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@jhoubim5 жыл бұрын
Where i found this track?
@andrewperu14715 жыл бұрын
Do a vid with timothy molloy from our last night band🔥🔥
@batmanwayne51595 жыл бұрын
I think they’re both good, My personal opinion, I would do the simplistic part with Brooks Trashy Cymbals to give it more power.
@Azaezlle4 жыл бұрын
I like the complex one better. I wish the guitars and bass had been cut lower though so we could more clearly hear the drums.
@zeemeerjin96194 жыл бұрын
Where do you find these tracks?
@stevenwilliams91085 жыл бұрын
Brooks Wackerman: *Moves wrist one time* *12 hits are clearly audible*
@inzukad26945 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@billiejoeeyelash5 жыл бұрын
Nothing can ever replace the Rev but he will do. RIP
@way2sh0rt07grad5 жыл бұрын
Killjøy Clique he’s got that same style by playing off beat clean rhythms
@Glowstick485 жыл бұрын
Pure talent and a lifetime of practice dudes a true master of the instrument
@joelguzman92805 жыл бұрын
@@billiejoeeyelash hes not replacing hes simply tag teaming in while the rev rests
@nrchrist5 жыл бұрын
Combo of both. There were simple pieces that fit way better and complex parts that grooved better
@valentinpau14345 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@squilly65 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@Xyncx5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. There are always parts where what the guitarist is doing is more important than what the drummer is doing. Each person knowing when they should come in with something more complex or simple is what makes or breaks a band's sound. If every one is just doing super complex, highly technical stuff all at once, it's hard to pay attention to what's going on, which ultimately detracts from the overall sound of the song.
@beccaortiz90295 жыл бұрын
Can't agree more!
@dantas65195 жыл бұрын
True
@benhemsworth85555 жыл бұрын
They’re essentially different but equal. Making the drums complex shifts the focus to the drums, while keeping it simple puts the emphasis on the guitar work and bass. So it just depends on what part is being done.
@bipbipletucha5 жыл бұрын
Ye
@deductivereasoning42575 жыл бұрын
I liked both. Then again, I like progressive metal. I like the simple beat, then the complex one. Then, I like a different simple beat and a different complex one. It kept progressing. All that was missing was 5 minutes of guitar noodling...
@uncommoneditor99165 жыл бұрын
Really
@TheLightweaver7775 жыл бұрын
Also, the simple beats don't change the feel of a riff nearly as much as a complex drum pattern will.
@sczarface5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Both sound great in their own respect.
@rafaelklitschko40854 жыл бұрын
Basically, Hail to the King vs. The Stage
@zoda7614 жыл бұрын
Unrated comment, you deserve thousand likes
@idhamnnn4 жыл бұрын
Arin > brook
@wirawhyra4 жыл бұрын
@@idhamnnn no
@mattfetzer4 жыл бұрын
@@idhamnnn soft disagree
@idhamnnn4 жыл бұрын
Eyyy eyyy ..i need power ..not modification
@hotdogslayer44305 жыл бұрын
How about next is Simple vs Complex Guitar (ft. Synyster Gates) Hahaha
@CaptMusicMan5 жыл бұрын
that would be my birthday
@jayknott87145 жыл бұрын
Yes
@justdream20635 жыл бұрын
This would be just awesome!
@harshroy51655 жыл бұрын
Got him
@FelipeOliveira-yb6ip5 жыл бұрын
Perfect idea
@GuitarsRockForever5 жыл бұрын
Both. Some parts needs simple, some sound better with complex.
@giannispaterakis29915 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@SynthApprentice5 жыл бұрын
As a musician, your priority is to do justice to the track. Drumnastics aren't always appropriate.
@schprox5 жыл бұрын
So basically it needs balance
@treatabledisease32585 жыл бұрын
How Switzerland of you
@vadimmihaidarov70565 жыл бұрын
I'm from Russia, and it's hard to say to me. My English is not very impressive, but you expressed my opinion. Thank you)
@CameronFleury5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the musical application. Both can work. And holy shit Brooks Wackerman \M/
@ammarD5 жыл бұрын
This.
@royalcat105 жыл бұрын
I've always felt that simple vs complexity comes down to what the song is intended to do. If it's intended to just make you want to move, simplicity is where it's at. I mean, just a basic four on the floor beat works wonders in just making someone tap their foot, or bob their head, or move in any way. I guess that's why pop music tends to be simple, it's just meant to dance to. But music that is meant to be *listened* to is when you want complexity. The music that makes you have to think about what you're hearing. Neither is inherently worse than the other, they just have different applications. Obviously, it's possible to combine these with the right mind set / skill, but just as a generalization.
@yanbar34335 жыл бұрын
Next up: Animals as Leaders song with some standard Rock drums and some Rock song with Animals as Leaders style drums. Woud be funny to hear and would really give you an example of what the drum beat does to the music.
@rudowakening36385 жыл бұрын
Brooks is the man! His brother Chad might be even better
@sharcotics5 жыл бұрын
Brooks Wackerman was the drummer for Bad Religion, a band that A7X has admitted to listening to a lot and taking some influence from OFC he kicks some ass
@shquefferyjonesbonesiii79434 жыл бұрын
Brooks does a really good job making the drums sound and feel like a real instrument used for more than just keeping time. His playing just adds a layer of taste.
@ExternusArmy Жыл бұрын
It’s very melodic and musical. It’s not just rhythms but playing with the sounds and tones to create what are essentially melodies.
@sloth_e5 жыл бұрын
This vid is a great example of how mixing it up is best. Basic had so much impact after complex. And complex becomes so interesting after some basic . Balance is key.
@Adrimartja5 жыл бұрын
truer words have never been spoken.
@williamriley4625 жыл бұрын
I have to agree 100%!
