The Evolution of Slayer (1982 to present)

[@paskapaavo]

Most interesting part was Kerry's hair development.

[@axelf.3188]

Now I know he became bald in 1994

[@Joe.888]

Diminishment

[@DrewRandIsCool]

Forever bald

[@destianpatrianagara1119]

..And his beard

[@megaduck7965]

Macho Man Kerry Savage

[@Shy_Flames]

Kerry King's hair R.I.P 1981-1993 Only to be reincarnated as Phil Anselmo in 1995

[@maximilianodiaz1065]

😂

[@orsayurka]

🤣🤣🤣

[@theinnercircle5820]

You’re💯There my dude!🤘🔥💀😢

[@beetlesazer]

Jordan Rudess and Scott Ian too.

[@dima.jiharev]

Dieded!

[@albacastilloaviisrael6608]

Paul Bostaph: joins Slayer Kerry King: Ight imma shave

[@raidingdormouse6093]

Fine, I'll do it myself Song list: 0:00 - Tormentor 0:08 - Show No Mercy 0:17 - Black Magic 0:23 - Evil Has No Boundaries 0:28 - Chemical Warfare 0:32 - Hell Awaits 0:37 - Hardening Of The Arteries 0:41 - Necrophiliac 0:48 - Raining Blood 0:53 - Angel of Death 1:02 - Necrophobic 1:10 - South of Heaven 1:18 - Cleanse the Soul 1:23 - Mandatory Suicide 1:30 - Seasons in the Abyss 1:43 - Dead Skin Mask 1:52 - War Ensemble 2:00 - Skeletons of Society 2:09 - Dittohead 2:17 - Divine Intervention 2:24 - Killing Fields 2:32 - Gemini 2:40 - Abolish Government/Superficial Love (T.S.O.L. cover) 2:49 - Bitter Peace 3:02 - Stain of Mind 3:11 - Perversions of Pain 3:20 - Bloodline 3:27 - Disciple 3:36 - Deviance 3:49 - Payback 4:02 - Hell Awaits (Live 2005) 4:10 - Jihad 4:26 - Cult 4:33 - Eyes of the Insane 4:40 - World Painted Blood 4:45 - Unit 731 4:54 - Hate Worldwide 5:04 - Human Strain 5:11 - Black Magic (Live 2011) 5:20 - South of Heaven (Live 2013) 5:32 - Implode 5:41 - Repentless 5:50 - Pride in Prejudice 6:02 - Delusions of Saviour 6:13 - Postmortem (Live 2019) 6:23 - The Antichrist (Live 2019) 6:31 - Angel of Death (Live 2019)

[@m.c.ruckus2032]

RaidingDormouse , Thanks! I'm so glad you did. l was about to begin putting together the tracklist & time points myself too. You saved me from taking the time to compile & enter it & helped out everyone else! Much appreciated! 🔥🤘😎🎸👍🔥

[@alexsaucedo8032]

Hell yeahhhhhh Thank you for sharing this 🙏 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@wesleypipes5673]

OP could have at least gave you a thumbs up or something geez

[@josie1776]

Thank you very much!

[@billsalvey]

🤘🍺🍺🤘

[@marl0nbrand01]

True story: HUGE Slayer fan here but back in like '98~'99 I was 17 or so, and headed to an Obituary show at the Whisky-a-go-go. I lived in L.A so I took the Sunset blvd bus there to meet up with friends at the show. 7pm on a Saturday night, I boarded the line 2 bus and made my way towards the back and stood near the exit. A few feet behind me is some dude sitting down, mid to late 30's, kinda short in build, mid length hair, mustache/goatee, dressed in black, typical rock/metal type. I turn around at one point and we both acknowledge each other. We ended up shooting the shit and chatting on about metal bands, no mention of Slayer. He gets up to get off the bus just a few stops before mine, darts along past me and in that brief moment we fist bump, he asks for my name, he says something akin to enjoy the show and have a great night, almost too polite, and he finishes his sentence by casually mentioning "Oh by the way I'm Dave Lombardo (pauses for a second) from Slayer" and all I said in the most unenthusiastic and sarcastic way was "Oh, OK,.. cool" and grimaced a bit as if to convey, yeah right buddy fat chance. LOL. He smiled to himself, got off the bus and that was that. I went on to the Obituary show as intended and didn't even mention any of this to anyone, ever. TWO DECADES LATER.. It finally hit me. It all makes perfect sense. That was definitely Dave Lombardo on the back of the bus! He was just being humble and polite toward a high school age metal kid. Likely he was just saving a few bucks that Saturday night going somewhere on Sunset Blvd/Hollywood.. LOL. Total under the radar class act. DAVE YOU'RE THE BEST! \m/

