THE EVOLUTION OF BOXING

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EnglishMartialArts

EnglishMartialArts

Күн бұрын

Boxing as we know it today is a creation of the modern era, but it didn't spring into life fully formed in the 1800s, it gradually evolved over time.
In this video we look at the three distinct eras of boxing that together cover the bare knuckle period.
Please do all the normal stuff, like, share, subscribe, that kinda thing.
Ta!
Hope you enjoy.

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@shagnikbarman9335
@shagnikbarman9335 Жыл бұрын
This feels like going back to a time where it was just you sipping wine and telling stories, Oz. That was my favourite era, personally, and this definitely a return to that but with much higher production quality! I love your storytelling, and I'm really looking forward to going on this journey with you again. Fight team!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
I think there may just be more of this!
@GrizzlyHansen
@GrizzlyHansen Жыл бұрын
I was just talking about this with someone, I'm always educating the fighters at my gym. I may be the odd one, but I find it kinda odd how many of the guys who dedicate their lives to the sport know so little about it. Then again I got this channel to thank for pointing me into the right directions.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
It's amazing isn't it, people so convinced boxing is the best way of fighting that have no idea where boxing came from.
@mikhailvasiliev6275
@mikhailvasiliev6275 Жыл бұрын
You sound intolerable.
@kellyhoffmann1
@kellyhoffmann1 Жыл бұрын
I love this stuff.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Well that's good news!
@waynegoddard4065
@waynegoddard4065 Жыл бұрын
Damn right.
@davevandevenne8891
@davevandevenne8891 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to hear your take on some of the classical Greek and Roman fighting styles, even if the sources are limited.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
It's a fascinating subject, and I agree would make a good video!
@AS-qy1zl
@AS-qy1zl 4 ай бұрын
Yes I agree. Boxing is mentioned even in the Iliad. It’s one of the oldest sports but we know so little about it
@Stephen_Curtin
@Stephen_Curtin Жыл бұрын
Love the fact that you addressed the George Stevenson issue, if only in passing. The December 28th 1681 issue of the Protestant Mercury is available at an online newspaper archive which you can see it for free with a seven day free trial. Sadly when I tried to link to the particular website my comment got deleted, but I'm sure you could find it with a quick search. I disagree with some of what you're saying about ground fighting in the pre Broughton days, but I'll have to gather up my notes to back up what I'm saying, so I'll post about that later. Anyway good stuff as always. FIGHT TEAM!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
The ground fighting isn't an issue I'm willing to drop just yet, but I'm always open to hearing a coherent argument. I'll try to find the archive in question, I did have a look but it was late and I obviously missed it. Drop me an email if you wouldn't mind, I'd love to explore some of the things you have mentioned in a little more detail. .
@hiltonian_1260
@hiltonian_1260 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this throwback video and I have a suggestion for a parallel video to the Jack Broughton story. Right now I’m looking at a piece of boxing memorabilia; an autographed photo card of Tommy Collins, an American featherweight boxer of the 1950s who had an impressive knockout record. He was also the loser of the “Boston Massacre” of 1953 against lightweight Jimmy Carter. He was knocked down ten times, and so badly beaten there was an outcry for reform. At least one reform, the three knockdown rule, was put in place. I’d like to see a video from you on that fight, Tommy Collins, and the parallel evolution of rules on this side of the pond. I love your history videos.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting idea for a video, thank you.
@andrewplck
@andrewplck Жыл бұрын
That is a very interesting topic, especially given the fact that we more or less have returned to those times form before the rules - sounds like an MMA fighter would fit those fights fairly well, if they can go on without breakes.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it just!
@fredazcarate4818
@fredazcarate4818 Жыл бұрын
Lad to utter the word enjoyment of your presentation would be a complete understatement. Kudos and bless you and your family lad!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you Fred!
@seanwinter4784
@seanwinter4784 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous historical overview of boxing history. Great job
@NYKgjl10
@NYKgjl10 Жыл бұрын
Excellent history of Boxing which I find it very fascinating and rich in history as a means of sports and even self protection. What I would do to go back in time to visit the Royal Theatre in London back in the late 1600's
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
I'd love to tine travel, but only as a tourist!
@putonghualandolin8110
@putonghualandolin8110 Жыл бұрын
Thank's, love your stuff, especially history ! :)
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CJ-uf6xl
@CJ-uf6xl Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@erichibler2112
@erichibler2112 Жыл бұрын
Dude I love your channel.👊 This type of pugilistic education and interesting commentary enriches my own background and understanding and is much appreciated. I fought Original MMA in the 90's wear anything goes with 4-ounce Harbinger fingerless bag gloves were used. It was MMA but at that time you were allowed to do anything except; (fish hook, eye gouge or groin shots)... Techniques like soccer kicking or kneeing a downed fighter in the head, head slams, head butts, tailbone shots, throat shots, and many other types of potential maming techniques eventually we're removed for safety and public opinion to become a legitimate sport in the USA. I personally wanted to punch and kick on my feet or on the ground while kickboxing I looked to slow movement and while wrestling I used position to control for ground/n/pound or submission finishing. All precursors to modern mma. 👊💀
