setting the precidents for the new roles of the primarchs, gulliman getting the sword as a revenger who's striking back against chaos, lion getting the shield as a guardian who is protecting people and even his own fallen sons, I'd like to think that the gifts the others recieve could be entirely unexpected and something which changes them in a big way. If Dorn was away performing some secret mission for the Emperor, perhaps he actually got the cloak and that allowed him to apply subtle and stealthy tactics which were never really his forte previously. The crown/wreath going to Russ and granting him a clarity of mind and defence against being influenced would make sense to me, as he was known to act without much thought previously. It would force him to view himself no longer as just a weapon and to decide his own battles without being told what to do or tricked into them. I think he will give the spear to someone else, he never liked it anyway. Strangely enough, I feel like Apharius could have it. The master of trickery and deception getting a spear which reveals truth would be quite interesting. Khan recieving the eagle is a really cool image which I hope comes true. If that is the case, I think the thing he was always missing was teamwork and cooperation with his brothers. He was always the outsider primach and distanced himself, which kinda lead to a lack of action being taken during the heresy. Perhaps the eagle might have more of a messenger role or something, showing Khan that he can't just stand alone anymore. Corax is very hard to decide on because it's not even clear what he is anymore. Perhaps the bolter just as a reminder. He's spent so long in the eye as some bizzare warp entity, it's possible he'll need a reminder of the foundations which the astartes legions were built on. I think Vulkan getting some portion of the armor would make sense, for him to reforge himself. It could even be symbolic if he wears it of the emperor telling him to protect himself. He's well known for throwing himself into the enemy to protect others but perhaps he needs to value himself more and be more strategic in the way he protects, especially after Kurze used this nature of his to torture him in the maze. And Ferrus can get the claw because he deserves some revenge.
@DrankenDune7 ай бұрын
I think that the symbolism from who get which gift is this. The Lion gets the shield because he is the one who will end up being seen as the defender of the Imperium. Guilliman gets the sword because he is the one who will defeat the enemies of the Imperium. This is all around their actions but I can see this playing out. I say defeat the enemies, and by that I mean strengthening the Imperium so it can be a lasting victory.
@SuperUniverse7 ай бұрын
Leman Will definitely inheriy The Emperor's Spear, The spear that almost defeated Horus.
@jeremyhess79777 ай бұрын
Russ already has the Dionysian Spear.
@SuperUniverse7 ай бұрын
@@jeremyhess7977 Awesome! It would be poetic if he used it against Horus' legion in the future :)
@radiojinn6447 ай бұрын
@@jeremyhess7977if its to be believed that spear was thrown by ragnar blackmane into the warp and into magnus during an invasion of a planet in the book grey hunter part of ragnar blackmanes book series
@mindgame6087 ай бұрын
Vulcan coming back, looks at the technoligy of the imperium and just goes: "look how they massacred my boy!"
@Damingo547 ай бұрын
LOVE the idea of the Primarchs inheriting a piece of the emperors kit
@mralexsp15177 ай бұрын
Vulkan gets access to the Emperor's personal workshop, makes a TTS device, boom no more word vomit on his part, clear and concise sentences for all to hear.
@mr.morden6667 ай бұрын
Listening while painting. Excellent storytelling as always.
@radiojinn6447 ай бұрын
I dont know if someone else has said this yet but in the space wolves novel "grey hunter" russ's spear actually was placed on the death spot of one of his original wolf brothers and it became a holy site protected by the space wolves for the day russ comes back he would retrieve his spear for the wolf time. However in that novel magnus is trying to take over the planet it is on and during a battle between thousand sons and space wolves there is a portal connected straight to magnus as hes trying to come to real space and ragnar blackmane throws russ's spear into the portal and into magnus's one eye, breaking his concentration and closing the connection to reality. So no clue if russ will ever see the spear again but thats where it is in current day.
