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@TemplinInstitute
@TemplinInstitute 2 жыл бұрын
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@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! However I think you should have used the House of Dusk symbol to 'represent' the Fallen as although they have no unified House to begin with, so it would be difficult to find a symbol to represent them all, House of Dusk is the largest and most wide-spread house. Using the House of Salvation symbol is like using the ISIS Flag to represent all Muslims...not a good look. Currently, there are also 2 Houses allied with us, House of Light (no military forces, almost entirely comprised of refugees) and House of Spider, a Pirate gang with actual highly-specialized military forces, and a shady but desperate leader.
@Prophetofthe8thLegion
@Prophetofthe8thLegion 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Angels: FALLEN???
@Sabastian2000
@Sabastian2000 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Hope you do videos on Naruto or Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
@icicle_ai
@icicle_ai 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakespacepiratee3740 spider doesn't have a house of his own, as he's only a baron, not a kell
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@icicle_ai The Destiny pedia itself calls SPider's group "House of Spider" and apparently it was referred to as such in lore at some point.
@fabr1cat0rgeneral94
@fabr1cat0rgeneral94 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the most interesting alien race in the game because they seem the most...human. After all, who could blame them for resorting to such desperate measures just to cling to survival? What human wouldn't do the same?
@seekingabsolution1907
@seekingabsolution1907 2 жыл бұрын
I think many humans wouldn't, but I think most humans may. Like, most humans wouldn't be the first to suggest the idea but would go along with it at some point once that proverbial ball started rolling. It's a lot easier to do something awful once you've seen someone else do it.
@seekingabsolution1907
@seekingabsolution1907 2 жыл бұрын
@@deriznohappehquite which is the right decision generally speaking, had they done that from the start the wars against the Hive, the Taken, the Vex and the Cabal might have been far less costly and over far sooner. Alas they felt entitled to reclaiming the traveller exactly as they'd had it before and did not take the time to consider the human perspective in the equation.
@imperialhistati2348
@imperialhistati2348 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve killed so many of their brothers it only reinforces their inhumanity… Human Beings know when to stop fighting when there could be peace -be it for survival or blind malice- Eliksni deserve to go… Their already not being used to their full narrative potential, but I’m just a humble Worldbuilder what would I know…
@EccentricGentelman
@EccentricGentelman 2 жыл бұрын
I would not and I do blame them.
@protogenhorde8515
@protogenhorde8515 2 жыл бұрын
@@seekingabsolution1907 indeed, the idea of a house finally allying with humanity fuels a want from me for a fallen Guardian. It would look amazing and makes me think;”what would a fallen guardian have for abilities?”
@ScreebOnARoomba
@ScreebOnARoomba 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Eliksni captains are what they are supposed to look like fully grown, basically adult eliksni. Eliksni that are smaller than captains are underdeveloped due to a lack of ether. The really big archons and kells have been overfed ether, much more than what they realistically need to grow, leading to their large size. Seeing that ether is scarce, the archons and kells abuse their power by giving themselves the largest portions of ether in order to keep themselves physically stronger than everyone beneath them. They do this to maintain power in their own house and make it almost impossible for the lower ranks within to overthrow them.
@konahrikb1578
@konahrikb1578 2 жыл бұрын
Except Mithrax, Kell of the House of Light, who appears to remain at Captain size and never take more than a fair share.
@snax7760
@snax7760 2 жыл бұрын
@@konahrikb1578 And yet he’s powerful enough to scare spider and hold respect from eramis at one point
@konahrikb1578
@konahrikb1578 2 жыл бұрын
@@snax7760 Just goes to show, an Eliksni doesn't need to grow to the size of a small mountain to be a powerful warrior and intimidating presence.
@warriorboltz8817
@warriorboltz8817 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I love Mithrax. Sure most of his people are underdeveloped but being a Kell, mithrax is only the size of a regular captain. He only takes his share and no more. He only needs enough ether to become strong enough to protect his house.
@konahrikb1578
@konahrikb1578 2 жыл бұрын
@@warriorboltz8817 Real leaders put the needs of their people ahead of their own. Regardless of his pas, this is why Mithrax deserves to be the Kell of Kells.
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
"Where is the Great Machine? Where is the Great Machine? ...All is silent. Nothing answers me. The hunger comes." - Chelchis, Kell of Stone to The Traveler
@RavenWolffe77
@RavenWolffe77 2 жыл бұрын
Chelchis, the most badass Kell to ever live. Threw hands with Oryx one-on-one for three while days to buy time for his people -and everyone else on Riis- to evacuate. He's probably the biggest reason the Eliksni still exist.
@torunsmok5890
@torunsmok5890 2 жыл бұрын
@@RavenWolffe77 she
@RavenWolffe77
@RavenWolffe77 2 жыл бұрын
@@torunsmok5890 Huh? Pretty sure the lore depicted Chelchis as a dude...