@grifballa5 жыл бұрын
Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.
@LeandroOlavarria5 жыл бұрын
Best coment (y)
@LightningTheRaiden985 жыл бұрын
hell yeah. never could have said it better
@kaoquinn5 жыл бұрын
A mixture of both LOL there were parts in the simple that I liked and parts in the complicated that I liked.
@fantomagnik5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this sums it up perfectly tbh
@lilyrecords75215 жыл бұрын
Yea I think a mixture of both is the better than one of them only
@Vanessa-iw9ei5 жыл бұрын
Yess, exactly
@nicholai4145 жыл бұрын
I think that a mix gives the track the feel of breathing. The Simple lets the guitars shine and the Complex brings an energy and sense of urgency to ths mix. Very well done.
@jodyshortland98755 жыл бұрын
Kevin O'Quinn agreed!! With the some of the transitions from complex to tech and vice versa there were moments where it felt natural to go in that direction. What i did like about both was the change in tempo and both had breaks and fills that built it up and brung it down to headbang along to 🤘 great work from both!! 🥁
@thebasketballhistorian32915 жыл бұрын
I liked the simple one for keeping the main flow of the song. The complex one was better for transitions, the bridge, and the ending.
@michaelhodges64935 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. As a drummer myself I follow a rule of k.i.s.s. keep it simple stupid.
@brianlovebear5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@menedon95995 жыл бұрын
Yeah agree too.
@janobpl5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to write!
@ssfguitar5 жыл бұрын
Musician's in general have to remember to make everything not so busy. Space is always a must.
@Fraggr923 жыл бұрын
It's not so much about which is "better", it's about knowing how to do both and more importantly WHEN to do both. There's a time for simplicity and a time for complexity.
@tuievans3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@nathanwhiting54753 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This also applies to basically every instrument.
@vulna91503 жыл бұрын
Well said x2
@mquin21123 жыл бұрын
Someone did a video comparing Ringo Starr's drumming which in itself was "simple" but how he knew exactly how to make it fit the song vs complexity and how it can take away from it. Knowing the difference is what makes a good drummer great.
@hadifelani2 жыл бұрын
exactly, by having the simple one come first before the complex one, it made the song sounds fuller and if we didn't pay attention to the video it does sounds like a proper transition as a single music instead of a comparison
@ignaciooo___5 жыл бұрын
Next video: "Jared Dines Playing with Avenged Sevenfold" Next next video: "More details about Jared Dines and Matt Heafy Breakup"
@ilkrsrc0815 жыл бұрын
you meant matt shadows? lol
@Adnonnymous5 жыл бұрын
@@ilkrsrc081 no, he did a lot of videos with Matt Heafy from trivium a while back
@nWoandDX4life5 жыл бұрын
He even played with Trivium during their european tour.
@drew95845 жыл бұрын
It must have been matts new signature double strap..... Because nothing is more metal than saying im a bigger pussy than anyone else has been over the lifetime of the electric guitar... Guitarists are such pussies. Bitch pick up an ernie ball, play for an hour and tell me your cute little less paul is "too heavy".
@iniquity75 жыл бұрын
@@drew9584 wtf are u even ranting about, u came up with this whole scenario in ur head, Jesus Christ. What are u ranting about no one even brought up any point in ur rant at all lol. U must have been holding that in for so long it finally exploded haha. PS I Love heavy guitars because they sound thicker and fuller
@CardboardSliver5 жыл бұрын
The complex sounds awesome, but the simple one flowed perfectly with the music
@thiendipham8355 жыл бұрын
Cardboard Silver it’s fit with the track as well :D
@niccololuciani67015 жыл бұрын
That' s why is trivial
@nicvv48535 жыл бұрын
This
@electricant555 жыл бұрын
Simple flows with the music but the music flows with the complex
@TheDwarburton5 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the complex is to not only flow with the music but to add it's own properties. Complex is great if it's done correctly, otherwise it'll just sound like it doesn't fit, or it'll take attention away from other elements of the song
@SlapMyBass38255 жыл бұрын
I love how casual these interactions are. “So I am jamming with the drummer from A7X, no big deal.”
@Yigzdrums5 жыл бұрын
Rev and brooks come back and do a dual drum battle with dines. Itd be so sickkk
@shayanmoosavi91395 жыл бұрын
@@Yigzdrums rev is dead :(
@jakerochelle5 жыл бұрын
Deck O'Donnel rev has been dead for like ten years. Wym
@luigialexander37815 жыл бұрын
@@jakerochelle He is not dead he is just in the woods
@joefrayling92635 жыл бұрын
@@luigialexander3781 true and when he comes back he gunna be the knife master
@hoshikiraa91934 жыл бұрын
Let's just pray Brooks never gonna leave A7X...
@shootthemessengerband4 жыл бұрын
For real. Brooks has a great playing style for a7x
@dkd76704 жыл бұрын
@@ripvanwinkle1639 Imagine both of them playing together. If they dont, we riot
@goncalobaia15744 жыл бұрын
@@dkd7670 unless they divide parts that wouldn't be a good idea
@AshleyAllysia3 жыл бұрын
im sorry. im from the future and i have a bad news to tell you man
@hoshikiraa91933 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyAllysia dang it
@jesusmallen3975 жыл бұрын
Next simple vs complex guitars ft Synyster Gates 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@squad-wh4ig5 жыл бұрын
Yes for reall
@wilddogv2.0825 жыл бұрын
Facts
@soumeshkarmakar47455 жыл бұрын
fuck yeah
@robnavarro46175 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jantisafernando5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i like this one...
@natemiller32804 жыл бұрын
Ok I’m gonna be the one to say it, there was no “age old question” for simplicity or complexity, he just wanted to do a video with Brooks Wackerman
@levibeam1004 жыл бұрын
It is though. Simplicity vs Technicality has always been an argument.
