The Expanse 3x11 Reaction

[@erichaws6788]

The fire in Naomi's ship wasn't acting weird because of the slow zone. That's just how fire behaves in space. If puffs out like that when Naomi opens the door because of the vacuum.

[@The_Sci-Fi_Slut]

Yeah nearly every reactor I've seen has thought this. It's funny to see how real physics can be as weird as Sci-Fi stuff sometimes

[@Deeplight32]

Yesss, this is definitely the Ashford/Drummer episode. I loved this one. Ashford was such a pleasant surprise this episode.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

And we now have two more Klass Actford converts.

[@krystofdayne]

And he's a way better character than in the books, gotta say. He's basically just a cowardly asshole in the books.

[@hellfish2309]

Camina wasn’t yet of the mindset to offer the Behemoth’s spin gravity to all the ships’ wounded, but Ashford being in command also has the imperative to spin the Drum because it’s the only way he can give Camina a chance to survive

[@ChipMatthews]

In the book they do a better job of explaining why Anna is on the expedition to the ring. Since it might be a first contact situation they included representatives of the major religions. When the speed limit changed Anna was strapped in her bed so she was in a lot of pain from the bruising. She injected herself with pain killers and was pretty much high as a kite. That helps explain why she did something as impulsive as following Clarissa to the Roci. Because they crammed this whole book into half a season a lot of stuff was left out. You miss out on a lot of Clarissa's and Anna's stories. The book gives a lot of background on Clarissa, her mods that give her super strength and why she has them, and how she ended up impersonating an electrician. If you love the show, the books are very much worth reading. They're even better.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

_"Since it might be a first contact situation they included representatives of the major religions."_ The show could not have made that more clear... without doing it annoyingly so, I mean.

[@idk-ye7ur]

I know i'm late, but... Bruh, everything you explained was showed in the show, nothing that you said was left out.

[@ОбразцовТимофей]

Zero-G effects in this episode were amazing.

[@remliqa]

You girls seem to forget that Bobbie too was kind of insufferable and racist (she was very anti -Earth) when we first saw her. It took the betrayal from Mars and working with Avisarala that changed her for the better.

[@quiett6191]

I like how this show deals with racism, the writing is soo good that we can understand why they feel that way, without condoning. With Bobbie we learned that the root of these feelings is her regret that she'll never see a "green" Mars. She would always be looking at that simulated picture of how an area looked once it was terraformed. This was shown in her argument with her superior officer. Basically that the threat of Earth had forced the Martian government into diverting resources from the terraforming project into developing their Military, thus delaying "the dream of Mars". She basically was of the mind that if they can just defeat Earth once and for all ASAP, she just might live to see atmosphere over Mars.

[@krbkrbkrbkrbkrb]

We already knew that Drummer was a badass after the way she handled being shot. Remember her doing crunches even though she was bleeding from the wound? And she seems to get even tougher as time goes on.

[@acereporter73]

Drummer is a Saiyan. Wound her and she comes back more powerful than ever.

[@danbadd]

Your comment is so true but also a mild spoiler for someone who hasn't watched beyond this episode.

[@jamesholland5761]

Great reaction and analysis ladies! I found myself constantly checking to see if you two had uploaded the next Expanse episode! I love this show so much and now find myself addicted to your journey on this show! The scenes with Ashford and Drummer are some of the best that I love! First time I saw Drummer sacrifice herself I almost had a heart attack! Naomi coming back to the Rocinante was very emotional for me. The conversation with Amos was very powerful. Can't wait for the next one!

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Ships are laid out like towers, from the lowest being the drive cones, and the highest being the control deck. When the slowdown happened, most ships got stuck in the purple flypaper nose first, in the direction they were going. But Roci has been spending her time avoiding being crowded into the bubble wall by the Xeussan,so she was accelerating laterally away from the bubble when the purple goo caught her all along one side. Rather than get bounced off the ceiling upon slowdown like everyone else in the flotilla, Alex & Amos got thrown sideways into walls. A little whiplash was the worst of it for them.

