The F8F-1 At 4.7 Makes Total Sense Actually!

[@Hazey652]

Ah yes my favourite, the barely balanced barrel

[@smigoltime]

early access simp ;-------D

[@DEFYN]

You mean he does unplaid labour 🙃

[@districtnull]

​@@DEFYN How much disadvantage is letting the instructor in game switching turbo gears compared to manual?

[@TheRandomshite123]

​@@districtnull basically none, automatic engine control handles everything bar temperature pretty well

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@TheRandomshite123 japanese props say ye wot?

[@kermit_thefrog029]

The Bearcat was used as a modified racer after the war, and used to hold the world record for fastest prop plane (528 mph or 850 kmh)

[@JunkNVamps]

*Crashes cause it's too good at being a racer*

[@arishokvok8460]

@@JunkNVamps Crashes cause the tip of the wing only on one side snapped off

[@JunkNVamps]

@@arishokvok8460 thought the guy blacked out, atleast according the MayDays documentary on it

[@arishokvok8460]

@@JunkNVamps I somehow responded and replied to the wrong comment. I was actually referring to the bad habits of early F8F with ingenious design of wings where the tips would bend/snap above 7/7.5G pull. Well, atleast that's how it supposed to work. My bad.

[@benjaminhurt8280]

It also set the climb rate record for a prop in the late 40s. The record was later beat by a bearcat with a modified racing engine. So the Bearcat holds the top 2 climb rate records

[@LowFlyer]

2:40 Those 5 yak-3s all within one camera angle are something to behold

[@aaronjohn2633]

Yakkity Yak!

[@jerrymartin7019]

I HATE YAKKERS

[@titortinhas228]

I remember when this was at 6.0 sometimes facing jets

[@alterego2421]

same 😂😂😂

[@Fuzeha]

I mean hypothetically it can still face the P-59

[@Tir33nts343]

That’s the f8f with 20mms

[@zedoktor979]

This one was 6.0 with the cannon cat still st 6.3 IIRC.

[@DylanAlexander-nv1ez]

It’s still 6.0 in sim.

[@GoldRunner95]

"especially when there's multiple of them" *shows a swarm of Yak-3s*

[@ThePurpleguy123]

The J7W1 is still 6.0 by the way :)

[@reinbeers5322]

Better move it to 6.3 to keep the P-51D-30s safe

[@Nate_935_]

@@ThePurpleguy123 such a sad plane At least give it an interceptor air spawn gaijoob

[@viperz3r016]

J7W1 isn't too bad, it's basically a flying shotgun

[@getehrwolf6111]

@@viperz3r016 A slow, bad climbing, and sluggish shotgun

[@viperz3r016]

@@getehrwolf6111 nah, not really

[@Nate_935_]

So, now there’s a zero that is two br steps above this thing Great balancing gaijoob

[@reinyfrost3753]

makes sense, though.

[@IJN_Guy]

​@@reinyfrost3753 Not really.

[@reinyfrost3753]

@@IJN_Guy Energy fighters aren't everything

[@Lenevor]

@@reinyfrost3753bait used to be realistic

[@IJN_Guy]

@@reinyfrost3753 They are. The Type 00 is a pretty bad plane when put into perspective - lacks in medium altitude/terrible at high-alt, 200rds of trustworthy ammo, terrible armor, terrible climb, low top-speed (which, at that BR range, does not do well) with excellent low stall characteristics that do not do much at that BR, and, if when you do get to higher speeds, you are still dead because you can't go beyond 340ish miles per hour without extreme compression. This isn't because of Gaijin, but because the plane, realistically, isn't good for mid to late-war. Now, compare that to the J2M, which has all the maneuverability buffs of a Japanese fighter with better flight and energy characteristics, the J2M beats the Type 00 most of the time and will survive engagements with frequency. Why? Because you have energy and better chances at catching up to a running away enemy. Yet, what type of plane is it? An energy-fighter. Give me any energy fighter that is within +/-1.0 of a 4.7BR and I will tell you how well the Type 00 does. I know because I used to use them heavily.

