The EV mental model

I saw an article that suggested that we have a bias when it comes to EVs, so I did a little digging and found this research paper that does a nice job of laying out the rationale for what that is and talks about the mental model we use when switching to EVs.
To be clear, this is not something I wrote or have any connection to. I am just sharing it and thank the authors for their work.
Enjoy!
www.sciencedirect.com/science...

[@migmigjohnson9351]

Quick question - My Model S original range is 335 miles at 100%, so daily proper charging at 80% was 268. Fast forward to the point where enough degradation has taken place where max charge becomes 268. My question is, is it still safe to charge to 268 without accelerating degradation? Have there been any studies that answer this?

[@davestechstories8832]

That’s a good question and a general concern I have as well. I haven’t seen any studies to this point, but I’m continuing to look.

[@MrBeugh]

@@davestechstories8832 The physical capacity of the battery hasn't changed, just it's ability to hold a charge. I am not aware of any studies per se on this excellent question, but your battery has already been significantly degraded at this point. I think another way of looking at it is this: You should charge to the point where you will use your car. Most people don't commute 200+ miles/day and 80%+ of EV owners charge at home. If you're comfortable, set max range to around 225 miles to help wring out extra life from your battery. If you charge at home it doesn't really make any difference as your car is fully charged in the morning anyway.

[@johndinsdale1707]

So I have leased an ICE and EV cars. The ICE car refuel optimisation is, were is the cheapest fuel and if its inconvenient you put a quick gallon of expensive fuel. For EV you have charge at home, pay for charger hookup and then try and use as much as possible. Else prepare for a lottery of apps, broken fast charges and range anxiety. If I owned the EV then I have to learn about preconditioning and charge curves and fast charger power and maintenance. Then I will have to worry about battery warranties and resale values.

[@davestechstories8832]

That is the one thing Tesla does well: the integrated and seamless charging. It routes you to chargers as needed, removing the complexity of that part

[@pezpengy9308]

i dont get it. i'm on my fourth ev and still own a gas (guzzling) vehicle. each has its own use case. when i want to move LOTS of stuff, tow my boat, go long distance, or drive through bad neighborhoods i use my up-armored f150. for daily bopping about the tesla hits the road. at the end of a ev driving day, we just plug it in at home and the next day she's good to go... and i charge at only 12 amps. this has worked since ev#1 (a 75 mile range smart car, loved that thing) all the way to our current long distance model y. if we somehow drained the battery all the way through nearly 300 miles of range we just spend a day in our comfy trucky and the next day its back to 100% on the tesla... and yes we always charge every ev we've ever owned to 100% with no degradation in battery capacity. just dont charge over 12 amps and the battery doesnt heat up.

[@davestechstories8832]

I see the entirety of the ev world as uncharted territory; and possibly it’s analogous to when Henry ford introduced his cars. I have to imagine that the understanding of these new fangled machines confused people. And with EVs, we’re still figuring it out. You’re right in what you say. And I mostly do the same with my car and really don’t worry about it. I just find it fascinating to read what people think/hear/repeat. And the research around it is intriguing.

[@SillySausage-mq3so]

How much dd you get from your EV trade ins.

[@davestechstories8832]

I wound up selling to Carmax for $27,500. Details here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qImlq3Seg5ZglZosi=xp-BzupDYlayiADt

[@ac583]

EV driving finds you somewhere beween hobbyist apps and single-source evil billionares. i'm really grateful for the fools who are suffering this first decade or two as without this horrid stage there is no path to what must be the ultimate form of ev driving: ubiquitous charging from multiple competitive vendors including, almost certainly, motorway en-route charging.

[@davestechstories8832]

Fools might be a little strong. But your point is solid. And that path could be possible. Though it seems a long shot for now. Still, in other parts of the world, it seems to be taking off to a degree. At least in part due to the cost of gas in some places. So there’s hope in any case.

[@davestechstories8832]

And I might add that most of us that own EVs currently are aware that we are helping shape whatever the future holds.