The Enneagram: The Discernment Of Spirits (Introduction)

Spoken and Written by Richard Rohr. All credit, respect, and my thanks goes to him and his team
Disclaimer: I didn't make this nor do I inherently agree with everything spoken. (Additional Disclaimer in comment section)
This series is made years ago back when DVD's were a thing and so I've spent weeks trying to hunt down the video files until I found them on Vimeo.

[@racheladkins6060]

As a 50 year old Christian, I’ve been told in a word of knowledge I’ll be “healed in the tears” as I feel broken. I think that’s where life grows, brokenness. Think broken grunge gen Xer .

[@oonaghmolyneux7760]

For me, Richard Rohr is the best teacher of the enneagram. He brings each type to life and gets straight to the point with both humour and compassion. Richard also types many famous people differently (eg Marilyn Monroe as a 4 not a 6) and why. I highly recommend his books and videos.

[@mHuskyyy]

This has opened my eyes,truly I even feel a sense of freedom,like I’ve let go an enormous weight,truly amazing how one video changed my perspective,tbh my whole life

[@DryNox]

15:00 make evil show itself 30:00 rich famous good looking 45:00 dualism 52:00 heart head gut space 1:00:00 risk losing the familiar but unhappy self. Anger works 1:15:00 find another ground on which to stand 1:22:00 living a life not your own 1:30:00 conflicting pure obvious 1:45:00 trapped in now. Head people trapped in present

[@juserbop2000]

Thank you for the time and space edits. You've spoken to my push button mind!

[@scrapingrama1]

Don’t forget that we can make the devil work for God. And it wasn’t developed by the ancients either guess he didn’t read Wikipedia

[@scrapingrama1]

Teenagers don’t know sin yet and he even said sin had no redemption in case you missed it

[@ANGEL-eh6pd]

Thanks

[@PHOTOLOIART]

'You are healed by the same thing that wounded you' . Brilliant work, thank you so much sir!

[@jask4968]

Trauma

[@duartepereira7255]

Outstanding presentation. Simply brilliant. There's PhD material every 10mins. Thank you for the share ;)

[@karenaiken8758]

Always feel I’ve heard brilliance when I hear you talk but accompanied with the love of a true humanitarian.

[@sunnc]

17:30 learning to recognize energies 20:00 you’re one number. Become conscious & do the best you can. 20:50 laugh at it so you can be free. Be fine w your number 22:13 education isn’t an advantage in spirituality 23:13 spiritual over psychological 28:42 too much of a good thing is a bad thing. You play by your strengths in your teens. You overidentify w what you’re good at. 30:00 you’ll eventually experience a failure n have to become conscious 31:07 nobody is good. We all do things for selfish reasons 32:09 first the fall, then the recovery of the fall 35:53 too much concern w self development 38:45 the stone you refused is the cornerstone 44:44 a sinner is one who doesn’t love themselves enough 46:20 your preferred style of perception 50:08 ppl admire u for it why change? 51:36 why there’s 9 55:34 heart; pseudo feelings 59:41 loving our own unhappiness 1:01:59 true self, false self 1:09:02 false self is talkative 1:11:00 don’t kill false self; 3 steps 1:24:26 pure compulsion (3, 6 & 9) they are the most masked from themselves 1:26:32 3 different dances (wings) 1:26:42 obvious compulsion (2, 5 & 8) 1:27:16 conflicted compulsion (4, 7 & 1) 1:33:21 God doesn’t want you to sin bc it makes you dislike yourself & hard for others to see God in you 1:36:50 discernment 1:39:20 you can’t deny your basic personality 1:42:06 ppl often marry the # next to them 1:45:08 heart ppl 1:46:53 how gut ppl resist 1:47:57 how heart ppl resist 1:49:17 how head ppl resist 1:56:09 Four

[@harryschultz6951]

Thanks for annotating this - really helpful 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@thinkfirstt]

No casual listen here. I'll just stop now and come back later with a notebook and pen. Great little treasures

[@antoinettemarie9668]

Saw your reply and didn’t even hesitate. Notebook is in hand. Thank you for the heads up.

[@jasminegarstang8627]

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[@sheilajoseph5494]

You are so right about that. I tried passive, background listening for about 5 mins. I’ll be back with a notebook and pencil when I have time to fully focus on this. But so far, this sounds like it should be required work in kindergarten... a heads up about the terrain ahead ☺️

[@lrkpr]

'the symbol controls the endless floating feeling' (says the 4) ... It's crazy to suddenly understand yourself! Thank you!

[@architektura204]

any time I lose my equilibrium, I return to read and listen to Richard.

[@lesliecardwell2653]

Me too!

