The Expanse - 2x5 Home - Group Reaction

This episode has to be some of the best TV ive seen in years! I feel like every scene was perfect and this was SO HARD TO EDIT. I hope you guys enjoy it as much as we did. ALSO A SIDE NOTE yes guys we talk a bit during the reaction but what you guys dont know is that we do have subtitles in the copy we watch. So we know whats going on. Than you guys again so much for all the support! - Nahid
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[@whitenoise7980]

Both Miller and Julie had visions of each other. As Julie was lying in the hotel room on Eros, she saw Miller walking towards her. Miller saw Julie in the arcade on Eros, in the airlock of the Rocinante, in the belter kid's apartment as he was cutting his hair, and finally in the FedEx container during the assault on spin station. Miller is the only person who came for Julie. Julie gave Miller something to believe in, something worth fighting for.

[@ThePunikaTV]

But how could Julie have visions of Miller? She has never seen him or even knows that he exists

[@johnjungkook2721]

@@ThePunikaTV At this point, we don't know the full extent of how the proto-molecule works. That's my only guess. Maybe Julie was infected and it made her sensitive to people who were looking for her. It makes sense considering that her father was working on it for so long that it may have affected her early on. Or maybe Miller was also infected somehow.

[@dinakasper7575]

@thepunikatv I read somewhere that when they met and kissed, it sent ripples through space-time and that's what each of them were seeing. They were universe-mates.

[@nachoIibre]

@@ThePunikaTV Well it detected the missile launch all the way from Earth. I think think the impending danger of the Ship coming to nudge Eros activated the protomolecule before it was fully ready, so it had to reconstruct Julie and depend on her mind to process stuff. As a result it lost some control to her. And just like it detected incoming threats, it also detected Miller as the only ally, as he's the only one that was genuinely looking for Julie without any harmful intentions. That was probably the case right from when she was infected, that's why she had a vision of him as she was dying.

[@dapeach06]

It felt like a Season Finale because this was the finale of the 1st book. The rest of Season 2 covers the first 2/3 of Book 2. There was too much story to do to have it be 1 Season per book, but some things get condensed, others get expanded upon or added. IIRC Thomas Jane and Florence Faivre said that the kiss was improvised on set, not scripted, that they felt the energy of the scene and just went for it.

[@KainErrow]

Muad'dib2288 If I was doing a scene with her, I'd have probably just gone for it, too. "I'm gonna be glowing blue afterward? Totally worth it."

[@prophetofgreed]

I'd say Season 1 had the benefit of having Avasarala's point of view from the beginning instead of having her introduced in the second book to push more time. We also get Bobbie introduced before the beginning of book 2 as well to add a Martian perspective to some of book 1's events like Mars' moon being blown to smithereens.

[@KainErrow]

prophetofgreed Bobbi also feels more legit in the show to me. The old rule of "Soldier's Obey" made her actions and how she kinda fell back on her training a lot more sensible. Some people actually felt that a certain turning point for her didn't make sense, that it was too quick, but if you read the books and compared it was a thousand times slower on the show. There was an actual progression vs the way the books put it out.

[@allyourmoney]

Gangrel Aussie Florence took the lead, actually. ;)

[@KainErrow]

allyourmoney ... And now I'm *glad* you're "dead," Miller. _So jelly of Thomas Jane._

[@beefcake8821]

This show is criminally underrated and unknown. Syfy needs to step it up because this show deserves so much more.

[@slytherinslocket272]

here in Germany noone knows it. Got 4 people to watch it by now. But that is still far from enough.

[@chaost4544]

I'm re-watching their reactions to this due to the new season coming up in December and it's great seeing it all again from their perspective. It was awesome how Suraj was left almost speechless after this episode ended.

[@tadcooper9733]

Its one of the most well known sci fi shows of all time and has been since it came out. You fucking fanbois are disgustingly delusional.

[@chaost4544]

@@tadcooper9733 huh? No it's not. The tv metrics show people aren't watching the show even with Amazon behind it. Furthermore, the comment from the OP was made two years ago which at that time the show definitely wasn't being watched by anyone other than hardcore scifi fans and it was still on the SciFi Channel which had abysmal marketing for the show. The empirical data doesn't back your assertion that it's one of the most well known scifi shows of all time and has been since it came out. You're the one "disgustingly delusional" here; which is comical hyperbole on your part. It's probably not a good idea for you to post shit on youtube while you're drunk. Settle down edgelord.

