The Expanse Aftershow Season 5 Episode 8: Wes Chatham, Ty Franck & Daniel Abraham

Both halves of James S.A. Corey are in the house (remotely) to dive into episode 508 in this week's The Expanse Aftershow. Daniel Abraham reveals to Wes Chatham how he and Ty Franck met, the writing process behind The Expanse novels, and his favorite shows. Tune in weekly after each episode of The Expanse as Ty & That Guy dive into the development, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and easter eggs of Season 5. #TheExpanse #PrimeVideo
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About The Expanse:
The disappearance of rich-girl-turned-political-activist Julie Mao links the lives of Ceres detective Joe Miller (Thomas Jane), accidental ship captain James Holden (Steven Strait) and U.N. politician Chrisjen Avasarala (Shohreh Aghdashloo). Amidst political tension between Earth, Mars and the Belt, they unravel the single greatest conspiracy of all time.
About The Expanse Seasons 2:
In this noir thriller set two hundred years in the future, the case of a missing young woman leads a washed-up detective across the solar system to uncover the greatest conspiracy in human history.
About The Expanse Seasons 3:
As the Rocinante crew digs deeper into the search for Prax's missing daughter, the war between Earth and Mars turns deadly in ways the solar system has never seen. But a new threat in the outer reaches of the Belt could prove much more dangerous, threatening to test the very future of humanity.
About The Expanse Seasons 4:
Season 4 of The Expanse, its first as a global Amazon Original, begins a new chapter for the series with the crew of the Rocinante on a mission from the U.N. to explore new worlds beyond the Ring Gate. Humanity has been given access to thousands of Earth-like planets which has created a land rush and furthered tensions between the opposing nations of Earth, Mars and the Belt. Ilus is the first of these planets, one rich with natural resources but also marked by the ruins of a long dead alien civilization. While Earthers, Martians and Belters maneuver to colonize Ilus and its natural resources, these early explorers don’t understand this new world and are unaware of the larger dangers that await them.
About The Expanse Seasons 5:
In different parts of the Solar System, the crew of the Rocinante and their allies confront the sins of their past, while Marco Inaros unleashes an attack that will alter the future of Earth, Mars, the Belt, and the worlds beyond the Ring.
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[@Frenki94]

Naomi's message bleeding into the credits was just superb.

[@ranialian8537]

Agreed. Those end-credits were engrossing!

[@ZeZwede]

@@ranialian8537 i'm freaking out over here having to wait a week now. godamn this season has been deadly with the suspense!

[@thephilguy1]

The Naomi arc this season is wonderful. Her performances have been top-notch, and seeing the ways she's being twisted around and now used as bait is all the more haunting for it.

[@ranialian8537]

@@ZeZwede I'm right there with you!

[@mynameispathetic]

I personally had chills as her manipulated message continued to play.

[@streaky81]

It's not boring, I could sit listening to this for hours. Truth be told I kinda wish they'd go back and cover off the earlier seasons with more of this..

[@macroscalequantumsys]

Oh yeah, totally, a flashback to previous seasons would be great. I hope they do a ride through entire series at some point.

[@davidlericain]

Agreed. Do it, guys!

[@carolinecampbell1250]

Agreed!

[@weschatham]

They are! Subscribe to TY and that guy pod cast.

[@ironmonkey1512]

it's more interesting than the episode was

[@wavion2]

So glad you explained the marks. It makes perfect sense now, but I was a bit confused in the moment. But I'm also glad you presented it the way you did in the show. I appreciate that you appreciate the intelligence of your audience and don't dumb things down.

[@ThaneDrebin]

This is definitely not "boring as s**t" for the fans, Wes. Great stuff, gentlemen!

[@RutvikPhatak]

I agree! It was very interesting to know the authors and the main writers!

[@philarscott]

Agreed. I am slightly disappointed that they cut stuff out. I want more!

[@lynettra7818]

here here!!

