The F/A-18 Will BREAK The Game - War Thunder

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

The F/A-18 Hornet is an aircraft many are looking forward to and for good reason. It is iconic and dominant. In this video I go through it's history and its affect on War Thunder when it is added

[@Di3struct]

From who are you getting the leaklist and are they correct of valid?

[@user-wedgezeckx]

eurofighter typhoon??????????????????????

[@Trooper_1198]

How long do you think it will take for them to add planes like the f22 and j 20

[@oofdotcom]

​​@@Trooper_1198 2-3years depending how greedy gaijin is

[@Winter_wolfie_woof]

They probably will be adding the f18 a not the f/a 18 super hornet

[@milkbaologist5610]

last time i was this early, the top tier consisted of maus vs is-3 and mig vs sabre.

[@ChaosKoda]

Times have changed friend

[@jaguareagle7026]

Now sabres and migs fight against f104s and su25s with all aspects :((((

[@kajmak64bit76]

​@@jaguareagle7026does it still fight SU-25's and all aspects? Must be the later sabres... 9.0 or 9.3 ones They uptiered/decompressed SU-25 and maybe Sabre got downtiered maybe But F-104 Is still there lol

[@josephthebig2889]

@@jaguareagle7026 dont forget the french bombers at 9.0 which spawn on air field with one of the slowest accelerations I have ever seen for a bomber.

[@elkrumb9159]

@@jaguareagle7026 no they don’t lol, all MiG and Sabre variants are 9.0 at most

[@braedynhoward3644]

Can't wait for the F18, I've been waiting for years. Don't get me wrong, I love all American aircraft, but I particularly love the F-18. My dad flew F-18s in the Marines, and I got to watch them take off and land only a few thousand feet from the runway. I also got the privilege of sitting in my dad's f 18 several times, seeing them many times in the hangar, and flying the simulators. I love the F-18!

[@Attack_The_D_Point]

You gotta try the hornet in dcs it’s an absolute beast.

[@braedynhoward3644]

@@Attack_The_D_Point When I have the proper setup, that's the first thing I'm doing. The cool thing is my dad has an ejection seat, and he's gonna let me use it when setting everything up. It's gonna be epic

[@syntaxerror1268]

Recent leaks say it will go to Germany

[@Kaciu-_-]

@@syntaxerror1268 because of that that leak lost any credbility to me, germany has no f-18's IRL so that is a total non-sense, germany should get eurofighter instead and the uS should get f-18

[@syntaxerror1268]

@@Kaciu-_- Germany is getting the Swiss fa18

[@titortinhas228]

if i remember people said the same thing when F-14 was coming, well indeed f14 did break the game in that time faster agile and deadly, but all of this doesnt matter if the pilot is bad so who knows.

[@mrwolf2120]

I agree. most of the time it all depends on the pilot

[@2goober4u]

F-14 vs Mig-23 was like trying to land on Omaha beach with all the pheonixes in the air

[@titortinhas228]

​@@2goober4u Exactly 😂 i got one match that ended in less than 5 minutes, i got 4 aim-54 and all of them killed someone and the same happened to my f14 teammates we just take off launched some shit at them, then we returned to the hangar like nothing happened.

[@mike4402]

@@titortinhas228 russians are always given better things though. r27er and r73 makes any of these superior planes irrelevant.

[@AdamTheGoat-vq1gs]

@@mike4402 not even true, russia just had the long range meta since R73's were horrible, Aim-9M's were excellent and still are, and the Aim-7M was still lethal, the R27ER was long overrated

[@Polishcow49]

don't worry, this game is already broken beyond repair snd will be as long as it is developed by gaijin

[@skkrrtt55]

If they increased RP gain by 25%, it really wouldn't affect gaijin financially. It would give the company more respect by the community and would bring players back, and new players would most likely stick around more

[@otterf104]

I mean, balancing in this type of game is really difficult

[@PRBalex19]

Been playing since before Britain was even a nation. I don’t think the game is broken, but I do think whenever they add a new mechanic or weapon system, there needs to be counter weapons added (ie: pantsir with its range, yet no anti radiation missiles) there are others but that’s the only thing I can honestly complain about.

