The End of Moore’s Law?! (Shrinking The Transistor To 1nm)

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Futurology — An Optimistic Future

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This video is the second in a multi-part series discussing computing. In this video, we’ll be discussing computing - more specifically, Moore’s Law with the exponential growth of technology due to our ability to pack more and more transistors into integrated circuits and the potential death of Moore’s Law!
00:00 Intro
[0:30-3:50] The Integrated Circuit - Starting off we'll look at, how the integrated circuit has shaped the world due to our ability to pack more and more transistors into them, more specifically, in their usage in computing in the form of microprocessors (CPUs) and other computation related hardware.
[3:50-7:11] Shrinking The Transistor - Following that we'll discuss, how the transistor will continue to shrink onwards from this year, 2017 and the latest innovations that can shrink them even further, such as FinFETs.
[7:11-10:44] The End of Moore's Law - To conclude we'll discuss, the potential end of Moore's Law once the transistor shrinks to 1nm and what comes after...
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@OptimisticFuturology
@OptimisticFuturology 6 жыл бұрын
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@uurbannssoundss2751
@uurbannssoundss2751 6 жыл бұрын
What's the theme song?
@railfanningstuff8333
@railfanningstuff8333 5 жыл бұрын
there going to stack silicon CPU dies on top of each other just like HMB memory is
@railfanningstuff8333
@railfanningstuff8333 5 жыл бұрын
Also as eh side note cosmic rays have been know to reap havoc on silicon chips with transistors smaller then 45nm creating currents in the electronic pathways that short out ships !
@azza009
@azza009 5 жыл бұрын
I love learning about ICs and electronics specifically CPUs because they are the cutting edge. And I've pondered since 22nm what are we going to do when we get to 1nm great video, please SLOW DOWN YOUR VOICE.
@mugendono23
@mugendono23 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron ball 1nm is impossible. Once you get to 4nm quantum tunnelling becomes a issue.
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 5 жыл бұрын
It’s like housing in a dense city area. When there’s no room left on the ground, you start building up with high rise...
@justicewarrior9187
@justicewarrior9187 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid! Just build bigger chips then! It's like buying more land in your analogy
@d1oftwins
@d1oftwins 5 жыл бұрын
@@justicewarrior9187 Problem is that that "more land" is more expansive than building skyscrapers.
@d1oftwins
@d1oftwins 5 жыл бұрын
@ Not sure if you didn't get my analogy, what I meant is that it is cheaper to build more layers and thus needing less area for one chip on a waver than using less layers and taking up more area on a waver. The greater the area of your chip the less chips you get out of a waver, which means they will be more expensive and your margins are dwindling.
@ghost_ship_supreme
@ghost_ship_supreme 5 жыл бұрын
That's kinda what threadripper is
@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz
@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. 3D chips are way past due.
@samevans515
@samevans515 5 жыл бұрын
Reads the news - Intel is having trouble with their 10nm process. While AMD is already gearing up for a 7nm release in 2019. Poor boi Intel
@shibnathmaji2675
@shibnathmaji2675 5 жыл бұрын
And it launched just yesterday.
@grischu8277
@grischu8277 5 жыл бұрын
And this Video is one year old, sooooo... yea
@MyNameIsPetch
@MyNameIsPetch 5 жыл бұрын
They're not really comparable, Intel's 14nm was equivalent to everyone else's 10nm
@McKiwi2
@McKiwi2 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyNameIsPetch That is true, but the 7nm TSMC node is slightly more dense than Intel's 10nm node. The last thing I've heard is that Intel is reducing the density to try and improve yields, but at the same time, news outlets have been stating that the node is basically dead. So idk?
@ryuuseiboi950
@ryuuseiboi950 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyNameIsPetch They sacrifice multi-core power draw for single core performance. Now that AMD has released their 7nm chips everyone will see through Intel's shit chips.
@erobwen
@erobwen 5 жыл бұрын
I remember how everyone talked about the end of moores law 20 years ago.
@cryingwater
@cryingwater 5 жыл бұрын
I guess we'll stop using a flat sheet as a place to store transistors but use tubes that can run liquid cooling through them
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 4 жыл бұрын
How many more iterations do you think we could get if we wrote better software? (Or designed programs to write better software.)
@painzrt7928
@painzrt7928 4 жыл бұрын
But its for real now.
@jeffwads
@jeffwads 3 жыл бұрын
There is an old Byte magazine cover blabbering that the limit was 250 Mhz....yeah.
@23william90
@23william90 2 жыл бұрын
Little did he know 5nm ended up coming out in 2021
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 4 жыл бұрын
Man I really admire all those engineers and researchers who come up with all this technology. 300IQ
@deathbydeviceable
@deathbydeviceable 3 жыл бұрын
No, not really. A tech junky knows as much of his profession as a drug dealer knows his but neither wouldn't understand each other's
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathbydeviceable What do you mean "not really". Are you saying I DON'T admire them? Lol
@deathbydeviceable
@deathbydeviceable 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelpereira9859 just because a person can create tech doesn't make them 300iq. If you put those professionals in another environment they wouldn't know what to do. That's what I mean. Take elon musk as an example. Put him in Jeff bezos shoes and vise versa then watch both companies crumble
@jessicalloyd2330
@jessicalloyd2330 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelpereira9859 Lol this guy doesn't believe you actually admire them I guess
@JV3Player
@JV3Player Жыл бұрын
​@@jessicalloyd2330 hahahaha
@afinafina
@afinafina 6 жыл бұрын
How are you not insanely popular!? Proud early subscriber
@palfers1
@palfers1 6 жыл бұрын
Speed is OK for me but not for many others - so slow it down. Also, you should inflect more, else your flat, robotic tone (sorry) will repel people. Great job on the content! Subbed!