[@matthiasgalus4287]

I think that was even one of the best episodes ... Well all are great

[@anydaynow01]

This was such an amazing interview with James S. A. Corey, I would love more of this!

[@WizKid2388]

Without a doubt Dominique Tipper deservers an Emmy for her performance this season!!

[@1chrisford]

Right behind Sonequa Martin Green for the "Michael Burnham Show" where 90% of that shows time centers on Michael. If time given to one character at the expense of all else means "Emmy!", then you badly damage the pace and "rest of the story", and Green would win over Tipper.

[@shamsham1229]

@@1chrisford ......We’re talking about The Expanse, why the hell are you talking about Discovery? You’re allowed to hate but don’t bring negativity like this into places where it doesn’t belong.

[@1chrisford]

@@shamsham1229 What you call "negativity" more rational people call "criticism". And the point was writers always run the risk of making a protagonist so perfect in every way that they are no longer credible. The "Mary Sue" syndrome. Worse, once the writers , and the STD writers are the worst, fall so in love with a character they created that they talk producers into giving more and more airtime to their perfect creation, sucking the oxygen out of all other show elements and storylines. So far, the Expanse has put more time into "The Mother and Child Reunion Drama and all Mom Naomis Personal Tribulations" Space Soap storyline - than the Belter War. The show is far better than STD and I believe they will avoid the STD trap, and have the show finally address the War at some length - but right now, they have given Naomi the Michael Burnham treatment the last two episodes....maybe Woke Politics plays a role, as writers at STD admit they do in character creation and development. But two episodes left, and the payoff cannot be "Forget the Belter War" Filip has learned to Love Her! Love Her! He is sorry he slapped his mom, the most awesome human in the universe!"

[@robertperrotto870]

@@1chrisford Honestly, IMO, Drummer deserves an Emmy, not so much Dominique, not taking away from her performance this season, it is good, but Drummer and Peaches story arc is what is driving this season. Naomi is going to survive, plot armor ensures this, which means Alex and Bobbi, Holden and the Roci do as well. Drummer and Peaches, on the other hand, hold no such armor, as neither is crucial to the story after this season.

[@acerock013]

i really loved how the show doesn't use exposition to explain what is going through Naomi's head as she is doing the mental mathematics and engineering in her head to figure out the air pressure, and what she is trying to do and how it all comes together in the end credits. It is an excellent mirror of how it plays out in the book and translates really well what could have just been her talking to no one simply for the sake of the viewer.

[@meoff7602]

Talking just for the viewer would of ruined it for me. Not knowing made it that much more desperate in my mind.

[@cmdrTremyss]

@@meoff7602 Yeah I was trying to figuring out what she did, I'm not good at electronics, so I struggled, but it all came together in the end, and the titles just blew my mind.

[@lilliebobson3146]

Thank you!! People that whine dont get that a show is a visual medium. So her thinking has to be shown by her actions. Visual cues to show her ingenuity. But those people are clearly easily distracted or bored due to certain issues. Glad to see an intelligent comment on an expanse video.

[@SodiumWage]

Holy @$#% THIS is the interview with the authors I've been hoping to see for years now! This was so great to see how The Expanse came into being from the very beginning before even the first book was published. Amazing interview!!!! I love seeing Ty and Dan interact to see how their personalities gel and gives us some insight into the energy they put in to writing the books.

[@nokta7373]

You guys are never boring, could listen to you nerding on stuff for hours

[@Pengalt]

Seconded, they barely talked about the episode and it was still fantastic. I'd love for Wes to take question submissions from fans and work some of them into the show. And keep doing this long after the season ends, we LOVE it!

[@tarkajedi3331]

The Expanse is the best hard scfi show in the world and at every step has had to fight forwards to earn the viewers trust ! The Expanse is the Trek for this century with so many stories still to be told !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want it to end !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@alanpennie8013]

Two degrees of separation from Trek! It owes a lot to BSG and that was an attempt to remake Voyager an give it some bite.

