The End of Animation.

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The time to fight for the future of animation has finally arrived as although the Hollywood strikes have come to an end, it seems like studios are already preparing for the impending animation strike by destroying the current landscape. Between layoffs at places like Dreamworks and Avatar Studios, the outsourcing even more jobs, cancelled movie releases like Coyote vs Acme and the rise of AI Animation (alongside Disney's hypocrisy) things are getting dire fast. So sit down and listen up as we run through some of the recent heinous hijinks going on in the animation industry.
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0:00 - Intro
2:12 - Avatar Studios
4:40 - Dreamworks & Outsourcing
16:55 - A.I.'s Bad, Too!
22:45 - Netflix Animation
27:34 - Cartoon Network Doesn't Know What They're Doing
31:55 - Coyote vs Acme
39:46 - What Now?
Hosted, Written and Co-edited by AwestruckVox
Co-edited by Joshua Criger
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[@nalanhazzard]

Animation deserves more respect

[@ThatGuacamolyGuy]

Yes, I agree.

[@kidsethanisabella5025]

Me to

[@AnimationFanboy2k4]

Exactly!

[@gp-1542]

And more money

[@msn64man1]

I agree

[@bethanystrout7767]

Honestly, another thing I appreciate about Indie animation is that the people behind the show are allowed to tell the stories they want without any meddling or threats of cancellation because a higher up decided they don't want the project anymore.

[@hcanimation4102]

Same 😊.

[@albertoromero5075]

Seriously, what do you want, cause more KZbin Community Guidelines to me?! support animated westerns and leave me alone, you sound like someone from another dimension!!!

[@leonishikino6873]

And yet the indie scene is full of people trying to become the next Vizie and copy her style. She's become the Family Guy of indie animation lmao

[@hcanimation4102]

@leonishikino6873 I don't think so. The indie animated shows all have different styles. Creators just get inspired by one another.

[@Cakeslicer777]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@leonishikino6873not really, the one you heard about more are the ones who are are trying to be the next vizie. But by definition, Indie creators are any sort of group that is detached from major media sources such as “Wakfu” and “Lackadaisy”

[@josemunoz152]

I really do hope animators go on strike especially after the whole Spider-Verse fiasco… I love the industry and everyone creating in it and they all deserve to have their talents properly rewarded

[@paul329869]

Yeah, people who do this for a living deserve all credit and respect in the world!!!!!!!!✊🏻✊🏽✊🏿✊🏾✊🏾✊🏼✊🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@albertoromero5075]

but I hate my new life I'm suffering! I miss my good old life from the 2010s era!!!

[@yaboidustin2447]

​@albertoromero5075 that's literally your fault. You are the only person who can make your personal life better.

[@JoaoPereiraCriacoes]

Hollywood is burning down and there's no salvation anymore, until a miracle happens and they get back caring about the beauty of art, which looks like we're lightyears away for that happen. Become an animator in the US industry was my big childhood dream, now it sounds like a nightmare. So I'm here with the thousands and thousands of online artists/animators building our own indie industry. Yes, it's a massive sacrifice and most of us are an one-person studio, but the passion and dedication keep us moving forward to, who knows, make a huge hit. Animation is cinema and we need more support than ever.

[@JustANormalUser215]

Hey Joao! And yes, I can see why the movie/animation industry is declining. But hey, at least we have people who make masterpieces without the association of these big-time companies.

[@JoaoPereiraCriacoes]

@@JustANormalUser215 Yes

[@Julieber1]

It sure looks like any and Anime and Indy is going to take over the American animation industry.

[@tomcurl8034]

If all else fails, artists can post their work on the Internet for the general public to decide whether or not it’s good, and if the general public likes it, enough crowd fund whatever project the artist is trying to get off the ground

[@horushyperion76]

AI Generator: "Perfect..Muawhahaha"

[@albertoromero5075]

If all else fails, ask god to kill us soon! nothing is going to be fixed!

[@Gemini-Lion]

So.. basically abandon major studios and try to make an indie project. Which is notoriously difficult to fund without getting really popular like Glitch production series.

[@albertoromero5075]

@@Gemini-Lion I'm not going to survive this! if this channel to another Animation is DYING video if something continues wrong in the cartoon industry I will die!

[@thegiftedfire3470]

It’s pretty hard to achieve

[@carlwapper]

Animation is for everybody around the whole world, Kids, teens, and adults can watch it any time they want to!

[@JustANormalUser215]

Agreed!

[@xschultz4259]

PREACH

[@paul329869]

PREACHING

[@lukinhas8386]

i jjust wish cartoons from countries that aren't north american or european or japanese gained more attention internationally. Most of these only get to be known in a specific continent or country

[@albertoromero5075]

Animation is paranolla! It mean nothing, they're causing me madness in my head!!! I want this madness to end, I want to end the paranolla nightmare NOW!!!!

