The Ever After High Iceberg

[@LaurenG]

Hey guys so little mention here, there is an editing mistake in the beginning of layer 2 (with the Kendal audio in the back) my apologies I caught this after uploading and it was supposed to be used for something but I took it out, failing to check if I took out the audio. I would fix it, BUT this video took way too long to upload since it’s over an hour. Hope it’s not TOO bothersome. EDIT: Some of you all have been asking for the link to the stop motion short Thunder High, here it is: www.bixpix.com/mattel Hope you all enjoy 😁💕

[@codymerrell5387]

Your Ever After High Iceberg video is Awesome

[@codymerrell5387]

Remember Ever After High’s slogan The End Is Just The Beginning Mattel save reminded of that and Bringing Us Ever After High Back

[@LaurenG]

@@codymerrell5387 Thank you😁💕

[@codymerrell5387]

@@LaurenG your welcome Not a full hater on Gen 3 Monster High But miss Gen 1 Monster High Was looking forward to the Monster High & Ever After High Cross Over movie But Ever After High Deserves A Grand Comeback

[@Pixal2014]

8:07 they still have way to Wonderland, dragon game and spring on Netflix

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Unpopular Opinion: The switched at birth theory for Raven and Apple devalues both of their characters and personal story. Wasn't the whole point that you didn't have to be like your parents? I hate the idea of Raven being "naturally good" and her rebellious nature covered up so she can be the "Perfect Princess" and all of Apple's negative traits just being cause she was secretly "Evil" and that there was nothing wrong with how she was raised to make her believe what she believes. Like Raven not wanting to be evil like her mother and wanting to be accepted for the kind, yet sarcastic person she is without dealing with people hating her for something she can't control. Apple's fear of the unknown gives her anxiety about the future if no one signs the book. Headmaster Grimm preys on those anxieties. We see that in the show and in the books. Let's not pretend she had no real concerns here.

[@thankunext5602]

Oooo I agree

[@harmonetheanimationaddict4419]

It still is a very interesting idea.

[@mikamikadominika]

THANK YOU OMG

[@DoIIyMama]

Honestly, like does majority of eah fandom not know what brainwashing and propaganda is, because Apple being raised on that propaganda since birth of course it would be hard for her to see outside of it.

[@Lovesickjnk]

YES THANK YOU

[@spicyflour7468]

"we need more complex female characters!!!" yall can't even handle APPLE WHITE

[@madi7178]

Preach!

[@Fish-r1y]

I can handle her I jst don’t have to like her

[@peuldoongie]

That is so true 😂

[@captainayaaya28]

THANK YOU 👏

[@blueotter5954]

I do like Apple White. I get why in world characters shout at her, I don't get the audience does. Like, we see her make choices, get consequences, re evaluate herself and values. And she's FAR from perfect, yet still aims to to the right thing. She was manipulated, tricked, fooled, had the rug pulled from under her. She's incredible in how she just picks herself back up and continues.

[@harmonetheanimationaddict4419]

Gotta say, I LOVE the concept of Duchess secretly being The Black Swan's kid.

[@flammilf]

My unpopular opinion about Apple is that you can acknowledge that she is really well written and still dislike her as a person. She just doesn’t vibe with be. But on another note, great video! I am amazed that I knew that much already, but I was a huge fan after all. I had all the base outfits (I think), and exactly 1 special doll, which was the horribly expensive Cerise Wolf comic con doll. She was my absolute favorite, so she was the only one I got 2 copies of. I still have all my 30 dolls and the lack of quality on the last ones is just sad

[@LaurenG]

I’m glad you liked the video😁💕

[@princessofweirdsville9000]

I definitely agree on the first thing you said. Many fans need to realize that just because you don’t like a character, that doesn’t mean they aren’t written well. I personally LOVE Apple dearly and think shes well written, but still.

[@kenthuang436]

I agree. I dislike Apple for her always wanting to get her happily ever after and attempting to get Raven to follow her destiny so that Apple gets hers but I like how Apple was fully realized as a character and well written so that she still had some depth and likability to her and you can actually see her point of view when she tells Raven the only reason she tried so hard to get Raven to sign the Book of Legends was because she’s terrified at what could possibly happen if Raven doesn’t do it and she doesn’t want anything bad to happen to everyone as a result. Fear sometimes makes people act pushy and try to force others to act the same way because the person doesn’t know what will happen once the thing that is scaring them actually happens and they want to make sure everyone they care about is safe.

[@Observer_Decay]

I like to head cannon that the reason Daring shows up in the book at the beginning is because since it's a fake, he's there because everyone *expects* him to be Apple's prince.