[@thefirsthero5266]

This has, and is continuing to change my life, and I am eternally thankful

[@Loenthall88]

I discovered Father Rohr 30 years ago ago. One of the great teachers out there. He certainly impacted my spiritual life. Always rich, always insightful. And I was introduced to the Enneagram through his teaching. Thank you for posting this and the follow-up sessions.

[@izhakshamil1887]

The wound or the miserable situation that we encounter is the healing Itself. The sacrament of the Present Moment. Thanks so much Richard

[@TheChicktube]

Just yesterday I bought all three chapters of Lord of The Rings to pass this time of coronavirus.....such a "5" move.

[@jxmah4112]

hope u enjoy!!!!

[@haark655]

“Nerding out” ❤️😂

[@surgeeo1406]

Funny thing, I bought The Hobbit and the trilogy in 9/11/2001, not because of what was happening that day, just because I decided to watch the movies as an informed reader for a change. So I was sitting down at a coffee shop, reading this, and I looked up at the tv and saw the twin towers on fire and I thought "Wow, cool cgi." I read a bit more, and then I looked up and the Pentagon was on fire, and I was like "Is this some new action movie... Oh wait, IT'S THE NEWS!" The books ended up being my hiding place for 40 days... So my memories are really weird on that time frame.

[@deepsupport11]

Thank you for posting this. Still relevant and of course brilliant

[@HxH2011DRA]

Ya welcome

[@izhakshamil1887]

Its a tremendous revelation of seeing your own bullshit and not judging. Every situation that comes to us is an opportunity to connect to the True Self. We have to stand back and disengage. Richard is a tremendous boost to spirituality whether yourChristian, Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu trapped in a religion that feeds into your pseudo self. Real Christianity or Islam etc is liberation from entrapment with a mind-based ideology rather than addressing Reality as is. Its a matter of seeing our own blindness and moving towards Truth. I would be so blessed to meet such an illuminated man like Richard.

[@aimatexcellence3828]

I'm around 1 hour 35 right now. And while this whole talk has been interesting, this section is really hitting me like and Epiphany. This talk of sin has blinding you to how God sees you and blinding others to the reflection of God through you is remarkable. I personally have never been comfortable with the notion of sin as my innate evilness. And so re-categorizations such as this are very helpful in developing a model of sin that I can use. As opposed to a model of sin that I simply rail against. I hope the others of you watching this are finding similarly insightful moments! Thank you for sharing this.

[@DiscoverJesus]

I hear you, but in the final analysis your comfort levels are not really the barometer for Bible truth. Sin is super destructive to our thinking and being, it ruins first our relationship with God. I agree we can then have a distorted view of ourselves and God but we can't omit what's so clear in Scripture either.

[@josephzammit8483]

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[@früherwarsbesser2564]

Just wow! There's tons of wisdom in this gem of a talk.

[@shirleywestbury3175]

Thanks 🤩 and blessings for all the prayers

[@janethomas9947]

So very good to be able to listen here to this excellent and so helpful explanation of the Enneagram by Fr Richard Rohr.

[@makaylahollywood3677]

Gosh, this is the type of lecture i can really appreciate and actually use. Thank you, sincerely. I am so excited to have found this. Something I have such a desire to understand.

[@jillphilips3788]

“ What Words of Our Almighty Lord Savior Beloved Blessed Christ Are you “ Sharing “ “ He Said Man Looks outward “ He Looks Looks Inward “. Our Hearts Motives Truths Discernment’s “ All The Facts And All The New Facts For His Truths Discernment’s “ He Said “ My People Fail me For the Lack Of “ Knowledge “

[@rulistening7777]

@@jillphilips3788 But what defines knowledge ? What does God say about knowledge? Where is it found? Go to the source.

[@kathleenflanagan9141]

Enneagram

[@happysinger23]

Wow!!!!! Wisdom is hiding in the sea of information and I’m glad I’m here for this lecture

[@dreaminderek9365]

Frank James recommended this so? Gotta stan FJ and his idols

[@moosechuckle]

Dreamin' Derek that’s why I’m here. It’s definitely not the weird anime breakdowns this KZbinr has.

[@susannad4463]

That's why I'm here too. And tbh, I've received so much clarity.

[@limgary]

Moose Chuckle pls ppp

[@e.l.2734]

I didn't know that, but I like FJ more now because of it.

[@nourzidi3325]

+1

[@alexismiller8978]

Best talk I ever heard it's as if my soul is speaking to me through this man's voice a gift it is to realize the false self is not only false deconstruct your sense of unity with the world. Namaste

[@kragghlfx2000]

I am a recovering alcoholic.We have alcoholics in my group ranging from 1 to 9.I`m glad we have the 12 steps. alcohol doesn't distinguish between types.and they're the same 12 steps for each type.

