The Fall of Bleach: 4 Years Later

Turns out the true villain of Bleach… was me.
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[@WNPass]

"Being a fan isn't UNCONDITIONALLY loving something" - Man I wish that mentality was the status quo in every fandom, would rid a lot of the inherent toxicity

[@dinogt8477]

WindTheBrave no it’s called having a brain

[@dinogt8477]

​@WindTheBrave im not a fanboy like you and im not an idiot who loves something i only like something arent you basically apart of an echo chamber or just in a terrible community.

[@dinogt8477]

@WindTheBrave what the hell? So you dont even know what they are even talking about, i wonder who really is high? What kind of a freak are you?

[@vantablack2847]

@@dinogt8477 ...So you're just agreeing to the OP?

[@dinogt8477]

Vanta Black what op?

[@hbomberguy]

super eyepatch wolf went bankai

[@Kriken_]

He took a bite of gum gum

[@DK-ff4oi]

When’s the next video coming boss?

[@talesfromthenuzlocke1619]

I love books

[@darwinspain4831]

Hi hbomberguy

[@unblorbosyourshows9635]

@@Godaronful You can just watch his RWBY video and mentally replace every RWBY related word with a Bleach related word and that's it

[@charleshalcomb5638]

Hueco Mundo being a bland, empty desert actually fits the ideal of Hollows very well, in my opinion. Hollows are souls who let their grief and regrets from life overwhelm them, and as such have become tormented beings, devoid of happiness. They are, literally and figuratively, hollow. So, all in all, it fits the theme like a glove.

[@doxxbot4737]

"No guys you don't get it, the bad worldbuilding and repetitive story arc was INTENTIONALLY bad!"

[@afellownerd]

@@doxxbot4737 what he's referring to is soft worldbuilding, the type of worldbuilding bleach uses. It's based more on the world reflecting the themes of the story, as apposed to hard world building which is based on logistics. It's also used by stories like Hunter x Hunter, Ghibli movies, and Harry Potter. Hard worldbuilding is used by stories like one piece, lord of the Rings, and AoT. Neither method is inherently better or worse than the other, they're simply 2 different methods of worldbuilding

[@thecod2345]

@@afellownerd I’d say it did need a bit more concreteness in world building because as of right now, the little details seem to make little sense. For example, how can souls breed? Where are the resources in hueco mundo besides other hollows for ajunchas to eat? Why are captains that didn’t fight the quinces or other soul reapers so strong when their jobs are to kill hollows, of which all are extremely weak compared to them? Soft world building is fine but Kubo definitely would have benefitted from being more concrete with certain things.

[@justinaysien6451]

@@thecod2345truth

[@ievanpolkka1738]

@@thecod2345 it's all Aizen plans😂

[@dapperghastmeowregard]

Imagine creating a character named Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez and not putting him in literally everything.

[@ladynoluck]

This is the realest criticism of Bleach tbh

[@zootmusiclube5971]

He put some in the light novel and he plays a big part in it

[@dapperghastmeowregard]

@@zootmusiclube5971 Good. Because for reference I dropped out near the end of the Soul Society so literally the only things I know about him is his name and what he looks like and he's still one of my favorite characters.

[@robertoi5847]

@@dapperghastmeowregard Same here! I didn't realize how little I knew about him until you said it

[@jase276]

He became my favorite character of all time the moment he popped out of the sky and beat the ever-loving shit out of Ichigo bare-handed.

[@johannesjacome7539]

Tite Kubo should design clothing... I love the clothes that everyone wears.

[@glorioustigereye]

I second this his character design is awesome.

[@revlarmilion9574]

Do keep in mind most of them are from fashion catalogs

[@lolsnez7542]

And keep making manga

[@lamedrawings]

Bleach and One Piece fashion is pretty good.

[@Juan_shot]

he did want to become a cloth designer

[@GentlemansCombatives]

Supereyepatchwolf's villain reveal was unpredictable and true long term storytelling

[@sebastianmanthey742]

he truly is the Oda of youtubers

[@kaizenproductions00]

Surprised to see you here! I guess the combat sports and anime fandoms overlap a lot...

[@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123]

What? Pls explain

[@basswitch525]

@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 49:50 watch

[@bahmot9501]

@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 r/wooosh

[@lucasbrito7246]

Look, I avoided watching this video for quite a while. Bleach always had a special place in my heart. I didn't need anyone else telling me why I was "wrong" in enjoying something they considered an "inferior piece of media". Recently I came into contact with this channel again with the new Garfield video, and I loved it. And with the Bleach anime return now confirmed, I decided to man up and give this video a try. And I'm happy I did. I still love Bleach, and yet I fully support this video. I have a number of disagreements with quite a few points in it, but I can't say I don't understand your point of view. And to me, what really matters in the end is for us to be able to respect each others tastes and opinions, so I truly appreciate your position throughout the explanation. Needless to say, I'm now a fan of your work. Well done!

[@pantpocket1741]

you might have realized this, but it's definitely not a good thing to misconstrew on opinion piece on a piece of media as dude telling you your opinions are invalid

[@lucasbrito7246]

@@pantpocket1741 What? He didn't. There is a whole section at the end of the video where he literally states that if after we listened to him, we still don't agree with him and still love the series, then all power to us. This is how he interpreted the story. I have my own interpretation, and it's wildly different from his. I just respect his opinion, just as I felt he respected mine. There are a lot of people spreading unfounded hate over this series, but I don't think Wolf is one of them. People need to stop this mindset of us vs them. It's like differing opinions can't coexist anymore.

[@johnmerisd.copiling2468]

Wow! You're the culmination of how every anime fan should be, open to ideas and being respectful to other's opinions about the anime u love.

[@muhammadaxh]

@LucasBrito love this comment

[@gemain609]

@@lucasbrito7246 I think Pant was speaking to the introduction of your original comment where the original reason you avoided this video was because you were afraid of having your opinion contested (i.e. you made up your mind that this existing would somehow make your love of the series "wrong") It's a fair concern given how much bad faith opinions on the internet exist, but not something worth holding on tightly too. If ya really love something, criticism is a good thing so ultimately as another bleach fan, glad you ended up watching the video

[@RmsOceanic]

"I'm not going to go into the details of Goku vs Freeza, it's a long fight." It's not that long, it's only like five minutes.

[@Hell_O7]

"fives minutes"

[@rjofusetsudzin8011]

Those are some Dio's minutes

[@j.2512]

every second in dragon ball time is like 2 episodes

[@MrReset94]

TBF it's not that long on Paper, long, but not as much as in the Anime.

[@ty_teynium]

You sure you don't mean Krillin?

[@ferranp3600]

See you in 4 years for The Fall of Bleach: Everything went according to Keikaku*

[@Girvo747]

According to Keikaku??? (He edited his comment so my joke is now ruined. The original comment had Plan)

[@kanra1283]

@@Girvo747 KEIKAKU

[@naninyan]

You are that close to making a perfect comment and you miss it, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined Edit: understandable, have a nice day

[@kanra1283]

@Ruboert stallion and best manga is 177013

[@alithegreat9096]

kanra delet this 🔫

[@oguzmang]

after years of neglecting Bleach in the public eye, the new season for the last arc is incredibly exciting. it feels like actual time has passed in the story and we did not rush from one arc to the other

[@thepierre396]

Is the new season different from the actual manga arc ? Because god knows last arc was the worst in my opinion, manga wise

[@sterlingparker3155]

​@@thepierre396idk dude but it slaps tbh

[@thewanderingartists]

​@@thepierre396the manga was rushed the anime expands and it slaps hard 🔥🔥🔥🔥 the entire fandom is erect as far as I know.

[@thepierre396]

@@thewanderingartists Rushed ??? The manga was painfully slow for this arc

[@thewanderingartists]

@@thepierre396 the manga portrayed squad zero as literally 0 and they all got killed, there are some sections being expanded in the anime.

[@dannysdungareedanceoff8481]

To be honest, if Kubo stuck with the fullbringer stuff and he took time to deepened his relationship with his friends and used different tokens or artifacts to channel his full bringer powers to be a more versatile and had to be more strategic it would've been so fantastic The battles would've been so unique, and not just with the Villians like the Quincy but with Ichigo too

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

@@thecod2345 but ichigo mainly fights in his bankai state and this was explored in ichigo vs renji

[@EnjinSosei]

I know this is an 8 month old comment, but I wanna add: This would also remove my main problem of the fullbringer arc: It being entirely abt revsersing the consequences of the previous arc.

[@brandonchacon7745]

I just wanted to point out more technical insight on the frieza fight, Frieza's main weakness even before Goku goes super saiyan is that he can't sense energy, and major points in the fight reflects that; Goku underwater blindsighting him with ki blasts, Goku surprising him with Kaioken, Goku charging the spirit bomb right over his head, and then again at the end when frieza becomes so distraught that he doesn't even keep track of the trajectory of his little pizza slicers. IMO this also blends in with his character/emotional shortcoming as well since Frieza's whole personality is that he thinks everybody else is insignificant, so of course he wouldn't care to feel their energy.

[@bryal7811]

The notion of a super saiyan is also introduced early on with the fall of the Ginyu force. It becomes a huge character flaw as Vegeta shows desperation in trying defeat the tyrant that pinned him down all his life by clinging to a fairy tale of his dead race. The power up serves both an emotional and technical progression to the story of DBZ

[@Sakaki98]

bryal Not only that, it ties into themes of nature vs nurture in general, which were prevalent throughout the entirety of the previous Saiyan Saga. Goku defeats both Vegeta and Frieza who initially view him as inherently inferior through hard work. Goku utilizes his unique saiyan biology with both Zenkai boosts and super saiyan to become strong enough to actually challenge Frieza and the Ginyu force, proving to both that it was Saiyans who were inherently superior all along. Trash as Super is, people don’t give early DBZ enough credit for the amount of storytelling it packs into its fighting and training arcs...

[@rashotcake6945]

That’s a really cool point that I hadn’t thought about, thank you.

[@theeternalslayer]

That and frieza like vegeta was incredibly arrogant, being superior because it's his birthright their is nobody above him, here comes goku a sayain that trained his entire life fought multiple battles grew naturally the thought of "wait I can lose!?" Never crossed his mind, its just like bryal said nature vs nurture. Birthright vs. Hardwork

[@theinimitablejora522]

PLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS The Super Saiyan transformation had been foreshadowed by Vegeta's mentionings of the Super Saiyan legend beforehand... almost too much so.

[@anonnymous1312]

Eyepatch wolf takes off his glasses and slicks backs his hair

[@mannythelazyguy6529]

its was me austin, it was me all along!

[@pantyosashu8137]

NOW IM MOTIVATED

[@theflashgordon193]

wait you mean I was the main villain all along ?!

[@kurowasanabe]

@@mannythelazyguy6529 AW SONUVABITCH!

[@jotulepr]

He doesnt deserve ur aizen comment

[@TheCrimsonCat89]

The Sealed King of The 3 Kings of Shonen Anime. Hidden in the shadows since its last airing in 2012. In 10 years it shall recover its fanbase. In the 10th month it shall recover its story. On the 10th day it shall recover its animation. And over its runtime, it shall recover the world.

[@hippityhoppityyourbrainisn4384]

The hype-mighty does not just have the power to see the stats of a shonen magazine,it has the power to alter it!