[@kirkdarling4120]

They were also moving more slowly, trying to maneuver away from both the Xuesan and the central sphere.

[@scambammer6102]

yep that's why our crew didn't get smashed

[@AL-fl4jk]

I love that you saw what was coming in the cargo bay but assumed it would be ashford to sacrifice 😁 great reaction

[@androkguz]

The fire in naomi's ship was regular fire in a zero gravity environment. It actually really does work like that in real life. The ISS has had them. Naomi did what any resonable belter would do: just vacuum the chamber and the fire will extinguish itself.

[@Subjectivity13]

Holden's vision started with recent events moving backwards, in reverse order, so I'm pretty sure that means it was showing us further and further into the past. I love how every time they saw Ashford, they were certain he was about to die. Even after he makes it back to the bridge, and he's giving a speech to every ship, they still expect him to suddenly drop dead for some reason. It started getting really funny eventually.

[@karabomasibi2331]

Lola was right about Marvel over saturating the market with their movies, she was ahead of her time

[@kaipoh265]

The mother in Kim's Convenience was the captain of the Donnager, too! And the father showed up as an Alliance fighter pilot in The Mandalorian...

[@AL-fl4jk]

Don’t forget Mr Mehta ends up Spoilers Running earth 😭😂

[@dorjel7504]

Thanks! Now I'm going to watch Kim's Convenience again. That was a good show too.

[@AL-fl4jk]

In the book Anna was high af on painkillers after getting hurt in the slowdown. Halfway thru the spacewalk to the Rocinante she sobers up and spends rest of the way basically thinking “fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck…”

[@endubless]

Ashford couldn’t control the movement of the vehicles from his end, only the arm/claw thing. I guess if you guys knew this you would’ve known Ashford wouldn’t be the one to give his life since he couldn’t 😅

[@elvisibra]

yes, Drummer was the one next to vehicle controls, it had to be her, smash Ashford or herself, cause one of them has to continue.

[@ygkemosabi8280]

@@elvisibra think they assumed he would tell her to crush him

[@elvisibra]

@@ygkemosabi8280 Crash me Captain and go command the ship. YOU GO GIRL!

[@ygkemosabi8280]

@@elvisibra just like season 5 amirite

[@elvisibra]

@@ygkemosabi8280 yeah, they were doing well, but just couldn't help themselves and went of course..

[@kurumais]

anna brought the stun baton. the crew was super crazy busy with the crisis. in the book anna and tilly made friends and good friends. and anna thought she F'd up big time with that guy that committed suicide. and she thought melba was acting odd and that she might need help. so when she finds out she is killing ppl and nobody has time to handle that she takes on the problem.

[@louishermann7676]

She's also high as a kite and incapable of making prudent decisions. Following Melba was an impulse move her drug-addled brain came up with.

[@lethaldose2000]

When Anna's friend Tilly is about to die. Anna gives her comfort in a moment of utter fright. This is Anna's gift she can be the comfort for those in need of it. Tilly tells her "You are good at this". This skill comes to bear again in the next few episodes as Anna has to comfort all the crew before they make a catastrophic decision.

[@HenryM912]

45:25 I mean you're asking the right questions, reasonable questions. But Anna was in a very emotional state after seeing her friend die, doesn't matter if she only had a stick to fight, when you're in that state of mind you don't make logical decisions. It's like "I dont care, I'll take my chances"

[@davebcf1231]

In the book she was also high on painkillers she took from injuries in the slowdown. Not sure why the show didn't really keep that detail in. It makes her actions more understandable. They do show her use some painkillers, but don't make it clear that she's really feeling the effects of them.

[@remliqa]

She was also hopped on chemicals at that time. I believe in the book she was injected with drugs( stimulants/adrenaline ? I can't remember what) when she was treated and that kinda "impaired" her judgments.

[@jasondolph2785]

We do actually see her inject herself with something before wandering out into the charnel house, but it is easy to not grasp the connection because her actions would be off anyway die to the other things.