[@davidleckrone90]

Our paradigms control our lives. Where and who created them for us? Why? We CAN identify and RESCRIPT our paradigms! David Leckrone Appomattox, VA

[@davidmarilley6060]

They're all different colored addictions

[@ThoughtProvokingVlogs]

Just wanted to give a heads up to everyone about typing yourself. In this video Richard says that if you don't know your type at the end you are either a 6 or a 9. That wasn't the case for me. At first I typed as a 6. Later realized only bits of that described me. Then with suggestions of others I tried 4. That didn't work because I was too bitter and cynical towards others, so then I tried 8. I am a lot like an 8 cynical, bitter, defensive, but alas, I am not an 8. I am just a really unhealthy 2 that looks like an 8 on the outside but I have the core fear of a 2. I just couldn't admit it until I was put into a situation that shone a light on my 2ness. I cried for a long time after I found out I was a 2. I am pretty convinced. So just keep in mind you may mistype a few times so don't quickly attach onto one type as it may be a bodyguard for your real core type. For 2s when they are unhealthy or stress they basically become 8s. Each type has a type that they mimic when they are healthy and unhealthy. Please keep that in mind

[@ThoughtProvokingVlogs]

@Ingrid Johansson I am not good at reading myself and others. For people like me who have trouble understanding people and their motives this is a useful tool

[@rulistening7777]

Maybe you are just a Leo... Or a Scorpion ?

[@ThoughtProvokingVlogs]

@@rulistening7777 Cancer-Leo. Though I don't know enough about astrology to know how accurate it is

[@ThoughtProvokingVlogs]

@@rulistening7777 I will add that, just because something is complex and confusing doesn't make it false. I find calculus to be hard to understand and I would probably make a lot of mistakes when first trying to do calculus problems, but that doesn't make calculus a psuedo-math necessarily

[@lietaconyers3836]

Thanks

[@janoskaism]

OMGF. This amazing man just changed my life. THANK YOU !

[@TMPreRaff]

Spoken like a true clueless christian. OMGF!!

[@xXTumblinXx]

He says that therapy or words won't get you closer to the truth and may even reinforce your story of "poor me" or of "me". That's sometimes true; words may come from conditioning, defenses and compulsion, but some words come out of that silence; from depth and insight and can sometimes facilitate witnessing, helping you to embrace all your thoughts and emotions vs polarizing/resisting. Sometimes God uses us/others to say the right words at the right time to the right person to pierce their defenses and reach our/ their heart.

[@davidmarilley6060]

Big theme in THE CONFESSIONS.

[@mortalclown3812]

Thank you from the heart for taking the time to write this exact thing. 🙋🎇

[@willroach8443]

If words don't help then why does he keep talking?

[@Ivyboma]

'Evil will always look like good'. This is very true. Speaking as one who has had a firsthand direct and painful experience of the damage that disguised evil is capable of, discrimination of spirits can be a life saver.

[@biblebadcopycatofcuneiform8210]

You might like to know that evil, at least the human understanding of it, is an education for the mind. What I mean is, most people when they're small hear their parents talking about "evil" and other Christian non-sense. If you're not raised in it, there aren't many or any Christians around you before your teens...you won't have any real indoctrination about it...thus evil won't exist. Evil is taught in Churches and Sunday School. Once you have Evil educated in your mind it can be challenging to let go of. Many do. I did. When you free yourself of that kind of education, you feel much better...and you don't see it around you much. You will realize it's a creation for the mind...nothing more. I've been around and experienced many things. Priests, Evangelicals, are the most "evil" people on the planet...per se, because of what they pass along. The first use of "Evil" was used by the Anunnaki, the modifiers of humanity. Before humans existed on this planet, by way of them, the Anunnaki used Evil to mean something "really bad" or "really powerful" like a massive bomb destruction. It was never used as "Demonic" or "Satanic" because humans invented "Satan". Think about that. It's very profound. When humans let go of "Evil"..they'll see the world and Life Energy as it truly is. I did, and I do. Here's a helpful tip... Check the movie "Vantage Point" including the extras. An extremely well made movie about perspectives and how to understand them MUCH better.

[@rulistening7777]

ALWAYS is just a silly thing to say. We know that evil very often is smelly right out of the gate. Evil....being that which is the adverse of love.

[@rulistening7777]

@@biblebadcopycatofcuneiform8210 Evil is just a dicriptive. Satan is not a being. Not some fallen light bearer....angel. The word is ha' satan. It is a descriptive word. Describing adversarial behavior. Adversarial to Love. Anybody can be ha' satan at any time.

