The Fall of a Wrestling Legend - Rulon Gardner vs. Aleksandr Karelin!

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American wrestler Rulon Gardner shocks Russian wrestling Legend Aleksandr Karelin to win gold at Sydney 2000. It was Karelin first defeat in 13 years!
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[@Olympics]

You can watch the full documentary here: oly.ch/3weM6hI

[@accent1666]

If you don't mind But I would really love to see if this could upload about the entire Opening Ceremony of the 1984 Olympic Games

[@dittmannrudolfrohr2149]

The Fall?

[@wrestling.iran.]

​tt444tt44t45

[@k24hybrid]

What a cool docu!! Thanks!!

[@MrGuitars8]

IT wasn't a fall , just a Great Day for one of them that's all . I don't think he could have done it twice many people don't realize How Dominant Karelin was In Wrestling at the HIGHEST LEVEL .

[@angelomar8577]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jerry-yr1en]

@@angelomar8577 Alexandr Karelin 887-2 the king of wrestling

[@Jerry-yr1en]

@user-pg4jg5eh8k tell that to Jon jones and everyone in the UFC

[@KeysLer88]

@@Jerry-yr1en xd karelin was more dominant in wrestling than jones in ufc is

[@hl954]

he's juiced.

[@ChadKlingensmith]

people who have never trained in wrestling don't have the slightest clue how insanely difficult this sport really is.

[@markok7405]

Completely agree. I train Jiu-Jitsu and found wrestling boring. Once our coach started teaching us more wrestling, I developed respect and love for it.

[@magicmulder]

Maybe but it's still super boring to watch, and if the fight is decided by "someone opened his grip", that's just sad. That makes Sumo look like a top scripted WWE match in comparison.

[@joshicortez1537]

100%

[@patrickmurphy5842]

go to Thailand and train in a Thai boxing gym. Wrestling is not the only tough sport.

[@joshicortez1537]

@@patrickmurphy5842 lol he never said it was.

[@judowrestlerka]

I watched this. It was a simple mistake by The Experiment that lost him the match. Rules changed and stated that the first to unlock their hands gave up a point. He unlocked his hands. But Gardner did his job and played HARD.

[@paulgoodman2995]

Thatļ's ah bit odd if he didn'tget notice of the change from manager or someone in charge .

[@judowrestlerka]

@@paulgoodman2995 everyone knew about it. He just forgot, had a lapse of memory at the worst time. He'd been wrestling under the previous rule his whole career. Sometimes muscle memory and engraved training aren't your best friend.

[@nicolaisb2]

@@judowrestlerka thanks for the info. Now i understand what happened

[@scottrackley4457]

@@judowrestlerka Yes, but anyone but Rulon on that day would have still lost

[@petrabraham9512]

@@judowrestlerka thanks for the clarification.

[@morton26]

Karelin got ripped by the stupid rules, he lost without losing a point.

[@Zuxiasunicorn]

The fact is he made a mistake.

[@elizastonereliza3545]

@@Zuxiasunicorn He ran out time .

[@nanalcd5628]

If it is a rule, it is a rule of the game. You are stupid to say it is a stupid rule. Both are the best in the world.

[@walterf6993]

Karelin couldn't handle the continual leaning weight of Rulan. He got worn down. Time catches up to everyone, even the great ones.

[@morton26]

@@walterf6993 he did not lose a point... but he lost the match.

[@mils3318]

Legendary Karelin! Greetings from Serbia!

[@xavior1645]

Karelin was Russian monster even after defeat by just a point he is far better than any wrestlers of the world

[@dallinlittlefield4350]

That's not how it works. He's not better than any wrestlers of the world. He's not better than Rulon Gardner. He lost to him. You're better if you win.

[@achilleskangabam629]

@@dallinlittlefield4350 your comment is not logical...one match can't decide who is the best

[@David-gk9lk]

@@dallinlittlefield4350 Karelin lost to gardner due to a technicality. He unlocked his hands or something and gardner won because of that.

[@monaguevarra5606]

@@achilleskangabam629 then what's the point of a match if not to see who's better than the other? Bruh

[@r------]

What do you know Indian

[@agrajmishra6128]

Karelin the legend ...love from india

[@alexeyroldugin8201]

So he beat the greatest greco-roman wrestler of all time by Karelin’s scoring a questionable point against himself?