[@rockstickcomics]

Lol nah

[@matthewmuir8884]

Very clever. This definitely got a laugh out of me.

[@Excaliber682]

Facts lol

[@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagari]

@@rockstickcomicsit's happening

[@sweezdraws]

Probably an unpopular opinion but i loved the full bring arc. felt super refreshing, and i actually wouldnt have minded a spinoff series focusing on fullbring as the combat mechanic with a new cast in another part of the world.

[@gabrielcaro]

Totally, I love it! It’s the reason I got into bleach!

[@hippityhoppityyourbrainisn4384]

The full bring arc was heavily underrated.

[@greenpanda.k8337]

It was fire. And the op really set the tone cus it was diff

[@pn7600]

fullbring arc was 🔥

[@Flack0-Flacko]

I mean there kinda is one if u count can’t fear your own world

[@rickxhoshinji]

To sum up Bleach battles in one sentence: "Oh, it's funny you think that was my full power."

[@suffy101]

every shonen anime

[@louayker4249]

@@suffy101 Hxh : hold my rose bomb lol

[@asura7915]

@@suffy101 if you really think that you must not have read many shonen

[@creepyshinigami2469]

Tell it to Toriyama how he made Goku lol.

[@suffy101]

@@asura7915 been watching Shonen Anime since 2004 ait?

[@themecoptera9258]

“Male models shooting ghosts at each other”

[@starkiller6tothe9gaming81]

Pretty accurate minus The hands stand user and that guy from golden wind who's stand is a fishing rod that phases through shit

[@blademaster4361]

Okuyasu and pesci

[@starkiller6tothe9gaming81]

@@blademaster4361 they both ugly

[@jackgebhardt2932]

@@blademaster4361 Notorious B.I.G. user.

[@DrORRB-qm7fl]

@@starkiller6tothe9gaming81 How DARE you! Okuyasu is beautiful.

[@Lonestarz95]

SEW: "I thought you died!" Bleach: "My death was greatly exaggerated."

[@theshonenmaster2989]

How can you kill a manga when it his main theme is death btw ?

[@theletters9623]

You managed to explain what I called the "power creep" problem of Bleach. I didnt know why Ichigo's powerups felt less like things he learned and more like power creep in a trading card game

[@marcomilillo2001]

Mostly because Ichigo never had the chance to explore himself by training The story should have gave him more chance to train. So at least the becoming strong would have felt more deserved,that he was indeed being proactive towards it

[@dankerbooper]

Saying Ichigo's self realization that was built up since the Soul Society arc to finally achieve his true shikai is unearned would be disingenuous

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@marcomilillo2001 I don't know, he did train with urahara for 10 days cuz he had the potential to achieve shikai just like urahara saw it. Mystic gohan became mystic by sitting hours in front of an old dude. Ichigo achieved bankai in three days cuz yoruichi saw that he could attain it (it wasn't his true bankai btw) Ichigo's vasto lorde has been foreshadowed by white, and mugetsu has been explained, he did trained 2000 hours in the dangai as his father knew that his son could attain that form but also knew the consequences of it. So saying that there are asspulls meanwhile we got naruto with his foxy tails is just bias...

[@Stanzbey69]

@@theshonenmaster2989not everything is about training. Why do you shonen fans think training arcs are necessary? A zanpakuto is linked to the soul of its user. The powerspikes for ichigo are entirely linked to his journey of self discovery and character development. Literally, read the blade is me, dude

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@Stanzbey69 he does both btw. We saw flashbacks of kenpaichi remembering his training with yamamoto... Unohana knows a lot of styles of zanjutsu.

[@naythonld2088]

Maybe the true Fall of Bleach is the friends we made along the way.

[@LordYamcha]

Isn't that the One Piece?

[@kingmuizz708]

The one piece?

[@abloshow91]

@@kingmuizz708 its been too long dont joke

[@kingmuizz708]

@@abloshow91 ..........

[@Puerco-Potter]

It's all about family

[@gankhef5564]

I don't think we fully appreciated the mini golden age of 2000's Shonen. Early Naruto and Bleach, FMA, Death Note etc.

[@Ray03595]

we were so spoiled. Every week just hit with some of the best shounen stories around. Take me back....

[@Ludo045]

How about you start reading good mangas instead of these generic crap...

[@blanknowledge4342]

@@Ludo045 what would you suggest as an alternarive to this "generic crap"?

[@HerMi.T]

@@Ludo045 do you even know the meaning of generic? Anything become generic if it used many times. Naruto, bleach and one piece are not generic. But overuse of these concept create other anime into generic one. On the other hand, Death note, Full metal alchemist brotherhood, Monster, Fate Stay night are still the great shows even in these days because their concept are hard to copy because they are always very distinct and unique thematically.

[@Jabranalibabry]

I agree with you.

[@takeru3159]

I'm just here to rewatch this in preparation of John dropping Fall of Bleach: 4 years later: 4 years later in a few months.

[@milleniumfrisbee]

I think the reason some people dont enjoy Bleach that much is because most of the increases in power and training is more about the characters having self discovery and acceptance, not so much about "Heres a technique, heres how to learn it." Every time Ichigo becomes more powerful he is letting go of fear, gaining resolve, overcoming trauma, and later on learning the true nature of his heritage and accepting himself. Each time he further accepts himself, the more power he can tap into.

[@gaminginvirinch3339]

So it's about fighting and fighting itself ?

[@lucascurio8345]

That isn’t very clearly explained throughout it’s hidden and surreal brief imagery that has little time and even less context. While interesting as a method of powering up and if done in a more clear or even coherent way the critical depiction of it in this video would be less justified. When you have to rely on KZbinrs or have a masters degree in Bleach World Studies to explain how the power system makes sense actually it might aswell not make sense for the average viewer. If this powering up had any impact on his fighting style, a new strategy or on how he used this new poet in contrasted to his pre-existing powers these more abstract powering ups would have felt less like Deus ex machina. Ichigo while going through a lot of emotional growth fails to demonstrate that through his fighting style past just being “stronger due to a new power available to him”.

[@domainhami5253]

​@@lucascurio8345 dude stop its not that deep it was never that deep stfu

[@kelvinallen9327]

​@@domainhami5253 OMG. Did you not know that soul reapers need to communicate with their zanpakuto's. Bleach is very deep. Eye Patch wolf is mostly pointing out things he didnt like, but none of those things makes bleach bad.

[@Vordt_]

@@lucascurio8345 I'd argue that anyone that isnt an anime only would notice these if they're actually reading the manga via the volumes, not just chapters online. Kubo puts poems at the start of basically every chapter to emphasize the importance of what happens in that chapter, most of which are directly correlating to bankai, shikai, ressurection, or Völlstandig, holy form, segunda etapa, etc. They're meant to be emotional moments, not just physical ones. Kubo puts in the effort to get the message across, you just need to be able to see it.

[@SentientCubed]

"Male models shooting ghosts at each other." I have never heard a more accurate explanation of Jojo in my life

[@j.2512]

change "gay models" to "flamboyant homosexuals and drag queens" and you got it

[@bri1085]

@Ho Lee Shi And some plankton as well, don't forget the plankton shooting ghosts in part 6

[@PaperPatriot]

All according to Aizen's plan Eyepatch, This is the official start of the bleach comeback!

[@FluffyWuffy17]

Note: Plan means Keikaku

[@yiangaruga4928]

Bleach won't make a redeeming comeback. I get that the diehard fans are happy but the series has so many issues that not even a complete reboot could fix it. Would I watch it? Heck yeah I would if it's well made. But the series has huge issues. I think people should just move on and enjoy the good moments it had

[@finklebottommale4548]

@@FluffyWuffy17 Note: Keikaku means cake

[@mannythelazyguy6529]

@@yiangaruga4928 same honestly, i just want the series to shut me up and be good, fuck i loved bleach, loved urahara, then he got his bankai and he just stalled until grimjoe and nel showed up cause... fanservice i guess, and finish him up, its just painfull to watch the series if you like the characters that get screwed

[@lucastavares5103]

nah. bleach is still a dull series. No worldbuilding, and the protagonist is boring.

[@trapadvisor]

How has it been almost two years since I first watched this? I swear your videos always come out around big moments in my life so coming back and watching them again years later make me realize how far I, your channel, and the world has come in these years.

[@nothing3887]

Oh it ain’t a fall anymore!

[@TheEddagosp]

Just FYI, pretty sure it's canon but Hueco Mundo isn't "basically Hell", the Bleach Universe has an *actual* hell. Hueco Mundo just houses tormented souls that are not allowed in Soul Society, due to obvious reasons, before they pass on into the cycle of reincarnation again. Remember, a lot of Hollow aren't evil creatures, most of them are normal souls that were twisted post-death before they moved on to Soul Society. Hell is punishment and has the souls that were removed from the cycle of reincarnation to suffer said punishment.

[@Anvarynn]

Didn't one of the hollows actually get sent to actual hell in the anime?

[@alexanderbassett2901]

@@Anvarynn Yes, the one who was with the parrot. That kid was sent to Soul Society and was found by Sado.

[@dudejoe24]

@@Anvarynn and the manga and it was because he was a serial killer when he was human and used his hollow powers to keep killing

[@Anvarynn]

@@dudejoe24 Right, I knew that much, I was only commenting to compound the OP's point.

[@grfrjiglstan]

That just sounds like hell with extra steps.

[@chrismaystar3014]

"You're even uglier than I expected" is the most heart-wrenching panel of any manga for me. I've been hurt by a lot from Shonen, but nothing beats having the one person who didn't care about your appearance (especially when you hate your own face) call you a monster.

[@vincent8460]

what's this referencing to? i haven't watched the video

[@Tarkara]

@@vincent8460 when Tousen gains sight and sees Komamura, the best friend he betrayed, for the first time

[@chrismaystar3014]

@@vincent8460 Tosen calls Kamamura uglier than he expected after meeting him again during Aizen's main arc.

[@xBIGGIx]

That moment was a massive tear jerker. Like jesus that hurt.

[@asarishepard8171]

that killed me and ive never read or seen one moment of Bleach. This guy explains things so well i didn't have to!

[@OwlEye2010]

Based on the Bleach anime returning with the Thousand Year Blood War and sales for the manga having only increased since its conclusion, I think it's safe to say that, warts and all, people still love Bleach. I imagine that since its been six years since the ending came out, fans have had the time to reflect on the series as a whole; finding reasons to reappraise some aspects previously dismissed, to appreciate Bleach's strengths all the more and to remind themselves why the series made such an impact on them.

[@SinHurr]

Greetings from the future! The Thousand Year Blood War adaption is FUCKING GREAT holy shit they're killing it top to bottom.

[@OwlEye2010]

@@SinHurr Awesome to hear!