[@christaspirit]

I'm working on a fanfic, and my lore for the storybook of legends is that parents tell Grimm about their child and which destiny the kid will have, despite what actual metaphysical destiny has in store. From there, Grimm can assign kids to different destinies (most prevalent being the various Charmings). The original storybook of legends (the one Raven destroys) was created by the Grimm family to overwrite destiny to repeat stories. It was more magical, and if everyone in the fairytale signed it, it would force them to go through the story. The fake didn't have this power of magical force. It was highly magical, yes, and would show what people expected to happen, but it didn't have any actual powers over destiny. Daring showing up is because that's what people chose, Apple's true love being Darling is what destiny chose.

[@rachelthornton4442]

The white swan/black swan thing actually makes sense for Duchess. In the Swan Lake ballet, both Odette and Odile are played by the same actress, so it’d make sense if Duchess is both the Black and White Swan.

[@withlovetumi]

I miss EAH so much, but I never thought I needed to watch an EAH iceberg video. Yet, here I am. Great job on this video!

[@LaurenG]

Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed it 😁💕

[@reinheart]

48:49 The Evil Queen's letter is actually really sweet imo

[@Valentineatelier]

I’ve waited my whole life for someone to make a video like this. MY WHOLE LIFE.

[@LaurenG]

You’re welcome😂😂💕

[@khoi6788]

REAL

[@KatsiYori-zk5gm]

48:49 The Evil Queen does seem cruel as in her actions, but her letter makes her seem like she loves her daughter at heart and doesn't care if she is good or evil. If you see the end of Dragon Games, The Evil Queen roots for Raven saying, "That's my daughter", through the mirror holding a foam finger thing.

[@greenthinggg]

Lmao yes I love how deep the lore goes I actually feel bad for the evil queen

[@nebojsamiladic2682]

yes and in the books she basically tells Raven that she doesn't care if she's good or bad, she just doesn't want her to follow Grimm's rules

[@VSleepymoongirl]

Another thing I kinda never understood about EAH is about Ashlynn. The stories they use are based of the original Grimm stories so that would mean that in EAH Cinderella's name is actually Cinderella its just "Ella". She called Cinderella by her step sisters. Obviously Ashlynn's name is based on Cinderella's but from a narrative standpoint it doesn't make sense why Cinderella would name her only child after that part of her trauma, so I headcanon that Ashlynn's "original name" was actaully just Lynn and that her step cousins called her Ashlynn like her mom and it just stuck because of her destiny. Also it would make sense cause she's kind of a Rebel, so maybe along the line of the series she would just have all her friends call her "Lynn" as a way to reclaim her identity. Anyways sorry for the rant. Thanks for the video 💙

[@wowjennawow]

this is canon in my brain now omg

[@pamayapaya]

I love this headcanon! It makes a lot of sense too

[@lilijung7455]

genius brain moment: now it’s canon (for me))

[@yaf4tha]

I thought the same about Apple, 'cause why on earth would Snow White name her kid after the very thing that should've been traumatic to her

[@bananatief]

Their parents aren't the OGs. Apple's mother is not the original Snow White, Raven's is not the original evil queen, and so on.

[@chrissy9275]

Ever after high had so much unexplored lore that it’s heart breaking

[@leahumine8421]

Fr, dang Mattel, what have you done by creating this and canceling it ✋😭

[@edgysoftie157]

8:36 I still have the yearbook!! A clerk at my scholastic book fair all the way back in elementary recommended i buy this book and will forever thank that clerk at the fair. As for the website, there was a game on there i really liked since it represented the way to wonderland arc in ever after high.

[@jakeyboy203]

I'm so gutted EAH ended i would have loved a Movie/Doll Line where they go to Underwater Palace with Meeshell Mermaid and they all get turned into mermaids by Raven's magic or something and they meet Meshells parents and the Sea Witch and the Seawitch's daughter Coral this would have been so amazing to see like characters having the tails like there outfits like Darling having a Armour tail and Rosabella having a tail covered in Roses and Kitty having a Catfish tail lol sooo much could have been done it makes me sad and the doll line would have been fabulous

[@blank68503]

About cupid and the whole eros x psyche thing, i think since the gods are immortal beings, they don’t need to make their kids follow their legacies, that’s why except for cupid we don’t have the children of any god in ever after high

[@explodingmangos3416]

Well also, CA Cupid is originally from monster high. So she isn’t necessarily a fairytale/she isn’t in the book of legends

[@DoIIyMama]

Headmaster grime should've been jailed, how did his brother forgive him after getting cursed to stay under the school💀

[@singingwithbecca]

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Literally! Giles should have jumped him as SOON as the girls let him out!!!! The only reason he didn't is because they wanted to keep it from getting "too" serious. If you think Headmaster Grimm is shady in the show, book! Headmaster Grimm is SINISTER! Literally committed identity theft!