[@aboutthemetal8783]

He wasn't in slayer in 98 ,he got fired in 92, and came back in 2002

[@marl0nbrand01]

@@aboutthemetal8783 Probably why Dave was on the bus? Haha. You bring up an interesting point in that he had a long standing strained professional relationship with the other guys in the band and was on and off the band often. Yet despite that he seemingly always managed to be a working drummer with other band acts and projects. What cracks me up is that in my 17 y.o mind I could not believe it was him when he told me he was Dave. I was such a fan I thought Slayer lived in excess and luxury, because why wouldn't they? Lol.. It took growing up into adulthood for me to understand the reality of the transportation choice he made that evening. No uber in '98, cabs not really popular in L.A back then (still aren't), and driving a car meant exorbitant valet parking fees and/or risking a DUI in the Hollywood area. Taking the bus was the safest and most economical way to go.

[@richardcurtis1912]

Lombardo came out to say that he played his last tour with Slayer and they paid him ‘hired gun’ wages, not band member payment. He claimed for the entire involvement with the 2011 tour that he played, he was only payed around $67,000 !!! Ive heard conflicting stories since, but that was straight from Dave. They really did him shitty considering probably 48% of Slayer fans go to see Slayer because of his drumming and to see him. Everybody I ever knew that liked Slayer always spoke about his skills more than Kerry’s playing, that’s for damn sure! Kerry and Tom took over and really pinched pennies when it came to paying Dave. Really shitty way to treat the best drummer they ever had and their best studio drummer as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4Grm4F9ZtJlaKs

[@Nefelisdiardi]

Goodbye Slayer and thanks for everything. Kicking ass and taking names for 38 years. So many brilliant memories

[@isaaczakkalisson4187]

SLAYER IS BACK!!!

[@brunofernandes5638]

1:28 Dave Lombarto turns into John Rambo. Thats why drums always sounds like machineguns

[@slominskitomasz]

u made my day :DDDDDDD

[@sillypenquin9189]

It's amazing to see Kerry King evolves into Rob Halford.

[@samstoner4984]

GREAT COMMENTS

[@dima.jiharev]

Does he sing?

[@DHuys]

Gay?

[@DHuys]

No offense 😅😜

[@randywissler9923]

@@DHuys does it matter?

[@METALGRAMMYS]

Kerry really had that macho man randy savage look in 1988

[@metalguy1016]

2:20 Does anyone else notice that Jeff Hanneman looks Lemmy Kilmister if he had blonde hair?

[@sa94n]

Interesting fact: On August 20, 1988, at the Monsters of Rock festival in Castle Donington, Megadeth experienced a major withdrawal from heroin, from which, after the concert, the band's manager sent everyone to hospitals for drug addiction treatment. At the time, Nick Menza, who worked as a driver and drum technician, was also fired and was looking for a band that needed a drummer. During this time, Slayer was recording the album "South Of Heaven", and he worked there for a few weeks as drummer until Megadeth reunited in 1989 to record "Rust In Peace". In fact, that means he's been the drummer for Slayer for almost a month.

[@AsphaltKobold]

Fantastic Clip! I am Slayer-Fan from their first Album till now! Too sad they're gone... 🤘

[@Theluckyonesss]

I am old enough to remember when King had hair. 80's ruled

[@jamesblake5628]

ME TOO :)

[@elduderino2404]

I got you beat......I’m old enough to remember when slayer wore makeup........that’s fuckin’ old

[@jamesblake5628]

@@elduderino2404 same. "Show no mercy"

[@elduderino2404]

@@jamesblake5628 ....it was actually really cool.....not fem.....just a shit load of eye black on white faces....good old days......exodus, slayer, and cliff

[@paul.kimmings1668]

only posters on my wall were either slayer , or doro pesch (warlock ) .

