The Emperor's New Groove (2000) - Movies with Mikey

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@Seanwhatsleft
@Seanwhatsleft 7 жыл бұрын
SCREW YOU MIKEY That David Spade pun was awesome. Don't you dare apologize for perfection. We should all strive for that kind of comedic mastery
@Dorweaver
@Dorweaver 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the Spades pun was perfectly placed. I give it a good 8.5/10.
@StrangelyandFriends
@StrangelyandFriends 7 жыл бұрын
Wow that comment changed direction quickly, you win all my internets today!
@russellfronk361
@russellfronk361 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, no one here is going to give you shade for your Spade.
@themolf2899
@themolf2899 7 жыл бұрын
What's up with Disney and all that subliminal dick? 7:25 Apologize for that!
@julesroy3469
@julesroy3469 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Dupree seriously
@ineffablemars
@ineffablemars 7 жыл бұрын
I really miss 2D animation. I love it.
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's still there in abundance. But perhaps you actually meant to say that you miss *_DISNEY'S_* 2D animated features...in which case, yeah...me too, champ. 🥺😭😢🥺
@ApostateltsopA
@ApostateltsopA 4 жыл бұрын
Avatar, the last Airbender, just as one.
@PendelSteven
@PendelSteven 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you've seen Mary Poppins Returns. It gives us hope.
@jpickens189
@jpickens189 7 жыл бұрын
I think it supports your argument that the last two times I cared about large scale destruction were in "The Iron Giant" and "Princess Mononoke."
@PsychoDiesel48
@PsychoDiesel48 4 жыл бұрын
Looove the Iron Giant
@naptimegaming1347
@naptimegaming1347 6 жыл бұрын
"Yay! I'm a lamma again!" Is definitely the only thing I can say when anything that was wrong gets fixed. It doesnt always work, but that isnt the point.
@wjhull
@wjhull 7 жыл бұрын
Y'know what? I'm feeling like watching something light this morning to start my day. Let's throw on Mikey's Emperor's New Groove--that's a fun, silly, light-hearted Disney movie, and it's totally not going to end with some devastating existential idea like "If you love something, someday it will be gone"...
@alfie4340
@alfie4340 6 жыл бұрын
"Be knowledgeable in the fact that no matter how much you love something, someday it will be gone" This is why mikey's video essays are the best, he presents them in such a relatable and comprehensive way all while promoting his opinions and morals and trying to make his viewers better people. This is by far my favourite work of yours, and that is saying something. Keep it up mikey
@mattjazzfan2288
@mattjazzfan2288 5 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious how this guy speaks in run-on sentences
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
NO U!
@nitchmat
@nitchmat 4 жыл бұрын
Its also hilarious how this guy does not get A) how this video format works, and B) how these videos specifically function
@samuelgault7118
@samuelgault7118 6 жыл бұрын
God I love your music selection for these videos!!! Always just 10/10, especially because you probably get demonetised, or copyright struck for implementing them, but they just add so so SOOO much!!! Instead of just like, low-fi, jazzy hip-hop music in the background like in so many other video essayists' channels
@StephenGillie
@StephenGillie 6 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I couldn't tell Kronk and John Goodman's character apart, and was always confused about why "the big guy" changed sides.
@evangelynbeltran202
@evangelynbeltran202 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah
@paulc6060
@paulc6060 7 жыл бұрын
"For what has now been 8 years." You're forgetting about Winnie the Pooh (2011).
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 7 жыл бұрын
Winnie the Pooh's theatrical movies have never been particularly ingrained in the mainstream consciousness. They're the kind of movie that you totally forget about until someone brings it up again, which is honestly kind of a shame because the movies are surprisingly good.
@chuckbatman5
@chuckbatman5 6 жыл бұрын
Was that made by the main 2D Disney animation team
@brionosullivan1992
@brionosullivan1992 7 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about "Song of the sea". It's a modern (2014) 2D animated film based around Irish mythology. I think you'd love it and have loads to talk about it.
@starsparksinfinity
@starsparksinfinity 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to leave a nice comment here - I've been a fan of your videos since I caught the one you did for Princess Mononoke. It got my attention because it's the first Miyazaki film I ever watched. Since then I've gone back through pretty much all MwM and I enjoy them all so much. I shared the John Wick episode with my best friend, who had shown me that movie in the first place, and as much as we both love that movie, there were still new details and connections we learned about it through your video on it. So I just wanted to say thank you for that, and thank you for talking about this movie too. There are jokes from Groove that I still quote to this day. Great episode, and I cast my vote for Guardians of the Galaxy for the next.
@onidan7
@onidan7 7 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, traditonal animation is mostly dead in the US but it's still going strong in Europe and Asia. It may rise in Latin America (fingers crossed) but that's still to be seen, so it's not a dying art form, also the fat that it's been less than 20 years since 3D animation has become the predominant form in the US so we still have some time to see if it doesn't die down a bit and we see a healthy balance of 2D and 3D from the US. Also, I vote for Guardians of the Galaxy.
