Battle of the Twilight Gap: How It Changed Destiny Forever | My Name is Byf

[@TemplinInstitute]

Thanks to My Name is Byf for lending his Destiny expertise to the Templin Institute. If you’d like to see the Arsenal Investigation we performed on the legendary Gjallarhorn, check out the link below! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZzXqK2hbs2IfK8

[@laverniustucker8198]

Can you bring me on next?

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@laverniustucker8198 Are you a well-established sci-fi Lore channel? The answer is obviously no, so no.

[@kudicontessa7147]

Can you guys talk about more famous battles in destiny like the great disaster or the battle of burning lake?

[@austindemuynck9460]

Let’s gooooo Destiny content. Finally it gets exposure from my fav bois at templin

[@bahamutknight5783]

@@kudicontessa7147 I would also add the another important battle wich was the Battle over Saturn.

[@jedispartancoolman]

Destiny legit has some 40k style in depth lore. Glad it finally made it to the channel

[@annelisemeier283]

Deep lore, absolutely. 40k levels of pointless fluff, nah.

[@TensionBoogieWoogie]

@@annelisemeier283 Hahaha, dude Destiny is designed to be a nothing plot that goes on for as long as they can sell you story DLCs.

[@TensionBoogieWoogie]

Even Halo has more cleverly considered lore.

[@crota6233]

@@TensionBoogieWoogie Aye plot and lore aren’t the exact same thing tho.

[@downrangecash2418]

@@TensionBoogieWoogie I mean, Destiny does have some shit storytelling, yeah. But the worldbuilding is superior in pretty much every respect. I wouldn't say it's Marathon, but the worldbuilding is decently thought out.

[@Bugattiboy912]

Not gonna lie it as a long time viewer of Byf's content it was kinda weird to hear him "Institute personnel" instead of "Guardians". Subscribing because they know how to pronounce Gjallarhorn. If you play Destiny you know how rare is it to find someone that does that.

[@lordbrain8867]

I know how to pronounce it but actively say it wrong because it sounds better

[@douglasallar9176]

@@lordbrain8867 this is true

[@adeadphish7931]

Oh, this crossover 100% sold me on subscribing to the Institute for that reason

[@torunsmok5890]

@@lordbrain8867 however it's spoken in game is accurate as its an in game item from a different time that may have developed different pronunciations of old languages

[@UGNAvalon]

“Removing wrong opinions” “Learning proper pronunciation of Byf” “Reticulating splines” Love that loading screen! 🤣

[@MrShadowtruth]

is that last one a gamegrumps reference???

[@owenparris7490]

Wait, two of my favorite lore channels finally doing a collaboration?!

[@pbjam4937]

Templin? Doing Destiny?… This is a dream come true! I would love to see you guys do break down videos of stuff like Oryx’s Dreadnaught or the Almighty

[@jensonpreacher4772]

bro that would be awesome, I would love to see the Almighty on this channel

[@jagerzaku9160]

Yes please!

[@DogwoodDingus]

“What do you mean you can’t concentrate while I’m yelling?! RELAX!” - Lord Shaxx

[@Jagrofes]

I’M NOT SHOUTING

[@Myname-cb9ru]

Destiny has such great lore, I never expected this kind of collaboration. Even though it's perfect

[@tigerstorm6622]

Byf making a video for the Templin Institute is the equivalent of a Harvard professor coming to a high school to give a presentation on their theory of general relativity. I love it.

[@TheArklyte]

Is he supposed to be some sort of Vaativyfia for Destiny?0_o

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

@@TheArklyte he's called the "lore daddy" by guardians. So he is pretty prominent

[@jensonpreacher4772]

@@TheArklyte brother, this guy is basically our God of Knowledge, all other lore channels are shadows to this guy

[@Chickencow11]

@@TheArklyte He made a 4 hour “summery” of the lore in addition to a few hundred 10-60 minute long in depth lore videos. Plus a multi hour, voice acted video on one single relatively short story. Mans got dedication

[@MR_Nosy_Otter1]

Ehhh there’s better destiny lore KZbinrs that do a better job than him

[@brycedunlap298]

I was wondering when you guys would do some destiny lore and then...byf. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Byf, in the last few months ive watched a whole lot of his content, its just funny one of the first if not the first destiny video on this channel is done by someone else. In any case, love the video, having fun with it. Awesome job as usual by both parties involved

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Technically not the first, they did a video on the planet Mars in the Destiny universe. Tho that was quite a few years back so it's frankly a easy mistake to make X3

[@yourewrong9028]

They also did a video on Byf’s channel

[@mr.foxtrot1381]

While I had always understood the implications of the outcome of Twilight Gap as they pertained to the military situation (The military power of the Eliksni as a species in the Sol System was permanently crippled following Twilight Gap and their disasters in the Reef), I had never really considered the cultural implications of the outcome of this battle. Fascinating analysis of a different set of repercussions to the result of Twilight Gap.

