The Evangelion Movies We NEVER Got

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Жыл бұрын

The Evangelion Rebuilds by Studio Khara are great, but they weren't always supposed to be the way they ended up. Actually, 3.0 and 3.0+1.0 were going to be completely different movies, and the preview trailers we got for them show Hideaki Anno's original vision for these movies. In this video I analyze what could've been in the Evangelion movies we never got.

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@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 Жыл бұрын
Still sad we never got to see Gendo, Fuyutski and Donkey’s Mountain Bro-ventures.
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
I want to see what they were up to! Hopefully studio Khara returns to show us
@embargovenom9948
@embargovenom9948 5 ай бұрын
The object you don't recognize at 3:00 is the coffin Asuka was sealed in after the fight with Bardiel.
@nitrothemountainengine66
@nitrothemountainengine66 8 ай бұрын
3:12 i love this shot because asuka looks like such a smug bastard
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT 8 ай бұрын
she does lol
@chazofalsa
@chazofalsa 4 ай бұрын
Anno has said that he is interested in telling more of the 14 year timeskip (without his full involvement probably.) So we might get a 2.5 + 3.0 movie. There was that short film a year ago so we might get something soon.
@capthawkeye8010
@capthawkeye8010 Жыл бұрын
So an interview that I read implies that the structure of the film that was 3.0. Gendo and Fuyutski are ousted from control of NERV by SEELE, they then quest to Calvary base (antarctica) so Gendo can use the Key of Nebuchadnezzar to become "King of the Lillim" or a God surpassing even Kaworu Nagisa. In his absence Kaworu and Kaji have become the heads of NERV and hatch a plan to rebuild the world damaged by the Second Impact and Near-Third-Impact. There are few details beyond this point. Anno decided he didn't like the idea of a movie about Shinji that Shinji is not actually in, so he jumped to 3.0. Also, I think if we can accept that the original plan for Evangelion Mark 6 was given to Evangelion Unit 13, a lot of issues in how 2.0 was supposed to translate into 3.0 are resolved much more easily. Essentially Unit 13's role in the story was the original one intended for Mark 6-but Anno didn't like Mark 6 that much since its motifs as the alternative to Unit 01 weren't strong enough. (Close inspection shows its design to be greatly influenced by Unit 01 but not more clearly so than Unit 13.) My own conjecture is that Gendo probably figured out a way to make SEELE subordinate to him and returns to NERV-Tokyo 3 unstoppable to all opposed after becoming supernatural ie: the "King of the Lillim". He dispatches the last Angel without the help of an Evangelion but his total disregard for the world and moral unscrupulousness finally alienates the WILLE faction out of NERV who sabotage his efforts to finish Near Third Impact. Wunder is hijacked by WILLE before it can be used, and Mark 6 is sent to neutralize Lilith for good and seal away the spears in Terminal Dogma, leaving Gendo unable to reach the tools to finish Near Third Impact. In return-Gendo sends Evangelion Unit 01 into space to prevent WILLE from waking Shinji and using him and Unit 01 to restore the world. As for 3.0 + 1.0, I really don't think the original plan for that movie in 2012 was much further than "WILLE mounts a final attack on NERV with the restored Evas 02 and 08". That's pretty much what we got in Final, so other than some minor details in how the last battle was supposed to look as it played out-what you see is what we got.
@harshitpruthi4022
@harshitpruthi4022 Ай бұрын
so is their a chance that this movie will be created ?
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 Жыл бұрын
2:49 - Also this Rei is dressed exactly like the Alternate Universe Rei from Episode 26 of NGE. Or if you prefer "Rei 3" from Petit Eva@School. God only knows where Anno was going with that...
@CrimsionVision
@CrimsionVision Жыл бұрын
I definitely wish some of those scenes from the scrapped 3.0 were added to the one we got to add in some context, an issue I had with 3.0 personally
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the main issue with 3.0, it can be confusing and not everything is explained. Shinji’s perspective is confusing, and that leaves the audience confused as well. Thanks for watching!