@gustavodelacruz6464 жыл бұрын
@@levibeam100 i think a mixture of both can do wonders for a song, you can amplify a section of a song that needs it and keep it simple for parts that are good enough on their own
@chewypilot56394 жыл бұрын
Not entirely true, sometimes over complicating it makes it sounds worse or takes away from the song
@hazardgaminghg1224 жыл бұрын
@@Xxfishman058xX_chad Well he did.
@nicknolder70424 жыл бұрын
Sometimes less is more, sometimes more is more, it depend on the context
@alfonsoturco16975 жыл бұрын
Brooks: OK, when can I start the complex part? Jared: what? You already played it. Brooks: I was warming up dude
@jrmcrlmorales5 жыл бұрын
I really love how he also has that The Rev vibe of making it look so easy.
@micke9895 жыл бұрын
So true
@rzrjf_20635 жыл бұрын
Oh oh someone's in trouble
@plasfariablarkaanisa96405 жыл бұрын
@@jrmcrlmorales He makes it look ALMOST EASY. Sorry I will leave now.
@afmartins6665 жыл бұрын
The Ravi Shankar effect.
@matthewkoeppel87424 жыл бұрын
Versatility and the proper use of both “simple” and “complex styles I think is what’s most important. Some of Jared’s style at the right moments absolutely drove the rhythm and made it sound so much tighter and connected, while Brooks complexity during fills or transitions played into the melody and rhythms of the guitar and made the song sound so much more technically advanced
@d-a-e5 жыл бұрын
Drummer’s Goal: To start off playing simple then catch everyone off guard by doing complex shit. Respect is earned as such
@jeffbell44345 жыл бұрын
Lol that's kind of exactly what I always do when showing off in front of a group of people.
@theflyingcrud5 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. I think it sounds really good too.
@SynthApprentice5 жыл бұрын
The respect of other drummers, maybe, but maybe not the respect of your band mates.
@matthewd63065 жыл бұрын
Even better write complex Drum parts that don't rely on straight double bass and fills. Incorporate Jazz High hat parts, polyrythms, and african tom beats. Bonus if you can play rudiments on bass drum instead of the typical metal double bass.
@theflyingcrud5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewd6306 Both ways are fine. I like playing both simple and more complex drum parts. Most important to play to the song. Personally, I typically only use double bass for fills or extra flavor
@joefromaccounting78184 жыл бұрын
With a name like Brooks Wackerman, he was DESTINED to be a drummer
@randomuser-vs3oe4 жыл бұрын
all of his brothers and father are also drummers, making him even more destined.
@dasbrando45704 жыл бұрын
How do you play drums? "Whack er, man"
@moderusprime4 жыл бұрын
Or a gardener.
@drummerboyarnold31744 жыл бұрын
Even a Ninja What are you saying 😂😂😂
@jc3drums9164 жыл бұрын
@@randomuser-vs3oe Two of three brothers are drummers. One is a bassist.
@MarktheAirsoftPrimate5 жыл бұрын
Holy poops. Brooks timing and rhythm are just other worldly. Both work, in certain parts complex was too much, simple was not enough, either way this is awesome.
@krisgardner71605 жыл бұрын
Brooks was a good fit for a7x because he and the Rev both have a kinda non conventional approach to their rhythms but Brooks and Jimmy are still booth totally unique
@michaelhodges64935 жыл бұрын
A good transition back and forth from simple to complex would of really been insane. I prefer to keep things simple though
@MrCole585 жыл бұрын
Somewhere right in the middle, flair is good in moderation and it makes things interesting , but too much can take away from that essential rhythmic foundation. The simple drumming had a very easily identifiable pulse, but it can get boring pretty quick. A combination of the two would be interesting while still retaining utility.
@dylanlapenna85135 жыл бұрын
You should KZbin search Terry Bozzio. Honestly he makes Neil Peart from Rush look like a chump.
@LilyRose-rp5dm4 жыл бұрын
As much as I like Brooks Wackerman. Let's all have a moment of silence for Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan. Rest in peace my guy.
@jrowland67174 жыл бұрын
You can't beat the drumlines from Beast and the Harlot.. You just can't.. 😪
@LilyRose-rp5dm4 жыл бұрын
@@jrowland6717 City of evil itself is just too good to beat.
@mariouz3134 жыл бұрын
@@LilyRose-rp5dm the stage is just as good guys
@theritzerclub8734 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. 😢😢
@Soybean134 жыл бұрын
What?? Respect to my man jimmy but drum line in the beast & the harlot is a generic double bass drumline...the stage is a7x most techincal album they ever released. Skill wise brooks is way better than jimmy, but i always choose jimmy over brooks not because the skill but the emotional attachment
@AanKhunaifi5 жыл бұрын
next up Simple vs Complex Clarinet ft. Squidward
@mgakas5 жыл бұрын
and rob scallon as well
@aldyhardian64335 жыл бұрын
Taii wkw
@shaneleclaire69125 жыл бұрын
Aan Khunaifi squidbob
@ryseszn_5 жыл бұрын
Wanjer:v
@bmartin43205 жыл бұрын
Feat Kelpy G
@jeffreydhill5 жыл бұрын
My answer to the question of simple or complex is: “Yes.”
@kagwaiverqrst22485 жыл бұрын
Too complex
@corbinholmes37525 жыл бұрын
@@kagwaiverqrst2248 Yet...too simple? XP
@alexschemm3485 жыл бұрын
r/inclusiveor
@luizcsf15 жыл бұрын
Complex is better, but..... This riffs and melody asked for a simple drumming.