[@biblebadcopycatofcuneiform8210]

@@rulistening7777 "Evil is just a dicriptive. Satan is not a being." - I am very well aware of what "Evil" is...it was first used by Enki that we have documented evidence of in Cuneiform tablets. Evil just means something really horrible. Enki was watching is an extremely powerful "bomb" was doing its thing..and he remarked about the "Evil Wind". Otherwise evil does not exist. "Not some fallen light bearer....angel." - I've known since I was age 1 and before born that Christianity and Catholic ways are in big errors. There aren't any angles, there aren't any demons. There sure aren't any massiahs' or saviors other than people and other Beings helping one another or ourselves. As for the Bible, I think the character Lucifer (Enki renamed) is pretty cool vs the "God" with respect to Garden of Eden, the very short version in the Bible...he (Enlil) wanted to keep humans stupid. "The word is ha' satan. It is a descriptive word. Describing adversarial behavior. Adversarial to Love." - Satan, the word, has taken on many forms and pronunciations. When you get right to it..it's ALL human-made junk..and story telling to scare people through superstitions. There was a lot writing about the Anunnaki and other stuff as the Elohim. "Anybody can be ha' satan at any time." - We all have positive and negative within us. Depends how we choose to use it, and if we choose to. Which is why there is not any kind of final judgement, especially not the junk that Christians and Catholics "believe" in. Did Enki leave some guidelines of us to follow being leaving the planet? Yes! Will a person who has done "mean" things to another be Punished into a "Hell" or someone who has some wonderful things go to "Heaven"?? NO! But the experiences are added to the Eternal Soul. I adore Cuneiform because it pre-dates all human-made religions. Organized cult religions, such as Christianity, don't help anyone. They are the cause of great suffering and telling people to reject their own empowerment for someone else. That's Ha'Satan to me. Hehehehe. So, those are 'Satanic" religions, per se.

[@detodounpoco37]

48:50 This man is such a powerful voice. God is Everything.

[@golgarisoul]

I don't know if I'm gonna make a bunch of posts while going through this, but his comment around the 8 or 9 about Americans not liking subtlety is true. But I also think that any society large enough will average out to not care about subtly. It's easier to run a tribe when there is a baseline understanding, with a focusing on tangibles like wealth, land, blood, family, etc. This video series isn't probably about society as much as I feel it might be, but after listening to The Golden Bough, it's hard to separate religions from the the systems that humans live in.

[@cherryboywriter6299]

Me and my friend generally agree that the only real way to change a culture is through material means. Cultural warfare doesn't really work well when the majority of people have their minimal amount of needs met (which isn't much). When he gets to the 3 he breaks down that achievers seek efficiency and want to cut to the chase. I feel the strongest proof of Americans not liking subtly would be the general glossing over of any art trying to make a difference but This Is America left a cultural impact for exposing them.

[@Hyumanity]

This is incredible. Thank you so much!

[@tamararainbowtarabarhar304]

thank you so much for posting this series! very fun and easy to listen to and incredibly informative. Bless you

[@erichbrough6097]

'If you don't recognize the subtle character of evil, you will be overcome by it' - HEL-lo: as in, 'evil' (whatever breaks or violates Love's pattern) isn't just 'what Hitler and Stalin did' or 'what a rapist or terrorist does', but anything that takes me in a disconnected, unloving direction (which can be _so_ hard to figure out or rather _discern_ ). Oh, and 7:55 - thank you, thank you, *thank* you! Exactly so!

[@Multi-angels]

'If you don't.. (!!!)... you will.... (!!!!).

[@gittekjaerulff9511]

THANK YOU for sharing this. You don't have to "be" a Christian, just listen to an enlightened spiritual master like Richard Rohr long enough and you will live at a whole new level. And eventually the awakened Christ consciousness within you will show you the truth.

[@Link-ny9xz]

I feel like he just handed me the cliff notes to my own life..

[@silviamongeroffarello126]

I just love how deep and logic the whole speech is

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[@ljh2460]

Same👏🏽👏🏽

[@rheadsouza3011]

Ok

[@Ellie49]

Thanks so much for posting this! I attended a conference given by Fr. Rohr some years ago on this subjext. That was a wonderful privilege.

[@maliajyang7589]

No.... Twos... Within the matured and blossomed conteplative minds..... Arrive not to the goal 🥅 of serving others for their own ego... But rather because a twos greatest adventure is teaching others to love... Love itself... To be lovers themselves... And as lovers to teach others thereafter to be lovers and there forward.... I love Richard Rohr... Not necessarily because he teaches "new" ideas... But because he is an effective communicator of profound truths..... I feel blessed because i have already discovered these truths by counsel of the Holy Spirit in my own redemption walk... He says at the end of this video.... We should not like ourselves.. In the matter of context... But not true for me.... I feel blessed because I have already been in this tug-of-war of discovery.. Questioning... Revelation... Freedom and redemption since i was 15 years old... I'm now 42....it's been the wildest ride that has many times made me look and feel crazy... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.... But it's not crazy at all.... Now that I am in the latter chapters of blossoming.... I just found out about Richard Rohr.... And although there is not much new info he shares... I will keep listening in hopes for new revelation.... Plus i like listening to what my thoughts actually sound like.... Gathered... Grouped.. Polished... Elaborated.... And communicted clearly.... 😂.... Literally i sound just like him... And usually people are like... Whaaaa.... Whooo.... Whaaa... 😕😕😕😕😕

[@joshuaoneill9061]

I like how the more wise a person you take from a religion, the more they sound like wise people of another religion.