[@Highrollinhunter]

Slayer is f**king badass

[@christianjackson9360]

They're one of the BIG4 Lords of THRASH METAL!!!!

[@WhoisVinnie]

They're like the more satanic thrash band.

[@goodenergy5996]

@@christianjackson9360 this band is the big four bro 🤣👈

[@goodenergy5996]

@@WhoisVinnie no way man ! Venom ere satanic ,,, Slayer is more catholic and christian 👍

[@Amp661]

Slayer sucks. Sorry

[@albertn872]

2:42 the brief era with Brad Pitt on drums was surely the best of Slayer, then I guess he went on to be in fight club, funny how life turns out.

[@user-el6lt8fr3x]

I love how in the thumbnail everyone looks menacing and badass while Dave looks like your history teacher 🤣

[@deathcorn2612]

😂🤓

[@WhoisVinnie]

LOL

[@xuphy9503]

I noticed that 😂

[@WhoisVinnie]

👨‍🏫😠😠😠

[@arvindshastry1178]

Dave doesn't need to look badass, his drumming does that for him.

[@WhoisVinnie]

3:37 Holy shit Tom. Did you possess their minds?

[@rudyavelar3874]

Legend has it that Kerry King’s sun glasses are now a part of his face

[@jackschitt7783]

I will never forget the date God Hates Us All was available in stores because it was September 11, 2001. I had pre-ordered it and worked at a department store in a mall that sold CD's. My excitement to be one of the first to have the new Slayer album was crushed by what happened that morning. To this day that albums release and how fitting it's title was for the events of that day is all I can think about when I'm reminded of the band or the events of that day.

[@tbone8839]

Your excitement to be one of the first to have that album should have been crushed by the album sucking. Yet you choose to tie 9/11 into your story. A day you probably weren't affected by on any personal level whatsoever.

[@antondzajajurca7797]

For me Slayer retired the day Dave Lombardo left for the last time.

[@rtomas47]

I like Gary and Paul to be honest, but the last album is not for me

[@user-el6lt8fr3x]

@@rtomas47 don’t sweat it, ALOT of people think repentless sucked (me included)

[@RaInMan66678]

Repentle$$ weak as f•ck 👎🏼💩👎🏼

[@arvindshastry1178]

For me the last great Slayer album was World Painted Blood.

[@catjudo1]

Gary and Paul were good fits, but Dave was on another planet altogether. He sounds like a Latin jazz drummer on cocaine and just drove Slayer's sound. Repentless sounded like what it was, the album at the end of the line. It wasn't that bad to me, but I'm glad they retired before things got worse.

[@Wolf-km5wm]

Dave Lombardo.... best musician that played in Slayer

[@thrashtodeth9442]

He's better than Tom and Jerry but he's not better than Jeff, no way.

[@Wolf-km5wm]

@@thrashtodeth9442 Well everyone has different opinion, right? For me it's Dave, but I respect your opinion 🙂

[@arvindshastry1178]

@@thrashtodeth9442 Bro, Jeff was the best songwriter Slayer ever had but Dave was the best musician in Slayer, South of Heaven is a perfect example of my statement.

[@thrashtodeth9442]

@@arvindshastry1178 I respect your opinion, so I'm going to agree to disagree.

[@arvindshastry1178]

@@thrashtodeth9442 I respect your opinion as well.

[@zeitok8]

love how in the picture all them are metal guys screaming and dave is just chill

[@darrel076]

I think most if us old school fans would say Seasons is still there best work they ever did. Every song is deadly on that album.

[@offspringfan89]

IMHO South and Seasons, because in both albums the band slowed down a bit and made songs with more melody and groove.

[@Dslayer066]

is the most mature album, like you can hear the mix between Reign in Blood and South of heaven.

[@Mindrex327]

South of Heaven And Seasons in the Abyss, Slayers 2 best Albums for sure ! Melody Hello !

[@TheMusician4748]

Nah that goes to Hell Awaits

[@darrel076]

@@TheMusician4748 With a career spanning almost 40 years, they hadn't found their sound on album #2. They were still mixing that formula. It night be your favorite, but it's not even close to their best.

[@lasselippert3892]

It seems crazy how many years Kerry tried to avoid the inevitable.

