The Expanse 1x10 Reaction | Leviathan Wakes

[@funnylilgalreacts]

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[@petersmith6513]

Remember the CA(n)T!

[@grimm516]

Lol that's funny 😁

[@grafffuller3265]

Yes, there are some GREAT fan made recaps and blooper reels. Thanks for sharing this one with us...we loved it when it came out...and we loved it again. Thanks.

[@Hieronymus82]

Aww even in the recap Julie Meow is gorgeous, before being infected with evil blue yarn.

[@mccollumparkfarmersmarket7836]

You'd love the books David Drake's " with the lightings " its like space Horatio hornblower

[@Hoidds]

Being a belter Miller got weaker body that a healthy earther like Holden would have , i believe thats the reason why miller was affected by the radiation faster.

[@Icypenguigo]

Holden's also a lot younger and healthier than Miller, which helps him a little. As much as it can anyway, when you're force-fed a mega dose of radiation.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Also, years of alcoholism

[@michaelgonzalez6295]

And Holden being genetically manipulated. At the least, if the technology exists to splice 8 different person's DNA into 1 and the "parents" could afford it, they would have the good sense to remove recessive traits if possible if not enhance him.

[@DeFrancoFollower]

@@michaelgonzalez6295 there's 0 evidence of any genetic changes except that he has DNA from all his parents

[@michaelgonzalez6295]

@@DeFrancoFollower Enhancement beyond current human norms, true, is specilation. But the implications of removing recessive traits, which is in itself an enhancement are all there. Splicing and dicing is there. The genome was mapped more than 150 years before Season 1 There must be a science based test to prove there that there is enough DNA from the 8. And to make James the crusader, they would not create a non-viable child (duh), or one who has to struggle with his own imperfections as well as the government.🤔

[@xtifr]

Gotta love Chrisjen. When she thinks things might be getting dangerous, her reaction is to get her _husband_ to safety! Not herself! Hollywood doesn't have a lot of badass grandmas, and she's pretty near the top of the list!

[@kirkdarling4120]

That is a turnabout from the usual trope of the powerful man getting his wife to safety.

[@FreemanicParacusia]

I really wish Brian George had been able to reprise the role of her husband later in the show. Most awkward casting move of the series.

[@AndrewMasuda]

If you had a cinnamon roll like Arjun Avasarala you'd get him to safety too.

[@AL-fl4jk]

“…… I actually really don’t want Miller to die 😢” Got ‘er

[@steriopticon2687]

hehe

[@billross7245]

Love that Chrisjen says she's safe as long as she plays an old fool, but she knows what's going on. That's Chrisjen's stealth magic.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

Definitely a “chess not checkers” thinker

[@FreemanicParacusia]

Fun fact - Phoebe, where the Anubis got the Protomolecule from, is a real-life moon of Saturn. What makes it interesting is that it orbits the planet in the opposite direction from the rest of its moons, leading to the theory that it is an extrasolar capture.

[@TCrimson05t]

I just love the evolution of her feelings on Miller. This has been a fascinating react for me as someone who's such a big fan of the show. See which characters people like, dislike or end up growing on them.

[@heartflame503]

He probably will still taste like fish ...

[@michaelthorsen5354]

16:30 The title of ep. #1, Dulcinea, refers to Don Quixote's idealized lady fair, the woman he strives to be worthy of. Miller fell in love with Julie sight unseen, or with the idea of her. Now he finds himself being judged by her, and feeling her disapproval. It becomes a warning to his subconscious that he needs to do better to measure up to his Dulcinea. Why isn't Holden as poor off as Miller obviously is. Remember what the Ceres coroner told us. Life expectancy on Earth and Mars are more than double that in the Belt. Holden was constructed from his eight parents' DNA by the best geneticist available, probably with a lack of recessive traits, and he was raised in the best of all possible conditions. Miller started life with all the disadvantages his environment could heap upon him. Even before the killer dose of hard radiation, he was in distressed condition from the get-go.