[@aesthetic3189]

Rules are rules. Karelin couldnt beat Gardner, didnt score a point by himself.

[@2champe]

17:20

[@2champe]

17:20

[@widciyamck8677]

salty ruzky dog stop yapping lmao 😂😂

[@lexsoft3969]

At this Olympic, two Alexander The Greats were beaten : This one and Alexander Popov in men's 50m and 100m freestyle. Karelin was a friend of Popov.

[@manishmalviya1620]

Fan of aleksandr karelin from 🇮🇳

[@brendencastle6896]

Fan of the Giant Killer (Gardner) 🇧🇳

[@hiddenbek468]

Cool idea

[@MuchoNoBueno]

I think everyone is.They are both great wrestlers.When Cornfed American meets Russian Natty🤒

[@praveshmaharaj4387]

@@brendencastle6896 he beat Rulon Gardner 6-0 in 1997 , Garnder won on a techincality plus garnder was never great after this while Alexander has far more medals and wins .

[@moominpic]

@@praveshmaharaj4387 He won the World. The problem was that next Olympics everyone was training to beat him.

[@huiovo]

Karelin the legend ...

[@sonatine3266]

He won against Gardner before. Gardner was able to finally beat him when Karelin was at the end of his career. Where is this a "fall"? He is the most succesful wrestler in the history of this sport... 887-2 record. 3x Olympic Champion, 9x World Champion, 12x Euro Champion. There is no "fall of a legend" here.

[@chaoticdays]

10:08 the expression of the lady is the same as that of the guy in the crowd who reacted to the end of Undertaker's streak 14 years later. lol

[@faouzijouili409]

Gardner deasapeared as quick as he appeared. Karel une will stay forever as the best and strongest wrestler for all time !!!

[@rw8185]

Pretty much, he did however win a a gold at the WC in 2001 too.

[@k24hybrid]

He didn't just disappeared. Please watch the documentary about him. It's on the pinned comment (first comment) on this video. 👍 Let us know after you watch it please 👍.

[@alduroysinguante8167]

he still won the gold so what's your point ?

[@Myname-l3h]

@@alduroysinguante8167the point is, that Karelin lost to made up rule of olympics, that was accepted for this particular tournament

[@benadams1661]

Imagine being in shape and weighing almost 300 lbs 😲

[@andrewokamoto]

The year of the stupid rule change that Rulon Gardner took advantage of. Luckiest gold medal of all time.

[@leonardovelasquez7556]

Wow i didnt know about that

[@k24hybrid]

There's more to it than just luck. Please watch the documentary about him. It's on the pinned comment (first comment) on this video. 👍 Let us know after you watch it please 👍.

[@Quadzilla99]

The Russian guy was a famed steroid cheat

[@MrGenexxx]

Most american medals are like that. Also it's not luck. It's cheating.

[@ВиталийФедоренко-н7т]

медаль подлости и лжи

[@Goat94417]

Karelin is not human.beast.his power and training unmatchable

[@corbinchristian7915]

Rulon is truly a great guy, he came and spoke to my football team out his life and he is truly an inspiration

[@ИльяДмитриев-ц4ч]

If Rulon was truly great, he can shake hand with Karelin and show his respect to veteran. But not, he just to proud of himself

[@seguileonde]

thanks for uploading this and for the full documentary

[@halneufmille]

KZbin algorithm: Let me introduce you to wrestling where you win a gold medal by not letting anything happen.

[@briantneary2248]

I remember watching this live when I was 13. He was a hero after this. It doesn't get looked back on enough. Truly, the upset of a lifetime

[@chcknpie04]

People do not give Rulon the props he deserves. Everybody already knows Karelin is a legend.

[@pinedelgado4743]

But Karelin FELL because Rulon Gardner BEAT him and that's all that matters. :)

[@otomackena7610]

lying there like a dead cow ,not trying to score is how he beat him n of course thanks to new rules. Also he was never penalised for passivity despite several warnings.

[@nanalcd5628]

Yes, we know it, but he lost this game.

[@jonathon8856]

Rulon won because they changed the rules that year. Dude got a bronze the following year and never accomplished anything else. Karelin changed his grip and that's what cost him a flawless career. Rulon didn't win by his own merit...