[@mooman8981]

so glad I got to see them at the farewell tour

[@rufussamsquanch_6547]

Me too. Saw them three times in all. Once on the wholly bizarre tour with Marilyn Manson, Once with Megadeth and Anthrax, and the farewell tour with Napalm Death and Lamb of God.

[@jkwttrs]

I am proud to say I've been there and seen this all the way through. Not a big fan of Kerry but Tom, Dave and Jeff are legends. Tom is the only person in this world that I would give a shit to meet! He is the grandfather of speed/thrash metal.

[@thinkforyourself2109]

I listened to the first 3 albums so many times over the years ... all great but very different. The band really evolved. Hell Awaits is an incredible album. It really conveys the feeling of malevolence. Reign in Blood is the greatest thrash album ever. The fourth album, South of Heaven, was good, but went into a slower grungier direction that in my view lost something important.

[@José-r7s1n]

SLAYER IS BACK!!!!

[@idunlilitu218]

RIP Jeff :( We all miss you and never forget you. True legends never die

[@777Eliyahu]

Cheers to Paul Bostaph, highly underrated drummer

[@richardcurtis1912]

Bostaph was hit and miss at shows sometimes, but still an extremely talented drummer. When Paul is on his best game, he’s a fucking machine! One night he’s 100% on every song, through the entire show. The next night, it was like he had chronic fatigue syndrome, or something was just off with his body altogether. It was like he could never get that perfect alignment with the band, but still really good by most standards. On the worst show that I saw him play, he was hitting around 85% to 90% of his stuff. You gotta give him a little break though. I mean damn, he’s playing Dave Lombardo’s stuff ya’know? LoL Even on his worst nights imo he’s better than most metal drummers on their best day. Dude is a machine player live 98% of the time and a very technical writer when he was needed in the studio. When it comes to Slayer though, nobody beats Dave Lombardo. Paul Bostaph never let me down at any of the shows i saw him play and as a fan, I still to this day appreciate every note the guy played. That dude had to do a lot of damage to his body playing that music night after night.

[@gentelmanjunkie542]

He's amazin but too mechanical for Slayer imo.

[@robertoricci3393]

@@richardcurtis1912 before the knee surgery in the early 2000's, Paul was a fuckin beast behind the drumset

[@InsidiousOne]

1:56 Tom: Oh crap, the 90's are already there, I need to wear my cap backwards

[@jamesbond3391]

Kerry hates tom so much because toms hair never died xD

[@christianjackson9360]

Being a fan & watching them two times, they may stop working but their recordings can't stop playing!! THRASH-ON!!!

[@metalmaniac6667]

🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@lenardmasamoc6167]

When Jeff got ill.. They need 2 guitarist to filled his role. What a legend ❤️ Rest in peace Jeff 🥲

[@michaellehmbeck8671]

Once again, Thank you Ale Yanok for uploading these great informational videos

[@williamtourville456]

Dave Lombardo looks like everyones weed dealer

[@dima.jiharev]

Maybe he is

[@jasonclark6879]

Im so glad, i saw them n their prime..87-93 when they had lombardo on drums..the best of the 4 live

[@chriscrooks8617]

Dude I did not know Jeff passed away. Glad to have met him an king back stage in 05. - R.I.P.Jeff

[@HerrCobra_762]

How did you not know Jeff died? LoL

[@WhoisVinnie]

As you guys probably know, Dave is in Testament now. I got the honor of seeing him live in person when they came to St. Petersburg on the 18th.

[@kennyevans9166]

I was at the infamous seat cushion riot at the Felt Forum in NYC in 1988. It was my first of 4 Slayer shows. The most brutal pit ever.

[@NegiTaiMetal011]

I'm glad to see and experience Slayer one more time. Though I wonder how things be like if Jeff didn't die? Would things have been different? Would Slayer go on or would they get tired?

[@MetalliBanger88]

I think they wouldve gotten tired either way. But their music before then would have been that much better with Jeff

[@WhoisVinnie]

0:30 If Jim Morrison was a metal musician

[@SLAYER.APO.VOLO.]

Kerry really does look like him 😂

[@lokiscarborough]

The cover photo for the video, THAT'S the picture you chose for Dave?!

