The Evolution of Avenged Sevenfold's Drums

[@UOAPlays]

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[@romialamsyaalamsya9554]

What are you talking about arin man arin doesn't make feel lazy alright you can watch rock am ring and hellfest arin playing drums are good don't make me dissapoint alright and don't make me fuckin bullshit stop talking bad about arin stop man stop

[@hadifelani]

Romialamsya Alamsya does english really that hard?

[@MasYAULL]

@@hadifelani i think english is hard, i still don't know how to pronounce pick/peak/peek

[@hadifelani]

@@MasYAULL when you can differ their usage in typing it is enough tbh. you'll naturally develop the memory on how to pronounce them as you already have knowledge about their differences even when you didn't practice enough

[@moveond4500]

+1

[@leepollard1078]

I love how Mike, despite being a literal drum god himself, did his best to emulate the Revs style throughout nightmare

[@helco2856]

Yeah funny thing is mike was one of jimmy's influences.

[@teddysaja7700]

@@helco2856 right brother

[@allischalmersfanwd4566]

because rev wrote most of the parts for the nightmare album? and also did a demo on electronic drums. mike portnoy literally just played what the rev wrote.

[@Arevulis]

@@allischalmersfanwd4566 nah, the rev wrote some very basic stuff for nightmare but a lot of it is actually stuff mike portnoy came up with while trying to make it sound like something the rev would do

[@allischalmersfanwd4566]

@@Arevulis no?, the rev wrote most of the stuff for the nightmare album, mike portnoy only did a little bit of writing, the rev demoed ( the songs on they had written at the time ) on an electric kit please do more research before you reply to me again.

[@aidenwhite6348]

No one can ever truly replace the Rev but mike definitely did him justice and brooks is keeping his legacy more than alive

[@donnypatoine4475]

Brooks definitely has his own style but It's a wicked new chapter of Avenged Sevenfold

[@jaidynheadford4092]

What about Arins side of the story?

[@donnypatoine4475]

@@jaidynheadford4092 I mean he was a very clean drummer but he was nothing special. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, he played with them really well but I didn't like his drumming near as much as the revs, Mike's or brooks

[@jaidynheadford4092]

@@donnypatoine4475 that's a Completely fair point.

[@andythedrummer9642]

Brooks isn't supposed to replace him at this point, he clearly has his own style

[@nebilm8947]

Arin's tone, Mike's creativity, Brook's technique, and Rev's soul. They have to come together.

[@ishaanburyok8690]

i thought i was the only one who loved arin's tone

[@nebilm8947]

@@ishaanburyok8690 you are not alone

[@kane00000]

Dude the Rev had amazing tone. And was just a natural. They should have changed their band name. I fucking hate A7X new shit. It's pretty bad. When the Rev died the band died. At least they are still trying. Will always love those guys, just can't support their new stuff. It's not my taste, and it's not them.

[@fandimaulana6178]

I love Arin's tone haha

[@OFCjuninho]

Portnoy's creativity is absurd incredible, it is no wonder that the guy is considered to be the top 3 drummers in activity.

[@bigh9248]

If Arin couldn’t play The Rev’s and Portnoy’s parts he never would’ve gotten the gig. Just because Hail To The King is a more simple album compared to their others as far as drums are concerned , doesn’t make Arin a bad drummer.

[@andythedrummer9642]

Yep, Avenged wanted a simple sound

[@joshuamorris144]

I think that even though they wanted it to have fairly linear beats I still feel the could have been some creativity thrown in. It's very samey. Just for example the cymbal work in city of evil. Not crazy fast or give the songs an intricate feel, but it definitely would've made hail to the king better imo if there was more innovation like that

[@zachenglish309]

He wasn’t a bad drummer at all but when the songs that actually sounded like then weren’t on the album like not ready to die it does make some since

[@RegionalRadioShackManager]

He isn’t bad he is average at best

[@QuazArxx]

@Connor Cole A little more. Not a lot more. The only time he gets different is in the chorus otherwise he's making the exact same beat as practically every song in Hail to the King. He's making a simple beat over and over. They wanted to move to heavier things. They made a good move.