[@As19240]

​@@PRBalex19 pantsir with it insane range IS absurd rn

[@Nebby_Webby]

Especially if you look at Germany or the US​@@As19240

[@F0X1ROT]

I mean they could still add the F-14D

[@maxmax-lo7pj]

F-14D will come next patch 100%

[@tankm200]

No​@@maxmax-lo7pj

[@Trace240]

I hope so

[@UMAD800]

unfortunately the D is still very much classified. Probably because of Iran still flying f14's but who knows

[@PavewayIII-gbu24]

give it the jamming pod

[@Zealot2024]

I don't see how the F-18 is game-breaking. The F-16C can already do everything (probably better too in some areas). Almost every nation in the game (except Germany) has good multi-role fighter capabilities. Russia is slightly disadvantaged because their Su-27SM doesnt have a targetting pod, but it still works. Britain has the JAS39C, Japan had the F-16AJ, China has an F-16A MLU, Italy has a JAS39EBS HU C and the AV-8B+, France has an F-16AM and the mirages, Sweden has a JAS39C, and Israel has the Barak II. But aside from that, which areas of the game are going to be broken? It's multi-role capabilities are not going to break Air RB. There is already healthy air-to-air competition at top tier. In ground, I doubt the F-18 will break anything as the F-16C already does nearly everything the F-18 can do in terms of ground pounding. The F-18 may be better in terms of it's air-to-air capabilities (or it might not be), but even if it were, the US has some of the worst SPAA in the game, so it's not like the F-18 is giving the US an unfair advantage.

[@D_Azera]

He is just trying to make more views saying it is game breaking lmao

[@kubek3064]

yes and no, max takeoff weight is almost 10 000 pounds more in f18c, it has 4 more hardpoints, more armament , slightly better radar, also you can bring jammers on f18 while you cannot do it in f16, you have anti-ship missile (id like to have it on sim battles), more ammo to the gun also you have better targeting pods but its significantly slower and worse in climbing than f16, and slightly worse rwr than f16c i think what hes trying to say is its not goona be absolutely broken, but in god hands you can do literally everything you want

[@kniter01]

I like how you forgot the F15J JMSIP exists and the AAM4s are better than the AIM120

[@grantplazb1648]

maybe the euro fighter wood be good for germany

[@buddyrodgers3999]

He's just generating hype for clickbait.

[@blackjack8697]

the legacy hornet wouldnt really break the game it should already be in tbf, dosent really do anything that other jets cant do

[@Rempai420]

It's already outperformed by the F-16c and should be in game already.

[@ugs192]

A C model hornet might compare to a C model viper

[@gustavofelix3433]

War Thunder is in the 4th gen, completely immersed in the era of multirole fighters since the Apex Predator updates. In Rb we have already dealt with planes with 10 missiles and super maneuverable

[@Godzilla-nc4hu]

Legacy Hornets will break the game they are super light and could be a good dog fighter

[@ugs192]

@@Godzilla-nc4hu the gripe is a great dogfighter and is in the game

[@interestingcan]

As a propulsion engineer, MOAR ENGINE PICS

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

The aircraft equivalent of upskirt shots.

[@interestingcan]

@SomeOrdinaryJanitor 🤣🤣 love it!! "That's a nice flame holder"

[@BabaGrill69-cb8zn]

*F A/18 with the Blue Angels skin* chefs kiss

[@RT42069]

I wish they would put the Blue Angel skin on the A-4

[@IsfetSolaris]

Let's be honest. They'll do the same thing they did with the F-15. They'll just give us a SUPER tuned down version of the real life aircraft, and they'll buff its counterparts from other nations far beyond their real capabilities to make them compete.

[@raging_maniac11]

Just so everyone knows the F/A-18 Hornet and the Super Hornet are different air frames

[@TheRealSteve42]

I don’t think it will break the game at all. It’s performance is very good, but nothing we haven’t seen yet. It has an amazing turn rate, but we already have the Mirage 2000 and Gripen. It’s radar is a good radar, but again, it’s really not anything we haven’t seen. It’s air to ground armament is excellent, but none of that matters if aircraft continue to spawn at 5,000ft only 3 miles from the battlefield on some maps, where a good Pantsir player could shoot you down before you can even decend into cover. It really won’t be any better than the F-16C, considering it probably won’t survive long enough to release its whole bomb load, while at the same time it will still lose every Match with America’s 33% winrate anyways. In regards to air-to-air loadouts, we already have the F-15C with eight AMRAAMs, which to be honest, will perform better than the Hornet in BVR and high altitude combat anyway. It might be really, really good… but that’s kind of how every new top tier vehicle goes when it gets added, then eventually the spam starts to die down and people realize they were only constantly dying to them because all of the good players were trying it out.