[@aresmars2003]

It seems like the SECRET most people fall for to have a "Happy life" is to not try to integrate your contradictions, and maybe the happiest person has 7 perfectly good (maybe 9?) false-selves who can function in their own delegated domains and never question why they can't work better together when there's conflicts. Or at least that number would make it easier when one false-self fails, to redirect to the other ones until you can sort things out to a new equilibrium. But the "true self" would seem to have to require more self-awareness (non-judgemental as Richard says). And maybe under crisis, we force ourselves to see more, and when things calm down, we go back to the false-selves in habit.

[@loberleitner1]

True wisdom . When the student is ready the teacher appears.

[@sidneydavis8899]

When neither are ready, they both will be at that peaceful extension

[@lifeinthekeyofkindness9304]

What's helpful, what's not? To me, saying people today (seeking spectacle, dismissing subtlety) have no ability to discern spirits is not helpful. Referring to this as an inability suggests something innate. Perhaps it is an ability hidden/lost/overlooked due to inattention, ignorance, and indifference. We lack awareness, tools, and training. The Enneagram will be helpful. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. As a kindness advocate, I believe we can cultivate kindness and create a culture of kindness. We can choose kindness, mindful kindness. The Enneagram will help ensure a mindful, contemplative approach to spiritual and social transformation. Coupled with a.desire to embrace, embody, and express God's lovingkindness, our human capacity to love has great potential.Namaste.

[@nancybrennan6371]

Any negative comment on this chain is sent here by God just the same as any other comment. It's easy to praise what we want to see and condemn what we don't want to see. This is exactly what he is talking about here. Getting out of this egocentric point of view will set us free!!!!!!!

[@mortalclown3812]

If this was written before our current president, I'd nod in sage agreement. Now I'm just - in general, not to you - doing Charlton Heston impression on the beach at end of "Planet of the Apes", shaking my fist at the sky: "GOD DAAMMMNNN YOUUUU!" (Deep Elvis bow and leaving.)

[@TMPreRaff]

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[@EricFoemmel]

I am a seven, but wow i used to be one. Usually the first to show up at a party and the last to leave. Wish i could find the portion where Fr. Richard discusses 7s

[@SuperLeorich]

In 2000 the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Committee on Doctrine prepared a draft statement entitled “A Brief Report on the Origins of the Enneagram”. The report identified areas of concern and stated: “While the enneagram system shares little with traditional Christian doctrine or spirituality, it also shares little with the methods and criteria of modern science.” AJesus Christ book coverIng 2003 the Vatican document “Jesus Christ, Bearer of the Water of Life”, which dealt with the dangers of New Age practices, said that gnosticism “has always existed side by side with Christianity … more often assuming the characteristics of a religion or a para-religion in distinct, if not declared, conflict with all that is essentially Christian. An example of this can be seen in the enneagram, the nine-type tool for character analysis, which when used as a means of spiritual growth introduces an ambiguity in the doctrine and the life of the Christian faith” (1.4).

[@eleanor3482]

Thank you so much for posting this series 🙏🏻👎🏻

[@ibiondo]

It still surprises me the fact that all enneagram teachers omit the origin of the symbol itself directly to Gurdjieff. Very few make timid mentions and quickly move away from it.

[@MariaElena51185]

I agree. And Gurdjieff was not religious or commercial. He knew what a hell realm this world is. I did once find one video about Gurdjieff’s enneagram!

[@marthamagee2055]

Gurdjieff, a SUFI!

[@HxH2011DRA]

"2 3 4 don't have feelings at all! You know why? Because they have everybody else's!" Rest in Fucking Peace Soul=Zen. No god

[@apricity7688]

The more that I watch these, the less I know which one I am.

[@newcreationcoachingllc6491]

Please read your bible, you are not any of these things.

[@bjspencer3080]

@@newcreationcoachingllc6491 then why are you here watching?

[@newcreationcoachingllc6491]

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[@rescuedrey379]

@@newcreationcoachingllc6491 THANK YOU!!

[@martinwilliams9866]

The irregular enneagram originally comes from S. Karpp's French book on the Zohar & the tetragram from Blavatsky's "Isis Unveiled". Note Gurdjieff once hung up a Christmas tree upside-down.

