The Failure of JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX

[@aguyhere7945]

I wish I could self sabotage my own projects out of petty spite at work and still expect to have a career after too. The power that would give me..

[@soldierbreed]

As long as you don't make it seem like you did it on purpose you can

[@datumzinememories]

Its does make your wonder what exactly they dangled him by the toes for this career contract for movies no funding. Also if that was the case her wouldn't be the first one to make a bad movie just to fill the contract.

[@Kpheark]

It’s a shame Joker never got a sequel. I’m sure it and pacific rim would have made great franchises but oh well, I guess we’ll never know

[@jag1460]

Pacific rim did. It's Atlantic rim.

[@alexhansen2102]

There is no sequel in Ba Sing Se

[@ArbiterofTruth]

@@alexhansen2102Epstein is alive, Michael Jackson is in hiding, AND THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKED BY KUBRIC! 🤪

[@BOOGIEthefunk]

Cant wait for a dark tower movie as well

[@stefanwolf8558]

Good thing they never made a 4th Matrix film too!

[@nicholasseymour7943]

This is what happens when you make a movie out of spite

[@Jimmydreadful]

Aye you're no wrong

[@AdmiralJT]

The media was livid that people loved it and took it as a critique of the establishment regime.

[@marcusporras9571]

How so?

[@DrymouthCWW]

Or so they say. It might well be an attempt at something good. We will never know?

[@sd5371]

​​@@marcusporras9571the director has commented he hated how people positively reacted to the first movie. He didn't see how the main character resonated with people showing how disconnected the director is to how hard and broken so many people are and how Ivory Towers of Hollywood elites don't understand their paypigs. The mainstream media thought we'd have anarchy and the Lessers would rise up yada yada.

[@pat33able]

"It isn't just a bad sequel, it's a bad FILM" that line was beyond cold.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

Unusual to see a director hate the fans of his first movie so deeply that he fully deconstructs the character to spit them, but here we are. Glad it failed

[@jennifervan75]

He should never make another movie again if that's the case

[@mitsuri3096]

​@@jennifervan75they forced him to make it so he did it on purpose a bad movie

[@jennifervan75]

@@mitsuri3096 still not an excuse

[@mitsuri3096]

@@jennifervan75 I would have done the same as him and quit like he did

[@jennifervan75]

@@mitsuri3096 i would've just quit and take my art elsewhere

[@toybonniebon]

You know what did better of Harley being the manipulator while stringing along Joker? The Telltale Batman games. They did it far more better.

[@tjm11015]

JOKER: FULLY A DEUCE

[@copycooks9850]

Would have been a much better refrain for this review instead of shapoo 😂

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

😂

[@tjm11015]

@@copycooks9850 Shapoo?

[@batyote3700]

They missed a golden opportunity to name the movie: Joker 2: Bad Romance

[@ethancoster1324]

Joker 2: Joker Face.

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

Man, this bootleg was wild, shame we'll never see a real Joker sequel, but i guess it's for the best.

[@wiredinprod]

I'm glad Todd Philips was wise enough not to ruin the perfect solo movie he made, although I wouldn't mind a sequel if he were to actually make one.

[@pandosham]

Lady gaga as Harley as Authurs prison therapist manipulating him into being a more extreme Joker wouldve been a much better idea imo

[@Thegooob95]

still no musical please

[@CoopaCoop]

I love how you’ve started sharing more of your personal insights in your videos, rather than just explaining the films. Keep up the great work!

[@ParkerCS2]

I’m so glad I didn’t watch this terrible sequel. Only Joker 2019 exists and nothing else. Arthur’s story ended with him getting applause from the mob and putting on a bloody smile with his fingers.

[@wiredinprod]

I concur

[@EzE134]

Joaquin Phoenix would have been better off doing the crow remake.

[@mluisborg]

Not sexy enough

[@justinklenk]

That's an interesting idea - but I think he'd be too physically decrepit to inhabit that role. But his emaciated face is, slightly, crow-ish - maybe?