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

if they model it correctly, it will certainly be the best dogfighter in the game, with its very high turn rate and low speed energy retention, have you seen how hard and sharp F-18s can turn, and how they just dont stall? its crazy

[@math1ass10]

Nah i wouldnt wanna fight a hornet in bvr, even with a f-15c, if the hornet is carrying its 10 amraam loudout and the player is compitent, he will simply keep me out of merge range while i keep him out, untill i run out of my 8 amraams. Of course he is fat and bulky and a little slower, but by the time it actualy matters, He will still have 2 amraams, and way less bulk, insane aoa preformance, ON TOP of him still having 2 sidewinders while im guns only. You are wastly underestimating the hornet. If i were in a f-16 id probably just shoot 1 amraam, and just completely run away, cuz i aint doing shit with my 6 amraams.

[@hurrdurrimaburr]

@@toyotawitha20mm35 This is just a legacy hornet lol.

[@rmz9054]

​@@hurrdurrimaburr legacy hornet beats the breaks off the rhino

[@D_Azera]

​@@toyotawitha20mm35it will not be the best dogfighter j39 will always be better at that

[@PalexHorse]

Bout to have the F-22 at br 14.3 I also love how these top tier jet games just mainly consist of F-16s, F-15s, F-14s, and Harriers

[@rowanyuh6326]

Cant forget gripen amraam and mica mirages are useable ig

[@PalexHorse]

@@rowanyuh6326 I feel we’re at the point of having to use paper planes for new air craft or just better variants, I just don’t like the fact most countries don’t have distinguished jets, they all just use from another nation which kind of kills top tier jets for me

[@toxickilljoy9037]

​@rileysexton3043 most countries do that in real life you know.... that's why India buys russian, Iran buys Russian, Israel has its own stuff, Italy uses Russian and European fighters, you either make jets yourself or buy them from the people who do.... that's always been a thing

[@gasparferrandisromero1075]

this happens because Pact is not on pair.

[@paulmiller9767]

@@toxickilljoy9037israel does not have their own stuff hahahahaha

[@sokandueler9578]

The thing about the F-18 in a dogfight scenario is that the plane can bleed energy essentially at will.

[@sankyu3950]

3:25 minor correction airforce not army either way no big deal

[@DALONEWOLF108]

There are so many American planes they can add that were in the Cold War era even the vought designs

[@oliverwange8264]

Yeah it would be nice to get more of the century series aircraft.

[@alexandreaudard4309]

Nah ain't no way the rafale and the f/A 18 are in the same update

[@lazer2238]

It would be a good idea if the rafale prototype & the eurofighter prototype got added. Currently, there is a lack of reason to play most nations that don't have the Aim-120 or have other issues such as airframes, US has both and with the f18 itll remain one of the best albeit other nations such as sweden & the UK can get the f18. Some nations really lack right now, for example, Germany with its f4, russia with the su27, china with j11, Israel with no TWS, france can be worth it but the m2k is still worse than the f15 especially after fm nerf.

[@Onezmhu]

@@lazer2238 UK can get F-18 ????

[@M4ximus_]

@@Onezmhu yep, so could germany bc of the swiss line

[@Onezmhu]

@@M4ximus_ i know about the swiss F-18s but why the UK ?

[@Feather1919]

The FA-18 is my favorite aircraft, I’d be very happy once it comes to the game

[@TKSubDude]

You should look up the podcast by a tuber going by "C.W. Lemoine" who I believe was a F-18 pilot. He said the Fly-by-wire would keep the F-18 in the air and manuvering at @98 knots. That's going to make the furballs very nasty. Check out his channel. LOTS of good stuff on modern combat aircraft from one of the pilots.

[@InterstellarTaco]

For anybody that actually knows the F18s capabilities it will be powerful for ground, and ok for air. It can carry a lot of missiles, sure but it's very slow, and doesn't climb well, compared to the F15, F14, Mig 29, and SU 27.

[@John.S.Patton]

What's the state's of the vehicle's?