[@Nick-ok9om]

I don’t think that the Shinigami revealing their shikai/bankai is just random or however he framed it, we know they each have one so we are just waiting for them to use it to turn the tide of the battle

[@FFKonoko]

It would have helped if you had linked to the bit you mean. As it stands, it reads like you don't even know how he frames it or what he was saying. I wrote the above before reaching the point, I think this is it: 27:23 is talking about how the reveals of power ups are just used to turn the tide of the battle, as you said. The bit you ignored is that it isnt just shikai and bankais, and you have a character sitting on multiple power ups and willingly not using them earlier, even in desperate circumstances. Renji is real determined not to use that bankai against anyone but byakuya, even to the point of potentially dying to ichigo. Which can work as a character thing...baldy and pretty boy hiding their shikai and bankai are deliberately explained to try to make it make sense but... It isn't random. It's specifically to solve problems and only then, and because it happens in sequence, it means that too many people were purposely sandbagging. It happens too often and too consistently to be a character thing everytime. And too often means it undermines the threat, because...oh cool, the captains were all only losing because they were being power limited. Despite previously the arrancar being stated to be dire threats to them and able to curb stomp the entire of soul society...

[@samt3412]

@@FFKonoko it gets really annoying to have every fight be "oh, you're not holding back anymore? Guess I'LL not hold back!" Every. Single. Time. Even better, they sometimes pull that card, twice, in the same fight. Why is this such a common shonen trope? One Piece, MHA, and JJK usually don't do this (unless you want to count Domain Expansions, which are the only exception to this rule in JJK). And I like that they don't do this, because fights are more efficient and they make more sense because why wouldn't you immediately activate your strongest form?

[@Stanzbey69]

@@FFKonoko aren’t power ups supposed to turn a battle around? Like what? And even in some cases the powerups aren’t enough for example in the shunsui vs lille barro fight

[@vcifg]

This guy was probably fire at writing essays in high school

[@nothingheretosee193]

All he did was write a good intro & 5 paragraphs of Bullshit & a summary that was just a copy & paste of his intro lol

[@TheNikito34z]

@@nothingheretosee193 sounds like a good highschool essay lmao

[@attackontitansucks1042]

​@@nothingheretosee193 Are you a Bleach fan?

[@TheTundraTerror]

@@nothingheretosee193 No, that's all YOU did.

[@michaelokedasi1012]

@@nothingheretosee193 bleach fans salty af! 🥵

[@sirapple589]

18:25 Not only does Aizen stop Ichigo with a single finger, he also stopped his theme song. Aizen stopped the main character’s theme song. That is still an amazing moment.

[@chukuemekaoje1015]

That moment is waaaaay underrated and when I first saw it, I was like "oh shit...". It's a fantastic way to sell how powerful the villain actually is.

[@Mvillano13]

One of the best plot twists in anime history

[@Icarusblade123]

And, if Im not mistaken as its been awhile, doesn't that theme song NEVER play again after said moment? Cause if so, its even more hype!

[@Msoulwing]

@@Icarusblade123 I don't recall if it does, but a different version gets introduced when Ichigo shows up post-Final Getsuga training.

[@captainblackhook9888]

And then Ichigo stops AIZEN's themesong during their rematch only to finish him off with a remixed version of the theme song Aizen killed.

[@voiceofthevoiceless5275]

Your videos on the subject are a bright spot in these trying times, so thank you for that.

[@quangtuantran7181]

A piece of my childhood that I ll always fondly remember, especially the soul society arc, that feeling when your whole world was expanded for the 1st time, when everything turned from something lighthearted to despair and sacrifice. This arc was what bleach meant to me and no matter how shitty it became, I will always love it

[@cosmicflower5891]

I think the arrancar, hueco mundo and Fake Karakura still retained the quality of the SS arc, I have some nitpicks here and there, but I don't think it got shitty

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@cosmicflower5891 forget it buddy, all these emo nostalgic dudes act all as if bleach fell off after soul society or should have ended after arrancar arc, they can't even understand what kubo wanted for the series and can't even appreciate the character developpements they have been throughout the series for characters.

[@Deity_devil]

I think it god shitty at fullbring arc tybw is good

[@misteryA555]

Me: *has never watched Bleach* Me: *sees an almost hour long video about Bleach* Me, for some reason: Ooo, yes, thank you!

[@10nepiece]

this was me essentially but having grown up at the peak of big 3 also ya know eyepatch videos are still probably my favorite on the platform

[@shanks6190]

Should I watch Bleach? Is it worth watching ?

[@zaphero5518]

Not gonna lie this video definitely sold me on watching Bleach up until the end of Soul Society. I am very much down for a Shonen battle series that peaks hard with an excellent arc, possibly one of the best in the genre, early on and gives me a good stopping point after that. No need to keep up with it forever or for 100s of episodes just watch the first few or couple arcs and chill.

[@peepeepoopoo5423]

@@shanks6190 i recommend bleach until the last arc of the manga. But if you're interested on the anime 100%. But honestly man, don't let other's opinions tell you what you should and shouldn't enjoy and people who over criticize everything, like anime, probably don't enjoy a lot of things and are sore losers. Just enjoy and have fun watching anime

[@ParisHoward]

@@zaphero5518 Actually i recommend stopping at the end of the aizen arc

[@EvilPumpkin]

"This plot twist was so bad... so unbeliavable bad, it's somehow genius." - Bleach fan, 4chan (2016)

[@anatoli1234567890]

fan boys what you want from them. its was just bad. as there was no plot twist he just did something on the spot as he was on a timer to finish.

[@bqw2094]

That is the most pathetic attempt at damage controlling.

[@jucycreidy]

kubo Himself asked to end it… he was fedup with the story.. is not easy been a mangaka..

[@bqw2094]

@@jucycreidy he could made it easier for himself if he had just gotten himself a writing partner.

[@anatoli1234567890]

@@bqw2094 no he is not.

[@NRobbi42]

Are you the reason everyone thinks Bleach is bad?

[@jadel1108]

yes

[@johnpanicker7590]

Was this video made when Bleach was axed?

[@jadel1108]

@@johnpanicker7590 yeah

[@adriatic.vineyards]

The way the cuts in video editing align so well with the your audio/sentence structures... Damn. Well done.

[@MessatsuGoshoryu02]

My favourite page of any comic book I've ever read is Isshin smoking a cigarette in front of his wife's tomb and telling Ichigo that he smokes one every year in front of her because the only compliment his late wife ever told him is that he looked very handsome when he held a cigarette. I think the only driving force that got me to read Bleach way after I stopped enjoying it is to see if Kubo would ever call back this moment, but I guess it was more significant to me than him

[@SuperHighSchoolLevelMeganekko]

That sounds like such a cool scene!!

[@madmouse4400]

The first arc of bleach (before the apparition of Byakuya and Renji) is the most meaningful arc to me. When it was small and very emotional with Scarry hollows. It was sad that Kubo didn't use the concept of hollows for developing the arrancars. Like in the first arc , it's explained that they're souls of people who didn't succeed to overcome their Grief after their death and becoming monsters.

[@timothypickarski5234]

Agreed, the first arc of bleach was something wacky, entertaining, and touching to me. Everything after was good, especially the soul society arc’s expert plot eyepatchwolf described, but I think it had lost its funk early on

[@concept5631]

"I think the only driving force that got me to read Bleach ... see if Kubo would ever call back this moment, but I *_guess it was more significant to me than him."_* I haven't read or watched Bleach nor have I ever heard of this scene prior to seeing your comment, but the last bit of the last sentence of your comment made me feel something.

[@MessatsuGoshoryu02]

@@concept5631 That particular scene wasn't adapted by the anime so most people don't even know about it, but it really stuck with me since the first time I read it when I was a kid. I couldn't tell you why it left this much of an impression on me but I really like to go back to those couple of pages and just stare at them for a while every now and then

[@TributeJr]

In Kenpachi's defense, "Swinging a sword with two hands" wasn't a new technique. He's just lazy and personally opposed to doing it. Watching Nnoitora have to react to being told completely deadpan: "Hey btw, did you know swords hit harder if you swing with two hands?" is comedy gold, thanks.

[@anenemystand5582]

I think on it's own that's fine. Like it's a pretty good joke. But in a larger context of something being presented as immediately the exact answer to the problem at hand it kind of dulls the joke ya know.

[@vcamv2354]

@@anenemystand5582 t was not like "Immediately the exact answer", Zraki simply thought "Well, if I use both hand, I'll swing harder, let's see if it does the job" and it happened to do the job. And again, it was already established Zaraki always undermines his powers to the leve of his opponents, so him being able to one shot guys, is just his normal state of being. It was not the immediate solution, cause he was hurting Nnoitra with other hits, he just developed and won the battle

[@anenemystand5582]

@@vcamv2354 so it was immediately the answer.

[@vcamv2354]

@@anenemystand5582 Nope. It happened to be. If it was the immediate answer, it would've been presented as "Oh yeah, I just have to use both hands, you'll die now". Zaraki was testing and it happened to be the immediate answer, it doesn't mean it was, as f it was presented as, or the immediate solution. And again, taking out of context and looking it as "A simple power boost" can be done in any series, if you ignore the background of things and only look at the bass of what happened

[@revlarmilion9574]

@@vcamv2354 So it was immediately the answer.

[@evanswindells5519]

36:20 The wackest thing is, the Ichigo vs Aizen fight does have a narrative behind it, it's just that the narrative is thrown away for Final Getsugatenshou. (SPOILERS AHEAD) In this arc, there's a massive bombshell twist that Aizen drops on Ichigo; he's the reason behind Ichigo's rise to power. Aizen brags that the ever-increasing difficulty of his fights was due to Aizen deliberately setting up each successive fight to intentionally grow Ichigo's power. That EVERYTHING Ichigo has done, from encountering Rukia, to becoming a soul reaper, to invading the soul society, was essentially all part of Aizen's 12D chess game (or at least within his calculations). In the Thousand-Year Blood War it's revealed (SPOILERS AGAIN) that Ichigo's parents met due to an encounter with Aizen's pet hollow, White, so there's even an argument to be made that Icihgo's birth was organised by Aizen (though this is a stretch). So there's a whole 'created rising to surpass the creator' narrative that is just ripe for the taking but ultimately goes nowhere.

[@theshonenmaster2989]

it goes somewhere, just some people don't understand it.

[@ianszabo2079]

The funniest thing about it is how incredibly fucking stupid and lazy it is. There’s absolutely no evidence that Kubo actually wrote Bleach in such a way where this would be the underlying plot thread, instead he just does the “bleach asspull” tactic again of not actually doing the difficult narrative work of actually showing the reader how Aizen is this “master 34DDD chess master” but rather just says “oh yeah uh Aizen was manipulating everything since before you were born” in a single moment of the Manga. It’s so stupid!

[@almosteldenlord9008]

@@theshonenmaster2989 Let's not say that because most of this was revealed AFTER THEIR FIGHT so it didn't matter, telling someone something versus it actual being shown does a lot . R.G Naruto vs Pain, Luffy vs Doflamingo etc fights need weight and we need to see that weight

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@almosteldenlord9008 kubo doesn't spoonfed as always

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@almosteldenlord9008 funny thing is the ending of arrancar arc was teasing us bout the soulking but we understand it way later especially with the added scenes of the tybw anime, but I guess that some people aren't patient enough to wait the explanation and they want everything to be explained directly, another funny thing is, when oda or another author does this, wow it's a foreshadowing with a strong narrative, but when kubo does it, nah it is bad, personally, I appreciated the dynamic between urahara and aizen, ichigo's final form was character development for him as he was finally ready to give up his powers to protect the people he needed to, + when something that you may find subjectively bad doesn't make objectively bad, oh and check a look at dbzimran and flame of rebirth videos that debunked this 90 % false video btw

[@WarrickRanger]

Ichigo was one of my favorite cosplays I ever did. I remember going to an an anime con right after I had discovered Bleach, and I was so enthralled with it that I skipped Saturday completely to watch it my hotel room. I will never not love it.