[@robertperrotto870]

The Orville was more in line with Trek and it's themes, then any of today's trek series. This is head and shoulders different from trek, and from BSG.

[@refinnej5302]

I am a grown a woman who has never felt anything about a TV duo, but Amos and Clarissa are amazing together. I am only on book 3 of the book series, so not sure where the show is going, but I hope that duo continues.

[@Provigilman]

When they first showed Clarissa in the show, all I could think was "I can't wait to see how it goes when they get to Peaches." They make a great pair in the books, and Nadine and Wes do an equally great job on the show.

[@shrutefarms4741]

It just gets better😊

[@coreynelson7624]

Did not figure out Naomi’s chicken scratches on the wall. Learned something.

[@meoff7602]

Cool I'll watch just to find that out.

[@wabba67]

Same here. I thought she was just keeping track of her progress in case she passed out or did not remember which wires she had already tested.

[@ericssmith2014]

@@wabba67 I too assumed that she was tracking her progress with whatever it was that she was doing. Not sure I buy that the airlock doors work, but the pumps don't, but I guess a good airlock pump _is_ the sort of thing you strip from a junked ship...

[@CharalamposKoundourakis]

Same here. I like it though, they are leaving things for us to figure it out.

[@ericssmith2014]

@@CharalamposKoundourakis For sure, it's interesting to see that much screen time taken up by activity that's largely unexplained.

[@tracymetherell8744]

Another great episode of Ty and That Guy! Naomi’s struggle in this week’s episode was so amazing and smart. I love that they didn’t have her tell us what she was thinking. They never dumb it down and fans appreciate that. We know she is always the smartest person in the room and we don’t need to know all the science she is working with, we only need to know that SHE knows.

[@1chrisford]

On Star Trek Discovery, the writers ensured every scene made viewers know Michael Burnham was the smartest person in any room. Even if she wasn't in the room, so her insignificant side kicks could whine things could be resolved, if only Michael Burnham appeared. Two episodes left. We will know soon if the major focus on Naomi, with other clashes and story arcs save maybe Amos being diminished for "More Naomi!!" was a good call or not.

[@garlandremingtoniii4679]

Tracy Metherell “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!!

[@ericssmith2014]

I also liked that her improvised radio microphone probably didn't work. All of that desperate effort for nothing.

[@meniapapa9275]

Who got that "..in control" message? I think my mind blew at the end. And we are totally not bored

[@KeithRowley]

Yes, my head exploded when I finally understood what she had been working at for so long and so hard. I screamed, “ha! Naomi is such a badass!”

[@gregoreuo1]

These aftershows are really good, I always look forward to them. I can't say that about any other show.

[@robertperrotto870]

still waiting for episode 9 aftershow

[@HoJSimpson]

Even tho Wes and Amos are totally different, they both seem like people you'd like to have a beer with.

[@Batmack]

I think we are lucky he brought him to where it is now. It would have been easy to have another actor play him as a thug, then fall short when the nuances of his personality came through

[@HoJSimpson]

@@Batmack Absolutely... he is That Guy ;-)

[@PatrickLeeOnline]

ha, i think Wes' warmth bleeds into Amos' psycho. I love Amos' character and would def want him in my corner, but I don't think I'd want to sit and have a beer with him because one wrong word and he'd kill me lol

[@benjaminbills9533]

That would a scary beer.

[@stevenaisbitt9520]

I love Wes Chatham's passion and enthusiasm for his work and for Ty and Dan. Great episode gentlemen.

[@charlesmcgehee3227]

Naomi is a fierce survivor. I have made this comment before. But regarding this conversation. Wow. Wes is asking all of the right questions. Great to meet the guys that got The Expanse off of the ground. I want this game. I need to research that. Very good video. And well done guys. Thank you.

[@kristiee6241]

Who else was like wtf is naomi doing most of the episode then at the end u r like OHHH YOU ARE IN CONTROL I GET IT!

[@gregoreuo1]

That's what I like. In many shows you are waiting for the characters to catch up to a solution the audience has already figured out. This was the opposite.