@wu1ming9shi
@wu1ming9shi 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i think the constant montonous tone is throwing me off a bit. It would be fine for a 5 minute long vid but not 10.
@entiretwix1480
@entiretwix1480 5 жыл бұрын
This is a wholesome comment
@b3at2
@b3at2 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Palfreyman no he sounds fine
@shiskeyoffles
@shiskeyoffles 5 жыл бұрын
I actually listened at x1.25 lol
@HElSENBERG
@HElSENBERG 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Palfreyman there is an option on KZbin to slow down the speed of a video. Btw i am not native in English but have no problems following the video
@moonmanvic
@moonmanvic 6 жыл бұрын
Why does this seem like a Cold Fusion Vid...🤔
@ZeroRelevance
@ZeroRelevance 6 жыл бұрын
moonman_Z Probably the voice and quality
@LukusMaxamus
@LukusMaxamus 6 жыл бұрын
*_C O L D F U S I O N T V_*
@davidr3626
@davidr3626 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@mikimouse3001
@mikimouse3001 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts the same 😱
@SjoerdvdKraan
@SjoerdvdKraan 5 жыл бұрын
Same concept, less quality
@freeman2399
@freeman2399 5 жыл бұрын
To bad RAM prices haven't come down in accordance with moors law.
@mariagabrielamorillozambra4258
@mariagabrielamorillozambra4258 3 жыл бұрын
Ye,idk wh6 people dont want ram,q Why not even server owners,as i server owner and gamer.For .y .inecraft server i use corsair ripjawas ram,for all of my servers together,160 sticks.
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 3 жыл бұрын
It has indeed come down, 12 years ago 512 mb of PC 133 cost me $139.00 dollars and that was the going rate. Now I can buy 16 gigs of DDR4 3200 for around $100.00 give or take a few bucks. You new to computers?
@freeman2399
@freeman2399 3 жыл бұрын
@@garyr7027 Yes now it's cheap. Two years ago it wasn't.
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 3 жыл бұрын
@@freeman2399 compared to 12 years ago, it still was. If the prices back then was still the same rate today per meg, 16 gigs would cost over $1100.00 dollars. At that rate, many would still be using a gig or less.
@heberorozco182
@heberorozco182 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ur an idiot...
@edwinmburu7278
@edwinmburu7278 3 жыл бұрын
watching this 4 years later ibm announces a 2nm chip
@nlrman
@nlrman 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm many companies can announce nano1 or even omstrom(tech beyond nano) but only 2 companies in the world that can make chips with nano7 and beyond, SS and TSMC. AT nano5 and competing for nano3. Samsung anniunced that they have nano3 with GAA feasible and will start producing q1 of 2022. TSMC looks last in GAA tech and will stick with finfett. My point is, they can announce all they want but wont be available until some companies are capable of nano3 tech.
@lucianogutierrez7676
@lucianogutierrez7676 6 ай бұрын
2 years later we have AGI almost here..
@adaywithoutconscious7407
@adaywithoutconscious7407 2 ай бұрын
We here bro
@siwexwot8994
@siwexwot8994 29 күн бұрын
with worse specifications than its 5nm...
@ghostl337
@ghostl337 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand him clearly, you guys need to overclock.
@nickbuddy1787
@nickbuddy1787 5 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😂😂🤣
@marverickbin
@marverickbin 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not native speaker. I downclocked to. 75 speed and got everything.
@littlerussianmax5831
@littlerussianmax5831 4 жыл бұрын
It is funny that french guy and japanese guy talks with strong accent and chinese guy talks with no accent at all.
@fatmagamal3701
@fatmagamal3701 4 жыл бұрын
i think its because of the hideous annoying music in the back ground
@eduardovieira5292
@eduardovieira5292 4 жыл бұрын
OK, For native speakers is easy... kkkk
@jordanbennett6461
@jordanbennett6461 5 жыл бұрын
This video prompted me to go and learn how transistors work and come back. Great video and holy cow my mind is blown. Very appreciative of the scientists amd engineers that have made this all possible
@dorgodorato
@dorgodorato 5 жыл бұрын
This kind of presentation is the stuff we all dreaded doing in high school, and now KZbin is packed end to end with these kinds of videos with way more effort than could be expected.
@eliubfj
@eliubfj 5 жыл бұрын
To those complaining about the fast narration, Adjust your setting to 0.25 playback, Goodbye
@SineDeus
@SineDeus 5 жыл бұрын
lfe is to short to adjust settings
@TheTimmy4745
@TheTimmy4745 5 жыл бұрын
@@SineDeus life is too short to complain about trivial stuff. it would take longer to complain about the voice speed than it would to just change the speed.
@SineDeus
@SineDeus 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTimmy4745 did I complained about the video? Don't think so
@camerica7400
@camerica7400 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched it at 1.5x because I realized 2x was too fast haha
@probably_seohyun
@probably_seohyun 5 жыл бұрын
@@camerica7400 Just put it on 0.75x much better.
@andyy6481
@andyy6481 3 жыл бұрын
IBM just made the 2nm chip!