@FlutterMouse
@FlutterMouse 5 жыл бұрын
Belgium has some phenomenal works
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
It's dead when it comes to major US studios for the most part, literally just because 3D/CGI is more cost-effective (what a surprising turn of events in Capitalistan). However on the independent level, there is still plenty of wonderful animation being pumped out of the USA and its little brother Canada. Although (and I don't know if this is a sad thing or not) American 2D animation seems to be much more prevalent in the realm of television shows (both on actual television stations and on the various streaming services like Netflix & Amazon Prime etc) than feature films. But even so, there is A LOT of beautiful and highly artistic innovations coming out of the USA/Canada in the medium of 3D/CGI animation as well as stop-motion (including a wonderful blend of the two). Matter of fact, _Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse_ is hands down not only one of the greatest animated films ever made, but one of the most beautiful & artistic & visually STUNNING animated films EVER made, even though it's a 3D/CGI animated film (or at least predominantly so, I have a weird inkling that they made at least partial use of traditional 2D animation in some of the effects and extra stuff but can't remember for absolute certain). The way they mess with the framerate so that it almost looks like stop-motion, all the extra stuff they do to give it that classic comic book A E S T H E T I C, seriously holy SHITFITS, BITCH-TITS! Go watch this guy's video about that movie and you'll see what I mean. And while you watch it, bear in mind that, somehow, that movie was created by the same exact animation studio who made THE FUCKING *EMOJI MOVIE* JUST *ONE AND A HALF YEARS EARLIER* FOR *_FUCK'S_* SAKE!
@henrikmunkmadsen3190
@henrikmunkmadsen3190 7 жыл бұрын
You really knocked this one out of the park. Style-wise at least, I don't know that much about movies, but this video was a beautiful piece of work (not sure if you can say that, English isn't my first language, point being: It was great, ty).
@Pegbarians
@Pegbarians 7 жыл бұрын
Guardians of the galaxy! And awesome review as always mikey, keep. it. up!
@MelissaAtwell
@MelissaAtwell 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Your videos are some of my all-time favs on KZbin.
@mrwilliamjoel
@mrwilliamjoel 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta vote for Guardians of the Galaxy here. Thanks for the awesome work Mikey! Keep it up!
@Darkswarm228
@Darkswarm228 7 жыл бұрын
This video in particular is the reason I started supporting your Patreon. I love your essays! Keep up the great work!
@gracielaguardado9426
@gracielaguardado9426 7 жыл бұрын
Been dealing a lot with the topic of impermanence. So this video definitely got me teary eyed at the end. Everything ends. Lean into that for a moment. Powerful stuff....I vote for Creed because I didn't see it and your reviews always get me to watch movies I missed.
@TheMrCesarcardoso
@TheMrCesarcardoso 6 жыл бұрын
"Everything that has a beginning, has an END..."
@irosencrantz882
@irosencrantz882 6 жыл бұрын
Graciela Guardado, I hope you have seen Creed by now, if only for Michael B. Jordan's excellent performance... and his delicious swolledness! (which, yes, I realize is not even a word, but that is just how deliciously swolled he is in that movie. He slaps the orthography and male heterosexuality out your mouth!)
@irosencrantz882
@irosencrantz882 6 жыл бұрын
... which I realize half of that is no issue to you, as you are not male.
@SimplyDudeFace
@SimplyDudeFace 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are nailing this. I have never laughed out loud at a youtube channel the way I do one. Thoughtful and hysterical. Thanks. and Keep it coming.
@TirOrah
@TirOrah 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I wish you'd taken a bit more time talking about the actual movie instead of the other stuff, or the pretty long rants at the beginning and the end. This is my favorite Disney movie and I didn't feel like you left yourself enough time to talk about it as much as a 17-minute video would warrant. Still entertaining though, no worries there. I too find myself looking for more character and emotional impact rather than a constant stream of explosions or fancy special effects. This movie's got heart all right. And R.I.P. Eartha Kitt. T_T
@AcolytesOfHorror
@AcolytesOfHorror 6 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Bub1029
@Bub1029 6 жыл бұрын
I think maybe you should check out Cinemawins for that kinda stuff. They look at all the great moments in the movie and focus on it specifically. Movies with Mikey is more about analyzing the artistic and social relevancy of films that Mikey loves.
@moohawkofdrknss
@moohawkofdrknss 7 жыл бұрын
Lovely episode as always. As for my vote, I'm going with Creed because I love when Mikey gives me an excuse to either a) watch a movie I haven't yet had a chance to watch or b) watch a movie that I haven't watched in a long time. Thanks for continuing to do this dude, definitely one of my top you tube series by far.
@mateolitc8898
@mateolitc8898 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Kronk is the hero. Yzma put him in charge of poisoning the drink, but he took the llama one by accident.
@PeteTrempe
@PeteTrempe 7 жыл бұрын
You sound goddamn great Mikey!!! So excited you're back in action, and really glad to see this movie get some attention!! Keep it all up, we love you and your beautiful brain!!