@Laeshen
@Laeshen 2 жыл бұрын
Celchis the Gigakel
@therandomlaniusedward2140
@therandomlaniusedward2140 2 жыл бұрын
@@RavenWolffe77 And that kell was turned into a gun by oryx. The Chelchis's doom scout rifle is literally him.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 2 жыл бұрын
The sigil used at the beginning for the Fallen isn’t actually their sigil, it’s the banner of House Salvation. All the Houses have their own banners, but you’re only talking about the race, not their factions, so House Dusk would be a better choice since it’s the largest and most accepting House
@nitothefunkybunch6938
@nitothefunkybunch6938 2 жыл бұрын
House Salvation sigil also works as its a combination of the sigils of the 4 major houses from Destiny 1. Also cause Dusk isn't really a house
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think House Dusk is the Eliksni way of categorizing all unaffiliated Fallen raider groups.
@optimusprime2890
@optimusprime2890 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitothefunkybunch6938 House dusk is now the generic Fallen. House Salvation are the more violent and hostile Fallen. House Light are the Eliksni that don't want to fight and help the Last City.
@Bird_Dog00
@Bird_Dog00 2 жыл бұрын
I think House Light is the better representative, as it embodies the ideal of becoming the Eliksni of old again.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitothefunkybunch6938 House Dusk is a house. Mithrax referred to them as such in Season of the Splicer, and you saying such is a slap in the face to the fact they were *literally mentioned* as a House from the old days in Forsaken. Every Destiny simp’s favorite expansion, for some reason
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
"The Fallen are a scourge, tirelessly engaged in war against us and scavenging all that remains." - Destiny tagline
@spook407
@spook407 2 жыл бұрын
@Riskrunner They built it on top of Eventide, it is quite literally a scavenged city
@acgearsandarms1343
@acgearsandarms1343 2 жыл бұрын
They are impressive engineers. I will give them that. They can adapt their technology to whatever they scavenge and jury-rig some impressive stuff. Human, Cabal, even Hive technology.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 2 жыл бұрын
"Listen long enough and you will hear stories of great Eliksni Heroes. When the Great Machine was still with us." -- Variks, the Loyal
@redtob2119
@redtob2119 2 жыл бұрын
The fallen have always been my favourite faction from Destiny.
@KevinJohnson-cv2no
@KevinJohnson-cv2no 2 жыл бұрын
fallen virgin vs Hive Chad
@smoshyxx3058
@smoshyxx3058 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for more Destiny stuff like this.
@smokey3185
@smokey3185 2 жыл бұрын
The Eliksni have always been a really cool Sci Fi race, very glad to see a vid on them on this channel
@t.s.7166
@t.s.7166 2 жыл бұрын
I would kill for a scorn episode! They're shockingly interesting and really feel like their own species
@ShawndaPrawn
@ShawndaPrawn 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, they are. Considering their origins, the Scorn are basically the Eliksni equivalent of Zombies.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShawndaPrawn Orks*
@tigerstorm6622
@tigerstorm6622 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, for our friends in the House of Light, "Fallen" is a duragtory nickname. But for those House Salvation goons, call em Fallen, split jaws, or dark simps all you want!
@lukesalvidge118
@lukesalvidge118 2 жыл бұрын
What is duragtory
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukesalvidge118 He means derogatory. 'Fallen' is like a Human-made slur. Eliksni is the species name.
@Bird_Dog00
@Bird_Dog00 2 жыл бұрын
Misraaks himself conceded that the term is adequate as his species has indeed fallen far from grace. The Fallen are a twisted mockery of what the Eliksni once were. He formed the house of light because he realised that changing their ways away from barbarism is the only way to save his people - both phyisicaly and mentaly.
@isimiel3405
@isimiel3405 2 жыл бұрын
how about xeno scum
@seekingabsolution1907
@seekingabsolution1907 2 жыл бұрын
No. To eradicate prejudice you must acknowledge the "humanity" for want of a better word of all members of a group that prejudice is directed towards. The house of Salvation are still Eliksni and they must be acknowledged as their own people with their own histories, values and desires, even as you mow them down in the dozens across the system.
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
"We have butchers at our gates, four-armed and eager for slaughter." - captain when talking about The Fallen
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that The Fallen's height, four arms, aggressiveness, and habitation of the ruined cities of others are based from the Green Barsoomians from Edgar Rice Burroughs' "John Carter of Mars" series.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the Tharks? They might have 4 arms, but arent they closer to the Na'vi from Avatar due to their primitiveness?
@Odin79_LTD
@Odin79_LTD 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that when they mentioned the 4 arms. I read most of the John Carter books after I stopped playing Destiny. The Fallen have more in common with the Tharks then the Na'vi. Tharks were a fallen race too having access to tech, but also cannibalizing most of what they used
@Odin79_LTD
@Odin79_LTD 2 жыл бұрын
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Just reread the books, also they have made some new ones that are good. Just drink the movie away
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@Odin79_LTD I've never read the books, have no access to Alcohol, and the Movie was underrated so why?