[@beefcake8821]

@@tadcooper9733 First of all, this comment was 2 years ago, before it was even on amazon. Second, pretty much every person I ask if they have ever seen it, haven't even heard of it. Try to say that about star wars/star trek/battlestar galactica/firefly/doctor who etc...

[@kamenwaticlients]

I feel like Miller and Julies connections exceeded space and time. Life itself.

[@sirperybLakeney]

The thing you guys seemed to be missing with Miller and Julie was that he was a detective who learned everything about the person he was tracking and needed to empathise with her in order to do his job. His falling in love with her was an extension of that.

[@curryinahurry3730]

Yeah, it's a so called "laura syndrome"

[@causticgastrap2835]

They explain his feelings for her better in the book. That’s part of it but he wasn’t a good person at all but was given her case, was inspired by her willingness to sacrifice herself for belters despite coming from a rich family, got fired as a detective because he was obsessed with her case and decided that finding her would be the one good thing and last thing he did.

[@aliliving7774]

@@causticgastrap2835 more than love, it's about connection. The protomolecule bends time and space. They were forcibly connected, hence her seeing him before she died, him seeing her everywhere, the bird from the past showing up.

[@skyhawkslcb18]

@@aliliving7774 it's crazy how many people don't understand that

[@dapeach06]

**No Spoilers** Yeah, the delays in communication are because radios and laser transmitters and any other form of communication can only travel at the speed of light, so it can take seconds or minutes or even over an hour for a message to come through, even in our solar system. It takes ~14 minutes (plus or minus, depending on where they are in their orbits) for light or radio waves from Mars to reach Earth, and even longer for a message from the Earth to the Asteroid belt or Jupiter, etc (Though Eros is a near-Earth asteroid, so sometimes it can be closer than Mars, and definitely was in this episode). Between the Earth and Moon, it is ~1.3 seconds, hence why it was so awkward for Avasarala and her husband Arjun.

[@TerenceBradshaw]

I'm a major evangelist of this show. If I get any hint someone likes science fiction, my first question is, "Do you watch The Expanse?"

[@sparrowlt]

good luck.. i so far have been completelly unable to make anyone watch this.. only one guy and he will watch anything sci-fi related .. but everyone else refuses.. they also refuses to watch BSG back in the day...and then they go and watch STD .. should i destroy all of them with a rail gun?

[@CitroChannel]

This episode is one of the best television episodes of 2017, in my opinion. Loved the reaction and love that you guys are continuing these despite the fan community for The Expanse being apparently much, much smaller than all of the other shows you react to. The Expanse is legitimately the most underrated and underappreciated show on television right now and Syfy has been knocking it out of the park with the adaptation. This would be hugely popular already if it aired on HBO or something. It deserves a lot more attention from both regular tv watchers and reactors!

[@runamohammad3507]

Citron 💙

[@henrygonzalez4441]

Citron i

[@allyourmoney]

As much as Eros accepted Julie's destination, Julie wasn't in COMPLETE control. It was more like a partnership. Remember when Miller wanted her to stop it & she said "No---you can't stop the work!"? Ultimately the protomolecule has an agenda, an objective & it's only willing to accept the hosts wishes if it serves the end goal. It wanted Earth for the biomass & Julie wanted to go home, but Venus was also suitable because of all the chemical compounds there.

[@97lynds21]

Julie and Miller's love symbolized by Eros colliding into Venus . . .

[@tsogobauggi8721]

That ending is just so very beautiful. I remember the first time when I saw this episode. It was a night and after I had watched this episode I was in the feeling of how amazing the end was. Then I went to the balcony and watched the bright stars shining in the black night sky.

[@zammmerjammer]

The inside of Eros all coated in protomolecule looks very ethereal and dream-like in the show. In the books, it's a Cronenberg-esque visceral nightmare world. I get they probably don't have the capability to do that effectively on the show... but taking away the body horror element sort of makes the protomolecule less terrifying than it is in the books.

[@SengokuTheGouda]

Miller explains that Julie’s controlling Eros and sees it as her ship, and she’s racing home. “She’s so OPA she wants to destroy earth.”

