The Fall of Silvermoon - Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos - Path of the Damned 5/8

[@SNBgames]

My favorite part of this mission has always been grabbing the elf worker and then making human heroes so Arthas isn't alone heh

[@mickcraftgaming]

Oh wow, I didn't even think about building an Alter of Kings! That would be crazy. I wonder if a Ranger could be built.

[@SNBgames]

@@mickcraftgaming No rangers, but the hero cap limit is broken so you can get as many as you want. I get two of each.

[@mickcraftgaming]

@@SNBgames no way! I need to try this.

[@TheVivalajady]

Imagine the smell you are controlling Mick MMMM that good smell 😂😂 - For the scourge 💀

[@mickcraftgaming]

The Scourge presses on with death and decay!

[@kennethaninon6913]

the Runners quest is very tricky, in Hard mode, you have to kill the Runners fast, as the time limit before the High Elves sent another Runner to Silvermoon in Hard mode is very short (meaning they'll quickly send another Runner)

[@mickcraftgaming]

Yes it kept my gargoyles on high alert in this mission!!

[@kennethaninon6913]

@@mickcraftgaming yes, as long as you kept them alive, since you can't train them in the beginning of this mission (because Gargoyles require Black Citadel)

[@cattrucker8257]

Funny that the HIGH Elf footman doesn't have 420 health. It's honestly both hilarious and cool that you can take over the elf peasants and, conceivably, fight Silvermoon with mostly or exclusively elf/faux-elf faction forces. Perhaps that little thing played a small part in inspiring the whole "a few elf traitors" bit that tie-in comics later invented and TBC than put into WoW canon. Technically the first time we can play Dragonhawks, and a preview of Archers 1.5 campaigns ahead of Night Elves! I miss when RTSes (and games in general) used to do this sort of fun "yes, you can" thing.

[@mickcraftgaming]

@cattrucker8257 hahaha, yeah not so high after all 😂🤣 I may play back through this mission and take down Silvermoon exclusively with Elf forced and Human Heroes 😂🤣

[@DCPTF2]

This mission is great and honestly i feel like the last good Undead mission in the game BackRock and Roll 2 feels like a you vs AI mission and the Dalaran missions are rather dull. However one thing i want to talk about is how even back in the day this map confused me as a kid, for the entire time you are traveling to Silvermoon you are going upward (even on the map) however the actual mission starts you at the top of the map rather then the bottom, my young brain could never work out what was happening it was like we went passed Silvermoon then had to double back so we ended up at the top of the map, Reforged fixed this though so that was always good. Another fun story is as a kid i always used to end up getting the Gargoyles killed either by towers for forgetting about them so i would have to chase down the runners manually every time. The Sunwell being a fountain in WC3:C is kinda a good a laugh looking back at it, this massive super important thing that in Later WoW lore is either in the middle of a island all by itself or at the top of a massive spire now in modern WoW as so much importance that the best the old devs could do is make it a reused asset, i honestly wonder why that is, after all the Book of Mediv got it's own asset (later reused) but the Sunwell this massive plot point is a generic fountain asset, also this could me being nostalgic but i remember it being bigger It's also interesting how Dragonhawk riders got their own voice lines even before the Frozen Throne addon, because as far as i can remember they where not a buildable unit for the Alliance which i think plays into the idea that the Elves would have been a fully playable faction in Skirmish as most other none buildable units don't really have voice lines unless they are reused ones like how the Elf Village is just the Peasant. Also this is just me but Sylvanas's old death in a random Village as a side quest you can do is much better then how Reforged made it a mandatory part of the game by making it just the Warbringers trailer which i feel takes away a bit from the story, rather then Arthas going out of his way to rid himself of Sylvanas he just has to kill her on the way into the city (though it does kinda make it cannon he does kill her in TFT anyway)

[@mickcraftgaming]

I could barely remember Black Rock and Roll Too and I remember hating the Dalaran missions haha You're definitely right, they got the orientation all wrong on this map. Chasing down the runners would be annoying, glad I made it happen with the Gargoyles. Poor Sunwell, perhaps they just ran out of time for a custom asset. I think the Dragonhawk riders were being prepped as a playable unit already. If I recall correctly, one of their voice lines in RoC is "I'll have an even bigger roll in the expansion pack!" I think they just changed Sylvanas for continuity with The Frozen Throne. I agree though!

[@maximakulov3118]

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[@mickcraftgaming]

👍🏻 thanks for watching!!!

[@Canuovea]

Okay, so... why does Silvermoon need to get a runner before realizing you're here? Is Sylvanas so incompetent that during this whole thing she didn't think to tell Silvermoon about the Undead before they were right outside the gates? Silvermoon is a cool name, though. One of the few that would probably sound better in English than, say, Tolkien's Sindarin. Celeb = silver or "of silver" would be Celevon (apparently), and Ithil means moon, so. Eh. Maybe better in Quenya, which has several different "silver"s. Silma-isil might be one of the better ones, thought that would be more like Silver, shining bright-moon. Silvery grey would be sinde-isil, sindehisil? Or Telemna/Telempsa + Isil. Anyway. I digress. Is it just me, or do the "Glaive Throwers" actually still fire ballista projectiles? Ugh, Frozen Throne's fault, I'm sure.

[@mickcraftgaming]

Sylvanas is laughably incompetent during this campaign. She doesn't take the threat seriously at all and even tells Arthas how to enter Silvermoon. Epic elvish lesson. The elf names sound cool too, but Silvermoon is fantastic in English. And yes, the glaive thrower is still firing a Ballista projectile haha

[@penorancer]

foudn this channel and u have areally good commentary voice

[@mickcraftgaming]

@@penorancer many thanks! I'm hoping to do some commentary on competitive matches of Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3, StarCraft, and StarCraft 2 in the near future. Possibly other games as well.