THE ENGINE IS BROKE...NOW WHAT?? (My porsche 912 plan)

Since the engine needs a rebuild, it's time to make a plan. In this video I go over more information on the engine itself. Different options I'm considering to move forward with the motor.
I got a copy of the kardex to check and see if this is a numbers matching car. Be sure to watch the entire video to get some key details and possibly learn a little more about the brand.
There is always some kind of blindside, or twenty blindsides when restoring a classic car. I'm all smiles that I'm in a position to do this. I don't take it for granted.
Since I have a porsche 911, I'm not concerned making this car very fast. Originality is the number one goal.
As always, thank you for watching and the continued support.

[@carstenrubner520]

Having a family is timeconsuming😌. It will be worth the money, if you get help to rebuild the motor...! Happy journey.

[@jbaet]

Brother, rust free mostly original matching numbers 912... I would be absolutely in love with it, even with the "small" engine setback!😂

[@michaelgideon6422]

👊🏻 “small” in size, big in pain haha

[@scottshand8559]

First of all a big congratulations to you and Mrs. Gideon on the pending arrival of your child!!! That news certainly makes everything else pale in comparison! But also good news on the cardex! I also like your plan leaning towards another "donor" motor while taking your time working on the original motor. Having the paint, motor and transmission original could be very valuable some day down the road. If it matters your broken 912 motor sounds at the 3:30 time mark made the entire video worth watching! Peace to you and yours, congrats again to your family!

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thanks Scott! You're comments are always great and appreciated. Donor motor would really be awesome, we'll see what happens. Same to you and yours sir

[@ChrisPorsche]

I would reach out to Tom at Garage Time he rebuilt an awesome 912 engine thats due to be replaced with a 3.2. Could be an great collab! Great job BTW.

[@michaelgideon6422]

I like his channel. Never know, that could happen. Thanks for watching Chris!

[@verdict1163]

You found such a great example. Laser straight body from a dry climate and all numbers matching powertrain. All the important stuff is there, doesn't get much better than that on a near 60 year old car.

[@michaelgideon6422]

This car really is pretty incredible. I’m still shocked at how straight and dry it is. I’ve wanted to do a quick clip show every gap on the car just because they are all perfect. Thanks for watching!

[@josephhunt2478]

Nice car I never thought much about the 912 I have two 914 2.0 cars

[@where-we-roam]

Glad to hear you got back confirmation on everything regarding numbers matching, color, etc. Sometimes that makes it worth going the extra mile knowing that you have something that original.

[@michaelgideon6422]

Yea! thanks man, that was some great news which helped moral haha

[@nickpilgrim1966]

Very cool it's an original engine and colour. Makes the journey worth it. Keep going mate. Time is an illusion.

[@michaelgideon6422]

It was great to get that info after learning this engine was a non runner. thanks Nick!

[@PaulSchofield-p6b]

Hi Michael, I have a 912 Right Hand Drive car in the UK. 1968 same colour as yours, which I purchased when I was 25. I'm now 58 and have to say, "I would never part with it and it's going with me to the grave". My daughter thinks otherwise as we named her "Jessica Porsche", I'm probably to blame for this. The wife did not say "No" at the time, so I got away with it ! If nothing else the car will stay in the family. These early 912's are definitely more than the sum of the parts, but the drive ability when lowered for this year of car is amazing. I have never checked my numbers, one day I will find the time. Thank you for sharing how you managed to find your detail.

[@michaelgideon6422]

One of the best comments I’ve gotten. This is great. 🙏

[@rgupta250]

Love following your build, Mike. -Ravi

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thanks Ravi! Appreciate it my friend

[@heljestrand]

Give John Benton at Benton Performance in Anaheim a call. He’s the Godfather of 912’s.

[@michaelgideon6422]

I'm going to need a few more stimulus checks to be associated with Benton in any way

[@jameseli5782]

Lots of good news in this episode - Congrats. Looking forward to seeing it out on the twisties.

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thank you James! Cannot wait for that

[@user-sx9uq3hc9d]

Enjoying the hell out of this series . I’m considering buying a tangerine ‘68 912 so it’s great to watch you work on yours ! Keep up the good work and enjoyable vids !!!

[@michaelgideon6422]

Right on! Thanks and best of luck man :)

[@jimmccarthy6015]

Your passion for these cars is evident in what and how you present. Love the content !

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thanks Jim! Thats cool to hear. Hopefully I can work on these and be around them a long time. Cheers and appreciate the support

[@Buttys_bits_ltd]

I know and feel your pain , my 912 lump is away being rebuilt . Alot of issues . Enjoyed watching you build it up , will be worth it in the long run . I've done pretty much the same as you , stripped and rebuilt it , plus I now make about 120 products I sell for them now . Keep it up ......

[@michaelgideon6422]

I'm calling this engine a Lump from now on. That's awesome. We'll be happy driving these things..at some point. Cheers!

[@charleseckberg1947]

keep em coming!! Enjoying the journey.

[@michaelgideon6422]

Right on! Thank you and will do

[@SuperCarreraSTL]

Another option is to find a Volkswagen Type 4 Engine to drive the car while you rebuild the 616. That is probably cheaper and easier to hot rod. Even when you're done with the original engine, it might be smart to keep it on a shelf while you enjoy the car without adding miles to the original engine. Thanks for the great videos.

[@michaelgideon6422]

I’ve considered that a couple times. I’m sure the main thing would be to make a custom bracket to mount it.

[@philipvarghese2887]

Really excited watching ur videos

[@michaelgideon6422]

That’s awesome thanks for saying that

[@gjvgc9853]

Super cool! Keep it up. Stoked to see a video on the triumph too.