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
*sees thumbnail* Azrael, leader of the Dark Angels Chapter: "Make the Templin Institute repent Asmodai."
@fabr1cat0rgeneral94
@fabr1cat0rgeneral94 2 жыл бұрын
*"REPENT, MOTHERFU--"**
@Spartan135
@Spartan135 2 жыл бұрын
REEEPEEEEEEEENT!!!!!
@HeIsAnAli
@HeIsAnAli 2 жыл бұрын
_DID SOMEONE JUST SAY “MURDER THE TEMPLIN INSTITUTE VIOLENTLY?!”_
@DJROCKSTAZ
@DJROCKSTAZ 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Dark Angels: wrong type of Fallen.
@dhwwiiexpert
@dhwwiiexpert 2 жыл бұрын
“The Fallen? The Fallen!! Asmodai, MAKE THEM REPE- wait, who are these guys?!!”
@SpartanB134
@SpartanB134 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did, and for that you deserved my like sir
@JerodTrd
@JerodTrd 2 жыл бұрын
Eliksni. Not fallen. Xenos, not Heretics. Important distinction.
@martinford4553
@martinford4553 2 жыл бұрын
Better interrogate them anyway, the warp works in strange ways
@JerodTrd
@JerodTrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinford4553 no need. Just eat their brains. Astartes learn from consumes brain tissue. They cannot be redeemed as Xenos.
@JerodTrd
@JerodTrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deridus they can’t repent. They can only die by the hands of the God-Emperor’s Servants!
@CringeMe1ster
@CringeMe1ster 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The Fallen Crime Boss, Spider, is a massively overweight fallen. According to what we know of Eliksni (Fallen) physiology, the ones who hoard Ether are just supposed to grow bigger and taller, but not fatter. When the Bungie devs were asked why Spider is so fat, they said they didn't even know they just wanted to add a godfather boss type character into the game. so in short we have no canonical reason for why Spider is so fat. He just is.
@lordferbus2970
@lordferbus2970 2 жыл бұрын
He's just that guy
@macadder1177
@macadder1177 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more destiny content. The lore is so deep and rich.
@haynoah3499
@haynoah3499 2 жыл бұрын
Two types of Destiny players: 1. “Wow, the Eliksni is so cool” 2. *Milkyway Sweep intensifies
@Xenomopher
@Xenomopher 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when you all do destiny content!! Id love to see you all cover the Hive or Vex!
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 2 жыл бұрын
The vex video would literally be: "We have no idea what they're about. It's in the name. They're time traveling robot things and that's all we know for sure and even then we can't be certain about it and my head hurts"
@therandomlaniusedward2140
@therandomlaniusedward2140 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoisegangGaming "And they like to spread milk everywhere. That milk turns every single thing to them."
@QuantaSolace
@QuantaSolace 2 жыл бұрын
My Name Is Byf has in-depth lore vids on the Hive if you're interested. His video "Dynasty" goes into the origins and the Hive Gods. It's well worth the watch if you have time to spare.
@GhostRydr1172
@GhostRydr1172 2 жыл бұрын
I foresee that Eido, first of her name, Heir of Truth, Child of Misraaks (and perhaps daughter of Eramis the Shipstealer), maybe the best new hope for the future of the Eliksni. SHE MUST BE PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS!
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
I fear that, in her naive curiosity, she will stumble into matters she isn't ready for.
@mattkozak3937
@mattkozak3937 2 жыл бұрын
I foresee her as the possible Kell of Kells
@GhostRydr1172
@GhostRydr1172 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediados Maybe. Here's hoping she grows up very fast and that any hard truths make her wise and understanding instead of bitter and dark like Eramis.
@careydaniels310
@careydaniels310 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think shes a daughter of eramis, since Misraaks found her as a hatchling abandoned in a ship iirc
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 2 жыл бұрын
@@careydaniels310 I wouldn’t put that past their writing team. Especially since Destiny is just a retelling of Paradise Lost when you look at the bigger picture
@jagerdergroe8604
@jagerdergroe8604 2 жыл бұрын
ASMODAI MAKE HIM REPENT!!!
@owenpeters1823
@owenpeters1823 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see another video on the world of Destiny. The Templin Institute always demonstrates excellence in their videos, and I'm glad to see that excellence brought to bear on one of my favourite games
@paulpriglinger4154
@paulpriglinger4154 2 жыл бұрын
I am a simple man, I see Templin institution, I click.