[@nunyabiznes7446]

I can't wait for 4 years down the road when you can make The Fall of Bleach: 8 Years Later as an April fools prank

[@GeorgePerakis]

>April fool's prank Nah, fanboys will find something wrong with this video too. And the next video will have to be at least twice as long to address everything. All according to Aizen's keikaku. Muahahaha.

[@khongbiettuc7445]

After a short intro, Rick Astley start singing on loop for 1 hr

[@electricbluetiramisu3713]

“Bleach is full of star fingers” is a sentence that none of us should ever have to hear, Eyepatch Wolf. Edit: you handsome devil

[@bangyonggukisgod1773]

why?

[@King-Bubel]

bang yongguk is god star finger is an ability introduced in JoJo part 3, used for 2 battles, and never used or referenced ever again in the manga.

[@Doomroar]

I am 100% ok with characters unleashing new moves almost out of nowhere, you know they have a hidden card and they will use it at one point. However, what i am not ok with, is when the secret hidden card is specifically tailored to counter the opponent's own secret card, that's way too much bullshit. So you are gonna tell me that each time, for each match up, every single character was hiding a secret power that was gonna be useless unless they unleashed it just to counter the secret power of this one bad guy? come the fuck on!

[@derektafoya1152]

I'll keep saying it, best voice on KZbin

[@solidpython4964]

a lot of the fights he references though are awful examples for what he is trying to say, yumichika's shikai is super foreshadowed, its obvious that rukia would use her shikai, its like saying jotaro won a fight with star platinum, thats literally rukia's ability. there are definitely a lot of moments that i agree with, like most uryu fights. but saying "yoroichi won her fight with her brand new shunko" when... thats literally her main and only ability and both she and soi fon have it is just... strange i mean its like saying rock lee vs gaara has "poor technical narrative" because we didn't know about the gates or that lee could use them. it doesnt make any sense.

[@Alex_YJ_Reed]

The phrase, "years of watching something I loved turn into something I didn't" holds so much weight and feels very relatable on a subconscious level.

[@MelissaJetzt]

As a major Bleach fan, thank you for correcting your previous video. I actually agree with a lot of your points; my friend is binging Bleach right now to get to the TYBW anime and it’s a slog. It’s actually KZbinrs like Mr. Tommo that have gotten me so deep into the lore of Bleach and all its characters that those storytelling pitfalls (that you masterfully categorized) just don’t matter that much to me. I enjoy the world of Bleach regardless, and the TYBW arc is really killing it right now. I definitely learned something from this video, so I appreciate that.

[@kelvinallen9327]

Its very interesting, he talked about repitition, as if it had a bad impact on the series. Grimjow & renji are hot headed, but unique. Nell transforming is different from Youruichi transforming. Not forgetting both transformation were sexy. Kubo possibly did that as a tease for us 😂. Kyoraku fighting 3 characters that uses guns. Its possible, Kubo just did those things to mess with the characters, and to be funny. Like hitsugaya, always getting Slash to his side 😂. Yamamooto always getting tricked into losing. Ichigo always getting manipulated by ( Aizen, Ginjo, Yuwach) 😂. These things dont affect Bleach in any way. The series is & will forever be Great. Dont forget, Naruto, Jiraya, & Obito are so so so so so so so different ? 😂. There team mates are so so so different 😂? Their rivals were all prodigies ( kakashi, orochimaru & sauske) 😂🤣?. These things dont affect the shows in any bad way. 👍

[@Excaliber682]

​@@kelvinallen9327 Yeah its so different people don't talk about it in Naruto but people nit pik when criticizing Bleach 😂

[@flux_casey]

@@Excaliber682 People *absolutely* talked about it in Naruto, my guy. People got so, so sick of the Generation Xerox trope, and the "He's just like me!"-ing of every villain became a meme in the fandom for a reason. If people don't like something, they generally don't like it whenever it comes up, so it is with repetitiveness.

[@Excaliber682]

@@flux_casey Except the difference is most of the things used repetitively in Bleach only applies on minor things like how Shunsui always gets to fight with people with guns. Most of them aren't on the same level as the "Generational Xerox trope"

[@flux_casey]

@@Excaliber682 The entire plot structure reused. You can try to break it down into its constituent parts of "Oh, he only repeated this tiny thing" but no, the story moves near enough the exact same way beat for beat. The only exceptions being in Hueco Mundo the female character gets to win a somewhat important fight (kind of) and Ichigo doesn't get slapped with a weekend training camp for his eleventh hour power up. Honestly, it's a little weird to see defenses of this particular thing. Because you've got half of people saying it's only superficial similarities and people are overstating it. Then you've got people saying that yes it's repetitive, because it's on purpose as a reflection of Soul Society as a "we're not that different" kind of thing. Thing is, it doesn't matter. Whichever way you want to justify it, you do you. If you still like it, like it! If you don't mind, more power to you! My issue comes in when people feel like to defend the thing they like, they have to attack the people who don't like it and essentially call them hypocrites. That ain't cool. We have different tastes and preferences and that's fine.

[@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665]

Quick thing Huaca Mundo is meant to be like the hungry ghost realm in Buddhism it’s not exactly hell and it’s more about over attachment to material possessions and all you do there is eat but you’re always hungry (like how Hollows constantly devour each other)

[@lurkr00]

It was perhaps a oversight considering the amount of research that went into the video.

[@lurkr00]

@@TheHermesLP I think it's interesting that an arc with 2 varying concepts. I mean I would pick one and build on it just to be consistent

[@archwaldo]

@loafhero Tite Kubo has a medical condition, so his body forced him to end it. Bleach is half-finished.

[@IllegalCharacters]

@@TheHermesLP If youtube had gifs I'd present you with Shia Labeouf Clapping

[@vitormanoelvieira3964]

Yes, there is a Hell, Hueco Mundo is supposed to be a realm for people who died and couldn't let go of their past and ended up being consumed by it.

[@Foxomar1]

I gotta say .. as someone who makes videos I just want to appreciate the way you narrate the video Its honestly magical

[@amirboukhalfa8455]

عنده الستايل الخاص به كما أنت عندك الستايل الخاص بك و الي أتمنى انه يظل يتحسن و تبقى في تطور لتصل لما هو أفضل مما أنت عليه الأن وتصبح أنت أيضا تملك سحر خاص في طرح الأفكار

[@jojostar8836]

It ain't that deep

[@silver14626]

السلام عليكم

[@victoralejandro2213]

@@jojostar8836 It doesn´t have to be deep, it just has to be engaging, and that it most certainly is.

[@TFDwolf]

@Kayvee Record yourself narrating anything, and then listen back to it, and then revise your opinion.

[@laughingfox931]

I admire your integrity and willingness to so publicly admit your mistakes. It's a rare thing these days. Never forget it's value.

[@Kingdramana]

I so freaking love the way you dramatize some bits. It's great

[@kelvinallen9327]

Its very interesting, he talked about repitition, as if it had a bad impact on the series. Grimjow & renji are hot headed, but unique. Nell transforming is different from Youruichi transforming. Not forgetting both transformation were sexy. Kubo possibly did that as a tease for us 😂. Kyoraku fighting 3 characters that uses guns. Its possible, Kubo just did those things to mess with the characters, and to be funny. Like hitsugaya, always getting Slash to his side 😂. Yamamooto always getting tricked into losing. Ichigo always getting manipulated by ( Aizen, Ginjo, Yuwach) 😂. These things dont affect Bleach in any way. The series is & will forever be Great. Dont forget, Naruto, Jiraya, & Obito are so so so so so so so different ? 😂. There team mates are so so so different 😂? Their rivals were all prodigies ( kakashi, orochimaru & sauske) 😂🤣?. These things dont affect the shows in any bad way. 👍

[@abbacuspotter9232]

i gotta say, Aizen's illusions are so effective that they spread to the real world. First time watching this, as soon as i saw Aizen, i was like ok, this guy is definitely the villain, hes way too over the top nice, and his voice/cadence is laid on thicc. he has to be the secret villain. then bam, he's "dead". I then thought, oh hell, i was way off the mark. and when the reveal came that he was alive and was a villain, i was actually surprised, felt like a double fake out, and it was a masterpiece of villain reveals, nothing in any other anime comes close.

[@gariwald4946]

I really kept being sure he was of the bad guy. he whole Aizen evil / Ichimaru good was actually the one thing I saw coming from the second I saw their faces !

[@robbyv109]

Kanjuro from one piece is the same caliber, but yeah. When I was a teen, the Aizen reveal blew my mind

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

Reminds me of the killer in the first Scream movie. “Oh he’s the bad guy for sure” “ehhhh....maybe not.” “Oh. He is”

[@MaxIronsThird]

He wasn't actually supposed to be the bad guy, Kubo only came up with the idea after Aizen was already dead.

[@gariwald4946]

@@MaxIronsThird I seriously doubt that it was obvious

[@SuzakuX]

"I have the power A: ANT. My strength is that of an ant, but scaled up to the size of a human!" "Hah! Fool! My blade is Tsuchibuta! The Aardvark! It eats ants for breakfast!"

[@bluecloud4652]

I love bleach, but this made me laugh way too much

[@javelinmaster2]

"Hah! Your blade cannot eat me! IT'S ALREADY PAST BREAKFAST!" "NANI!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@trackernivrig]

javelinmaster2 lol

[@WeyardWiz]

@@javelinmaster2 Yet my blade is the embodiment of the saying itself! Dinner before breakfast!

[@javelinmaster2]

@@WeyardWiz "Hah I know that you haven't eaten yet!! And I have a secret Ability which is that I can Decide when it is time for something or not! so now IT WILL NEVER BE TIME FOR BREAKFAST!!!!!"

[@elijahjones2483]

the Fullbringer Ark is so close to being good in different ways but falls short. Like I liked the idea of exploring the emotional implications of losing access to a world and friends he has become so connected to is interesting. I like how the villains ability to invade the important peoples in ichigo’s life’s history could have built on that. Forcing Ichigo to lose everything. I feel like that would have been awesome if they leaned into it.

[@ugobrown2357]

But.....they did, u saw ichigo legit break and his descent before then. And him pick himself back up even if it was gonna result in failure

[@chavaspada]

They did. Ginjo was legit the only vilain Ichigo wanted to kill for revenge not to protect anyone.

[@Stanzbey69]

…. It’s like you people choose to watch bleach with your eyes closed

[@marcomilillo2001]

I think the problem were not using your main cast enough and the ending being anticlimatic for Ichigo That aside,it's a very overhated arc

[@MoltenSamurai]

Man, another great one. I honestly love Bleach, or loved Bleach, but it’s mainly all the nostalgia behind it now for me, having watched it all those years ago, and the feeling when I did watch it of just really loving the fight scenes and not paying attention to the story very much. Can definitely see the issues with the writing looking back on it now, but it still remains one of my all time favorites…

[@luckyjohny181]

I reccomend watching DBZimrans videos on Bleach, your nostalgia was not wrong and Bleach's writing is great and underated.