[@Icypenguigo]

Holden and Miller's interactions are interesting because they have diametrically opposed philosophies. Holden is an idealist, Miller is a nihilist. Holden would like all the perpetrators of Eros to stand trial and be brought to justice. Miller's ok with casually murdering them because he thinks the universe is a better place without them in it. It's a set of differences they'll never really be able to reconcile, although they do rub off on each other a bit in certain ways. And the saga of Eros is far from over. The events that transpire in this episode are going to have profound and far-reaching consequences. And the so-called bio-weapon? It's existentially terrifying in ways that none of the main characters have realized yet. Amos is an utterly fantastic character, and easy on the eyes to boot! And I say that as a straight dude! LOL. Holden has a line in one of the books where he compares Amos to a pit bull: He can be extremely dangerous when he wants to be, but he's loyal to a fault and you just wanna hug him. All the characters in this show evolve and develop in interesting ways, but Amos has perhaps the most complex and challenging backstory of any of them, which you will learn about in detail eventually(plus the show drops lots of little hints towards it along the way). I think it's safe to say that Amos is one of the biggest fan-favorite characters. Looking forward to seeing your reaction to the next episode. It will be introducing another new main-ish character, and one of my absolute favorites as well. On to season 2!

[@tadcooper9733]

its also really funny that people in the show liken Holden to Don Quixote when in reality Miller is the one who is Don Quixote.

[@Harv72b]

It's not an integral part of the plot, but those "pencils"/data storage devices are yet another example of the attention to detail you get with The Expanse. Everything in this future has gone digital--that's hinted at when Avasarala comments on Holden's mother's collection of real books, and shown by the ubiquitous presence of handheld digital terminals. So it stands to reason that the kind of overpriced, kitschy data drives a top politician with a romantic streak would use would be modeled on an archaic device like a wooden pencil.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yes, and they showed DeGraaf writing with those pencils into a paper notebook nearly every time we saw him. His old friend would know he was not merely eccentric.

[@Morogonaiwolf]

People could think he does it for securety concerns. Paper cannot be hacked. And those pencils are a great way to smuggle data.

[@BenjCano2020]

Frank DeGraff was from Earth and part of the same diplomatic corps that Crisjen and her father were part of. He was also the Ambassador TO Mars, and obviously very much in love with the planet and culture. He wanted to retire to Mars, which is why being banned from that after Crisjen's play was so devastating to him. But he still had connections to access the drive records of the ships that Crisjen found. Normally, drive schematics aren't significant, but when you find that they're installed on a secret fleet of stealth ships....

[@mikecarson8601]

Amos is VERY protective of children. Like a mama bear.

[@jameshartley5]

"I'm sorry, he can have his hat back." That's the sweetest, funniest thing you've said!

[@Daividox]

"I don't want Miller to die..." *a few episodes ago* "I don't like him. He looks like he smells like fish."

[@connorhalo]

Thomas Jane did such an amazing job this season going from a guy you begrudgingly follow along with to a guy you really want to root for.

[@pwph8361]

'I don't want Miller to die....' warmed my heart. I had a feeling you'd come round 💖. Also, yes, we love Amos... pine away 😁😁

[@NigelSmith72]

The strong feelings never end in the Expanse....right up to the last episode. You're going to love it so much :)

[@Arkalius80]

Amos (aka murder snuggles) is a wonderful character. He is generally pretty cold as a person, but has a soft spot for children. I know you'll enjoy the slow burn of learning about why he is the person he is.

[@jebus7679]

Miller really does have a way of growing on you. It's easy to dislike Miller as just an asshole until you get to know him and realize that he's an asshole with his own code that he lives by. Even if you don't always agree with his code, there's still something admirable about that. I mean, he's dying of radiation poisoning and has finally made his way clear, found his only path that could lead to a possibility of survival, but he just can't go without settling things up for Havelock. This show has so many characters with their own stories weaving in and out of the grand tapestry, that it only makes sense to have longer intros than outros. There's just so much to digest and process that it all needs time to sift through and it's really hard to do fresh out of the episode.