@RoyalPhoenix2015
@RoyalPhoenix2015 2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see Destiny lore getting fleshed out enough for y’all to start doing videos on them. Bungie has really been hit it’s stride with fleshing out the world and giving a strong over arching store
@bottasheimfe5750
@bottasheimfe5750 2 жыл бұрын
I for one really hope that there can be some kind of peace between Humanity and the remnants of the Eliksni. their species is one who experienced such great tragedy and have done whatever they could to survive it. if the Traveler ever awakens, I really hope that Humanity will petition it to aid it's wayward wards as well. even if it's just to get the Fallen to stop fighting humanity
@manuellefuentesvaras7777
@manuellefuentesvaras7777 2 жыл бұрын
Well right now In the story we have a group of eliksni called the house of light that are with us in the last city they are a group of eliksni who worship the traveler and they do not attack humans but the humans were not happy with them living in the last city and have committed some hate crimes
@NotSoChattyYT
@NotSoChattyYT 2 жыл бұрын
The Traveler's concept of good and bad is beyond human comprehension.
@79bigcat
@79bigcat 2 жыл бұрын
The Fallen continue to claw at the walls of our City, unless we strike them down. Beneath the ruins of the Cosmodrome, in the shadow of an old colony ship, we've located the Templin Institute and the Subscribers feeding them their strength.
@warriorboltz8817
@warriorboltz8817 2 жыл бұрын
the fallen/eliksni has gotta be one of my favorite fictional beings ever. From their lore to their technology and how the way they look. Really great storytelling and worldbuilding from bungie
@gaiusbaltar8915
@gaiusbaltar8915 2 жыл бұрын
I love Destiny's worldbuilding. It's like the perfect blend of space opera and a kind of ancient, mystical fantasy; evoking images of biblical egypt and conan the barbarian, a feeling of not understanding the world, of standing awe-struck before something that must have been so grand that even it's ruins are still to be respected.
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 2 жыл бұрын
You called down the thunder, for they have sown the storm, and all will now Reap the Whirlwind.
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what else might be said about Destiny, you can't fault the aesthetics. The Fallen have got to be one of the coolest looking races in all of science fiction.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
I like how humans feel so superior, yet the Eliksni are just us one step further. When the Traveller decides that it's done with Earth, humanity will call the new race thieves and the Guardians tear into them without remorse.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 2 жыл бұрын
@@deriznohappehquite doesn’t threaten, actually does. There’s a difference. The guardian only stops her before the ritual can’t be reversed. That’s what the web in the final mission is for.
@equestrianmidnight5619
@equestrianmidnight5619 2 жыл бұрын
"When"? Why would the Traveler leave? There's no evidence that'll happen. The lore books Unveiling, Constellations, Dreams of Alpha Lupi, and the Hidden Dossier contain evidence of the opposite.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
@@equestrianmidnight5619 It left before didn't it? The Eliksni were the Guardians before us. Before the Eliksni, there was the race of the moons of Fundament. It left 2 races to rot already and preferred using it's power to tp away instead of strengthening them. Now it imbued Savathun with the Light and pitched us in a fight against her, most likely to see who would make the better Guardians. It is only a matter of time until the Traveller decides we aren't worth saving either.
@equestrianmidnight5619
@equestrianmidnight5619 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediados Your comment is based on slippery slope fallacies and faulty assumptions. In order: No, the Eliksni were never Guardians, there's no lore stating they were. They just had their civilization uplifted, their own version of a "Golden Age". Humanity were the first to be given the Light as per the argument to prove to the Darkness that when given power, we would choose to "build a gentle kingdom ringed in spears and not fall to temptation and not surrender to division", to quote the Traveler from the book of Unveiling. The race of Fundament were the Krill, which later became the Hive because the Witness lied to them and said that a "God-Wave" was coming. The Traveler wanted to uplift them, but because the Witness convinced the Krill to seek out the Deep via the lie, they were corrupted by Darkness first. You learn this in the Witch Queen campaign, Ikora sees it how it happened in a vision. The Traveler did not pitch us in a fight against Savathun. She showed up on Mars with her ship and we left to investigate. Savathun was revived as part of a plan for her to abandon the Dark as she did not like the deal of having a parasite that must be fed or else it devours you. The Hive were going to be uplifted from the very start, but it couldn't thanks to the parasite. You can't exactly bring a Golden Age to a race that thinks murder is justified. That's against the Traveler's philosophy. It’s also worth noting that when the Traveler left the Throne World, it could’ve decided to bounce. But it didn’t. It went right back to our city. EDIT: I mistakenly thought the Krill were supposed to be Lightbearers, they weren't, they were just supposed to be uplifted and have their own Golden Age. Edited for clarification. The rest of my post is accurate, though. I know a lot of people want to believe the narrative that the Traveler is some self-serving, evil space orb that thinks this is just a game and/or it is unfeeling and purely a machine caught in a battle with another. It's easy to judge something that won't defend itself and take its silence as admission. But the truth, a truth that is supported by the lore, is that the Traveler is a very benevolent entity that encourages all life to thrive and cooperate with each other. The Witness is the complete antithesis. EDIT 2: 5 days and no response. Damn shame. :(
@pendragon0905
@pendragon0905 2 жыл бұрын
@@equestrianmidnight5619 Why do you think the Traveler abandoned the Fallen but not humanity?