[@ΔημήτρηςΓεωργουλας-ξ7ε]

Ο αρικανοςχωρις να κάνει τίποτε κέρδισε τον αγώνα

[@pascualruymoreno]

Rulon was a younger wrestler making a name on a Legend like Karelin, but not close to compare with the Russian legend who was a real GOAT. The greatest up set was not as great in my view.

[@TheMjl31]

🇺🇸

[@keisi1574]

@@TheMjl31 🤡

[@omz6929]

But he beat him lmao

[@ДенисИваньков-з1в]

@@omz6929 да это надо признать. И Рулон был очень хорошо готов, очень свеж и держал темп. Карелин выглядел подуставшим, и не смог оторвать Рулона от ковра. В начале пока был свеж пошёл на коронный приём а не на накат . А Рулон не выдохся и несмотря на атаки Карелина смог устоять,а уж силы и опыта у Карелина вагон. Рулон был очень очень свеж

[@thatguy5779]

@@omz6929Ken Norton beat Ali but isn’t greater

[@dimentro1234]

In 1997 World Championship Karelin defeat Gardner 6-0 but time and injuries did not allow Karelin to win in Sydney and if we talk about the rules they are the same for everyone

[@egieskes769]

I dont know the wrestling rules can you explain why karelin lost a point? Because i dont see it haha

[@Phobos123]

@@egieskes769 So, since Karelin was dominating, Americans specifically lobbied a rule, that after a draw, both wrestler should take a grip around each other and try to score a point, first who breaks a grip, awards 1 point to his adversary (in this case Gardner). Rule was specifically created only for this Olympics, for a dead cow Gardner and too fat to be held close. Plus, after 20+ years, it's pretty hard to adjust + rule was announced too late. After this Olympics, this rule got pulled off.

[@petrabraham9512]

@@Phobos123 thanks for clarification

[@dionysus9481]

@@Phobos123I’m an Aussie and we’re not as big into wrestling but explain to me how that has anything to do with Karelin not scoring either? While gardner gained a point in what is obviously controversial but all karelin had to do was score a point himself to even the match

[@DameElkulo]

Point wasn't scored against Karelin.

[@juangonzales9335]

Alexandr Karelin is widely considered the best Greco-Roman wrestler of all time .Three gold medals at the olimpics(1988,1992,1996),887 consecutive wins .Leave your PATRIOTISM aside !

[@Tom-V]

Didn't Karelin have multiple matches the same day? Where as his opponent had plenty of time to rest?

[@hardikgupta5730]

Salute from India to this legend .🙏🙏

[@Leo-qd7ih]

Winning silver Olympic medal after 3 gold medals and 2 losses out of 800+ bouts called fall?

[@mpooul2192]

How can you entitled it "the Fall"? He became a legend because of all of his achievements and that never will change. I would expect something less cynic by your channel

[@pinedelgado4743]

Thank you much for posting!!! :) :) :) :)

[@CasualCommenter1892]

Loss because of a rule change and being to fat to be picked up is not really a flex

[@VikasKumar-xp1ud]

Karelin greatest wrestler of all time

[@Phobos123]

It's a funny thing putting Rulon's name first

[@Deepaklibra1984]

Fan of the Russian Bear Mr Aleksandr Karelin from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@dionysus9481]

I keep seeing everybody saying that rulon gained a point in a controversial manner.. the point is all Karelin had to do was gain a point himself to even the match… he failed to do that and lost. That to me is why rulon won

[@moominpic]

I believe Karelin also had an important win due to rule changes in his own early career.

[@tarheelking2515]

14:52 this is the upset of the century

[@BhabaniSankar-mr4bx]

A Random Russian guy who made Olympics change their rules💀

[@ZlokayaKuzdra]

Alexander Karelin is the best!!!!

[@miguelsalastuto2770]

wow, Alexander Karelin si que es un titan. los gringos gritaron de alegría cuando lo vencieron, vencerlos, nunca les había pasado, y no volvió a pasar claro jajajajaja

[@barsdurmus8369]

Rulon Olimpiyat Şampiyonu olduktan sonra. Kayak motoruyla ormanda kaybolmuş. -20 derecede 2 gün sonra bulunmuş. Bir ayak parmağını kaybetmiş. Bir dönem kafes dövüşçüsü olmak istemiş annesinin ben oğlumu başka insanları incitsin diye büyütmedim demesiyle vazgeçip son birkez daha olimpiyata katılmak için büyük bir özveriyle çalışmış. Her ne kadar 2 olimpiyat mücadelesinde altın madalya istesede ayağındaki probleme rağmen bronz madalya kazanmış saygıyı hak eden bir efsanedir.