[@thetankgarage]

Miller got worse because he's a belter. It's played with in lots of sci-fi I've noticed, the captain in Andromeda, the security officers in The Orville etc.

[@jamesholland5761]

Wow! I knew I was going to enjoy your journey in this masterpiece but you really are hooked! Welcome to the family Beratna! Fellow Screaming Firehawk! And to think, it only gets better! Other commenters already pointed out why Miller was effected sooner than Holden. There are many layers to each characters being explored in this story. I could explore each one in this episode but it would take hours! Holden's morality is tested here and watching Miller is very hard for him but there is an admiration to it! Amos- aka murder snuggles! I'm a straight male but I love this guy!! He's my Dude! As another reactor has expressed! Chrisjen is our Queen! Period! So looking forward to season two!

[@Grunstag]

Always a great reaction and commentary. Compliments to editor also.

[@detrix42]

Every episode is better than the one before. Every season is better than the one before. This show deserves some Emmy awards. This show as some of the best writing, acting, and sci-fi CGI. I would like to warn you a bit. Some episodes will have you in tears. Have some tissue near by. When this show pull at your heart strings, they pull really hard.

[@RyanLokan]

I really enjoy seeing you open up to the series so emphatically. Keep up the fantastic work with these reactions and insights.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

Thank you!

[@Iwoqvossik]

I can't wait for you to start covering S2, if I have a bit of extra cash this month I might even become a patron. I love the whole series, but S2 is my favorite overall.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

I’m loving season 2 so far!

[@artdogg50]

@@funnylilgalreacts Oh you're already watching it, I love it. Hopefully that means we'll have a video soon. 😉

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

Season 2 is great. 3 is my personal fave. But it's all good.

[@adriancooper78]

@@funnylilgalreacts Oh you ain't seen nothing yet!! If you're in Season 2 the Expanse adventure is just beginning for you😃 Enjoy.

[@alexthegreat398]

The actor for Miller had a lot of fun throwing up so he asked for more soup for the sole purpose of having more vomit scenes

[@artboymoy]

It's the catching it in the hands thing that amuses me.

[@silafuyang8675]

@@artboymoy Better in the hands than on the clothes.

[@artboymoy]

@@silafuyang8675 I just lean over and let it hit he floor.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

@@artboymoy let the vomit hit the floor, let the vomit hit the floor, let the vomit hit the flooooooooooooorrrrr

[@LadyBeyondTheWall]

@@artboymoy Yeah that cracks me up, because I've absolutely done that before! It just happened without my even thinking about it, lol. My stupid body was trying to protect the floor I guess?

[@Sir_AlexxTv]

I love Miller and the actor who plays him so much ....

[@ranialian8537]

I love Miller. I agree that Thomas Jane did a fantastic job with him. PS. I see Flint, I like 😊 My love for the masterpiece that is Black Sails knows no bounds.

[@Sir_AlexxTv]

@@ranialian8537 Amazing writers on Black Sails ...

[@oldinion]

So many relevant questions being asked pre-episode it's awesome.

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

I've said it before and I'll say it forever, these books and show are a masterclass in character writing and development. Just...chef's kiss.

[@Jay_Chang612]

I’m 2 years late. Sorry. Just found this amazing reaction channel. All I gotta say is. I wish somebody would look at me like you do to Amos. Haha I love it. The expanse is one of my fav sci-fi shows. I’m going to watch all of ur reactions

[@CC-iy6wx]

Great reaction! If you are this emotionally invested already, I can't wait to see your reaction to future episodes.

[@hoos3014]

Funnylilgal down bad! Crying and damn near hyperventilating at two characters being injured...I don't know how she makes it through the next set of episodes. I love it.