[@EtanChamare]

The animation model that Tartakovsky and McCracken have is actually excellent and should become more commonplace. By hiring artists to do more than one thing you're able to hire them full time and give them benefits. There being basically no full time jobs in animation is a huge issue and it actively imprisons animation inside of California. Full-time, stable jobs are the only way animation will ever spread out of California.

[@EtanChamare]

@@maddox121 yes, but I thinking more of spread out of California to the rest of the US. It's extremely difficult to attract talent to a place where talent doesn't already exist if you can't promise them job stability. If we want to decentralize animation we need to offer full time jobs, and whether some people like it or not, a full time job would require that some artists do more than one thing.

[@rubyy.7374]

With how sky-high rent and taxes are, I have no idea how the hell it’s possible to be an artist/actor over there without starving to death.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@maddox121 Nah I'd say give less populated states a chance. Texas & Florida does need more animators, but as a Tennessee citizen I would be happy for animated shows & movies to also be made over here alongside Mississippi, Missouri, Connecticut, Delaware & Vermont. If this doesn't happen, then I, for one, welcome our new European overlords(especially those from Western Europe).

[@monsterking1973]

Animation is incredible we need to give it the support it needs

[@gamefan6219]

Does anime count?

[@monsterking1973]

yes

[@Meowsmind]

@@gamefan6219 Dude... "Anime" is animated. Therefore, Anime, Cartoons, etc.. are ALL included.

[@luphuong5239]

What happened to cartoon network nowadays ? They all making reboot shows (Teen titans go, Ben 10 reboot, Powerpuff girls reboot). It's like nobody even has original ideas anymore. So far the only new shows we have are Fionna and cake which is the continuation of Adventure time series, The Heroic Quest of the Valiant Prince Ivandoe, which has the same art style as Gumball.

[@rayshawnwilliams5673]

i think so@@gamefan6219

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Animation needs to be protected!

[@tiaviva2332]

EXACTLY!!!

[@SilverScribe85]

Hear, hear!

[@christopherrichards2350]

Agreed!

[@VideobotStudiosOfficial]

Agreed! We Can NOT LET CORPORATE GREED RUIN OWN LIVES.

[@johnsantos507]

​@@VideobotStudiosOfficialAnd greed leads to selfish.

[@toon4thought]

With you ending on the note of supporting indie animation, I really think there needs to be a lot more conversation on how - even assuming it'll never replace studio work full stop - we can help actually make it at least a little more viable and sustainable. I would happily help lobby to make grants and subsidies become more of a thing for indie creators. Maybe even establish a dedicated fund with the explicit purpose to funnel money into promising looking projects. It may not be THE future, but there's definitely A future.

[@mylesjude233]

That sounds like a splendid idea 💡

[@jskywalker58]

agree cause it doesn't really seem like there's anywhere else future animators can turn to

[@sketch-eee4165]

Agree

[@SkyBlue-gb3qx]

Indie animation is a safe and friendly place for animators. Plus, there’s a market gap. High end studios continue to disrespect animation, so animators will go to places where the leaders actually appreciate animation. Currently, the only indie animation distributor is glitch productions, But when people notice the severe lack of studios on indie animation and how viable it is currently, we’ll be seeing more indie distributors show up. It will be like indie versions of Warner and dreamworks etc

[@albertoromero5075]

there will be no future, 2024 will be the end of humanity!

[@fabr1cat0rgeneral94]

A silver lining for all this is we sem to be entering the golden age of indie animation. Between megastudios like Disney churning out bland sludge and hoping the brand name is enough to get people's money, to companies like Netflix axing their animation departments because "animation is for kids who have no money," it really seems like audiences have had enough and are turning towards small, independent creators to scratch that itch. The Hellaverse, Lackadaisy, Digital Circus, Murder Drones and more...I haven't seen such a plethora of popular animated shows since the golden age of Nickelodeon and CN in the early 2000s, and it's all coming from these passionate artists who understand that people will open their hearts and their wallets to shows that focus on being *good* rather than ticking a bunch of corporate check boxes.

[@CometCereal]

Plus, with indie animation there are no executives to stifle creative freedom, cut projects short or push unreasonable deadlines. I suppose the only problem would be budget but even then, nowadays indie animation projects seem to gain massive followings who are 100% willing to fund them on sites like Patreon.

[@fabr1cat0rgeneral94]

@@CometCereal If you build it, they will come (and spend their money)

[@thegiftedfire3470]

It's very beneficial for any freelance artists around the world who can do it remotely. Helluva Boss hires freelance animators with similar skillsets around the world. The Lackadaisy pilot was made with a group of people in a Discord server

[@msn64man1]

We need an animation studio that’s for the fans and the animators freedom

[@soramembrino82]

Botilda productions will be the place where creativity comes to life.