[@kawasaki22db]

The Rev was a legend for sure. I'm glad I got to see him play live one last time. One of my favorite songs he played in was almost easy the way he went crazy hitting the cymbal domes

[@UOAPlays]

He had a truly unique drum style that I don't think anyone can match. Brooks Wackerman (their current drummer) kind of has a similar style, but it's definitely not the same. I got to see them live a few times when they still had The Rev. Those were some great shows!

[@kawasaki22db]

@@UOAPlays I agree his style is very hard to mimic. When I played drums it was hard to play alot of the sections that he did because how technical he got

[@amien4182]

brooks hmmm ok

[@kane00000]

He was easily one of the best drummers of all time. I'd put him at #1 but I'm not a drummer. He's definitely top 5 though.

[@parcival2661]

@Kane Williams He was very good, but I’m not sure I’d put him in the top 5. He’s not quite on the level of people like Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Mike Mangini, or Marco Minnemann.

[@VOKZEL]

Brooks is so damn good. I'm sure The Rev is happy with him.

[@kpetty5577]

Brooks was one of his favorite drummers

[@royrehi3161]

Brooks so slow

[@xIRODRiiGO]

@@royrehi3161 Slow or not, he has an incredible style that fits really well into ax7 which I love, brooks is what a7x needed after the Rev

[@David-mw9jm]

All the drummers A7x had are amazing and great, but think we can all agree we still prefer the Rev

[@jval3492]

Nope , the coldblooded true is that brooks is a better drummer than the Rev . Outside stage Jimmy was more than just a drummer ...And here is the point... he was a brother , a cool as fuck character , a great composer and a gifted pianist . A7X fans miss his energy and what he represented , a legacy.

[@Chad_Thundercock_III]

@@jval3492 brooks is better, yeah because he is a bit older than jimmy. no hate. but i prefer the rev over brooks, but im completely fine with having brooks as the drummer cuz he is VERY good.

[@corbinm5237]

@Devil Goat the age argument goes much deeper than simply that “he’s better because he’s older” because if you compare artists at the same ages then you can tell whether or not they are better due to age and experience or if one artist would’ve just always been ahead of the other artist. For example,Mario Duplantier from Gojira was writing drum parts at 19-26 that were more complex and creative than anything The Rev ever did in his life. So Mario was always ahead of The Rev. But in contrast,Lars Ulrich from Metallica is in his 50’s and he never got to the level of drumming The Rev got to. I’m not saying that Brooks has always been better than The Rev or anything like that. I never listened to Bad Religion or any of the previous bands Brooks was in so I can’t really say. But I’m just saying I don’t think the age argument is as simple as the way you’re using it.

[@Chad_Thundercock_III]

@@corbinm5237 i agree to what youre saying but i think in this case it is what it now.

[@Chad_Thundercock_III]

@@corbinm5237 some learn faster than others, right?

[@mattiejoseph]

Honestly Arin wasn’t to blame for that. Matt and the others were the reason for the simplicity. Listen to Not Ready To Die for Arin being a beast.

[@richardeversmann4105]

What?? I thought not ready to die was in Nightmare album.

[@mattiejoseph]

richardo sebastianuslanur not ready to die was a single released for Call of Duty: Black Ops. It was their first track featuring Arin. He was also on Carry On, made for Black Ops 2.

[@vesuvius115]

@@mattiejoseph Ah, not ready to die, HELL YEAH, that brings me back to old CoD days and old A7X days.

[@Innawoods7614]

Preeeeach. It's the truth. I think their search for identity in those early years after the Revs death, contributed to a lack of soul and innovation in the drumming, and it seemed the group just didn't like him. "Creative differences". What does that even mean? Lol

[@FrancisHD]

Carry On too

[@juliusnisonen2431]

I like to think The Rev is writing drum tracks in heaven with Neil Peart

[@lolifartedyt2095]

Wholesome

[@official_karmastudios5413]

2 very different music genres combined. But I bet they would make it sound great

[@juliusnisonen2431]

@@official_karmastudios5413 yes, how about some progressive metalcore xD

[@i_a_m_n_o_b_o_d_y2270]

I think they can't go to heaven 🤣

[@z50king29]

Jimmy is going to teach Neil the double bass and Neil will teach Jimmy to play strange shit

[@LuigiTuazon]

To be fair. Arin Ilejay can shred on the drums especially when they played Save Me live. Also take a listen to his drums in Not Ready to Die as well as Carry On.