[@murciadoxial8056]

now you have reached the level 1 out of 10 of the craziness scale, get ready

[@reverance_pavane]

One of the peculiarities of radiation exposure is that one of the initial symptoms of exposure is that you feel pretty good. Probably because your microbiota is generally pretty much cactus. But then the nausea, weakness, and bleeding hits as your cells, particularly skin cells, starts dying. And then you get the pain, seizures, and effects of serious nerve and organ damage. You can still potentially survive an otherwise "fatal" dose with medical attention, although you will be extremely debilitated and essentially relying on life support to keep you alive. Although in this case it was a close thing; "hospice" mode is, I suspect, purely palliative (as in a setting to make the patient's death relatively painless). [And this ignores long-term effects such as cancers. The lowered modern radiation limits are due to the fact that the stochastic effects of even light radiation exposure were much more severe than most people originally imagined.]

[@dumpsterdawg]

Great reaction. Editor deserves a raise.🙃👍

[@MindFeather]

just ... thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you -- for all that you do.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

You are very welcome

[@KingApeiron]

You always post these as I am in bed looking for something to fall asleep to... Perfect timing. I love watching the rest the following day 😂

[@neilmerrifield2281]

Great reaction. Its a testament to how well the show is written that you bonded with all the characters. Loads more twists and turns to come. One of the best shows on tv in the last ten yrs. Love how youve fallen in love with so quickly. Cant wait to watch more of your reactions. :)

[@danieln2421]

Wheel of Time!!! It's Aaaaaa-mazing! 😊

[@kelliehowe7650]

I've just discovered your channel and really enjoying it. It's helping me get thru a busted wrist. I found myself telling you to breathe at the beginning, even knowing this is the past. Thank you.

[@Thyrwyn]

I will never be able to say enough about the writing on this show. The characters - all of the characters (not just the principals) are all driven by their natures: they aren't just cogs fulfilling a role, or serving the plot. That's not to say that they don't drive the plot - because they do - but the plot seems to emerge from who they are, rather than the other way around. (And yes, I know that that is not how writing works. But good writing makes us believe that whatever choices characters make, any other choice would have been 'out of character'. ) Amos and Chrisjen only get better.

[@ThePartisan13]

Seeing her tear up at Miller dying was genuinely surprising considering her commentary on him.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

Oh wait till season two episode four and five

[@ThePartisan13]

@@funnylilgalreacts Oh shit, I know what you mean. I'm expecting buckets of ugly crying, lol.

[@artdogg50]

@@funnylilgalreacts Wow you're that far ahead.

[@PlacidDragon]

There are lots of mysteries, and you are touching upon a number of them. I cant say more than that :D You are not supposed to understand any of it yet, and watching you theorize is truly part of the fun :)

[@wtimmins]

Man. I love all these characters so much. Want to cuddle Amos... But MAN I love Avarasarala. She is queen.

[@yomamma.ismydaddy216]

I wasn’t quite sure what to expect from your reaction when you seeing Amos shoot millers friend, wasn’t quite expecting a “I love Amos” moment tho 😂😂

[@Krusesensei]

You know, 8 episodes ago, when you could not really get hooked on the show? What a 180 turn :) And the show stay that's emotional over the next seasons!

[@professorhelmling6059]

Don’t know who told you not to overthink it. You’re asking all the right questions.

[@aaronkay4294]

really luv hearing u talk, and your takes on this show

[@TonyGonzales]

Thanks a bunch for the bonus round, this was a pleasant surprise. This show is littered with intriguing characters, a lot of small interactions are left on the cutting room floor but I do believe the authors and the rest of the crew whittled it all down in the best way they could have, especially considering all of the juggling going on behind the scenes.

[@o-wolf]

Watching your evolution from hating miller's guts to being close to tears at him on the verge of death... Gotdamn this show

[@michaelmaguire4147]

The "everything I loved was dying" was a reference to the work he was doing with his family, environmental protection stuff.