[@jstevinik3261]

@@maddox121 I was exactly just thinking that! Thank you! A big issue with UPA was that co-founder and de-facto showrunner John Hubley was pressured to resign because he refused to name names of alleged communists in McCarthyism. This affected the creative direction while management transitioned from artists who are already struggling to be business savy to a guy who wanted to be another TV factory.

[@samuelathanassiou]

@@jstevinik3261 But I know my studio will! All hail Seven Minds, everybody!

[@hendersonsthinkngcap]

Animation is its own artwork. You can do so much with it that you can’t do with live action

[@albertoromero5075]

don't make me attract the KZbin Community Guidelines on me!

[@ihateentertainment]

@@albertoromero5075 THEY ARE SAYING THAT NEW ANIMATDED STUFF GOES WOKE AND BAD WORST FLOPRATE

[@albertoromero5075]

@@ihateentertainment seriously who are you, a spamming bot comment???

[@christopherrichards2350]

Animation deserves respect as a medium and not a genre. Animation is for everyone of all ages and not just for kids

[@albertoromero5075]

don't make me attract the KZbin Community Guidelines on me!

[@omegadrive9999]

It's not medium (Animated or Live Action) that sets the Age Demographic, it's the kinds of Stories someone is willing to tell.

[@albertoromero5075]

@@omegadrive9999 Seriously, KZbin Community Guidelines are watching me, don't made me do this!!!

[@BloxBoiCarti]

Animation really deserves better.

[@yesikanarvaez5027]

We need more seasons for underrated shows

[@mediawatcher9225]

Honestly a bummer how bad things have gotten for animation as a whole, it’s really sad to see these animators be treated as worthless by the comapnies

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Something has happened in the Philippines, where animators, even at Toei Animation’s Filipino branch, are still treated like something similar to sl8ves. It’s horrific!

[@jstevinik3261]

@@SlapstickGenius23 I read, from a book about Ren and Stimpy, about Phill-Cartoons, former branch of Hanna Barbera, in the early 90s, in which bathroom stalls did not contain toilet paper only because management feared that staff would steal rolls. Granted the book is about North American directors getting frustrated with errors, but it was not like these animators back then were not paid enough to care.

[@troin3925]

I'm glad Disney is being put in its place while indie animation flourishes.

[@hcanimation4102]

Same 😊.

[@dj-um7el]

Fr I pray MAPPA can get their stuff together.

[@dj-um7el]

​@@hcanimation4102 Murder Drones is cool! 👍

[@hcanimation4102]

@dj-um7el Yes, I love it so much 😁, and I can't wait for the new episodes coming out in the spring. 🖤💛🩶🤍💜🔪

[@dj-um7el]

@@hcanimation4102 Yeah!

[@kokothehuman2]

I really hope the animation industry is able to live on, its the favorite form of art of so many people, myself included, and its just so amaizing seeing all the work and passion put into the projects

[@albertoromero5075]

don't make me attract the KZbin Community Guidelines on me!

[@slightlybitter]

Hearing WB is actually experiencing such obvious repercussions for writing off finished projects makes me so happy! Hopefully it won’t let up either. I can’t imagine working with them bc I’d know any animation project would be first on the chopping block. It’s nice for them to remember where their money actually comes from 😌

[@doubleR2D2]

One of my biggest dreams as a kid was to break into animation and get the chance to work in the iconic Cartoon Network Studios building. When news broke that it was being shuttered I genuinely felt it as a deterrent to follow animation as a career. It’s very unfortunate that this is the way it is now, but if there can be a change there’s no doubt in my mind that it’s something worth supporting. The strike could NOT come soon enough, nothing but support for everyone who is currently working for the medium but also those who’d get the ball rolling on said strike.

[@JustANormalUser215]

My dream is to break into animation too!

[@TheTrueAdept]

Here's the sad reality, animation as a whole is stuck in the same trap every other industry is stuck in right now: *_humans are too expensive to employ_* as the investors aren't budging on their insane RoIs. We've made ourselves _obsolete_ in a manner reminiscent of cars replacing horses...

[@doubleR2D2]

@TheTrueAdept This is true. The thing is, and to industry execs it's a double edged sword, us humans are indeed very expensive but there's a damn good reason for that. Without us these people themselves would be out of a job. Al certainly wouldn't keep anybody employed for a long enough time that's for damn sure. I'm sure after the streaming wars have finished up and every cash cow has been milked dry these corporate hogs will come crawling back to the "expensive workers" who give the industries life

[@doubleR2D2]

@@JustANormalUser215 I wish you luck with your dream!

