the evolution of the Abundance in Honkai: Star Rail..

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the abundance has had an evolution much like the Hunt, they had to change for the better.. with Lingsha showing us that post 2.0 identity

[@toshihsr]

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[@lillyie]

abundance back then= can heal abundance now= can heal, deal damage, provide attack buffs

[@TheEllord33]

No, she provide debuff. That's different.

[@seorinto]

They're not talking about just Lingsha, they're talking about Meta Abundance rn. HuoHuo, Lingsha and Gallagher

[@digital-underworld]

Neither Gallagher nor Lingsha provides buff only debuffs. At the moment only Huo Huo and E4 Lynx buffs anything at all in Abundance. Keep in mind buffs are applied on teammates debuffs are applied on enemies there's an important distinction there related to turn order. If Huo Huo is hybrid Abundance Harmony then Gallagher is hybrid Abundance Nihility and Lingsha is that plus Erudition.

[@seorinto]

They're not just talking all at once, Can deal damage = Gallagher, Lingsha, Provide attack buffs = HuoHuo, can heal = all of them

[@JackOFhearts12]

People here has a problem with their comprehension. Don't take everything you read the way it is just to build an argument.

[@scorpx3790]

Abundance ways to be on par with Preservation: Allow overheal ❌️ Add dmg reduction ❌️ Make em deal a f*ck ton of damage ✅️

[@EepsayYukay]

Lingsha honestly feels like a combination between Abundance and Erudition. Her Skill being an AoE attack helps a LOT in Pure Fiction/Jade teams, and she also plays a sub-DPS role in Break teams. I do wonder how they'll keep upping the ante for Sustain units in the future, though.

[@lanceducusin4696]

In my mind I call her healer jingyuan

[@daitoushoutou]

This is one of the reasons why Lingsha's value will rise on Amphoreus (Omphalos), the Ancient Greek/Greco-Roman inspired world that blends technology and fantasy, which the Astral Express will visit in 3.0+. We will frequently face 5 or more enemies on field, sometimes arranged in 2 or more rows, reminiscent of Ancient Greek infantry phalanxes, such those commanded by Alexander the Great. This also often occurs in JRPGs, including the turned-based ones which have inspired Honkai: Star Rail. On 3.x Amphoreus, many new destruction, erudition and nihility units, in that descending numerical order, very few new abundance and harmony units, and no new hunt and preservation units, appear to be planned. A highly anticipated 5* erudition unit in 3.x has already been leaked by very reliable sources. This is subject to change, of course, and take rumors and speculations with a grain of salt. For now.

[@lillyie]

@@daitoushoutou bro asked chatgpt to make a reply

[@JustanotherMDfan]

@@lillyiefr

[@marc-zf9jt]

​@@lillyie bro didn't even thought to revise it 😭

[@Totallyrealroddhoward]

It just feels crazy to me how weak enemies were around just a year ago. Like at 5:01 where only 48 thousand damage did nearly half of Gepard's health.

[@exoticbutters1760]

@@Totallyrealroddhoward fr the enemy HP inflation nowadays is crazy 😭

[@Joaquin-xq5wo]

theyre going trough what genshin went trough where they realize only healing and cleansing after so many units isnt unique and newer units actually gotta bring something new

[@arsenlkr7428]

Ngl it would be so good if there was a abundance character that could increase your health and if the heal was more then the hp lost it keeps increasing it till a certain cap and when a character would lose or consume hp it could use it's lost hp and convert the amount of health lost into damage imagine blade or jinglu with that constantly draining hp and increasing hp and damage from the character that would put them in a higher spot 😂

[@SmashTheAdam]

Increasing max HP was already done by Lynx, (her skill, and I think her ultimate too, both increase max hp) so I wouldn't be suprised if they made a 5 star with the same idea and improving on it

[@Damons11]

​@@SmashTheAdam Bailu Also increase Your max HP if you heal too much

[@SmashTheAdam]

@@Damons11 oh I didn't know about that, i never used her

[@Z3XM]

Bailu can also revived a down teammates ​@@Damons11

[@jinsoulsscalp]

That’s why shielders are generally better, because a shield is pretty much just increasing your max hp

[@LM-pg9hy]

They should make an artifcat set or planar that grants a small shield based on the excess health abundance characters provide

[@isekaiiwa2481]

I luv how they actually made a healer a sub dps,crossing roles has always been fun in my book

[@arnowisp6244]

Superbreak SUb DPS

[@Luke27WT]

summon meta is coming soon, so waiting for lingsha becoming summon aventurine) (the forbidden: OURGENERAL buff)

[@pevby]

Lingsha's bunny doesn't count as summon btw.

[@cozytraveler]

@@pevby It's in the action order just like lightning lord and numby. how is it not a summon?

[@Luke27WT]

@@pevby bro... it kinda does)

[@yokumob]

King Yuan meta incoming‼️‼️

[@Damons11]

We need abundance that can give Shield base of excess healing like that Curio in the divergent universe

[@duongnguyen-s1i]

but that kinda adds to a point shielders are better than healing, prevent one shot. vars ii made a vid about that which was very interesting to watch

[@MakoShiruba]

Luocha has this for his E2. Outside of him, nobody else does this. Bailu kind of increases Max HP if she overheals them.

[@Sunrise20403]

If this happen its overturine

[@p1p3B0mber]

As if! No way they're gonna make Preservation useless when it's the rarest path right now.

[@itshanol]

With a sustain character that I desperately need, a character that provides a fair good amount of stuff at e0s0, and best of all, summons GIANT Eevees, this character was a must pull for me. And luckily I passed the 50/50 ( at hard pity :c ) especially after properly prefarming for her. Ever since I got her I finally was able to get maximum stars on MoC, PF, and AS for the first time ever. Failing on Huohuo rerun banner was a sign to look at the true goal much later along the road. (I used the guarantee to get Robin in case if anyone's wondering)

[@danielferrieri7434]

Abundance = Healing. So they are always good and never bad.