[@SkibbidyToilet-om7tc]

FRRR

[@dasiaosaa9109]

maybe his brother understood grime's inherent urge to preserve the fairy tales as they were? there's an episode where grime loses his brother in childhood.

[@Valentineatelier]

The thronecoming queen results is really weird. Because I know *for a fact* the official KZbin channel uploaded HD, full sound videos for EVERY country in the right language

[@drawndy6761]

Yes, I remeber watching all of them. In my country Raven was the winner but I did watch Blondie's and Cupid's videos in their laguages...but I only remember seeing them once. What could have happened?

[@numberjacksoctonauts7138]

Despite Ramona being in a 'soft reboot', I think that her story in the show is very well explained. She went to reform school, and if she truly is the daughter of the Big Bad Wolf while Cerise is the daughter of Little Red Riding Hood, they'd have each other to fall back on for their destiny (should they play it out).

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Which is pretty smart of her parents

[@dasiaosaa9109]

are they full siblings?

[@kenthuang436]

The plot hole involving Cupid that has always bothered me is related to the cliffhanger that teased a MH and EAH crossover where Astra was talking to Raven and Apple and saying how the Monster world was real. We know that all of the fairy tale characters know each other and their family’s stories and do take notice if someone new suddenly appears like with Crystal or Alistar and Bunny. And they are curious about said new person in their world. Yet Cupid literally appears out of nowhere from their viewpoint and no one seems to ask her where exactly she came from? Did she never mention Monster High? This is what I find confusing.

[@johannaglatvedzannettos8406]

The only thing i can think of to explain it is for some big reason she is not allowed to mention it, tho i dont have any idea what that be.

[@lindseystu7783]

The only other MH x EAH crossover I can think of is a book called “The Legend of Shadow High”, if you want to read that

[@Kocham1bigos]

Ever after high a HUGE part of my childhood :))

[@magmoney2317]

In addition to the reading of EAH as a racial allegory, it can also be interpreted as a queer or generally political allegory. The royals are trying to keep the conservative, cishet status quo, while the rebels are “rebelling” against what’s expected of them and living unashamedly as themselves, similarly to how queer people are seen as deviant and rebellious against societal expectations. This makes it even more interesting that Apple, the leader of the royals, ends up with a woman as her “Prince Charming,” leading to an interesting commentary on internalized homophobia. I doubt the writers actually considered this when writing the show, but it’s fun to think about.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

In the books, it's even clearer. The conflict before the Royal/Rebel thing was Royals vs. Commoners! It's a metaphor for classicism! Raven created a whole new group with the rebels!

[@madisonyomans9004]

yeah, and even in in some moments in the show, I think in the diaries implies that the Royals get special privilege. Maddie says in one of them I think her diary or the book I can’t remember been a long time. during legacy Royals get cushion thrones and the rebels got stools like hard wooden stools to sit on. they had to sit through a whole ceremony on hard stools that would’ve pissed me off royally ha ha pun intended. and there’s also apples baking contest for her birthday only the Royals were allowed to participate until that year.

[@golira4415]

@@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241I need to reread the books now that I’m older and have more education toward topics such as classism, racism and homo/transphobia being subliminally relayed through novels such as EAH. I haven’t read them since I was 10 but now I’m itching to reread the two I have so I can overanalyze it😭

[@floveury]

this is suuuuper late (still watching the video, its great!) but maybe since odette & odile are often danced by the same ballerina in the ballet that duchess could be both the black swan and the white swan, kinda similar to what you said? lol just a thought

[@sophiefredrickson9370]

The books were so dark and good

[@carolcallahan656]

how many are there???

[@screamingbegins4688]

​@@carolcallahan6564 main and 6(?) mini ones

[@andrewsanusi8462]

Honestly the entire plot of EAH is pretty dark when you think about it

[@calicomarker]

I don’t think the show was ever trying to set the idea of Blonde haired ppl being an oppressed minority in EAH, more so that Snow White is almost always depicted as a Brunette or with Black Hair, and in the EAH Universe Snow White has always been Brunette or had Black hair. Snow white has had dark hair for years, of course Apple being blonde what would be a point of concern for her, even outside the show’s lore off the top of my head Apple is the only Blonde Snow White I can think of. Most choices in stories do have context, and trying to claim EAH has hair discrimination against Blonde’s when said Blonde is the first Blonde of a family with mostly Black/Brown hair is just ignoring the context.

