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“Tolkien believed that the fairytale genre was for everyone,” says Eric Metaxas’s guest, Dr. Holly Ordway, Cardinal Francis George Professor of Faith and Culture at the Word on Fire Institute, editor for the Journal of Inklings Studies, and J.R.R. Tolkien expert. This delightful conversation unearths many amazing details and covers topics like how Tolkien came to faith, the important friendship with C.S. Lewis, his ambitions to be a poet, the “Christianness” of the Lord of the Rings saga, Leaf by Niggle, and much more.