@kawmedia
@kawmedia 7 жыл бұрын
I vote Guardians of the Frick'n Galaxy... Only I didn't say Frick'n.
@Bluemilk92
@Bluemilk92 6 жыл бұрын
Something about your opening and ending bits is really nostalgic for me. Reminds me of highschool, which was (don't feel like doing the math) 2008ish? I think Stranger Things proved that nostalgia doesn't make sense, and certainly doesn't have to come from your past.
@Therberus
@Therberus 7 жыл бұрын
Man you gotta do Guardians of the Galaxy !
@RiverdudeCovers
@RiverdudeCovers 6 жыл бұрын
Do you ever pause? This is like one huge run on sentence
@Thiefree
@Thiefree 7 жыл бұрын
So for a very long time now, I've been trying to work out what "catawampus" means from context alone. It's not going great for me, if you're curious.
@TheLastHylianTitan
@TheLastHylianTitan 6 жыл бұрын
Thiefree catawampus is a term that means “askew or awry” and the way Mikey uses it means that the conversation is currently going off the rails.
@goncalohomem
@goncalohomem 7 жыл бұрын
dear Chainsawsuit Original , you're one of the funniest video essayists all around KZbin while getting into some really relevant issues. I've seen 3 videos of yours (by the way, your trademark intro got me stunned) and I must say thank you and keep up the amazing work.
@Agoonga
@Agoonga 7 жыл бұрын
such a funny insightful video then at the end you kicked my heart in the nuts
@filmjoy
@filmjoy 7 жыл бұрын
+Agoonga [m] I do that 😎
@waldronhohman5127
@waldronhohman5127 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your voice and speech are recovering! Hope you are doing ok. Love your videos man.
@danieljennagrouse
@danieljennagrouse 7 жыл бұрын
I'm voting for Guardians
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 7 жыл бұрын
Great KaptainKristian shoutout, dude's an artist. Hope you talk about Rescuers Down Under someday, that film was frickin' breathtaking.
@PlatoPlays
@PlatoPlays 7 жыл бұрын
Emperor's New Groove has been my favorite Disney movie for... geeze, almost 17 years now. Super under-appreciated. With that, I vote for Guardians!
@PimpDragon108
@PimpDragon108 7 жыл бұрын
The Emperor's New Groove remains my fave Disney film! I love that it threw out the traditional Disney playbook for pages from the Looney Tunes and Simpsons playbooks! As funny as it is (and it's damn funny), the film has so much heart and I have no problem revisiting it any time! Nice review as always, Mikey!
@nessesaryschoolthing
@nessesaryschoolthing 7 жыл бұрын
"Disney produced Princess and the frog before closing down forever" Hmm... I could probably make a funny comment about that. I just better go verify that on the wikipedia, just to be sure, and... what the... Winnie the Pooh (2011)? Oh wow, it seems that Mikey, me, and everyone forgot that happened.
@nervousgiraffe9876
@nervousgiraffe9876 6 жыл бұрын
An emperors new groove thesis with a Buffalo Springfield track and a bittersweet ending reflecting on the transient state of cinema and life as a whole. *creams violently*
@josephmullen4553
@josephmullen4553 7 жыл бұрын
hey mikey why 3 am, huh? why now? I'm a little worried
@MrBaseballlover6
@MrBaseballlover6 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I know I’m super late to the party but I really appreciate all the music choices he makes in the background.
@This_Is_TinN
@This_Is_TinN 7 жыл бұрын
WHOOOO BEST DISNEY MOVIE
@TheSamuraiXX011
@TheSamuraiXX011 7 жыл бұрын
Rain check on that. But still a good movie XD
@Uberzombiemojo
@Uberzombiemojo 7 жыл бұрын
Best Disney non-Starwars movie
@Cronophobic
@Cronophobic 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work! I let this film pass me by and now I need to pull it off my friends kids shelf (its a VHS). Jarhead!
@chloerozo3884
@chloerozo3884 7 жыл бұрын
JARHEAD. I VOTE JARHEAD. PLEASE DO JARHEAD. Great as always!!! EDIT: And yeah, look, it really is not contestable that the culture of this movie was appropriated. Unsurprised at the arguing, but voices like yours need to acknowledge things like this as real, and you did it very well. Thank you for doing it.
@ash6009
@ash6009 7 жыл бұрын
Jarhead! Another great episode Mikey, good to hear you sounding better too
@TOCTM
@TOCTM 7 жыл бұрын
Guardians this time its been put off for too long now :D
@donutwashington4783
@donutwashington4783 7 жыл бұрын
Gonna be real -- did NOT expect to be in tears at the end of this Emperor's new groove youtube video but
@atimholt
@atimholt 6 жыл бұрын
Here’s where I want to see bringing 2D animation back: a redo of the Harry Potter movies in, say, 10 years.
@jedkeenan00
@jedkeenan00 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, this one's the best so far of Mikey's Movies with Mikey.