[@lorcannagle]

It's one of those things that's a lot easier to do in the books, where they were able to explain what Naomi's doing by going through the systems she's trying to access and what they do and how she wants to use them. I think they did a fantastic job of getting the gist of what was happening across visually without exposition or narration and it becomes clear by the end of the episode.

[@threestepssideways1202]

@@lorcannagle Yes I agree. Sometimes it is really hard to translate a rich tapestry of words into something visual, however they did it as well as I think they could have, even given the differences between the show and books.

[@KeithRowley]

Exactly! That was me!

[@StevenPerry]

Ty and Wes you guys are doing something great here! There is something about a shared experience that is missing in this day and age due to streaming platforms. Granted it fits out lives better but you do miss out on that "water cooler chat" the next day. Glad to have this aftershow to come and watch each week. Thanks for doing it!

[@Zeracho]

Someone mentioned in an earlier comment this is probably one reason review/react content is so popular. I've been trying to get my family to watch this show, but not much luck so far.

[@tonyblackburn6117]

Really hope you get Nadine Nicole on the aftershow. Would be great to hear her thoughts too.

[@lewhensilvar3521]

There are two episodes left so I hope he gets Nadine and Frankie

[@VoiceofGeekdom]

Good shout 👏🏻

[@alanpennie8013]

@@lewhensilvar3521 Perhaps Wes thinks that might be a tad self indulgent.

[@igmegalingan]

Was Cara Gee still pregnant during that yell? Looks labor inducing. Wow, man she gave everything there. Emotions that came from the gut. I feel that scene.

[@MatheusMaggi]

She filmed the whole season pregnant... until the 7th month, I think

[@Malisman77]

She had quite a tummy :D Thats why she always wear something like a straps, often some gear, bags, etc. They are masking her fat belly :)

[@edwoodsr]

Yeah, kinda hope she didn't know the Mary Clayton Gimme Shelter story

[@harmonicminor5869]

That was far away from "boring". I didn't even realised the video was going to end. I was very curious about your writing process.

[@garlandremingtoniii4679]

Harmonic Minor “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!!

[@harmonicminor5869]

@@garlandremingtoniii4679 - it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out - One hundred and thirteen times a second, it reaches out -

[@stipe3124]

Naomi has nuclear strenght willpower, many people would give up in her situation

[@williammccafferty8558]

I luvu wes

[@williammccafferty8558]

I luvu wes

[@williammccafferty8558]

Love you I love you

[@williammccafferty8558]

I luvu wes

[@meoff7602]

Clear your lucky enough to have been in that situation with a loved one. I personally believe people can move mountains for love.

[@Marvee78]

The acting in this episode was so beautiful. Cara Gee, Olunike Adeliyi as Karal and specially Dominique Tipper were the standouts. 👏👏👏

[@MaxRovensky]

This is Naomi Nagata of the Rocinante. If you get this message, please retransmit. Tell James Holden I am in distress. Comm is not responding. I have no nav control. Please retransmit. This is going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the week, thanks.

[@kjellvb1979]

Not bored at all, the more of "The Expanse" content I can get the better!

[@matthiasgalus4287]

The thing with Naomi and the airlock. Is so amazing when I watched the episode yesterday I guess most people don't get it. I read the books and I almost forgot about it. That shows the love of detail they have. That's so amazing. Usually stuff like that such technical details are never taken into account in most sci-fi books and even less in TV or movies. That makes the expanse so f*ing special

[@alicecottrell3148]

Years ago, an independent bookstore owner in Half Moon Bay who knew what I liked handed me Leviathan Wakes, in hardback because it was pretty new, saying, "Here, buy this! You'll like it!" He was so right. Love all the books (novellas included), love them on Audible also, and love the show. Every book, every season, just gets better and better. I'm really enjoying these aftershows too. Thanks for all the joy.

[@patriciatzai]

Ty uses a Tequila analogy but ends it by referring to the "good stuff" as Scotch 😂

[@macroscalequantumsys]

He probably doesn't like Tequila...