@VictusUnus
@VictusUnus 2 жыл бұрын
I love the bits and pieces of Destiny Lore I hear about. Makes the content Vault and seasonal story stuff more frustrating as someone who doesn't have a ton of free time anymore.
@erickalbani546
@erickalbani546 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till they shine a spotlight to my giant moth baby, Savathun, and the hive as a whole
@hisLoneliness2961
@hisLoneliness2961 2 жыл бұрын
Thank the emperor it's not those Fallen.
@Spartan135
@Spartan135 2 жыл бұрын
Azrael:"Sadly these Xenos existing in a different universe,so we can't purge them.not yet..."
@jedikedi4820
@jedikedi4820 2 жыл бұрын
Me, a Dark Angel player seestl the video title. *HEAVY BREATHING*
@alexboehm3919
@alexboehm3919 2 жыл бұрын
Slight error, the symbol you use in the thumbnail is for a specific fallen house, house salvation. Not the fallen as a whole. I’ve been wanting to see destiny lore though! Keep it up!
@QuietB4
@QuietB4 2 жыл бұрын
Never clicked on a notification so fast
@UnseenBubby
@UnseenBubby 2 жыл бұрын
The Eliknsi in modern history can still clearly divided into distinct views on humanity. Pro-human sentiments are found largely in House Light, founded my Misraaks. That doesn't mean humans are beloved by the Light-aligned Eliknsi, but they can at least tolerate them enough to reside in the Last City and defend it together. Ambivalent attitudes are going to be found in House Dusk and related freelancers. House Dusk is a catch-all informal House made by the remnants of Wolves, Devils, and Kings after the SIVA crisis. There isn't a Kell of Dusk, rather a collection of Barons that maintain a tenuous peace with each other while establishing smaller fiefdoms and territories across the system. Besides House Dusk, Spider's Syndicate is on friendly terms with more renegade Humans and Guardians but they are a crime syndicate first and foremost. Convenient allies at best when sharing enemies. Anti-human Eliknsi will be in House Salvation or reborn as deformed Scorn. House Salvation is a recently formed House on Europa, claiming Darkness powers from the Europan Pyramid and militarizing against the Last City and the Traveler. Though largely broken after Eramis' defeat, her recent escape from Stasis prison has regalvanized them. The Scorn are Eliknsi brought from death by Dark Ether and the undead Fikrul, the Fanatic. Mindless without direction, they are lead by commanders allied with the Witness, the voice in the Darkness, such as the recently deposed Disciple Rhulk and possibly the Cabal Emperor Calus as he becomes a Disciple himself.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
The Scorn are still lead by Fikrul though. The Scorn arent exactly like the Hive. The Hive are basically a magical cult, but they still have free-will and individuality. The Scorn have none of that. Nothing happens without the Necromancer Fikrul puppeting their actions. Massive Scorn named "The Fanatics Chosen" have also been seen in the canonically-repeating mission "Preservation" so the choices to ally with Xivu Arath, Calus, and ultimately the Witness were most-likely under Fikrul's choices.
@UnseenBubby
@UnseenBubby 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Yes but only especially powerful Darkness entities could even allow the Scorn into Savathun's Throne World, leaving entities like The Witness and Rhulk as prime candidates. And only because they allowed the first Scorn in could they establish a beachhead and open portals to get more Scorn through. The Fanatic is undoubtedly still around, but his importance to Black Fleet operations and the War of Light and Dark has taken a backseat. He is merely responsible for the creation of more Scorn but is not the principle commander anymore.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnseenBubby How has the Fanatic's involvement taken a backseat when The Fanatic's Chosen were in Rhulk's Pyramid Ship commanding Scorn? People over-obsess with Fynch's lines about the Fanatic but he never said Fikrul got usurped, just that Rhulk's power let the Scorn in. Even if the Fanatic isnt in the Throne World, he knows whats going on and has no established reason to dislike the forces of Darkness when he literally has Darkness in his ether.
@UnseenBubby
@UnseenBubby 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I didn't say the Fanatic isn't important, and his own personal chosen forces are indeed active in the Throne World and therefore pieces to be removed from the board. But using a chess metaphor, the Fanatic is a Rook or Knight, while the Witness is the King. Definitely a powerful piece that should be removed when an opportunity presents itself or as required for our own more immediate defenses, but he is not the principal commander of the Darkness aligned forces we are fighting. If the goal is to defeat the Witness, or at least prevent a Second Collapse, then an ultimately temporary defeat of Fikrul is not a high priority, not when there are far more powerful and active pieces on the board. People like Calus are much more significant threats, taking the forms of the Queen and Bishops that are challenging us more directly. Besides, Fikrul is functionally immortal, and no matter how many times he is killed the amount of Scorn popping up has not apparently slowed. So why waste energy fighting Fikrul when the Scorn will seemingly keep coming. We will have better progress challenging other powerful pieces while figuring out how to permanently kill Fikrul moves to the back burner.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnseenBubby Holy fuck this is too long. Im not reading all of this. The only point I wanted to make is that the Scorn are mindless creatures so any choice 'they' made like allying with Xivu Arath or allying with Rhulk was the Fanatic's choice. Any claim you have seen of 'The Witness is in contest with the Fanatic' was just Byf conspiratizing with no evidence, and if you are gonna just say things with no direct or indirect evidence, here is one, Fikrul could easily become a Disciple considering the interest the Witness is taking in the Scorn.