[@ju1cycrackfa1ry]

All I kept thinking about was that they jokafied the crow, but the Jared Leto joker not any of the half dozen good ones 😂

[@gcsec8811]

Nah, cause then people would've started to type cast him

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

100th like

[@Jacksonville_Phil]

I think the real Joker here is Todd Phillips. Some people want to set the world on fire just to watch it burn.

[@CheesyChez421]

Youre laughing. The forced corporate sequel flopped, and youre laughing.

[@sideshowbrowny4595]

underated comment

[@SleepySloth2705]

Todd Phillips: "I know! How about another joke, fans?" 😂

[@ojmcclanahan689]

The forced corporate sequel is even worse than the forced corporate first Joker movie. That movie was a steaming pile of hackneyed shit that WB slapped a couple DC Comics properties onto to sale it to a bigger audience. Todd Phillips has never picked up a Batman comic in his life and neither movie he made has a goddamn thing to do with THE Joker.

[@Sir_Loin_Of_Beef]

I am convinced it was made as a "fuck you" to the audience of the first one

[@jennifermoriarty2188]

i disagree. if you are schizophrenic and don't think that author is Batman's joker...it is a good movie

[@D0NU75]

I always saw The Joker as a standalone thing that barely grasps from the source, you know, like Halle Berry's Catwoman

[@SirToaster9330]

But good

[@seraphik]

at least Halle Berry's catwoman was so bad it knew it was bad, which made it a fun watch. this is so fucking pretentious and dour.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

If they wanted a story that explored his further descent into madness, maybe have the nonsensical parts (specifically the freaking musicals) last only a few seconds before quickly cutting back to reality with people watching Joker sing to himself with a combination of confusion at his actions and terror over what he's about to do next. Hell, maybe have the entire movie be a flashback with Joker describing the events to a therapist who is revealed at the end to be Arthur. A manifestation of the last remnants of his sanity. And then Joker shoots Arthur, severing all ties with his former self once and for all. The true birth of the Clown Prince of Crime.

[@kostantza1]

There's so many ways they could have taken it and it'd have been great. Harley using him, gaslighting him into a relationship for her resume. Him struggling inside his head with the Joker through nightmarish surreal sequences. Rock opera. In-universe movie about his actions supercut with the trial narrating the reality of the events to drive home media sensationalism. Him escaping to is followers and having to keep up the Joker persona so they don't turn against him while growing disillusioned with it. The movie just needed to be a little creative and commit.

[@A_Noble_Wolf]

Known Mandela Effects: - "Froot loops" - "Luke I am your father" - "Joker: Folie a Deux"

[@domotemujin7780]

I'm freaking deceased 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@antcantcook960]

Mandela effect aka misremembering something😂 its not a “phenomenon”.

[@soldierbreed]

Isn't it "no i am your father"?

[@A_Noble_Wolf]

@@soldierbreed yeah you're right, but the one I posted is the most famous case of ME

[@SolidSnake240]

Wait Froot loops was a victim of the Mandela effect? Lol I didnt realize that

[@Kascaded]

You mean Floppie À Deuce?

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

Hearing the phrase pronounced properly, it sounds like "Fooled You."

[@justinklenk]

a "Foolish Adieu" seems to be what it was...

[@Salamander676]

More like Flopper: Takin À Deuce.

[@shainewhite2781]

Todd Phillips even said that he is done making movies for DC and Warner Brothers.

[@Lalvon_Zelpharr]

He purposely made that movie bad, because he hated the fan base that was generated by the first movie He also felt responsible for the January 6 with Trump, Todd's a left wing nut job lol

[@Samsonfs]

@@Lalvon_Zelpharr "left wing nut job" while referencing a literal far right insurrection is amazing mental gymnastics

[@ItalianJew]

​@@Samsonfsif anything, it was a mostly peaceful rowdy tailgate party

[@amar9427]

Todd Phllips fumbled so hard with the 200 million dollar budget

[@Samsonfs]

@@ItalianJew "if anything" it was a literal violent insurrection driven by far right morons, MULTIPLE people died.

[@Tom_Kowalczuk]

I think we had similar move before. Last matrix was the same at least for me. Director(s) pushed to created yet another sequel and not wanting to do it at the end creating a movie which reduce previous, diminishes it.