[@owl6218]

I have to make slides for tomorrow, and I find a Fr.richard rohr lecture...I can come back and watch it tomorrow, but it is not fair...I have only seen about 10 lectures of his, far fewer than some other teachers I watch, but fr.richard rohr is so amazing.....

[@misspy1153]

This is ridiculously incredible. Hands down’, the answer to everything

[@curiousgeorge555]

I'm bran new to it. Seems to have some helpful elements as far as I can ascertain so far, although I wouldn't swallow it hook line and sinker. As for answer to everything, that would be the One who said I AM The Truth. Jesus of Nazareth who is Himself The Truth.

[@TMPreRaff]

You're right... that's ridiculous.

[@mitblue379]

This Freudian slip was so on point “we are making the world safer for terrorists.”

[@esoteric_teachings]

Way too much Truth in Mr. Rohr's words for Facebook, KZbin, or Twitter. Amazing talk!

[@YouveGotaType]

For additional detailed descriptions of the enneagram to support this brilliant wokr: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn-3mmaBm7ONi6c

[@awake2truth511]

Thank you for posting these. I'm really enjoying the study.

[@HxH2011DRA]

Welcome

[@scottschell7246]

Thanks for posting these!!

[@Sid-69]

1:11:32 "Observation creates the subject-object split". That's deep. Sounds Taoist.

[@haark655]

Sid Beautiful. Tao means the way. “I AM the way”

[@jeanpollock3206]

Brilliant! What a study in human nature! An expansion of The 4 Temperaments and I highly recommend it.

[@espositogregory]

Psychological models are by nature proscriptive, instead of being predictive as many think them to be. What every theory of the mind presented, adopters must dawn said theory’s perceptual veil when applying any given mental model. Spirited minds of Mankind are the only things in all of creation which bears witness to itself. Thus we wield our greatest capacity in our ability to change ourselves. Never forget….. ….Oh Children of God know your strength! For a Kingdom is thine to inherit, But only when Heaven has witnessed at length, That YOU are the Lord of Your Spirit.

[@jillphilips3788]

“ God Bless”

[@jayumble8390]

Yin & yang...it's all one. Why is it that we inherently know this but it always seems like such a revelation?! Finding your true self through silence (my paraphrase) ie., meditation...so beautiful and spot on!

[@LydiaBanton]

OMG! I'm older but as I start reviewing what I need to do as a 7 to transform I see I've been doing it since around age 36 when I had my crisis (the cult was intoxicating it took awhile). Glad to have the blueprint now...

[@carolgates5297]

Delightful

[@StephanieStults]

Enneagram makes me laugh at myself

[@sabinajablonska373]

Brilliant thank you for sharing

[@monicablanco3041]

Father I love what you do. I have come to know these trues through AA and the Bible and many would understand much better if you used the Bible.vAll these answers are written right there.😊

[@RC-hs1gh]

Why would a person want to integrate their sin(43:10)? I have accepted Christ, not to integrate my sin, but to "go and sin no more" as Jesus said to the adulteress woman. Am I hearing this wrong? This is the antithesis of, deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow Jesus.

[@meroo4574]

R C I could not agree more... all I hear is a lot of talking and ZERO Jesus and salvation through Jesus. New age new age new age. RUN!

[@privateuser4179]

Looks like a new agy type channel. Im 4 minutes in. Popped into the wrong video.

[@meroo4574]

Private User agree 100% Total new age BS. Jesus is in heaven saying “you idiots... I made it so simple and you insist on complicating it.”

[@privateuser4179]

@@meroo4574 well Im glad we both figure out this is new age. However dont put words into Jesus mouth He speaks Heavenly language and words wiser than our own. He made it simple for those with a heart for Him amen! Be blessed and stay in The Word in these last days!!!!

[@kimmer5370]

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us n1 John 1:8. I think he is referring to acknowledging our shortcomings and character defects so that we are no longer pretending to have no sin. We become integrated when we acknowledge the good, bad and ugly within, then Jesus is given access to change our shadow side

[@anitawbrown]

I cannot wait to learn with Fr. Rohr next week in person! This is excellent-- taking so many notes and so helpful for my upcoming book, merging east and west between faith and yoga practice.

[@flamingsword777]

You CANNOT marry the Two.... They are tee TOTALLY different constructs, ideologies and philosophies that don't mesh well together at all. Please don't muddy the Living Water with false gods and false peace.....

[@iammisskizzy]

Many Christians and different theologies are so invested in defending their turf that can't step back and see there's only one Truth. Jesus never once asks to be worshipped. But He does show us the way to the Truth; how to be better people through the process.

[@HoldFastApolpgetics]

Friends, this is a form of Gnosticism. If you are a Christian, please examine the history and designed worldview. Marcia Montenegro, Midwest Christian Outreach, as well as former enneagram teacher (taught Rohr), Mitch Pacwa have researched the enneagram and have respectfully submitted in-depth information for us.