[@jae1der]

Scotch is an acquired taste, like The Expanse. Tequila is like average Sci-fi, The Expanse is not your average Sci-fi.

[@rickshaw665]

@@jae1der The Expanse is Scotch

[@garlandremingtoniii4679]

Sarah W “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!!

[@robertperrotto870]

Scotch, bleh - rye - bleh - Bourbon - now that is good stuff.

[@robertpratt7909]

You guys are awesome. Thanks for being so active in the community and creating awesome content! Cheers!

[@jorgeeporgee]

Naomi is one hell of a belter

[@garlandremingtoniii4679]

jorgeeporgee “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!! “We gotta talk about that ride! Next clue to the case!!

[@savethefunk]

Ty's explanation using Tequila was ON POINT!

[@kenyablonsky]

Why, why, why, are these episodes only 10 minutes long? I know they're longer, but somehow, I get so caught up and it only seems like 10 minutes.

[@futbolusa]

lol

[@DMX-du9mn]

If they release whole season at once, it would be more inclusive to watch. Now, it is torture and why, just to discuss every single episode :) they screwed watching experience for me :(

[@ranialian8537]

@@DMX-du9mn You could always wait 10 weeks and then binge it ;) But I know it's nearly impossible to resist once an episode gets out! I'm sorry weekly releases ruin it for you. It's the other way around for me. S4 went by in a flash because I binged the entire thing in one sitting. I'd rather have Prime space it out for me so that the season lasts longer! Though the wait between episodes is indeed ruthless.

[@DMX-du9mn]

@@ranialian8537 It is like cutting interstellar or green book or once upon a time in Hollywood on 10 parts and release it once a week. Can you imagine that? 😎

[@ranialian8537]

@@DMX-du9mn Insert *that's the evilest thing I can imagine* meme here 😂

[@nathanfrischkorn2888]

Can we give Dominique Tipper all of the awards for her performances in 507 and 508? Just absolutely brilliant, tearjerking, and gutwrenching. Absolutely incredible

[@grafffuller3265]

I love watching and listening to Ty, Wes and Daniel. Thank you for this series, through the books and now the TV show. It is such an amazing story that seems so prescient. Looking forward to the rest of Season 5 and book 9, Leviathan Falls.

[@KeithRowley]

So, book 9 is titled Leviathan Falls? How perfect!

[@laythbarzangi8477]

James S.A. Corey in the house, ladies and gentlemen! I was hoping they would bring Daniel in at some point.

[@deadlyecho]

This is Naomi Negata of the Rocinante tell James Holden I am in Control

[@huexley]

One thing I like about this series about women is that they are not put forward just to be women but rather because in exceptional situations they are too. The cast for that is just out of this world (Shohreh Aghdashloo is just a simply outstanding actress).

[@golfr-kg9ss]

Ty is right the show is an advertisement for the books. I got into the Expanse books because of the show. The same thing for Hunger Games, and The Divergent series.

[@marrenby]

Not Twilight? 😏😉

[@golfr-kg9ss]

@@marrenby bleep NO!!!!

[@marrenby]

@@golfr-kg9ss 😂😂😂🤪

[@Stormy77]

Expanse is quality. Hunger Games is a cheap rip off .. the original and best is Battle Royale. Divergent kind of fell off the rails by the 3rd book and movie. Let's not even start with the Maze Runner or the Giver. You are wise to avoid Twilight, the writing quality on that was similar to a hack Mills and Boon romance book. All these just made me realize how good the writing is in The Expanse and Harry Potter.

[@robertperrotto870]

@@Stormy77 Twilight was aimed at a different audience, much like the Harry Potter books, they were targeted for adolescents, The Expanse is targeted to a mature audience, the themes are more complex, convoluted, and does not break down things to simplistic good and evil. It explores cause and effect to a greater degree, and Human values, norms, and motivations. actually, twilight, harry potter, maze runner, hunger games, divergent all were adolescent reading, and very simplistic in the themes. Thomas Covenant they are not.