[@hannahmei4580]

I also wanna point out something that the show doesn't really touch on, Apple is actually insanely smart as noted by Raven who even admits that she forgets that Apple has the brains. It breaks a stereotype abt dumb blondes, except the shows rlly missed the mark on that tbh.

[@lauravampire1276]

The cancellation of this show will forever sadden me. If other universes exist, I hope one of them gave this amazing series a proper ending or should I say, happily ever after 💕

[@CarterTable]

1:08:46 a theory I came up with was Madeleine got bitten by zombie and cut off her arm to stop the infection, but it already spread to the rest of her body and she start turning people into zombies and killing others. I came up with it because the hair and the clothes remind me of Madeline.

[@valentina_hearts3447]

Oh my God the evil queen's letter to Raven is so sad that broke my heart 😭 I completely forgot that Raven had to have had a dad like it just feels like her mom decided to spawn her one day 😭😭

[@roxannezivic8951]

If you have a VPN, Australian Netflix still has the entire EAH show

[@LizBizEEEE]

11:07 anyone else hearing audio from a whole other video?

[@augustosuris]

The video was incredible!!!! Seriously, it was awesome hearing all the layers and theories about EAH 💖

[@LaurenG]

Thank you I’m glad you liked it😁

[@medea__witchhh]

you have no idea how long i have been waiting for someone to do this ❤

[@medea__witchhh]

omg i never knew there were so many instances of blonde hair being a status symbol

[@medea__witchhh]

honestly i don't think the racial hierarchy parallels are that far fetched. if the writers were being intentional with it, it was still handled clumsily. if not, yikes.

[@Nati_Czar_Nati]

Wow book EAH were so dark. I never readed rham and prob never will but i regret not getting them when i had eah phase. Thank you for a cool video ❤

[@christaspirit]

10:40 When I watched the Monster High and EAH I didn't know they were made by the same company, but still thought they were connected, even before I saw Here Comes Cupid or 13 Wishes or the ending scene of Boo York Boo York. My reasoning? Name. They have similar names.

[@mlpfanboy1701]

One character i wondered about: dutchess swan. How does she even exist? If we are going by the logic the fairy tale humans and other races reproduce sexually (which red ridding hood and big bad wolfs daughters suggest) then how is duchess even alive? She is upset she feels she has to follow her moms fate but if that applied even after the fairytale was over her mother was supposed to be dead. Unless odette and sigfreid did it when they first met and that was literally 10-12 weeks before her death at least (since that is how long it takes for a female swan to make a nest, lay and incubate her eggs before hatching) the time line does not fit and that is of course assuming her gestation time is a swan’s gestation and not the midpoint between swan and human. Unless there was some supernatural magic going on that literally created a child just to torture, her one literally an orphan before birth, that means her story was not her future and ever after high is not training there kids for there future: its training them to be actors! Once there story is told again how they live there lives in the fairy tale world would be theres to chose because the story was complete. That would mean that every adult in the fairytale world was an a***ole because they are literally blaming raven for a part that doesn’t define her off stage and it wasn’t even her actions it was her mom’s. This would also mean that dutchess’ search for a happily ever after would be completely pointless because her ending literally has no baring on her life after the story is told. This one thing opens up so many questions and plot-holes.

[@screamingbegins4688]

the version eah follows is that she doesnt die, she just has to live as a swan forever. do u think maybe her mum layed eggs and duchess was born a swan?? im pretty sure theres a canon explaination but i dont remember it off the top of my head

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

@screamingbegins4688 Which Duchess never met her father then i guess

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Apple IS constantly saying "We all have our PART to play"

[@Nati_Czar_Nati]

1:11:00 i think change in apple prince charming is because book of legends were fake

[@marwaessaadi]

the thing with Apple is I used to hate her too until the kiss with Darling and then you realize that her whole behavior wasn't because she was selfish but because of CompHet, thinking that acting like this and being overly obsessed with an ideal would make her straight, wondering if something was wrong with her, why she couldn't be like her mother + the constant pressure Snow White puts on her (which i don't understand how snow white isn't a good person in EAH but whatever)

[@horrortheater3172]

Amazing video. Also my thoughts on things from the iceberg. The first is Romana being from Ceries imagination doesn't work with me. I read the post but is it always bothered me and i think it's because it kinda diminishes her character. I know that we don't get along of info on her but if they gave her more screen time or a doll with a diary we could have learn more about her which is kinda sad because i fall in love with her design. So i decided to write her diary that i post on Reddit when i finished or do it. As for the racial higher key that i really don't think about except for Ceries after reading a comment on a doll video with her San Diego Comic-Con Cerise Wolf doll. Which actual makes sense in a way. As for the hair discrimination thing I did not know about that.