[@yakamen]

You haven't even begun to see Ashford and Drummer characters develop....they're SO good. They get better. Their relationship gets better. They're like mirror images of the same person, or two objects matching trajectories in the empty space.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Spoilers.

[@yakamen]

@@kirkdarling4120 In what way. Tell me what storyline I revealed other than reiterating their relationship IS awesome. Nonsense.

[@detrix42]

This show deserves a fricken Emmy Award! Several in fact.

[@georgemckay7795]

I'm completely with you on the marines with Bobbi. They keep doubting her because she is willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the crew that SAVED MARS FROM THE PROTOMOLECULE! Every Martian should be bowing to the crew of the Rocinante like all of Gondor to the Hobbits in Return of the King.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Martians are petty.

[@artboymoy]

Great reactions ladies! So many great moments in this episode with everyone. Ashford and Drummer, Naomi and Alex and Amos, and the moments with Anna, Tilly, and Melba. Yeah, Bobbie's troops are a bunch of dicks. The Behemoth has an outer drum that can spin and then you can walk out on the surface when your head is pointed to the center, because of centrifugal force, like that one carnival ride. You think that Ashford is playing some kinda game, but this episode he's just laying it all out there. Here's a former pirate that now wants to build a better future for the Belt.

[@Yesquire0]

Nobody can go back to Earth. All ships are now so far away from the ring that food will run out months before they can gain the ring at the now twice-reduced "speed limit". This was mentioned in the show's dialog, but might have been easy to miss the import. Unless somebody can figure out a way to end the control being exerted by the Station, everybody is going to die. Also, it was established already that no signal can be broadcast through the Ring. I suppose that eventually some scout ship will go though the ring to investigate what happened, and maybe it could dip in, receive a transmission, and then exit back through the ring, but that's serendipity to a large degree, and it won't save anyone's life. It will just reveal the nature of their doom. Ideas, anyone? Or just patiently starve?

[@BhBc8f8]

Since Humans can move fine, what if they provide suits for everyone and abandon ship

[@moproodu]

@@BhBc8f8 spending 7 months in a suit??

[@Yesquire0]

@@BhBc8f8 Have we been informed that self-propelled spacesuits can accelerate to over 28 meters per second and carry enough reaction mass to reach a speed sufficient to carry them all the way to The Ring before the occupant dies of thirst? Seems unlikely to me, but I appreciate the idea. IIRC, the new estimate of the time it would take a ship to reach The Ring was eight months.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@Yesquire0 Depends on how far away Naomi was to the Roci and how far away the Thomas prince is to the the edge of the ring, then perhaps there's a chance.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@Yesquire0 Also did we ever find out why Matteo got splattered but his ship remained intact

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

28:30 “what I really wanted “ One of my favourite pieces by Clinton Shorter

[@cliveklg7739]

Acting Captains are accorded the same honorific 'Captain' when they are in charge and the actual Captain is away or incapacitated.

[@mella4376]

Nice, Expanse is back! I'm glad the hiatus wasn't that long, these are great

[@genghispecan]

Anna was high on pain meds and not in her right mind when she pursued Clarissa - that's explained in the book. Also, she was on the ship along with other religious representatives since the expedition represented a possible first contact scenario with an alien intelligence. At the time they thought this was going to be the last season so they cut a lot of material out to condense the story to fit in the back half of the season.

[@krystofdayne]

It's interesting that you feel this way about Anna because I think she's my favourite new character from season 3. It's true that I might also not be as emotionally attached to her as other characters but I just think that from a literary perspective, she's such an interesting and original character. A female lesbian priest? I mean come on, when has that ever been done before? And maybe it helps to connect more with her if you read the books because I always found her to have such a unique perspective on things that we didn't really have up until then; I often disagreed with her opinions and her worldview but still, I always thought that she was just fascinating and was really a breath of fresh air to me reading the books. Especially because I don't actually like the first book _that_ much because the characters of Miller and Holden (who were the only POVs in the first book) were just too stereotypical and cliché, plus Miller's obsession with Julie comes across as even more creepy in the books. Later introduced characters like Bobbie, Avasarala and Anna are just way more interesting to me (Avasarala was only introduced in the second book).