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@luckyjohny181 forget it buddy, super eye patch wolf must be believed cuz he has 1 million subs, and if we defend ourselves, we are toxic.

[@luckyjohny181]

@@theshonenmaster2989 Lol

[@ForestOfSleep]

Ultimately Kubo is a brilliant artist. I love every single one of his designs. He needs a writer to flesh out a narrative so he can focus on drawing cool shit.

[@rukahazuki6650]

I agree with this wholeheartedly. One of the reasons I watched bleach is because of his cool designs.

[@cc6138]

He makes the perfect teen fantasy designs. I'd imagine if he made a vampire manga it'd blow up.

[@wat5058]

He can improve, but at the same time Ulquiorra's character arc exists.

[@twenty-fifth420]

Honestly as a writer, I dont think he is even bad. His arcs and characters (especially early on) have a natural flow and relationship chart that feels more like One Piece where characters have intimate and intertwined stories with one another. And I literally just wrote a villain who is basically a recontexualization of Aizen. And I will say it, Bankai is honestly the best ‘evolution’ of a power system that feels even more natural then Sacred Energy (YYH), Awakening (One Piece), Super Sayain (DBZ) and Reincarnated God Jesus (Naruto) His only fault I think his that he is so creative with characters that he just...makes too god damn many. Somehow, the Soul Society seems to have less screen time then the Real World and that is just a big old boo for me (why make a magical heaven, hell and royal palace not develop it?) Well that one is more general, but the point is some characters in all these locations are only seen sometimes, with Captains being the main focus. (Lieutenants seem to lose prominence unless your name is Renji Abarai). Arrancar are killed off and we don’t care about Fullbringers. Then he made another power system (Kido), then another one (Arrancars), then another (I gave up after trying to figure out Quincies ngl) I sort of think this sort of bloat just blatantly reads as building without going deeper and deeper into the foundation. Honestly I would have been happy with just the Quincies taking Bankai and not having their own abilities to show how very, very serious the arc could be. And I mean that for ALL Bankai users. I dont know, I havent written a multi million dollar franchise so maybe I am full of shit. Tldr: He is not a bad writer, he has a lot of good promise with the social side of story telling, his technical side needs some work and his worldbuilding is...hit or miss. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I basically am part of Aizen’s plan because even I had to make my own Aizen.

[@luckyjohny181]

@@twenty-fifth420 Interesting Take, I agree as well.. to sum up what you're saying even further.. Kubo is a good writer but he made too many good things to juggle.

[@mazimadu]

I have to give it to Kubo, this guy know how to draw Black Anime Characters very well!

[@ark_knight]

Yes, Eyepatch also doesn't mentions those little details. The way the characters are named, and then presented is so top notch. And this anime is in my opinion the only one with most character of color and with most prominent roles. I guess nobody really notices that stuff right away until you are told. Also, lots of female empowerment in Bleach. Which also means waifu material lol.

[@mazimadu]

@@ark_knight you just explained why overwatch waifus are popular, but Charlie's angels/birds of prey are not. Representation != Empowerment

[@ark_knight]

@@mazimadu But Charlie's angel and Brids of Prey are pretty popular? Or atleast the characters are with their respeective audience. Their audience just word it differently instead of calling them waifu or something cringy to them haha. Most female characters were empowered and were holding major plot points in Bleach as well. Even if the damsel in distress trope was also used.

[@mazimadu]

@@ark_knight define "really popular" (cough, box office)

[@ark_knight]

@@mazimadu Like I said, the characters are. For a movie to be popular, there are number of other things too. Hah

[@narvplusextra]

I fully appreciate that Ichigo isn't an active character. In a genre filled with everyone wanting to be The Pirate King, The Hokage, The Wizard King. Ichigo is just a guy that wants to protect his friends. He doesn't desire power, he gets power thrusted upon him and is then required to take responsibility for things that aren't his fault because that's what friends do for their friends. If Ichigo was an Active character with grand desires, this story wouldn't work the way it does. Ichigo's inner struggles would not be the same. The themes wouldn't fit if Ichigo wasn't who Ichigo is. This is explicit in the Aizen fight. You're right he doesn't necessarily have beef with Aizen (except for kidnapping Orihime and killing/threatening the lives of his Father and Friends). That simply fits the theme though, that Ichigo is the type of person to stick his neck out for others and is thrown into situations of responsibility. Something that was shown to us since the very beginning when Ichigo met Chad. I understand that problems do arise from him being a passive character but at the same time it's what makes Bleach feel so radically different from Naruto and One Piece.

[@kelvinallen9327]

For people who say Ichigo is reactive & hates him for that but yet these same people love spider man, batman, superman, etc, they are hyprocrites. 🙏👍

[@gaminginvirinch3339]

​​@@kelvinallen9327 at least those mfs get ditched or have there are variations of these heroes and a timeline each timeline works differently some are just lighthearted and others are brutal. While Kubo tries to make it threatening and gets lighthearted at one he makes Ichigo depressed because Soul Society was stalking him and goes on sucking their d*ck and he doesn't face the actual consequences. Ah yes he faces the consequences the day when his crush was about to be r*ped by Noitora lmao and here I thought Spider was a cuck.

[@jerrysoncallado8709]

Being an active character does not mean having big dreams (like Hokage, Pirate King, etc). Ichigo can be an active character even with a small goal. For example, his goal could be as simple as overcoming the grief of losing his mother. It's not a grand dream like Hokage or Pirate King, but it still makes him an active character. Sure, the story shows Ichigo is trying to cope up with that loss, but it never really fully establishes that it will be Ichigo's long-term journey. The story gives us scenes that suggest it's his journey, but it didn't really establish it fully. In short, Ichigo's character arc should be based on something that he wants to happen (small or big), not on something that happens around him. If the story established that Ichigo's goal is to overcome his grief, then his final battle with Yhwach could've been more emotional. Their opposing ideas about suffering could've been more compelling, where Ichigo accepting that suffering is part of life, while Yhwach straits up rejects the idea of it.

[@narvplusextra]

@jerrysoncallado8709 so what's your point?

[@kelvinallen9327]

@@jerrysoncallado8709 Ichigo is a selfless person, he just wants to protect others, just like superman, spiderman, batman, the avengers, etc. During his life he experienced loss, sadness, fear, deception, etc. Also, his journey is about self discovery, discovering things about himself unintentionally as he lives. Nothings wrong with that. People need to understand, that not because certain animes uses the same theme's like ""rivalry", ""goals"", ""never giving up"", etc, doesnt mean every anime/manga has to be like that. 👍

[@LauraConnolly]

Been rewatching the anime to show my bro for the first time and its so nostalgic for me 🥺- it was the first anime I watched to watch anime, and yeah there's elements that are a little flawed but you can also see how much influence its had over anime or at least the impression of anime 😅

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

I really like this idea of "technical' and "emotional" narratives. Marrying those two things well is the hardest thing about storytelling. Anime obviously tends to focus more on the emotional side, but when you see those arcs that manage to nail something technical in the course of expressing its emotions, it's always the most impressive. Great video!

[@EnzoDraws]

Similarly, this is also what differentiates good blockbusters from bad blockbusters in movies, and it's the reason why Marvel Studios and some DC movies have been doing so well compared to their weaker competitors (Sony, Fox): all companies can be and most of the times ARE tied when it comes to spectacle and big fights, aka "technical" narrative, because the techonlogy is there. But the public has become deeply invested in some of the emotional narratives within them, building a very solid fanbase for let's say Captain America and having no one give a fuck about the last few X-Men movies. A similar thing happens in the shonen genre. Anyone can hire the coolest animator and throw some Sakuga in their show, but emotional narrative and investment in it IS what ultimately makes or breaks the story and keeps people from dropping an action show or manga. The weaving of emotional narrative and character development into very popular action series like Kimetsu no Yaiba and My Hero Academia is a big part of what has made them stupidly popular, and the lack of it is what made Bleach fall.

[@paulgibbon5991]

SEW did a whole video on that ("What Makes A Good Fight Scene?"), and I highly recommend checking it out.

[@EyepatchGamingDE]

*technicle

[@treco911]

I have a good agreement with you I think the perfect situation is when the writer cn strike the right balance this is one of my issues I had with MHA it focuses too heavily on the emotional part which can seem to me a cop out for lack of skills in the technical part

[@UnifiedEntity]

@@EnzoDraws Actually I disagree. You can have the most sappy, built up emotionally driven battle about to go down....but if its executed in a half assed way......what the hell was the point of all the build up? A lack luster fight...is a waste of time. And Ichigo vs Aizen in a technical way.....was lacking. Technicality, brings out the personalities of the characters in the conflict through the fighting style without words. How far they are willingly to go, what they learned, what they lack etc. All through actions. Each blow should have you nearly sweating and or crying....SOMETHING and it should be visually stunning. To say it shortly...you need balance. You cant have this boring ass fight that supposedly had so much emotion backing it up. And you cant have this well animated or choreographed fight for the fuck of it because it will just be....another fight.

[@kaida0enya0kohana]

Hueco Mundo isn't Hell. There's an actual Hell that's never seen in the BLEACH manga. It's more like purgatory so all the sand and desert make sense. Agreed. The Espadas deserved more character development because they each represent a reason a person dies. Barragan was time, Stark was loneliness, Harribel was sacrifice, etc.

[@DeusExIra]

Yo man. We don't talk about that movie. Ever. >.> it was a special film with special thoughts and ideas. We's jes gon` throw it in the cabin with everything else with special ideas.

[@jakesexton3640]

@@DeusExIra what movie? If you mean hell verse it has nothing to do with the comment as hell was literally confirmed to exist in the subsitute arc years before hell verse existed.

[@taterboob]

jake sexton Yeah, this. I had actually forgotten that myself, but I started a rewatch of the series in anticipation of the anime returning recently, and came upon the episode where the Hollow that was a serial killer in life gets pulled into Hell after Ichigo beats him.

[@aurorabash6009]

The hell gates show up In episode 4 had me always thinking why they didn't touch on it so i appreciate the hell verse movie

[@worldkat1393]

@@DeusExIra Except Kubo liked the movie and only showed disappointment that they didn't use all his ideas.

[@HalfbodiedJish]

Thank you so much for clarifying your video with me at the convention! ;)

[@psychsic]

such a great video! bleach was the anime that got me into anime. it was the very first manga i ever had and will always have a special place in my heart. and ugh hallow ichigo will always bring joy to my young edgy heart.

[@TruthOnly142]

Urahara was the most interesting Character in the Bleach Universe and is unexplored both in the manga and this Video.

[@hiroisbak]

Agreed he needed more fights with the arrancar imo

[@rikiishitoru8885]

Mr hat and clogs

[@ArnoModelstate]

Also a bit dissepointed that Shingi couldn't even fight on par with his former Lieutenant after those years with knowing the power type Aizen has. Outside the building when Urahara became a Captain he even undid the camouflage of Aizen with ease.

[@tjl4688]

Urahara had a whole mini arc in Turn Back The Pendulum. Still not enough, but it explains his backstory. Dude still lives to protect humanity against the Hollows, but likely hasn't fully forgiven Soul Society for their betrayal.