[@GeneralLee2000]

"They don't want any children 😭😭😭" 3:15

[@OwenBeyer-nr3dv]

I do

[@sneakycactus8815]

@@OwenBeyer-nr3dv no one asked!

[@OwenBeyer-nr3dv]

@@sneakycactus8815 ok

[@DzinkyDzink]

Yak-3 is a young man with an athletic build and a lot of talent at sports. He has bigger aspirations than fathering children with a frivolous amercan cougar.

[@Fuzeha]

I have a tip for the supercharger gears. If you use WTRTI to display engine horsepower, you can toggle the gear at about where u think the switch is - if the power goes down, then you're too early with the switch, and if it jumps up, you were too late. You can time it so that you switch at the exact altitude where the power from gear 2 starts becoming higher than the power from gear 1 It is of course extremely sweaty but it does remove the need to test and/or memorise all the gear-switch altitudes

[@Tom-jw7ii]

Why do you need to manually switch the gear? Is the automatic switching bugged?

[@admiral_alman8671]

@@Tom-jw7iiit’s probably flawed, just like automated radiator control

[@danielrunyon4830]

you need to manually switch if you're using MEC to control your cooling. i haven't noticed an instance of the auto switch being anything but ideal. i wouldn't call running WTRTI sweaty at all. i would call trying to test and memorize all the gear switch altitudes sweaty.

[@0GTXR]

You can probe SC gear change altitude by toggling AEC back and forth, looking at the HP.

[@Allmotorzl1]

@@0GTXR Man i love how you guys just assume people know what all of your abbreviations mean. What in the world is AEC and what is WTRT and how do i toggle that or what. Please stop using hard abbreviations for the newbies trying to learn. Thanks sincerely newbie.

[@girostade5477]

23:36 I bear witness to the truth

[@Alan-fv1or]

Cries in RE.2005

[@cookiecracker2]

??????

[@cyrusaverell3494]

I learned a lot from your commentary in this video. You did a good job explaining multiple aspects of that was happening in each fight.

[@OldinaryChimera]

Zeros for no reason: 6.7 😡 Bearcat literally doing a 1 vs 6 and winning: 4.7 🥰

[@Gamersbreath]

I love how defyn put cooked in the video photo

[@pedromedeiros4955]

Gayjin: we are balancing the F8F's performance by the average player. Average player: crashes on take off, turn fight zeros full of bombs, ground pound, bomb bases, refuse to climb at the start and complains that US tech tree is underpowered.

[@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824]

dont forget getting slammed by yaks and Lavochkins then spamming "ruSsIan Bias"

[@bmohr9826]

That’s the bane of the US tech tree. You need to climb but you don’t have a good climb rate so by the time you climb the match is over. You try to get some altitude but you’re still low so you die because you don’t have energy. Your options just aren’t very good

[@pedromedeiros4955]

@@bmohr9826 a lot of US planes(the F8F on itself for example)have a pretty good climb rate, and even for the ones that doesn't climb well, it's always good to climb at the start because even if you get out climbed, you can at least stay fast, dive away and bait them for your team, as opposed to mowing the lawn and getting killed by the first guy that you see. Not to mention that US planes in general like to stay fast so you can potentially force high speed reversals.

[@gabrielfelipe8180]

That's me

[@cola-warthunder]

@@bmohr9826 You don't even need much more than 4000-5000 meters in something like a p51d30, p47d28 or a p51h

[@christopherchartier3017]

Just recently beat it in a 109G6, it’s easy to take advantage of the F8F’s poor horizontal MER when the pilot sucks

[@cagingskies9584]

The FW190 A5 being the same br at this thing is downright sad.

[@theofroidevaux9844]

@@cagingskies9584 the fw190 A4 is basically the same plane at 4.0, and it's just an ok plane at that BR, so imagine at 4.7...

[@cagingskies9584]

@@theofroidevaux9844 Exactly my point haha The FW 190A1 has largely better performance, and it's at 3.0. It's a great plane, but certainly not the best even at THAT br.