[@hawkthorn33]

Episode one, "Gah Miller and his stupid hat!' Episode 10 "I'm sorry, you can have your hat back!" Yeah this show does that with all the "main" players. Oh, if you were wondering, season 2 picks up speed. So get a good seatbelt, and tissues.

[@Wampor]

You have a really enjoyable way of reacting and commenting. Very cool video cutting, too. :)

[@rotututuru]

2 expanse video this week??? I'm certainly not gonna complain

[@funnylilgalreacts]

😏

[@thatlonewolfguy2878]

24:44 ngl for some reason you saying "atta boy" is so satisfying idk why xD

[@petersmith6513]

I'm sure somebody else has already mentioned this, but if you want some perspective on the size of the Nauvoo, in the books it's described as "so huge four Donnager-class Martian warships can be tucked inside and still have room to spare".

[@artdogg50]

I remember season 2 seeming like it took forever to get here. I am glad you don't have to wait like that too like you talked about.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

I’m so happy I get to watch it immediately after finishing season 1. That cliffhanger would’ve killed me!

[@davidedwards1705]

29:28 THAT look. Right there. We all shared that look when it first aired. Can't wait to see how your theory changes now.

[@vorpalrobot]

And now you see where the missing riot gear from Ceres ended up, as well as the Loca Griegas gang that left the water funneling operation with the kid Diogo.

[@jenssylvesterwesemann7980]

The dribble (or: buns) is what makes your videos very distinct. I love those musings! Looking forward to the videos to come. Edit: some unsolicited recommendation coming up. If you want to cover more very well written hard SF in the future, you could choose "For All Mankind" on Apple TV+. It's a show that starts from the question: how would things have developed if the Soviet Union actually had been to the Moon first, back in 1969. It's equally riveting as "The Expanse", coming from Ronald D. Moore, the guy who did the excellent re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series in 2004.

[@pssthpok]

Thank you for the great reaction, I can tell you really appreciate this show. New subscriber, I was a little concerned for you while you were getting emotional. Not for now, but there will be an emotional price to pay for some of the staggeringly beautiful scenes and plot lines that are coming. They are all worth it, though!

[@TheDreadSpartan]

YAYYY for team Amos!!! :D AmosAmosAmosAmosAmosAmos!!! 'Murdersnuggles'!! I love it when characters are Amos-ly coded. :D Your reactions to this are going to be the highlight of my week. :)

[@Crimsonphotog]

Great Reaction.. thanks for sharing.

[@nathanmead9585]

Think about this as a cliffhanger...when you don't know if there'll be a second season. Flashbacks to Battlestar Galactica 😅

[@vicmanpergar]

Please, don't make any pause between seasons, lol, I can't wait. Btw, I love Miller's character. It's one of my favs along with another I can't mention yet.

[@LeeCarlson]

Remember that Havelock survived being crucified by Kathari, so we know that the medical acumen has advanced quite a bit.

[@grimm516]

Just a fun little tid bit the name of the episode is that name of the first book. And that it's the same for all the books hahah

[@doctor8342]

One of the best scenes with Amos next episode!

[@funnylilgalreacts]

The coffee meeting between two dudes? Yep 😈

[@nealaluna]

Great insight as always. Hugs for the fear of losing Miller. I felt the same way. Just a heads up about the Ty and That Guy podcast: There are a couple of unintentional Season 5 spoilers in the early episodes of the podcast, so maybe hold off on watching it until your second watch of The Expanse. Yes, you know you're going to rewatch, and watch episode by episode in tandem with the podcast. Enjoy!