[@SkyBlue-gb3qx]

@@doubleR2D2 doubleR? The sonic animation guy doubleR? Omg I didn’t expect to see you here! I watched a lot of your stuff and I can say it’s amazing, and you totally deserve a professional animation job. I genuinely hope you find some sort of stable leading position animating, or some other sort of bright future. We gotta support animation more than ever now.

[@JorgeCruz-eo7js]

WE MUST SAVE ANIMATION!!!

[@gamefan6219]

Even anime?

[@JorgeCruz-eo7js]

@@gamefan6219 Definitely

[@miguelgonzalez-fr4et]

Agreed

[@user-ss7pt2gh2e]

@@gamefan6219 ¡¿what, what the fuck do you people mean: "even anime?", "definitely" and "agreed" did something bad happened to the manganime animation or not?!

[@user-ss7pt2gh2e]

@@maddox121 ¡¿wait, the fuck are you talking about but is it over-exaggerating and over-stereotyping and are you guys over-exaggerating and over-stereotyping or what?!

[@moringlory23]

Hearing companies write animated and live-action show/movies off for taxes is so frustrating to me. If Scooby, Batgirl, and Cayote v Acme were released both in theaters and on streaming, they would have made so much more money then just writting it off. Inside Job and Infinity Train have a cult following, so many people would have brought merch, soundtracks, and box sets. And for companies that are paying their CEOs billions of dollars, if they wanted to "save money" cut that pay down. The CEOs are not the ones in the trenchs working on Animation. And the ones who used to work in production should be ashamed that they sold out their fellow creatives for a quick pay day.

[@user-du2xo6kr6h]

Animation is SO HARD! People, who are do this for a living, deserve more credit and respect! Lord Hater; Wander over Yonder

[@KatoDeville]

Animation has been my favorite medium since literally as long as I can remember. I became a voice actor because I love it so much! I appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos to help the industry. Keep up the good fight!

[@boop004]

that's cool, what kind of voice acting roles do you take?

[@KatoDeville]

@@boop004 Mostly animations, but I’ve done games and commercials as well! If you like, there’s a playlist on my page with stuff I’ve been in. Thanks for asking!

[@rjmckenzie4706]

As a fan of animation this is sad but encouraging. Animation has been bullied for many years and deserves the respect it needs. I will support indie animation, but support the artists of the mainstream. There is hope and i enourage everyone to do the same.

[@derekcd4740]

All of this really scares me since this is the exact career I’m trying to work towards, I’m already slated to start college later next year for animation, if the industry atleast in the U.S. drys up I’m done

[@blakebirdsell6879]

Let’s all support the Animation Guild! 🙏

[@sandrasierra3560]

I'll support when they bring back life lessons animation like as you'd by ginger ect mot this brainless goop we got now adays

[@juderobbins6112]

Honestly independent animation is the king and if the animation industry does collapse we have something beautiful to replace it.

[@boop004]

yep, anyone can draw and collaborate on ideas. don't need suits for that.

[@micjimster4845]

​@@boop004 mabye not just indie creators, but more of a indie company.

[@WeepyGhost654]

JUSTICE FOR INFINITY TRAIN

[@JustANormalUser215]

Infinity Train deserves it!

[@hunterhowey5393]

Animation is cinema. Let’s all supported it.

[@cmccleese6190]

You're not wrong about Avatar Studios. I was recently invited to an internship workshop Nickelodeon featured with my University. Avatar Studios is pretty much looking for dedicated interns that are willing to dedicate 6 months to a year in LA for them in 2024..!

[@garrettviewegh9028]

While I don’t want to see big, mainstream animation production die off in the West, I can’t help but notice a certain, shift. There’s been fewer and fewer animated films and shows that have been received well. While we only get a few new films or shows here in the west, every other year. There’ll never be another banger quite like Gravity Falls, Owl House, or Amphibia. But, where mainstream animation has been a little lackluster the past few years. Indie animation seems to be pioneering that creative storytelling and animation that we’ve been itching for! That we haven’t seen since the Disney rinnessaunce.

[@LightningAdrian]

Finally I wanted to hear.

[@justanotherinternetwiseguy8018]

I remember when I was younger I dreamed about having my own animated series or movie. Now the dream is fading. I hate the idea of not being able to own the rights to my own work and getting screwed over like this. These days I think about having my own independent studio which won't solely be for my stuff. anyone can make almost any genre they want. but I know that I could be expensive and there might be lack of viewership. but hey it seems better than working for a company that doesn't care. I hope these artists are able to do that for themselves or if not then atleast find new ways to share their art with people.

[@djyoshi587]

The PFP also makes this comment so much better

[@justanotherinternetwiseguy8018]

@maddox121 That makes sense. Especially with longer animated projects like claymation for example they need all the resources they can get. I feel like the way that indie is heading Is towards A.I. Might be cheaper than most software, although the animation won't look right. Voice acting as well if they decide to replace voice actors with artificial intelligence.