[@kasrkin2002]

I don't know much about wrestling, but just as karelin broke his grip, it seemed Gardner did also, why was Karelin punished and gardner not?

[@JimB73C]

Karelin broke first !

[@exsashank2]

Perhaps the most BS match I've seen in my entire life (no exaggeration). Karelin was given 2 prior matches that same day, and Gardner got none. Even disregarding this, they gave Gardner a point for nothing more than Karelin changing his grip. Perhaps the most senseless rule in sports history - they had literally made this rule up a few hours prior to this match. After the match, they changed the rule back. While you can argue Karelin was unable to perform his signature lift on Gardner, Gardner was also unable to do anything to Karelin either. And P.S - I'm American, I'm just stating reality like it is. Gardner did not deserve a win at all here.

[@Ja-qi7mu]

Why did they make Karelin fight 3 times on this day, but not his final opponent? I think they changed the rule a few months before olympics, not a few hours before the match?

[@skeeterbomb2512]

Karelin can't score vs Rulon. O points is not going to get it done. Big props to Rulon.

[@exsashank2]

@@skeeterbomb2512 Wouldn't that be Rulon's score as well?

[@justthomas2488]

@@exsashank2 keep complaining 21 years later

[@umarlatif4251]

100%

[@petrabraham9512]

How is the result supposed to make sense? Gardner would never stand a chance against Karelin without the new rule. Karelin is among the finest products of natural selection!

[@МаратЖайсанбаев-ы7ц]

Засудили Карелина!!!! И где теперь этот Рулон Гарднер!!!!! Не слышно!!! 🥰🥰🥰

[@AyushmanSahu-m6h]

King karelin.....love from India

[@playwall1857]

Gardener evaded karelin's patented reverse lift. That's worth the gold medal. Karelin still remains a legend.

[@nanalcd5628]

Sorry, Karelin lost the gold medal. Have to accept it, buddy.

[@ashervirin9698]

@@nanalcd5628 you really can't read can you buddy?

[@ancisolivir]

They aren't in denial, they literally said Gardner demonstrated skill worthy of the gold, they just followed that by stating a fact about a legend

[@Igor-fi4oy]

Szkoda mi Karelina. Prezentował znacznie wyższy poziom od przeciwnika. Niemniej oponentowi należą się brawa za wytrwanie i wielką sprawność obrony.

[@CelticGladiator7]

Masz rację. Jednak należy podkreślić jedno słowo kluczowe - WYTRWANIE. On nie pokonał Karelina tylko po prostu przetrwał tę walkę. A Karelin popełnił błąd, co zaowocowało tą kontrowersją, jak niektórzy mówią o tym. Przypomina nam to tylko o pięknie siły i dominacji w przyrodzie, ale też o skończoności każdej potęgi; że najwięksi tytani jednak spotykali swój los i nikt nie był niepokonany (vide: Achilles mityczny i jego pięta czy Titanic, który był "niezatapialny").

[@StoianNeikov]

И Голиат, който срещна Давид

[@diosdadoapias]

We just do not know how this American Gardner prepared himself for this fight against a 3-time Olympic champion.

[@sreeragm.s4323]

Karelin the legend

[@MichG]

Karelin è stato e resterà il miglior lottatore di sempre!! ❤️

[@drstew1]

The four time Olympian Aleksandr Karelian looked defeated from the start

[@nicolaisb2]

He was robbed junior

[@kaleshksekhar2304]

Congratulations winner love in India kerala 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳😘😘

[@akshayraj7543]

For me it's a draw and Karelian is a winner for me)✨🖤🙏🇮🇳

[@Pussilover56]

German soldiers were an order of magnitude better than Russians and Americans. But they lost the war.

[@larshiggs2514]

Rulon, the dairy farm kid from Afton, Wyoming, USA beats the legendary 3 time gold medalist Russian, Karelin. Wow!! This is why I love the Olympics!