@dittocopys
@dittocopys 6 жыл бұрын
"bite-sized chunks of content" had to be the most comedic line in this video. do love the style, learned so much in what only felt like 10 mins.
@SuperMutantSomething
@SuperMutantSomething 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the day somebody would use synthwave/vaporwave music to new technology. Love your video, sub'd!
@OptimisticFuturology
@OptimisticFuturology 6 жыл бұрын
It just fits so perfectly!
@Entritarus
@Entritarus 5 жыл бұрын
6:52 Home - Resonance...
@mitchellbuehler6058
@mitchellbuehler6058 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video - very informative, very high quality, and very well edited. Subscribed and hope to see your channel grow!
@OptimisticFuturology
@OptimisticFuturology 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ThumperJunkie
@ThumperJunkie 5 жыл бұрын
Ignore what everyone is saying about talking to fast, this video was the perfect pace and you can always rewind/scrub the video if you missed something. To be honest this video was a perfect refresher on the topic and I greatly appreciated the work that went into it.
@harshbarj
@harshbarj 6 жыл бұрын
The death of Moore’s Law? I have been hearing this for 20+ years. It's unlikely to happen anytime soon. Even when we hit the limit for transistor size we likely will just start layering them as we do with flash.
@ericksanchez8760
@ericksanchez8760 5 жыл бұрын
dont froget graphene processors
@mikimouse3001
@mikimouse3001 5 жыл бұрын
How about heat dissipation?
@andrewscott7728
@andrewscott7728 5 жыл бұрын
It's already happened. Intel and Nvidia have both released flagship cpu/gpus that aren't really faster than their last year counterparts for the first time.
@FrostEclipse21
@FrostEclipse21 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Scott That's because of greed.
@eriksvensson2098
@eriksvensson2098 5 жыл бұрын
@@FrostEclipse21 or so we'd like to think atleast
@redtails
@redtails 5 жыл бұрын
Nvidia is cheating with Moore's law. Instead of relying on making node size smaller, they simply increase die surface area. Moore's law makes an assumption that each product is of similar production costs, but this assumption is unfair. If you plot for computing power per price unit, you'll notice that the last few data points on the Moore's law graph are all outliers
@BenRay47
@BenRay47 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@logiconabstractions6596
@logiconabstractions6596 5 жыл бұрын
@Akin Khoo I agree. In fact you can pretty much extrapolate (see what I did there?) Moore's law to pretty much any important metric about computer power & digital performance, as he showed in the video. And as he said at the end, it doesn't even really matter, ultimately, that the size of the chip is going down. As long as the computing power increases, even if it's from CPU processing optimization (better planning computations so there's less overhead, basically, and compiling them in a way that avoids multiple computation when possible), we're good. The letter of the law may be broken, but the spirit remains true. No cheating in that.
@hyperhektor7733
@hyperhektor7733 5 жыл бұрын
For the PC Market no one cares if the Chip is 1 inch or 5 inches big ;D only "smart"phone hipsters need small chips so they can carry their survailance device everywhere and look cool ;D
@logiconabstractions6596
@logiconabstractions6596 5 жыл бұрын
@@hyperhektor7733 You seem half serious, but still. The density of computing power matters just as much a costs. You can see it as the number of operations you can perform per volume unit. Just as increasing computer density has made possible PC (which would never be possible with, say, the 70's density that could be achieved, regardless of price). Greater computing density enable applications unthinkable before. Of course price matter, otherwise there's not breadth to the market for computing power. I see price as breadth & density as depth, in a way...
@hyperhektor7733
@hyperhektor7733 5 жыл бұрын
@Francis Vachon i am on Board since Windows 3.11 and the x386 Cpu :D and i installed and since then every windows version and build every PC my self (the newest midprice-cpu which was aviable at the time). So i can say i have a kind of overview of the topic :). What i see is that the cpu-power is wasted by the programmers, since they started to use more and more less efficient programming languanges(for programms and operating systems). So the hardware becomes faster but the user experince stays the same since 20 years xD. We already are far beyond the point where performance per volume counts. I can buy a used xenon CPU for 7$ on ebay which has 4000 Passmark points which is insane. People these days have really no clue how powerfull cpus are , they think an i7 is just good enough for websurfing lol. BTW, the time where you can compare cpus by Ghz or cores or cache stopped When the first Intel-cpus with ratings came up. I found the most consistent and largest database is from passmark.com. They have very old cpus and the newest so i use this as comparison since 15 years for my cpus.
@rahmanash9856
@rahmanash9856 6 жыл бұрын
Hands crossed and waiting for branches of computing other than classical type
@OptimisticFuturology
@OptimisticFuturology 6 жыл бұрын
Getting there!! Just want to run down classical computing first as a prelude!
@midnightowl2323
@midnightowl2323 5 жыл бұрын
Quantum computing exists. You can uncross those arms😂
@aayushagarwal5638
@aayushagarwal5638 4 жыл бұрын
(On the funny side) Are you a robot in human form to have so much information sequencetially bombarded over us to short-circuit our brains to pieces? (On a serious note) This is just mind-blowing information with never-seen-presentation-style which keeps going on and on and there is no chance of skipping any part of the video. Hats-off to you for all the hardwork.
@roax206
@roax206 5 жыл бұрын
last I checked the nm size of a processor doesn't actually have much relation to the size of the transistor or even the computing power anymore. It is mainly just used to give a sense of noticeable improvement for each new process, with processes from different manufacturers with different "sizes" often being comparable to each other.