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thank you! I've been looking forward to a triumph video for a while! Should be fun, thanks for watching!

[@gjvgc9853]

@@michaelgideon6422 going through the same as you with an original survivor 68 912 I picked up and triumphs haha.

[@michaelgideon6422]

@@gjvgc9853 no way haha. You’ve got great taste if I do say so lol.

[@scottmcclintock3942]

Great story, I have a ‘67 tangerine 911 targa. I would like to get a cardex. These cars take time to sort out and restore. It is easier if you rob a bank first lol. Keep going brother original rocks!!

[@michaelgideon6422]

Nice car! Robbing a bank will fast track your restoration time, most certainly

[@jennygideon3300]

I love all of your videos … great content, interesting and entertaining!!

[@carlosfcolon]

Awesome

[@alangonzalez1061]

keep it up MICHAEL.

[@michaelgideon6422]

will do! Thanks Alan!

[@jeffwarford4548]

Enjoying the content! Keep it going!

[@michaelgideon6422]

Glad to hear it! Thanks Jeff!

[@makrja]

Following! Keep going!

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thanks for following! Sure will :)

[@kentlewis5488]

Now I am all fired up to get the cardex (sp?) for my ‘68 912. I’m pretty sure everything matches because I have owned it since ‘70. I just looked you up on the 912 Register forum. Great, in depth stuff on your rebuild. GOOD LUCK.

[@michaelgideon6422]

Tip of the cap to you sir. Owner since ‘70 = badass

[@richardsponholz9617]

Michael : Sensitive topic that I think would be of great interest to your subscribers: would you consider at some point discussing costs? including an estimate for your labor? You mentioned in this video 1000 man-hrs expended so far. Given you are an excellent mechanic but not a professional let's just say $80-$120 an hour for that plus parts cost to date + acquisition cost + motor rebuild cost + and an estimate to complete. Uhhhh.... it seems to me that number is heading towards $175 K. Can this be so ?

[@michaelgideon6422]

I've thought about sharing costs. For now I'm not going to, but I may do that in the future. Thanks for the kind words. Professionals are going to be somewhere around $150 an hour on these cars. I think you're pretty close on labor, since I'm not a pro. I haven't added up the cost of parts just yet. I have a rough idea on the cost to rebuild the engine if I send it out. The total is not quite as high as that number, but its very high. Nothing about these cars is cheap. That's just the reality. With my time included, I'm significantly under water haha. I'm not selling so it doesn't bother me..that much. Thanks for watching Richard.

[@johnrpizzaguy]

I agree with you covering your serial numbers, along with my love of 911s I also love vintage analog synthesizers (mostly Moog) they are currently fetching high $ , long story short my name, residing state and a list of all the Moogs that I own are on line ( Not Cool ). Just another great reason for privacy and another great video Michael, keep them coming and congratulations to you and your wife, I have 2 adult children one is a Kindergarten teacher and my daughter is a lighting designer for concerts. Take care and I’m still looking for a 2009/2010 997.2 coupe, I know it’s out there somewhere.

[@michaelgideon6422]

Everything is online now and I really dont know enough about what info is dangerous to have out there. I need some synth sounds on my videos :) Thanks for the continued support, John. When you get the 997, I want to hear about it

[@johnrpizzaguy]

@@michaelgideon6422 you will be able to here me screen like a teenage girl ( all the way from San Luis Obispo) when I find my Porsche. Thank you !!!!

[@deanallen191]

Good luck with your motor options!

[@michaelgideon6422]

Thanks Dean! Something will work out

[@Jimjesser]

Cool

[@Hulley29]

Hey Michael, congrats on the incoming addition to the family! What about a VW motor as a temporary replacement, for some reason I seem to remember that some 356 guys would use VW motors to preserve or rebuild their Porsche motor, I would think they could be had for a lot less money and easy to resell in SoCal. I'm not as familiar with the different types but heard that some area direct bolt up.

[@michaelgideon6422]

That could be an option too. I really haven't looked into it. I won't lie..I hate the idea of a non porsche engine in this car..but, it could be awesome haha. Some of those engines can make big HP too I should check

[@capoislamort1613]

Rebuild the motor yourself brother. Put the money for the used motor in a college fund. Besides you've got other toys to channel the stress. Cheers!🎩👊🏿🥂

[@michaelgideon6422]

Wise advice right there

[@capoislamort1613]

@@michaelgideon6422 The savings and accomplishments will be well worth it. You Got This!!!🥂🎩

[@steverush8362]

M, I ran a 36hp vs for 6 months in my 68 while I built 356...cost 80 bucks lol..gave it away to 58 bug guy...

[@michaelgideon6422]

How long did it take you to build your motor?

[@steverush8362]

@@michaelgideon6422 . A 356 you order, clean, order more and that's 20% time you don't control. Next is polish and balance and 20% no control...unless You are the one doing balance....So it goes, about 5 months part time. The heads are power...don't hog, just fit Clean as possible. NEVER IDLE BREAK IN then heater boxes and muffler and carb detailing. Me or you we learn and save lots $...or a month plus and write a big check to a shop.

[@DEEZEEMTB]

Drop a 6 banger in there and call it a day.

[@michaelgideon6422]

It’s too late now

[@Vivianauxito]

Hi, Michael.Here's Vivian, A rep from AUXITO. Are you open to the idea doing a review video for our product, I think it is a good opportunity to get our products in front of your qualitied viewers. I could send the product for free if it sounds like a plan.

[@michaelgideon6422]

No thanks

[@steverush8362]

VW...not vs ;-)