@lukkaredwolf35347 ай бұрын
I believe in the lore, it is stated that the spear always finds it's way back to Russ
@lukkaredwolf35347 ай бұрын
I posted part of this in a reply, but felt that it should be a comment all by itself. Of items that a Primarch could get, Leman should get the cloak. For a few reasons, both in lore and outside of lore. 1) If i remember correctly, one of the first things noticed about the Emperor when he showed up to Fenris, was him being cloaked or concealed. This would be an excellent call back to that. 2) As mentioned in the video, the gifts seem to be shoring up a Primarch's weaknesses, rather than expounding on their strengths. Leman shouldn't get a weapon, as for all intents and purposes, he was a fairly decent fighter. He also wasn't known as a duelist, as the Lion was, and in fact tried to use his men in strategic ways to teach lessons on at least one occasion. 3) A cloak will not seem out of line with his current (30k) rainment, so that wont cause disparity. 4) Real World lore, a specific use of a cloak was an important piece of actual Scandinavian lore, that being linked to a chieftain spending days underneath one in rumination refarding the future of Iceland, a land which has a few parallels with Fenris. Speculative reasonings: Choice a) Leman comes back haggard from his time in the warp. He still takes the fight to the foes of Humanity, but by being cloaked in a form that is non-descriptive and wielding a spear that can provide wisdom to those struck, he can fulfill his character arc. Choice b: Leman spent a lot of time in the warp. Just like Corvus has been altered, Leman has been altered. His outshell is more beast than man, and the cloak helps conceal this. Just thoughts.
@christopheraaron12557 ай бұрын
I wouldn't conflate the cloak with cloaking. A cloak could be booster of leadership/command. It could also be a protective device.
@HexaDecimus7 ай бұрын
The best gift you can give a craftsman is a tool he can use to make other tools.
@werty48957 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the whole pandemonium part of Valdor being possibly tied into here. Since both Valdor and Russ are linked by their spears
@legonwood7 ай бұрын
Be interesting to me if Rogal Dorn is guarding the void dragon since one of the fan theories as to where he is is on Terra guarding the emperor since he feels ashamed for failing to reach the bridge in time.
@thebayandurpoghosyanshow7 ай бұрын
Angron's gonna get the Emperor's smelly socks, because he has been a particularly naughty boy.
@undercovertakodachi43017 ай бұрын
perty gets the Red shiny Nose ball, because he is the emperor's Funniest Clown.
@thebayandurpoghosyanshow7 ай бұрын
@@undercovertakodachi4301 only if Fulgrim gets the golden buttplug.
@thebayandurpoghosyanshow7 ай бұрын
@@undercovertakodachi4301 only if Fulgrim gets the golden buttplug.
@Xhumed6 ай бұрын
Angron gets the Emperor's Rubix Cube, to teach him patience.
@alundra117 ай бұрын
If they bought back konrad curze I can see him getting the cloak. I just finished his primache book and it mentions him always just wearing a cloak of feathers, plus like you mentioned, he hates his brother because of his natural steath. And that cloak would make him true batman of 40k. It never mentions his death either... I don't think just that he is waiting for it. I am still pretty new, so I could be wrong.
@richroll98947 ай бұрын
Khan looked down pensively at the crate, golden eagles emblazoned on the sides with rich jewels and silver filigree along its edges. He ran his heavy hands across the surface, sensing the power emanating from within. Slowly he unfastened the garish clasp of the chest and began creaking the lid up. As he did so, a bright golden beam of light spilled out from within the box, cutting through the heavy fog of the Webway and filling the chamber with a soft amber glow that grew more and more radiant as the box opened fully. Squinting his eyes in response to the nova-like brilliance of the box’s contents, the shape slowly came into focus as his Gen-hanced eyes adjusted rapidly to his newfound treasure. It was then he took notice of the runic wards etched along the sides of his father’s gift, studded in pure psionic pearl, were the sigils ‘HEELIES’.”