@MrJonne20005 жыл бұрын
Mostly felt the same, but some parts were nicer with the complexity involved. So it's all about if the song is suited for complexity or not and kinda why this video makes a fairly poor point tbh
@monolithworldline5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@monolithworldline5 жыл бұрын
The riffage in here is level 1 crook
@rakaprariga12975 жыл бұрын
I agree dude
@genesyspron505 жыл бұрын
Simple drums are the best for this song here
@Sobitachi3 жыл бұрын
2:57 that double bass combined with choking cymbals...🔥🔥
@nathanlawrence6563 жыл бұрын
It sounds sweeter because his kicks are so solid
@Sobitachi2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlawrence656 it's Brooks we r talking about man!
@WSlopeAggie2 жыл бұрын
@@Sobitachi The king of punk and now a destroyer of prog. What can't this man do? And yes, he is the KING of punk. Above Barker. Barker's amazing too, but Brooks somehow manages to play perfectly clean like a drum machine while maintaining groove. There's no weirdness.
@Sobitachi Жыл бұрын
@@WSlopeAggie Brooks is technically so advanced.. the wrist control and everything is just perfect..
@camilogonzalez57285 жыл бұрын
I like both styles. Some songs sounds better simple, others works better with complex techniques. But if it's A7X songs I choose complexity.
@emanueltorres35605 жыл бұрын
I also like their use of contra melody at slow but also when then it picks up quickly and its still melody and a contra melody and then when drums are just equally as complex it's just an eargasm a lot times I don't even think how are they doing that I just sit back and enjoy.
@jackd.955 жыл бұрын
I know a7x was trying to find that perfect sound that they got from Jimmy for a long time and they've found it with brooks
@enragedmoosemedia5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Brooks fits so perfectly. Still miss the rev though. Miss his vocals and creativity.
@stonertheespeon29755 жыл бұрын
Jimmy also sang vocals and played a various amount of instruments. He also wrote some of their best songs. I may miss him dearly because he was taken from us so early but I'm happy they found Brooks, The dude's a beast!
@josephotto48165 жыл бұрын
Saw them shortly after Brooks joined, and I was floored. He’s doing a stellar job and his sound meshes so well
@blakeunderwood10755 жыл бұрын
No love for Mike Portnoy?
@MrEwan135 жыл бұрын
@@blakeunderwood1075 tbh portnoy would fits really well with a7x, brooks were okay,but portnoy on nightmare album for me was much better than brooks on their latest album. just my opinion though
@drums_and_beer5 жыл бұрын
Combine those two together and you basically have a Dream Theater song
@Gyrossteeltesticles245 жыл бұрын
Rather coincidental since Portnoy played on Nightmare
@jamesdong81795 жыл бұрын
Or at least the drum track, but yea
@Cobalt9855 жыл бұрын
Haha, exactly what I was thinking. Portnoy has always been amazing at combining complex parts with simpler parts to form a more complete whole.
@chriskrausesmovie5 жыл бұрын
Jared theater
@WillMaskellTaylor5 жыл бұрын
More like Oceans ate alaska or something
@D-Man_Jam4 жыл бұрын
That's simple? I thought when you said "simple" you were talkin' AC/DC 'simple'.
@michaelcoknballs47574 жыл бұрын
lars simpol
@UhOh_ItzJDX4 жыл бұрын
well then it’d just be boring, that double bass does wonders
@bassandbaits2874 жыл бұрын
Simple is different than basic because no disrespect to AC/DC but they use a simple rock beat
@zackstump54253 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@corruptedstudiosentertainm34553 жыл бұрын
@@SenorSeiryuu I think you're seriously underestimating how much harder that process was in those days. Things you can throw together in a DAW in thirty minutes could sometimes take three or four days. It just wasn't viable when you could mic things up and play and get the whole song recorded in a day or two rather than one section of a drum loop in three or four.
@echoesreflected82435 жыл бұрын
Shred wars with Synyster Gates next please!!!
@rhysguitar34114 жыл бұрын
OH my yes.
@trollmaster3335 жыл бұрын
Ask Syn to take part in 2019's biggest shred collab
@JustCarMuh5 жыл бұрын
Syn alone would demolish everyone else
@benmacdonald54455 жыл бұрын
Slxxpy Kxrma Except Angel Vivaldi. You don’t beat Angel Vivaldi.
@zenzookyouka5 жыл бұрын
@Ashish Gupta Synyster Gates - A7x's main guitarist
@ZackTheNever5 жыл бұрын
I 1000% agree with this
@zaidaljundi34625 жыл бұрын
Have him get zacky as well and they can play together at the same time
@BasicMacik5 жыл бұрын
Simple sounded best for easycore/metalcore. Complex was real proggy/groovy
@es0teric765 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Exactly what I was thinking
@silentechotwd48685 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I liked elements of the complex, but could only take a song or two before needing a breather. The simple is a good constant head banger that I would feel fine listening to for hours on end.
@nostrum72785 жыл бұрын
Tbh I gave points to each beat, and it came 4-5 in prefernce and this kinda says that its good to have some fills and complex beats besides a simple catchy beat.
@KuroShiiiiro5 жыл бұрын
Nick Macik Brooks is a great groovy drummer and A7x's music sounds great because of it, man ..
@millerhxc5 жыл бұрын
Exactly... although this now begs the question: Which genre is better????
@andikardian90144 жыл бұрын
Brook's style is much proggy than the simple one, and i love prog metal.
@jacobhumphrey35354 жыл бұрын
I was the same thing. Has a lot of Brann Dailor from Mastodon vibes.
@zackstump54253 жыл бұрын
Listen to rush
@woodenhoe3 жыл бұрын
Listen to Liquid Tension
@jasondornford53173 жыл бұрын
@@woodenhoe listen to Porcupine Tree
@aidanl56115 жыл бұрын
next update video "Hi guys, just a quick update. my good friend brooks from A7X has asked me to tour with them."