[@darkveri3964]

2:04 rip Kerry hair

[@warface4881]

SLAYER has always been my chief band. Seen them many times, some of the best times of my life.

[@onlinetherapynetwork1830]

I don't get the aversion to Bostaph, given the cartoon hats and garbage. I can only think it's an affront to him. SLAYER is near impossible to play on drums, therefore, be thankful that Paul stepped up and killed it. I've seen SLAYER a dozen times with Paul, and have never been disappointed. Keep killing it! I hope SLAYER comes back! I refuse to believe that SLAYER is over. The Truth About Seafood. #SLAYER2023 or #2024. Just come back. OTN

[@dima.jiharev]

2:51 that transformation of Tom is hilarious 😂

[@josie1776]

Devilish look at some point.

[@WhoisVinnie]

Morph

[@WhoisVinnie]

2:40 I heard the original version of this song by T.S.O.L. on Channel X while playing GTA V before.

[@huseynaliyev5750]

Kerry King 2004 is fvcking awesome 😂 3:51

[@metal4360]

TRVE SLAV

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

These are awesome! Glad I just found your channel. Lol I didn't know Kerry King was in Megadeath for a day lmao

[@MindVersusMisery]

I started listening to metal and Slayer in 1997 shortly after the release of Undisputed Attitude, without knowing it was a cover album. So when I said "I listen to Slayer" I should have said "I listen to punk". Then I found Divine Intervention, which became my favorite album, without knowing it was considered a failure album by many longterm fans. Then they released Diabolus in Musica, which became my favorite, without knowing that Slayer started flirting with nu metal and fans being pissed about it. I loved Stain of Mind! I got a huge dose of metal eliticism right from the start. To this day - even though I like all Slayer albums - Divine Intervention and Diabolus in Musica has a special place in my metal heart.

[@YKXZWX]

King's weird transformation:lost all his hair and a pair of glasses have grown...

[@paul.kimmings1668]

who remembers those hedghogs kerry used to wear on his arms, its a wonder he ever got them through customs anyware , wonder how many nails were used in the making of those things ?

[@MiKeMiDNiTe-77]

Rest In Peace Jeff...one of the coolest dudes in metal...legend!!!

[@Rob78169]

My favorite band growing up in the 90's. Alot of metal bands were selling out in that time when grunge took over but Slayer always kicked ass!! (Except for Diabolus in Musica)

[@FanFanBessie2]

I lost track of Slayer after Seasons... Joined military and met people who introduced me to other weird / great music like Skinny Puppy and stuff. I need to dive back in and check them out. I was a big fan - I saw a Seasons show and got a pick. It was awesome! 🤘

[@NEOTHEGREAT6]

I was so lucky to have seen them twice on the Farwell tour I will never forget it 🤘🤘

[@DerVico]

Хорошая работа в видео и аудио! Легендарный бэнд!!!

[@douglaswalendzik4956]

Slayer!!! The best fucking thrash metal band EVER!! You guys fuckin ruled! You will be missed🤘🤘

[@johnpotsch7349]

Fun Fact: The slayer logo got it's look from Dave's Left handed artwork/writing style.

[@WhoisVinnie]

Paul Bostaph and Gary Holt were both in Exodus. But Paul was only there for a short time until leaving again and being replaced by Tom Hunting once again.

[@janoschp2865]

"Man made virus infecting the world!" Disciple - God hates us all (2001)

[@rufussamsquanch_6547]

Eerily prophetic.

[@thedjentleman1662]

Except the covid isn't man made

[@ED-fx7sf]

Too sad that Jeff has been past away and Dave was fired. As Slayerfan I have to say that Kerry is a Bastard and very sad that he returned after Megadeth.....

[@Miist3rDuce1]

King is better in slayer than Megadeth anyways

[@vonsopas]

One of the greatest bands ever, fond memories after their shows going home with bruises all over my arms from so much moshing....ANGEL OF DEAAAAATH!!!

[@london3618]

Love Slayer, but there is something sad about Tom after a while. The fire is gone. I blame bad management and Kerry King for not changing..

[@rockstariii5336]

Kerry "the drama" King

[@WhoisVinnie]

Pat O'Brien (Backup Touring Guitarist for Gary Holt) is from Cannibal Corpse.