[@lethaldose2000]

Lola, you discount Anna and her contributions to the mission, but sometimes the best approaches to an idea can come from someone who is not an expert. Many great inventors and scientific minds got breakthrough ideas from their kids or non-scientific friend. So don't count out Anna so quickly as yet.

[@DamonBowles]

I love Amos, I love Chrisjen, but Drummer. Damn, she's good. :)

[@astrodude5222]

Amen to this. Drummer is my favorite, then Amos, and then a big group of fantastic characters including Avasarala, Ashford, Bobbie, …. Any of them would be by far my favorite characters in another show

[@Dene181]

And so it begins... 👌❤I really like your reactions to this show!

[@patrickholt2270]

Some things are more understandable when you know that the books were based on a tabletop science fiction roleplaying game that the author ran. So Anna's behaviour could have been a player decision not to wait and report on what she had seen about Melba, but to strap on a space suit and follow her and try to make the dice rolls to successfully arrive at the Rocinante as quickly as possible. Which would be a kick ass player decision because that character wouldn't have great stats in space walking and stealth and stuff, because she's obviously a talking skill character. Incidentally, my theory about how Carmina Drummer was named is as a reference to O Fortuna from Carl Orff's Carmina Burana, which has some epic Timpani playing.

[@evilvolts]

My 3 favorite characters are Camina Drummer, Amos Burton, and Bobby Draper (Gunny)

[@W0NK042]

Having not read the books, I'm still wondering if “Koh” is short for Kill Obnoxious Holden… 🤔

[@beratnabodhi]

Point of clarification: The rings don't lead to different "universes," they lead to different *solar systems* within our own, Milky Way galaxy.

[@stwartic4296]

Finally. Been waiting for this reaction for a minute🔥I fvcking love Milena😩😍

[@NM-pi6ve]

when Miller says, if you go into a room too fast the room eats you, he is saying if you enter the RING too fast you die. He also warned him to watch the corners, so don't go to the sides of the ring, because you blink out of existence.

[@lethaldose2000]

I think you girls have to let the storyline with Anna play out. For that matter with many secondary and tertiary characters in "The Expanse" series. I think Anna's was put there to represent regular non-scientific folks. She is the person able to project calm and reason in the face of chaos and madness. You'll see in the next episode the scientific approach nearly gets everyone killed ( and I mean everyone in the entire solar system). In the previous episode, the military approach had the blue goo stop a grenade from exploding. Lola has been dismissing Anna's contribution to the Ring exploration. Plus Anna herself had a moment of revelation when she realized she was more needed to offer comfort to those in mental and spiritual support. Trust the Expanse writer they will always lead you through.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Spoilers.

[@lethaldose2000]

@@kirkdarling4120 They've seen the next four episode already. So I'm not spoiling it for them.

[@Dj2xP]

The reason Bobby is not in charge of her squad is because he was reinstated after betraying mars, and that only happened because she helped stopped the war. Otherwise she would have never been allowed back in the martian army.

[@FilthyPeasantGaming]

Idk if it's because it's 3 am and i'm drunk but I cried watching this :'(

[@Ugnutz]

The bird she saw and the fact Julie saw miller coming into the room before she died when he came into the room after she had died.

[@wombat5334]

holden had nothing to do with the slowdown. The protomolecule station started the "slowdown" when the belter ship opened the gate at full speed. The the slowdown became worse when the martian soldier (Kim's convenience guy) dropped the grenade and sent shrapnel everywhere and damaged the room... So the station is working out that fast moving human things create damage, so it made EVERYTHING slower. And now thinks everything is a potential threat... Loving your reactions :)

[@pvilches06]

Wonderful reactions my lovely Lola and Milena!! 🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@kapsi]

I agree it's pretty forced how there's this world changing alien thing, and Clarissa just keeps going after Holden, like the Terminator. Shouldn't she want to kill Avasarala more?