[@2goober4u]

We are in the age of the missile meta, climb rate is pretty irrelevant compared to missile set

[@InterstellarTaco]

@2goober4u that's only a half truth. The F15C is so dominant because of its missile load and it's climb rate. Your missiles are vastly more effective if fired from altitude and at a high speed. Something the F18A or C will struggle with. The SU27 SM carries a ton of missiles and it doesn't perform great. It's cucked by its flight performance.

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

It's very slow only in max speed, but do you really go over Mach 1.8 in regular matches ?

[@f18gamerboy]

​​@@InterstellarTaco well the main thing why the SU-27 SM sucks at top tier is that it can only guide 2 rockets (Fox 3) at a time... and the F-15C can guide all 8 at the same time... it's not the flight performance...

[@narcissus5970]

The F18 more than breaking will fix the game, It will mainly be the saviour of Germany

[@darkhope8983]

Imagine getting F-117 in game before F18:)

[@Jadefox32]

We're more likely to get the F-18 hornet before the F/A-18 super hornet

[@UMAD800]

i mean, obviously lol

[@Jadefox32]

@@UMAD800 I'm only pointing it out because tech combines the 2

[@luuk341]

The F404 is also powers the Gripens in game. Its Volvo RM12 is a license built version of the GE F404J

[@Muehlema1]

The first F-18C variants are about the same level as a F-16C Block 52. As long as we will not see the implementation of the current Swiss Air Force implementation which largely contains the Superhornet avionics and cockpit, then i see no issue.

[@Mamiya645]

Congrats Sweden getting the premiere of the F18 via Finland, my bruh's to the US for having to wait a patch to get theirs.. /heads back into time machine

[@gustavofelix3433]

Italy and Brits get j39 C first than the Swedes, and in seek and destroy upddate, whoever played as a Swede had to grind a new plane and do the stock grind up to the RB99, while Italy and the British only researched a 20k modification

[@humbuggaming2126]

@@gustavofelix3433 Its stupid because jas39A also had rb99. It was even used on the JA37D (whole reason for modification was to make it able to use aim 120/rb99) so really sweden should have 3 planes that carry it

[@oppositelock4356]

Sooooo much want, ill be slightly bummed if it doesn't come this update but certainly could see why it wouldn't

[@nyccoyax3831]

and then youll want f22 and then f35 and so on and so forth.. never satisfied always wanting the next best shiny op bullshit just so you can finally cure your skill issue

[@oppositelock4356]

@@nyccoyax3831 someone sounds like their projecting 😉 or needs a hug. Idk, you tell me which

[@mw9297]

@@nyccoyax3831no make it fair for the virtual reality where Russia and China can cope with the dominance of America.

[@HighRiskV]

F-18 is not very fast, accelerates ok but it is very draggy, specially if you bring a full suit of missiles. F-16C or F-15C will be more meta, specially early game where speed and climb rate is so important. Often I climb on min fuel and spam my fox3's at 10km or higher at a decent speed and get some early kills which results in my team having a easy time snowballing win. Sometimes I don't do it just for variety but its not as meta.

[@ReviveHF]

All F/A-18 variants had superior AOA maneuverability and energy retention than the F-16 variants but inferior thrust to weight ratio and climb rate.

[@HighRiskV]

@@ReviveHF I'm not sold on the energy retention part, but those are anyway mostly useful for late game dogfights which happens almost never because matches take like 3min

[@bigmemer4398]

@@ReviveHF How tf are you getting better energy retention than the f-16 with this weak ass engine and the weight of the aircraft

[@mp40submachinegun81]

​@@ReviveHF F16 will win retention every time. F18 will be better in the 1st circle and low speed.

[@areyou0k98]

​@@ReviveHFnon of that matters in air rb though lol.

[@VeryGrainyBread-c6k]

the F/A-18 hornet wouldn't break the game, but the F/A-18 super hornet probably would.

[@SeastarCZ]

I bet that if Gaijin wants to add it, they will just strip it from everything they deem too OP and just release a jet without most of its real weapons. :/

[@pugthug3163]

It uses Aim-120's and Aim-9's, it can be added already

[@2goober4u]

​@@pugthug3163so does the F-22

[@unnamed_7852]

@@2goober4u f22 is 5th gen. Also it uses a lot more modern versions. f22 can't even use aim120a/b, missiles are too big for it.