[@LaurenG]

Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed it😁💕

[@masterofvoreth8636]

As the creator of the Ramona theory, it was never meant diminish Ramona in fact it was supposed to Heighten it. Instead of repeating the same character beats of Cerise (ie. A child of wolf and Red) and giving her her own story. The idea is that Romona is aware of the fact that her existence is tied to Cerise’s unstable reality, and knows once cerise accepts the bad wolf, Ramona cease to exists. She goes out of her way to keep Cerise from her destiny so that she could extend it just a little longer, but ultimately that one day the life she has will simply disappear. Even coming face to face with those that knows what she really is. But she does grow and accept her own destiny when it comes to finally saying goodbye to the world she loved. It’s an idea of Ramona facing existential dread and finally coming to terms with it. I have written several blurbs about it l, as well as some stories

[@horrortheater3172]

@@masterofvoreth8636 oh I don't know that. but it never really work for me. One idea that I heard that to me works. Is that Ceries was supposed to be the next Big Bad Wolf while Ramona was supposed to be the Next red riding hood but something happen or by accident had switch Destiny's with Ceries as the next red riding hood and Romona the next big bad wolf

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

​@@horrortheater3172Ehhh I don't think so. Cerise looks more human so it's obvious why she is gonna be the Next Red Riding Hood. In the books her true father is being kept a secret. Most people think the Huntsman is her father. Ramona looks more obviously like a daughter of the big bad wolf so she is gonna get the big bad wolf destiny. Her secret is her mother being Red Riding Hood. Both girls hiding their family secret lets their parents of the hook and people will assume any bad blood the sisters have is because of their destinies. It also helps that both girls take after the parent whose destiny they're claiming.

[@loveablesimp]

​@@masterofvoreth8636 I know you didn't mean to make it like that but it does diminish their characters for both Cerise and Ramona specially after one of the EAH books had Red's family haunted down for going against their stories... and making all of that just an delusion is just :/

[@brrrmanu6339]

1:15:00 Actually I don't think Briar is coded POC, she's white with brown hair, just a bit tanned compared to the others. Justine Dancer actually is but she isn't neither royal or rebel. Maybe there aren't much POC characters because most fairytales are european

[@screamingbegins4688]

is nina thumbell a royal or a rebel??

[@bailey2238]

i actually looked into it a few days ago and apparently briar and rosabella are both confirmed to be afro-latina by mattel

[@salutiesse]

Literally- it's certainly not coded.

[@niasiamack9333]

Fantastic video and I agree with your thoughts on ever after high

[@LaurenG]

Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed 😁💕

[@ArtComet0_0]

For the theory about apple and raven being swapped at birth, I find it ironic that in the theory that raven is supposed to be related to Snow White even though she doesn’t even really seem that kind and always puts her happily ever after first. It’s a good theory but I don’t think Raven and snow white’s personalities would match between them since raven is more kind and understanding at times, meanwhile the queen is slightly sadistic

[@nawnaw]

Yes Raven is a much better person

[@byakuyatogami2905]

I kind of have a headcanon about this, where Snow White was actually the one to swap the girls herself because the Evil Queens child would be born with magic and she wanted more power/was mad that the Evil Queen wasnt executed after her story and wanted revenge. So Apple was born with magic that nobody ever told her about and thats why shes so "lucky" and seemingly effortlessly perfect. Raven was trained extensively, but only in evil spells, which is why her good spells ususlly fail. However she did have Snow Whites special ability of everyone loving/wanting to protect her which is part of thr reason the Evil Queen is so sweet and loving despite everything else about her. As for Apple, its not like Snow White has no love for her but she treats her with a lot more distance and puts a lot mote pressure on her to be a perfect snow white

[@SHUHUA4life]

FUN FACT; DECENDATS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED BY MATTEL.

[@animationteaparty]

Does anyone remember the EAH yearbook? I had one when I was younger.

[@LaurenG]

Oh yeah, I had one of those too!

[@hayamihinata4135]

Man, I remember really liking mine, I also remember that I donated it along with a lot of other books when I was cleaning out my room.