[@joaovictordioud7242]

not really, shilding is still stronger, they are good now cuz they add way more then just survival and only on some cases

[@truefox1259]

Idk about that, Natasha is pretty bad nowadays. Just about every healer, even when you take into account E6 Natasha is just better in some way then her. And i'm not talking about the 5*'s but the 4*'s as well. Pure Healer? Lynx is just better, Lynx's heal is primarily HoT, so while at first Lynx's heal might seem weaker, when you take into account the HoT effect then the pure healing that Lynx does is greater per skill, also Lynx's skill cleanses unlike Bailus, and Lynx's ult AOE Cleanses. Need a healer that supports? Gallagher/Lingsha or HuoHuo. Need a Healer that can dish out damage? Gallagher, Luocha, and Lingsha are all decent picks. Need the emergency heal? Bailu has her revive, Luocha and Lingsha both have their emergency heals. Even if you take availability into account with Natasha being free, Lynx is also free as you get her from PF, and there's been enough 4 star pickers from events where most people should have Gallagher by now.

[@Damons11]

​@@truefox1259 Lynx skill doesnt cleanse her ult does

[@MakoShiruba]

@@joaovictordioud7242 Shields are only really good because of Aventurine and that's because his shields are not commital while adding a ton of benefits in not only preventing other statuses, but also in damage potential. Before him, nobody was talking about Preventing Damage, it was always about Restoring Health and Damage Mitigation(FuXuan).

[@marklopez2004]

​@@vitorjjgameplays5786 No you're wrong read her talents again😊

[@niko4570]

Using crit lingsha with robin and bronya feels criminal

[@Kopio01]

Im glad my BE only account has a healer now

[@alfiebeattie]

BE?

[@joaovictordioud7242]

Makes sense since the Eon is about to die

[@JackOFhearts12]

If only bailu has a teamwide cleanse. She will be a good pull.

[@stacy7721]

She makes up for it with dmg reduction and revival tho

[@JackOFhearts12]

@@stacy7721 with the kind of enemies we have today. Those are useless. Even a lynx is better than Bailu nowadays because of team wide cleanse. She got the Qiqi treatment.

[@stacy7721]

Yanqing is mor Qiqi to me in terms of kit 💀

[@JackOFhearts12]

@@stacy7721 kit? Do you know what kit is? Yanqing is a dps. Qiqi is a healer like Bailu.

[@stacy7721]

@@JackOFhearts12 👍

[@HourlongAndy-s6p]

i lost my 50/50 on topaz for bailu is this a sign

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

BLADE rerun please .-.

[@exoticbutters1760]

Are you that one person on Reddit who keeps begging for a Blade rerun LMAO

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

@@exoticbutters1760 blade rerun I’m on my knees u don’t understand

[@exoticbutters1760]

@@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 I'd KILL for a Blade rerun so I could get his S1

[@stacy7721]

​@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 now matter how u beg it won't matter

[@exoticbutters1760]

@@stacy7721 not everyone pulls for the meta man

[@wibu_berkata]

What the f is healing 🦅🦅🦅

[@DrStunJosh]

Hey man, Bailu is still remarkably viable today and can be incredible flexible. I ain’t seen anyone use Luocha is since FX release😂.

[@ena7492]

other way around. i haven't seen ANYONE use bailu since fx, luocha's the viable and flexible one whose still used in certain teams.

[@DrStunJosh]

@@ena7492 hard disagree but that’s fine. Luocha’s viability is almost explicitly tied to Blade usage. Bailu, despite lacking a cleanse, has a lot of dmg mitigation and proactive healing, so she fits well on many more teams. It’s true that HH more directly attacks her viability, but her constant healing and resurrection, plus the chance of receiving her eidolons more frequently make her a more flexible unit. Luocha is okay, but he’s been trumped in SP generation, reactive healing, and cleansing by three seperate healers.

[@ena7492]

@@DrStunJosh her lacking a cleanse is WAY worse than you think though 😭 and if you're playing high difficulty content like moc or apoc you shouldn't even need her revive to begin with. she can be a good option for newer players, but as time goes on you're REALLY going to prefer huohuo's energy regen, or gallagher's break capabilities. even luocha with his aoe dmging ult is going to be more useful than bailu's pure healing on ult. she definitely does the job of keeping you alive, but it's not even worth it when she's offering nothing else.

[@DrStunJosh]

@@ena7492 🤷🏽‍♂️ I’m a Day 1 player and I’d still happily use my tanky little dragon healer. Granted, I have E1S1 Aven and E5 Gal, both on dedicated teams. But my E2 Bailu will always get use in MoC or Abyss if I think the rotation calls for her. Her lack of cleanse is often supplemented by other team members, so it’s less a problem today as it was at launch. HH would be nice, but I’ve pulled on Ult spamming units, so she’d be wasted. And even though I have FX, I lack her signature for higher HP and ERegen, so she’s not worth using. If anything, the only time I might feel bad about the cleanse when I use a DoT team.

[@ena7492]

@@DrStunJosh well it's great that you like and use her regardless lol it's just not really true to say she's more viable than someone like luocha who at least still have teams that call for him and can be useful in pf. He's definitely went down in use after fx and hh, but if that's the case for him then bailu's even worse off. it's also unrealistic for most people to try and rely on getting eidolons of a standard character bc it's never guaranteed. i'm also a day 1 player but my bailu's still only e0.

[@znoozaros]

Got lingsha in my 1st 10-pull but then it took 180 pulls for her LC i'm so depressed

[@stacy7721]

Pull char first, then lC on rerun