[@Polarbear17_]

@@ezenglishwith who won buddy

[@Polarbear17_]

@@ezenglishwith rulon gardner was so big he couldn’t get picked up

[@Polarbear17_]

Even your idol couldn’t do a reverse lift 🤡🤡🤡

[@jackedupbeaver-rat2387]

@@ezenglishwith both these guys had a genetic advantage when it comes to wrestling

[@smf1280]

@@ezenglishwith A win is a win.

[@СергейРяшенцев-в3ж]

Как всегда выиграли судьи! Видно же что Карелин работал активнее👌👋

[@Dirhem1168]

Winner karelin

[@reshmadeva9657]

Truly a legend.

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

The Russian is a legend.

[@grawakendream8980]

the more i look at this and learn about the game of greco roman, this wasn't a fluke, the breaking his grip in that particular sequence was really significant imo

[@Swany57]

Karelin is the GOAT. Of this there is no question. Gardner just got lucky in one moment.

[@steveo3831]

Karelian was an idiot and faded in his conditioning

[@yukalue]

Rulon came to my elementary school after this win

[@CaptCanuck4444]

What a joke. Karelin lost, technically. Gardner was given the win not because he did anything, but because his opponent made a minor and almost imperceptible mistake.

[@phelipe.]

I agree. Rulon did nothing...

[@ВиталийФедоренко-н7т]

@@phelipe. юристы из США сделали его победу

[@justdynee]

So dominant was Karelin, Vegas only offered odds on if an opponent will get a point. Wrestling cows payed off for Rulon. Buster Douglas of wrestling.

[@apointtomake1517]

Karelin had to deal with an elephant seal that stalled the entire match. Karelin broke his clench because he was actively trying to score, while Gardner just flubbed around. Just sad Karelin's stellar career is marked by this abortion of a match.

[@Komfobia]

Is that Henry Kissinger at 0:02 and forward?

[@akshayraj7543]

It doesn't Seems like Gardner has won even after winning a match 🖤

[@harryhirsch8527]

Gardner won, like it or not...

[@domitille4752]

10:09 that woman's face... wow 😂

[@bobklein1665]

I thought I was looking at a zombie

[@Hyper_Driven]

Karelian was older and even his muscle mass wasn’t looking his normal self here. But still great win for Gardner.

[@gghice1]

i like that 13:36 'who knew, who knew..' expression on his face

[@umarlatif4251]

Karelin is still the best , Gardner is nothing compared to Karelin. In case of a rematch Gardner will gonna get it

[@TheOceanVoyager]

Karelin likes putin, you don’t know anything about the Russia , so shut up please

[@Z71990]

@@TheOceanVoyager are u mad. At that he is not in politics

[@diosdadoapias]

he may win in case of rematch but the fact remain that the Russian lost to the American. You can not delete that even tough the Russian is the strongest and best of all time.

[@TheQuetzalcoatl76]

Of course, this match was win by Gardner, but you cannot compare the athletes...Karelin is 10 times better

[@juandelacruz9859]

You called it "The Fall", the fall of what? He never fell. For one they changed the rules to give others the chance and then they reversed that rule . After several broken ribs, 13 years of dominance, 3 olympic gold and the last in 2000, a silver. He was defeated once and you call the "The fall"?

[@josephdorino8250]

Aleksandr Karelin was a shell of himself here ..And looks like father time caught up with him

[@senturkurun9078]

Benim için dünyanın gelmiş geçmiş en iyi güreşçi karalindir çok üzüldüm bir puanla

[@meherremnesirli5216]

Her kes icin oyledir Karelin 6 sene boyunca hic bir rakibe 1 puan bile vermeden yenmisdir 13 sene boyuncada hic yenilmemisdir

[@senturkurun9078]

@@meherremnesirli5216 887 maç yapmış iki kez yenilmiş ilk maçı kendi vatandaşına ikinci maçı da amerikaliya yenilmiş ondan sonra yenilmemis saygılarımla Allah'a emanet olun

[@Gabrielroque09]

Verdade e ele esta velho tambem.

[@KartografKejn]

Жиром выиграл а не силой, за счёт балов ахах 😂

[@anonymanonym6236]

Rulon got lucky. Now he payed for It

[@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520]

The Rock's promo from Raw the week after this sent me here

[@serhatmert0634]

THERE IS NO FALL. KARELIN IS THE GOAT AND ALWAYS A LEGEND.