[@Whyamihere19]

I always assumed the darling/daring switch in Apple’s story came from the fact that her story changed. Technically she was poisoned by the apple by an evil queen, it wasn’t her evil queen, and was woken up by a charming who was not ment to be her charming,thus changing the story and diverting from her actual destiny. It could also be that she was poisoned to early, her priorities around love are more around her friends than any romantic relationship which could change how the true loves kiss is interpreted.But that may be giving Mattel to much credit and it’s probably just a plot hole like mentioned in the video.

[@violettorres1117]

28:07 NOT THE COLONIZER POCAHONTAS SONG-

[@LaurenG]

Nah all these months later I forgot I put that there😭😭

[@bailey2238]

i’m pretty sure ever after high was also shown on nickelodeon cause i have such a core memory of watching thronecoming on it at my grandmas house 😭

[@AbeCanales-jy9uh]

I’m pretty sure it was on another cable channel like universal kids or something

[@mosy6666]

I remember actually seeing the trailer of eah in Disney Channel!!! I remember how I literally fell in love with Briar the moment I saw her on there the first time lmaaooo :D

[@mosy6666]

Like literally putting my hands on tv saying "SHE İS SOO PRETTYYYYYY" And yes I am gay now :D

[@namtellectjoonal7230]

There's actually two different versions of Swan Lake which both are still being performed and it depends on which company performs it One version is the sad ending you described, where Odette dies and Odile triumphs, the other however is a happy ending where Odette is revived and Odile receives her comeuppance I'm guessing that Ever After High went with the happy ending version, which is why she tries to be the white swan instead. But honestly considering both options could have had alot of potential. Going to watch the ballet, you often don't know which ending you're gonna get. So imagine her just not knowing which ending will be in store for her, it could serve for some excellent drama and storytelling

[@Roeseii]

1:10:30 . I don't think it was a plothole error, nor a "mistake" that Daring was shown to be Apple's destiny charming. What I'd like to believe, because the book was fake, it only showed what they wanted, or believed was their destiny. If I remember correctly, its said Apple knew even when they were young that Daring was *going* to be her prince charming, so her and everyoe around her believed it, and subconsciously fed into that narrative, which would be why the story book of legends showed them being together

[@Valentineatelier]

Also you have a very pretty, relaxing voice 🥰

[@LaurenG]

Thank you😁💕

[@kate1060]

One hour video just about eah lore imagine how long the video would be if the show didint get cancelled

[@masterofvoreth8636]

Hey, Abared here. Just wanted to let you know if you do ever think about doing a video on the Ramona theory, I’m up for answering any questions or anything else you may need.

[@LaurenG]

Thank you so much😁 Your Reddit posts were mentioned on here a handful of times😂

[@paolabetancourt3365]

Uuuuh, the swap at birth theory sounds really interesting!

[@masterofvoreth8636]

Sadly it doesn’t really work as it is the antithesis of the series

[@nawnaw]

The Ramona is just a figment of cerise imagination theory doesn't hold up tbh ,we see Ramona rarely but she appears by herself in different scenes ,and we also see their father hug them and say he's proud of his daughters. There are little to no clues that indicate Ramona is not real..maybe she just wasn't written initially and added later

[@katvalentines]

i love this video i just wish the bgm was a little lower 😭but great iceberg

[@LaurenG]

Thank you😁💕

[@aiuraa4585]

Tbh I never even noticed abt the skin color differences so that stood out to me

[@thetronwarriors4817]

If you plan on doing a iceberg of disturbing lost media will you include the death of owen hart steve irins death and the tape of tiny tim collasping on stage in the iceberg

[@LaurenG]

Yeah I will talk about it, I don’t know if I’ll do it in an iceberg format tho 👍

[@vexywexypoo]

Dude, your briar doll is in better condition than any of mine

[@kiaheat1920]

Great video! :)

[@LaurenG]

Thank you😁💕

[@kiaheat1920]

Oh, I forgot, could you discuss 101 Dalmatians (1, 2, and 2019 series)?

[@kafkaesqueee]