@pamewАй бұрын
The lion basically went from being an honorable and incredible dualist to an unstoppable line fighting siege knight. Like you said, the psychic morphing of the shield to a knightly kite shield design has huge significance. Old man paladin Lion'el is awesome and I love him.
@LetsFigureIt0ut7 ай бұрын
I personally like the idea of dorn coming back closer to the templars. He's often seen as very literal and blunt. Factual and pragmatic. So, in light of the likely ascension of the emperor, it would be interesting to see him act on faith as well. Maybe something of an emperors champion of the primarchs? I feel that would be good closure after he was kind of forcefully ousted of leadership by Robute it could just be interesting. The scrimshawed hand acting as a bionic could be cool as a reminder of his sons stalwart faith in him after the cage incident too.
@inquisitorgrynthebandito27367 ай бұрын
Khan gets something like a sniper rifle, something that keeps him still and focused.
@hexaquras93747 ай бұрын
If Magnus were to be loyal again, I bet the emperor just hands him the throne, or probably not can't trust him to do nothing
@GI7GAM3SH7 ай бұрын
🤔 Corax or Dorn (if still alive/ one-handed) should get the Emperor's talon lightning claw. Also the spear was given as a gift to Russ. So I don't count it as part of the Emperor's wargear. However, after Russ disappeared, the Wolves found his armor during one of the great hunts at some daemon world. What if Russ gets the Emperor's golden armor?
Which Primarch gets what has to work within the established visual language of that model. The Lion is a knight, he got a shield, for example. Russ is a Norseman, so the cloak would fit but those classical laurels wouldn’t. I love the idea of The Khan getting an actual eagle, because it links to his scene with Admiral Su-Kassen’s pet hawk as well as to the falconers in his chapter.
@gothicshark7 ай бұрын
my theory with Sanguinius solves the oddity of how Dante has never fallen to the Red Thirst. And we can thank Girlyman for this, but a piece of Sanguinius soul was used to make the Sanguinor I suspect Dante is a partial reincarnation of Sanguinius, either the piece not used to make the Sanguinor, or the piece used in the Sanguinor. And to raise Sanguinius again Dante and the missing piece of Sanguinius must be reunited with the body. Which means Dante will probably have to die to get him back.
@peterallen55757 ай бұрын
If they bring Ferrus Manus back (and I'm ambivalent about it), I want to see him come back as a Primarch Dreadnought, probably equipped with at least one of the Emperor's Dark Age weapons mounted on it. I could also see Rogal Dorn getting the Emperor's armor (the whole Crux Terminatus thing just being a myth that the Astartes believe) since it not only fits his archetype of being a castellan and defender, but the gold armor fits the Imperial Fists aesthetic better than any of the other First Founding chapters' except for possibly the Blood Angels.
@RosarioAFK7 ай бұрын
Maybe the Cloak of the Emperor let's the user gain his ability to appear as what they need to appear as letting Corax still appear in his human form, not the Demonic Raven. Maybe he could take on other appearances as well.
@GabrielLopez-mo2xo7 ай бұрын
Sanguinius should not come back until the end times…as himself. The way to make best use for him is to say that his soul (our at least most of it) was bonded to the fragment of the emperors soul that would be called the star child. This is the perfect way to bring the star child to the battlefield and have sanguinius back. Basically you get a character that is basically what the shaman theory of the emperor is but this time it’s the emperors humanity and sanguinius. This allows the blood angels to sort of get their primarch while not diminishing his death. The story could then be about this new being learning how the world works and tempering his love for humanity with duty where the sanguinius side of the soul would act as the adult teaching the star child how one can be human but also true to their duty. It also fits a bit thematically since star child can mean the best child. The most appropriate description of sanguinius is the best child and now that child must teach the human aspect of his father that humanity is not something that must be separated from duty. This allows for Long long term (20+) years the plot to be about getting the rest of sanguinius’ soul together so that he can have the star child reunite with the emperor after it has learned how it can be an important part of his decision making and how important long for humanity is to leadership. Then you can even have it be that this thing that should be the end and should save the imperium actually causes problems as the emperor is filled with all the guilt and sadness and self loathing that would naturally happen when he sees what his plans have done and is forced to deal with that as the human aspect of himself reasserts its influence. TLDR: sanguinius can come back as part of the star child which is good for elongating the plot and allows GW to sell 2 models as opposed to 1
@phuntymes7 ай бұрын
Cypher recieves the Emporer's cloak. And reveals himself to be Omegon the last living Primarch of the Alpha legion. With the death of his traitorus brother Alpharius. Omegon would carry out the empoeror's wrath from the shadows. The redemption of the Alpha Legion.