[@EpicSoraPwns]

Why do I feel like this video is a throwing shade at Arin? lol

[@darrelwijaya531]

Same wkwkwkw

[@eduardonovais4521]

Same

[@mr.sidecomments9278]

@Eddie Eaves as if Not Ready To Die, Carry On or anything he did pre-HTTK are interesting. Nothing special really, I'm going to bet that he still won't be able to do much even if he wasn't held back by the band

[@EpicSoraPwns]

Mr. Side Comments I completely agree that he wasn’t what Avenged Sevenfold needed as a drummer. He was not up to par, creativity wise, as the other boys. But I would’ve made the video with his more “complex “ patterns.

[@verdinurdiansyah5939]

Yea, i guess too

[@raafiramadhan2396]

The rev was not only a drummer. He’s a perfect songwriter and music arranger all of the time

[@coledurbin2610]

One of my favorite drum parts from Avenged is the drum intro in Shepherd of Fire when the drums first come in. It might be relatively simple but it kicks the song off on the right foot. Its got a tribal feel to it which I dig and it's not overly complicated

[@cvblaylock]

Brooks is the best drummer they’ve ever had. I respect the Rev but one of his heroes was Brooks. He comes from a family of drum badasses, and he himself is just on another level.

[@thejimmy8203]

I think Arin was a good for Hail to the King even though his playing is more simple the band stated they were going for a more arena oriented album with a more classic metal vibe like Metallica with the black album, its a one off they did before going back to their roots with Brooks, personally

[@KevinLuWX]

Mike despite having his own style was able to emulate The Rev quite well

[@jonahm3121]

Rev wrote the parts for the nightmare album

[@KevinLuWX]

@@jonahm3121 Rev only wrote the basic demo. The nuances and fills are still open to interpretation.

[@jonahm3121]

Kevin Lu WX I see

[@Dwdrummer1995]

You should have included Arin’s Shepard of fire drum beat. You included the Rev’s most complex drum tracks and Arin’s simplest ones.

[@julie2379]

Exactly. Seems like the person who made this video didn't like Arin at all to begin with. I mean he's no Rev but gotta give the guy credit where it's due.

[@williamrobbs]

Well, Arin made A7X kinda look bad

[@NikoJulian722]

Arin is the worst a7x drummer ever

[@clinkz5093]

Arin is a good dummer but didn't fit with a7x

[@montana85]

All of arin’s drum work for avenged sevenfold was simple. Only album he helped write was hail to the king, which was purposely made with simple drum lines to have a more radio rock sound, and to make more room for guitar work, which in a way, shows just how good of a drummer he really is

[@NotVeee]

I like how just playing this in the background, I was able to tell when The Rev portion of drumming had stopped. Such a drastic difference. It just slowly got less and less intense.

[@UOAPlays]

Yep! The drums is definitely an instrument that many people take for granted. When you have a lazy/uncreative drummer, it shows.

[@DarkMetalGlobal]

Brooks is a godly drummer too tho..

[@Dwdrummer1995]

I could tell because of the difference in the sound of the snare

[@topeka321]

and then the stage is released... brooks is just more technically capable than jimmy no doubt. but jimmy had more energy whereas you could really feel the fusion aspects within brooks playing

[@CozyKG]

@@UOAPlays Lazy like not doing enough research to know it wasn't Ilejays fault he didn't play anything more creative?

[@HaniffMohd21]

Moral of the story : always take a good care of your drummer if he wrote badass songs. The Reverend ♥️

[@UOAPlays]

Agreed! Since The Rev died, none of their drummers really feel like they're "part of the band" if that makes sense. It just feels like "some guy we pay to play drums". Not that I'm trying to insult modern day A7X, I just miss the Rev and the vibe he brought to the band because he was so involved with everything.

[@dinostsiripillosproduction4198]

@@UOAPlays well brooks definitely brought some serious drumming skills and showed them off, especially in 'the stage' but also his drum solos are sick af, im really curious about whats coming next, personally after the rev its the only time ive felt that a drummer belongs to a7x

[@Nga_Babaye]

@@UOAPlays Arin Illjey was a downgrade from the Rev in creativity for sure, but Brooks Wackermen is awesome. It took me a bit, but I do consider him part of the band. I am glad they got rid of Illjey though. He's not awful, but his style just doesn't mesh.