@JKPancake
@JKPancake 5 жыл бұрын
I will say this is the first time one of your videos had something that bugged me, saying 2D animation is gone. It's gone, from disney but it is still very much alive specifically with foreign animation the obvious answer being anime but also in american cartoons not film but on tv with stuff like Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, etc. Even in the world of video games it is still alive with games like Gris and Rayman Legends. The medium isn't dead it is still alive. And I know some will say it is on a computer now or it is mixed with CG at times and that really shouldn't be seen as a problem. It's a visual medium you can use whatever tools you desire and it is important to mix and match so you can work with the stregths and weaknesses of those tools
@TheTahoeGinger
@TheTahoeGinger 7 жыл бұрын
Guardians, and also, you sound great man, it really seems like you're doing better.
@valleyviking011
@valleyviking011 7 жыл бұрын
Creed aka the best Rocky movie since Rocky 2
@PJWats42
@PJWats42 7 жыл бұрын
Your last line before the end credits hit me kinda hard. Thanks for soing good works.
@DaftVictim
@DaftVictim 7 жыл бұрын
I was really excited when I saw the thumbnail of what you were going to review here, but was pretty disappointed with the review on a whole - there was more talk of other movies people or things than the actual movie. sure it was interesting to know about the time it was made and why it had a hard time being received in the changing movie era but what about the the actual movie? you talked about 3 characters 4 if you include Tom Jones and not one of them is everyone's favorite character - KRONK.
@alfie4340
@alfie4340 5 жыл бұрын
I feel you dont really understand the point of this show, it is Mikey's perceptions of what he believes the meaning behind the film is, is far from just a review.
@mBUSHattack
@mBUSHattack 6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this movie had such a troubled creation. I really want to watch that sweatbox documentary.
@KastleMeyer
@KastleMeyer 7 жыл бұрын
Love you Mikey. You are a ridiculously powerful creature.
@scottrogers2633
@scottrogers2633 7 жыл бұрын
I swear to God every video you make leaves me with goosebumps
@Manga_Lloyd
@Manga_Lloyd 7 жыл бұрын
Down for Guardians OR Creed! Anything but Jarhead, really. I thought that film was abysmal. Although knowing Mikey's method(s), he'd probably make me like it.
@good_mourning
@good_mourning 5 жыл бұрын
What??? You didn't like jar heads??? I'm not saying it's a masterpiece by any stretch, but I do think it's a good movie, I mean the main character was devastated when he was told to stand down from taking his sniper shot and he lost his shit over that, to me that speaks ok what an individual goes through when traffic to be a marine, how they are made to feel everything that makes them up, leads them to seeking out the enemy and eliminating the enemy, especially after you have had specialized training, such as snipers. He had the perfect shot and his superior told him not to take the shot in favor of an air strike. All of that stemmed from the Marines we follow, having been broken down and rebuilt into Marines, losing their individual identities and gaining the desire for combat and killing, where combat and killing become their new collective identity and throughout the film they are denied combat and killing despite being dropped into the warzone, and at the end, the highly trained and specialized Marine sniper finally, for the first time, has his first potential kill in his cross hairs, everything he had been trained for, and has endured, has lead him to that very moment, and he is told not to fulfill, in his mind, his destiny that he was trained, broken down and rebuilt for, what he sacrificed so much for, and him watching the air strike take his kill, liked him mentally and emotionally.
@HulloItsIcy
@HulloItsIcy 7 жыл бұрын
Sounding good Mikey! ^_^ And you didn't make me cry this time. Thank you!
@pettaspro
@pettaspro 7 жыл бұрын
JARHEAD!! Love me some Sam Mendez.
@kaowas
@kaowas 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see your take on Jarhead. It's rare to see anybody talk about it.
@MikeRugnetta
@MikeRugnetta 7 жыл бұрын
If your voice is weird, I don't wanna be a normie.
@filmjoy
@filmjoy 7 жыл бұрын
[m] My voice is weird /now/, if that makes sense. Like, it's different than it /was/ so it's weird /from/ me? Also, I'm 9,000% self-conscious about it which everyone managed to peg from space.
@maxtrollbot5805
@maxtrollbot5805 7 жыл бұрын
Don't let the amateur trolls get you down. We love you man.
@s.grey.k
@s.grey.k 6 жыл бұрын
"And it works for absolutely no reason." There you go. You just summed it up perfectly
@autumn_vasch
@autumn_vasch 7 жыл бұрын
JARHEAD i THINK I HAVE VOTED FOR JARHEAD EVERY TIME YOU PUT IT UP AND I'M STILL WAITING also I appreciate you pointing out the incredibly obvious cultural appropriation and honestly you were pretty gentle about it? Still unsurprised that people are jumping to argue about it. But since I assume you get a lot of that I wanted to tell you straight up it means a lot to me that you thought about that and acknowledged it and consider it a point to improve on.
@filmjoy
@filmjoy 7 жыл бұрын
+Aviy Drake [m] Thanks. I was incredibly careful to be gentle about it but ... some subjects just get a rise out of people.