@andrewhenshaw4067
@andrewhenshaw4067 Жыл бұрын
I looked on youtube and found out that the 5 nm and 2nm chips actually are bigger than that but because of their design they are equal to the power of a theoretical 2nm chip The transistor is then marketed as a 2nm transistor even though they aren't actually that small Link to the video that explains it kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZWvg4Z8atyNpqc
@coringavinte5105
@coringavinte5105 6 жыл бұрын
vaporwave is strong with this one
@luker.6967
@luker.6967 5 жыл бұрын
While things may stall at ~3nm, cost of production will be improved, effectively further increasing performance.
@garrytalaroc
@garrytalaroc 5 жыл бұрын
This video is top notch. Did a lot of research and analysis before uploading it. Thank you. Great video.
@zone6ea404
@zone6ea404 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOUUUUU For listing the song names in the description 👌🏾
@David_Cerkez
@David_Cerkez 5 жыл бұрын
Intel is releasing 10 nm cpu in 2018 😂😂😂
@dajces94
@dajces94 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one xD
@sergiosierra6849
@sergiosierra6849 5 жыл бұрын
yeah lol'd at that
@macrett
@macrett 5 жыл бұрын
14nm* also weird way to spell Shintel
@shiffterCL
@shiffterCL 5 жыл бұрын
@@macrett 7nm coming from amd soon.
@Ninja-iq2xt
@Ninja-iq2xt 5 жыл бұрын
amd releasing 7nm soon, forget intel.
@yusufdomun303
@yusufdomun303 2 жыл бұрын
we're now at 2nm
@not_aeo
@not_aeo 4 жыл бұрын
Brain Food Spotify Playlist playing the whole video. Good stuff.
@ravikantin
@ravikantin 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making such a informative video, can you please decrease the bass level. bass is high in voice.
@4touchdowns1game29
@4touchdowns1game29 5 жыл бұрын
This isn't just happening with computers look at tons of other things. Compare a motocross bike from 1996 to 1986 huge difference. Now compare a 2006 to a 2016 not nearly as big of a difference. Same thing with cars etc. Have we hit a wall in an innovation sense?
@hihtitmamnan
@hihtitmamnan 5 жыл бұрын
electrical cars are entering the normal market. we need to change silicon to something better. graphene seems to have many problems nowadays.
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a bigger focus on efficiency, and it seems like that might be where we are headed.
@4touchdowns1game29
@4touchdowns1game29 5 жыл бұрын
I feel the next big innovation will be based in understanding how to bridge the gap of electrical signals between machine and human. If we could understand better the electrical signals our brain receives regarding simple things like physical sensation you could theoretically mimic real life sensations while in VR.
@topdog6843
@topdog6843 6 жыл бұрын
Amd 7nm gpu
@Beos_Valrah
@Beos_Valrah 5 жыл бұрын
_Oh yeah yeah_
@hakf8
@hakf8 5 жыл бұрын
Had to watch it on vapor wave speed, music also gets better this way, everything is more chill
@felixcalderon7258
@felixcalderon7258 5 жыл бұрын
This was a really well made video. I loved it!!
@lilpandaftw
@lilpandaftw 5 жыл бұрын
Some constructive advice: slow down, and have some more inflexibility in your voice, it’s a little monotone.
@evanwatling3897
@evanwatling3897 5 жыл бұрын
lilpandaftw No. his speed is fine
@lilpandaftw
@lilpandaftw 5 жыл бұрын
@@evanwatling3897 Look at the comments. A lot of people don't agree with you.
@evanwatling3897
@evanwatling3897 5 жыл бұрын
lilpandaftw That doesn’t mean that I’m wrong.
@blib3786
@blib3786 5 жыл бұрын
Sentient2x It kinda does though.
@evanwatling3897
@evanwatling3897 5 жыл бұрын
Zane Just because there’s a comment section full of flat earthers doesn’t mean that people disagreeing with them are incorrect.
@skoojha5216
@skoojha5216 5 жыл бұрын
What other aspects of computing should be considered before we say Moore's law may be dead by mid 2020's.
@noumankhan6762
@noumankhan6762 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome bro, im so proud to be your early subscriber before you go insanely popular!
@mentalplayground
@mentalplayground 5 жыл бұрын
Some pause between sentences would be a massive improvement. Very interesting information F for delivery.
@masaratech
@masaratech 5 жыл бұрын
watch in 0.75x speed
@codeninja1832
@codeninja1832 5 жыл бұрын
John Vatic lmao, you're right.
@EnjoyingEnjoyer
@EnjoyingEnjoyer 5 жыл бұрын
I tought he was speaking way too slowly :/
@tehpwnerer6821
@tehpwnerer6821 5 жыл бұрын
first thing i tried. audio is "chopped" at 0.75... speedup works fine, slowdown not
@jacobnunya808
@jacobnunya808 5 жыл бұрын
I was watching at 2.0x. IT'S OKAY THOUGH!
@jacobnunya808
@jacobnunya808 5 жыл бұрын
at that speed it sounds like he is telling a bedtime story.
@klklkl427586
@klklkl427586 5 жыл бұрын
This is a bit misleading, transistors in today's 10nm process are a lot bigger than 10nm and their smallest features are still bigger than 10nm.
@hihtitmamnan
@hihtitmamnan 5 жыл бұрын
that's true. too bad people don't know that. he made tons of mistakes in the video because of that. 7 nm is actually something between 20-50 nm as far as i remember.