[@TheSaival]

have they ever shown urahara bankai after the fullbringer? I dropped the manga there

[@isn0t42]

IT WASN'T A MAGICAL CUP, THAT'S A DIFFERENT MOVIE

[@Den.Vos.Reynaerde]

Yes! Also what is 'omnipient'? It's either 'omniscient' or 'omnipotent'.

[@c-puff]

ib4 "Bleach 8 years later" video which is created solely to address this mistake XD

[@Tizen]

Immediately paused the video to make sure this glaring mistake had been addressed. Thank you.

[@gamezilla345]

all part of the master plan

[@jaypenn491]

Time to remake the video again.

[@last90sdude7]

Happy 20th Year Anniversary BLEACH🎂 Original Release: August 7th, 2001

[@Maleketh42]

As anticlimactic as the fight with Aizen is, I don't think it could have ended any other way. He was built up as such an unstoppable, weakness-free villain that nothing short of a deus ex machina could have ended him. That lack of weakness also makes him pretty uninteresting to see in action, and I think is a big contributing factor to why the series went downhill so sharply after the Soul Society arc.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

At that point the blame lies with the writer/kubo for doing so. Writing a villain you can't kill off appropriately is an issue that needs to be corrected. Naruto fell to the same problem with Madera, where kishmoto has to pull a last minute villain out of his ass to kill off Madara. With the extended family of that last minute ass pull now being the main evil force for the sequel series Boruto, ugh.

[@Joshpower57]

Eh, my favorite arc was the espada arc. People love soul society and I get that it has good moments, but they aren't great. The espada arc had a lot of those moments on a way higher dosage. Aizens point of the arc where he activates the hogyoku was where the arc started to have down parts, but reading the manga and having the part where Ichigo grabs him by the face was amazing to read at the time. The end of the fight wasn't great, but it fit the story.

[@alexisbaz8746]

I liked the Arrancar Ark and the fake Karakura Arc more, and the way Aizen was defeated was good to me, it was anti climatic and the FGT comes out of nowhere but Ichigo ended paying a huge price for that and I liked that Ichigo wasn't able to beat him by himself (for those that say Ichigo is an invincible dude that never lose). People who say SS was the last good arc probably didn't watch anything else or they need to get all details sponfeded.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

You can't beat someone like Aizen by making him look powerful. Narratively it sends the wrong message. It just shows he was right. You have to make him utterly powerless. And that's how you really defeat him. Prove him wrong in a fundamental way.

[@Stanzbey69]

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZeronot remotely the same. Aizens character arc wasn’t even finished and kubo had well defined plans for him. Get your information right

[@MahiMahi-yu5jo]

I have many problems with Bleach. But the art was never one of it. Tite Kubo has created some of the most memorable character designs of all time (if you ignore the overabundance of mammary organs...).

[@MaestroSangurasu]

What are the problems ????? Stop underestimate Bleach for nothing

[@Eden.FB15]

Fan service wasn't as high as the other HST

[@planatano_]

@Maestro Flo I haven’t read the manga but the two biggest problems are the arc structure and lore. As much as I like the Bleach lore it does get boring, that’s just me tho. The arc structure is horrible, every time an arc ends the universe just goes back to normal. Of course the Art of the Shinagami arc and the Soul Society: The Sneak Entry arc are great but after that the story has layers of plot armor and is just repetitive. After finishing the anime and the movies including filler I read the 1,000 Year Blood War arc and it was just as good as the first two arcs. I still love Bleach with my heart and soul, I love the character designs I love Ichigo and Aizen also btw the main cast gets really stale and the piccolo affect literally happens to everyone except Ichigo. I imagine by this comment you’re a Bleach fan boy like me but just except every story has flaws, you may think these critics are stupid and I respect that but don’t say it’s hated on for no reason that’s just ignorant. TLDR; As much as I love Bleach, watch the anime and the filler, watched the movies and read the 1,000 Year Blood War arc it’s not perfect, every story has flaws you may think that it has different flaws than I said, but it still has flaws so no it’s not hated on for no reason

[@MaestroSangurasu]

@@planatano_ I don't know if you're talking about the story but you're wrong there is still a mystery that it is about the universe on the characters for example Ichigo "arc end universe goes to back to normal " ok and ? There is not a problem Repetitive ? there are other shonen where it is repetitive and yet no one says anything

[@planatano_]

@Maestro Flo I just told you that we have different opinions on the flaws of the story. You were crying about people hating on it for no reason I just told you why some people have problems with it you may not agree with me but the story has problems just accept that.

[@josephmcilroy9872]

7:04 it was the Arc of the Covenant that melted his face off, the holy grail was in the other film. I'll await your corrected video in 4 years time.

[@keithr.4645]

😂

[@jessvi8971]

I like this level of pettiness, 10/10

[@MrSquinterCell]

FOOL! THAT MISTAKE WAS INTENTIONAL SO THAT HE COULD CREATE A NEW-

[@Loyde06]

Huum, technically the "not" Graal did melt someone head off. You could say this was the wrong clip.

[@hexxerman7656]

Yo this shit is so funny.

[@Abridgimation]

This video got me to start watching Bleach a month ago, almost finished with the Soul Society Arc and I'm so glad I picked up on it, it's some of the best shonen I've enjoyed, Ichigo is a fun MC and Rukia is best girl, unarguably.

[@apathicmiko6546]

I think the Hollow Arc had a solid story despite the repetitions in structure with the Soul Society Arc was because the "Hollow Society" was build by Aizen by taking Soul Society as a template base, Hueco Mundo is a vast desert place where evil spirits linger, there's no social structure, the strong feed of the weaker and any kind of camaraderie is just by necessity (with few exception of course, like Nell and Hallibel taking care of their own), Hollow society is that, a hollow place that is the exact opposite of Soul Society, the Espada barely have any relationship with each other, unlike the Captains, and the Arrancars, because of their inner emptiness, have forgoten most of their past, that's why there's barely any flashbacks to explain their motivation and personalities.

[@kelvinallen9327]

Its very interesting, he talked about repitition, as if it had a bad impact on the series. Grimjow & renji are hot headed, but unique. Nell transforming is different from Youruichi transforming. Not forgetting both transformation were sexy. Kubo possibly did that as a tease for us 😂. Kyoraku fighting 3 characters that uses guns. Its possible, Kubo just did those things to mess with the characters, and to be funny. Like hitsugaya, always getting Slash to his side 😂. Yamamooto always getting tricked into losing. Ichigo always getting manipulated by ( Aizen, Ginjo, Yuwach) 😂. These things dont affect Bleach in any way. The series is & will forever be Great. Dont forget, Naruto, Jiraya, & Obito are so so so so so so so different ? 😂. There team mates are so so so different 😂? Their rivals were all prodigies ( kakashi, orochimaru & sauske) 😂🤣?. These things dont affect the shows in any bad way. 👍

[@Mohamad_Fikri]

this

[@Donnel4]

The biggest flaw of this video is saying that the guy get's his face melted off by a cup in Indiana Jones

[@ranadapolite4599]

Doesn't he?

[@fernandoc5536]

@@ranadapolite4599 the magical cup was another movie, the face-melting was due to the Nazis opening the Ark of the Covenant-i.e. God's nuke from the Bible.

[@HighHemplar]

@@ranadapolite4599 The ark is suppose to contain the original tablets with the ten commandments not the Holy Grail.

[@LAnite430]

He also called Yammamoto Yamato

[@heartofdawnlight]

@@fernandoc5536 boxes are just cups for bigger people

[@andrzejsugier]

34:40 Acctually, the fact that the Arrancar Arc was the best selling arc in the history of Bleach is reflective of a very common occurence in serialized media - stories/sequels that come AFTER the best parts of the story are the most popular, because so many people were talking/enjoying the story before. It also works the other way round - the LEAST popular instalments are those AFTER those that were actually the worst, because of how dissapointed people are. The quality of the laters stories is largely irrelevant, there's certain inertia to popularity.

[@sonicboomers122]

Case in Point Star Wars. I don't care about your opinions on the quality of Last Jedi after the Last Jedi Solo Bombed and Rise of Skywalker struggled to crack a Billion. Way down from the 2 Billion The Force Awakens pulled.

[@daubeny2911]

@@sonicboomers122 Solo was really bad and it's marketing terribly done tough. And The Last Jedi made a lot less money than The Force Awakens too ("only" 1 billon 300 millions, which is way less that the 2 millions of The Force Awakens), a lot of people were already disappointed by The Force Awaken. No matter if you think of it as better or less good than The Last Jedi, it's still miles away from the original trilogy, or even the prequels. Also Rise Of The Skywalker was terrible, I think we can all agree on that.

[@Dogy0909]

That makes sense. I remember my last favorite Bleach moment was Byakuya’s backstory stuff, and then the arrancars came and I don’t really care for any of those characters and the story got very bogged down.

[@fpedrosa2076]

This is also common with sequels. If a game or movie is really good and becomes popular, the sequel usually does REALLY well. In the other hand, if a game or movie is garbage, it's usually the sequel to that garbage that pays the price. Even when said sequel is much better than the original.

[@Manganization]

You're kinda right, but in Bleach's case, no. There's a reasonable romanticism with the Soul Society arc but manga volumes aren't sold in one go like movies. The Arrancar Arc was the most popular arc because it was the most well-received one. People act like Bleach went downhill after Soul Society only in retrospect due to their dissatisfaction with the resolution of Aizen's defeat. The arc itself was fine.

[@jasonmartel854]

Gin actually successfully backstabbing Aizen, but therefore leading to the high rank arrancar no longer being stopped (and ramping them up to be a bit more of a threat) would have been an interesting way to tilt it with more backstory for the arrancar, and you could actually get more use of showing mercy in the hueco mundo arc (and bring Nel back as more relevant long term aspect). And yeah, it probably should have just ended after Aizen's defeat. If you want spinoffs, then prequel stuff (founding of soul society, spinoff of what the exiled group were doing between exile and start of the show, etc) could probably work just fine (and you could do a fullbringer spinnoff if you wanted them as characters even).

[@SGVB22]

I love the side by side comparison and how similar the show is

[@kelvinallen9327]

Its very interesting, he talked about repitition, as if it had a bad impact on the series. Grimjow & renji are hot headed, but unique. Nell transforming is different from Youruichi transforming. Not forgetting both transformation were sexy. Kubo possibly did that as a tease for us 😂. Kyoraku fighting 3 characters that uses guns. Its possible, Kubo just did those things to mess with the characters, and to be funny. Like hitsugaya, always getting Slash to his side 😂. Yamamooto always getting tricked into losing. Ichigo always getting manipulated by ( Aizen, Ginjo, Yuwach) 😂. These things dont affect Bleach in any way. The series is & will forever be Great. Dont forget, Naruto, Jiraya, & Obito are so so so so so so so different ? 😂. There team mates are so so so different 😂? Their rivals were all prodigies ( kakashi, orochimaru & sauske) 😂🤣?. These things dont affect the shows in any bad way. 👍

[@stealthmonkeydc2869]

I liked Hueco Mundos style. The fact that its en empty, barren wasteland represents how empty hollows are themselves.

[@lureyourpery5569]

That was the point of it wont mak senes if it tree or water or sunlight it would of taking away how the place is meant to feel

[@stephonmanny7555]

@@lureyourpery5569 I think you misunderstood what he's saying. The problem he had with it is the same problem he had with the soul society it underdeveloped.