[@alexcarpenter2465]

My first memory of the joker was mark hamill in “mask of the phantasm” it’s tough to see how far some child hood memories/iconic characters fall. Once again thank you for doing the work we can’t wait to learn! Would love to hear your take on “stardust” my personal underrated holy grail!

[@GreenFalcon926]

Not seen the movie yet, and was planning on going... until now. What a disappointment. Joker was a brilliant movie, one of the best of the 2010s. How did they manage to mess up a sequel so badly? This could have been so much more.

[@uria3679]

Probably to spite the people who didn’t take it seriously

[@edmonddantes759]

Parasite is better than Joker anyway. Also WB split the cost of the first Joker to several companies so revenue is split between them and the funniest part is that WB thought they had another success with the sequel that they fully funder the film lmao

[@wiinterflowers95]

Parasite is trash!

[@kostantza1]

They're not comparable movies. The only thing they've got in common is a theme of disenfranchisement and class resentment.

[@beclear505]

"The 2 strike up a 'bad romance'" I see what you did there 😂😂😂

[@TheTrueStygian]

Both Joaquin and Gaga were great picks for the role. And I was excited when I first heard about it. Sad to see how it came out.

[@connorwood9211]

Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Shazam and Joker. How is Suicide Squad the only one with a good sequel?

[@UchuKejiMovan]

SS wasn't a sequel. It was a remake

[@TheNightman.]

The first was just better, the remake/reboot/dumb down was just shitty

[@Lvl22Cowboy]

Wrong 😂 ​@@TheNightman.

[@Samsonfs]

It's actually crazy how bad WW2, aquaman 2 AND Shazam 2 were 😭 Warner brothers putting out some absolute SLOP

[@javon21596]

It helps if the bar is set low

[@Latham74]

Remember when Lana Wachowski made that absolute stinker of a Matrix sequel a couple of years ago, and ironically included in the film the situation with WB demanding a sequel whether she liked it or not? I'm 100% convinced that the exact same thing happened to Todd Smith. Do I believe that he purposefully torpedoed the franchise just to give a big fuck you to Warner Brothers? Maybe...

[@KILLER1PIE]

I’m with you on this.

[@Noid]

Agree. That's what I'm thinking. It's the same ordeal with Freddy Got Fingered.

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

They took Joaquin Phoenix's oscar winning performance of Taxi Driver in clown make-up and drove it into the ground.

[@kostantza1]

His performance was so good, I wish now it was used by a better director. It was Schrader/Cronenberg stuff.

[@tkkumarr]

I think T Philips went to Diddy's party after the first movie.

[@drez0352]

What happened to joker being a gangster shooting killing people. Manipulating the crime underworld and robbing banks, blowing shit up, provoking Batman and Gotham PD

[@Alijamaru]

This was never that type of Joker even in the first movie except for the killings

[@masterzombie161]

@@Alijamaruand to be fair those killings had a purpose, one was self defense, the other was out of spite because he originally was gonna shoot himself on stage but Arthur got mad at Murray for making fun of him so he shot him.

[@josh6153]

People like you absolutely stun me. How did you think batman was going to turn up when he's a child in the first film? 😂

[@blackfeathers2166]

Exactly what should have happened. Wanting that for Arthur is the problem. Joker 1 and specially 2 deconstructed that, you were given hard cold reality and and you hate it. Joker 1 was a prequel to thos, it was no standalone film. You haven't gotten a speck of sympathy for arthur, all you wanted was delirious, cathartic fantasy, just like Harley, you wanted chaos and destruction, these new Joker movies NEVER at any point praised or glorified that. Joker 2 came to a close the way it should have been.

[@SaurianStudios1207]

While I like the first movie a lot, even with the controversies, this movie was not only inferior to the first film, but it is questionable what exactly this film was trying to say, and how it subverted the expectations of the first film, but not in a good way. The musical elements were some of the biggest issues for me, as well as the stagnant plot and meaningless chemistry that didn’t carry the story anywhere, sucking out the dreary, psychological, dystopian, and emotional drama of the first film with a “fuck it, let’s make a musical courtroom drama with Joker and Harley Quinn that will piss of the fans!”