@emimonsterlicious
@emimonsterlicious 7 жыл бұрын
I was on-board until it meant he showed that abomination of a generic "oriental" Halloween costume. That will haunt my nightmares.
@TreyWarren
@TreyWarren 7 жыл бұрын
You killed another one that I wasn't expecting, lets see you do it with Guardians next!
@ruolbu
@ruolbu 7 жыл бұрын
Man, don't end the talk with that line and then start your tune. That's called foreshadowing or something, heard that on a youtube channel once. I don't want your channel to be gone, no, never :/ Also: Creed
@getoffamylan6844
@getoffamylan6844 5 жыл бұрын
Traditional animation continued on in Secret Of Kells and Song of the Sea and it is glorious!
@TheDRAG54
@TheDRAG54 7 жыл бұрын
I fail to see how culture appropriation is either bad or good. Like isn't the idea to understand others is to experience there culture or only people of that culture can experience it unless were told so. If a writer wants to use foreign ideas to make a movie, why is that a bad things, should I start to hate Star Wars because of this, Is the now icon design of alien's space suit? You do understand other countries use american ideals in there culture too, right? Im just so confused why people feel the need to separate each other because someone decided to focus on one aspect of a culture for style, theme or ect. without being a part of it should be shamed and unhallowed. Its almost like the idea of doing something that can bring people aware of something they would of never know is now being shamed upon because its doesent belong to them, when in reality culture belongs to no one and should be experienced by everyone, but whatever. thats just my 2 cents. Im sure people will view this comment as insensitive.
@meangirlovania
@meangirlovania 7 жыл бұрын
Exposure to other cultures is great Exposure to a shitty caricature of other cultures is damaging and encourages you to think of those cultures as less than people
@qpopuiuzmnmb
@qpopuiuzmnmb 6 жыл бұрын
If all you do is cast a short, thin, Asian guy who wears glasses and is nerdy and have him to be the butt of jokes for every film you make, then I will start to question whether or not your intents with the characterisation is just 'all in good fun'.
@KingdomOfDimensions
@KingdomOfDimensions 6 жыл бұрын
Bad (or incorrect) interpretation =/= dehumanization. That's a non-sequitur. An interpretation of a culture that dehumanizes them could also be considered incorrect, but claiming that the reverse is necessarily true is ridiculous.
@pliniomelo6295
@pliniomelo6295 6 жыл бұрын
Toxic Potato were are you from? You have to understand that cultures change organically , they do not exist in a vaccuum do if , say , puerto ricans decide to incorporate more american habits , that was their choice , or are you telling me thta the U.S is forcing their culture onto others? Because that is just plain wrong (ps of you come again with the whole ,"you dont understand because your not opressed" schtick again im from Brazil , not exactly what you call a first world country mate)
@Psyxe1
@Psyxe1 6 жыл бұрын
This is far too late, so im sorry if it's a bother, but to anyone that reading through the comments over a year later... the type qpopuiuzmnmb describes is what we call the "token" character. when a cast has minorities of any kind added in just to appease the masses. typically, they try as little as possible with these characters, because they were forced to put them in at threat of violence/death/annoyance. this isnt "racist bastards just wanna put the poor minorities down" this is an artist tacking on a character that was most likely forced on them by the studio, who was forced by people that think diversity is the most important thing, before plot, good character design, or reality. america has more white people then anyone else. deal with it. if you want that to change, change it. get into acting. BECOME the change you want to see. dont whine and bitch for people to do it for you, or you get the unwanted, pandering, insulting token character. and nobody wants a token.
@zachmutchler6914
@zachmutchler6914 6 жыл бұрын
making your city a character before you destroy it. Dude... that's genius
@JazzyWaffles
@JazzyWaffles 7 жыл бұрын
You complain that Emperor's New Groove is cultural appropriation yet you call Moana Hawaiian... get your shit together Mikey.
@TheWarriorpony
@TheWarriorpony 7 жыл бұрын
Jazzy Waffles Except that for Moana they got actual polenesian people involved in both the production and for inspiration, they did extensive research right on the islands and the two main characters are voiced by polenesian people. It might have been adapted slightly (The myth of maui was changed a bit), but it sure as hell was more Polenesian than ENG was Imkan
@Renne308
@Renne308 6 жыл бұрын
And Cultural Appropriation is, as Lindsay Ellis points out, a neutral term, with individual instances being good or bad depending on context.
@markrounseville6998
@markrounseville6998 6 жыл бұрын
Cultural appropriation doesn't exist
@markrounseville6998
@markrounseville6998 6 жыл бұрын
It's basically white guilt
@rwbywakefield6219
@rwbywakefield6219 6 жыл бұрын
Renne Where is the line drawn between cultural appropriation and cultural exchange
@MrUqppum
@MrUqppum 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video! Please do Guardians next!