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 5 жыл бұрын
Where did they come up with 10nm then? If the transistors are (twice?) that size, than what exactly IS 10nm? Is it just a made up number? A goal? If 10nm isn't 10nm then what's the point of even using a measurement? 😟 Please tell me that something in that chip is 10nm.
@hihtitmamnan
@hihtitmamnan 5 жыл бұрын
@@Inertia888 nothing is 10 nm there, sorry...
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 5 жыл бұрын
@@hihtitmamnanThat is a real bummer. It's a Big Fat Lie. How can I trust anything they claim?
@hihtitmamnan
@hihtitmamnan 5 жыл бұрын
@@Inertia888 for example Intel's 10 nm process is equal in size to AMD's 7 nm. It's a lie, but the truth is that each process is getting better and I think that matters the most
@ryanbigguy
@ryanbigguy 2 жыл бұрын
An updated version of this video would be really cool
@calinalecsandru181
@calinalecsandru181 5 жыл бұрын
The 2018 Apple A12 Bionic is the first commercial processor in the world to feature 7nm transistors 😁 I do understand why you didn't mention this in the video, as this video was made back in 2017. Awesome video nonetheless. You can really see the effort put into this.
@sweetyd
@sweetyd 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Slow down turbo, you talk a bit fast and robotic! Otherwise, great video!
@Yoshi-wx8sx
@Yoshi-wx8sx 3 жыл бұрын
"Snapdragon 850 has 10nm transistors" Snapdragon 888: laughs in 5nm
@mik310s
@mik310s 5 жыл бұрын
Great video dude, this is the first Ive heard off nano sheets
@logiconabstractions6596
@logiconabstractions6596 5 жыл бұрын
Solid video. All the while I was building an argument about Moore's law as the narrow definition we know coming to an end, but the overall trend in increasing in computing power holding true for likely much longer. For the reasons you said, essentially. When starting from transitors, which were fairly big, the low-hanging fruit was downsizing it. Once we had integrated chips, the low-hanging fruit was still downsizing because they were still huge and because those remained in effect a "first draft" - the concept was working but far from efficient and optimized space-wise. That means we really haven't touched in comparison things like 3d stacking of chips, instructions compilations optimizations & so on. Hopefully that buys us a few more years/decades of Moore's law until we can figure some sort of commercially usable quantum computer. Then we can leap again. Even if such a computer never gets to the smartphone-level of tech and remains confined to specialized, centralized data center, they would still provide huge computer power that can be distributed through networks.
@JohnnyBGoode-tt7yv
@JohnnyBGoode-tt7yv 5 жыл бұрын
And all for what purpose - so we can watch more movies on our talking fridges! Will KZbin videos play any faster? All this technology for the sake of more technology is useless if it does not make any real advances in the quality of life as we know it. Does the world really need an All-seeing, All-knowing Cloud? Do we really need better video War games? Will real wars and conflicts over limited resources end? What happens to the Military Industrial Complex that runs the world - do those $Trillions get returned to the common-good? Will the AI tell us who really did 911 and how?
@logiconabstractions6596
@logiconabstractions6596 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyBGoode-tt7yv Yeah but in a sense you are talking about the by-products. Parallele to those by products, our ability to simulate a lot more things did lead to advances in medecine and other things. More will follow. It does, as well, improve life I would argue.
@Feyzei
@Feyzei 3 жыл бұрын
5nm is here now
@simonmayrand5584
@simonmayrand5584 6 жыл бұрын
please slow down a bit, great video though.
@jordanmoorman5024
@jordanmoorman5024 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Mayrand you can slow down the audio on youtube, or speed it up
@simonmayrand5584
@simonmayrand5584 6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Moorman thank you good trick😀
@ab7988
@ab7988 5 жыл бұрын
Set the speed at 0,75
@randomsubject4537
@randomsubject4537 5 жыл бұрын
I love the video, your voice is pretty nice and the speed you narrate is perfect.
@gkarjala
@gkarjala 5 жыл бұрын
I work in the Electro polymer bziness, so it's good to learn what our customers are up to. Thx.
@illuxion
@illuxion 5 жыл бұрын
*S Y N T H W A V E*
@sachinmajotra9665
@sachinmajotra9665 5 жыл бұрын
I know right
@Bluedragon2513
@Bluedragon2513 5 жыл бұрын
It's Home - Resonance
@marnuvanniekerk467
@marnuvanniekerk467 6 жыл бұрын
awesome channel but you talk too fast bro
@TelmoMachadoSistemas
@TelmoMachadoSistemas 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me? in the time of the video at 5 minutes, does it describe a transistor? and the 64bit (SIX-CORE CPU) model has within it the 4.3 billion of this piece described, is that right?
@AxemanMessiah
@AxemanMessiah 3 жыл бұрын
Here I am with a 5nm iPad in 2020. In just 3 years since this post it went from 10nm to 5nm!
2 жыл бұрын
just bought a phone with a 4nm chip : D
@mrboleus8240
@mrboleus8240 5 жыл бұрын
What if hardwade limit is at 99% but software optimization is at stone age with 0.000000001%.... We don't need hardware shrinkage, more likely to do software magic...
@gaiazoulay9
@gaiazoulay9 5 жыл бұрын
MR BOLEUS for example apples phones are silky smooth with 2gb of ram
@mrboleus8240
@mrboleus8240 5 жыл бұрын
@@gaiazoulay9 Bullseye!!!