[@pali1d]

It's okay to be all-in on Amos's sexiness. Even us straight guys understand it. Loving the reactions so far, and the show is only going to get better. Some answers are on their way, but so are new questions... and perhaps most importantly, some new characters that I look forward to seeing your take on. :)

[@funnylilgalreacts]

There are a few in particular that I’m loving more and more as time goes on 😉

[@grimm516]

It's almost time... :) 😀

[@erickknutz5599]

The simple fact that reactors feel it necessary to expound on details of what they've watched and make predictions for future episodes, really shows why this series is so amazing. Instead of dumbing down for audiences and constantly using endless exposition, the creators chose to trust the audience and concentrate on suspense, intrigue, and plot twists that when fully explained much later it just creates that WOW factor for Sci Fi lovers. Or really anyone that loves good story telling.

[@jamesanderton8817]

Watching you thirst over Wes Chatham makes me giggle. I, as a straight man, also thirsts over him. Without a doubt my favorite character from any show.

[@jakeand9020]

"that's not going to go well for you with Amos." Showing she knows Amos, but then doubting him. How could you doubt Amos?

[@michaelmaguire4147]

Oh boy, the look on my face several episodes ago when you were talking about "every time you start to like a character they die" and then jokingly said you liked miller so he would die.

[@jaiverdeorta1295]

Nice reaction. So many shows have memorable OMG moments but im not sure any have as many WTF moments as The Expanse.:) Strap in cause S2 and S3 Expand in sacle and intensity.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

Expansion of the Expanse 😎 I’m ready!

[@caribbeanman3379]

Miller is probably significantly older than Holden so it makes sense that his body would deteriorate faster from radiation exposure.

[@rickyhunt4075]

Great reaction and love the Nirvana shirt 👍

[@LeeCarlson]

Holden and Miller were hit by sufficient radiation in the bunker to immediately turn a dosimeter black.

[@richb313]

You are starting to learn the nature of the characters in this show I can tell you this next week will be enlightening.

[@NewAeonWarlord]

Sweet reaction! Can't wait for you doing season 2 and also meet 2 new characters (one of which is probably my favourite in the show)! Why does Holden know they were hit with a deadly dose of radiation? Because his hand terminal warned him about that. Those things have built in detectors for stuff like that for savety reasons. You can see the red radiation hazard symbol flashing on his screen when it happens. I guess he didn't react faster because he was still in disbelieve about what he was witnessing.

[@bthsr7113]

People have compared The Expanse to Game of Thrones for the political intrigue and multiple POV characters spread around. To further the analogy, the Protomolecule could be likened to the White Walkers in the early days. A fantastical, unknown other in an otherwise grounded setting which we initially only glimpse in the first episode.

[@m.e.3862]

So ends the detective story and now begins the monster movie 🙂

[@theicaruscollective6811]

Seems like your reaction to Holden & Miller's conditions was especially powerful because of your personal professional experience working with radiation and your awareness of its effects. Cool to see. Thankfully, (as you've seen by now, given that your Patreon is apparently a couple weeks ahead), they have really advanced medicine in this future... yay!

[@bthsr7113]

"Being in charge is a shit job." Amen, at least if you're being a good leader.

[@appo9357]

@26:48 That’s how guys great each other in general. 👍🏼

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

When you get through the series, the actor who plays Amos has a podcast with one of the writers of the books. I think I'll wait to tell you the name of it until after a certain point in the show because the title is not really spoiler-y but kinda maybe is? Anyway, I think you would enjoy it. They go over each episode and also talk film and life and sometimes have the other actors on as guests.

[@paultwyman7985]

Another heartfelt reaction enjoyed! ❤️‍🩹 Always try to remember: Don't have a good day..... Have a Great day! 👕

[@thegeneralmitch]

Watched the series then read/ listened to the books. coming back to the series and seeing what changed feels weird. xD

[@williamsovich8314]

The reason that Miller got sick faster is because his immune system and overall health was a lot worse. It was stated in a earlier episode that he was an orphan on the station and had gotten inferior/expired immune /growth supplementation shots. That’s also the cause of the messed up spine protuberance on his neck.

[@danielskinner5346]

The name of the security company is CMP Carne de la Machina.

