The Evolving Challenges for Humanitarian Organizations with Birgitte Bischoff | TGS 160

[@treefrog3349]

As an old man I have become utterly flabbergasted by Mankind's demonstrated capacity for both good and evil. After watching a weeks-worth of discouraging world events, my hour or so of TGS usually reminds me of all the "good stuff" we are capable of. It has become a psychic "battery charge" for this cynical old curmudgeon. From Viet Nam to Gaza, I have been dumbfounded for most of my life by the vast chasm between what America says about itself and what America actually does to others. As a result, I have become about as cynical as a person can possibly be. TGS, and all of its wise and benign guests, always seems to remove some of my "crust". It seems to be a weekly reminder of all the good stuff.

[@johncarter1150]

TGS, The Good Stuff, lol

[@codyawz]

Feel the same, said better than I.

[@wallyhicks5994]

As we say here in AOTEAROA New Zealand in te reo Maori, "TAUTOKO!!!" ~ "Hear HERE!!!" ~ and thank you for saying it. We Kiwis are 5 Eyes Allies and in many ways frequally* as Bipolar as America. Indeed, we elected a Trumpian government I call Farse*Schism fully a year before you *RE* 'elected' Donald Trump again. Our TURNING was on the back of the most extraordinarily media orchestrated 'mass betrayal' that I know about in Human HisHERStory, witcheye* call Jacinda*HATE & Labour*LOATHE (including MOB a Greenie). It's like a SiCK*Ness. TGS & The GOOD* Stuff becomes even more important. It is Medicine. Treating Good Solutions. GOOD* must prevail. I've rattled on a bit. *GOOD equals "the opposite of Selfish" ~ as redefined using meta-data from 70% of the world's population by Simon Anholt & Team for 'The Good Country Index' ~ another great TGS watch here on KZbin.

[@andywilliams7989]

What a job. Thanks for presenting another Jedi Mistress of the highest quality. In the ratio of power to humility, the highest scoring individual you have yet found for us as an inspiration. Thanks❤

[@spring9603]

I love Birgitte Bischoff, she seems so humble and well meant and just a good human being.

[@d.Cog420]

Thanks very much again Nate and what an amazing person Birgitte is. I know you don’t do it for the thanks Birgitte but on behalf of the whole world, or our family at least, thanks.

[@GrampyFoster]

Just discovered your channel Nate. Thank you!

[@jolau76]

Stressing times…always nice to be updated by your show!

[@galaxy2012future]

An inspiring conversation full of wisdom and timely questions. I so look forward to a future podcast with Birgitte on progress made on addressing the polycrisis. As always, thank you Nate for exposing listeners to an incredibly wide variety of guests aware of the absolute necessity of looking at the big picture, connecting the dots and caring deeply about shifting to a more enlightened humanity that knows and lives the fact that we are all in this together, we have one beautiful alive earth to share and like it or not we are connected to all of everything and must each take responsibility to do all we can to love and care for this planet, for Life, and all it sustains.

[@johncarter1150]

Off topic, please do a segment on the impacts of the spreading H5N1 virus. Thanks!

[@kirstinseaver574]

Interesting times… be kind 🙏

[@johncarter1150]

No matter how the world goes... we can, if we try, be what we know is best,Thanks!

[@noizydan]

Do you ever get the impression that doing nothing, or even doing less is sometimes the best response? Sometimes actions have reactions that outweigh the actions, meanwhile we've spent energy on both sides and ended up in a worse position.

[@Human-le9nt]

Thank you and Brigitta for all that you do. ❤ next, could you post on the work and the conventions of the ICRC? Thx in advance and hang in there! ❤

[@c.s.102]

Thank you both so much.

[@tikotex]

Thank you...this is the door I might be uniquely qualified to help support.

[@UOCEAN2050Sweden]

Birgitte! Let's get you that bigger boat.

[@brianwheeldon4643]

Talking about a case study of for example the response of the Red Cross and Red Crescent to the massive flooding in Pakistan in 2022 where more than 33 million people were affected would be a good thing to do on your channel Nick. What did the organisation do well, what did it learn, how has it improved the forward planning for on the spot national scale emergencies and so on? I feel certain that would be a good thing to talk about publicly and to have feedback from a wider global audience. In the summer of 2024 I spent 2 months cycling Austria through to southern France, including Suisse. The climate was hugely changed from 2019. Far more humidity and ensuing effects from increased water in the atmosphere and so on. I asked people where they were going to move in the next 10 years. It's obvious these europeans are going to have to move in the next 10 to 20 years, probably northwards. The response was more often than not a shrug. People aren't consciously thinking about it yet, but it's going to happen. ATM western europe is the fastest heating region outside the polar regions. It's happening in the Magreb already and west Asia, Latin America let alone Indonesia and south east Asia. What and where are these humdreds of millions, if not billions of people going to go? Or alternatively, what is it they need to adapt? Can they adapt? Is this the sort of thinking the Red cross Red Crescent needs to engage in? It feels to me as though at some stage there's going to be a serious political overlap, and the present hegemonic system is going to be increasingly difficult to work with without ruffling more than a few feathers. It might be good to ask how many Red Cross organisations there are, and how much the various heads of these organisations earn. I know America is particularly lobsided example financial wise, but the EU is much more circumspect on releasing the earnings of its top tight knit executives. The Red Cross head in the USA earns around USDLR 873,000. Here's a comparative of a not dissimilar organisation, this for head of the Irish medecines sans frontieres- As of September 2023, the executive director of MSF Ireland, Isabel Simpson, earned an annual salary of €96,940. Thanks for this vidcast.