[@Leo2-K]

@@Nga_Babaye brooks is good but i hate his playing style he wanted to be too much complex and technical ... For me Therev is the one no so complex not too much technical but Heavy and METAL AF thats the kind of drummer i like not a PHD degree in drumming like neil ... Mike portnoy mike mingani or Brooks they wanted to be very technical and complex and it became boring i will said portnoy is not boring even though he is very complex and technical. But brooks and neil these type of PHD degree drummer are boring yess they know drum very well that dosnt meant its fun to listen listen to joey jordison Therev sulliivan or vinnie paul they are Not technical like those phd degree people but soo much fun heavy AF

[@andisaiful6464]

arin laughed at this video with coming home song

[@jeromebouchard2622]

The Rev and Brooks are the best

[@farrwell9345]

Yeah

[@maximedebeaupuis432]

Did he replace snare by a cowbell in City of Evil ? 🤣

[@sugihpratama6944]

Arin make A7X Sound like "Metallica" Black album

[@williamrobbs]

Yes!!! I FEEL LIKE IM THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THAT!!!

[@williamrobbs]

@Eddie Eaves St James was the only song where he doesn't play the simple beat

[@Kaonashimusic]

@@williamrobbs yes but his point was arin "DID NOT" make a7x sound like metallica black album, a7x themselves did

[@williamrobbs]

@@Kaonashimusic I mean, we have Enter Sandman (Shepherd of Fire), Sad But True (This Means War), The Unforgiven (Crimson Day)

[@Kaonashimusic]

@@williamrobbs yes! what i'm saying is that everyone in a7x make it sounds like metallica not "just arin"

[@e-man7143]

I didnt like Aron either however you do realize he is a badass drummer and avenged was the ones that asked him not to play anything crazy at all what so ever 😂 they didn't want people to compare him to the rev so they went a different direction. Check out his work with the band confide. He's not as bad as that album makes him sound. Although he wasn't my favorite in avenged at all lol. The Rev foREVer.

[@PmrGuitar]

I fell like he had no chance. Like thing about who had that seat right beford him. Then avenged want to do a throwback to the classic metal they grow up whit. in song writing speak. He did his job and did it well. His drum all fit the song perfectly. Go stupid crazy whit blast beat on a old school metal song. It could work yes. Anyway, dude had no chance. I fell avenged thought their were giving the kid a chance of the life time. And they were Bravo to them but, dame was the deck stack against him.

[@Soybean13]

I love how people complain about arin for being too simple and still complain about brooks for too focusing on techincal rather than energy....it's just shows that the first one always have a special place in our heart no matter how good/bad it is

[@Ezper-2099]

can you explain what people mean by technical?

[@canadianhitman9715]

This is TOTALLY my kind of music

[@NotVeee]

Lamo!

[@marcverus158]

Jimmy’s drums are so satisfying to listen to 😫

[@jaithorautocar]

i miss you jimmy the REV 😭💀foREVer❤️🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭

[@TalklessGuitarMore]

I can't imagine if Jimmy Sulivan "Rev" still live till now.. how his playthrough?

[@mikeharper1564]

u know how the BEAST drilling

[@TalklessGuitarMore]

@@mikeharper1564 😂😂😂

[@hazardgaminghg122]

He would be fucking insanely amazing. He was already insane and amazing but just imagine it now.🤘🏻🔥

[@MrKo-jl3nw]

The article that popped up means that Arin probably wanted to play something more complex, but at the time, that’s not what avenged sevenfold wanted.

[@emmittsmith482]

I remember hearing the stage for the first time, I didn’t know that Brooks was their drummer but when his bass drums came in I knew it was him instantly. His drums are SO distinct.

[@justinturner653]

As much as I love the Rev, brooks knows wtf he is doing at this point. He's got the job, sucks jimmy can't still do it but I'm glad that brooks can at least do it way more than justice...

[@jennafishy97]

Brooks is really talented and has a lot of heart. The Rev is a legend and we will always miss him but I think Brooks really keeps the legacy of Jimmy alive while also adding his own unique flair.

[@ShikyoGryfyn]

Brooks is very good, why do people say he isn’t, he isn’t the one writing the songs, he’s following the songs

[@tonyvercetti8056]

The Stage and Acid Rain wrote by Brooks right?