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 5 жыл бұрын
@@gaiazoulay9 no one cares there are applications that needs superpowerfull chips for super fast calculations
@TuskForce
@TuskForce 5 жыл бұрын
@Mikasa Imagine what kinda experience we'd have if every line of code was optimized ;)
@wichitawwojak3786
@wichitawwojak3786 5 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv The only reason it needs a superpowerful chip is because the code sucks
@ZeeJayStudio
@ZeeJayStudio 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully Explained.
@kichigaisensei
@kichigaisensei 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. The number of transistors on chips and price per GB graphics would have appeared more dramatic to the non-technical person if you would have make the scale linear rather than logarithmic.
@joelvercitte2892
@joelvercitte2892 4 жыл бұрын
10:33 corona virus first appear;
@susmittayade4643
@susmittayade4643 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@breadifies2800
@breadifies2800 6 жыл бұрын
I feel drastically smarter now... (+ 1 sub)
@MeyerBlignaut
@MeyerBlignaut 6 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Keep up with the good content! Thanks!
@GuillaumeVerdonA
@GuillaumeVerdonA 6 жыл бұрын
Dude. Awesome video.
@Tadesan
@Tadesan 5 жыл бұрын
Moore’s law isn’t a law. It was an interesting idea. The fact that it has had so much influence on this technology is completely artificial. It’s impossible to say where the industry might be had Gordon Moore not made what is essentially an economic guess.
@call_me_anny
@call_me_anny 5 жыл бұрын
you do know amd is on 7nm right
@Armand0008
@Armand0008 5 жыл бұрын
That is not the limit though. The limit is closer to 3-4nm. Also, using a combination of materials might push that limit even further.
@RawLu.
@RawLu. 5 жыл бұрын
Should do a video on how AMD is Destroying Intel? And despite AMD achieving 7NM B4 intel!?! You still only show Intel's Grossly Overpriced Crap in your video?... LOL!...
@sav22rem22
@sav22rem22 5 жыл бұрын
RawLu You realize you copy and pasted this onto someone with the same opinion as you? Complete and utter moron
@kyles5751
@kyles5751 5 жыл бұрын
@@sav22rem22 He put it on at least 4 others too. People are retarded.
@Alkaris
@Alkaris 6 жыл бұрын
Stacking transistors vertically is the way to go for sure, but until other rising technologies be used for CPU computational power, such as Graphene, which is comprised of hexagonal structure, which provides better efficiency for electrical, storage and even store data in graphene, and then you also have the other technology of light-based CPU for computation, fibre optics, which should provide
@tamer27antepli
@tamer27antepli 5 жыл бұрын
Was gonna switch to other video, nope, stayed here for HOME
@ozdemirsalik
@ozdemirsalik 6 жыл бұрын
Multiple layers on a single chip is the answer.
@ozdemirsalik
@ozdemirsalik 6 жыл бұрын
Walther Penne Well, maybe a different material can solve the heating problem. I have heard that the graphene is pretty good at this.
@ozdemirsalik
@ozdemirsalik 6 жыл бұрын
Tommy Hammernots I know, but I meant more layers, and probably with different materials.
@ozdemirsalik
@ozdemirsalik 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4ayXplmoK6ajLc
@williamforbes6919
@williamforbes6919 6 жыл бұрын
Walther Penne I don't think you have bothered to check the current state of technology. But we already do stacked die CPUs and memory. As long as the wafers are sufficiently thin. You can just back down the frequency and voltage till you hit the peak of the efficiency curve. Cooling is a problem, but it isn't "the" problem. It has the same issues as other large die solutions, more surface area means more percentage chance that there is an error, with the added bonus of damage during the stacking and soldering the TSVs. Stacked dies will be popular outside of embedded processors not long after we have more reliable lithography and better testing equipment.
@kwisclubta7175
@kwisclubta7175 5 жыл бұрын
@Walther Penne So what can be done to speed up the process of turning the heat in your processor into Hot Air Dude? And what happens to Hot Air Dude after his transformation? Does he fly out of your PC on the wings of a stork? I am fascinated to learn more about this Hot Air Dude.
@daisyduck8593
@daisyduck8593 5 жыл бұрын
One atom is about 0,3 nm and they say 2 - 3 nm is the limit for transistors...
@daisyduck8593
@daisyduck8593 5 жыл бұрын
On wikipedia is writen humans have build a 0,4 nm working transistor.... But ok I think for microprocess chips maybe 2 - 3 is the limit...
@Rams912
@Rams912 5 жыл бұрын
At least on silicon ;)
@daisyduck8593
@daisyduck8593 5 жыл бұрын
Microchips in our smartphones are 12 nm. For records in 8K video they will need to be 4x more powerfull, so they need to be in 3 nm !
@daisyduck8593
@daisyduck8593 5 жыл бұрын
@Hernando Malinche I know :) Its the first mass production device with a 7 nm chip. My note 8 can 4k video recording with I would say a 14 nm chip.
@daisyduck8593
@daisyduck8593 5 жыл бұрын
It gets very hot. If you have more transistors you can reduce frequency or operation times, and this reduce heat... No ?
@grahmwaddle7348
@grahmwaddle7348 5 жыл бұрын
Great content I learned a lot keep it up. 👌
@busterstig7830
@busterstig7830 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this you made more sence than the previous 10 vedioes I've watched and yea your right it's got to slow down or stop eventually you can't go smaller than atom and it's eliments itself right
@NorthGermanic
@NorthGermanic 6 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing info, video and narrating. No, don't slow down your speech. It's perfect ! Short, concise and straight to the point, as it should be. Other channels should learn from you.