[@jstevinik3261]

@maddox121 That and hiring freelancers, instead of standard full-time payroll, who tend to be amateurish and semi-professional at most.

[@kayleebatchelor6857]

Did you know that Disney REFUSED to use traditional 2D animation for their movie WISH because of a "lack of skill" within their staff....🤦‍♀️

[@Fan-Nimater101]

As a beginner animator in art school I’m a little worried and I want to create my cartoon And animation is incredible and a great art form!

[@kaylasilverstein4137]

Same here, if I were gonna do it now I would do it with Glitch or one of the indie studios. Or on my own. I have a good show idea too and I’m not willing to give up on it yet (or ever)!!

[@Fan-Nimater101]

@@kaylasilverstein4137 I am making a web comic as a cartoon pitch called Buntastic about a super hero bunny family

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Hey Vox, don't know if you're already know this but there's a Animated movie by Sony Animations in the work being made by Amphibia and Steven Universe Matt Braly and Rebecca Sugar.

[@BestOneEver247]

I'm surprised that Vox has not made a video about that

[@chaoticsky]

Do they not realize that if AI generation gets "good" enough and is available enough for the average consumer to home bake their own movie then they'll be screwed as well?

[@MagnificentMaimonides9797]

I literally made a “AI” art as my first CompSci project it made Manadals based on user experience

[@flowerbloom5782]

Hmm maybe there is a lot more fanmade movies like presidential zomboys on KZbin. 😂

[@TheGamerCritic]

Animation deserves all the love in the world, seeing it treated so horribly is a damn shame.

[@Druginspector12]

spongefox is a cartoonist and animator and deserves to not kill cartoons but hollywood is still destroying animation. it's a theory that animators can find a way to find another animation studio in california that they might ignore the AI, but worse, hollywood might invade ChatGPT And Stable Diffusion Models that might kill animation FOREVER. This needs to stop now, animation never dies in north america.

[@dexdoestings]

When u graduated this year for animation and the industry is still on fire

[@shakeemwinn3647]

Things are definitely going the independent route. It's inevitable now. Most of the talent that used to work for studios will find their voices again with their own crowd funded and self produced shows. The animation industry isn't dying. It's transforming and adapting to the times.

[@nerdgeekman]

It’s honestly sad that Japan respects animation more than Hollywood

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Aww yeah!!

[@dj-um7el]

​@@maddox121 Yep!

[@carminecdinoproductions]

Right

[@reverseshin]

@@maddox121 well sadly this video just shows that it’s a world wide problem. Like Spiderverse is a great example.

[@SuperRedarmy123]

lol forget about mappa

[@theluigifan1]

Nah cause this animation strike is about to be legendary.

[@ReanimationLabs2000-et9ve]

I’m really glad people are finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. For a few years now, all I’ve heard was that the state of animation is horrible and companies are so greedy, but they said that as if nothing could be done about it. I’m so happy people are finally starting to take action now, that’s what I’ve been trying to get them to do since this thing started. As a wise man once said, “let fury have the hour, anger can be power, did you know that you can use it?”

[@ianstewart-vital]

It is disgraceful how animation is treated.

[@SilverScribe85]

Given how much money Disney, Warner and so many other studios have lost this year due to their "brilliant ideas;" I doubt that they'll act too badly towards animation in the new year. At least, that's what I hope

[@mylesjude233]

I hope that too, though the fact we had the studios say stuff like wanting to starve our the workers, I can't underestimate the cruelty of said executive heads.

[@SilverScribe85]

@@mylesjude233 That can't be legal...least of all, not here

[@cosmicspacething3474]

More likely that it’ll be thrown under the bus first…

[@lastbreath3266]

we need more independent animation so we don't have to rely on big corporations

[@boop004]

yeah at some point these larger animation companies have just become the sinkholes for creative types. so many good concepts are put forth only to be scrapped in pre-production or ruined by greed and obfuscation down the line.

[@GoodieGumdropsv.v]

It really is sad that I just wanted to put my foot in the industry and now it’s falling apart. I know I’m going to keep helping my fellow artists and starting out slowly but guess I have to go back to my original plan. Thanks for the update

[@SkyBlue-gb3qx]

This is why indie animation is on the rise. People get to post their works and passions online to the world without the stupid businessmen that don’t give a damn running the show, whilst getting lots of support from the comments and indie production studios like glitch. Trust me, if this keeps up, 2024 will be the year of animation.