[@csaysgrub]

and the cannon bearcat with (iirc) the same performance is at 6.3, so basically the 190 a4 should be uptiered to 6.3 🙂

[@cagingskies9584]

@@csaysgrub You know, I was JUST thinking that! A6M5 Ko to 7.0 while we're at it too please🙏🙏💯

[@hubril7921]

the best part of the A-5 is having the most rizzed up cockpit and skins out of all of the german props ingame

[@funkymarco4411]

This plane suffers from not being able to be used like how it was used irl. The f8f was build to be the perfect carrier based plane with the help of Jimmy Tach. It was a beast in the pacific

[@sule.A]

The plane will compressed more then the f4u4 currently does as the wingtips are very light

[@TheCoolParnell]

The plane was never used in combat.

[@maxmilianmrkev8371]

@@TheCoolParnellthe french bearcats in indo china saw combat, no?

[@TheCoolParnell]

@@maxmilianmrkev8371 In ground attack, not in aerial combat

[@maxmilianmrkev8371]

@@TheCoolParnell i see

[@KekusMagnus]

Impressive that the average player struggles to get kills in a plane that out-climbs, out-runs and out-dives everything it faces while also turning fairly well.

[@SA80TAGE]

yeah no duh, it's almost as if the "average player" doesn't know the strengths and weaknesses of every plane ever created in aviation history, who woulda thunk it. Hell one of my mates that plays tanks got me into the game, he knows pretty much every tank in the game inside out, but he doesn't know planes very well whereas I am the opposite... we often find ourselves coaching each other depending on the game mode and vehicle. It's impressive that you can't wind in your superiority complex for long enough to realise how dumb it is to expect everyone to know everything about every subject. This is a videogame with multiple game modes tailored for many people, not a homework assignment specifically for plane nerds.

[@KekusMagnus]

​@@SA80TAGE "Oh no, my plane flies better than any other plane it faces, what am I supposed to do!" You sound like you are below even the average player

[@SA80TAGE]

@@KekusMagnus no I'm just not an arrogant narcissist like you. Just because the plane flies better, doesn't mean the average player knows how to use ANY plane correctly, especially when they all have different strengths and attack styles. The "average player" flies in a straight line to the centre of the map into head-ons no matter what plane they're in. The "average player" does not know everything about every plane ever created for every single nation throughout history. You'd have to be an especially dumb mother****er not to understand this concept, so that arrogant superiority complex you're rocking is wildly unwarranted anyway. Imagine being so full of yourself that you have to gently stroke that insecure ego of yours by tearing down other people. How sad. I bet you're a toxic bitter adult that thinks every gamer you encounter is the same age as you (cause that's how multiplayer matchmaking works right? lol), not understanding that toddlers play games too, celebrating your victory over a what could be a 5 year old 🤣

[@LokirofRoriksted]

Now I'll finally be able to bring F8F in GRB with my T14. I was using a horrible p47 with 1000lb bomb on the wing tips, so I always had to drop both of them or my plane would flip and crash, but F8F has 3x1000s in the center

[@duncanmcgee13]

Both planes carry the bomb somewhat center of the wing. And its the other way around.

[@ozan1234561]

F8F becomes very unstable with asymmetrical loads

[@admiral_alman8671]

The P47 is really easy CAS. Just counter the balance issue with keyboard input

[@danielrunyon4830]

you're thinking about the F6F... the hellcat is the one that can carry 3x 1000lbs in the center.

[@Terrados1337]

Yes it's a chonky barrel but also 2.5k horses on WEP + wing root intakes + better airfoils + air dynamic smooth fuselage. It's only about 10% heavier than a P51D and held the time-to-climb record for A DECADE. I get the feeling something ain't right about flightmodel. Still. 4.7 super prop. kek. edit: anyone know if the wingtip separators work? edit-edit: triple kek on the Ki-43 rudder behavior.

[@ozan1234561]

No, this thing becomes a frisbee the moment wings take any damage whatsoever

[@KekusMagnus]

@@Terrados1337 Short squared-off wings trade energy retention for roll rate and top speed. It was designed to be fast and agile the expense of MER, which it is It's a lot easier to manage energy with a joystick, thats why its still 6.0 in SB

[@SA80TAGE]

@@KekusMagnus I usually prefer gamepads for most games but or some reason just can't jive with it n War Thunder compared to m+kb

[@LugborG]

This is one of my favorite planes for ground battles. It's great for taking out enemy air, and it gets a good loadout of secondary weapons.