[@fendelphi]

@@stephonmanny7555 And somewhat forgotten once they get "inside". I mean, sure, it made for a different visuals and all, but eventually it does not even matter since they fight inside or on top of roofs. It does make drawing backgrounds much easier though, so props for coming up with a visual style that helps you cut down on the details. I am saying this unironically. I really think it is brilliant in that sense.

[@stephonmanny7555]

@@fendelphi Nothing wrong with being simple. It just plain and for me a bit disappointing. I mean if he wanted it to look like old school Japan that find; I mean it worked with other shows. What I'm saying is the world building isn't strong. Think about it like this if we brought magic like in Bleach to our world it would change everything.

[@BlackHedgehog]

As someone who still loves Bleach, I know it's faults. Kind of why I hope the new anime is used to really expand the final arc, will it? Probably not.

[@themrmezbah]

I think it will.

[@Erebus-PCFX]

Kubo said he will rewrite the whole arc for the anime because it was not representative of what he wanted to convey. I have hope.

[@muhammadsami6447]

@@Erebus-PCFX did he really said that please tell me and where he said that

[@princebrilliano]

@@Erebus-PCFX lol show proof, don’t just say things like this, like bs

[@artisticcannibalism1350]

@@Erebus-PCFX I hope you're right because no amount of expansion could ever save that dumpster fire.

[@MoontouchedOwlBeast]

Now hyped to know what Super Eyepatch Wolf will think of TYBW. Hope he makes a review.

[@theshonenmaster2989]

he'll never do it and I don't think he should.

[@somuchforyouz0rz]

I liked that you started off this video explaining your fault and apologising, that's a noble action to take and speaks volumes about your character. You're one of my favourite KZbinrs, thank you for all that you do!

[@thedevilgoose2482]

“Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies We got our dirty *star fingahs* in everybody’s pies.”

[@Greil9]

Tiny mistake, but the part where they revealed the lieutenants and captains had a power limiter on them during Karakuro Town battles was explained way before that time. It was back when Ichigo fought Renji in Soul Society, as he explained this limitation to show why the fight was even despite Ichigo kicking Renji's ass in their first fight and only having gotten stronger since. Does not change the larger criticism or even in that case where it's "We're losing, but we get power up and then win".

[@nahuel3433]

It does considering 99% of what he mentioned has similar issues. Like Kenapchi using a sword with both hands is a deus ex machina now? Really? It's like saying that the guy that had his hand tied behinds his back deciding to untie it is a deus ex machina. But others too. We knew all high ranking soul reapers had Shikai and some Bankai. So claiming that them using those things we knew they had a high chance of having (hell most of the time we had the certainty) being a deus ex machina is so stupid. Or claiming deus ex machina when we see abilities from people's whose abilities we knew nothing about. Like Yoruichi's shunko (which she shows off after her opponent, who is explicitly her student also)

[@note4note804]

To be clear, the reason its called a star finger problem instead of a deus ex problem is because despite previous info, it's sudden and perfectly suited to grant someone the solution. Technically tons of Stands have multiple powers and we see with the prior Stands in that arc that thats true, so by those arguments star finger is equally not a "deus ex", but it is deeply unsatisfying.. The fact that the shikais, bankais and limiter releases are always perfect solutions to the problems presented is the issue, not that the lore doesn't hint that such a thing could exist.

[@nahuel3433]

@@note4note804 Except they don't? Like how is Shunko any perfect solution that punching harder isn't? And all powerups make you punch harder in Bleach. Same with most of the examples. Hell thee Kenpachi example is literally just cut harder, not even a power up

[@looniemoonie5955]

@@nahuel3433 I'm pretty sure it's just poor wording. You didn't get the point of his argument and just nitpicking. SEW talks about outsmarting your opponent and coming up with strategy, not pulling NEW AWESOME POWER out of your ass. Any idiot could do that. There's nothing special about it. Yes, obviously, we knew about shikais and bankais. But boy, isn't it convent that they can pull this off *the exact moment* they need it? What if Kenpachi *haven't* achieved his Bankai? Dead. Ichigo's training still didn't let him to reach the power level needed to defeat Aizen? Dead. What if Mayuri would be *serious* in his fight against Ishida? Pulling *stronger* Bankai or Nemu betting his ass like she did with God's Hand? Oh boy he was dead. I think SEW should have compared Bleach fights to Naruto ones. Yes they are obviously Bleach-like fights when Gaara's team arrives very conviently, just in time to save Konoha boys, or Choji eating dangerous pills to become stronger which were NEVER mentioned before, but let's look at good ones, for example, Naruto vs Neji. If Naruto turned into Nine-Tails Fox, would it be Deus Ex Machina? No, of course not. It was stated at the very first chapter, we know about this power. It could have been pretty cool if Naruto, pretty desperate to win, broke his seal and showed this arrogant asshole what real power tastes like. But I really liked what Kishimoto does in this battle- Naruto *outsmarts* his opponent using the same very technique any child knows about. This fight was never about he's more powerful, it always was about hard work *can* beat talent. It was about "if you're just lucky to be born with talent it doesn't mean you're better than everyone else". Do you see what I'm talking about?

[@LupineShadowOmega]

@@nahuel3433 and we even get fun subversions later, like when Askin asks Urahara what his Bankai does and Urahara refuses to explain. Or even if we are talking about "power ups" his problem with the Aizen fight, that ignores a critical bit of information that we are given regarding Aizen's supposed reality warping powers. And that is that said power is about granting one's heart's desire. And that comes back both emotionally and thematically in Ichigo crushing Aizen. Aizen was always powerful, like Ken before him, too powerful to live in normal society. Unlike Ken who wanted to be weaker, Aizen wanted others to be strong. So he gets his real wish and only realizes it right at the end. "Someone else is stronger than me."

[@tvbuu]

first season of bleach and the 2nd up to the 3rd were my favorite. Being a kid and seeing the first intro used to blow me away.

[@Blackflame-jl7pf]

I wonder if supereyepatch wolf will make a part 3 and call it "the rise of bleach" since the anime did come back literally a day ago! Lol. First episode was fantastic, let's see how the rest of the series is though. I guess if he'll like it enough he may make a video..or perhaps it's in the works! If not it'll be worth a revisit 😁 fall anime is gonna be extremely incredible this year anyways, perhaps the best season of anime yet. So looking forward to it if anything!

[@theshonenmaster2989]

he won't, cuz he has an ego and a op stanism

[@SinHurr]

Greetings from the future! TYBW so far is rad as hell.

[@muhammadabuzarkhan7450]

I swear to God people will start spamming it was all Aizen's plan.

[@Msoulwing]

That's just what Chair-sama wants you to think.

[@luckyjohny181]

Well it was part of Aizen's plan.

[@OptimusOmega6]

29:00 "95% male models shooting ghosts at each other" is my new favourite description of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

[@RyanFribble]

But why male models?

[@partridgeluke]

@@RyanFribble i see what you did there

[@RyanFribble]

@@renmcmanus but why male models?

[@joshshrum2764]

OptimusOmega It really made me laugh.

[@joshshrum2764]

Ryan Fredericks Because they look like hunks and things would probably be different if they didn’t fight each other.

[@NikoOneShotDad]

You're a great person, personally, Bleach is my favorite work of fiction, it brings me so much joy. I'm glad that you're such a respectful person, I respect your opinion as well and I'm very glad to see people being able to share their feelings and opinions freely while respecting others' thoughts as well.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Soul Society as an afterlife is honestly just confusing. Rukia compassionately reassures a plus that he'll go to an afterlife, where you still have to struggle to survive and can still starve to death/be murdered. What's the point lmao?

[@ricremricrem2221]

You can't starve to death unless you actively use your spiritual pressure like a Soul Reaper. Literally only a Soul Reaper can starve to death a normal plus can't and doesn't need to eat

[@AryanSingh-yy9mw]

@@ricremricrem2221 then why were Rukia and her friends stealing food everyday?

[@ricremricrem2221]

@@AryanSingh-yy9mw Cuz their ass was using their sp to try and become soul reapers oh and I was mistaken in something you can eat as a plus it just isn't necessary to do so.

[@theshonenmaster2989]

@@ricremricrem2221 there's even a chapter when rukia says to renji let's become soul reapers

[@Lonestarz95]

I've always liked the big 3 equally, thats why I always get sad when Bleach gets the shit end of the stick most of the time. Kubo, Oda, and Kishimoto were inspired by different aspects of Toriyama's DBZ and decided to not only make their own story, but completely reshape the Manga industry into what we call the Modern Era. They all defined an entire generation of people. Regardless of the art, story or characterization, most of us stuck through to the end.

[@Sammy-bi9fj]

Fr

[@antimatter3084]

And we Togashi fans get stuck in literal hiatus hell

[@talkinghoorse6936]

@@antimatter3084 Same with Miura fans.

[@wallstreetzoomer]

Naruto is better than the other 2.

[@rashotcake6945]

Even being a mediocre manga artist/writer requires a lot of talent, because you need to be really good at both drawing and writing, and hard working enough to do that week after week for years

[@ProjectThunderclaw]

What confuses me most about where Bleach went is how it starts out being so much about the dangers of unjust hierarchies, exemplified in the Soul Society arc by a focal villain so blinded by his devotion to "duty" that he kills indiscriminately to _make sure_ his beloved sister gets executed for a ridiculous non-crime, and an organization so morally bankrupt it employs a sadistic murder clown to torture people to death for the crime of defending themselves against literal monsters. And then they just. Become good guys? As soon as the tyrannical regime goes back on the one thing that made the protagonists angry in the first place, the tyrants get to become supporting heroes. And the goal of every villain from then on is to destroy Soul Society, which the protagonists are now prepared to defend with their lives despite the fact that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS CHANGED to make it anything but a genocidal military dictatorship. They even keep bringing up the atrocities the Soul Reapers have _and continue to_ engage in, but for some reason we're just supposed to accept it now? The series should have ended with Soul Society burnt to the fucking ground and something better rising from the ashes, not a glitzy "look how far they've come~" wide shot of a ruling council that still includes KUROTSUCHI FUCKING MAYURI

[@mija3203]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@JakeEnglishVS]

Do you have discord? This is a great take and I want to pick your brain on further parallels

[@ravex367]

“Unjust hierarchies” never thought I’d see another comrade in an anime channel.

[@flatsnark2516]

It IS important to remember that the Soul Society didn't just represent a flawed system. It was a society that committed moral and interpersonal injustices for the sake of the greater good. While they were presented as antagonists for the purpose of the arc, and overall the story did push the narrative that moral justice couldn't just be abandoned for the sake of the greater good, they were still ultimately protecting the world by maintaining the imbalance of souls and preventing hollows from devouring humans en masse. I haven't dug into the entire story in a while, but if I recall correctly, there are points later on when it is implied that the Soul Society has loosened up on its immoral rules, and this is definitely reflected in the growth of a lot of the early captains we're introduced to. Mayuri is actually a good example, since by the time you reach the final arc, he's doing some of the most good out of the cast (saving Kenpachi and the others from Squad 11, reviving the literal dead, showing more compassion towards Nemu.) You see this in other characters like Soifon and her softening attitude over the course of the story, Byakuya in his growing compassion towards Rukia and when he actually claims he's taking Zommari down for the sake of personal justice (protecting Rukia) rather than legal obligation - not to mention when he literally begs Ichigo, the result of something that was previously considered a grave crime by his organisation, to save the Soul Society in his stead. Even the Central 46 seem to get phased out of authority once Shunsui takes over as captain commander and pretty much explicitly acts against them in training Kenpachi.