@claritycontrol1530
@claritycontrol1530 2 жыл бұрын
Really hope you'll be covering more Destiny lore. There's plenty there to cover. The Last City, the other enemy races, events like the Red War and the Battle of Twilight Gap.
@ranbojd1070
@ranbojd1070 2 жыл бұрын
i Hope we see more of Destiny most factions are really interesting specially the vex
@johnclement189
@johnclement189 2 жыл бұрын
Finally some Destiny lore! More!
@blitz8425
@blitz8425 2 жыл бұрын
Destiny lore is just top quality, idk what it is
@TheNN
@TheNN 2 жыл бұрын
They're Fallen, and they can't get up.
@mingchoi8369
@mingchoi8369 2 жыл бұрын
One does wonder if the Guardians see the Fallen as what humanity might become one day... We need to see more videos on the races and factions from Destiny soon.
@Johan-tq3fk
@Johan-tq3fk 2 жыл бұрын
the dark angels want to know you're location.
@IllegalTumor
@IllegalTumor 2 жыл бұрын
oh hell yes ive been waiting so long for templin institute to do a video on destiny, so much lore to soak in, cant wait to see more of it!!!
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 2 жыл бұрын
Thought this was gonna be about the fallen from Transformers for a second there lol
@JunkPhuJP
@JunkPhuJP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Templin. You explained these guys better than they did on day 1. F*** I’m still salty at how incomplete it was on release after all the hype.
@amazingbro6723
@amazingbro6723 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you do more destiny videos
@gumball6445
@gumball6445 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeesss Templin doing destiny
@PyroZero_
@PyroZero_ 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY MORE DESTINY
@Laeshen
@Laeshen 2 жыл бұрын
Destiny has such great and interesting factions, learning more about them, as we see in the most recent stories from the seasons and expansions is always a treat Vex are my personal favorite simply for the fact that it's implied in the Unveiling Lore Book that they are the 'victors' of the previous universe, which I think is an interesting concept. And of course, they have the coolest designs imo
@CaptainPilipinas
@CaptainPilipinas 2 жыл бұрын
former 'Inevitable' victors/dominators of Every passed [Flower Game] Long before the Great Struggle.... so far as since their existential emergence as those said-Patterns anyways. against Every 'other works' (like us for example) other than their own preferred suggestion, from before.
@CaptainPilipinas
@CaptainPilipinas 2 жыл бұрын
Not just a Single 'uni'verse, Keep in mind. Everyone.
@thecrimsoncommando3875
@thecrimsoncommando3875 2 жыл бұрын
One stipulation: Dregs aren't just criminal elements, they're the bottom rung everybody starts at. With the exception of House Light, docking is used both as a way to preserve ether rationing and to prepare working House members for pain and hardship in their lives. It's also used as fierce punishment, but I'm specifically talking about younger House members.
@therandomlaniusedward2140
@therandomlaniusedward2140 2 жыл бұрын
And they are physically childrens.
@DarthNicky
@DarthNicky 2 жыл бұрын
It’s unfortunate that Destiny is the exact opposite kind of gameplay I want from a game with such an interesting universe filled with potential
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 2 жыл бұрын
I’d gladly take an Elder Scrolls style game instead of this MMO BS. Just for the meaningful choices. I actually quite agree with how the morally black and grey characters think and act. Do I get to do anything like that? No, I’m Zavala’s hit man. Didn’t care when Cayde died, but I still go on a person quest for vengeance? How about cutting our dependency on the traveler? Nah, stasis bad, but I’ll allow it this once.
@vanquilknight6270
@vanquilknight6270 2 жыл бұрын
@@CMTechnica Technically the guardians have been weary of the Traveller ever since it gave Savathun the Light. We just keep the Traveller for it is the best weapon against the arriving Witness. We are still able to use whatever powers we want like the Light subclasses and stasis, since as the Stranger said, "They are tools". Heck we are even getting a new darkness subclass by Lightfall.
@alexanderbaldwin1298
@alexanderbaldwin1298 2 жыл бұрын
Let's goooo, Eliksni Lore on the Templin Institute!
@EPIKSAUCE234
@EPIKSAUCE234 2 жыл бұрын
When I think about the eliksni, a RvB quote comes to mind: "It is an undeniable, and may I say fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable."