[@Discipulus-beleth]

Why does Dave Lombardo low-key look like Rambo

[@josealejandroalvaradobotei8584]

Excelente vídeo saludos desde Chile grande él rock Sudaméricano 🤘🤘🇨🇱

[@greenyluv]

I HAVE NO DOUBT SLAYER WAS THE ONE N ONLY HARDCORE METAL BAND IN THE WORLD....SLAYER LOVER FROM KERALA, INDIA❤❤❤

[@dannymontoya9469]

Anyone at the Olympic Auditorium Show with Overkill, MetalChurch,DRI, and Blast. My first thrash show. Still fucking amazing.

[@ssibiu]

After Slayer, pandemia comes... Please, reunite !

[@WhoisVinnie]

You'll make Tom break his neck.

[@WhoisVinnie]

Dave Lambardo in the late 80s kinda looked like Lance from Zack and Cody

[@hunglo666]

one of the best hardcore live shows to tour

[@auralfury]

These vids r cool and creative, thanx for the uploadz \m/

[@Williameagleblanket]

Seen Slayer: 1988, 1988, 1991, 1995, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019. 🤘🎸😈💀

[@bloodnthuner]

They not only attended Monsters of Rock 1992, they performed as well...

[@andrzejaaa1355]

Without Hanneman Slayer was just a shadow of what, I saw and heard before. Interesting was playing with Pat - sometimes it was just good enough without bad feelings.

[@mrhumphries777]

Not wholly accurate. TJ Scaglione replaced Dave Lombardo for a few gigs back in , I think '86. He was sacked as he wasn't good enough and Lombardo returned.

[@Powermad-bu4em]

There it is. I was looking for this comment before I spouted off. Good call brotha!🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@WhoisVinnie]

Dave Lombardo, from looking like EdukayFun's Johny Johny's face, to Lance from Suite Life, and finally Adam Ragusea.

[@sarahwagneryost]

5:20 Gary.exe has stopped working

[@jamesbagshaw8251]

It's a shame Jeff got into such bad shape with drinking, when he was in prime form no one could touch him for guitar mastery

[@agoogleuser992]

Very well put together

[@joemarchinski914]

saw them in 88 89 at Agora ballroom in West Hrtfd CT for the South of Heaven tour,,,Sabatoge opened then MOTORHEAD played and the SLAYER !!!!! FKN AWESOME SHOW

[@CholaMunequita]

these guys were the shit to party with back in the day... Tom😍

[@santanajackson8829]

I got turned onto slayer when they came out with seasons in the abyss and that still is one of my all time favorite slayer albums . Every song on that album is fuckin badass ! Of course rain in blood is the shit too ! I got to see them 2 times and both times were when Jeff hanneman was still alive and they were the best show that I ever seen . They made motley crues show look like a complete joke !

[@Miist3rDuce1]

0:10-1:49-3:20-4:59 was my favorite lineup of slayer

[@jeffblacky]

Done a few shows in 1983 with them with a band I played , knew Dave since 1979

[@NarMattaru]

Slayer disbands in 2019 and 'till their last day Bostaph screw his double bass drum parts.

[@twikirobot6897]

The "Metal Blade" albums/eps are the best by far. Rot in Peace.

[@skywolf2012]

SLLAAAAYYYEEEER FAN HERE SINCE 94 and never looked back🤟🤟🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@ЙорданСтефановСтефанов]

How interesting for me is Kerry King's development from young Undertaker to Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[@SatanicSlayer]

2019 - Slayer disband 2020 - Covid 19 conquered the world

[@НурисламМухаметшин-р9в]

Самая конкретная группа всех времён и народов!

[@jaydoubleu3419]

true metal never dies

[@JPX64Channel]

05:20 you didnt put why dave left slayer (again)

[@scottflowe2875]

Slayer Tour dates in 2021 and 2022 . So much for the 2019 Farewell tour . But did you really think they'd quit?

[@riccardomoschitti3033]

Al di là di preferenze di generi occorre ammettere le loro qualità tecniche...in primis di Dave Lombardo, miglior batterista di sempre!

[@analogkid4557]

Seasons was the last album I liked.

[@kyles6813]

I still Get Tingle From Seasons in the Abyss! I still Miss Jeff Hanneman!