[@zaynevanday142]

What makes The Expanse so good is the Writers Actors Directors Everyone involved in the Production and the most important this is that all of them gel together to create what they call the perfect storm !

[@justg2310]

having the actors on... and talking about their different scenes is also highly enjoyable... getting to watch/listen to “that guy” talking with the authors... was a pleasure 🥰

[@zombiegaby]

The fate of naomi is killing me. I need more episodes! Is she gonna die in there? She might. God know's she'll sacrifice herself before letting Alex or Holden get blown up during a rescue attempt.

[@pranavkumar1349]

I urge you to read all the books and novella. You will not regret it.

[@zombiegaby]

@@pranavkumar1349 I definitly will one day, but my tbr is very long lmao

[@shamsham1229]

@@zombiegaby that’s a mood. Endless TBRs.

[@katzmeow78]

@@zombiegaby The audiobooks are excellent also, if you have time you can sit and listen but not read. They're probably some of the best audiobooks I've ever listened to, and feel completely spoiled by how well done they are.

[@meoff7602]

@@pranavkumar1349 Nah, I'm committed to show. The books will just ruin the fun. No offense, but I'm 100% confident the books are better. I want to enjoy the show first.

[@phishback]

Much love to everyone associated with The Expanse! Superb! Thank you!

[@zaynevanday142]

I don't want The Expanse to end EVER lol

[@deanlawson6880]

Okay - Definitely not as boring as sh*t.. I really enjoyed seeing the two parts of James S.A. Corey at the same time "together", in this show talking about their experiences and all things Expanse!! Great Show Wes!! Nicely Done!!

[@gillianrosheuvel6750]

i love that Wes is like "I actually liked The Love Boat" LISSSSEN

[@peddn]

I could listen to them for 3 hours in a row.

[@MrTiptopten]

Can we get some kind of fruit basket and maybe a bubble bath for Naomi? She's been through a lot and I think she needs a hug.

[@mistarzy]

@Ty and Daniel - please make a game too!

[@andykoegelenberg6376]

That "shared experience" is why i love watching youtube reactors so much and i always engage with them.

[@ducktape160]

I have read the books and watched every episode, the Fan theories are sooo good, every if they wrong a encourage the theories. such good fun, Love reactors

[@leebrewtea9339]

Surely Dom Tipper should get her own tv series with acting like that.

[@PluckySmurf]

I adore the show but oh how I love the books too. What a treat this was! Thank you for letting us meet the creators!

[@igorl46]

Anything BUT boring for the fans! Really enjoy getting these glimpses into the authors' minds to understand their process and what's driving them. Thanks for doing this!

[@listenerjoyce1651]

This was definitely NOT boring as “ish.”☺️👍🏾

[@ajr1775]

This season is so far my favorite.

[@henrywalton5967]

3 was amazing though, just re watched it

[@clintoncollier]

The aftershow is anything but boring for those of us who enjoy the commercials. I really appreciate these insightful discussions and ideas and just want to say thank you. I really appreciate your efforts and the quality of your art.

[@zaxx]

I'm ashamed to admit that I was fully impatient with this episode....until I sat stunned through the credits. Brilliant work all around.

[@ScoutPL]

Good point about the audience. A colleague, who was a psychologist, turned me onto The Expanse.

[@annette4392]

Loving it, it's not boring at all....look forward to this as much as the episode itself.

[@92blossom]

Look I love listening to the actors, but this episode with Ty AND Daniel was the best. Love to see the chemistry between the two people who made The Expanse happen, as well as their influences and processes. And thank you to Wes for being our Everyman - asking all the questions that we fans would ask if we had the chance. Also for being so knowledgeable ....

[@igormarina4240]

Best sci fi show of our time, thank you so much guys for excellent entertainment - and for these great post-show extras.

[@Firexcold]

Daniel rocks, we need to see more Daniel!