[@karenkoerner6015]

"We cannot wait for government to tell what you should do. It's up to us to collaborate."

[@andywilliams7989]

I had to read the first sentence twice..I thought you were anticipating instruction 😂😂

[@TheReaderOnTheWall]

1:01:00 Planet Wild is the equivalent of the red cross IMO

[@GrampyFoster]

You ask some great questiions.

[@TennesseeJed]

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[@UOCEAN2050Sweden]

The medacrisis/Polycrisis/medamodernism has a unbelievably simple solution even though it is extremely overwhelming. If given chance to explain. That the social tipping point to systemic change is on the table so to speak with Tomas Björkman Erik Fernholm Alexandre tannous PellaTheil . Only thing stopping us is.... 1* being heard. 2* collaboration Kind regards Jeroen UOCEAN 2050 Sweden

[@davebourgeois5022]

I'm interested to hear more, given I've appreciated much of what I've heard from those you name. My initial response is that your list of problems to overcome is much too brief. I would add power dynamics and established hierarchies, material concerns (inequality, precarity, tendency to derive happiness from relative rather than qualitative measures of income/wealth/lifestyle) but I hope and expect that further explanation would cover those.

[@TransitionWhatcom-hg6br]

Yes, and to add to the names you mentioned, that Nate has already interviewed, we should consider the work of Jean Gebser (The Ever-Present Origin, regarding the process of mutating structures of consciousness), Peter Pogany (Rethinking the World; Havoc: Thy Name is 21st Century, regarding adapting Gebser's archaeology of consciousness to his own thermodynamic conception of a coming Global System 3), and Kojin Karatani (Structures of World History, regarding modes of exchange in world history and a potential new "Mode D" that we might correlate also with the visions of Gebser and Pogany).

[@willwallace7894]

"Peak Oil will happen-finite resources eventually run out. But it’s not happening anytime soon, certainly not within the next few years, and possibly not for a few more decades." -- Art Berman Jan, 2025

[@cookinghot9512]

really? art said that? lol🤣

[@TransitionWhatcom-hg6br]

Nate needs to get Art back on TGS ASAP to explain his Jan. 21, 2025 blog post, because it seems to contradict what he has said in the past.

[@opossumboyo]

I don’t think that particuarally contrasts Nate’s views or the views of most on this podcast. Oil will become harder and harder to extract and refine in coming decades until eventually it is no longer a viable choice; likely by the time that comes about environmental and geopolitical issues will far outweigh the oil crisis as primary concerns. Or have I misinterpreted something?

[@barrycarter8276]

I struggled Nate to get around to viewing/listening to your conversation with Birgitte Bischoff as normally I’m eager to view them. Why the lost eagerness, well I’m afraid with your friend and colleague Art Berman’s articles “Climate Fatigue: Why the Story of Saving the Planet Isn’t Selling”, and “Lazy Thinking: How Memes Get Oil All Wrong” this one in particular Nate as Art’s done a complete U-turn on what he’s led us to believe as he now aligns with Doomberg (aka allegedly Keith Watson and Co) I’ve nothing against Doomberg it’s just this is what Art said of it/them in relation to Peak Cheap Oil “Seems that @DoombergT believes in the technology deus ex machina infantile fantasy” and “It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing". So now the REnewables Transition, if ever there was to be a viable transition, was impeded because Climate Change/CO2 in Art’s words “The climate story was told badly”, and nobody is going to give up FREE FINITE Flammable Fossils (FFFF’s) willingly, and with Art basically telling us there’re decades maybe even a century or more

[@shamirkeren3954]

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[@johnbanach3875]

Nate REALLY, REALLY has to get this guy on his show. This is way over Rachel's head.

[@dermotmeuchner2416]

He does it was a great interview.

[@johnbanach3875]

@@dermotmeuchner2416 When?

[@shamirkeren3954]

its not above her head.like i do,​she was learning new use for the same words.kearning new kanguage live. i feel its impirtant for me,to have more,with a different interaction,and to get mire clarity,as for the machine they are building,and what kind of implications,and to think on social models that can work with that. @@johnbanach3875

[@SeegerInstitute]

May I suggest that the term migrant is it fairly new racist term that we’ve added to the lexicon recently. The term is immigrant. I’m not sure that that is less of a controversial term historically however migrant it seems definitely has connotations of racism that perhaps we should not reinforce?