[@skyhawkslcb18]

honestly the only reason i'm still watching this channel is to listen to the dumb shit they say

[@dapeach06]

**Speculation, Not Spoilers** AFAIK It's never fully confirmed in the books or show, just hinted at, especially since the book scene is a bit different, but many fans speculate that the Protomolecule is somewhat detached from linear time, so the ProtoJulie and Miller were always connected in some way, once she became infected at least (since it happened in S1 E1). That's why it would show the bird, something from his memories, even before he took his helmet off and got infected, because it knew he and his memories would become part of it at some point. I've finished book 7 of the series, and all the novellas, and even now, the protomolecule is very mysterious, and I like it that way so fans can speculate.

[@KainErrow]

I actually always suspected that Miller had just been lightly infected by the thing. For reasons that are somewhat backed up by the books on. (I am *not* looking forward to the 'Cibola Burn' portion, but there was some important info there)

[@allyourmoney]

( Not technically a spoiler since it was discussed right after the episode aired but avoid if you want to finish the whole season anyway): Yes, the showrunners confirmed that the moment they kissed, it echoed through time into the past. They didn't go into painstaking detail but it's a good bet that at least some of MIller's visions were part of that phenomena. The Protomolecule has a limited presence across nonlinear time without changing outcomes, since that would derail it's objective. I think it's smart enough to just know what not to do.

[@VII0777]

Miller loved Julie. Eros translates to "love." They crash on Venus, the goddess of love. Hmmm... not sure what this means.

[@grelkie]

🤔

[@kaldurobuin]

I was pretty confused about the Julie/Miller scene too, as you learn more about the Protomolecule, you can apply it here and it suddenly all makes sense. That scene still makes me cry, damn, so beautiful.

[@Coff1nf33der]

Comment before watching. This was probably the one episode that needs a full reaction, with stuff happening nonstop. Miller walking around Julie in this old school space suite reminded me of old pulp science fiction covers, like Perry Rhodan in the 60s and 70s. PS: My favorite episode of tv in 2017.

[@Mayhemm007]

Totally agree. It has a touch of the ridiculous with Miller "taking his pet nuke for a walk." The visuals are both heartbreakingly beautiful and completely alien. The conversation between "Julie" and Miller has an air of bittersweet finality to it. As close to a perfect episode of TV as one can find.

[@mmay2669]

Loved the Perry Rhodan books!!!! Love all the Expanse novels. Wish syfy would do the Old Man's War series.

[@ChipMatthews]

Netflix bought the rights to make a movie of the first book last year.

[@Coff1nf33der]

Let's hope they go through with it. I get PTSD just from remembering how often the rights to "Foundation" have been bought and hot potatoed around for years and years.

[@ChipMatthews]

I know, right? Judging by how much money they've poured into Altered Carbon maybe they'll actually do it justice.

[@meatpopsicle8081]

Daweson's words were prophetic. "Maybe you haven't lost everything yet. When you do you'll find your way home and it will welcome you."

[@Pink.andahalf]

It was technically a finale. That was the end of book 1. The show does around three quarters of a book per season for some reason.

[@davedahl4461]

I really like it: it gives them time to really stay true to the books. Also to take time with the characters. I wish Game of Thrones had done something similar.

[@biocapsule7311]

+Dave Dahl They didn't really quite stay true to the book, some for good reasons, some not so.

[@sparrowlt]

Yeah..and book 2 ended in 1/3 of season 3.. however they finished book 3 in season 3 finale amazingly..and not due to the cancelation stuff.. they said they could fit book 3 into 8/9 episodes maintaining the pace of the other seasons.. so now season 4 will fresh start book 4

[@DominickvdHoff]

i remember watching this episode, i was so amazed by how full of amazing moments it feels

[@blackpaw29]

Back in S2E1 Miller was talking to Naomi about his dreams/visions of Julie and says "She holds my hand and tell me 'You belong to me'" - in this episode she does exactly that. I think the protomolecue linked them in a non-time like manner.

[@LeeCarlson]

Also, if you remember, Julie was still conscious when Miller arrived and he was the ONLY person that she saw that "came for her."

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

Eros crashes into Venus making the impact of an Atomic Bomb. Them "Did miller die??" Look im not a doctor but im going to go ahead and say he died.