[@longhairgetinthere]

"foolish a poo"...🤔 Did I hear that right???😂. The adlibs are 🔥!!! Thank you for the review Nyatt 🤗

[@redt3788]

You know I remember this one time this one person I can't remember who once explained that the stairs scene that he was dancing down from was their theory in his descent into madness

[@oiyile1971]

Diddy Freak Off🗣🗣‼‼

[@liaml.e.5964]

This reeks of insecure corporate shame...

[@anubusx]

Please explore The Ancient Enemy from The Phantoms.

[@uria3679]

The one thing we can learn from this is that the director isn’t capable of making a sequel

[@rickyterheege20duitseherde36]

Didnt he butcher hangover also? Some people are just a 1 trick pony

[@Lalvon_Zelpharr]

Todd Phillips is an idiot, In my opinion

[@Nuggett1337]

Maybe only your pony, this movie was bs​@@rickyterheege20duitseherde36

[@blackfeathers2166]

Well... he made it and... it was perfect, if you say it corrupted what was presented in the first movie you REALLY REALLY didn't understand the first movie and much much less the second

[@Nuggett1337]

@blackfeathers2166 both had nothing to do with "Joker" it's just a fan made movie that got flopped on a dancing sequel

[@Kuweiyo]

Not the diddy joke. Lmfao😂😂😂😂😂

[@jackdorseysdisappointedfather]

Now the director is trying to tell everyone the movie "was never about toxic fans". Genuinely, do you believe him???😑🤦‍♂️

[@pedroibarra431]

I feel like every single review I have seen about this movie does prove a great point the second movie makes, no one actually cares about Arthur, they just want to see Joker doing shit, and he actually does the right thing, after the scene with Puddles and his sa by the guards, everyone abandons him, including the audience. That’s the point I think this movie is making

[@bryh555]

No we all got what the movie was trying to do. They practically outright say it in the movie. But it's executed awfully. Theres way better movies that play with the same themes. This one was just done poorly and lazily.

[@brandonjones8366]

Honestly, I feel like I am one of the (very few) who actually liked this movie, lol.

[@seliamila1005]

shousldn't have called and marketed the movie as joker from DC universe then, hell arthur can still failed up to being the joker but it should have been executed better

[@Disco_Biscuit_]

I saw the first film as a poor mash up of taxi driver and the king of comedy, so tbh I thought joker 2 was a watchable and at times enjoyable film

[@psprinny5348]

What happened to Phoenix being picky about his scripts? Did he not somewhat expect this to tank or was the money too good?

[@amharbinger]

And I thought Wonder Woman's sequel was bad.

[@Xehanort10]

6:18 Another problem is that it did the same thing the first Suicide Squad did portraying Joker and Harley's relationship as romantic when it's not.

[@rjg7112]

Worst adaptation of a comic book character ever. Part musical, part courtroom drama that reviews the events of the previous movie, and totally boring. Movie is stuck at the end of the previous film, and doesn't move story of Arthur forward. No need to drag this one out for 2 hours and 18 minutes either. Painful to sit through. If you're going to do a sequel, then have Joker and Harley break out of Arkham and do comic villain things. Fans don't want to see Arthur disown is Joker persona. A lost opportunity is Folly.

[@VersusArdua]

Im glad people arent afraid to point and laugh at this one. It really puts into perspective the juxtaposition between the two films. If Joker was left alone it would stand as a strong, generally acclaimed title, but now its always going to be hindered by the existence of this blatant cash grab banking on the lighting in a bottle success of the original.

[@Xehanort10]

The defences I've seen for this are the same pretentious ones Zack Snyder's fans use for his movies. The "It was actually really deep. You just didn't get it" shit. And there's the people who believed the ones doing scaremongering about the 1st film saying it would cause mass shootings which it never did. They're basically claiming Arthur was killed off in this to stop real life shootings that never happened.

[@blackfeathers2166]

Well... it isn't about shootings... Big strawman fallacy right there, bit yeah, both movies were great and yeah... "-You wouldn't get it... 🚬"

[@Xehanort10]

@@blackfeathers2166 The 2nd film is just a random collection of musical numbers so they can say "Look. We have Lady Gaga in this." Nothing to get.