[@2goober4u]

@@unnamed_7852 but the F-18 can use the D3-EZ missile

[@Schluggernaut]

That’s the Israel tech tree experience

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

Imagine if Gaijin adds a tier IX and they add in the F-35 and SU-57 into the game.

[@Dawn-zc4ok]

Recently found you looking for general tips to farm the persian tomcat. The nice background history vibes while grinding out the event is so chill. I expected mainly like meta discussion from this, however was pleasantly surprised by the educational focus.

[@HopelessUtahFan]

Hey I just wanted to change what you said. Technically The super hornet didn’t replace the legacy the f-35 did. Now in a world of multi role aircraft it’s very muddled

[@warcriminal121]

0:52 team kill is devious

[@saplingseedsaccrew3143]

8:55 Worth noting the F-18A+ is able to use AMRAAM iirc

[@Tigerheart01]

Hard to believe that with the F-15C available, that the F-18 would be seen as "too much".

[@함께지내던나날들]

F/A-18C/D will come out this year December, ofc because it's time for adding 4.5(or 4+) gen fighters such as Rafale or Eurofighter to come out, and Hornet will take similar place to them.

[@derboss.]

man, that crash at 2:55 into the rock was satisfying xD

[@Planeenjoyer99]

they should make either EA-18 or YF-17 as a premium if they add the hornet, And start with legacy hornet obviously.

[@garrettkaufer7962]

"Standard" legacy hornet is still in service

[@antoniojmols]

Story videos are always usefull and wellcome. Great job dude!

[@jfletcher3285]

Excellent review of the F-18. one correction, the F=16 was picked up by the Air Force, not the Army. Great work though. :)

[@Rutherfordium2023]

War thunder should add a theater mode where you can respawn but from a limited pool of rp and just a massive map where you can cap spawns

[@xSl4ught3Rx]

“Will break the game” was said about every 4th gen that was gonna be added, albeit with some exceptions ofc

[@mumpetwombat822]

Getting an Australian hornet with ASRAAMS would be amazing

[@thatgreenneko]

We already have the F-16, AV-8B+, and the Gripen. Those 3 aircraft can do every role well.

[@jumpjet115]

It’d be nice if it came to the British line as either the Canadian or Aussie hornets as we need something OP

[@__LuCHs__]

It would make more sense for them to add the f18 instead of the super hornet(yes they are different)

[@RT42069]

The Super Hornet has highly advanced avionics, much beyond what is in game currently. It would be the equivilent of putting a PD TWS HMS equipped plane against 1940s-50s jets.

[@sebastianc2811]

fantastic video, i learned a lot! thanks!

[@kiwi-ut5os]

and whats crazy about the legacy hornet is that there are like 4 other countries that had them, so they could give to a few countries from the get go, or later on.

[@jameson1239]

It’s radar is already in game, it’s flight performance is at best equal to a Gripen or Mirage 2000, we already have AIM-120s in game and even then the early A model couldn’t use them and even if we get a later model A+ or C the hornet is kinda slow so the AMRAAM won’t really be that great on it, its air to ground capability is going to be roughly equal to an F-16C how exactly will it break the game? It’s just going to be a faster more heavily armed AV-8B

[@humbuggaming2126]

Gripen also has a domestically prodouced and improved F404

[@CursedTheReal]

When the F20 came out me and my friend shit our pants when we saw it figuratively ofc. Now we will non figuratively shit our pants…

[@jihbadgermonkey]

I have done enough digging to know that the Fa18c is coming to warthunder in the american tech tree for the end of year carrier and naval plane update. There might be an american premium showing as the yf17, the canadian cf188 for britain. Both the early and the c for america used the aim9m and amraams (early 120 a or b), up to 6 if they give us the two double pilons for the c, the early could have 4. But I hope they introduce the fa18c's signature ground ordinances: the agm84 SLAM (the ER or the standard idc) YES BRITISH BOIS GET THEM ON THE CF188

[@jihbadgermonkey]

Ps, EuropeanCanadian love the videos I look forward to the next ones

[@brads5600]

People give the Hornet way too much credit. It can achieve good AoA which is its dogfighting party trick. Just sit there and squat down and point the nose anywhere. However this can only be achieved when running in a lighter config. When it gets loaded up with fuel, arms it handles like a dog and it’s slow. “Near Mach 2” is a massive overstatement. If you need to go anywhere at decent speed for any amount of time you need to carry bags and there goes it’s “amazing handling” it’s a multi-role aircraft through and through but you can’t have it all. Don’t get me wrong I still love it and am excited for another naval aircraft.