[@abbaszaidi8371]

Valcor well sorta No spoilers, but the answer depends on how far you are into the series “Like a monkey flipping switches.....”

[@ConspiracytardHunter420]

"8 more episodes after tthhhiiiis?" hahahaha

[@Danny_Boel]

21 an hopefully a lot more

[@KainErrow]

Kinda side note with NO spoilers, but from the books: Bobbi "Gunny" Draper is described as a Polynesian giant with a bit of Samoan ancestry. At one point, another character says she looks like a beach bunny that got edited to 1 and a half times regular size: his brain kept bouncing between Mate and Run!

[@Mayhemm007]

I remember you guys made fun of Miller so hard whenever he would talk about Julie. Remember when he had the creepy stalker picture of Julie above his bed and told Naomi that "she belongs with him"? Now "Julie" repeated the same thing back to Miller!

[@mickys333]

I mean it's great that it worked out and all but...it was still kinda creepy.

[@kamenwaticlients]

I feel like it was one of those connections that exceeded space and time.

[@jypziifreeborne8010]

It takes about 8 minutes for sunlight to reach Earth, 12 minutes to reach Mars, whatever "radio" they use is going to be traveling at a fraction of that speed. Good reactions. Can't wait for Season 3!

[@Bhaalgorn2302]

your timings are fairly accurate but radio signals travel at the speed of light as well, so they are going just as fast as sunlight. any delays in communications are entirely down to distance. holdens message was marked at a 15 minute delay so they actually arent very far from earth all things considered. i assume "the belt" refers to the kuiper belt, voyager 1 is out somewhere near that right now and signals that far take 20 hours and its taken it 40 years to fly there. its a long way to go to haul ice.

[@damonbrown5424]

Actually, "The Belt" here refers to the asteroid belt between Mars & Jupiter - with Ceres being the largest object. Eros is 433 Eros, an asteroid that travels across Mars orbit and came as "close" to Earth as 26,729,000 km in 2012. AFAIK, the farthest inhabited area they've shown in the series so far (through the end of S2) is Ganymede, a Jovian moon - well short of the Kuiper Belt. I didn't see where they labeled the message "15 minute delay" but I'll certainly take your word for it. For reference, the *average* distance between Earth & Mars is 225,000,000 km. And as you pointed out, radio waves travel at the speed of light as well (~300,000 km/s). So, transmission time between Earth & Mars at their average distance would be about 750 seconds or 12.5 minutes. Since, we don't necessarily know the exact distance of 433 Eros to Earth at that point - especially factoring in the movement from the Protomolecule - we just have to take a number that falls within a reasonable range of potential possibilities. A 15 minute delay would imply a distance of 270M km, which would likely fit the bill, though.

[@Bhaalgorn2302]

Ahh that makes more sense, thanks for the correction. I know in the show they travel under constant acceleration instead of using slingshots the way we do, so i figured they were just a damn site faster than us. The 15 minute message delay was written like a subtitle at the bottom of the screen they were watching.

[@sparrowlt]

well there was a station on Phoebe.-.and i think they said there was an outpost on Pluto.. wich was so far out even with epstein drives it toom several weeks or months to get there and had to send supplies using unmaned drone ships wich acelerate way beyond any human could stand even with acel-drugs

[@jossgoyanko7006]

Figured I might as well mention this, but taping a dead person's finger onto the dead man's switch would not have worked. Modern touchscreen controls, like the ones your phones utilize, work by detecting disturbances caused when your finger makes contact with the screen. These disturbances are the result of the electrical field your body generates interacting with the electrical field of the screen. That's why you can't use a modern touchscreen while wearing thick gloves no matter how hard you press, the material of the glove insulates the screen's electrical field from your finger's. Taping a dead person's finger, aside from being morbid, would also do diddly squat, as tissue that has been dead for long enough, like the tissue of a finger from someone on Eros who's been dead for weeks by now, does not generate the requisite electrical field in order to trigger the screen.

[@LeeCarlson]

Juliet Mao is hallucinating that she's aboard her space-racer, the Razorback, and she's "racing" the Rocinante, which is why she continues to accelerate at a rate that the Roci cannot match (without killing the crew).

[@KainErrow]

27:02 - To be fair, he did bring it a nuke. Helluva gift for your first date.