[@ivycream7228]

When will studios learn that animation isn’t just for kids

[@mrsnayarlhats4242]

It feels like the animation industry in America is not thriving anymore its like everywhere else in the world animation is thriving 😕

[@mrsnayarlhats4242]

For to long America is going to be the blues without animation

[@mrsnayarlhats4242]

But they're is always a silver lining in every cloud indie animation would be the way to go

[@insectenthusiasts11]

It's great that you are reporting on this. These companies make it seem like everything is fine, and I wasn't even aware of the DreamWorks layoff. Truly horrid how greedy studio executives are.

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

Matt Braly the creator of Amphibia is creating an animated movie for Sony

[@in-completeanimations1715]

40+ MINUTE ROUNDTABLE UPLOAD I REPEAT *40+ MINUTE ROUNDTABLE UPLOAD*

[@zackquickshot]

Justice for animation and all the companies who had made this!!!!!!

[@DanielGuzman-mm8ti]

I always eagerly click on roundtable videos when they talk about animation news like this video.

[@BugsyFoga]

Really hope things can get better, cause where things are now is borderline depressing.

[@spinjitzumasterfalcon]

As someone who dreams of creating my own animation series, I’m a bit worried. I hope things get better soon. Not just for me, but for those already in the industry.

[@wulucarlotta]

I like to view Animation as a technique. A technique that was the only thing people had in order to achieve video before recording frames was a thing, without Animation, video wouldn't be a thing. So thank Animation for making the concept of video possible.

[@trivedibros9083]

Animation deserves more respect!

[@AtomicDenson]

Let’s all be clear here, *WESTERN* animation is in jeopardy. *JAPANESE* animation or just *ASIAN* animation is more or less untouched by any of this.

[@lemon5000-tj6nv]

even then hes only talking about *american* animation

[@DazzlingAction]

simple funky things don't get appreciated enough...

[@_2046]

Yes. I think animation is for everyone, and I'm worried about what is happening in animations and the animators. The industry will still have the bright future that we wanted in the end!

[@mylesjude233]

Excellent work with this animation news coverage. Hopefully things can inprove for the animation industry 🙏

[@thegamingkaiser2874]

With all the hubbub around animation and indie animation, I'm still holding out hope that we get some good stopmotion/claymation series' soon.

[@OldandAbandonedHarcorte]

While I very excited for what Indie Animation (Vivzie-Pop, Lackadaisy and Glitch's Projects) has in store, I am very afraid that it may burn out and die rather quickly if animation in general starts to go under, which this video has very clearly demonstrated is already happening. Animators are in a constant state of NO work or Overworked and it's become really heartbreaking to see things like this happen when its clear people still have ideas and stories they would like to tell through an animated medium. Animation has BY FAR the most potential of any medium due to just how detached from reality it is, and yet we get to see such a small subsection of it with how many fucking shows get canned before they ever hit their stride. Inside Job's Cancellation hit me really hard and I am still holding out for it to be picked back up at some point even though I know by now that it's a total pipe dream. Depending on how things go from this point forward, we may be entering a renaissance of Indie animation and smaller creator sticking up for the rights they deserve, or a dark age where all the creative projects fizzle out within a few years, and with the exception of a couple projects that are from already established IP's the only true new content we get is the serailized slop like modern family guy or simpsons that just makes money on recognition alone. I am not an Animator myself, but my brother is an artist with his talents being primarily in the likes of character design and I worry for him and anyone else in an even remotely similar position right now because Animation is a total hellscape. I pray that Indie animation really takes off in a way none of us expect, as series like Lackdaisy's Funding campaign show that people are always willing to chip in if it means they get quality animation. I'm glad disney is getting so much backlash as of late because they fucking deserve it, and while this video is primarily going over how much it sucks to work in animation right now, it's also just that a lot of what IS coming out is the same garbage we've gotten used to for the last 5 years or so. It falls squarely on the corporate suits who only greenlight what is guaranteed to make them money which is just disgusting even though lots of them have plenty of capital to spare but would rather buy a 3rd golden plated car than fund something which will actually move people.

[@SMM5]

On the plus side, Indie Animation’s doing pretty great, particularly with Glitch Productions making a name for itself. And at least the current generation of fans are learning to treat animation with respect, so the next generation of higher ups might handle things better

[@bulatao195]

"It's not about money, it's about sending a message."

[@strkghost9438]

The reason why I think animation is dying is how they basically no way to make decent profit other than movies both anime and western animation companies basically make no profit meaning low wages for animators and a terrible work environment and that's why I think animated projects get cancelled more often

[@julesbarry755]

I went to school for film & television production, (with a double degree in advertising as backup!) and my goal has been to work in animation production. I’m not an artist, but I would love to work in production management. I have a lot under my belt in production, but I have yet to break into the animation industry. I’ve joined and volunteered for animation groups, networked with people in the industry, and overall have had solid live-action production experience. I’ve had zero luck of getting animation in my 2.5 years of post-grad life. And seeing how the state of the industry is these days, my hope slowly fades💔 It really is my dream, but with the layoffs and outsourcing and blatant disrespect, I don’t know if I should continue chasing this goal…

[@rileybug5861]

doing my animation project for uni while watching this, hoo boy i’m certainly making a *choice*

[@Robo0w0]

This video was a lot but considering many animators have been outcast before standing together and really pushing for the ground we need is something that’s not only feasible but something we can get behind in the coming year, 2024 means war.