@specialforces237
@specialforces237 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation mate. 👊🥊
@batjutsu
@batjutsu Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great overview 😀
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@KorKhan89
@KorKhan89 Жыл бұрын
Really nice summary, thanks so much!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@zachleprieur2871
@zachleprieur2871 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid of the timeline and links to the longer vids. Keep up the great work buddy! Hope you feel better soon after your disney marathon. #fightteam!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@PunchCatcher
@PunchCatcher Жыл бұрын
To indulge my laziness and answer your previous video, this is where I'd like to see the channel go in the future. This is the kind of stuff that I personally find the most interesting (along with the tales of greatness, Smackanory, etc.) I understand that this might not be the most algorithmically rewarding type of content but it is what I'm most interested in. As far as speaking of only English boxing I was very much reminded of dear old Cross Buttucker and his zealotry for Cumberland and Westmoreland wrestling. Also noticed that you put the gloves on the shelf behind you for this one. #fightteam
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
#bemorearmstrong
@paulrouleau1972
@paulrouleau1972 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and detective work. Fight Team!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you! FIGHT TEEEEEEAAAAM!
@JivecattheMagnificent
@JivecattheMagnificent Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these videos, mate. (Fight team, naturally.) I have a book somewhere that I can't quite recall the name of, it was something like Boxiana? In any case, it was all about pugilism, and had many incredible rundowns of classic bouts, and gives a lot of information about many of the top (and lesser well known) fighters, spanning quite a period of history.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Boxiana by Pearce Egan. He was essentially the first sports journalist. The Folio Society published an abridged version of his work in the 70s, is yours a hardback in a box?
@JivecattheMagnificent
@JivecattheMagnificent Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts That was it, yes! Sadly it's not a hardback, no. I took a look and yeah the paperback version is easy to come by. I guess the hardback is sought after!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
@@JivecattheMagnificent the original is 4 or 5 volumes and worth its weight in gold. The 70s reprint is usually about £20 or so. Well worth getting if you see a copy.
@corrugatedcavalier5266
@corrugatedcavalier5266 Жыл бұрын
Love it, what an interesting look at the evolution of the sport. FIGHT TEAM!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@elliotvernon7971
@elliotvernon7971 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for this.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stoneslash
@stoneslash Жыл бұрын
could you do a similar breakdown of catch wrestling and explain any overlap there may have been with boxing in different eras?
@charliemcbroom2674
@charliemcbroom2674 Жыл бұрын
Great video Oz! :)
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charlie!
@izzygarcialionibabaloipici6293
@izzygarcialionibabaloipici6293 Жыл бұрын
Coach can you do a video on backfists and hammerfist strikes? Those punches were wide spread at one point no? Why did they go away?
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Great idea, I've got a half written script for a video along those lines somewhere...
@izzygarcialionibabaloipici6293
@izzygarcialionibabaloipici6293 Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts those techniques seem really useful, you could wiff a hook and come back with the hammer or back fist. On the ground in someones guard, if you apply a can opener your opponents entire face and head is vulnerable to hammerfists. I want to see more of them and i will work to use them in competition
@andrewk.5575
@andrewk.5575 Жыл бұрын
If you take a look at the "jab" of certain boxers who used cross-armed guards like Gene Fullmer and Archie Moore, you can make an argument that the hammerfist never entirely disappeared. Then again, once your into the "dirty tactics" realm of boxing you can argue that trips, headbutts, elbows, and open hand strikes are still around too....
@brianknezevich9894
@brianknezevich9894 Жыл бұрын
Didn't make it past the intro yet, but I have high expectations, given the title. Something I never knew I wanted! *Fight Team*
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Well I hope it meets expectations!
@brianknezevich9894
@brianknezevich9894 Жыл бұрын
So far, I could use more of the lovely lovely Ludwig Von B...
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
@@brianknezevich9894 it is unfulfillingly short isn't it.
@tapioperala3010
@tapioperala3010 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video, and I'd love to see a much longer, much more in-depth video on the evolution of boxing and pugilism.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts 10 ай бұрын
It probably deserves a series really.
@tapioperala3010
@tapioperala3010 10 ай бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts I'd be all over it 😁
@Warp_Speed_Hippo
@Warp_Speed_Hippo Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the info. Fight team!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@fletchkeilman2205
@fletchkeilman2205 Жыл бұрын
Anytime you mention The Marquis, I think of The Quiet Man.....and then of course Oscar Wilde and Bosie....but...well we don't need to go there now. AMAZING VIDEO!!! This is the good stuff. As always, mom says hi and I hope you are well.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Hi Fletch's mum! 👋
@fletchkeilman2205
@fletchkeilman2205 Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArtsshe says hi haha. And to still think about doing voice over work!
@victor03000
@victor03000 Жыл бұрын
Awesome history lesson
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@richdennis7555
@richdennis7555 Жыл бұрын