[@fsf2245]

Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky Team effort. But M. Shadows gave Brooks suggestions for The Stage but Brooks got it and nailed it. Just watched their breakdown of the Stage and recommend.

[@hazardgaminghg122]

@@tonyvercetti8056 Brooks wasn't in the band when Acid Rain was made. Brooks was the new drummer when The Stage came out.

[@alex_albyne]

Remember that Brooks wrote Exist, I think the most complex song that A7X have created

[@szalay83]

Because most of the people commenting have never played a drum kit in their life and really have no actual music knowledge

[@unknown-yx8mx]

Hail to the king by Arin sounds like Billie Jean song because of that simple pop-like drum beat

[@doomslayer169]

i used to play drums and that beat is really not that hard to learn

[@griffongaming4474]

The only drummer who didn't really fit Avenged's style is Arin himself, and he's not a terrible drummer by any means he just didn't fit what they wanted in a drummer

[@rob4419]

Well....no... his songwriting prowess or lack thereof was a much bigger reason for letting him go

[@aridicaexmontaudon1296]

Yeah, it doesnt matter how good you are, if you don't fit you don't fit

[@TranzparentMethods]

Brooks was great in Bad Religion "Sinister Rouge" is one of my favorite Bad Religion songs, mainly for the drums in the pre-verse. I didn't even know Brooks Wackerman was then, but he's a great fit for Avenged... The best drummer, FOR THEM, that they've had since Jimmy. Obviously Portnoy is a legend, but he didn't really fit with the band...

[@irulmadegascar7464]

let's hear the song so far away together in memory of our brother jimmy the rev sullivan

[@garrinvr]

here's my in-depth take from the video, as well as things I have learned over the years: One of the first things I noticed listening to this was that the rev's drumming sounds so "natural" his kick patterns on these tracks sound so clean and tight, yet don't sound forced or "hesitant", almost like he was part of his instrument, though the tracks from his last couple albums were tight, I did feel a slight bit of hesitation/inconsistency compared to the others, which would make a bit of sense, considering that's when his health really started to catch up with him, and the drugs/alcohol use started to dramatically increase... hearing Mike Portnoy's tracks, they sound pretty tight as well, but if you listen real close, there is a small hint of discomfort/hesitation in his playing, which is to be expected emulating another style of drumming, almost like how anybody can forge your signature, but theirs will never be a match to yours under a microscope, I personally like the nightmare album, as well as mike's drumming in DT! I mean, the endurance required to play songs sometimes being over 10 minutes long and full of polyrhythms has gotta be astronomical! I have been listening to nightmare since it came out when I was 10 years old, and have been delving deeper in recent years as I have come to realize that the album was completed in honor of the rev's career/legacy... brooks is pretty good, though I'm not all that familiar with their newer content. Arin though, he was capable of a lot more than the band gave him credit for... The rev's drumming was just really good, and there is just something about the way his playing "flows" that I've never heard in anyone else... RIP

[@grandaddyco5877]

Personally as far as talent goes, I believe that mike and brooks are far ahead, but jimmy just fit right in, and is irreplaceable.

[@justcallmefu2489]

Yups...so agree with that sir...

[@ummehabibaa5880]

jimmy and brooks are actually at same level

[@muhammadfirdaus2290]

@@ummehabibaa5880 there's no way

[@timothyswanson3529]

Why did I forget Mike drummed for AX7 for a short period of time 😑

[@002_dewan4]

You forget carry on, I'm not ready to die?

[@kane00000]

Nope!!

[@blakewalker6883]

In all honesty, my favorite thing about the Arin era of drumming was his tones on the record. When they recorded it he definitely could have been much more creative and complex, but those drum tones were incredible.

[@ayoubhaddouchi4972]

My Ranking of the Drummers. 1. The Rev 2. Brooks Wackerman 3. Mike Portnoy 4. Arin Ilejay

[@nathanlawrence656]

Whoa... you put Rev over Portnoy and Wackerman??