[@fakecubed]

Everyone pretty much loves Amos at this point in the story, but you haven't seen anything yet. He's probably the favorite character in the whole series for most viewers and most of his best moments are still ahead. I should also say you haven't even met a bunch of characters who will also be competing *hard* to be your favorites. The best part of The Expanse is the characters, and you will love pretty much all of them. Those you don't love, you'll love to hate.

[@cliveklg7739]

Don't mind the long commentaries at all. I like to hear from fellow fans. 'true to science' relative to 300+ years in the future, and using a lot of theoretic science. Obviously if you can regrow limb, other regenerative science would be pretty good as well. "Is it AI? Is it a living thing?" Yes. 🤣🤣🤣 No seriously, you actually have guessed a couple things correctly. Just won't say what. :) Oh and something to note for season 3. Don't watch the opening credits. They have a spoiler.

[@Dynnen]

Welcome to the Screaming Firehawks!

[@scelonferdi]

The stairwell isn't as scary as it looks. Eros has 0.3 g centrifugal accelaration at it's surface. The closer to the axis of rotation you go, the lower it gets but even at the edge 0.3 is very manageable. You could propably just catch the ladder again if you slip and holding on does take a third of the effort it does on earth.

[@LeeCarlson]

Saying that Naomi is OPA is sort of like a post-Civil War American saying that somebody is "an Indian." Every faction of the OPA is like a different Indigenous Nation, made up of many tribes.

[@Jonathan-ug9yu]

Season 2 and season 3 go so hard

[@Yesquire0]

They told you Fred Johnson was responsible for the destruction of Anderson Station. They showed you he was not. It was one of the best written episodes in the series, showing you how an innocent man could be scapegoated for something he did not do. Maybe the writing was a bit too good, as it seems most people simply hear Naomi say it (she had no personal knowledge of the event), and then accept it as the truth, and cannot be swayed by the content of the flashback scenes, which show Johnson doing nothing but standing dumbstruck outside the ship in boarding gear.

[@Jabberwocky415]

I’m pretty sure he gave the order to attack though. He wasn’t looking dumbstruck, he has a neutral expression.

[@TheKonkaman]

@@Jabberwocky415 Fred Johnson wasnt told they has unconditionally surrendered, until afterwards thats why he joined the opa

[@Yesquire0]

@@Jabberwocky415 I suppose we each can view his body language and what little we can see of his face in our own way, colored by how we interpreted the flashbacks as a whole. If the point of the episode was to present him as The Butcher of Anderson Station, why not depict him as giving the order? Why not give him the rank of ship's captain and presumably the one to issue that death sentence? "Colonel" is a Marine rank, not a naval one. Col. Johnson was merely a passenger on a navy ship, ferried to Anderson Station to board it with his squad of Marines. Afterwards, we know he resigned his commission, and eventually became a leader in the OPA. He probably wanted to be a Marine officer for his entire life, and he walked away from that dream. And the OPA accepted him. None of that would have likely to have happened if he had been the man who gave the order to butcher dozens of Belter civilians. His resignation, which I admit is implied, but very clearly must have happened, and his acceptance by Belters, are clear indications he had no role in the decision to blow up Anderson Station. Concluding he was pegged as a scapegoat by UN/Naval command explains events perfectly. The beauty of this episode is that so many viewers swallowed rumors built upon propaganda and not only accepted the idea of Fred being the Butcher, but hold on to their position and try to argue it when the flashbacks do not show Johnson either presenting a plan to blow up the station or giving the Order.

[@hoos3014]

I know she's already seen Episode 202, but please be careful about discussing future events.

[@Yesquire0]

@@hoos3014 ????????????????????

[@volnay853]

Just heard about a spin off series being planned in this universe, as well as a planned season 7.

[@hoos3014]

False (premature) rumors

[@blackpaw29]

Yup, Amos and kids... Its quality melting time.

[@mccollumparkfarmersmarket7836]

10:13 ... lost my text. Well said.