[@bjspencer3080]

This stuff is so good!

[@joeldanei5563]

Very good! Thank you for posting.

[@christinegalarneau625]

My dad whom I respect with the high degree of justice judged me very much of my choices in life and at his birthday I made my own card saying that I love him but a life without darkness can never see the light.

[@ErikBuddhaTao]

This guy is awesome

[@opheliaelesse]

thank you for your efforts , ophie from germany!

[@JeanHounsell]

Quite true - I disguised my worst sin as noble and good.

[@mober111]

47:18 Brilliant message all around 🙏🙌

[@anitadodd]

Interesting comments about the head/fear type because of where we are now with Covid. Heart types need connection so much, and head types want us all to stay alive which seems smart but feels awful. :(

[@susampson278]

Why is the enneagram generally considered better than MBTI (Myers Briggs Type inventory) 6:04 Raymond Lull 37:48 “You are destroyed by your gift.” this is a reference to Jung's shadow self

[@MM22272]

Filled with many of his own assumptions that don't always square with facts. Has the of syncretism

[@towngirl1665]

Spiritualism, religion, and the complexity of the human mind are all inherently subjective. Not sure what you are trying to say

[@MM22272]

@@towngirl1665 Thanks for your reply. As regards my comment above, it looks rather fragmentary and so I may well have been watching this late at night and not completed my intended remark yet somehow it was saved without completing it. Regrets. In any case, in reviewing what is there, from my recollection I would say that my impression of this video is that Fr. Rohr incorporates his own assumptions not in accord with traditional Catholicism and square with observable facts. One example is that he assumes that humans always have selfish motives which is flatly untrue. It is only a possibility, but not an absolute. Other assumptions appear to be directly related to his psychological notions. Another example is when he says that God will use one's evil to bring himself to God which simply doesn't work for one who remain unrepentant. Fr. Rohr then follows by saying that all the rest of the Gospel is not Good News, because it's based upon trying to get rid of something he can get rid of. This is simply contradictory to the potential of God's grace and Catholic theology. Further to this, he adds that then one is left with self-hatred as if there's no other choice and that would be predicated upon despair, not hope and certainly not Christianity. Relative to your assertion above regarding the apprehension of various phenomena, it would appear that we may fundamentally disagree insofar as you assert that the above mentioned phenomena "are inherently subjective", whereas, while I recognise subjective views, I also accept objective truth and that it can be recognised and articulated cogently and intelligibly although not all can grasp or accept this. By and large, subjectivism and objectivism are irreconcilable which can leave some agreeing to disagree; but I always like to keep dialogue open in my arching optimism to advance mutual understanding. So, a question that you may wish to consider is the following, if "Spiritualism, religion, and the complexity of the human mind are all inherently subjective," [your remark above], is that objectively true or subjective? If it's only subjective, what value would it offer anyone who seeks to make decisions upon truth? Take care and may God bless you.

[@cachinnation448]

This is excellent teaching and a great help. Thanks for posting.

[@freyjacooper9082]

Enneagram talk starts about 18 minutes in

[@Anonymous-kj4bv]

18:00 thanks

[@hepcatliz]

Cheers!

[@kennystjohn2893]

This is so much “gobblygook” covered in an avalanche of verbiage. Who in the world buys into thIs hooey?

[@willroach8443]

@@nicolehendrix5632 not thousands of years old. Total bullshit. EI lied to you

[@rulistening7777]

@@nicolehendrix5632 We were all into the zodiac back in the 70's There will always be people like this guy, who attempt to encapsulate the human essence,and define it. Nothing New under the sun.

[@margarethayward7992]

Michael voss latest yall

[@ddellano7273]

Sounds like Charlie brown’s teacher lots of noise and makes no sense.

[@cautionhumanbeing749]

In actuality, people do not have positive views of artists. They have jealous, negative views and stereotypes, yet want to be labelled artists themselves. Thinkers can be assume snobs for just having a passion for ideas and not being particularly people people. They can also be branded snobs as an insult by people who feel intimidated by them despite all their efforts to be approachable and listen to others. Fear is something that should be their to caution you not to paralyze you. The rabbit is afraid of being eaten, therefor the rabbit get a shot of adrenaline and runs for its life and escapes the predictor. You speak many good things, yet there are still flaws in this system. I think people are born with their qualities and are then forced into and taught to take on the negatives and then are challenged to over come them and return to their purest selves. Beautiful is more than beauty. Its not prettiness or extravagance, beauty can be found anywhere. Sacred geometry is beautiful and it's in everything. You have no clue. It's not about beauty, it's harmony. Japanese art is about how these forms speak to the mind and soul and assist us in living in harmony vs chaos.You clearly do not understand art and design. Christianity is flawed.