[@mrbenkbenk8083]

😜😜

[@sagikurland1146]

@@nathanlawrence656 of course the rev is the fucking best

[@nathanlawrence656]

I'm sure yall just saying that cos you miss the guy, but in all honesty, I thought so too, but Portnoy and Wackerman are just better drummers in general. They have much more versatility than The Rev, let's be honest. Have a listen to Dream Theater and Liquid Tension for Portnoy's work, he just completely outclasses Rev. In fact, Portnoy was one of Rev's influences. Wackerman showcased a plethora of his skills in one album with A7x, that dude is technical af, like Portnoy. The Rev was definitely a great drummer, a natural talent, he even influenced my drumming, but based on drumming skill and experience, Portnoy and Wackerman is just better. If you deny this, then you don't know drums at all, and you're just fanboying. If you're saying The Rev was the better member for A7x, then I completely agree. The Rev and the rest of the band had so much synergy and chemistry, especially in live shows, they were pretty much inseparable.

[@Magnetic5oh]

@@nathanlawrence656 rev is still better

[@JohnHenry1331]

So influential to my playing growing up. Not a day goes by that I don't air drum or play out one of his drum parts in my head. His soul lives on in their albums for sure.

[@OneTeeGlory]

The Stage was the closest thing we’ve had to The Rev but idk man, there’s still something missing about it. Maybe it’s his input on other parts of the song or maybe I’m just nostalgic but I feel like nobody can write something from scratch and sound like The Rev.

[@iamcathartic]

The stage was just a more progressive feeling album to me. I dont think something was missing really, just different. Personally i prefer Brooks on drums more, but still love everyone on this list.

[@OneTeeGlory]

DeltaShot I don’t think there’s anything missing in the music either, it was a good record. But for long time fans of both the group and The Rev, guys who listen closely and have felt the difference, something is missing. That doesn’t mean its bad music, but there definitely is a missing element.

[@iamcathartic]

@@OneTeeGlory I guess it just weird cause I generally like bands going a different direction. I think the problem is people try to act like it's because Brooks cant do what the Rev did, instead of it simply being a different drumming style.

[@OneTeeGlory]

DeltaShot Oh I have nothing against Brooks, I think he’s fantastic. What I mean by something missing is more as in a certain flavor The Rev brings to the creative process that he can’t. But I’m 100% with you, Brooks is awesome. Different style but there is zero argument the man has tons of skill.

[@mysk6977]

Maybe its the LACK of his vocals?

[@avrolcaster]

Man, you made arin sound so lame but hes really not

[@whoosher_9486]

damn arin sure is a good drummer

[@agilsyahputra3863]

Carry on. Not ready to die

[@jacfaiv]

They forgot it

[@fekcyu]

Tanjudin demong slayer

[@fekcyu]

@@jacfaiv tanjudin demong slayer

[@egiseviana7063]

At least Arin Ilejay gave us "Not Ready to Die" as his best drum track for A7X 😂😂😂

[@Steveh216]

No “Coming Home” was.

[@mohammadnurarifin3066]

Egi Seviana and also sheperd of fire and carry on

[@fiction1249]

Brooks is definitely the best possible successor to Jimmy.

[@daniarsyahari7]

The rev always forever and no change in my heart.

[@guthierrylopes3323]

hahahaha someone didn't like Arin at all, am I right? xD

[@traversschultz1316]

Dude I literally died during this video😂😂😂

[@Kaonashimusic]

in term of technicality brooks is by far the best drummer but in the terms of songwriting the rev is the best. i felt like arin was left unappreciated cause how the band want's arin to play became "this is the best arin could do" which is false and he did his job.

[@KevinLuWX]

Portnoy is probably the best in terms of songwriting, but he was just mostly following The Rev's demo in nightmare.

[@irulmadegascar7464]

jimmy the rev sulivan remains in the heart, and for avenged sevenfold fans, don't forget who created the A7X, the rev sullivan

[@PmrGuitar]

Alright mad respect to the rev and you comment pretty on point. But the rev didn't created A7X, I understand you mean he made the band in a sense. sure but he didnt created avenged. Matt and Zacky created avenged and both the rev and syn turn them down at frist. Cause they were bad appreally.

[@zeroth88]

This was a really cool vid! I will say that Arin got shafted with the parts he had during his brief stint in A7X. He’s an incredible drummer, but unfortunately most people don’t know that because of the direction the band went for that one album.

[@shawntholo777asmr9]

A thing I had noticed about The Rev’s style of drumming is that he is simple yet doesn’t over kill a beat which makes it heavy and groovy at the same time. Arins drumming is very stripped and too simple but that’s what Avenged wanted at that time. Brooks is very very complex and sometimes I miss the simplicity of drumming that old avenged sevenfold had. I love them all and they added character to A7X. I can’t wait to see what they do next.