@Halo786
@Halo786 2 жыл бұрын
R/Whoosh
@223Drone
@223Drone 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but keep in mind that The Fallen will continue to claw at the walls of our City, unless we strike them down. Beneath the ruins of the Cosmodrome, in the shadow of an old colony ship, we've located the House of Devils' Lair and the High Servitor feeding them their strength. We must destroy this machine god, and send their souls screaming back to hell.
@sporperino
@sporperino 2 жыл бұрын
mah first strike
@kafs1822
@kafs1822 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a destiny game set in the golden age
@Super-BallSharp
@Super-BallSharp 2 жыл бұрын
OH YES
@Awoken_Remmuz
@Awoken_Remmuz 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see ya co-op with Byf wasn't some one off trying to ride a algorithm wave. Tho I imagine ya will at some point as we get closer to Lightfall ;p
@Fen_Wolf
@Fen_Wolf 2 жыл бұрын
It great to see you guys doing destiny races the fallen are one of my favorites
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Hive
@TheLostDrifter
@TheLostDrifter 2 жыл бұрын
Small note: previous to the building of the last city they are not known as Guardians yet but rather as the Arisen or Warlords.
@CaptainPilipinas
@CaptainPilipinas 2 жыл бұрын
whosoever among those [Light]-reforged ones, and has been Risenly chosen to consider immediately Siding with the [Light]'s instead: well, those Few are true Lightbearing Guardians anyways even before some Physical establishing of that metropolitan settlement under the watchful [Traveler].
@EnclaveGeneral
@EnclaveGeneral 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I hope we get more Destiny vids like this!
@ravager2-636
@ravager2-636 2 жыл бұрын
The Fallen: Help I’ve fallen and can’t get back up.. {unsheathe 4 daggers} Guardian1: Oh shit we should help them.. Poor old xeno.. Guardian2: I don’t know seems like a trap Guardian3: {Runs up & shoots fallen} LOOT!
@Spartan135
@Spartan135 2 жыл бұрын
the third one is a true gamer 🤣
@horrorfan117
@horrorfan117 2 жыл бұрын
Guardian 1 is a blueberry Guardian 2 just ran Grasp of Avarice for the first time. Guardian 3 has a problem
@PantherCat64
@PantherCat64 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I forget how good Destiny could be. It has one of the best sci-fi worlds I've seen, both visually and written. This makes me more disappointed that the game itself is only meh, but also the fact we're going to lose this game one day with no way to recover any bit of it. Unless someone stupidly crazy smart is already trying to reverse engineer sever code to archive it. Pretty sure we already lost Destiny 1's assets.
@zdude0127
@zdude0127 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Destiny 1 is not only still up and running, but 2 raids from D1 have actually made their way to D2.
@PantherCat64
@PantherCat64 2 жыл бұрын
@@zdude0127 Wait really? I would have expected them to shut down the severs by now, okay cool, now I just need to pray and hope someone can archive the assets in time before it ACTUALLY shuts down forever.
@soul1d
@soul1d 2 жыл бұрын
I got tired of a game that tries to monopolize your time. But the setting was rather fun
@CringeMe1ster
@CringeMe1ster 2 жыл бұрын
@@PantherCat64 look man Destiny 1 and 2 are going to be around for quite a while. But if you're that concerned with them being shut off just go and play them. D1 is super cheap, and D2 is free to try on all major platforms except Switch. The developers say they plan on supporting the series for a very long time and have no plans on shutting them down anytime soon.
@PantherCat64
@PantherCat64 2 жыл бұрын
​@@CringeMe1ster But they also require online servers to work. Meaning that they'll EVENTUALLY die with no way to ever play them again unless either Bungie has a end of life plan or we archive it now while they're in a playable state. If Bungie goes out of business tomorrow for whatever reason, they're both gone forever. The game's environment and worlds are fantastic and you never know what or who will be inspired next by it. Someone that could make a fantastic piece of work that could change history as we know it but needs this small spark of imagination might even be born yet. I'm not concerned about me not playing it again, I'm worried about no one will ever play it again in the future long after I'm dead.
@dragontemplar4561
@dragontemplar4561 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping for a video on the Cabal Empire before Lightfall releases.
@mirrors2eyes
@mirrors2eyes 2 жыл бұрын
EEEEEEEEE!!! YOURE DOING DESTINY NOW!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@coolliam7694
@coolliam7694 2 жыл бұрын
Never click faster in my life
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 2 жыл бұрын
The fallen remind me of the eldar from Warhammer 40k
@johntheechidna1
@johntheechidna1 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, good! Can't wait for the Hive, Vex, and Cabal. ^^
@BootsOfChaos
@BootsOfChaos 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's accurate to say that the Fallen's collective history is completely lost - there are many Fallen still alive that were born on Riis before the whirlwind. Eramis and Variks are the most notable, and living through the whirlwind is a major part of Eramis' motivations.