[@darksiders2002]

When being Big Chungus reaches new heights.

[@elisannem5685]

Après avoir vu un documentaire sur la vie de Rulon Gardner, il fallait absolument que je regarde ce match. Rulon est et restera un héros, un homme avec un ❤ énorme.

[@Steel_Body1]

I refuse to accept the result

[@ЮрийОболонский-б5м]

Не понимаю Карелин перехватил захват.Он же вернул положение в захват Сам Классик, но никогда не знал ,что ввели такие правила.Во время СССР этого не было .Боролся сам и захваты перехватывал и бал не снимали и не начисляли.Потом Гарднер в партере был дважды,а это пассив у Карелина тоже должен быть бал.Засудили.

[@alfalfabojengels5646]

Even Jordan’s lost to Orlando & underwhelming career as a Wizard did nothing to tarnish his status as a legend & undisputed GOAT in the sport. Karelin is no different. He was past his prime, that’s all.

[@keysersoze5920]

Gardner should have been warned, penalized, and disqualified for his disgraceful (stalling) performance in this match.

[@taeka5595]

Rulon Gardner vs a Past his Prime Legend

[@КапитанПаникаа]

Karelin Legend

[@coughsyrup4610]

1:05 just murica things

[@learning.isnt.linear]

The lady's look at @ 10:07.

[@ciribonflex]

Karelin was off cycle!

[@NonprofitWrench]

People try to give Gardner a hard time, since his weight and positioning was a major strategy against karelins signiture lift. But here's the thing. Yea, karelin made a mistake that cost him a point, but Karelin wasnt able to score 1 single point against Gardner the entire match. No doubt Gardner was extremely talented to keep this monster at bay for so long, securing the victory. I also wonder what would have happened if karelin didnt reposition his hands/grip. He obviously did it because he sensed the position he was in was becoming disadvantageous. Perhaps he would have be taken down.

[@tr1k716]

I wonder who would have won If the rules weren't changed after America petitioned for It ?

[@O_salmonix]

True, and Gardner was successful at the judges not getting a single penalty point due to passivity (that he deserved, anyway) I think that was the game, and not the wrestling.

[@adgjmptpwpjm123]

facts

[@dantraficonte8752]

I remember watching this live when I was 10

[@NadiaKight]

This guy came to my school just a couple days ago too

[@enesylmaz8958]

Karelin is king of wrestling. REAL ADVENTURE LEGEND.

[@antimageap]

Talvez a maior zebra da história dos esportes. Se essa luta ocorresse umas 1000 vezes o americano não venceria nenhuma.

[@АлексейПамагимне]

Карелин намного старше и на закате карьеры. Просто этот Рулон попался именно в это время, ничего особенного из себя не представляя.

[@advisor_MBB]

Уже мышечная масса у дяди Саши не та. Возраст берет своё. Мощь ранее была видна, а в этом видео, явно не просматривается.

[@СергейСергей-ь5ь]

О чем вы говорите? Карелину тогда было всего 32 года ! Для тяжей это некритично. Просто перед схваткой обратите внимание какой взгляд у него и у американца . Гарднер шел либо умереть либо победить .

[@luagoluago]

A dub is a dub don’t make excuses 😂💯

[@Sami-nw7se]

Karelin made a mistake at first round trying too much to lift this heavyweightdude and losing strenght. Perhaps olympic comittee also wanted somebody else to win gold by making Karelin to compete two maches before finals.

[@tegoniemasz]

Win by fat. :D This result is a joke

[@nikolayivanov3275]

Ти наш идол Карелин България

[@ВасильДеліжанов]

Привет от крьімчанина. Видишь, что моя фамилия - болгарская? Россия - зло мира! Сметь оккупантам!!!

[@mack4691]

If this is one of his only losses then that only bolsters my opinion of Karelan.

[@18Tonis]

Πολύ ανώτερος ο Ρωσος,και ασχετος τελειως με την παλη να εισαι το βλέπεις ειναι εμφανές. Και ο Αμερικανός απο την στιγμή που πηρε αυτο τον πόντο στην συνέχεια ηταν πολυ παθητικος και επρεπε να του δώσουν πολλες ποινες οι διαιτητες