[@juanshobarreras4027]

2:27 LOVE IT!!

[@thomashiggins9320]

Okay, a few things I've noticed about the vocabulary you two use. These aren't criticisms, at all -- your English is far, far better than my Serbian (which I don't speak, at all...) and that's a fact. 😄 So, a sun with its collection of planets and moons and asteroid belts and what-not is a solar system or stellar system. When we talk about "the Solar System," with the words capitalized, that refers to our own Sun (Sol) with its collection of planets. A bunch of solar systems (usually numbered in the billions) all orbiting a central object with great gravity is a "galaxy." Our galaxy is the Milky Way Galaxy, and its billions of stellar systems (including our Solar System) orbits a humongous black hole (singularity) in the center. Our galaxy is called a "barred spiral" galaxy, because it has four "arms" or "bars", composed of billions of stars, each, that extend from the central bulge of stars around the big black hole in the middle. The arms curl out and give the galaxy a pinwheel shape. Our solar system, with the Sun, lies on the inner edge of one of the smaller arms, the Orion Spur, of the Milky Way galaxy. The Milky Way Galaxy, is one of billions of galaxies that comprise our universe. So, while it's certainly possible each of the portals Jim saw in his vision represents a different *universe* -- after all, this pocket dimension with the weird station at the middle is certainly not normal -- its more likely they were just windows into different *solar systems* , because we only saw one star in each. Amusingly, in the books you learn that Pastor Anna spent a couple of years on Ceres as a missionary, and that's where she learned to use a space suit. You also learn that the sudden stop banged Anna around enough that she needed some pain-killers to keep functioning, so she was pretty high when she decided to chase down Clarissa. There's a funny bit, in the book, where her mind starts to clear as she's crossing to the Rocinante, and Anna realizes she'd done something *really stupid* , jumping out of the UN battleship to chase a killer. By then, though, Anna was most of the way to the Roci, so she just kept going. 😎

[@louishermann7676]

Regarding the ring gates, all of the ring gate destinations are within the Milky Way, and of that they encompass only a tiny minority of that space. All the star systems they lead to exist within something like a 10,000ly bubble within the galaxy. This is explained in book 8, I believe, when Elvi is commander of the Falcon and is surveying the weirder ring systems. They've been using star parallax to try to match stars in each system's night sky with the ones they know from Earth. The protomolecule engineers, despite all their technology, never overcame the speed of light, and so, never actually spread that far across the galaxy.

[@thomashiggins9320]

@@louishermann7676 Dude! Spoilers! I haven't read the series that far, yet, and the ladies may be a few episodes ahead, but we're not sure how far. Don't mess this up, for them, or for anybody else who may be watching along with them!

[@louishermann7676]

@@thomashiggins9320 Apologies, but do be advised that these comments are chock full of spoilers. My comment was focused on the structure of the ring network, which isn't really a spoiler since it doesn't affect the plot at all. However, if me mentioning Elvi becoming a commander of something called a falcon, harms your enjoyment of books 7-9 I deeply and sincerely apologize for it.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Although many here will report that the book says she was high as a kite on painkillers, I prefer to think that Anna has the courage of her convictions, to follow after Clarissa to see justice done.

[@AL-fl4jk]

I can be high and full of conviction at the same time

[@ygkemosabi8280]

@@AL-fl4jk also the show never shows her high af so they are cleary different versions of the same character

[@K.C.09]

@@ygkemosabi8280 they show her take an injection when she first goes into the hallway. It makes sense it would be a type of pain medication since she is likely experiencing pain from the sudden stop against the bed restraints she was in. It’s subtle…the writers don’t need to make it explicit

[@ygkemosabi8280]

@@K.C.09 ooo, fo sho

[@misterevil1967]

I'm not sure if when you say 'universe' you mean solar system?