[@ProjectThunderclaw]

@@flatsnark2516 but that's even worse. Framing such a fundamentally evil organization as merely flawed, forced to do awful things "for the greater good" - that's how people actually justify real-world atrocities. Mayuri is again the perfect example. As you say, he does some good things during the Thousand Year Blood War, but he also wholesale slaughters 28000 innocent Rukongai denizens to "maintain balance", which he gets pushback over but doesn't ultimately suffer any consequences for. So either we're stanning an organization where the unnecessary mass murder of tens of thousands is a slap-on-the-wrist kind of offense, or Kubo Tite has bent himself backwards to create a situation where the mass murder of tens of thousands is necessary and morally justified, neither of which reflects particularly well on the series. (Also, acknowledging that he "does good" kind of requires us to once again assume that "good" is synonymous with "defending Soul Society", which uh I don't really agree with)

[@saltine9692]

This video really hurt, because I think that it was absolutely correct, and it pains me to admit it. To me, the reason I love Bleach so much is not only because it was my first anime and that I grew up with it, but the fact that throughout the entire series I think it captures the feeling of constantly struggling and overcoming. To me, when I’m going through some hopeless existential bullshit, the thought of Ichigo just kinda saying “to hell with that!!” And overcoming his opponent helps me keep going forward. To me, not only is the art so gorgeous, but it’s also radically different than most anime I’ve ever seen. Lastly, I do agree with this video, that is true. However, I have always felt that Bleach was the type of anime that you find yourself rooting for the main character so much that you totally forgive all the moments of Deus Ex Machina because you just want to see the next battle. Fantastic video, and extremely fair. I will always put bleach as my #1 anime, but I think I can still agree with Eyepatch Wolf when he says that there was so much opportunity that was missed out on

[@jackfranklin1185]

I would certainly agree that the end of Aizens arc was very disappointing. I could have accepted ichigo helping everyone else to win together, but the way he won by himself, and how Aizen got so sloppy at the end seemed badly done

[@kelvinallen9327]

Ichigo did not win by himself, Aizen was defeated by ichigo weakening him, but thanks to Urahara too, Aizen was sealed. Everyone tried and failed. Aizen did many wicked things, so him getting all worked up at the end just shows that he used his intelligence wickedly , he was always ahead and now he is left with great shock and dissapointment. If kubo repeats what kishi, or tabata, or toriyama, etc does then people will say "" look he is copying them"" . Bleach is unique. Also, that isn't the end for Aizen, he will make more appearences in the series and fight too. 👍

[@nobledrew23]

A big issue I had with Bleach despite it being such an influential anime in my life is that the souls society arc brings up a lot of criticism of how the soul society is run and there are hints of more issues with the soul society in later arcs but it doesn’t use these criticisms and issues to evolve the world of Bleach. Kubo had so much potential in the setting that he didn’t utilize.

[@vcamv2354]

Cause the development of Soul Society was not important for the series. And again, a big part of it, was cause Aizen was controlling and manipulating them to be more punitive. We saw Soul Society cruel, Ichigo came, they changed a little, and we still have the Novel who explore Soul Society more. People today get so hung up on worldbuilding and Character development, but not always you need a world to be fully explored if it makes sense, and f the narrativa can hold up without exploring every inch of the world

[@Mattznick]

100% this

[@nancy-xm2ig]

Yea soul society is so weird to me. I think it wasn't planned enough honestly.burn the witch explains the setting a little more but like now im confused about reverse London 😐 (dosent mean I want them to crossover)

[@vcamv2354]

@@nancy-xm2ig Reverse londom will have it's time to shine since the series will contie. And yeah, in the end, Soul Society left some questions unanswered like, why people still got to be poor as fuck even afterlife? And, if people go there with no memories of life, how could Rukia could lie to the parrot kid about him seeing his mother? haha But, I think Soul Society worked well as the proper background and what was explored of it was good enough

[@quadeevans6484]

@@vcamv2354 the problem kubo potrayed was that soul society was only able to be manipulated because nobody questioned the system and aizen merely took advantage of it, it goes much deeper than that

[@mercedesmarxist294]

"I would let Grimmjow buy me a drink" is probably the most relatable thing I've ever heard lmao

[@MyNameCinema]

First off, I'm a massive Bleach fan! Admittedly, I put off watching this video for months now every time it pooped up in my recommendations. I thought it would just be another person hating on the series just to hate on it, rather than taking everything about it into account, only focusing on the negatives of the series. However, I'm glad I took the time to finally listen to all of your points, because I was wrong. I actually really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and agree with all of them to be completely honest. It doesn't degrade my love for what was and is one of my favorite series of all time due to growing up with it. It was the first major anime I got obsessed with and I feel propelled me into anime more so than DBZ did as a whole. It opened my eyes to subbed anime being so good once used to just reading it due to the emotion behind it. Although I still enjoy dubbed as well xD More recently I have been hyped to see the anime return and in anticipation I read the final arc, which opened up the world of manga to me. My point is, I absolutely adore Bleach and therefore have my own bias towards it. Having said that, I appreciated your approach in this video despite having lots of negatives to say about it and risking being hated on lol. It wasn't just the negatives though, you pointed out the best things about it too. You took the time to have a justified opinion that honestly can't be refuted, it's true that Bleach fell off for a ton of fans. I did like the video and subscribe though, despite my love for the series. Mainly because I can't necessarily disagree with your points haha, they're valid. Personally I loved the Aizen battle when I first saw it and for years thought it was the most bad-ass thing in Bleach, but looking back I did start to see where it fell short and happened too quickly instead of being more thought out and take it's time to pay off the build up that lead to it. Sorry for the really long comment here lol, but I do hope you read it all since I want you to know that even us obsessive fans can see the flaws in Bleach, and we appreciate people like you who have an open mind to not only your own opinions but others as well. Keep up the great work and I will definitely be watching some of your other content now :)

[@deshaunfortune912]

I have been bothered by the fact that we never see Ichigo use his sword like a sickle and chain my entire life!

[@Jon155mt]

Bro what?? Lmao he doesn’t need to do that. Isn’t there another shinigami who does that anyway? I can’t think of his name but I know there’s another guy who does that already

[@ez_is_bloo]

@@Jon155mt shuhei

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

@@Jon155mt because it would be sick. When white uses it that way it's one of the coolest internal moments, and the show at least (I haven't read the manga) makes a big show of pointing that out and it just goes nowhere.

[@shironage]

we did for a SLIGHT moment in soul society

[@davidthewaffle7673]

He does use it he when he goes to save rukia though...

[@NickNitro]

49:55 that was some 4th dimensional chess there, gg.

[@engineerxero7767]

Oh hey, didn't expect to see you here

[@pentelegomenon1175]

some Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's there

[@chestercastaneda4920]

Yeah, that's one way of calling it.

[@nickman287]

I thought he was going to say "spreading this video around za warudo!" Rather than the world

[@zirotsero6951]

well L is in his name what a super genius, this was all going according to his plan that he instigated right from the start where he secretly planted L in his name as a reference to deathnote's L, hinting at his master plan, how could we not have noticed that this was the true intended meaning behind his name all along and was clearly planned form the very beginning

[@imperialspy7204]

What makes ichigo different from some protagonists is that his problems and growth aren't external, he doesn't train to improve his skills and he feels like he unlocks a unexpected power up. He goes through this process because ichigo is just a teenager trying to control a power bigger than himself and he goes through those power ups because he is slowly understanding his power and himself. Also although the weight of aizen and ichigo isn't that heavy on a emotional level, however narratively it has a lot of dept. First of all, its very ironic that the man who is gonna transcend gets stopped by the man that made him complete his plants. Secondly there's the classic shonen 'the hero must defeat the villain to save others'. Lastly ofc both loses their power. To counteract the full bring arc depiction, yes the main point is to restore Ichigo's power but there's a bigger picture that i comprehended. Ichigo originally stated that he only wanted to protect his friends but when he lost the power he felt like something was missing so when he heard that theres people that had a means to restore his power his took the opportunity. At first he declined this tendency wanted to get back his power but he came back to it, he later finds out that he want to hold his position his responsibility as a soul reaper to protect the people. However his desperation for power was the reason why the villains were winning, and the cool part was that when ichigo thought he lost everything, he got his powers back by the people he saved using his power. Lastly one point that tybw does weird is Ichigo's position in that story. At that point of the story, narratively ichigo is just a side character, and it also same thing for the arrancar arc. Remember that ichigo is literally just a factor in someone else's world. He is a side character in the feud with kisuke and aizen, and is a another side character in yhwach and ichibei's world however that doesn't mean ichigo isn't boring, he's just facing internal problems and trying to protect the one's he love.

[@PirateKingBoros]

Anyone back here after TYBW episode 1?

[@SuperDanteF]

The man's face did not melt from a cup. It was from Ark of the Covenant. You need to make another video now. Edit: You beautiful bastard.

[@casulgamer1499]

FOOL! YOU FELL EXACLTY INTO HIS TRAP!

[@sinom]

He said he'd do the next one on another 8 years. That's why he purposefully added errors

[@SuperDanteF]

@@casulgamer1499 WHAT A FOOL I AM!!!

[@SuikoRyos]

"Hueco Mundo is like Hell" *Hell Verse:* Am I a joke to you?

[@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151]

I think Hueco Mundo is more like a purgatory.

[@yadajoku]

@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 i can see that. The setting of Hueco Mundo is all Grey and desert like, but not complete bullshit and hell. Hollows are forever doomed to climb the hierarchy, but there's no genuine punishment. As implied by the name, its literally just a hollow world

[@victorsantos4531]

@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 Hueco Mundo actually is the Violence and Animal Realm of Budhism mitology

[@kakashihatake6052]

@@victorsantos4531 have you rea d bleach manga? A beast realm is mentioned more than a time, Man people are actually biased about bleach, I do agree with some of his points about background, plot hole, power scaling but this man directly states that bleach is bad so people buyed 120 million volum e of bad manga? Bleach is good bro, not best Hxh, jojo, code geass, fma, attack on titan. Demon slayer has very simple story yet eyepatch does not make a video on it bleach fans are very unsupportive overall and complai n when a character dies and doesnt, when kubo create a character development arc and when he create action packed arc, Its easy to attack bleach fans, Yes it has flaws but it is not baD Natuto is not bad because of just its war arc

[@victorsantos4531]

@@kakashihatake6052 I've read Bleach manga over 50 times. Again, being OBJECTIVE, Bleach is a good written manga with flaws I never sad I think Bleach is bad and I don1t have bias about it. And Naruto is bad cause of the whole history and plotholes, lack of planning, lack of development, not just the awar arc as you said. And his point about Background, plot hole and power scalling are some of the worst nes, specially the background one! The guy's saying a literal art technique of enhancing character expressions is bad just cause he doenst' lke it! Bleach has basically no plotholes also. And man, I support Bleach! I hate the free hate ad bias eople have about it. I'm just saying, its a good written manga, it's better written than Naruto even