@undeadfbgew5 жыл бұрын
aidan l - omg imagine 🥰
@laneneece88155 жыл бұрын
Jared: did you guys enjoy the complex fills or the simple fills more Me: yes And were is the djent 2019 with Stevie And shred wars with gates
@skylargibson85995 жыл бұрын
Lane Neece as much as I love Jared Gates would massacre him
@laneneece88155 жыл бұрын
Skylar Gibson true but it would be fun
@sideslick10245 жыл бұрын
It almost sound to me like Brooks' parts are acting like the drum fills to your (relatively) basic riding. They compliment each other very well. I'd love to hear full songs with each style, rather than the back-and-forth that this video provides.
@axelenglish29225 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@paeden54314 жыл бұрын
Me too
@dbo45064 жыл бұрын
Plus 1
@lewy_g_official2 жыл бұрын
What Brooks was doing wasn't just complex, but incredibly creative and that's what a lot of people look over.
@JacobC4796 ай бұрын
Exactly, people think complex usually just means fast and hard. Sometimes you hear something that isn’t necessarily expert level but the creativeness of it and the way it switches the sound is just incredible.
@singningwongho5 жыл бұрын
Jared, You're solid. Brooks, is amazing. Brooks' drumming on The Stage album is mind-blowing.
@xforever9234 жыл бұрын
I know! God damn is one of the best songs ever
@hazardgaminghg1224 жыл бұрын
@@xforever923 the drums on that song are crazy.
@monzxsa4 жыл бұрын
HazardGamingHG its not, but ok
@singningwongho4 жыл бұрын
@@monzxsa So you're a percussionist now?
@monzxsa4 жыл бұрын
singningwongho what was i before?
@midenking96515 жыл бұрын
A blend of both! Knowing when to spunk your load and when not too is what creates amazing drum tracks.
@MrToco325 жыл бұрын
Truth
@Cole-uz4xi5 жыл бұрын
That's what makes Wackerman such a great drummer, in my opinion
@Kat-yv5ye5 жыл бұрын
First of all, how the fuCk did you get Brooks to play in your bideo Second, i honestly go for the simple version
@MrMcHoonter5 жыл бұрын
Mason Sanderson actually A7X has switched to prog so complex still definitely fits them
@ZRisyad4 жыл бұрын
With Jared's drumming sounded like Killswitch Engage song, Brook's sounded like Tool song
@aidanbarclay74373 жыл бұрын
Literlly my exact thoughts
@miggytiamzon20765 жыл бұрын
Brooks: yeah, this is my "simple."
@Julien8695 жыл бұрын
He was like "Wait, I thought you asked ME to do the simple parts."
@wishnewsky5 жыл бұрын
This mash-up of simple and complex is actually the best IMO
@spudmagnum73945 жыл бұрын
Depends on what the song calls for! Something like this benefits from simple stuff but a more progressive band obviously benefits from the complex, creative drum parts
@MrErikwade5 жыл бұрын
Spud Magnum..... agreed. Like this tune with the simple stuff better...
@ItsSvetsi4 жыл бұрын
"How close do you want the snare mic, Jared" "Yes."
@petterihorn5 жыл бұрын
Sick drumming by Brooks, but the song was all screaming for simple drumming.
@thetalentedmrrapley5 жыл бұрын
The best drummers utilise both. But as a drummer I have to love the complex. 4:33 is perfection
@goodvibesonly20805 жыл бұрын
Adam Rapley fortnite suckksssssss
@mototoad12425 жыл бұрын
@@goodvibesonly2080 Whitechapel suckkkssss.
@goodvibesonly20805 жыл бұрын
shenaniganz krew 22 at least it ain’t gay
@goodvibesonly20805 жыл бұрын
shenaniganz krew 22 and you 100% are on the wrong channel to hate whitechapel
@thetalentedmrrapley5 жыл бұрын
@@goodvibesonly2080 yep
@theheritic2095 жыл бұрын
Obviously the last name Wackerman bestows drum powers on whoever has it. Cause Chad Wackerman is crazy too.
@danepresley78515 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure one of them was Holdsworths drummer
@theheritic2095 жыл бұрын
Dane Presley oh u know ur fusion. and that was Chad.
@truthhelps20125 жыл бұрын
Zappa too. The the list is actually very long for Brooks, Chad and John.
@danepresley78515 жыл бұрын
They are quite accomplished and extremely talented
@theheritic2095 жыл бұрын
Michael Comminos u just schooled me cause i didn’t know there was a John Wackerman
@GladHe8r Жыл бұрын
I loved how the two styles blended so well throughout the song. There's a time for simple and complex in a song imo.
@Joker-qy2fv5 жыл бұрын
1/5 Not enough cowbell.
@nmfilmarts57645 жыл бұрын
LMAO dont fear the reaper man
@brown22sugar255 жыл бұрын
*03/5
@Chargers4x45 жыл бұрын
0.5/10 no cowbell
@absoluteforehead80715 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a fever
@hiTocopter5 жыл бұрын
@@absoluteforehead8071 What's the prescription you need?
@Lastdragonrider885 жыл бұрын
2:47-3:00 was perfect. Complex, incredibly musical and complementing the rest of what was going on so well.
@creatinovic5 жыл бұрын
my favorite part, too :)
@compulsive_curiosity5 жыл бұрын
made better by the drop back to a simple beat. anyone who argues purely for one or the other misses the point of variety!