@TheLadyVictory
@TheLadyVictory 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry people can be jerks in the comments, Mikey. My husband and I love your show and it's a legit evening event to watch your new stuff. We ate cake and watched this video last night. :) And regardless of the occasional dumb/rude comments, you obviously inspire some critical thinking and discussion, and that's pretty cool. Keep it up.
@Seawulf22
@Seawulf22 7 жыл бұрын
You're amazing man, I find your analysis and point of view really interesting Love from Argentina
@JonRisinger
@JonRisinger 7 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Ewan McGregor in the third act of Moulin Rouge after he screams "Satine" for 10 minutes, gets beat up by some thugs and then goes home to mope while John Leguizamo tries to cheer him up by talking about pimps and whores.
@rtkrebs277
@rtkrebs277 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Risinger That's pretty fucked up, if you took a second out of your time to check another video posted in regards to the reason why he's talking like that instead of just being an uncaring ass.
@thatryanguy
@thatryanguy 7 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone automatically assume that such a video even exists?
@filmjoy
@filmjoy 7 жыл бұрын
+richard krebs Jon's my friend. He's good.
@Ha19000
@Ha19000 7 жыл бұрын
Jon, you need a blue tick!
@Nate-nj4uw
@Nate-nj4uw 7 жыл бұрын
So happy to see appreciation for this overlooked film!
@ishaanthewonderboy
@ishaanthewonderboy 7 жыл бұрын
Look man, I come from a country with a rich history of "tradition and culture" and Americans do eat our food, comment on the traditional garbs, religion, etc and incorporate it every now and then. And you know what we do? We do the same thing incorporating shit from other countries. Cultural appropriation legit makes no sense other than white guilt. And the answer is Creed, don't care for GoTG and I haven't seen the other one.
@meangirlovania
@meangirlovania 7 жыл бұрын
That's super reductive and not what it means at all As a writer, i can tell you it's not hard to figure the difference between 'creative liberties' and doing a blind take on a culture you find exotic without considering that you are probably grossly misrepresenting real people and places and ideas If getting people right is secondary to the artist's vision then the artist's vision is flawed and worthy of criticism, and there's nothing narcissistic about having a problem with it
@FourthDerivative
@FourthDerivative 7 жыл бұрын
As a white American, in these situations I always try to imagine how I would feel if some foreign country made this sort of movie about my culture and its history. And the answer is invariably: I wouldn't give a shit and would probably find it pretty damn funny. Everyone complaining about "cultural appropriation", I humbly suggest you get a life and stop acting offended on behalf of people you haven't even met.
@ishaanthewonderboy
@ishaanthewonderboy 7 жыл бұрын
FourthDerivative Yeah it's mostly acting offended on other people's behalf I can't remember who but some celebrity had to apologise for wearing Native American clothing, which made no fucking sense to me. Saris are traditional Indian clothing, kimonos for the Japanese, kilts for the Scots. There are traditional clothing or headgear for a lot of cultures how is wearing them making fun of them in any way.
@meikoblock
@meikoblock 7 жыл бұрын
Johnny Doe *clears throat* so you don't understand cultural appropriation? That's ok 👌there is always room for learning. I agree that culture is something that should be shared and exchanged with one another. However, it is incredibly frustrating when a person that is not apart of that culture takes it and gets praised for it while people that are of that culture get criticized for it. For example Gigi Hadid wore a hijab in some magazine and received praise from the mass media however women wore are actually Muslim get called terrorist and threatened. Gigi gets to wear the hijab as if it were an accessory however to Muslims it's a religious symbol. I understand it's difficult for white Americans to understand this concept because many white Americans do not have any ties to their own heritage and culture, so it makes it easy to see a distinct culture and try to mimic it. Anyways Chao 😌
@ishaanthewonderboy
@ishaanthewonderboy 7 жыл бұрын
meikoblock and Rtkts, I sort of agree with both of you. There are many negative connotations attached with hijaabs since most women are forced to wear it and don't have a choice and islam as a whole is a really tricky subject and kind of an outlier. I know very little about the religion and the culture that goes with it, and I don't think I'm going to be reading much about it real soon so I'll bow out of that conversation right now. Rest of the religions and cultures seem pretty cool though wear a poncho I doubt mexicans would mind, I remember a Casey Neistat vlog where him and his wife wore Indian clothing to go to a wedding and the comments all loved it. Indians in general love seeing people of other cultures like their stuff even if it's for an ego boost like "yeah we have the best food/dance/culture/whatever" I don't see them wanting anyone to stop. Quite the opposite actually.
@clouserants
@clouserants 7 жыл бұрын
Voting for Jarhead because Guardians is clearly the winner regardless. Also glad to hear your voice is sounding way better! And doubly glad to hear such great analysis on such an underrated gem! Really just excessive levels of glad all around.
@AuspexAO
@AuspexAO 7 жыл бұрын
Guardians! And I don't believe culture can be appropriated, because the entire purpose of cultural is to spread ideas. As long as you don't seek to obliterate the source of the culture to supplant it with your own, then you're left with both the original, "pure" cultural experience and the adopted experience which is an amalgam of cultures. Without "cultural appropriation" we wouldn't have Rock music. It borrowed heavily from blues roots, and that was primarily a black cultural movement. I love Rock and I looove the Blues, so one cool thing begat another and everyone wins.