[@mickys333]

6:22 lol Rana is hilarious. How the fuck do you expect them to evacuate 20 billion people in the span of a couple hours? Even in Star Trek with their impossibly advanced magical tractor beams and transporters that would be nearly impossible.

[@damonbrown5424]

The "Home" episode of X-Files is, without a doubt, the most disturbing thing ever broadcast on network TV.

[@KainErrow]

26:27 Glad other people noticed, it was definitely the moment when Holden realized, "Hey, I'm on TV!"

[@Arsolon618]

Can't wait for you guys to watch the rest of season 2. Things about to get crazy!

[@KainErrow]

Arsolon618 'Cause they weren't already, right!? :D

[@Danny_Boel]

I've seen it maybe like 7 times and I still tear up :-)

[@BarryAi]

Same here 😭.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Does Nahid know that cancer isn’t contagious?

[@ChipMatthews]

This was such an amazing episode of an amazing show. In my opinion the best scifi television show of all time. The wait for season 3 is killing me, but it's really fun reliving season 2 with you all. Keep up the great work!

[@tsogobauggi8721]

00:34 The X-Files is one of few best shows. And that Home episode is one the episodes that people remember. It was rememberable in many ways. 4:28 Rana behind saying 'I love you' :) 5:16 That scene reminded me of The Fifth Element. When in the end of the movie the 'evil planet' is coming towards Earth. There is the president of Earth and military people and they say that it's accelerating towards Earth.

[@benhmn]

You've even got a 5th element style resolution to the planet heading for Earth with the lover's connection.

[@tsogobauggi8721]

Those scenes were much alike. Also, in this one Miller and Julie kiss, and the Earth is saved. In The Fifth Element Korben and Leeloo kiss, and the Eart is saved.

[@VrVic15]

I've seen the whole show, Imo the best sci fy show ever, I'm glad I saw your reactions it gets better and can't wait for season 3

[@AndrewFedge]

THIS was the episode I was waiting for you to see. :D ONWARD TO BOOK 2 story-lines....! ;)

[@GO24Seven]

One of the best shows on TV, can't wait for season 3.

[@jamesverner9132]

this was secretly a love story.

[@prophetofgreed]

One of the best episodes of 2017, and an epic finale to the first book of 'The Expanse' Now we have the events of 'Caliban's War' coming up. Bobbie and Chrisjen were introduced in that book, but there's another point of view you have yet to see yet (probably seen it by now because of early access). Can't wait to see the end of 'Caliban's War' adapted in Season 3.

[@syngyne]

Next time they show a full intro, pay really close attention. Especially to the last planet they show.

[@erichimmelblau877]

I think that last planet is Venus, not Mars.

[@lawrencegough]

It’s a snowy week in London and I’m bingeing the Expanse. Very good show...but this was such a great episode. As Suraj said, emotional. Btw this is on Netflix in the U.K., and I think quite popular here. Best Syfy show for ages (although the space battles still not quite as good as BSG).

[@chaost4544]

This episode is one of the best hours of scifi ever produced.

[@adrienne1958l]

It has taken me all this time to get to the expanse, and I call my self a sci fi fan, smh ,but I am engrossed. The episode was beautiful . Your editing of this episode was worthy . So this is the only reaction I have watched of this series so far. I was I little disappointed to hear you guys talking about how creepy , Thomas Jane 's character was , because of his obsession with Julie , because I never got that. Turns out I was right..

[@WallOfScience]

This episode feels so climactic because it was the ending to the first book :-) It looks like they are doing about 3/4 of a book a season. This year we are going to get to see some freaking amazing stuff.

[@LadyVenomWay]

Nice one guys!

[@godemperorletoatreidesii6971]

Love literally saved humanity

[@ngatiramona]

Such a breath taking dramatic edgeofyourseat episode. Loving your reactions so much! Kitty Cat made the whole vid.😍

[@KainErrow]

20:33 - And that's the end of the first arc (hey, it even ended on an ark!) Goddam but it's been hard to wait for season 3, but it's good to know a lot of other people are suffering right along with me. Going to love your reactions to The Seventh Man.

[@KainErrow]

The love between Arjun and Chrisjen is given pretty short shrift on the show.

[@cornekeetels5293]

You guys talking about gunny made me remember i love her so friggin mucht throughout season 2.. especially later on

[@LeeCarlson]

Messages have to be sent is because communications are limited to the speed-of-light and the solar system is BIG.