@jnkny5 жыл бұрын
William Machado just wanted to write exactly that 👍😄
@Lastdragonrider885 жыл бұрын
@@compulsive_curiosity Of course, but this part stood out as a perfect example of what complexity coupled with great musicality can achieve, even taken out of context and just heard on its own, this part still shines as an incredible and mature musical statement. Obviously this section is creating tension that will be resolved with the drop, Brooks understands that and enhanced the tension to its absolutely highest point before the 'drop', the drop wouldn't feel so good if the tension part wasn't so expertly done (and vice versa as you state), so both parts are working together.
@CharlesSeraphDrums5 жыл бұрын
The “complex” sounds like a collection of breakdowns and transitions that could very well sit in between the simple rhythm. The genre you chose to write the song in demands a certain type of drumming that needs to be solid and not overwhelming. Perhaps in a death or prog song, things would work out differently. So, both and none, really.
@scottsmith81625 жыл бұрын
Carlos Alberto Carbajal Constantine LoL
@mikebarnes74415 жыл бұрын
@@scottsmith8162 perfectly worded man
@renegadespaceman4 жыл бұрын
Brooks has such a signature style of time-fuckery. This reminded me of the end of "Submission Complete" where Bad Religion basically just uleash him on the end of the track making it awesome squared.
@djr99995 жыл бұрын
Jared: arms Brooks: Wrists
@BoY8604 жыл бұрын
It's for visual apeal. If you play a simple beat and don't move it's not as effective visually. Most drummers do it.
@andythedrummer96424 жыл бұрын
When you play slow beats, usually people use arms. When you get to some faster stuff, u should be using wrists.
@andythedrummer96424 жыл бұрын
@Hanafi Ariffin no problem!
@augustus99924 жыл бұрын
@Hanafi Ariffin And if u play ever faster, you would be using fingers, but that takes a lot of practice.
@tonyvercetti80564 жыл бұрын
Brooks is so soft, I like it
@bazzyg5 жыл бұрын
As an ex-drummer myself, I like both. It all really depends on the riff and and how much you want to highlight or compliment it.
@Grugyn5 жыл бұрын
why ex?, and yeah i agree, the complex is obviously a lot nicer but the entire songs worth would be overkill ,definitely simple is superior when youre giving room to breathe
@estebanmejia34735 жыл бұрын
Why ex?
@bazzyg5 жыл бұрын
@@estebanmejia3473 Gave up drumming a few years ago and haven't practised since. Bit rusty to say the least. Chris Adler, I am not.
@ZackTheNever5 жыл бұрын
Lead guitar: Jared Dines Lead singer/Rhythm guitar: Matt Heafy Drums: Brooks Wackerman Bass guitar: ??? Davie504???
@mpaamt5 жыл бұрын
yea davie504
@denjerdaii4205 жыл бұрын
Count grishnackh
@sammil58915 жыл бұрын
ZackTheNever fieldy
@ethanslade97085 жыл бұрын
It would be sweet if john myung could get in on it
@drunkhobo91795 жыл бұрын
Davie504 for sure
@CapnRiggs2k54 жыл бұрын
When you can blend a mixture of simple and complexity into the song, you make a song go from good to great. And that simple to complex transition at around @2:35 was just perfect
@marjacu38094 жыл бұрын
I think it's the best example to show how both are needed to add complexity to a song without overloading it with detail
@garyschu10044 жыл бұрын
@@marjacu3809 agreed
@drwoods Жыл бұрын
agree
@mexidancer5 жыл бұрын
This was really just like watching Brooks be Brooks and Jared giving us time to process what Brooks was playing
@seventrials79895 жыл бұрын
Brooks it's a cool guy, Jimmy will proud to him #foREVer
@dankweed50495 жыл бұрын
Well they have a thing for taking drummers from their favorite bands (dream theatre,confide and bad religion) since he passed
@judgeshred98725 жыл бұрын
Aziz Arzad i like what you did with that hashtag homie #REZpect
@judgeshred98725 жыл бұрын
Meant to say revspect haha
@swat_ape39205 жыл бұрын
Jimmy still needs to come back as the knife master... foREVer 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@sultanalif.m31375 жыл бұрын
#foREVer
@getsosavage98415 жыл бұрын
Alternating should be the way. That way it isn't too simple nor too complex
@ewan_mclean5 жыл бұрын
TheRedLester 22 I think so as well. Event though my music is more electronic, some concepts always relate
@v0lve33215 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this!
@swat_ape39205 жыл бұрын
I agree
@TacTicMint5 жыл бұрын
Complex builds tension and simple releases.
@Lucky_28474 жыл бұрын
Brooks Wakerman though. Jesus Christ. Dude is next level man.
@novoice92865 жыл бұрын
when youre a new drummer: "theyre both complex, i see no difference"
@bipbipletucha5 жыл бұрын
@Blake Houle Nope.
@rinzxc88575 жыл бұрын
@Blake Houle yes.
@dabj95465 жыл бұрын
As a drummer I enjoyed the complex version but I feel like the polyrhythms, offbeats... might kill the flow.
@trevorramey62095 жыл бұрын
Da BJ Especially with these particular melodies. The song needs more grove for the off beat patterns.
@nicolasfrossard43155 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@bulweidmusicexplorer5 жыл бұрын
Feel the same.