[@handlesarecringe957]

It'll be extra hilarious to be bonking the Dicker Max with Tiny Tims

[@Cibohos]

that typhoon and wyvern truly made their best effort to give you the prettiest double kill

[@SailorIvo]

3:13 i laughed out loud, ty sir

[@kmodo93]

The little bit of irony of mentioning that this thing would be easier to use with a squad and the fact that it's the 3rd plane that would have used the Thatch weave as a primary tactic that would require said squadmate.

[@hunlepto2239]

Please cover the Me 262 with 50mm cannon. It's now 6.3 and it's hilarious when spaded.

[@Allmotorzl1]

Hilarious in a good or bad way? Im about to finish researching it

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

@@Allmotorzl1 think of it like an All-or-Nothing Me-262, the 50mm is easier to aim than other comparable cannons, but it's gunna take some getting used to. same performance and everything, but you either miss everything, or destroy everything. especially bombers.

[@irgiefarras]

making my enemies raging in chat while running away and they can't catch me on the slightest, so hilarious

[@bezimienny_andzej6425]

​@@SomeOrdinaryJanitorThe only good belt is stealth nowadays. Everything else has AP in it.

[@hunlepto2239]

@@Allmotorzl1 Both. The 50mm is very iffy to use, especially when stock, but it has high velocity HE and when it hits, it's a guaranteed kill. Also, you're basically untouchable as long as you don't let yourself be touched. It's kinda like an Fw 190 at 6.3, but with low firepower.

[@Bronco-wr9ii]

I think DEFYN meant "supercharger gear change at one thousand meters [altitude]," not "one thousand kilometers" 8:32

[@fishjohn014]

Nope. He meant 1000 kilometers

[@Bronco-wr9ii]

@@fishjohn014 No he did not mean 1000 km altitude. The Bearcat has a 2-stage supercharger, and the pilot selects the appropriate gear depending on aircraft pressure altitude. DEFYN was referring when to switch gears, from gear 1 to gear 2, and thus the altitude he is discussing would involve 1000s of meters, not 1000 of kilometers. No Bearcat is flying at 1000,000m altitude. But thanks for your mindless input.

[@semiedgv]

Nope 1000 kilometers is correct

[@guyperson6567]

​@@Bronco-wr9iinice ruzzian propaganda buddy, everyone knows the bearcat flew missions at 800-1000 km alt

[@cola-warthunder]

1000 kilometers is, in fact, the correct altitude.

[@crispy_338]

Spam it before they revert it

[@pandablackster]

I still prefer the yak9u at 4.7

[@DimaMuskind]

My favourite plane of all times

[@Янус_Ырт]

La-7 better

[@dr.neptune3649]

For me, the 4 12mm’s have been laser beams at times even without the gunpods so you should defynitely try it at one point with the performance increase

[@cactuslietuva]

its insanely good and overpowered, every game i get 5-6 kills with it. the 50cal even if it doesn't rip enemy to shreds it cripples them for easy second pass kill

[@squishface80085]

It might be time for me to remake the whole performance vs ergonomics video.

[@Affrajam]

cheeseburger?

[@jasotpatakasu8673]

Actually bad fighter idea: c205n, fat zero A6M5 Hei, Firebrand, ki87

[@villie86]

The C.205n2 is a real stinker as of now. I second the recomendation.

[@irgiefarras]

what about the last Re.2005 ? i heard it got nerfed heavily in the past that noone use it anymoree

[@villie86]

@@irgiefarras it suffers the same condition as the c.205 and the G55: they’ve slapped 2 x 20 mm cannons on the wings and raised its BR. The engine is the same so it flies worse but meets higher BR planes

[@reinbeers5322]

J7W1, still 6.0 :))))

[@CeramicDread360]

performance based match making + american teams = under tiered vehicles

[@codexjerry1156]

same formula for german mid tier tanks and american premium tanks (mah abrums hur dur)

[@Tentacl]

​@@codexjerry1156tanks have a completely unique issue tough - lineups, not single vehicles, matter. And because grinding is slow suddenly giving a nation the best tank will not change the fact that, well, basically more people have full Ru lineups and respawn to the end compared to any other. When it comes to up to BR 6.7 it should just be not allowed to pair Ru and Ger, it's auto-win, and not because one specific vehicle is OP.