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
@@nickmakesfilmsYT #rewriteevangelionending #releasetheannocut
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
@@Nur21025 ahem that's. not the same footage and its very different new footage
@Erickrc24
@Erickrc24 Жыл бұрын
I mean at least recently we had Evangelion 3.0+1.0 (-46h)
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
@@Erickrc24 it's just a short for a character nobody cares about got pink hair and it retcons the original 3.0 footage in the credits of 2.0 and it takes place literally after 2.0 and for God sake it's not the same footage as the original 4.0 unit fight
@bluewings2
@bluewings2 2 ай бұрын
Minor detail, at 1.19 you mention that Rei is dead but 3.0 and 3.0 + 1.0 (lol) confirm that she is alive, "simply" trapped (probably voluntarily) inside EVA 01, that's why Rei have long hair. It's a minor detail because sadly she do nothing... which is very frustrating.
@saavedra909
@saavedra909 Ай бұрын
The fun thing is that there had been long-time rumors the complete or at least a good part of the original 3.0 movie was lost during the 2011 earthquake. Despite the official reports that say isn't true, people still speculate that actually happened.
@Cooo_oooper
@Cooo_oooper Жыл бұрын
I think there will be a movie in the next few years. Maybe with Anno, maybe without him directing. Evangelions is way too big of a franchise to not do anything with it. I mean the recent IMAX release in the US shows that they are willing to continue milking Evangelion. Also: The moments before Kajis death are shown in 3.0+1.0 during misatos flashback before the Wunder launches Operation Yashima. We can see Kaji saying goodbye and giving his armband to Misato. Behind Misato we can also see the AAA Wunder in the background in the geofront.
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about that scene in 3.0+1.0. Maybe it was originally gonna be in 3.0 but they changed it. Thanks for watching! You make good points. I'm excited to see the future of the franchise.
@oneshoalice
@oneshoalice Жыл бұрын
I'd rather Anno move on from eva honestly :(( but its pretty understandable considering how he poured all his emotions into it and made NGE to express himself basically (anno said it himself that he put all of his life (doubts and struggles and other stuff he loved) into NGE). And considering how Gaina[x] fucked Khara's plan for the future by taking away their franchises it's pretty understandable if Khara wants to turn into a fully Eva studio. (What Gaina[x] took from Khara (aggreements were made and its rightfully Khara's considering the staffs) FLCL (Kazuya), Gunbuster (Anno), Diebuster (Kazuya, Anno)) (you can read about it more on Anno's writeup on his relationship with gainax).
@gobterr
@gobterr 10 ай бұрын
I really wish it does. I feel like evangelion still hasn’t finished. Even though the ending basically finished it all up. I’d even be happy if a new movie releases as a slice of life
@joshuabaker5167
@joshuabaker5167 Жыл бұрын
2:17 Kaworu is actually standing in front of the shadows he is the head of NERV at this time that's why he wearing Gendous outfit and 3.0 + 1.0 have a scene correlating to this when Kaji and Kaworu talk
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up!
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Жыл бұрын
I just hope there will be an Eva 2.5 movie at some point. That Anno is willing to show more has been proven by the 10 minute short that was produced for 3.333 as a prequel to the movie, called "Evangelion: 3.0 (-46h)". I can only recommend to anyone watching it, it is quite fantastic!
@oneshoalice
@oneshoalice Жыл бұрын
whoops wrong reply
@zedaddy3530
@zedaddy3530 Жыл бұрын
Anno said that there will be a movie explaining the time skip, and then that is it for Evangelion .
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
He teased it but never confirmed it. I really hope we do get it tho. It’ll probably be the end of his Evangelion, but Evangelion will probably have a spin-off or reboot ran by someone else at Studio Khara, it’s too profitable of a franchise to keep gone forever.
@onikaru
@onikaru Жыл бұрын
2:59 Its asuka in a coffin like thing, sealed because the angel that attacked her when shinji attacked unit 03 got stuck in her eye and became apart of her. As seen at the very end of 2.0
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks for watching!
@wunlee1512
@wunlee1512 Жыл бұрын
damn I always suspected that was the case with the 3.0 preview. I really really enjoyed that small 30 second bit that never became part of any theatrical release. True to Evangelion style tho
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Yeah in a funny way it’s a very Evangelion move to pull. Thanks for watching!