[@MW2proification]

I am glad that Destiny is getting more attention on channels such as this, and very nice touch on the co-op with Byf! I hope to make my own YT channel inspired around this too.

[@KaoticVibes]

Omg this was completely unexpected! I ❤ it

[@downrangecash2418]

Templin uploads a Destiny video: *I sleep* It has Byf: *REAL SHIT*

[@theFez_]

When I saw My Name is Byf's logo and heard the theme drop, my jaw dropped in excitement!

[@aikitran420]

Thank you both for collabing! I discovered another great youtuber

[@Orynick]

Byf + Templin Institute? What a blast! 😍

[@Jaydee8652]

I’ll see you starside is still one of my favourite lines ever, it’s got such a nice feel to it.

[@thebigbrzezinski]

Very informative. Reminds me of the lesson Rell taught me, though. Never trust someone just because they give you power, even if you need it. _Especially_ if you need it.

[@LtCWest]

That reminds me of that one infamous question thats is better left unanswered.... "What do you want?"

[@jamesalder8628]

Love the lore of Destiny

[@Midnight605rider]

The fact that you guys got the Lore Daddy helping the institute makes me know you guys are going to be huge. Rock on Templin Institute!

[@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4]

Idk why but I love this, his voice is soothing and would love to learn more from him about the lore.

[@torunsmok5890]

Well, go sub to his channel then :) he is known to the destiny community as lore daddy for a reason

[@CaptainClark23]

Great to see some more Destiny lore on this channel once again. By a lore officionado no less! Here's hoping you'll add more Destiny content over time. Thanks so much! :)

[@AntarticGeezer]

This is why I’ve stayed with destiny for 8 long years.. the story, the lore, the characters. No matter what the current meta gameplay is, I want to follow this story and characters I’ve grown to adore. And that’s why I’ll stay! Great work

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

The Battle of Twilight Gap is basically Destiny's Halo Reach if they won.

[@seankellygaller6902]

Essentially yeah

[@yourewrong9028]

Yeah, kinda lol. I like that comparison.

[@Fordmister]

Arguably the politics of twilight gap are more foundational to Destiny than reach is to halo, mainly because most of the major players at twilight gap survived the battle. As opposed to reach where most of the big time players were killed or missing post battle. Heck elements of destiny's current narrative can be traced directly to the gap. Such as the continued tension between Saladin, Shaxx and Zavala or smaller background narratives such as Anna Bray rescuing what's left of Rasputin from Mars, something which would not have happened had she not used the chaos of Twilight gap to slip away and fake her death. As much as I love halo Reach is mainly just another Battle and planet humanity lost. With its only true future significance to the wider universe being the discovery of halos co-ordinates. The events of halo 1 are probably more akin to halos twilight gap. Given the loss of the ring and it's resulting ripple effects through the covenant hierarchy are far more infulential on the halo universe in its current state

[@seankellygaller6902]

@@Fordmister why reach is so important anyway?

[@Fordmister]

@@seankellygaller6902 essentially because if Earth was Humanities home and political capital in halo then reach was it's military capital. There was an in universe belief that no matter how bad the war was going that as long as reach stood we would be ok. The fact that she fell so quickly was horrifying, but it also meant that there was nothing between the covenant and earth other than them simply not knowing where it was. The fight went from one we were loosing to one we had basically lost with reaches fall. Had it not been for the Autumn escaping the planet with the coordinates for halo on tow and the events that kicked into motion we would have lost.

[@ShadowEclipex]

Was in another tab during the intro and had to do a double take after hearing both intros. Also Twilight Gap being determined by a team of 6 makes me imagine the possibilities of it being a raid.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

It certainly wouldn't feel like a raid... More like a survival mode, I guess?

[@ShadowEclipex]

@@Flamme-Sanabi Now I am imagining something like the last level from Halo Reach.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

@@ShadowEclipexnever played it, but let me guess. It's the mission where the "survive" meme came from and you can virtually not so the objective?

[@LtCWest]

@@Flamme-Sanabi Nope, "Survive" came from the last mission of Halo Reach where Nobel-6 stands alone against against a veritable onslaught of Covenant forces. Edit: Please ignore the comment, I must have been drunk and did not read the previous comment properly. Leaving it up for the sake of context.