[@soldatsnek195]

Started from the bottom at the start and kept digging deeper!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@dewey7085]

How many AAMRAMS do you want? Hornet: All of them

[@lynx-alpha2073]

10x120C and 2x9X on the tips if anything still gets close

[@RT42069]

Throw in a couple of AIM-174 SM6 for good measure

[@SpydderEdits]

small correction, the F16 never went in service for the army it was only used by the air force

[@DickCheneyXX]

Imagine if the Army fielded a F16. The Pentagon would be aflame.

[@ClankerWanker]

I don’t think it’s going to break the game really unless they do something like add it’s SLAM ER or HARMs. Those are really what make it stand out IMO. Also you mention speed, those engines are efficient but they aren’t terribly powerful. Additionally it’s a draggy airframe. It doesn’t have great energy retention with any ordinance on it at all and its max speed is drastically reduced. In ground I think it’s just going to be another very strong cas vehicle but in air it’s going to be worse than the F15 flight performance wise, possibly worse than the f16 too and it will only be better in either category for carrying AMRAAMs since it can take 4 double wing racks with 2 fuselage mounts for 10 total with wingtip sidewinders. But with that much stuff if you don’t shoot them off fast you’re going to be slow if someone makes you turn

[@chrisg6091]

This has been said every time a new top tier vehicle is added

[@seanspringer2396]

F-117 lurking in the back of the class 😂

[@YourUncleGreg]

Only issue would be its underperforming engines. As it is quite chunky with all kind of ordinance. It would be hilarious, to see that happy chonky boi called Hornet that is about to explain enemy team why he's the best at everything :D

[@Oliepolie]

I can't wait for the F-2, it shouldn't be too far behind

[@nicojokelin5547]

F-18 has firepower of F-15 and the agility of the F-16

[@randypipper92]

The F18 in WT: gets rekt by a Mig 21🫠

[@bt_the_yank6234]

It will be on par with everything else as far as ata goes. Its high speed performance is lacking compared to the f15/16 but low speed performance is very good. It can carry a lot of missiles but those missiles in turn make the plane very draggy, reducing its too speed and acceleration thus reducing the effective range if its aim120

[@Forestmarko]

yeah.. same was said about F-16 and Mig-29 same was said about previous generations of jets. same was said about modern vehicles overall...

[@veanie_]

If the F/A 18 comes to war thunder Finland will finally get a top tier jet

[@MrAcuta73]

I would expect The Snail to artificially nerf the Hornet much like they did with the Eagle to keep it from domination. F-15 has probably no more than 3/4 of the thrust to weight ratio it does IRL. Likely they'll do similar. Limit its available weapons, retard flight performance in some way, etc

[@ricolives1166]

With the F18, I wouldn't be surprised if their is also a F16 or F15 premium. Not F14 since the Iran event one but I could be wrong. Good money. Good business

[@lonurad1259]

idk. Truthfully the f18 is gonna be weak in air rb. The truth is it's not very fast compared to most jets (it creates a lot of drag). Which in turn means the missiles aren't going to perform as well. and in ground rb... well try playing aircraft in ground rb at top tier. The most this thing will do is be an annoyance in air rb, kill a bunch of ground targets then be able to kill a plane or two if it's lucky. But on the flipside, most of them will get farmed...

[@trivixni435]

thats why i love the F/A 18, it does lots of things, multirole baybe

[@zeta4687]

no need to worry about f18 being Op. even if it have a wild weapon selection irl doesn't mean gaijin will give us that much option

[@botaccount5166]

brother. I just want to see the tech trees balanced before adding another top tier vehicle to a nation that clearly don't need it yet

[@bohba13]

F/A-18 is a beast. then there's the Super Hornet.

[@janusz4156]

50 years of YF-17 in 2024, 45 years of F/A-18 in 2023 and 30 years of Super Hornet in 2025.

[@PvtPartzz]

I don’t think any of the points that were brought up don’t already apply to the F16C. It’s arguably better since it has better kinematic performance. The only thing the F18 will have over the F16 is endurance.