@thepastadoge324
@thepastadoge324 11 ай бұрын
Those ending scenes always confused me cause we never see anything happen with them, i never thought about cut content
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT 11 ай бұрын
Yes sadly it’s all stuff they planned to do but scrapped :(
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 11 ай бұрын
​@@nickmakesfilmsYTunless they make an alternate cut of 3.0 and 4.0
@Vsmassl
@Vsmassl Жыл бұрын
Damn, I never thought about that preview possibly being canon. Nice analysis! Btw wet kaworu 😖🥴😅💀
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@ommlettuce3137
@ommlettuce3137 2 күн бұрын
Honestly I think that the scene with Unit 02+08 was never actually meant to happen. It was just supposed to be a silly little teaser that they didn’t have any intention of doing.
@robertbrighton9797
@robertbrighton9797 4 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t surprise me that a spin off tv series with anno as a producer but not the chief director covering the time skip could happen
@KindredGh0st
@KindredGh0st Ай бұрын
Outstanding essay!!!
@TrillaSuduri1
@TrillaSuduri1 7 ай бұрын
I really hope that they'll eventually release this version of 3.0. Maybe as an "in between" movie, named 2.5, or something like that. Seeing Unit-6 gliding down the dogma is really cool, I wonder what Kaworu was up to. Also maybe the desert scene with Ikari and Fuyutski has something to do with the dead sea scrolls? Or just some search for artefacts.... So many unanswered questions!
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT 7 ай бұрын
I also hope they do that!
@provisionalhypothesis
@provisionalhypothesis 6 ай бұрын
2.5555 😂😂😂
@plebtech481
@plebtech481 4 ай бұрын
I'm sure you have been told or figured it out, but the thing that you really don't know what it is, is the Quarantine Asuka was kept inside after her merger with Unit 03… not sure how but she likely Willed her contaminated form out of her Eva’s Core (or what remained of if) after Unit 01’s dummy system ripped 03 apart… Similar to how Shinji rematerialised in the NGE series.
@CdrChaos
@CdrChaos Ай бұрын
There’s an entire movie between 2.0 and 3.0 that is missing. And that desperately needed context is what it would have taken for the emotional impacts of 3.0 and the 4th movie to actually work. Just imagine it, an entire movie without having to deal with Shinji.
@Pacmanfan-po9rn
@Pacmanfan-po9rn Жыл бұрын
We got the 128h manga and 46h short, but man would a shorter OVA series or something showing these events be amazing
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
agreed! thanks for watching!
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 2 ай бұрын
As a Shinji and Rei cosplayer I had initially high hopes for the Rebuild movies when I did Shinji 2.0 Plugsuit but then in the later half it went completely downhill and eventually I did Rei 4.0 (black) Plugsuit but somehow I felt the second half was a bungling mess in terms of plot.
@juiceslayer2019
@juiceslayer2019 3 ай бұрын
2:59 pretty sure this is what auska was contained in to recover from bardiel
@yugrif4403
@yugrif4403 Жыл бұрын
I have watched the brand new OVA that shows some timeskip events ans it's quite interesting!
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
I need to watch it! I’m so excited for it!
@TrillaSuduri1
@TrillaSuduri1 6 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks that Kaworu looks a bit different in the final version of 3.0? In the previous movies and previews his eyes look different and his hair too. Maybe I'm also just making this up 😂
@capthawkeye8010
@capthawkeye8010 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with the assessment that 3.0 was a great movie as we got it-but i'm still very curious about what *this* 3.0 was going to be like. I guess it wouldve been more like a 2.5 Evangelion-and we'll never know since it was ultimately intended to be a mid-quel and would be incapable of ending Rebuild as we saw it. But there was such a leap between 2.0 and 3.0 that when fans were shocked at how much had changed I shared a bit of their shock at first. I later came to see 3.0 as a great movie-but I didn't at first because of how much it had changed, a 2.5 would've been good and could-in theory still be relevant.
@provisionalhypothesis
@provisionalhypothesis 6 ай бұрын
I think 3.0 is incredible it definitely was a little bit disjointed because of all the stuff that you have to kind of fill in yourself but now that everything has been completed it is pretty amazing in my estimation even the fact that Shinji is basically an angel which just makes the whole thing kind of wild
@mercenaryknight5419
@mercenaryknight5419 6 ай бұрын
One can easily see the 3.0 preview happening in the time gap, for sure. I love 3.33 BTW. As for the 4.0 preview, looks better than what we got. Yep, I was not a big fan of the finale to say the least. The closest we'll get to that is the Khara short film *Until You Come To Me* that was written by Anno himself. Which gives you a further glimpse of what the finale could have been.