[@ajdembroski7529]

The Tilly/Carissa storyline was one of the few storylines they did NOT adapt well from the books. It was much better.

[@AustinStarDust]

I'm sure others have mentioned this and I'm sorry to be picky -- when you are referring to different "universes", I think you mean different solar systems. Not a big deal, but for astronomy geeks like me, we can be ... geeky. ;-) And other reviewers would refer to solar systems as different universes, too. All of the planets and the Belt that circles are our sun is in one solar system. Our solar system is within the Milky Way Galaxy which contains an estimated 100 thousand million stars. And there are an estimated 100 billion other galaxies in the universe. As far as scientists know, there is only one universe. Everything that astronomers can see with telescopes and other equipment is in one universe. There are theories of there being different universes. But they are just theories. That said, I love your reviews!

[@pablom-f8762]

About the Marvel CU: yes it is overrated and the fact that Thanos has become the standard to measure villains goes to show the general decline in writing.

[@remliqa]

To be fair most MCU villains are pretty weak (in term of bein good characters, not power level) and nothing more than a plot devices.

[@tylerjackson1806]

The wait for The Boys continues.

[@mella4376]

The second ep is up on patreon and on its way to KZbin, shouldn't be long now. Expanse also just skipped a couple uploads so clearly they had a slowdown behind the scenes, the only show that hasn't been impacted is Fullmetal (I assume quicker to edit + biggest viewership base? I don't really know though). But yeah the Boys is on its way

[@冨里ブライアン]

Lord of the rings vs marvel… you too are so entertaining…

[@Metro498]

Anna Volovodov help Christjen Avasarala stop Errinwright plans. Now Acting Secretary General Christjen Avasarala, ask Anna Volovodov to join the UN fleet going to the Ring. To be Earth’s Ambassador and Avasarala’s eyes and ears on the mission.

[@Metro498]

Space travelers in the 24th century more than likely to get basic training with use of vacuum space suits and emergency rescue PPE and equipment, before they travel to space.

[@MattMajcan]

there you guys go again acting like ashford is already dead when hes literally still singing

[@ygkemosabi8280]

i learned through reactions that when you have to talk through an episode "for content" you get less immersion and more predicting and trope searching

[@privateer9181]

Comon gaurdians of the galaxy is the best marvel movie everyone love them

[@jazoon7249]

Replace Universe with solar system.

[@felipegutierrez3689]

you should see the ovas of attack on titan about levi's story please see them

[@josefill4]

Great like always girls 🥰

[@djVOME]

I love channel.

[@RagnarokLoW]

what language do you speak? I dont recognize it.

[@peterstedman6140]

I think they are Serbian but maybe Czech

[@autumncolors7015]

Serbian.

[@Citizen_J]

Marvel movies are oversaturated! Enough already! Toby McGuire is my Spider-Man, too!

[@thav3spa]

how many times can you be wrong about Ashford :D

[@rostikskobkariov5136]

Please please watch Lord of The Rings Please!!

[@juanshobarreras4027]

Finally!

[@guitareeeelifeee5356]

Hey ! when will you react to the boys next episode ?

[@Luzarioth]

Not Universes... Solar Systems...

[@Zood94]

I forgot peaches do something like that lol. Don't worry it's not a spoiler, you don't know what i'm talking about.

[@marcB420]

🥰🥰

[@yossarian7617]

If wounds don't drain under zero-G then just lower the hull pressure. There, I just saved everybody.

[@ygkemosabi8280]

how they still wouldnt drain lol

[@blackpaw29]

Would make no difference to wounds draining at all, especially internal ones. And you've just reduced everyone's oxygen intake.

[@yossarian7617]

@@blackpaw29 Have you ever used a straw to drink liquid? Have you ever been on the top of a mountain or in a plane? Are you even aware that the technology to drain wounds at zero-G was invented a century ago? The "sci" in this sci-fi show doesn't even reach the level of a highschooler. It's Star Wars level "sci" as in non-existent.