@AuspexAO
@AuspexAO 7 жыл бұрын
That first line should read "the entire purpose of culture" damn phones.
@WaitePenne
@WaitePenne 7 жыл бұрын
AuspexAO I'm going to gently disagree, mostly because I think you're getting culture appropriation and cultural sharing confused. Cultural sharing is stuff like white people eating Mexican or Chinese food, or learning a traditional dance from a teacher of that culture. Cultural appropriation, on the other hand, is things like taking religious symbols from other cultures and using them as casual decorations (like Buddha heads), using terms from other cultures without permission or respect (modern mostly white usage of "spirit animal"), or taking ideas/concepts from a culture and using them for profit without actually addressing the culture in question or giving them any credit (what Mikey was talking about with this movie). There's nothing wrong with cultural sharing, and a lot of people want you to experience things from their culture! Mexican restaurant owners want you to eat their food, Native American craftsmen and artisans want you to buy their goods, so on and so forth. What they don't want is people wearing harmful stereotyped versions of themselves as costumes and stealing precious cultural things from them because we think it's funny or like how it looks. Sorry this got long, it's something that affects a lot of people close to me. I wanted to explain it properly from what they've told me.
@Sackofbooks
@Sackofbooks 7 жыл бұрын
The thing about cultural appropriation is that it generally does "obliterate the source of the culture," even if that's not the appropriator's intent. For example, a seder is a deeply personal expression of the identity of the Jewish people. But when Christians hold their own seders without that same cultural background to draw from, it cheapens the general perception of the practice. This doesn't mean that Gentiles shouldn't study the Jewish way of celebrating Passover or attend a Jewish seder if they're invited (I am a Gentile who has done the latter many times). But they shouldn't try to replicate the practices of another culture unless they are explicitly invited to do so by a member of that culture. That's cultural appropriation.
@FishStickOnAStick
@FishStickOnAStick 7 жыл бұрын
Without permission? How are you supposed to ask an entire culture "Hey, is it alright if we use this thing from your culture in this way?" There's always going to be individuals who disagree with that notion, so do you base whether or not a cultural symbol is ok to adopt on the opinions of what is likely to be a small percentage of the culture? Respect I understand, but that goes without saying, like no Christian is going to be happy if Jesus is depicted as some drug addled murderer in a very prolific religion that some other culture adopted, but that's such an extreme example and that kind of thing never happens. The thing with this cultural appropriation nonsense is that it's always based on the most trivial, superficial garbage. Like that one chick at a college who was lambasting this poor guy for wearing his hair in dreadlocks because he was white. People need to be allowed to borrow from other cultures because otherwise society would stagnate because people wouldn't be allowed to take what others have advanced on. If cultural appropriation was always enforced, paper would only belong to China because they did it first, no one else is allowed to use paper. Or all fucking music ever. You think liberals today would be pleased with Bradley Nowell borrowing from Reggae culture to make Sublime? You think they'd be happy with Elvis borrowing from black R&B culture at the time to help bring rock and roll to the mainstream? And on top of that, it's only ever, EVER used to stop white people from doing stuff. No one is upset because Korean people are Christian and have a Korean Jesus, never mind how disrespectful some Christians might find that considering it doesn't follow along with the Bible seeing as how Jesus was of Nazareth. No one is upset because starving children in Cambodia are wearing hats with Jar Jar Binks on them, never mind how they haven't seen Star Wars, a staple of culture that certainly isn't Cambodian. Now I'm not one of those "White Genocide" fags who thinks that social justice liberal cunts are trying to wipe out the white race, but I do think that social justice liberal cunts are really, really fucking racist towards white people, and hypocritical behavior like that isn't out of line for them as long as it puts down white people. Here's a nice article I found on the subject. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-lefts-misguided-obsession-with-cultural-appropriation/2017/05/12/59e518bc-3672-11e7-b4ee-434b6d506b37_story.html?.7a8cad5c44b0
@Sackofbooks
@Sackofbooks 7 жыл бұрын
Christianity and Star Wars are both things that were willfully shared with cultures other than the ones that produced them. If someone decides to share their culture with you, that is not cultural appropriation. Obviously cultures ought to take ideas from one another in evolving: that is perfectly healthy. What a culture shouldn't do is take ideas from another culture in a way that is detrimental to that culture, because then the harm will outweigh the good. And no, obviously you shouldn't go around asking every member of a culture if using certain aspects of it is okay. I would advise asking a few members of that culture (preferably ones with extensive knowledge of the aspect you wish to use).
@FalconPaladin
@FalconPaladin 7 жыл бұрын
My favorite movie of all time most of the time. Thanks for doing it. :D
@LilWolfie-18
@LilWolfie-18 5 жыл бұрын
If they went with the original idea it wouldn't be as funny or entertaining as today
@LoreleiMission
@LoreleiMission 6 жыл бұрын
For anyone mourning that 2D hand-drawn animation is a thing of the past, do keep an eye for Hullabaloo Steampunk when it comes online. Looks nice.