I think it's interesting that straight fans hate Apple and put Raven on a pedestal, but queer fans absolutely adore Apple and understand her character arc because most of us have been there. James Somerton made a really good video talking about Queer Perfect that I think would be beneficial to look at and a good lens to view Apple through. I was in her shoes. I was a cheerleader, I modeled, I did good in school, I got engaged to a guy who's father owned a law firm. I thought having a husband and kids was perfect and what would make me happy. My family also made that love wasn't unconditional. I had to prove myself worthy of it and anything short of perfection often lead to physical abuse and neglect. So Apple feeling like it's either perfection or death is very much "girl same" to me. Apple is so queer coded the fact that she was "born wrong" because she's the first Snow White with blonde hair, like this thing out of her control means there's something wrong with her is exactly how I felt about being a lesbian. I have an amazing and gorgeous girlfriend now and I'm a mortuary science student. I get to be a lesbian openly and get to help alot of people. So Apple is personal to me and to alot of other queer folks because of that. It's so strange when I see Raven fans hating the gay character, it's so weird to me especially if they side with Raven because she's a rebel and progressive??? Apple has been so fucking fruit from the start she's even named after a fruit 😭 Again I understand her behavior and views are difficult to understand if you haven't experienced it, but there's a large amount of Raven stans who still deny the kiss scene as CPR. And also look for any way to deny her gayness which I don't even fully understand why. And now when people tell me their favorite is Raven I get the ick even tho I liked the character too.

[@princessofweirdsville9000]

Omg I never thought of that before! This is really well written and I absolutely agree with you on everything! Although, Raven does happen to be my favorite, but don’t worry, I don’t put down Apple like most of the fans do lol (Apple is my favorite too)

[@princessofweirdsville9000]

Omg I never thought of that before! This is really well written and I absolutely agree with you on everything! Although, Raven does happen to be my favorite, but don’t worry, I don’t put down Apple like most of the fans do lol (Apple is my favorite too)

[@princessofweirdsville9000]

Omg I never thought of that before! This is really well written and I absolutely agree with you on everything! Although, Raven does happen to be my favorite, but don’t worry, I don’t put down Apple like most of the fans do lol (Apple is my favorite too)

[@princessofweirdsville9000]

Omg I never thought of that before! This is really well written and I absolutely agree with you on everything! Although, Raven does happen to be my favorite, but don’t worry, I don’t put down Apple like most of the fans do lol (Apple is my favorite too)

[@princessofweirdsville9000]

Omg I never thought of that before! This is really well written and I absolutely agree with you on everything! Although, Raven does happen to be my favorite, but don’t worry, I don’t put down Apple like most of the fans do lol (Apple is my favorite too)

[@cobinizer]

To anyone who cares, Eros is a primordial. Aphrodite has a weird origin. When Cronus attacked Ouranos and castrated him, his wedding tackle fell into the sea. Out of the foam this caused, Aphrodite appeared. This is all according to Hesiod.

[@EvanLyons-ph6si]

The fact that this video wasn’t called the Ever After Highsperg is actually devastating

[@BUNBON-yf6le]

It’s actually not a head cannon that Darling and Apple are soulmates, the creator confirmed they are meant to be together Raven is bi Apple is lesbian Darling is lesbian Briar is bi Cupid is bi Dexter is bi Idk any other canon sexualities

[@Darlyy_Slayz]

I believe Darling is Bi and Cupid is Pan

[@dollguts9801]

Seriously where?

[@carolcallahan656]

@@dollguts9801right omg

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Where did you gather this information????

[@greenthinggg]

WHERE

[@valeriermcf6556]

I loved this, in my native language there's no a EAH iceberg (well, only a MH & EAH iceberg). EAH is still alive, b*tches!!!!

[@LaurenG]

I’m glad you liked it😂💕

[@legolotrlover]

MGA may still be releasing a new fairytale themed doll line as a spin off of Rainbow and Shadow High

[@tristanthetransgirlqueen2875]

I love this tbh

[@LaurenG]

Thank you😁💕

[@meow_3950]

what if the tale of two sisters is refrencing the "you will die if you dont follow your destiny". mabye they are the reson why everyone thinks you will die if you dont sign the book? becuse they disappeared? in a more dark turn: mabye they DID die while runnig away, and pepole thougt it was becuse of the book? just a silly little theory :p

[@thenexttangle8568]

22:21 I think its the opposite. In the first episode, the male narrator focuses on Apple and calls her pretty adjectives or whatever, and the female narrator calls him out with "Always playing favorites, are you?" (Paraphrased quote lol)

[@Kerfluffle.]