@blur13555 жыл бұрын
He can easily play simple drum patterns I think we shouldn't stay with simple drum beats and expand our minds a little bit
@blur13555 жыл бұрын
@KingOfLegends23 well thats a good argument. You're breathtaking
@TheNerdyGinger5 жыл бұрын
Brooks is really good at making things complex but tasteful. Wasn’t a fan of his first two segments, but the rest were all great. I especially loved his performance around 2:00
@RileyAiC3 жыл бұрын
the trampoline wrestling master himself again? good day
@TheNerdyGinger3 жыл бұрын
@@RileyAiC 😁
@ExternusArmy2 жыл бұрын
@@RileyAiC I think the simple just becomes boring over time. I mean how many times are you gonna hear the same on beat rhythm? Brooks is crushing totally new rhythms like every bar, it’s absolutely insane
@abagz39194 жыл бұрын
I have his drumstick. I caught it when he threw it into the audience
@libsoric66934 жыл бұрын
Did you eat it ? I hear it's a pretty good icecream brand
@bigchungus33994 жыл бұрын
Pat Libsoraled I feel stupid for laughing at this
@rubemevangelista38684 жыл бұрын
that's true, I was the air cut by the flying drumstick
@baekksong39704 жыл бұрын
that's true, i was the drumstick
@helderlourenco20114 жыл бұрын
@@baekksong3970 yes I confirm, I was the truth
@sohamadhikari25505 жыл бұрын
Brooks starts playing the complex part. *LARS HAS LEFT THE CHAT*
@nukepacifista91885 жыл бұрын
HAHA! Lars was buried alive by the beast and the harlot to the afterlife like a rock, like a planet, like a fucking atom boooomb
@putuaditiyapratama70105 жыл бұрын
😁😂
@aadarshthomasraj50185 жыл бұрын
Lmao have you even seen Lars Ulrich cover dream theater's metropolis?
@Phildo1175 жыл бұрын
Always the one idiot with the Lars comment. Shut up
@sohamadhikari25505 жыл бұрын
@@DestroyTheMindless Thanks for checking my profile xD. Please do subscribe :'3
@shayanmoosavi91395 жыл бұрын
Wait.... Do you mean *the* brooks wackerman? The best drummer of avenged sevenfold after rev? That's awesome :)
@cute_cadaver66165 жыл бұрын
Portnoy played for them for a while too. Brooks doesn't even come close to being their best drummer.
@herpderpinson61175 жыл бұрын
All_Hope_Is_Gone Yea but for the most part Porntoy was just playing parts the the Rev already wrote lol
@todorstoynov23625 жыл бұрын
@@herpderpinson6117 I think OP made that claim by comparing Brooks to Portnoy as a whole, nit just to what he did in A7X, i.e. stuff like his work in Dream Theatre.
@FabrizioPedrotti5 жыл бұрын
And the best drummer Bad Religion ever had
@allannava3615 жыл бұрын
Jimmy and Brooks are each unique in their own way. While I certainly love Jimmy’s style more no one can discredit Brooks since their the best in their own ways.
@arcadedomination80065 жыл бұрын
2:33 is actually the perfect transition.
@ThePedroaugustobc4 жыл бұрын
That's bat country transition, you can hear it in the end of bat country - at that ballad part right after "my vision is so unclear"
@kalvinruth85714 жыл бұрын
#Accurate
@Somawesomestuff4 жыл бұрын
Brooks has slowly become my favorite drummer. I love his playing style
@auricle65535 жыл бұрын
Complex drums are great to throw into bridges and outros. Simple drums for the other parts of the song so we can focus on the other instruments as well.
@reynaldomorales50874 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Sometimes complexity can be distracting. As long as it's done tastefully I'm all for it. With that being said I thought both drummers in this video were excellent in their own respect.
@ossisuomalainen4 жыл бұрын
@@reynaldomorales5087 and then there's danny carey
@MozTheBoz4 жыл бұрын
Mastodon says hi
@RegionalRadioShackManager5 жыл бұрын
Brooks is such a monster. If you have a chance listen to The Stage drum tracks alone. Crazy stuff
@crocodilecrox37585 жыл бұрын
Just listen to paradigm. The drums ARE the riff.
@CookTheCrook155 жыл бұрын
crocodile crox paradigm is my favorite
@RuiPalmeira5 жыл бұрын
@@crocodilecrox3758 personal favorite is Exist, really. but every track on the album is just plain SOLID and really well written.
@atlys2585 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the only reason I got back into them is that the drums are interesting/creative again.
@nostalgiajunkie5 жыл бұрын
atlys although they were going for a stylistic change in sound for their tribute album or whatever, I totally agree. Drums are such a huge element of the songwriting of that band and it was missing the entire time after portnoy finished up nightmare
@lucaseduardo90975 жыл бұрын
what a drummer avenged has now days, Brooks destroys it man.
@TheFreekill175 жыл бұрын
The Rev will always be the best Aveneged drummer though
@DerrickRG5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFreekill17 Not really bud. The best drummer to ever sit behind a kit for Avenged was Portnoy.
@TheFreekill175 жыл бұрын
@@DerrickRG portnoy is a fuckin God but The Rev always glued the tracks together *perfectly*
@TheFreekill175 жыл бұрын
@@DerrickRG all my opinion though, bud.
@rippindrummer6665 жыл бұрын
Brooks is better than the rev and portnoy. Portnoy is one of the most overrated drummers of all time, if you think he’s the best you haven’t heard many prog drummers. Go lookup mike portnoy vs billy Rymer drum battle, Billy rymer straight up embarrasses Portnoy.
@apb0327 Жыл бұрын
Brooks is an amazing drummer and a good guy. Glad he joined A7X. I liked the complex more, but both were good for their own reasons.
@the.Aruarian5 жыл бұрын
Having a complex rhythm section requires that the rest of the band is competent enough, though. 😂
@SilkandScrooge5 жыл бұрын
Dave Blink 182 proves you wrong. Travis Barkers drum parts are crazy compared to those other two chumps.
@Abasedbymygrief5 жыл бұрын
Dirty Loops has some decently simple pop stuff but their bassist is EXTREMELY complex
@Javier115065 жыл бұрын
@@SilkandScrooge although the other two destroy Travis Barker technique wise. Travis has speed but unlike Brooks he doesn't have the independace or groove which 9/10 are more important in drumming.