@zenora847 ай бұрын
One thing I can see happening (I haven't wathced 100% yet, only 19 mins in atm) is the ol' rowboat passing the sword on to Jaghatai once the Kahn comes back with something else that is more fitting for Guilliman, perhaps one of the two spears? I think it's more then obvious who the claw would fit with the best, but I can see Rogal coming back with a new hand. A claw if you will. One of the spears would probably go to Vulcan, and Corvus could have the cloak, maybe it works like Meta Knight's where it can be wings or a cape? All in all, the Lion/Shield, Guilliman/Gauntlets, Jaghatai/Sword, Leman/Spear #1, Rogal/Claw, Vulcan/Spear #2, Corvus/Cloak. That's my prediction. Ferrus would get the armour minus the gauntlets tho. I mean, there's not much he can use, and he is the primarch of the *Iron Hands*, so those are covered too. Literally and figuratively.
@raitodemon4117 ай бұрын
Like for warpieces from Roboute and the Lion, I think it will be to compensate the lacks of each Primark. So yes, Corvus won't have a cloak bc he is stealth incarnated, he should have a tool to destroy chaos power/barrier. To make him the unstoppable hunter.
@Mr_Quimper7 ай бұрын
Lukas the Trickster played Magnus quite amusingly.
@dontgetmarried7 ай бұрын
I second the Halo-Frisbee for Sanguineous
@ChristianR-fx8uy6 ай бұрын
Lion El'Johnson: Emperor's Shield Jaghatai: Emperor's Assault Bike Leman Russ: Emperor's War Axe Rogal Dorn: Emperor's Power Claw Sanguinius: Emperor's Spear Ferrus Manus: Emperor's Iron Halo Roboute Guilliman: Emperor's Sword Vulkan: Emperor's Shoulderpads Corvus Corax: Emperor's Cloak
@simpeldisaster45333 ай бұрын
Omegon gets the cloak and is actually been running around the imperium for 10,000 years occasionally taking existing characters identities (cypher).
@LordGadwin7 ай бұрын
I think the Emperor was the demon the lion had to do battle with. His father was testing him and for his victory he was rewarded the shield.
@TheLiberChaotica7 ай бұрын
I'm imagining Sanguinius would get either the bulk of the remaining armour - gold goes so nicely with his hair 😁 - or maybe just the Emperor's golden laurels. Maybe increasing his foresight or other psychic powers. Dorn is another potential for the remains of Emperor's golden armour, both for the aesthetic but also to reinforce the idea of indomitable defence, but i agree the claw seems more likely.
@McChickenJOI7 ай бұрын
yeah dont think sangy is coming back man
@TheLiberChaotica7 ай бұрын
@McChickenJOI Not any time soon perhaps, there are the still living primarchs to bring back. But I think the primarchs are such a cash cow for GW that bringing back Sanguinius and even Ferrus will be on the cards. They've left enough wriggle room in the various stories for this very purpose, I think.