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete 6 жыл бұрын
AJ81 Number 15: Burger King Foot Lettuce...
@cindercinnamon2204
@cindercinnamon2204 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I understood perfectly I don't know if these snails got it though ;)
@Gabe-ch2ol
@Gabe-ch2ol 5 жыл бұрын
r/iamverysmart
@MyNameIsPetch
@MyNameIsPetch 5 жыл бұрын
It's comprehensible just not an enjoyable listen
@N3G4T3
@N3G4T3 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, us damn snails. Can't even get a simple video.
@TheBanjoShowOfficial
@TheBanjoShowOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
r/iamverysmart
@EagleLogic
@EagleLogic 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! One of the coolest videos I've ever seen! Very informative! You talk at a fine speed. People are just bitching and moaning.
@powdermcdust8335
@powdermcdust8335 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is gold....
@WiningSwag
@WiningSwag 6 жыл бұрын
I believe it will never end, the evidence being the universe itself will always be infinite.
@OptimisticFuturology
@OptimisticFuturology 6 жыл бұрын
You may be right! There are some laws of physics limits we'll be approaching soon, however, there are also many alternatives the computing industry is beginning to shift towards. I'll be covering these in upcoming videos :) Thanks for watching!
@amit4rou
@amit4rou 6 жыл бұрын
Singularity Prosperity waiting for those videos as an early suber
@jayesper4390
@jayesper4390 6 жыл бұрын
ZeN The universe isn't infinite, I think that's why we all die, even the universe itself. Just imagine if there was one though!
@josephmoore4764
@josephmoore4764 6 жыл бұрын
Infinitely large maybe, not small though. Atomic theory is pretty well founded, and after that size you run into the fundamental information density of the uncertainly principle
@NorthGermanic
@NorthGermanic 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Moore Uncertainty.
@frankmathews1358
@frankmathews1358 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the free education. We love you.
@Princearom1
@Princearom1 5 жыл бұрын
Moore's law is not ending. We've just managed to push it further back. Eventually, maybe a decade from now this new generation of transistors will hit the same bump again. Unless we develop another ingenious way to do things again. Props to the people behind this development tho.
@nick23358
@nick23358 3 жыл бұрын
10:30 coronavirus in 2017
@dignes3446
@dignes3446 3 жыл бұрын
This video was sponsored by Illuminati.
@nick23358
@nick23358 3 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@TheZenytram
@TheZenytram 3 жыл бұрын
did you know virus existed before covid right.
@nick23358
@nick23358 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheZenytram yes🤡
@aaronmicalowe
@aaronmicalowe 5 жыл бұрын
Quantum computers will continue the trend even if there's a delay...
@marcusm5127
@marcusm5127 5 жыл бұрын
No they will double even faster but with bigger jumps and longer time between. Steeper curve fewer points on it.
@aaronmicalowe
@aaronmicalowe 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcusm5127 a true quantum computer would but they are hampered because they still need to interface with the old technology - electronics. A true quantum computer doesn't run off electricity. For example, current quantum chips can be placed onto a motherboard that runs off electricity. The quanta to electric conversion introduces inefficiencies and delays. As we rely less and less on electrical computers we'll be able to do more.
@Lara__
@Lara__ 3 жыл бұрын
Does quantum tunnelling stop happening when a particle is being observed? Is it the same as the wave function, that collapses when observed in the double slit experiment? So for example, if you want to make faster CPUs under the 2nm lithography, would one solution be to observe when an electron passes via a logical gate?
@thewalnutwoodworker6136
@thewalnutwoodworker6136 2 жыл бұрын
lol, not how that works.
@maegodragon
@maegodragon 10 ай бұрын
Great Music, Great Graphics and Clear Fast Explanation!
@saltyowl3229
@saltyowl3229 5 жыл бұрын
>intel releasing 10nm in 2018
@RawLu.
@RawLu. 5 жыл бұрын
Should do a video on how AMD is Destroying Intel? And despite AMD achieving 7NM B4 intel!?! You still only show Intel's Grossly Overpriced Crap in your video?... LOL!...
@ememvladislav7521
@ememvladislav7521 5 жыл бұрын
@@RawLu. intel make their own die, amd and nvidia dont
@WinArmyOfficial
@WinArmyOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
production costs go down , market prices go up! thats how you know you are enslaved!
@Demon09-_-
@Demon09-_- 5 жыл бұрын
but the price to research and figure out new tech does not go down. them figuring out and finding how to make stuff smaller and smaller but keep the same performance is not suddenly cheap
@W1ldSm1le
@W1ldSm1le 5 жыл бұрын
In terms of design the low hanging fruit is gone, die shrinks represent more and more man hours, new tools and techniques. The material costs go down but the rnd budgets swell more and more.
@BLACKTR00PER
@BLACKTR00PER 5 жыл бұрын
u can‘t say the production costs go down. I work at Infineon, one the biggest semiconductor company. In our Production halls there are maschines which cost over 1 million usd/euro. And u have to sell them und buy new ones every 24 months.. Just look at the Money that Siemens earns and thennat the money which Infineon earns. There are huge differents cause Infineon has a lot of production costs in there maschines
@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69
@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69 5 жыл бұрын
Hey stupid ever heard of AMD?