[@Anime-chan-gl4pe]

Wow I like your comment.

[@christopherlamanna2501]

Ha! My dad’s a 1 and was literally Mr clean for Halloween once…kept his house immaculate…as a 7 I go there in stress…let me reform my experiences.

[@larahamilton2273]

Wow! Challenging ideas to get me thinking. Thank you, thank you.

[@davesharrock5212]

So, I'm not sure I 100% understand, but I think this suggests that God is just that part of you which isn't the ego and isn't the part that condemns, judges and resents the ego. The Father is the inherited (nature) side of us, all the shit we have no choice about because we were born that way. The Son is the learned (nurture) side of us, what we pick up from the way we are treated as kids. And the Holy Spirit is the part of us that isn't either of those things and can stand apart and observe non-judgementally. Essentially God. But at the same time the soul is all three?

[@jvc8947]

I’m an INFJ (9) and I need outside words to continually check myself and call out my blindness

[@PHOTOLOIART]

really?! INFJ 's are 9's? did not know.

[@QED_]

@PHOTOART: No. i.pinimg.com/originals/39/19/fe/3919fe0d5f530222b9b895ad952d502e.png

[@humanthehuman]

@@PHOTOLOIART I'm and INFJ and I'm a 4. It can vary

[@PHOTOLOIART]

@@humanthehuman thanks Joel :)

[@LawnCareLady]

I don't know who this man is (yet) but he is truly unlocking the mysteries of the Word of God, and sharing this generous gift with us. indeed, I hope to strengthen this gift in my own life, so as to enjoy more fruit in my life. For now, I believe this priest has such a tremendous gift I think I'll just RECEIVE and be blessed by this teaching. I pray you all are too.

[@carolinethompson9692]

A life changing book of his for me is Falling Upward. I think you'd love it

[@racheladkins6060]

I’m ugly, poor, and a failure. Broken and grieving a lot!

[@willroach8443]

naranjo admitted that he got the types through automativ writing. He also said ichazo said there were no ancient sources, it was all born in ichazo's head. wake up people!

[@mattdouglas1050]

In the 13th minute Richard Rohr has a "tell me you've never read Marx without telling me you've never read Marx" moment.

[@padrai9398]

Serene. ❤️

[@andreav318]

I could listen to this guy talk for hours 😆

[@missSDW]

There’s three parts I found 😂 I’m definitely going to be listening to him for hours.

[@TMPreRaff]

@@missSDW Unemployed, eh?

[@missSDW]

@@TMPreRaff why would you say that?

[@Only1Dash-]

So good

[@mshopey32]

1:04:48 We are here now. Project 2025

[@fjbz3737]

Rip

[@Eusebeia7]

Concerning why the spirit is different from psychology, this paste I wrote for people enraged with the sadistic psychopathic God of the Tanakh but also explains much more. God is good and takes full responsibility for the creation of evil. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. And God promises to remove evil completely. Nahum 1:9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Evil is temporarily necessary for us to have the free will necessary to create our own soul, personality, character. Evil and Hell are simply the absence of God. God = fiery, love, light, good, truth, life Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire... hell = fiery, hate, dark, evil, lies, death. 1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's (spirit, mind, consciousness) work (soul, personality, character) shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire (God); and the fire shall try every man's (spirit, mind, consciousness) work (soul, personality, character) of what sort it is. 1 Corinthians 3:14 If any man's (spirit, mind, consciousness) work (soul, personality, character) abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's (spirit, mind, consciousness) work (soul, personality, character) shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself (spirit, mind, consciousness) shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's (spirit, mind, consciousness) work (soul, personality, character), pass the time of your sojourning (temporary residence) here in fear: Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men (spirit, mind, consciousness) once to die (separate from God like Adam), but after this the judgment:(the Krisis of rejoining God) Revelation 20:14 And death (separation from God) and hell (negative God) were cast into the lake of fire (God). This is the second death. (separation from an evil soul, personality, character). Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire (God) and brimstone: which is the second death.(separation from an evil soul, personality, character) Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death (separation from God), neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. But Matthew 16:26 For what is a man (spirit, mind, consciousness) profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul (soul, personality, character)? or what shall a man (spirit, mind, consciousness) give in exchange for his soul (soul, personality, character)? Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man (spirit, mind, consciousness), if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul (soul, personality, character)?

[@kylestenger5318]

“If you knew the magnificence of the three, six and nine, you would have a key to the universe.” - Nikola Tesla

[@JakeMGolle]

He wasn't talking about the enneagram.

[@lisaeaker9064]

Also truly think about if the way you answer is truly you or who you want to be

[@zellelietta1553]

It's interesting to see that the types that push their types away are the most obvious types. Also can't believe this is just the introduction