[@Ugnutz]

remember the dream miller told naomi about in season 1 about ow julie took his hand and said you belong with me

[@pedroo.7379]

I don't even know if you gonna read this comment, but, i need to tell you guys that a i love you all. You are so funny and charismatic and i really like you all. P.s.: I am Brazilian, so if i wrote something wrong, i am sorry😅😙😙😙

[@runamohammad3507]

Pedro Oliveira I love you too! Thank you for watching us and no need to be sorry, you wrote that perfectly :)

[@KainErrow]

Runa Mohammad Oh sh*t! I am so sorry, I've been totally misspelling your name for nearly a year or more! I honestly thought it was *Rana,* my bad. :(

[@sasukeshenron]

tbf suraj does put "rana" in all the avatar videos. I think rana might be the "american" name or something.

[@KainErrow]

sasukeshenron Yes, she mentioned in the stream for 'Life is Strange (Ch1)' that "Rana" is actually her own preferred spelling at the least. I'll leave my apology, though, as my filter is kinda broken and if It's not one thing, It's another. :) The more excited I am for this or that, the less it seems to work, and I am always very excited for 'The Expanse.'

[@zammmerjammer]

OMG YES! Normies do reactions to The X-Files! It would take forever (you could skip the last 2 seasons) but it would be GREAT!

[@KainErrow]

10:26 - I have sympathy for you, Nahid, so I shall let you in on a secret: Do this GoT style and split your hour long eps in 2!

[@BarryAi]

"Bro, grab your fucking bomb!" 😂

[@ericc.6255]

The only satisfaction I’ve had waiting for season 6 is finding channels that fell in love with this show

[@M3A7]

You guys watch the SpaceX launch the other day?

[@sukhbaatartomor8511]

The best Show, that i ever seen in my Life

[@Guiltythree]

X-Files is a really great show. They've just released a mobile game, btw.

[@biocapsule7311]

It's also one of the very few shows where the "monster of the week" is better than the main arc.

[@luke666808g]

I don't think it's fair to call Miller an obsessed creeper, I interpreted it as a sort of religious devotion, an idea that gave his life meaning, you guys always trying to make it icky somehow.

[@tonycamas9747]

It's a pretty controversial subject, even among much of the fandom. There is, after all, a pretty significant age difference, among other things. But I agree, he's not an obsessed creeper, at least not the way that term is usually applied. What I think a lot of people don't notice is that Miller's love for Julie is actually a pretty "pure" thing; it's not about lust and sex, it's about the fact that she inspires him, which is a pretty big thing to an old cynic like Miller. I mean, I'm sure the fact that she's a pretty young girl is not lost on him, but Miller is more in love with the idea of Julie than he is in love with Julie herself. And he does say this pretty often, to people who will actually listen. He says it to Naomi, he says it to Semi, and he actually says it to Julie herself (or proto-Julie) right there near the end. Miller is jaded and cynical and believes (at least before his first visit to Eros) that pretty much everybody is either corrupt or weak. Julie is neither one, something he comes to realize as he investigates her, and by the time Season 2 rolls around, she's become his salvation, his reason for living (as you say). Don't know if you (or others here) know this, but the kiss at the end was not scripted; it was improvised on the spot by the actors, and I guess the folks who made the show looked at it both ways and decided it worked. And I agree. But I don't think the kiss was meant to be sensual or sexy -- it's a kiss of relief, of longing resolved, and a promise to be together for whatever comes next. And yes, it makes more sense that Miller would feel this way than Julie, but then remember, this is not exactly Julie. It's some amalgam of Julie and the Protomolecule, which probably finds Miller potentially useful and will benefit from "absorbing" him as it absorbed Julie and many others. We don't know at this point whether Julie and Miller survived the crash into Venus, but with everything we've learned about the protomolecule, I think at this point most people would figure it a pretty safe bet that we haven't seen the last of it. I think it worked, and I think it made sense. But I also think Miller was possibly being manipulated a bit at the end there. But, you know, in a really nice way. :)

[@tonycamas9747]

I hear that. But I think you have to admit that there are a lot of actual creepy guys out there in the real world, and so I think it's a reasonable reaction, at least up to this point. I mean, even a lot of the characters in the show were not too sure about Miller's Julie obsession. Hell, if Miller himself had observed this behavior in someone else, he probably would've assumed the worst too. I can't get angry at people watching the show from making assumptions about something that is an uncomfortable subject for a lot of people. I do think, though, that this episode clears up a lot of this stuff and finally shows people how things really are. So I guess if someone STILL feels Miller was a dirty old man creeper after watching this episode, then I'd say they're being stupid. But beforehand... there are a lot of gray areas on this show, which is one of the great things about it. And this was probably one of them. But hey, that's me. You can still be pissed off, you have every right to be...