[@djocharablaikan8601]

Jews are scared of anything that touches the todays issues with a ten foot pole

[@robertagu5533]

One the few obvious bad signs is easily avoided continuity issues. We've seen that Gaga can play some seriously decent roles before... Harley is SUPPOSED to start as ORIGINALLY Jokers Therapist/Evaluator an it shoulda been a mix of HER downfall into mental instability an becoming the Legendary Harley Quinn former shrink gone off deep end herself WHILE continuing his maniacal epic... BUT what was easy enough few decades ago is too much to ask of Modern Hollywood these days.. cuz not like its their reason for being or anything

[@kostantza1]

I'm not one for conspiracies, but at this point I'm convinced they're determined to never have a woman being anything other than a girlboss, and they considered Harley problematic for being manipulated and falling into an abusive relationship. Like it doesn't happen irl as well. Girlbosses make for trite stories, real people are way more interesting.

[@R.Kardos]

Even movies get Humiliation Rituals these days.

[@jamessimon3433]

The sequence where aurthur went on the murray show was really something.

[@QuangHoang-ps3mm]

I'm screenshotted the scene with all the "news" that praise the film to avoid their garbage forvever.

[@mcgoo136]

Heh “bad romance”, Lady Gaga, I see what you did there

[@frischmarionette]

It’s brilliant!!! Everything must go!

[@Demigod_3scrub]

I've only seen the 1st Joker film once , but ive seen the dark knight countless times..

[@nocturne311]

The placement of that MIB clip is savage.

[@Samwellgaming514]

from what it looks like it was Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix who wanted the sequel

[@sd5371]

The sequel was greenlit by the studio because the director wanted to "correct" his mistake of making the villain a hero for the struggling masses. ... Because seeing the bitter reality of how following the rules can fail you more than breaking them....

[@son_of_stan]

Joachim Phoenix is a disappointing hair lipped reminder of what could have been if his brother had lived.

[@kostantza1]

@@son_of_stan That's....profoundly mean-spirited. I mean, the man has issues galore and I don't think he's got a full hold of himself to make the best creative decisions, but he's a talented actor and hasn't done anything truly bad outside of movie-making. Both he and his brother were done supremely dirty, and it's clear he's never gotten over it.

[@Thegooob95]

@@son_of_stan chill bruh

[@BradleyThomas-oc8nm]

I'm a film fanatic. There's not many films I wouldn't happily watch again and again. I can 100% say I will never re-watch this film. I honestly could have forgiven everything else if Joker had stayed true to himself. Harley sets the car bomb to free him. Setting up a 3rd and final film where they could've, by all means, delved deeper into his confliction about the whole joker persona and kill him off at the end, maybe by Harley herself

[@Ryan_McGee]

Joker did not need a sequel.

[@frmm123]

I was desperate for a great follow-up to Joker. This is such a great video justifying how my hopes weren't fulfilled. Ah well, I still have yet to see Terrifier 3.

[@Avabees]

Is lady gagas harley really that much different from the original than Joaquin is?

[@KennMila]

So wait, Harley meets him as a patient in Arkham and is not his psychiatrist? That's wild. That's like, one of the most interesting parts of her character.

[@askers81]

she does have a degree in the movie

[@jennifermoriarty2188]

and he is not the joker silly billy

[@evolancer211]

How do we know this movie wasn't meant to be a flop?

[@SpinTheWords]

Just like a hurricane during election season.

[@askers81]

That's what I've been saying. He did what the Joker would have done, a sick joke that makes people angry and causes outrage.

[@Frenchy_kudu]

The diddy freak off scene is hella funny when u sau tha im laughin as hell 😂😂 Btw love ur video❤

[@Jose-ht2lw]

So much potential lost! Could of easily made the 2nd joker building his criminal empire with his henchman, even introduce a new villain. 😔

[@sebastianalegria3401]

To my surprise, Joker 2 was a disaster when this came out at cinemas, then I really felt disappointed about the film as I didn't expect to see a musical. As a result, Joker didn't deserve a sequel.