[@Delantho]

its only gotten worse with the 20 minute hard time limit on matches, i used to enjoy winning 1v8s with p47s when you had plenty of time to set up each target 1 by 1

[@gretathunderer5596]

The largest problem is the design of Air RB. If one team side-climbs the enemy team wins on ticket bleed because of how influential ground pounding is. This incentivizes the low altitude furballs that dominate the Air RB meta and heavily favors the planes with good low altitude performance.

[@kelvinanjos]

this thumbnail do be looking hella good

[@Agnus_Mason]

Me when I'm going knikkeren at the children's playground (yes I can move 20 tiles up and keep my bonk, the 6-year old with the dorrel did not see that coming)

[@johnmosley9376]

I have no idea what you're talking about. knikkeren? bonk? dorrel?

[@Agnus_Mason]

@@johnmosley9376 just like uncle I'm going to give you one tip: I'm from the country where 130 meters is a mountain

[@Registered_Simp]

Played this thing right before the changes at 5.0 and it felt like a monster when spaded. Held 29-25m/s climb rate from the deck to ~5000m. For reference... that is a whole ass Griffin Spitfire's worth of climb rate... now at 4.7 with more speed than practically anything it faces. This thing being able to face 3.7's is just criminal 💀

[@greenpepperant]

the bearcat’s 1st super charger gear works best on high ram air which means it produces more horsepower the faster it goes but only works best near absolute sea level and loses power fast any higher. It can climb at 30ms but only very near sea level and rapidly drops to 27.5ms at the first supercharger switch at 1km. It can sustain that until it’s critical alt at 3km, and continues to drop and is under 21ms at 5km. So no it does not have a whole griffon spitfires climb rate. Undertiered yes, but you’re making it sound way better than it actually is. The engine can’t sustain that speed without overheating and opening rads to cool it down produces a lot of drag.

[@Registered_Simp]

@@greenpepperant Dawg, I just leave the engine controls on auto, get to 360kmh, pitch to 20 degrees, and enjoy 31/s climb rate slowly dropping to ~25m/s at ~4,500m still holding 20 degrees. I am at 5,000m faster than almost anybody else, and have the top speed at that altitude to make up for any drop. I feel nearly untouchable in downtiers. Shit is straight busted

[@greenpepperant]

@@Registered_Simp if you insist those climb rate numbers are accurate I have nothing to add lol.

[@That1AviationEnthusiast]

RIGHT. time to sealclub with this thing until gaijin realizes their stupidity, and fixes it. (they wont)

[@тебяебатьнедолжно-ы1й]

This plane is not op or some shit. What are you talking about

[@TheRandomshite123]

The only reason the bearcat should ever go back up again is if they fix the broken flight model, IRL it's retention while not great was nowhere near as bad as it is in WT

[@semiedgv]

​@@тебяебатьнедолжно-ы1йit literally outperforms every single plane at 4.7

[@stormjet814]

@@TheRandomshite123are you sure this isn’t just because gaijin lets people pull way more g’s in game than they ever could irl

[@cheekibreeki4638]

Bro? Lmao

[@24YOA]

I'm so old I remember when this thing had M3 .50s

[@arvatas]

I immediately tried it yesterday because I too thought it was going to be absolutely nuts and didn't really get much going, I had a 3 kill game here and there and a 4 kill game, but a lot of the time I actually did nothing. It's absolutely bizarre how brutally this thing can rinse people when you can kind of isolate them and don't have to think about anything else for a moment, but the shit rudder, retention in maneuvers and especially the mouthbreather teams really don't do it any favors. You have to be quite prudent and think 2 steps ahead in one of the fastest props in the game that also can pull energy literally out of its ass if you don't want to spend half the game flying straight and doing nothing, it's a fairly odd playstyle. You can get away with maybe half the things you think you actually can. Makes me feel slightly less mentally handicapped that even someone like Defyn who's actually good says basically the same things I thought.