@McChickenJOI7 ай бұрын
@@TheLiberChaotica i think sanguinious is the primarch that feels the most dead of them all, bar probably konrad. But honestly i hate that what you're saying sounds really plausible hahhah, imagine 2032 konny comes back with the emperor's mood stabilizers
@TheLiberChaotica7 ай бұрын
@@McChickenJOI I definitely agree. The primarchs' sacrifices should mean something, but, well... PRIMARCHS. They're a "print money" hack for GW 🙂
@McChickenJOI7 ай бұрын
@@TheLiberChaotica yeahhh...
@Lordradost6 ай бұрын
The Emperor had the ability to be utterly hidden to superhuman occupants (like Malcador) in the same room, dressed in normal garb. A talent Corvis inherited. I don't see the cloak having to be stealth related as we might as well argue flight or healing. Corvis already has Raven powers _and_ stealth. In Mortarion's short story, just after being recruited from Barbarus, where he receives the Lantern, *we get the impression the Emperor has a collection of armament far more expansive than just his armor and personal weapons.* Also, Ferus and Vulkan are capable of having created things we've never heard of, much like the Dark Angel vaults.
@DominusNox1067 ай бұрын
Imagine the Primarchs going through Daddy's wardrobe calling dibs at each new toy displayed.
@adio.51897 ай бұрын
Worth mentioning that Vulkan already has "Urdrakule" his most powerful thunder hammer. Of which he made along with the talisman of 7 hammers while being psychically possessed by the Emperor.
@DarkApostleNoek7 ай бұрын
Guilliman & The Emperor's Sword on when he got it & its Daemon killing is a bit unclear since he stabs Magnus I believe with it on Luna so either it is something like a Psychic power vs Psychic power thing or that wasn't his sword. I am still a fan of him getting it from the Emperor after visiting him. I am guessing it is a tiny bit of the armour is put into the Crux, and the additions are what will be given. Khan with the Bolter, because him on a Bike using the Bolter would be really cool, as well I believe the last place it was scene or at least mentioned was the novel " The Master of Mankind" where the Emperor fought in the Webway so it could be just established the Bolter was left there and the Khan who is in the Webway finds it. Dorn getting the Claw, ya missing hand to be replaced, but as well the Claw is probably the 2nd most recognized thing the Emperor used under his Sword so the Imperial Fists Primarch getting it feels right while the Ultramarines's Primarch getting the Sword. Russ and the Spear, ya just we all know the things for it mentioned, most likely while he was gone he understood his Primarch gifts more so the Spear feels more natural to him. Corvus having the Cape & Pauldrons, really just bits to help him keep his Warp form to be able to stay in real space he will use his new powers for his weapons and abilities. Vulkan finally with the Halo, where it will play a role in keeping his sanity. I believe there will be 1 more Primarch to come back before any reunion, if you look through the Horus Heresy most significant Loyalist Primarch groupings were in groups of 3, I believe that will play a role in it, and the planet they will meet on is Armageddon (Ullanor).
@cassiusaureliusanima5 ай бұрын
I think that they gave the sword to Guilliman because he would know when to face an enemy, opposed to the Lion which could get heated by the fight, enraged and overextend and because nowadays he is having internal doubts, reconnecting with his role in the Imperium. The shield for the Lion makes sense because it is also a way of telling him that he is the righ man to defend the Imperium leading the armies, shoulder to shoulder, encouraging humanity, showing them that there is a knight there. The best fighter will also protect them and lead them to victory.
@peterga36587 ай бұрын
another video amazing.. love your vidoes man i cant stop watching them , cant wait for more streams and colabs i love the way GW retcon stuff in 40k without actually deleting anything.. if the story needs to change then they will say the info they had the story they use to know was wrong and this is the correct thing or whatever u get what im saying ?
@souldier28757 ай бұрын
They should embed sagunius's soul into the insane angle which could bring one back and make the other sane.