[@luke666808g]

It's only a reasonable reaction if you take the whole thing out of context, but I have a feeling that as a culture, we're losing the ability to appreciate context.

[@tonycamas9747]

That may be true, unfortunately. But then, we're living in a time when large swaths of the populace can't even agree on something as fundamental and non-negotiable as truth. So to expect people to appreciate something as nuanced as context in these strange times may be asking too much. All I can say is, I hope against hope that this will be a temporary phenomenon.

[@KainErrow]

7:11 - And the Miracle Pilot is saying, "Hey, fuck that noise, I'm out!"

[@KainErrow]

11:06 - If you haven't had the thought within the last ... month and a half? ... the switch doesn't work by holding it down, you'd have to have something spam it which has it's own issues.

[@elizabethlockhart2103]

One of my favorite details from the books that didn't make it into the show is that Eros talks, constantly. It just sends out a constant stream of meaningless talking, fragments of words and phrases, never anything coherent but always speaking with the voices of the dead. That was much more creepy to me than meaningless alien screeching.

[@Jabberwocky415]

Dude that’s literally in the show. They mention several times that there are “voices” coming off of Eros. And it’s mentioned later in the show as well by Proto-Miller.

[@elizabethlockhart2103]

@@Jabberwocky415 They SAY Eros talks, to mean Eros communicates. They decided not to integrate that into the sound design OF Eros. There is a HUGE difference between "Eros makes noise even though everyone is dead" and "Eros just screamed 'don't you fucking touch me'".

[@Jabberwocky415]

@@elizabethlockhart2103 You said in your comment “never anything coherent”, “fragments of words and phrases”. That’s basically exactly how it’s described in the show. Now you’re coming at me cause they didn’t include a coherent sentence? Which you said never happens?

[@elizabethlockhart2103]

@@Jabberwocky415 I'm not tryna fight with you, dude. Chill. This detail that was bigger in the books did not make it into the show. It is described, but not actually shown. I'm sad, because it could have been cool. I'm not "coming at you", lmfao.

[@elizabethlockhart2103]

@@Jabberwocky415 "Don't you fucking touch me" is what Eros screamed when it dodged the Nauvoo. It screamed that in Julie's voice. And as far as I remember, that's the only time Eros said something coherent, i.e. relevant to it's current circumstances and not meaningless word salad.

[@JustOdie]

4:56 I think Mr. Smirnoff from the Soviet embassy left it there.

[@allyourmoney]

Mr. Smirnoff is an American spy. Mr. Stoli is the real deal.

[@M3A7]

JULIE IS JUST TRYING TO GO HOME!!!!!

[@brandonvidito5812]

Hey guys! I'd really like to make a suggestion for a show for you guys to watch! Do I just do that in the comments or do you guys have a social media page? Love watching all the reactions, thanks! :)

[@M3A7]

The season 2 finale is like...... This episode x5..... Like holy fuck balls...

[@dumpsterfire7214]

Communication aka radio travels near light speed (300 000km per sec) but the distances are still fairly great so for instance a message from mars(56million kilometers) to earth takes over 3 minutes in one direction even when they are closest to each other. So a back and forth takes nearly 7 minutes. Imagine those guys at NASA controlling the rover on Mars. Turn left, wait 3. something minutes for your signal to reach it. Wait for it to send visual and whatever else data back for another 3 minutes. Rinse and repeat. ;) Eventually you will have to wait 2x13 = 26minutes for communication when Mars and Earth are getting further apart(220million km). When they are the most furthest apart it takes around 45minutes for a signal to go there and back. (Around 400 million)

[@addickland5656]

"he`s unravelling. I give him two more episodes." uh.. ain`t gonna spoil anything but keep that in mind at the end of the season.....