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

It’s a interesting time to be a fan of Animation

[@CryAboutIt-ImATroll]

I've been trying to get my foot into the animation world since I was 10, but the years as I got older were flooded with constant comparisons to the VizziePop series and it's caused me to constantly back off and feel insecure of my work. It's not her fault. It's her fans that never knew when to shut the fuck up. I can't ignore it when it's everyone at every corner saying the same thing. With her new show becoming Amazon Primes new gold child it sets my fear definitely that I'll never become an animator and my series will never become a reality.

[@shcdemolisher]

It's more A24 that's funding it, so I would still call it Independent.

[@jaythegemini]

I hope our timeline isn't too dark

[@iamtheduckman112]

Well it’s a good thing I am heading out of this timeline soon.

[@edschelchang6123]

I mean there must be a timeline where Oppenheimer was right and the hydrogen bomb destroyed the earth, so maybe our timeline ain't too bad

[@rockstarbonnie4508]

I hope Ai art will stop, Ai is ugly, I once ask for a picture of a cartoon dog with a sweater and a cute mouse dressed as a maid, and I got dog with two ears and an abomination

[@Hulk1566]

This is what neocapitalism looks like and we need to fight back for animation everywhere.

[@unisangalaxystudio]

You have to remember all those JR animators that never got there foot in the door and half ended there lifes, 😢I lost 2 friends, and i still cant get a job in the animation industry either

[@Jungoguy]

37:45-Zaslav, I will throw a party the day you get fired.

[@silver_dragon128]

This is really heartbreaking to hear, especially as someone who is currently in college for animation and who's dream has always been to become an animator

[@ExileDragon47]

Animations are awesome, amazing, and magical. It deserves so much respect as it brings so many of our childhood.

[@yaummyburger]

normies that say “animation is for kids!!!” should go back to watching euphoria and the idol.

[@ExileDragon47]

@user-ui8xq5yc6h yeah. Clearly, they don't have a very good childhood when they were younger or they don't know how to have fun.

[@yaummyburger]

plus people that say that are making it look like a taboo topic, like periods. It make people ashamed to like it.

[@ExileDragon47]

@user-ui8xq5yc6h damn... well, it's a good thing we have a great childhood than those people.

[@terraceavery4125]

I was always in to animation, because there’s more magic that happens.

[@kaiumeda6341]

Then our alliance is over! THIS MEANS WAR!!

[@NinjaKIngAce]

I'm going to be blunt, but that's only because I care. If the writers' and actors' strikes are anything to go by, the animation strike is just going to mean more cancelations, lay-offs, and outsourcing. Studios have already said that they're going to be greenlighting less projects. Even if the Guild somehow gets everything they ask for, that's still going to mean less jobs.

[@mickeykelly7035]

I LEGIT JUMPED WOTH JOY WHEN YOU SHARED THAT 5 second clip of big top burger ;0;

[@MTSims-ho2nd]

Appreciate your time on these videos! We need to get together to fix animation fast before it’s too late! Also I that music from Jet Set Radio, which been listening to recently. Nice choice 👍🏾!

[@jskywalker58]

since you brought up jet set radio i would honestly love to see sega have paramount make an animated film adaption of jet set radio

[@MTSims-ho2nd]

@@jskywalker58 Yeah I agree but there’s also going to be a sequel that just got announced at the Game Awards year

[@jskywalker58]

i know looking forward too it@@MTSims-ho2nd

[@Tapood74]

its 5am, ive been listening to this while playing minecraft bravo so well made and genuinely made me way more aware about everything

[@LittleGoldRose]

Animation is an Absolutely Beautiful Art form that I’ve enjoyed all throughout my life. It’s painful to see a medium I enjoy suffer due too corporate greed. I myself want to learn how to animate so that I can bring my own creations too life. And I owe Lackadaisy Alot for inspiring me too return to what I love doing, Creating. And I’m determined to see my Ideas for a Webcomic come too fruition. I’d probably go Indie with the project though too keep my creative freedom. Honestly I’m excited to see how far I can go. And I hope the rest of the Industry can improve in the coming years. Thank you for the Wonderful Video Vox! I hope you have a Great night and that you stay safe. Same too everybody watching, stay safe people! 💛😸😸😸💛

[@emagi]