[@ohptazzz8733]

1st- The Rev 2nd- Portnoy 3rd- Brooks 4th- the creature

[@SoundRayStudio1]

Should have used "Carry on" to showcase arin.

[@jacobwilson7030]

The song writing since Rev passed has gone down the shitter. He was obviously a great drummer but his loss was definitely felt more in the actual song writing than just the drums.

[@NUKCYNDv]

Not at all man, listen to The Stage(Album), Mad Hatter, and even some songs of HTTK like Acid Rain, Crimson Day and Planets, etc. They still have an incredible songwriting, even more mature now; but of course, we miss Jimmy and his ideas.

[@realAdamClinch]

Forgot the bridge in Demons

[@conduitsoul2228]

The rev held this bands soul in his hands. When he passed sadly the music seems to have gone with him. Nightmare was the last album I truly enjoyed. Not for a lack of trying. I want to enjoy their new stuff it’s just not the same at all

[@scale8125]

Okay yes, Arin only knew one drum beat but he played his heart out.

[@RandomHeroSpotting]

I guess a special mention to The Rev for his drum arrangements on Nightmare, his demo of that song gives me the chills! Fiction is extremely difficult to listen to!

[@DraculAdit]

Fiction is something. Its bad but good at the same time.

[@drummerdrei]

Arin is a great drummer, listen to his stuff with Islander

[@fineartonfire_5327]

Hahahahaha!!! We can plainly here he SUCKS, right here!! And so does Brooks. Just NOT quite as bad!!! Mike was the only one even close to the Rev!!

[@drummerdrei]

@@fineartonfire_5327 k

[@xerayer]

@@fineartonfire_5327 if u think Brooks sucks, dude... U're just dumb, ffs

[@kripticjazz]

James Brown you’re an idiot if you think brooks is a bad drummer

[@NewFoundLove]

A7X what could have been if the rev was still here.

[@fastfiddler1625]

I'm not sure what they were thinking bringing on Arin in the first place. Jimmy was special because every single track he played was unique and interesting. I could hear just the drum part from most of their early songs and tell you what it was. Arin sounded like level 1 at Drumeo. For some bands, that's what the sound calls for. I think Brooks was a great new direction.

[@cryslowly]

You obviously haven’t seen arin play live with the band , he played all the older stuff perfectly with no problem

[@koalaband7246]

The thing that made the rev so special was his creativity, I mean if you listen to some of the things he does, it's not just normal beats and stuff, he didnt USE the drums, he really PLAYED the drums.

[@sylvainmaisonneuve6153]

By the way nightmare album des Wright by the rev and almost recorded all by the rev so its not mikes work ! I respect the guy tho like he is a legend !!

[@knifemasta3787]

Yup the drum part was written by the Rev but it was rerecorded by mike

[@argoperdana6823]

Brooks is the best thing that happened to A7X after quite some time. Jimmy will always be everyone's favorite including mine too, but I do feel really thankful for what Brooks has brought to the band.

[@84Punkmonkey]

I'm still a little sad that Brooks left Bad Religion. Best drummer they ever had. Seen him play live with both bands.

[@84Punkmonkey]

@@HughWanztino Of coarse he made the correct choice. I like Avenged Sevenfold. I LOVE Bad Religion, but at the end of the day, Brooks has been very open about wanting to do metal years before the switch, and he deserves to pursue his own dreams, without regard to public opinion. That's my view on it.

[@VOKZEL]

Arin was simple because the band agreed to be simple for Hail To The King. I'm not sure if Arin performed in the COD Zombies songs but it shows off his skill in those songs pretty well.

[@peytonstallings1170]

you gotta understand that at the time arin was in the band a7x basically turned into a metallica cover band. his drumming fit the music they were making at that time. he’s actually a pretty good drummer

[@cryslowly]

Exactly , and all these idiots in the comments saying he sucks

[@azmiulul3124]

Who miss him? #therev

[@WilzeyLad]

Godly: The Rev (1981 - 2009) Amazing: Brooks Wackerman Amazing: Mike Portnoy Good: Arin Ilejay

[@WilzeyLad]

@I'm A Human i dont agree sorry

[@Lyendith]

It's interesting that The Rev himself was gradually starting to simplify his drumming in his last two albums. In Nightmare especially, the parts were still technical but more… organized?