[@BarryAi]

Your reaction videos are fun! 😂

[@yourmom-ns5cd]

React to netflix dark

[@LeeCarlson]

If Tycho sends a shut-down code to the Nauvoo's engines the ship will cease to accelerate (though 'twill continue on with its present velocity vector).

[@fadeyi]

Do a full separate Miller and Julie Reaction for this episode. Up vote for support.

[@Shibo77]

Would be nice to get a reaction to Zuik23M's tribute video "You belong with me".

[@John-kj3xr]

Great group reaction!!!

[@Drummer4President]

My fav part of this will always be Serj counting his fingers and then still double checking with Rana about the 8 count 😂

[@KainErrow]

Oh shit, here we go (hey kids, can you spot the Patreon supporters in the comments? They're the ones that made it in before ME!) :D

[@runamohammad3507]

Gangrel Aussie lol 😂

[@KainErrow]

Runa Mohammad Is it weird that you're kinda more real to me post reply? I am sorry for getting your name wrong for, like, the last *year.* (also, got your game face on?)

[@fl2rms]

So Eros is mimicking Julies Racing ship the Razorback, its from her.

[@bramo1825]

When this first came out, I actually stopped watching for a while when Miller found Julie in the Blue Falcon. I was like "NOOO my OTP..." But after getting back into it and eventually Miller hearing from Julie, "You belong with me..." just as he had "dreamed"...I ugly (happy) cried so hard. 😭🥰

[@KainErrow]

To be fair to Errinwright and his "nuke the everliving sh*t out of it," can anybody here think of a better idea with the information on hand? (I'll admit that I actually came to kinda like Errinwright in the show)

[@allyourmoney]

The guy who plays him is very good.

[@KainErrow]

allyourmoney Absolutely, Shawn Doyle. They did a great job of fleshing him out character wise, versus the 2D we got in the books. He's definitely not a "good guy" (who really is) but he does have pretty honest intentions. He took Avasarala's motto, "Earth must come first," and added emphasis. Some people have characterized him as a Republican War Hawk but really, he's just a War Hawk (neither left nor right) that believes in maintaining and asserting Earths primacy in the dynamic of Earth and Mars. Hell, he freaked on Avasarala for torturing that one Belter in the first episode (counter point: Eros)

[@Zetverse]

Up till the point I really hoped Miller didn't die, him and that Indian women seemed best written characters.

[@zvimur]

Has Suraj recognize Shawn Doyle yet? Check the filmography.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

9:30 IMO still the coolest scene in the entire show for me. There just something about the sheer power of that many nuclear warheads launching at once. Nothing beats half of the entire earths nuclear warheads flying into space. At first you think damn thats alot but then it zooms out and your like FUUUUCK.

[@John-kj3xr]

The Expanse gives smart people something to watch. Nothing like this since Bladerunner (the original).

[@ocryptix7740]

You guys should watch Code Geass

[@dapeach06]

This episode is making me Tear-bend! img.memecdn.com/tearbending_o_707047.gif

[@joaquinR1stargate]

it's like the Matrix ! SyFy crew , hav to stop now , haven't watch this ep. yet , if yuu guys like X-Flies , check out FRINGE , just awesome , I'm on season 3

[@brahimdiop5506]

Tale as old as time, a 50 year old divorcee man falls in love with a 20 year old girl through photos and her bio

[@mobblemaggotgutter]

Miler fell in love with Julie while searching for her... Idk how did you guys miss that.

[@goat1408]

This....THIS IS TV.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

9:04 i swear man everytime the show just throwing around nukes. They be holding a nuclear bomb/missle and just chuck it down im like WTF.

[@dolnick7]

A great episode for Vodka. How did you know?

[@BarryAi]

Epic episode.

[@lowbudgetcomicsthings7068]

Is "fam" a Chicago thing?

[@gabe_liu9095]

2nd best episode on IMDB

[@113Branty]

So oblivious. Prob cus they werent alone watcing.

[@douglas2938]

Oh man, don't remind me of (The X-Files') "Home". It's got to be one of the first times TV gave me actual chills. Movies, sure, but TV?! Yeah...

[@theborgv]

It doesn't slow down from here. By the way please add Altered Carbon and Dark to you list.