As a Duchess fanatic, these theories and plot holes suck, but the reason why she appears as a black swan when she's transformed is because by the end of "Next Top Villain" she starts producing black feathers, which in a way does support the theory she could be the black swan, but reading the book she's neither white nor black swan, she's a roybel

[@kahilmclaurin7800]

I personally loved Apple, she was my favorite character. I liked her because she was flawed. She had been raised and taught her whole life that this is how things were written and supposed to be; and who wouldn’t want these things to come to pass knowing that everything good would come to you👀😂😂. Yes she was overly optimistic because the stars aligned in her favor and she desired that. She was blinded by a perfect life, and then when ppl went against that she began to go through this big identity crisis. It was so intriguing to watch and I loved it. I loved watching her watch everything unfold before her eyes, that no one was truly happy, but she wanted her happiness to come to pass and would do anything to get it. She was flawed yes, but she was very much an interesting character. Maybe this is coming from the perspective of someone was considered a mature child, or the fact that I’m also a story writer (unpublished author), but I LOVE Flawed Characters; especially when they are far from aware. She was truly out innocent villain, which is a very interesting concept👀🖤🌸

[@paraskevitsoni6394]

Hmm very interesting video loved it! Also as a grown up woman now I think EAH is a political allegory about right wing (royals) and left wing (rebels) as I see it after a few years later!! But this goes at yhe very bottom of the iceberg right;??

[@audreyspidermonkey]

i love eah this vid is awesome❤

[@LaurenG]

Thank you😁💕

[@1appletree]

Ramona wasn't at the picnic since she was at juvenile detention center, they explain as much in her introduction short.

[@aquescloud1680]

Can you do a video about the Ramona coping mechanism theory?

[@SmoboNumber1fan]

2:58 this screenshot of briar is so funny to me idk why

[@Sparklemuffinpeacockspider]

Real

[@thelastromeo4848]

Ever after high will always trump descendants. 💯

[@Frostyblustar]

Thank you!

[@KristenHaggerty-r5k]

*sigh* I miss this childhood of mine

[@mlpfanboy1701]

17:20 in other words if you threw a dart at a world map raven probably won where it landed.

[@papalouie2719]

will never forgive descendants for kickstarting the fall of ever after high

[@dasiaosaa9109]

we were robbed

[@cathyisacat]

When I was around 4 or 5 I had an apple white shirt and one time at daycare I got a nosebleed and we had to throw out the shirt because we couldn't get the nosebleed stains out 😞

[@MichaelStrawn_I_am]

Extremely underrated video. Fantastic work! If you're interested, we should collaborate on a video sometime in the future.

[@sera._.]

Recently I was sorting out my things that had been lying around for some time, in general, in my clothes I came across the books “The School of Good and Evil.” I re-read them and they are so similar to Ever After High (⁠・⁠o⁠・⁠)

[@KatsiYori-zk5gm]

1:14:52 Wait Hunter isn't white? I knew he was a bit tan skinned I just thought since he is outside a lot that's why, from the sun,he would just been very tan from that. (I'm personally a half African American and half white boy but my skin is a lot more pale than my brothers who is a lot more dark tan skin.)

[@not_iris.]

1:06 Nooooooo 😭😭 I can’t unsee it 😭😭😭

[@Thereal_weiwuxian-ns7jt]

38:37 isn’t Milton a rebel 💀 bros literally hypocritical

[@hildachurl]

Idk if it’s because I’m in the uk, but I have all seasons on Netflix and I rewatch all the time!

[@soupsysoup]

50:20 STOOOPPP😭😭😭😭THEY DESERVE SMMMM!!!!!!

[@p3tite3bony]

bro this music

[@mintyflores7378]

Darling doesn't show up in Apple's destiny because the book is homophonic

[@Lucy_x-x-x]

I think Mattel should start working on Ever After High again especially because descendants is flopping

[@Gothiccpixie]

Two of my ever after high dolls are missing hands. One of them is missing everting other then her shoes all Goldilocks 😭 but I remember having so many more as a kid

[@delianaxoxo]

I never hated Apple tbh

[@twistedreality997]

i never understood the Apple hate, she's hated because what? because she wants her happy ending? she wants the life she was promised and destined to have? she's selfish for wanting her destiny simply because it's a good life for her, like she's selfish sure, but Raven is just as selfish. they both simply want a good life for themselves, and one needs the other for that, neither of them are wrong at all, they're both perfectly valid for their point of view.

[@lovelystolas]

Call me insane but I LOVEDDDDD APPLE!!! STILL DOOOO.

[@lxveemily]

Fine I’ll watch ever after high again 🙄

[@TheeJennie]

I just want everyone to know that I had an Apple White doll. :)

[@rocky_messed_up8455]

Did everyone and their fairyGodmother convince us as kids to through these matel dolls away because they were "werid" Regret my actions.

[@nawnaw]

As for the switched up babies at birth ,it may explain the hair color theory but what about the eye color...boththe evil queen and raven obviously have the same eye color

[@kweerKira]

Am I the only one gagged that Blondie won in Germany? Is that not a bit too on the nose💀💀

[@r0sylem0nss0da]

11:07 is that the overlapped voice with same picture that you had show it before?