[@BradleyThomas-oc8nm]

Officer Jackie only beat him once Joker made a quip about the guards live on tv. There was no beatings before that. He slapped him around the back of the head once after arthur patted him on the back. Basically reminding him that there's still a line he shouldn't cross. Otherwise, he was actually quite friendly with him

[@FishGuyDudeBroski]

Joker was one of my favorite comic book movies because of how well it told a story, Joaquin Phoenix melted into the role and gave a unique and breathtaking performance. Its ties to the universe of batman were subtle and clever but not too on the nose or obvious. Joker 2 had one of theese things. I hate you todd Phillips

[@zaxx]

The behind the scenes drama in this film are going to be way more entertaining than the movie.

[@docsays]

Im so disappointed. This should have been a simple slam dunk. -Only double the budget at $100 mill max - focus on him escaping arkum asylum - his rise to the head of crime in gotham - NO music! Easy $7-800 mill 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@flyflashydude]

It’s funny how you expected Arthur F. To rise to the head of crime as if he had this mob boss mentality to begin with. Y’all are truly…something special. You should make the film you wanted yourself….

[@TheNightman.]

@@flyflashydude Yeah you should never, ever speak again kid, you are too braindead to be here

[@robertagu5533]

​@@flyflashydudeyou DO understand there's quite a bit of evidence, least one of his versions, since has never either been confirmed nor denied, may very likely being doing his psycho. Criminal Clown antics DELIBERATELY an he's less psychotic an closer to some sorta sociopathic genius Mob boss. In all mediums he's LITERALLY a Clown themed Mob leader you DO an have noticed right... from the cartoons to movies.. you DONT think they simply went an follow him outta the wood work. How do you think in the old shows, old cartoons an movies he's ALREADY got these seemingly huge Criminal armies an is regarded as some kinda Crime Legend. So post origin movies like this that actually IS the next step. It'd be just making it good that current Hollywood an those that make it have developed a massive issue with due to being much less, if at all, bout their trade an sometimes entirely about wokeness an PC this or ideological that. None of which has ANY place in this sorta environment... if they want successful mediums that rake in money

[@docsays]

@@flyflashydude - i would, but im not a film maker 🙄

[@flyflashydude]

@@docsays exactly.

[@TacticalReaper56]

This is like a reverse Bioshock infinite. With the dlcs the head writer burned all paths to using the world/story again. Rumor goes the guy wanted to go back to Rapture, the orginal first 2 games City. Studio says no, so he deconstructs and makes and polar opposite version of Rapture. Then wraps the bow up with Elizabeth as the ribbion closing all story points for Bioshock.

[@RyanLesnerhatesneebsgaming]

Why didn't the Trailer tell the viewer that the movie was a MUSICAL? It seemed that they made a court room drama. But noticed that the test audience who was full of people with ADD was falling asleep. So They decided to include a flashy musical every ten minutes to keep the audience awake. During the entire movie Harley Quinn doesn't act like her animated counter part. In the standard animated version of batman. If joker got arrested Harley would explode something and cause jokers escape. But in this movie she kind of appears to leach off of Jokers fame and nothing more. I was shocked that the court room explosion wasn't her. I also wondered why the joker didn't allow his followers to save him. If you want to put out another cash grab let him escaped and be captured in the next move.

[@JiiWoon]

"How about another joke Murray ?"

[@godspeedforce9371]

Now, we need a DCU Batman and Joker

[@Cave_Monkeys]

😂😂😂😂

[@Samsonfs]

Alan ritchson could be such a good batman, pretty sure he wants to do it.

[@jonah5548]

No​@@Samsonfs

[@fitnessfreak7851]

A prime example that just because the first film made a ton of money, it doesn’t mean that it should get a sequel. Biggest fault is turning it into a musical and away of the things that made the first film so great. I don’t blame Phoenix or Gaga for this film…I lay it squarely on the director and the writers.