[@ukrmalka]

So true about word-of-mouth. I found the Expanse books thanks to a friend's recommendation. Love the books, can't wait for book 9. Also, thankfully, the show is superb.

[@wordseater]

Not boring, I could listen to this for hours. :-)

[@JINORU_]

The show got me to read the books! Good advertising like Dan said!

[@george-vlachos]

Oh, man, what an aftershow !!!! following of course a superb episode !!!! So many cool points in here: the way Amos leads and contributes deeply into the conversation, the tequila-scotch mention, and more !!!! No way boring at all !!!! I kinda got the feeling like when you read a good book and you don't want it to end !!!!

[@carlpeters8690]

Every episode of this has been different and every one has been informative and fun. Every one has been worth watching for fans of the series. Thank you.

[@graemesandstrom5654]

I really like you guys chatting so candidly and honestly about the shadow and other stuff. Excellent!

[@OB_JUAN]

OMG these episodes are NUTS!. keep up the good work!!!

[@YadaBoyish]

I'm a huge fan of the TV series and was surprised to find this aftershow only last week. Now I will joyously dive into past aftershows. But THIS episode is absolutely wonderful, not really for how it relates to this week's 5x08 show (which I have to watch again sober to fully understand), but how it ties together how these creators got here! Thank y'all!!

[@thehangingbandits]

Loving this show man. This was probably favourite yet. Great having the creators on!

[@scottnorth9943]

This is ABSOLUTELY NOT BORING wes we could listen to you guys talk and discuss all day...this is our dessert after the main meal! You guys are part of the best thing on tv in the last twenty to thirty years for me no question.

[@bleepbloop101010101]

Hearing their writing process was great, I was a bit curious before how that split worked. Lots of insight into book marketing too, and yep can confirm the bright pink lettering against the blue background was genius!

[@JorgeTarafa]

Wes & Ty, thank you so much for bringing this side of the show to the fan's! I can't get enough of the background insight and character development conversations. Thank you!!!!!

[@rorymcclernon4674]

Another great episode but this weekly release schedule is killing me. I need MORE!

[@williamlloyd3769]

Agree, but weekly format gives you a chance to think about scenes, watch it again and listen to the discussion points. In 10 years I’ll binge watch the entire series in holo deck format! That will be epic!

[@tmmartin50]

Agreed. There is no reason for a streaming service to adopt a broadcast TV schedule. It makes more sense to take advantage of the ability to binge, rather than stringing people along piecemeal week to week.

[@meoff7602]

@@tmmartin50 No reasons for the customer. I think can one reason why Streaming service might want to do it. If people are only subscribing to Amazon for this show that means they will subscribe for one month binge watch cancel. With eight episodes. One a week that stretches it out to, two months. So getting people to pay for your service for two months is more profitable than one month.

[@loobkoob]

@@meoff7602 I'm enjoying it more on the weekly schedule, to be honest. There's much better discussion around each episode, I think. When season 4 came out, I binge-watched it in a few days. My friends took much longer to watch it - a few weeks in some cases - and by the time they finished it I had forgotten many of the finer details and it hampered our discussion. Our discussion is much better this season because we can't just move onto the next episode. The same goes for online discussion - I can go on reddit, Twitter, etc and have interesting discussions with people where we break down what happened, look at details, etc, whereas with season 4 everyone just moved onto the next episode straight away and the only real discussion was everyone's opinions of the whole season. Also, people are talking about The Expanse much more this season than with season 4 because it goes on for two months. With season 4, it came out, everyone talked about it for a week and then the discussion mostly died, whereas this time it's an ongoing discussion. It introduces more new people to the show, as well as being more engaging for current fans. Finally, I feel like it's much more engaging as a viewer when I have time to digest each episode before I watch the next. I can spend time thinking about it, discussing it, rewatching it if I want, and I feel like I have a more complete understanding and appreciation of each episode by the time the next one comes around. Binge-watching is still an option for the people who want it, too - you can just wait until all of the episodes are out and then binge-watch them.