I want animation to live. I never new until a scary time period that I wanted to create an original story but inspired by amazing Disney shows. Gravity Falls, Amphibia, and the mega show The Owl House. I grew up on cartoons man. Animation is a part of me, and I nowadays want to see an animated series multiple times then a live action stuff. But I am picky on what I watch tho. I still want animation to live and when I first heard of this struggle, I was so terrified because something I wanted to do. To tell a story, may not becomea reality. It is the worst to be hearing such struggles, and I may not be an animator or have the skills. But this still hurts me. I wish that I could be living in a world where everything was fine and maybe that things will get better. But that gets shot down a lot as I grow up. I wish there was a way I could help. All I do is post stuff I like, and it's messy. But I make what I love and post it. I wanted to be given the option to make a series of my own characters in like a couple of years. Whether it's an independent animated series worked by professionals or people full of heart. I want to see people make series full of hearts. I'm on the side of people making Indie animation. I want them to have better pay, better work hours, better conditions, and people who understand that animation production takes time. Please be respectful, I may not be interested in every indie animation there is but I love how it's about a team trying to make there story come to life. I love it all! Indie is amazing and support any indie show you want to see thrive. Also help out with the earth here and there (I know that it's not related to te topic but still, needed to be said.) Thanks you AwestruckVox for informing the public but also saying that there is hope still. And I am hoping and praying that we will all get through this hard time. P.s. To those that read this comment through, first of thanks. Out of all the problems there is out there, this is the one that makes me mad and afraid. And the one I wanted to put my two cents in, even though *I am no animation professional.* 😅But to lighten up the mood, what was your favorite animated show as a kid and your favorite show currently?

[@hcanimation4102]

My favorite show currently is an independent animated show called Murder Drones by Glitch Productions, created by Liam Vickers. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend checking it out cause it's really good. I love it so much 🖤💛🩶🤍💜🔪. Also same I've been inspired by Steven Universe, The Owl House, and Infinity Train 😊.

[@donovan802]

Ever since I was 12, I would make a collage of some of my favorite characters growing up as they kept me happy when things like school got on my nerves. I still have a small collage that I want to expand on later. These characters have given us solitude from real-world problems, talked subtly about real-world problems in a light that makes it easier to approach and learn more about, so we can understand who we are as people. These grueling yet informative years regarding the state of the medium, to the point that I - a yearning animated storyteller - has it on my mind daily, have constantly proven to me that executives don’t care about people trying to find works of fiction they can relate to. They’d rather make substance with little-to-no passion or substance or, even worse, paints people of certain communities or minorities in a bad light when they market their projects as a way to represent them. (It’s not that most of hate representation, we just hate when you do it poorly!) If I’ve learned anything the past couple years, working independently - while incredibly arduous - would be a much better decision for me. Among all of KZbin’s problems, they are one of the few places people can go to where they can find illustrated projects that can be what they can be. And in the case of Vivziepop, it’s amazing that Hazbin Hotel is on Prime (hopefully, the service treats it good). That kinda work can go a long way. I am once again that these executives are thrown out and never brought back into the entertainment industry again. I do not wish the staff who put their blood, sweat, and tears into projects that won’t see the light of day. Pay your damn writers. Respect the process. Stop denying that animation is strictly for kids after all the examples shown these past decade. You’re only making yourself look idiotic, which you probably are.

[@cooperstanley3438]

They say that animation is just for kids😀 meanwhile a lot of adults are watching bluey are we sure that animation is for kids

[@cnnickanddisneyfanboy9523]

American animation doesn’t have a future at all. The true future of animation in general are indie animation and foreign animation.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

It's astounsing that animation has proved to be iconic and profitable, but it continues to be undermined and underappreciated.

[@tiaviva2332]

Gosh I hate Disney.

[@bluedragon2969]

Why does this remind me of the phrase from plain rocks video "wE wAnT nInTeNdO dIrEcT"

[@Starwarsfanboy0928]

Animation truly deserves a lot more respect than what has happening lately.

[@ashbasher22nerd93]

I shared this because you explained the situation so well.

[@Emmypinklasagna]

People tend to forget that indie games took a long time to reach their current status. In my opinion, indie animation is making progress in the same way that indie games did in the past, and one major obstacle is that they lack a platform similar to Steam where they can distribute their shows and movies like indie games do. So if we get something like Steam for indie animation then the ball will start to roll at least faster than it already is.

[@blacklightlemon3998]

Cool new character design, (I don’t know if this is the first time your character new character design is shown but it’s still cool)

[@DavidConant]

Amazing video and very well said. Awareness is key as a lot of people were cheering that a child was sourced cheaply to help with spiderverse 2 animation (using plugins made by someone else) under the guise that a young artist was “fulfilling their dreams”. They were being taken advantage of by a studio trying to cut costs and by the way using those Lego Meccabrick plugins for commercial use is illegal.