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about this movie! It is so awesome 😎
@nathanielleon4163
@nathanielleon4163 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man, just wanted to say that you're the best and I really enjoy your work; and I admire your perseverance.
@SantinoDeschain
@SantinoDeschain 7 жыл бұрын
Mikey, you are back, hope you feel better. Missed you
@TheStewieOne
@TheStewieOne 6 жыл бұрын
I just realize that there was there were two movies that didn't do so well and fail to make any money at the box offices that it's ended up shutting down one of the studies, and the other ended up getting demoted. The Iron Gaint and Titan A.E. are good examples of poor marketing.
@Mallory-Malkovich
@Mallory-Malkovich 7 жыл бұрын
Ya still got it, Mikey! Also, Guardians, please!
@Joelmaquera
@Joelmaquera 7 жыл бұрын
12:23 music?
@lolsistrata
@lolsistrata 7 жыл бұрын
Word suggestion: susurrus. Thank you for diving back into the rapidly evaporating pool that is 2D animation. You've made excellent use of the major producers Studio Ghibli and Disney so far, and there are still some noteworthy smaller studios out there that deserve consideration. If you had any desire to return to the topic of animation again, I would love to see your take on production groups like Nelvana (the path from "The Devil and Daniel Mouse" through "Rock and Rule" to "Rockadoodle" is a hero's journey in itself), Cartoon Saloon, and Madhouse, and individual directors like Don Bluth, Ralph Bakshi, Richard Williams (outside of Ziggy's Gift), and even Friz Freling and Ub Iwerks.
@mcallistron
@mcallistron 7 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff. Never stop.
@chrysanthemum69420
@chrysanthemum69420 7 жыл бұрын
great video as always! emperor's new groove is one of my favorites and i loved the analysis of the movie ((also i totally agree with your rant))
@darkvoid7398
@darkvoid7398 7 жыл бұрын
What is the background music 7:38 when the plot comes in?
@Luinta
@Luinta 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I will say is that 2D animation doesnt HAVE to die. Look at the anime industry in Japan. It's jsut that we haven't done as much with animation as we could be doing, especially when we relegate it to kids entertainment. We jsut need to get creative people invested in 2D and watch them soar.
@rivereee
@rivereee 7 жыл бұрын
Guardians! Great work as alway Mikey, you're sounding better and better!
@3dpprofessor
@3dpprofessor 6 жыл бұрын
My "Emperor's" story. I hated it the first time I saw it. Mostly because I was with a girl that wasn't the girl I wanted to be with. But whatever they reason, it wasn't until someone told me it was Disney doing a Bugs Bunny cartoon, and I recognized it as such, especially the scene where Izma is ejected from Patcha's home, that I was able to appreciate the film. Now it's one of my favorites.
@nicholaswagner9206
@nicholaswagner9206 7 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion: Please do Guardians and create an extra director's commentary version with Groot.
@FireBlastStudios
@FireBlastStudios 6 жыл бұрын
Also another note I didn't include in the previous comment because it was too long already, Yzma is never the hero. Kronk is. Kronk is the one who mixes up the potions, Kronk is the one who decides to spare Kuzco's life. Yzma only saves Pacha's hut purely by coincidence, (and would have most likely would have found her own petty reason to destroy Pacha's home later on.) and is content to just sit on her throne and deny peasants food because "You should have thought of that before you became PEASANTS". Not very heroic. But Kronk, despite working for the villain has a conscious, and is just working for the wrong person. Yzma is the villain the movie, in fact she's implied to be the REASON Kuzco's such a jerk. ("Yzma: How could he do this to me? Why I practically raised him? Kronk: Yeah, you think he would've turned out better".) if you want to go the Kuzco as a villain at the start angle, I don't blame you, but then just admit the film starts off with two villains. one changes... the other doesn't. and Moana isn't Hawaiian. Moana is from a fictional island in the South Pacific.. It's important because the South Pacific isn't exclusively Hawaii. Okay, rant over. Sorry about so much complaints, I do still enjoy and appreciate your vids, don't think that I just wanted to share how I feel... and some basic information that's important to the plot but everyone seems to ignore.
@CrapE_DM
@CrapE_DM 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure parts of that river rapids scene WAS 3D animation.
@demondownload
@demondownload 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't know how much I wanted to hear you talk about JARHEAD until this very second.
@cyrevenant
@cyrevenant 7 жыл бұрын
I never knew about the troubled history of this wonderful movie before. Great episode. I'll stick my hand up for Guardians now.
@MurdrBurger
@MurdrBurger 7 жыл бұрын
Keep 'em coming Mikey, I'm officially addicted. Voting for Guardians.
@Joshfryguy
@Joshfryguy 7 жыл бұрын
+1 Jarhead. I really enjoyed this video. Well done!
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