@LT_Dante6 ай бұрын
Hey, first thing first, huge fan of your work, thanks for all your wonderful content! Second, as a huge W40K Lore Fan, I need to throw in my two cents on the topic: 1 - We have a clear 7 VS 7 situation: Guilliman (alive, back with a model), El'Jonson (alive, back with a model), Corax (alive, no model), Vulkan (presumed alive), Khan (presumed alive), Dorn (presumed alive) & Russ (presumed alive) VERSUS Magnus (alive, back with a model), Mortarion (alive, back with a model), Angron (alive, back with a model), Fulgrim (alive, model existing in 30K, 40K could use the same), Lorgar (alive, no model), Perturabo (alive, no model) and Alpharius/Omegon (one at least is presumed alive, no model). EACH of the 14 will return with a model, 5 already done so 9 to go. Too much money-making potential for GW. I feel like the order of comebacks is Vulkan-Dorn-Corax-Russ-Khan for the Loyalists, Fulgrim-Perturabo-Lorgar-Alpharius/Omegon for the Traitors. 2 - Confirmed dead are Sanguinius, Horus, Kurze & Ferrus. Horus is gone-gone and won't come back on the tabletops (maybe some mentions/flashbacks in the story). The Blood Angels will get a "Sanguinius-power-infused" Sanguinor (the Golden Warrior from Dante's vision?) but Sanguinius won't come back to the tabletops. Ferrus will come back under a spectral form leading an upcoming Legion of the Damned new line of models, "manifesting the Emperor's wrath". Kurze will come back under a warp-infused/daemonic avatar of "mad/crazy justice" for the Daemons of Chaos line. 3 - Not all the Loyalists will return in "human form with armor", like Guilliman & El'Jonson. Russ will come back in some Wulfen form (something in the style of Ushoran). Corax will come back with a model but in the form of a misty/energy-cloudy/raven-daemonic form. 4 - There is gonna be either a switch or a secession: either one Loyalist will become a Traitor (Corax fully succumbing to Chaos in the hope of gaining enough power to hunt down the Traitors from the Dropsite Massacre, but ending up Chaos-controled?), and one Traitor will redeem himself & become a Loyalist (Perturabo realizing his mistakes?), OR one on each side will decide that they have enough and go their own way (Khan & Alpharius/Omegon deciding that Imperium/Chaos are BS and setting up their own thing to defend Mankind/defeat Chaos?). In case of a secession, I feel like they could team up with Valdor/King in Yellow and lead their own faction, mirroring Imperium Secundus (Imperium Tertius?). 5 - The Emperor equipment going to surviving Primarchs: sword & shield done. In my mind, items remaining to be distributed are his bolter (from "Master of Mankind), claw & halo (from the Heresy Artwork) and the Dionysian Spear. I see the claw going to Dorn (to replace his hand), the halo going to Vulkan (I feel like Vulkan was his favourite son so he'll make sure Vulkan has optimal protection). I'm not sure if "Wolf Russ" will be able to hold something in his hands, if he can he'll have the spear, otherwise it'll go to Khan. If Khan doesn't get the spear, he'll get the bolter. Valdor will come back in the story (no model), and get the Apollonian Spear back. The rest of the Emperor's armor has been melted and is used in the Crux Terminatus. I feel we're gonna get an updated visual of the Emperor on the Golden Throne with his "physical form" wrapped in his cloak at some point. Just personal views, happy to see where GW/BL decides to go!
@jameskoskidescamps24975 ай бұрын
I really like in emperor's text to speach where Dorn has spent 10k years in centurian armor standing penance at the throne.
@ajaxo856 ай бұрын
Given that Big E was a renowned scientist and tinkerer who invented plenty of tech himself, it seems easy to retcon in a very powerful, psychically imbued blacksmithing hammer that he personally used whilst creating his thunder warriors or custodes etc. And we all know a big huggy boi who would be perfectly suited for such a gift. Even if its not technically a weapon in itself, its power could be used to forge very powerful weapons by Vulcans hand.
@ausar31057 ай бұрын
What if Vulkan is the one who left the shield for the Lion, like Vulkan is the one working with the emperor in a way by creating these weapons/gifts from the Emperors armor for the Primarchs?