@kennyjimenez87135 жыл бұрын
True, I mean just look at Tool
@casualcoup7985 жыл бұрын
javier gardea I think he meant Mark and Tom as the “other two chumps”
@riodabo2665 жыл бұрын
To headbang, i prefer simple,. But to listen normally, i prefer di complex
@berkefiliz34105 жыл бұрын
Idk, I prefer both in a single song if that creates the correct mood
@m6rkf6rk6s5 жыл бұрын
I'm a really big fan of twisted drums so I prefer the complex but the simple is awesome too
@travboat3 жыл бұрын
I love Brooks' drumming on Bad Religion's "The Empire Strikes First" album, the intensity is straight up relentless on that one.
@contemptcreatorarthurave40423 жыл бұрын
He also ruled it on Suicidal Tendencies Six The Hard Way.
@gaijinhakase15753 жыл бұрын
Yesss I can’t get enough of that
@holyordersoftheemperorsinq2465 жыл бұрын
Simple for chorus, intro and breakdowns. Complex for lyrics, climax, tempo/key change and outro.
@anony_meows5 жыл бұрын
it's not a matter of simplicity vs complexity. this is a matter of which grooove suits better with the song
@sykosis11925 жыл бұрын
Yeah but even then that depends on personal taste as well, someone may find a complex groove fits it, someone else may find a simple groove fits it
@sykosis11925 жыл бұрын
Which is the point of the video, it's seeing which ones people prefer/think suit the song the most
@abhisekpanda51655 жыл бұрын
Dream became true.... A7X and jared dines are in one video
@sethvaughn19315 жыл бұрын
Mr. Panda so I wasn’t the only one who screamed?
@MuscleCarsLoveMe4 жыл бұрын
It really sounded like a drum off between A7X and Breaking Benjamin 😂
@jamessantacruz27483 жыл бұрын
Bruh u was thinking the exact same thing lol
@IsimplyWill5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the listener: As a drummer, i hear the simple beat and I'm like "oh yeah, that's cool" and start adding complexity in my mind as I listen and play along. The complex actually makes me stop and listen to the song because I'm like "wait, what the f*** did he just do?"
@bethyroddy89785 жыл бұрын
willy fleming I’ve never related to a comment so much 😂
@HaxoReSc5 жыл бұрын
Same! :D
@sirnuketon65545 жыл бұрын
Jared’s a fantastic musician. Only reason I wanna play drums. Be like Jared Dines. Not Jared from Subway.
@fairyfromtheforest95025 жыл бұрын
Ooohoohoof xD Agreed tho.
@GarboSweaty5 жыл бұрын
Jared from Subway might be a great musician too. We don't know for sure.
@arnavdman5 жыл бұрын
No.
@ugsdit52965 жыл бұрын
@@GarboSweaty but he is a horrible kindergarten employee
@wilddogv2.0825 жыл бұрын
Sir Nuketon XDDDDDDD
@SDCB7544 жыл бұрын
I love how loosely Brooks holds the drumsticks, similar to the way Sean Kinney, of Alice in Chains, holds them.
@Kaustich5 жыл бұрын
As A7X being my favourite metal band, this video was 100/10, Both were amazing, keep up the great vids bro
@imaclown123455 жыл бұрын
I just love how Brooks hit the drums with such accuracy and finesse, he looks so comfortable and effortless
@M8TT25 жыл бұрын
The way Brook's left wrist moves so fluently while bending that far back makes me uncomfortable xD
@Keitel300 Жыл бұрын
Always keep coming back,just to see how a monster of drummer is Brooks,insane!
@uta_kun15385 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the complexity or simplicity of the drums, if it serves the song then it's good.
@xxXthekevXxx5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@brennand9335 жыл бұрын
You got it wrong. Does the song serve the drums
@uta_kun15385 жыл бұрын
@@brennand933 As a guitar player, I don't approve this statement.
@brennand9335 жыл бұрын
uTa_kun I think guitar is vastly overrated (I play too). If a song doesn’t have good drums or bass, I don’t care how cool the riffs are, song still sucks
@uta_kun15385 жыл бұрын
@@brennand933 Yes, i never said that drums are overrated or anything like that tho xD. I think the drums can elevate a riff quite nicely, but still most of the music is guitar driven.
@nathanlawrence6565 жыл бұрын
The guitars needed the simple drums, but DDDAAAAMMMMNN... Wackerman is a epic piece of beast, wow. Great drumming from both of yall
@FinnBassFo5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, the song called for simpler drums... but the guy is insane!
@pwh5895 жыл бұрын
what brooks did in the solo is exactly how you should play when theres a solo, amazing player...
@MaxMayfield745 жыл бұрын
Verse: complex Chorus: simple Git solo: simple Bridge: complex Ending: complex just my 2ct....
@rey-ns7kc5 жыл бұрын
tf is "2ct"???
@andrewmckenzie26505 жыл бұрын
@@rey-ns7kc 2 cents
@B_Rowen5 жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with this list completely. I do like complexity on some solos though, it if accentuates the rhythm of the lead or has a call and response aspect.
@MaxMayfield745 жыл бұрын
@@B_Rowen agree... As long as it matches the guitar and bass somehow I'm a fan of complexity on a solo, too.
@infinityseagull37525 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@davidtobing77445 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple guy, I see Brooks, i click. He’s complex tho.
@lamentis30255 жыл бұрын
can we have some 'drum wars' in the future...please!!?.. You know the fans want it....
@manishmanbert85922 жыл бұрын
i come to this video every once in a while just to admire brook's wrist movement. it's like he has left his hand dead and is only working with his arms. he's so loose on his wrist, it's amazing.
@kerimmarsaoui15885 жыл бұрын
Im still amazed by the drums played by Brooks in "The Stage" Extremely juicy !