@zaxxo2808
@zaxxo2808 2 жыл бұрын
I just play destiny 3 days ago tq to post this 👍
@justsomerandomguy6562
@justsomerandomguy6562 2 жыл бұрын
After watching the Templin x Byf collab a few months ago, I was really hoping to see more Destiny content here. Today is a good day.
@MiffedStarfish053
@MiffedStarfish053 2 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing if you did the rest of the Destiny enemy races!
@Mateaara
@Mateaara 2 жыл бұрын
E L I K S N I
@Skulls228
@Skulls228 2 жыл бұрын
Let's get a my name is byf and the institute Collab!!
@waterdog_mf
@waterdog_mf 2 жыл бұрын
For your next episode could you do a analysis on the being from the Warhammer40k universe known as Trazyn the Infinate? I believe it would be a most entertaining and informative deep dive.
@militant_daisies
@militant_daisies 2 жыл бұрын
love the Destiny content!
@kingsilvergrass8751
@kingsilvergrass8751 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I have a greater clarity and perspective of the Eliksni. My goal now is to see and Chronicle the latest Eliksni Eido, She must be protected.
@GuyShōtō
@GuyShōtō 2 жыл бұрын
Man I didn't know Destiny had such deep and rich lore. But I never played past the first game so that's probably on me.
@BillyBOB-sm3rl
@BillyBOB-sm3rl 2 жыл бұрын
Well done my good man. Are you going to do the other species? Cabal, Hive, Taken and Vex? And Scorn. What about humans, XOs and the Awoke? And the 3 different classes of Guadians. Can't wait
@mediumsurmoon6283
@mediumsurmoon6283 2 жыл бұрын
I would really love for more Destiny lore . I’ve been watching all of your W40k videos since a year ago and fell in love with the format of your videos
@carpemkarzi
@carpemkarzi 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Well done.
@darklordmalthric3633
@darklordmalthric3633 2 жыл бұрын
Please cover the Exosquad
@LordyT34
@LordyT34 2 жыл бұрын
Fallen...? Asmodai!!! Oh wait wrong universe
@masterneloth
@masterneloth 2 жыл бұрын
Man this makes me want to play Destiny again. That scares me lol
@zdude0127
@zdude0127 2 жыл бұрын
Witch Queen is fantastic. At least play that.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 2 жыл бұрын
@@zdude0127 it’s a fantastic way to burn money
@ryan_1099
@ryan_1099 2 жыл бұрын
I've never played Destiny much, but I would have liked to play as the Fallen for the short time I have played it.
@lorentzcoffin4957
@lorentzcoffin4957 2 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that the ether scarcity was exploited and worsened by the vanguard, wiping out almost all prime servitors.
@5RndsFFE
@5RndsFFE 2 жыл бұрын
I was once interested in Destiny lore and the grimoires were cool. It’s a shame you couldn’t view them in game, but instead had to download the app.
@lordferbus2970
@lordferbus2970 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing you can now view lore tabs in game in destiny 2
@OneSeason-C4621
@OneSeason-C4621 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you did a documentary about the Frontier War from Titanfall and Titanfall 2
@sniperfity2327
@sniperfity2327 2 жыл бұрын
all the enemy races in destiny remind me of halo. Not only in their design but their rich and complex stories that have turn then into the enemies we know today
@lordferbus2970
@lordferbus2970 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because both games were made by bungie
@Roycesraphim1
@Roycesraphim1 2 жыл бұрын
I was excited when I saw the early game footage because I thought I could play as the fallen
@Mr_Badidea
@Mr_Badidea 2 жыл бұрын
OMG YES!! I love the fallen!!!
@alecjones148
@alecjones148 2 жыл бұрын
Some ideas for new subjects - The Solarian League (honorverse) and honorverse technology
@daswordofgork9823
@daswordofgork9823 2 жыл бұрын
My lord, what are the Fallen?
@HeIsAnAli
@HeIsAnAli 2 жыл бұрын
_Make him _*_repent,_*_ Asmodai._
@elite_sr2883
@elite_sr2883 2 жыл бұрын
Please upload more from Destiny!
@dr.sweetchat6769
@dr.sweetchat6769 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you guys are doing videos on destiny since I skip passed the cut scenes. I've been playing this game for years and have a very thin understanding of what's going on.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
Especially since the vaulting it is impossible for new players or old returners to get any context
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
ok well you are living proof that you dont need to understand the story to enjoy the game. I heard a lot of people claiming they cant get into it because they cant understand the story, but you prove to show otherwise.
@dr.sweetchat6769
@dr.sweetchat6769 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Bright lights and loud noises is what sold me on the game. Haha.
@Exaar
@Exaar 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, although its a bit outdated in terms of the current lore- not sure if this was done on purpose to avoid spoilers. You didn't talk at all about Mithrax and the House of Light, now allied with humanity and living alongside us, which represent the best chance the Eliksni have for a hopeful future, or Eido his daughter, who is prophesized to help restore the old ways of honor- although I realize this video wasn't about specific characters.
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