[@brunomantovaneli6076]

I loved Brooks' drumming on Bad Religion. How good is his work on A7X? I don't really listen to this band

[@jangles1839]

Listen to The Stage (song) and your question will definitely be answered in the first couple minutes

[@khrawborlangsyiemlieh4536]

Brook is just wow... Best drummer alive

[@andimuhammadrafly]

The rev

[@johnnybigmac5756]

Man there's actually more of Brooks' style in Jimmy's playing than I originally thought

[@mikeharper1564]

mike portnoy!! ❤️

[@aleksandarradovanovic8496]

Arin is amazing drummer and could play all of Rev's and Mike's songs live with ease.

[@andriosborn391]

i trust brooks wackerman fit for a7x I've been enjoyed Bad Religion for long time. and brooks is good as fuck. i remember when he performed with blink182 a long time ago. i think brooks is right person. Rev and brooks has same soul. that they're two are enjoying punk rock

[@dagurkarl1587]

the 2010 where portnoy played it was still most of jimmy's beats

[@Xholeda]

hail to the king drum tracks = sleep medicine for metal drummers

[@robotic7335]

Brook’s is the best replacement drummer a7x will ever have

[@AbrahaM3423]

Shepherd of fire was good, one of best Arins drumming

[@Iceypatek]

all are great drummers but the rev was something else 1:00 🔥

[@Sterling8856]

I really appreciate Brooks man. He's got a ton of skill, his style somewhat reminds of something like Ray Luzier meets Mike Portnoy lol

[@blopblop333]

People need to get off Arin's back. His drums sounded simple but if that's what the songs called for it makes sense. Plus, Hail to the King is by far their worst album, other than the guitar on a few songs it's pretty damn forgettable.

[@hyagooliveira823]

When you wrote "Hail to the King" i read "The Stage", funny

[@blopblop333]

@@hyagooliveira823 The State isn't their best lyrically, but I enjoy the music more than Hail to the King. It's unfortunate, but it's obvious Rev was a BIG part of what made them special.

[@SilkandScrooge]

I look at hail to the king as a tribute to their inspirations. I actually liked every song on the album which I actually can't say about any of their other albums. It's very listenable. Might not have been as mind blowing as the older stuff but it felt like a delicious treat to me. You ever write a riff and realize there's already one kind of like it? I believe Synyster had tons and he crafted it into hail to the king. Was a little unfair to do to Arin tho.

[@blopblop333]

@@SilkandScrooge Fair enough. I think the White Album is damn near perfect...except Little Piece of Heaven...I'm not a Hot Topic kid so the Tim Burton feel does nothing for me. Nightmare and COE are pretty damn awesome too all the way through in my opinion, but White Album was their peak as far as I'm concerned.

[@SilkandScrooge]

@@blopblop333 I feel you. I like every song on the self titled except unbound. I even like Lost which is a shame they never have played live unfortunately. I appreciate little piece of heaven for how off the wall it is. Adds to how many flavors that album has. Plus it was a crazy Jimmy song. A song just as wacky as him lol

[@muanawmihmar7451]

The rev is still my favourite🤘

[@woodilicious722]

Avenged Sevenfold wouldn’t be nearly where they are today without Jimmy, but as far as raw talent goes Brooks is irreplaceable. I’m definitely gonna get flamed but it’s not even a close comparison.

[@AviationTV]

The Rev did far more albums than I originally thought

[@stevenklingler9376]

REV, possibly the greatest rock drummer of all time!

[@Cheezumz002]

Matt has said that they told Arin to slow down. Everyone knows that lol If they weren’t happy they wouldn’t have used his parts.

[@nanangirawan9818]

arin was playing in the a7x genre at the time and everything blended perfectly

[@TheCompleteConfusion]

I know I’m four years late. But you have to give Erin a break. Then and asked him to play the album that way. They only really have him creative freedom for carry on

[@eyeless9882]

I can not believe they decided it was a good idea to actually release an album with arin

[@paradigmshiftz7]

This M.I.A. drum track is just so wrong on so many levels

[@xClintBeastwood]

Fun Fact: Brooks Wackerman's niece was a contestant on American Idol this season and made it quite far.