[@YeetrBoi]

Mr Defein whats your MEC setting for the bearcat to compensate for the overheating problems?

[@Nate_935_]

Just open your radiators and you can wep all you want

[@reinbeers5322]

If you don't want to open the radiators much, 90% prop pitch will keep it cool with a very small performance loss

[@Delantho]

@@reinbeers5322 this is my go to way for p47s and p51s, regulate with engine rpm instead of radiators.

[@deratomi]

The f8f was a plane I could always tell was really good, but I could never get it to work for me.

[@Tjecktjeck]

4.7 would have been fine with older FM where you could rip your wings instantly, but now the main weakness of pedobear is gone.

[@ephealtun]

So it's a plane with good climb rate and good top speed, compresses at high speeds, doesn't turn particularly well, doesn't have good guns and is completely dependent on BNZ gameplay. If I want to fly something fast that has good guns but mediocre turn rate, I'd use my Wyvern at a lower br instead.

[@Mcpecog]

Oh hey my 3:35 am spree payed off!

[@meanman6992]

I love the F8, I love the firepower of the gun pods…. I hate the way it flys with the gun pods though. 😢 they turn it into better P47😅?

[@Swat_Dennis]

The flaps also never break, so that’s another plus

[@jessematthews6861]

what frustrates me about these changes, is this thing used to kick ass back in the day at its original battle rating. "look how they massacred my boy."

[@Football_mania_ICON]

good video like always. Could you try the Italian Macchi C.202 or her sister the Macchi C.205 (Serie 1 or Serie 3 or even the Macchi C.205N Orione)?? Thanks a lot mate. Have a nice Day.☺☺

[@polandminigaming2456]

Now the Me262 A-1/U4!

[@CupOfCoffeeH2]

Have you thought of streaming on twitch? I would love to watch some streams!

[@Blitzcreeper239]

3:09 Another one bytes the dust

[@noname117spore]

I mean I got a kill on one of these with an SU-100P yesterday so given that's a 6.3 maybe I'd agree it's balanced where it's at?

[@FooperNooper]

would be cool to see a replay angle to see whether or not the damage you assume you did is actually the case like with the 109 at the end

[@DEFYN]

Good idea actually

[@trikooo]

yoooo no way i was in a game with defyn 12:36 (and yes i'm fucking stupid lmao)

[@MySoulReader]

can u make a key bind guide for top tier? its a lot of things i need to click and idk how u do these manuvers that u often do with just one hand

[@chompiethetortoise5972]

What MEC settings do you use for the bearcat?

[@J4ckmaestro]

I mean considering that Gaijin put the spitfires at 6.7 so they can face jets (even the la200 lmao) this isn't really too surprising

[@silence3994]

i remember when this thing was a UFO

[@flynntaggart8549]

is there some reason why gaijin doesn't rework the instructor or whatever to take into account bad rudders? like it seems it assumes a certain amount of rudder authority when it tries to maneuver the plane to point at your crosshair, but that just doesn't work on planes with rudders like this where it ought to use the ailerons more instead

[@angryburg]

Taiwanese F-5A is 10.7 with AIM-9P now. Any chance for a video on it?

[@hessifiedlmao]

Damn defyn uploading early in the morning is not on my bingo card

[@kermit_thefrog029]

He always posts at the same time

[@SuperTrb0]

The Bearcat is probably the most accurate aircraft in WT. Not that the FM is accurate but because it’s on paper performance doesn’t match its actual in air performance.

[@HumphreyHorsehead]

Hey Defyn, in your search for the worst plane you've been focused on bombers and stuff that really shouldnt be used as a fighter, and I get it. However I want to suggest the C.R. 714. Its supposed to be a fighter and it's still terrible at it. It's at 1.3 but its a mono-wing so it cannot out maneuver the biplanes it faces, and its 4 7.5mm MAC French MGs shoot very fast but do little more than tickle the enemy planes. You can easily dump all 1200 rounds into a single plane and not even get a severe damage. Surely the fact that it's meant to be a fighter and still sucks at the job should give it an edge in the worst plane race.