@thomasthemas8781
@thomasthemas8781 Жыл бұрын
This thing was asuka you see it in the 2nd movie
@RexEtAstra
@RexEtAstra 5 ай бұрын
I see the Rebuilds as a massive waste of time and effort (though 3.0+1.0 had some good moments). Is there a place where I could read more about this alternate path for the movies?
@x5N__
@x5N__ Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: There will be a short movie released with 3.0+1.0 Blu Ray on May
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Exciting!
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
But it's not the same footage as Eva 8+2 and the storyline doesn't follow the alternate 3.0 it was just inspired by it
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 Жыл бұрын
@@nickmakesfilmsYT watched it - it’s midori trying to escape near third impact, getting cornered by those big zombie Eva things and being rescued by Asuka in a ramshackle unit 2 with Mari flying her in with the same flying wing we see in the Jet Alone episode. We also find out why Midori has pink hair.
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
@@Jayfive276 I also saw it, I'm debating making a video on it.
@RM2011ish
@RM2011ish Жыл бұрын
@@nickmakesfilmsYT I wouldn't say it's Near Third Impact. Kaworu stopped that remember? Somehow SOMETHING restarted Third Impact resulting in the Failures of Infinity Midori was running from in -46. There's also the matter of Unit 01 going to space, the creation of WILLE and Kaji's heroic sacrifice. There's a HUGE story regarding the Timeskip that we don't have the full picture of yet. Hopefully Khara will tell us eventually.
@juhanjames2653
@juhanjames2653 6 ай бұрын
where can i watch this
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT 6 ай бұрын
Amazon Prime has all the movies
@AERITHYTISEASTERNSTAR
@AERITHYTISEASTERNSTAR 4 ай бұрын
I see an alchemy circle. I think this movie had to much masony in it and they canceled it.
@silverpiano2363
@silverpiano2363 Жыл бұрын
I actually don't care glad shinji was happy in the end
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
I also am glad shinji was happy and I like what we got, but it’s fun to analyze what could have been
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
in an asspulled and fan service and y'all forget he was happy in 2.0
@silverpiano2363
@silverpiano2363 Жыл бұрын
@@beatdownking1244 happy for making disaster?
@silverpiano2363
@silverpiano2363 Жыл бұрын
@@nickmakesfilmsYT great video by the way
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
@@silverpiano2363 Atleast he grew a spine in a developmental way and not an ass pulled way at the end of 2.0 and he first of all it wasnt even shinji it was nerv and willie and his fathers dumbass plan and y’all forget the aquarium scene in 2.0 and was happy with rei and theres a reason mari didnt reveal who she was because she’s a pedophile
@bukkakracy
@bukkakracy Жыл бұрын
are we sure they are great movies?
@nickmakesfilmsYT
@nickmakesfilmsYT Жыл бұрын
Lol in my opinion they are pretty good. Not end of evangelion good but still good.
@zedaddy3530
@zedaddy3530 Жыл бұрын
Hell yea
@oneshoalice
@oneshoalice Жыл бұрын
Meh, idk i think 3.0 is amazing personally but the rest is pretty meh, first half of 3+1 is great but the second half could be better if they made the sketchy anno instrumentality a live action (i guess that's the plan? but covid? since they need crowds and all). 2.0 is improvement, and 1.0 is okay ish. But what i love about the rebuilds is that its beat by beat the same story as the original.
@bukkakracy
@bukkakracy Жыл бұрын
@@oneshoalice hell yeah! i buy that.
@provisionalhypothesis
@provisionalhypothesis 6 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the push back that you see on the internet is wrong for a start, but also it's because people often assume that rebuild is a remake of a the original, and they don't like the idea that the original was replaced, but that's just not how it is as we all know, or anybody that has any sense knows.
@beatdownking1244
@beatdownking1244 Жыл бұрын
Can't there ever be an alternate or extended edition of 3.0+1.0 like 4.0 final because im being an honest Eva fan I didn't like thrice at all it overrated and the ending is so ass pulled and biased towards fans
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