@jhinthevirtuoso4886
@jhinthevirtuoso4886 5 жыл бұрын
perfect example of a dumb human being
@yurib4560
@yurib4560 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, could you detail the process by which moores law "doubles the number of transistors every 18 months." How exactly does that happen in a laboratory, and they figure out how to pack more transistors in?
@kiyoshimatsutsuyu1931
@kiyoshimatsutsuyu1931 6 жыл бұрын
The not as obvious trend = past silicon, nothing is affordable in the consumer market. Which means that, if we can't improve battery technology very soon, Moore's law for consumer computing basically comes to a standstill. Great video. What do you do for a living and do you think technology or need for computing power will out pace the other?
@gl7011
@gl7011 6 жыл бұрын
You talk so fast, It seems like a computer simulated voice over. Humanize the information more. Like what's the ultimate goal here? Why the need to go to plank size? Give a useful example of something that could be made at plank size that currently can't be made at 7 nanometers. Why are 5 nanometers a useful goal? How will things change when that breakthrough is achieved?
@alexking1129
@alexking1129 6 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? He it will let you fit more transistors in a chip, making it more efficient, generate less heat, etc.
@gl7011
@gl7011 6 жыл бұрын
alt f4 I understand that, but why isn't the current standard good enough? Again, give an example of something they want to build that they are unable to build currently. Or is it just about speed? Why is 7 nanometers too slow for a new application.
@qtrg5794
@qtrg5794 5 жыл бұрын
@@gl7011 i know this is a late reply but here goes: think 50 years back. you couldve asked that same question, and no one would have been able to tell you that we need more powerful processors to run fluid dynamics simulations, finite element calculations for engineering, and the amazing CG effects we can see in cinemas today; simply because they couldnt even imagine it. even if just one step forward doesnt immediately bring about huge changes to daily life, looking back after a few decades shows just how far weve come by taking one step at a time.
@sentry9834
@sentry9834 5 жыл бұрын
@@qtrg5794 Thanks for that, I'm much more informed now than I was just 6 months ago when I posted that question. Since then more and more information about the dawn of artificial intelligence and it's potential impact on life as we know it has been written. I'm sure the area if AI will greatly benefit from these New breakthroughs. Computers will be able to perform in ways that mimic if not surpass the human brain. We live in very interesting times.
@735Secure
@735Secure 6 жыл бұрын
Slow down! You're going too fast even people with multiple EE and CE degrees. If your intention is to educate and inform slow down. If your intention is to sound cool, then just show some pretty videos and speak fast!
@metacube9913
@metacube9913 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a random 17 yo dude, and I still understand what he's saying, I don't really see where's your problem.
@LukusMaxamus
@LukusMaxamus 6 жыл бұрын
Meta Cube i think he's trying to complain about an obvious flaw with the video, while attempting to passively flex lol
@TelmoMachadoSistemas
@TelmoMachadoSistemas 5 жыл бұрын
Where can you get the engineering plant of the old micro chip? that is available to anyone who wants to learn how to make a micro chip? is there any company that has already made the plant available?
@sandeepsrikonda7352
@sandeepsrikonda7352 6 жыл бұрын
can you talk about the other possible architectures to shrink from 1nm and how it can be taken to Planck scale...?
@michaelwhittaker44
@michaelwhittaker44 6 жыл бұрын
What about the types of chips we could use to make this better ie. Bio chips.
@OptimisticFuturology
@OptimisticFuturology 6 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for upcoming videos discussing classical computing alternatives :) Thanks for watching!
@saskiavanhoutert3190
@saskiavanhoutert3190 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this informative video, chips can be possible made out of recycled plastic perhaps in the future, just a thought, kind regards.
@strangelyerect3047
@strangelyerect3047 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, this video is awesome!
@LedNe0nDevil
@LedNe0nDevil 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to understand what is the difference between applying a driving voltage of 6v 7v 8v 9v or 10v to a mosfet. Is a lower v more efficient/deficient ... what should I choose? What are the implications? I would love to understand because I have the possibility of adjusting it on my MB. But I just have it on Auto because I don't understand it, even after looking through all google backlog.
@MrDannidy
@MrDannidy 5 жыл бұрын
WOW what an upload expansive knowledge-base a with a sound track.
@rocket6173
@rocket6173 5 жыл бұрын
Here’s a quick thought. Just know I haven’t thought about any of this and as I write this I’m thinking “actually this is a shit idea because x y and z but what if we were to switch to analog in terms of input and here’s what I mean: a neurone works by these little gates for the cell for sodium and they open as a (even more) positive charge comes through like a chain reaction once one opens it triggers the opening of the sodium channel next to it. How it triggers the opening is simple, an impulse raises the charge of the local area past a threshold which indices the gate open to let sodium in (sodium raises the charge). In computers this could mean that the electrons could leak and as long as there is only a small current an output would only be 0 until the gate is opened and even more electrons would pass through and therefore the current would increase and therefore would be detected as a 1. I’m sorry if this is poorly explained and after reading this I’m thinking well how would it know sort of thing but I’m assuming this train of thought is where sci-fi (but plausible) biomechanical cyborg brains are made.
@blackgenesisishere
@blackgenesisishere 6 жыл бұрын
great video, I hope to see where technology is by 2050, should be epic :)
@simeongeorgiev1107
@simeongeorgiev1107 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, may I ask for the source of info used in the vid. As a student in computer systems and technologyies I am really curios to read it myself! Awesome vid.
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