keep up the good , I mean great work ! I look forward to every new video ! would like some coverage of highland games backhold wrestling if pos. THANKS !!!!!!!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@waynegoddard4065
@waynegoddard4065 Жыл бұрын
Excellent channel.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@w8ngr
@w8ngr Жыл бұрын
Any chance of doing a catcher can catch video
@highlander085
@highlander085 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JivecattheMagnificent
@JivecattheMagnificent Жыл бұрын
Well well, it appears I am quite the early bird.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it just!
@whim6287
@whim6287 Жыл бұрын
Good video. FIGHT TEAM!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega Жыл бұрын
Fight Team indeed!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
FIGHT TEEEEEEEAAAAAAM!
@richdennis7555
@richdennis7555 Жыл бұрын
Fight Team !!!!!
@kipp1231
@kipp1231 Жыл бұрын
The first era sounded more like an early form of of mma albeit a rather dirty one. 😬
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed.
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 Жыл бұрын
FIGHT TEAM!
@pahlavandan3989
@pahlavandan3989 Жыл бұрын
What type of boxing do you recommend for street/self defence? Old school, modern or something else?
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
For self defence it's hard to say. Someone that can teach good footwork, good evasion and blocking, and focuses on the fundamentals. For now go subscribe to Matt Goddard at The Boxing Locker. He's got a Boxing 101 playlist that is pure gold.
@keyboardmamma
@keyboardmamma Жыл бұрын
Hey Oz are you still selling your courses on classical pugilistic fighting? I'd really like to get them to start training in old time fighting.
@keyboardmamma
@keyboardmamma Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed the algorithm doesn't get rid of this.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
I'm not, it's a long and dull story, but I lost a domain and a lot of content. I am considering starting all over again though...
@keyboardmamma
@keyboardmamma Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts damn that must be frustrating, I'm definitely in support of you starting over though if you can manage it and I'd be happy to support your work.
@anthonyventi1579
@anthonyventi1579 9 ай бұрын
Love your shit man!!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@anthonyventi1579
@anthonyventi1579 9 ай бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts keep ‘em coming brother!!i if you’re ever in LA I’ll buy you a beer!
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts 9 ай бұрын
@@anthonyventi1579 I'll hold you to that!
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum Жыл бұрын
Which era would you most like to see re-introduced to modern times?
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
That's a good question. There is something very appealing to me in the early era stage gladiators fighting multiple bouts with different weapons as well as unarmed. Stopping for drinks and food inbetween.
@bugs4680
@bugs4680 Жыл бұрын
Yes !!!!!
@bugs4680
@bugs4680 Жыл бұрын
@@stephena1196 what ??? Im a huge fan bro i love the content my comment is out of excitment nothing to read into
@stephena1196
@stephena1196 Жыл бұрын
@@bugs4680 yes, of course, apologies for my initial misunderstanding. I didn't mean to be disrespectful, I just found the coincidence funny at the time.
@bugs4680
@bugs4680 Жыл бұрын
@@stephena1196 no problem, no worries ,no disrespect taken pal
@stephena1196
@stephena1196 Жыл бұрын
@@bugs4680 thank you.
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын
Early era sounds a whole lot like American rough and tumble
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын
The anglosaxon urge to personally remove your countrymen's eyeball
@mattsharkey8437
@mattsharkey8437 3 күн бұрын
You learn boxing by fighting and not by boxing
@w8ngr
@w8ngr Жыл бұрын
Why don’t people just call it London prize rules especially if you know the term Queensbury
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard Жыл бұрын
I prefer LPR era to Broughton's rules era. I mean, those mustaches 9:55 look much better than sideburns at 8:20 =)
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
You make a convincing argument.
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts You can't beat the rule of the cool! =)
@FranzStFleur
@FranzStFleur Жыл бұрын
So these rules ruined boxing by removing wrestling and other types of combat techniques. Boxing could have been mma before mma.
@richardperry1421
@richardperry1421 Жыл бұрын
Good video but the guy narrating it,his voice is enough to send u to sleep or irratate
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Just out of interest who are you writing this comment to? Do you think "the guy narrating" is an actor or something? Or do you just assume that I make make videos and don't read the comments?
@mysty0
@mysty0 Жыл бұрын
Any History of Boxing that fails to mention Karate's Influence is hardly worth listening to, a Eurocentric autoeroticism.. even Russian Boxing Masters acknowledge Karates heavy contribution and even go so far as to call Karate the Root of Russian Boxing
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the name of the channel?
@mysty0
@mysty0 Жыл бұрын
@@EnglishMartialArts well the English always were the masters of lying by omission
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын
what? please elaborate, I am really curious about this, I was well aware that KICKboxing exists because of karate, but karate influencing boxing sounds very anachronistic, so please, enlighten me.
@joe2grand
@joe2grand Жыл бұрын
classical pugilism ? hmmmmm...Excess postulating more like....We can abbreviate this whole video into one sentence: " Throughout history people have been punching other people in the head, and this continues to this day"- End of video.
@EnglishMartialArts
@EnglishMartialArts Жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder why you might watch a video entitled "The Evolution Of Boxing" and then complain that it actually described the evolution of boxing....
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