[@michaelbraun74]

If the F-14 D super tomcat ever gets added to war thunder, how would you all think we’ll be added? Will it be an event vehicle a premium or a tech tree vehicle?

[@josephthebig2889]

wish the soviets could get a good multirole fighter with long range thermal bombs/rockets with good radar and better missiles for BVR but hey cant have anything in WT.

[@dontworry2379]

F18 with SM6 🗿

[@MrTefe]

F-18 for USA and Finland would make me grind both countries instantly

[@garinpeyro]

they could add the f18A but that one does not carry amraams. so it would not be a top tier fighter. unless they add the C variant at the same time

[@master4098]

While I agree that hornet will fit warthunder really well, with Amraams and high alpha capability. I think youre overselling it a little bit on performance. It should be strictly worse than F16/F15 in kinematics. It will not do mach 2 in any way that's useful, youll have to be winchester with half gas in a dive, and even than i bet you'll not getting much more than 1.7. Truth is, it gets REALLY draggy in full A/A loadouts, much more than F15 or F16. Recovering lost energy is also much slower than both 15/16. Only real advantage it has is high alpha and controllability on low speeds.

[@Shankmeyster]

We deserve the Hornet finally and it can be in so many tech trees

[@thatboydre7585]

In bvr terms the hornet is great but getting up to speed wise high alt will be a small challenge def not the like f16 or anything else that gets super fast

[@RedVRCC]

Just add the Su-30SM too, perfect balanced as all things should be.

[@kmalone06]

The F/A-18a should have been in the game months ago. Early versions with only sparrows would not have been an issue ever.

[@The-ThunderTiger]

"The F-15 will break the game" Lmao

[@sonwig5186]

Red side is going to be really weak unless they add the vehicles China needs, not just one but all of them. And include the J8 with American radar as a premium.

[@f4mmer540]

TLDR it could carry 10 AMRAAMs and 2 winders simultaniously

[@TheReverendPlays]

Going with the F/A-18 also meant they didn't have to get an air force aircraft again. Sibling rivalry and all.

[@dragondaan8668]

i think the rafale is also definitely a competitor of the F/A 18 hornet. Both are navel aircraft with amazing low speed performance and the ability to carry a lot of weapons into battle.

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

oh for sure, they will be the best dogfighting aircraft in the game. the SU-27 should be equal with them too but unfortunately warthunder fucked up the flankers flight models very badly

[@dragondaan8668]

@@toyotawitha20mm35 Gripen E would also be a crazy dog fighter but Gaijin has also ruined that flight model.

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

@dragondaan8668 the gripen has a good flight model, it's just only good in the 2 circle .

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

@@dragondaan8668 gajin just doesn't like to make any planes other than French or American planes to dogfight well for some reason.

[@dragondaan8668]

@@toyotawitha20mm35Yes but it is not supposed to be a 2 circle fighter 😂. and even then it’s still not great. The current mirage 2000 eats gripen alive in a 1v1 dogfight. The old gripen flight model was far more accurate than the current one. They just added the gripen to early and because of that they nerfed it into the ground.

[@Fast85FoxGT]

HORNET MOMENT BABY!! WHAT IS ANGLE OF ATTACK LIMITATION RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[@Godzilla-nc4hu]

If they add the F18 they should also add a premium CF18 in the British tech tree

[@datcheesecakeboi6745]

Why a premium?

[@Godzilla-nc4hu]

@@datcheesecakeboi6745 nvm I thought the game would be too unbalanced before so I thought making it a premium would be okay. When I realized that Germany would get the Hornets because of Switzerland, maybe Japan with some Thai Hornets, maybe the UK with Canadian Hornets and obviously the US Hornets. I realized making one hornet a premium for a tech tree that isn't too good at top tier would be a bad idea. So yes why make it a premium, it sounds pretty stupid of me to think that making it a premium was a good idea. Thank you for bringing me to this realization.

[@spherojon1]

crazy how far ahead America "was"....you mean, "still is"...looking at you F22/F35

[@adrianstachowski9422]

I wouldn't go crazy with super fast. It's mach 1.8 capable and have less t/w ratio than F16 so less acceleration here aswell

[@Jack-yz5ws]

Shit that breaks the game never stopped them before, won't start now.

[@brandonporter3866]

It’s a Jack of All Trades, Master of None

[@garrettospageto7659]

Don’t worry, they will make it shit