[@bintagmina3755]

It's completely exaggerated that the movie was rated so poorly. It really wasn't anywhere near that bad. What bothered me the most was that I didn't find any of the songs really touching. None of these songs will end up on my playlist. Notes with spoiler alert - I would have loved it if Lee had looked at Arthur incredulously when he asked why she was being released from the hospital and said: because I'm not crazy - it would have been cooler if Lee only had her lipstick to paint Joker's grin instead of his full clown mask - the scene in which Arthur is led away from Lee and Arthur turns around and grins again: this grin would have fit better with his singing before the 1st court hearing (during the song keep smiling at about minute 53:00) I think it would have been almost perfectly placed here - the acting of Mr. Puddles was brilliant - the sex between Lee and Arthur reminded me of the rape scene from "the hills have eyes" - Why wasn't Lee really a psychopath who killed her parents? - Arthur was like a dying patient throughout the movie, his death at the end was a gift to him, not a heinous act - the new "Joker" at the end has potential and I liked the mean factor a hundred times better than Arthur

[@ThaiLifeChronicles]

I liked FOLIE À DEUX, I think it was a good musical.

[@elonmust8859]

Why would Phillips and phoenix go from the success of joker to this they knew what they were doing. I don't think it was to just piss the fans off but it worked..

[@AncestorEmpire1]

And thus continues the tradition of Warner Bros messing up their franchises, again. And blaming the director? How original, WB. You’ve been doing that to Zack Snyder over the past 10 years. How’s that going for ya?

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

i haven’t seen this, but would the movie have been tolerable or even good had they not chosen to make it something of a musical? or is it much deeper than this?

[@nathanielrego]

I loved the joker chapter 2 when I recently saw it. Also, can you do your next video on immaculate (2024), the first omen (2024), or even Batman Arkham Knight (2015) (video game)? Either one if those next will do

[@christaylor7916]

18:01 after seeing that shot of her, I finally realize who lady Gaga reminds me of. Scarlett Johansson!

[@dastoryteller8472]

Quite unfortunate that studios still aren't gonna learn from this...

[@Wolf3722]

Maybe I like the sequel more than others (even though I still don't think it's good) because The Joker shouldn't have an origin story in the first place and shouldn't be sympathized.

[@spookshow6999]

Every American related to the character. This is how we feel in America today. That's the real truth.

[@oiyile1971]

😊Happy to watch your breakdown. Thank you!

[@garykubodera9528]

I was very disappointed watching this movie recently.. it was trying to hard to be a musical instead of a sequel to the first joker move.. not worth the price for the tickets...😔

[@christianbrewster2571]

Please do Mr.Nobody!!!

[@mrgrandi]

Movie makers need to stop doing this! They ruining our favorite comic book characters 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@cookieanddabutt2843]

I think that's the point. They'll make more money with a bad, cheap, and defective product. Manipulating your loyalty. Works for everytime.

[@JonDoe-uq1mk]

@@cookieanddabutt2843 I see your point It seems like making outrage sells more than make making a good product, otherwise they wouldn't do it so often

[@helatard4272]

Avocado was two steps ahead, this movie was two steps behind…

[@jackburton9235]

Imagine costing a studio hundreds of millions of dollars and still keeping your job.

[@agent95_]

I'm not sure how i feel about Matrix Resurrections catching that stray... just because you don't like a mirror turned on yourself doesn't mean the movie was bad.

[@Horrormaster13]

Joker 2 is probably gonna end up like Star Wars: The Last Jedi in a couple of years when people reevaluate it. I don't think either are good movies. They both try to subvert audience expectations which is commendable but the execution ends up being INCREDIBLY sloppy and unsatisfying. I know what both films were going for and I respect the heck out of them in that regard, but they both fumbled it hard by doing stupid and unnecessary things that muddle what they were trying to do.

[@wolfthornhawkridge5705]

Sounds like I can wait for streaming

[@Sickles197]

First movie reflected society and 2 is speaking down to society

[@rickyperalta9657]

If they wanted to continue so bad, why not just make this joker basically a canon event for batman and many of the other villains and introduce Harley as a way of keeping the joker legacy.

[@vinny142]

The first movie was "Falling Down" but with the joker instead of a businessman. Different from the slop that was being made, but not original by any means.

[@Primal-Pr1me]

Does anyone kow what the guards did with him in the shower? Did they beat him up or even worse?

[@GaTraCos]

It's implied they graped him

[@Squashylemon]

We wanted joker and batman or more information on how joker became joker.... not whatever this was.