[@fourthplanet]

Wes, that was such an interesting interview with Ty and Daniel. I am the same age as those guys and it was fun watching them talk about the tv when they were kids. The Expanse series has me so Hooked that I started reading the books a few months back. I am currently reading Babylon's Ashes here during the 5th season. Hey, you know something I love about the Expanse? You know how in Star Trek (not the original Star Trek) there could be a huge emergency but the characters weirdly have time to discuss there feelings ad nauseam... like they just stop what they are doing because some character is confused about how someone else is on the rag? Yeah, the Expanse doesn't do that. Congrats to all for making the best/coolest Science fiction TV series ever.

[@BanIanMe]

Definitely not boring, loving these :)

[@mikes.8647]

I am so thankful that I had the chance to watch these guys casually discuss, that was so wholesome

[@lynettra7818]

honestly you guys take my intelligence for granted. this show forces me to become smarter. had to watch the episode three times to understand what Naomi was doing, and the message interruptions. Brilliant writing, editing, acting, just brilliant! i enjoy being challenged by the science in my science-fiction :)

[@kassistwisted]

I love hearing authors talk about how books sell these days. The more I hear, the more I understand, the more I figure out what I have to do to get my book seen. Thanks Ty and Dan (and Wes for hosting).

[@seriouslypretending]

I want to hear Wes and Ty talk about the OG twilight zone!

[@charlesmcgehee3227]

I love Amazon Prime Video. Always something there that I love.

[@stanisnero1478]

Wes, Ty and Daniel - I find your discussions fascinating, perhaps as much as the show itself, thanks for putting these episodes out as its an amazing look behind the scenes.

[@Gabriel-fw2mj]

I enjoyed it. You guys wrote an amazing story that I am addicted to.

[@LegendaryGauntlet]

Wes is a great interviewer. Would be at home with his own late show :)

[@joshturner2970]

I've never been into sci-fi or watch much TV and I started the series a few months ago after my brother has been badgering me about giving it a chance. Here I am watching these aftershows and fancuts all across KZbin. Thank you for the change in perspective.

[@CallMeBarles]

This episode feels like Wes interviewing the authors and I'd love to hear this unedited.

[@steyefong590]

It is a pleasure to know the little insight from the writers. Thanks

[@DaveJohnsonUT]

Just FYI, that was not boring at all. I enjoyed every minute.

[@lauragood9741]

Wes does a great job as host! I get my "Amos fix" at least visually watching the podcast but it's a delight to learn more about Wes as himself.

[@jamesholland5761]

Great episode! Never boring!

[@kurtlauer9885]

I was always that RPG guy who saw a movie or TV show and thought it would make a great game. When I heard that The Expanse started as a game, I knew I would love it. One of these days, I would love to see the original "Game Notes" that Ty started with at the convention. That would be a real treasure.

[@1p8Bar]

The OGs together! I've been waiting so long for this! 😀

[@snakeinthegarden1146]

Would love to see more videos with the two writers!! Best one of these so far!

[@walkerdavidm]

This is the new equivalent to Blu Ray extras.

[@coreynelson7624]

I over listening in on your conversation! Keep it going for sure.

[@TheManWithAS]

Though you didn't talk about it, thank you for the opening scene and showing how people traveling in the outdoors really have to live. It probably shocked a few but when you are out in nature and you have to go, that's what you do! Thanks for making this show as real as possible! Great show and crew! Love it!

[@the6millionpman424]

Oh man this was the best one yet. The chemistry between you guys is brilliant and the conversation genuinely interesting. Eagerly awaiting the podcast starting up.

[@fourthhorseman4531]

Great discussion guys, thank you!

[@jeremycunningham7897]

Fantastic show! Thanks v much ladies + gentlemen

[@davidj7516]

This aftershow video idea is fantastic. It is not only interesting, but it's also fun. Thank you very much Mr. Chantham and Mr. Franck. Just stinkin' great. And great narrating Mr. Chatham, in all these videos.