[@Zelectrocutica]

This thing irl is a legit superprop, one of the fastest propeller driven aircraft at the time and still today... it become one of the fastest race plane on this planet.. Still holds the record and probably forever. Why 4.7??

[@alebado8664]

Do a F8F-1B or F7F now

[@phantanhuy9444]

Bruh the Yak-3 just legit ricocheted a .50 cal round off of its fuselage 19:22

[@99redpontoons]

))))))))

[@Nate_935_]

That is because the fuselage is made of high quality Stalinium!

[@ozan1234561]

I think thats a new thing, i never saw such a thing until a few days ago and suddenly start seeing some rounds bouncing off once in like every 2 games

[@DaisiesTC]

@@ozan1234561 This has always been a thing and it used to be substantially more common lmfao. There's always a chance for a glancing shot, and also sometimes you just have desync issues (where it looks like you hit someone but the server didn't pick it up. This can also be in the reverse, you've probably run into situations where someone is shooting no where near you but you still get hit).

[@ozan1234561]

@@DaisiesTC nah these bullets go into a completely different trajectory after the hit so they really just bounce off

[@giorgosdetorakis5105]

The last match was a bit of a game of throws.

[@arctan4547]

I thought the thing was pretty fine after they buffed the overheating, but 4.7 is quite ... shocking havent played ARB in ages

[@astralthunder-pzbt]

Defyn always gives me the “ nah id win Typa vibes “ cuz I’ve been watching for like 4 ish years now I think and so many of his videos and just dogfights start with him like having the worst fucking positioning in the world like the enemy is 3 lm above him and he still wins….

[@kingghidorah8106]

muh "only four guns" but people slap four more Gaijin knows and that's why they're pretending they don't

[@DzinkyDzink]

Gaijin in their infinite reasoning are using average statistics instead of median... A rookie mistake 😮

[@Cerce7]

gunpods in my opinion are very bad on the f8f

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@Cerce7 heard they make the plane a chunker but so do most gun pods

[@DaisiesTC]

@@kingghidorah8106 They are some of the worst gunpods in the game in terms of performance impact. I mean, you can kind of tell just by looking at them lmfao. I don't use gunpods on anything but at least with something like the 109's gunpods they don't add that much drag and the weight is distributed better.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@DaisiesTC yeah on f8f they're a detriment but that's mostly too because the f8f is tiny and has a weird center of gravity very forward as many of the extreme taildraggers do that have a tiny tail gear and some noticeable angle nose up when on ground.

[@RaptorRex352]

Is the F-1 any worth playing again at 10.0? Seems like a better T-2 with more missiles at a only a slightly higher br now.

[@Tataras1k]

Plays definitely better now, but still, T-2 is my choice. F-1 have alot more chances to face mig-21 bis, mig-23s with all-aspect missles, while T-2 only faces Su-25s and A-10s which is fairly easy to boom and zoom out of the air.

[@lionracingfr2256]

How is your engine not overheating at all?

[@Pioneer_DE]

Whats the difference between it and the F8F-1b, besides the guns

[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

Im not even gonna write a fanfiction today sorry guys 😔😔😔😔

[@MrChipcho]

Man. this game looks amazing when you are not always at ground level 4:10

[@masterdynamo6457]

This thing is a lower BR than the Fw 190 A-8.

[@vividinu]

do the one with the 20mms again pls defyn🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@runwei_1999]

The great performance of this plane is nicely offset by the horrible US teamwork, perfect balance achieved

[@Cj22500]

Don't worry with my skills I can bring it down to 4.3😂

[@IntrovertedN00b]

Did the me 262s get dropped down as well? Tired of fighting jets with aim 9s

[@frostedbutts4340]

Only the rare 2 gun one.