[@TasNessMess]

Here in Australia I have noticed that the MMM are moving towards generally using the word migrant instead of sometimes other appropriate words for newcomers to our country such as asylum-seeker or refugee. Very disturbing.

[@andywilliams7989]

I think we have bigger problems than a few privileged people's subjectivity. A migrant is someone who migrates, legally or no..an immigrant is someone who has migrated and been regularised into the host society. The problem isn't in the words, which are both technically correct when applied in their respective contexts, the problem is human society not having a strategy that allows for peace and stability everywhere, so that people don't have to migrate, but can opt to immigrate through cultural curiosity instead of migrating through necessity. Most of that neccesity being caused by the continued colonial attitudes of the countries where people have the luxury to be offended on other people's behalf.

[@SeegerInstitute]

@ I think your response is well intended, and I appreciate that and colonialization does have very much to do with it, but if you really look at the reason, people are forced to migrate. It’s because a colonial extraction has allowed countries with power to use force to go into local indigenous communities and disrupt them through extraction and destruction of, holistic sustainable cultures and food systems and broken local cultures apart, destroying their economy by wreaking havoc on their natural resources and the stability. The reason I in particular about the words is for the same reason that you are immigration requires an orderly acceptance of people traveling by a host company country migrate is a term that at least in the current context is derogatory implied to place the blame for economics situation locally on other people moving in order to survive. The United States along with the CIA for roughly 100 years actively going into other countries and you serve their natural resources and used force, power, disrupt, economies, destroy, and extract natural resources, leaving people no other choice, but to flee their own countries for safety and stability, and to provide for themselves. At this point, our best efforts would be put to using all of our resources to help people grow food locally. I don’t think that you can actively establish democracy, but I do believe if you start creating an abundance of natural resources and different places as much as possible people to produce the best chance of migration and helping them to establish peace it’s not a matter of giving people resources. It’s a matter of giving them the opportunity to create those resources for themselves locally. We talk about it in the Bible, it’s better to teach people how to fish to give them fish, I wish we would pass out fishing poles all over the world

[@andywilliams7989]

@SeegerInstitute exactly why I do what I do. What we forget in Europe is that we got colonised a long time ago..we have had our connection to the earth beaten and burned out of us and now get fat as the same force does it to the rest of the world.. yes my reply was well intended and well intentioned, with a slight push pack on the 'overuse' of semantics (even though they are ultimately very important) I have worked with lots of migrants and I am an immigrant living and adapting in a host country and culture not my own (but not that different either) and I can clearly tell you that a migrant worker on a building site keeping his head down and suppressing his talents so that the racists don't denounce him through jealousy...that guy, playing the role of the dumb savage...he doesn't care what you call him as long as he can come to work and earn his way out of the hole he is in. The other reason for pushing back is that the last ten years have shown us that whining about semantics is not a winning strategy, never was, never will be, it must take a back seat, it is always perceived by the people who count (the poor and the workers) as condescending rules from the 'useless thinkers' in the class above...thanks for the great reply. 🙏

[@SeegerInstitute]

@ thank you sir. My grandfather sold shoe leather and lived in a small apartment in New York with only Coldwater. My mother came from Europe with nothing. I grew up, not understanding the contrast between wealth and poverty. My mother‘s experience made me understand that everything can be taken away from you overnight. I have spent my life developing alternative forms of wealth. Skills and knowledge so that I can go anywhere in the world at any time and survive. I can build a house I can fix a car I can put shoes on a horse. I can grow food I can milk a goat and chickens and apples and bananas. Now I think I’m the richest man in the world I live on a farm in Hawaii with 1000 animals on 100 acres. I work 90 hours a week or more taking care of the farm and trying to teach people and help others. the world is now in a place that has never been before. In the Bible, they talk about the meek inheriting the earth. These wealthy people have created a form of wealth, which is very very fragile much more so than they realize. You cannot eat money and when things change and they will change in the very near future the wealth will be in the form of community and trust and working together and learning how to grow food and share it. The best place for me to store extra food is in my neighbors stomach and the best way for me to keep myself safe to try to make sure that everyone within 100 miles of me has enough food and has the ability to grow their own food. Right now as things change the wealthy people will have a wake up call. my work is to try to wake up a few of them to make them realize climate change is an opportunity to get beyond superficial differences. We pray the color of our skin or language to come to realize that we are all in this together. If we blow up the planet, there will be no survivors and there is no going to Mars. I think we realize that we have to take care of the planet and invest in our children in the hope that they will make things better. That’s the best we can do and try to see our differences and we can lay the foundation for a better future for those who will come after us and come to realize it’s not about us that we are part of a long story and hopefully we are not the last page and that story, hope your day is peaceful and blessed if you find yourself in Hawaii come and visit

[@UOCEAN2050Sweden]

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[@chris4973]

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