[@EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000]

Pretty sure it's just constant uptiers at that rank anyway but idk

[@PHLY_MojoGOLD]

you killed me in a ki 61 ( me )

[@spyczech]

So you still think it's undertiered 0:31 but it "makes total sense" according to title so it's not undertiered actually? I know all the war thunder people online have decided it's a criminal undertier but that doesn't mean they you gotta waffle on the middle of the fence

[@DEFYN]

The title is sarcastic Its undertiered But it makes sense its doing so badly because its quite tedious to fly

[@TrumpeterOnFire]

It's a great plane that is everything both Gaijin with short mission timers and players with zero attention span, can't stand to let shine. If everyone wants every match to be "climb straight into the furball and win or die after the first turn" then american stuff that has to be played more strategically with speed and not maneuvering too much so you don't bleed speed, is just going to lose. Gaijin is complicit with lowering match timers and trying to force quick furballs but the players make it worse than it has to be, too. American planes are great if used right but nobody wants to.

[@MOBB-111]

@ DEFYN, I've recently redid the F8F-1 performance guide if you'd like to see it and give some feedback

[@PeaceMG]

I do not understand why Gaijin is so allergic to directly buffing and nerfing aspects of planes that can't seem to perform well at their BR. You have one of the best props of the post-war period at 4.7 where it still struggles because it pisses away all its speed instantly, and the 4 .50 cals aren't amazing. Stop moving stuff down, start making mediocre planes perform better.

[@RalfG999]

Never tryed US props what are the Go tos besides the p39

[@peterjensen9468]

late P-51s, F4u's, and Sabers

[@cola-warthunder]

P47D28

[@toxicmuggle5788]

Play the Q5 Early, worse in all aspects when compared to the Mig 19 but now sitting at the same BR (9.7 Mig 19/F104 when gaijin)

[@reinni2968]

Ayit too

[@ЛёшаДвачевский]

50 mil me262 is 6.3 now. Need a new vid about it

[@pencilcase8068]

How can I fight this on a P-63A-5 or a P-39K-1. Do I actually have to worry a lot about this thing if I'm flying those

[@panzerwafflez7228]

Im pretty sure P39 can outturn the F8f in a sustained ratefight cas of the shit energy retention.

[@pencilcase8068]

@@panzerwafflez7228 alright thanks. Guess I don't have much to worry about

[@emilelerate6454]

DEFYN. Where is my hunter f1 vid.

[@obbya3767]

I was weirded out because I was playing it and between the matches it changed BR. Or maybe I didnt notice?

[@EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000]

Your game mode automatically switches between what you usually pr what you last played so if you played rb and it switched to ab it would switched br

[@obbya3767]

@@EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000 I was thinking about a switch from 5.0 ARB to 4.7 ARB. Bit yeah it's also in a weird place because it's way lower in AAB.

[@antonsis]

Was nice at 5.7. The other one would be good at 6.0

[@thisisrika]

Any tips with MEC for this aircraft im new with MEC

[@TheRandomshite123]

Swap supercharger gear on WEP at 1300m, mix to 95%, prop pitch at 100% and keep the radiators around 35% to sustain WEP

[@Tentacl]

Ugh, this will murder even more in GRB now...

[@YataTheFifteenth]

>queues up for tank battles >looks inside >planes Though a lot of CAS players in this think they could turnfight the Spitfire. So far, I've been proving them wrong.

[@Tentacl]

@@YataTheFifteenth well, stupidity is always a factor. I remember back when the french air tree was added I used a plane that is a good turn fighter but looks like a heavy fighter up to 5.3 because it could kill everyone but spits and zeros in 1 turn fights. Good times.

[@2077_cyberfrog]

What's crazy is that the 1B version with the cannons is almost 2.0 br higher with the same performance

[@jarredingersoll2772]

I dont play war thunder anymore, but how the hell is a bearcat 4.7. What the hell is going on

[@mechanought3495]

Stat cards lie. Flight model is scuffed. The speed means so little when you can't bring guns to bear when going fast. Basically all you can use the speed for is running away. A lot of US props require a "slow and methodical" approach to actually exploit their advantages, which in RB just means you lose the match before you can do anything. US planes are a bit better in sim, but the flight model of the F8F in sim is really bad. Wing-over any time you try to pull Gs, compresses like hell at speed. Great plane on paper, but really poorly implemented.

[@kristijanmedved6066]

Play f4ej adtw its 11.0 with gun lead sparrows and 4 vulcans

[@eafasdyyhgesghserg]

Play the Po-2

[@mochabear88]

gg