[@torunsmok5890]

@@LtCWest dude... They literally were correct and you said 'nope'. You added details someone who didn't play may not know, yea, but everything Flamme said was correct :/

[@eclipsedigi]

wanna thank you and byf for the collab on his channel. I found this channel from his video featuring this channel and I'm excited to see all the lore you have to offer! subbed and liked already!

[@TemplinInstitute]

Welcome aboard!

[@dwightk.schrute8696]

This is the crossover I needed!

[@lorcan0c]

For the record, the Titan Liu Feng, the forename 'Liu' is prounced "Loo", not lo-weh. And that's the game itself saying this, Shaxx recalls details of the battle during D2 Year 1's subclass quests, and his narration says it as "Loo Feng."

[@earnestbrown6524]

I don't play Destiny(did for about a month when it first came out) but I love hearing about the lore of different settings. Going to check out your channel.

[@bobisconsumed520]

FINALLY!!! Thanks so much for covering Destiny! Do SCP Foundation next please

[@NotPenumbra]

they aren’t gonna do SCP because it has no canonical lore

[@jamesalder8628]

SCP Foundation is already aware of The Templin Institute. They both cover the multiverse.

[@t.immelman2720]

The greatest Titan who ever lived, so many legends were born that day, and so many guardians to be remembered

[@Core81alpha]

SAINT-14,SHAXX,ZAVALA,SALADIN,EVERYBODY

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Next video suggestion: THE CABAL EMPIRE (under Calus)

[@seankellygaller6902]

Yes plz! The space turtles

[@mattkozak3937]

Super glad destiny made it to the institute, among with a colab with Byf!

[@Yami-lo2vw]

Byf collabing with The Templin Institute? Godly content.

[@SwiftGundam]

This is a HELL of a surprise.

[@AgentHurley]

I remember my name is Byf from Uni. Great to see you're still making videos!

[@CloneMalone]

Destiny lore really needs more attention, I think it along with things like the visuals and music are extremely under appreciated and over looked.

[@TravisD-sd3jf]

Good placement of young wolf near the end. Gave great atmosphere.

[@gsthomas187]

MY BOY BYF??? Best crossover ever.

[@Kaiju-Driver]

Holy wow two of my favorite channels making a crossover talk about a good day

[@casbot71]

The Traveller never bothered before to give it's _uplifted races_ a heads up about the Darkness. "Hey … better get your system fortified ASAP, here's what's coming."

[@Don113]

That's another part of the Traveler's lore, the bet made with the Darkness: basically, the Traveler bet that given power without concrete communication, a civilization would choose to uplift itself to great heights while retaining the ability to protect itself, a gentle city surrounded by a ring of spears. So the Traveler never communicates directly with the civilizations it uplifted. The power they manifested was still substantial, it just wasn't enough to stop the Darkness. It only ever once spoke directly to anyone; that person was Clovis Bray, and basically it was to say, "Dude, what the fuck."

[@mingchoi8369]

Didn't expect a special guest star, especially on a video related to Destiny. You should do more videos on the Destiny mythos.

[@mortarion9813]

We really do NEED to see this animated. Just imagining such a brilliant cinematic would be magnificent.

[@wesleylang172]

Im having a day, was wondering why a Byf video was playing when I clicked my Templin Video. Love the crossover, let's hope we get more vids on the topic.

[@AsuraL101]

Two of my favorite channels working together on my favorite game. It's a good day today 😁

[@seranymouse6176]

I just wanted to say that I loved Destiny's lore and Byf's channel was a huge part of that. Its just a shame that Destiny 2 made fall out of love with the franchise just as hard as the first game made me fall in. Anyway, thanks for the videos Byf. Ad astra, my friend, ad astra.

[@gort1319]

if you only played in year one of destiny 2 you might wanna give it a go again. it has been a great game for years and its been getting better and better ever since

[@jbeverley67]

@@gort1319 yeah, I can go back to D1 for nostalgia but I just can't play it as much anymore. D2 has improved soooo many things from D1 that it's hard too go back.

[@seranymouse6176]

My dudes, I don't doubt it. I git the third expansion when it came out and it seemed much improved. But while I was playing I realized that everyone else was loving the hell out of it and felt... nothing. I nothinged the game. No joy, no hope, no nothing. It was at that point, even with the improvements, that I was done. They fucked me once in Destiny 1, and then they won me back, but then they fucked me twice. I just felt nothing for that game, and and nothing but disappointment for that studio. But, my dear Guardians, I'm thrilled that you guys are loving the game. Kick some ass for me.

[@masonzm88]

Love this feature. Both channels are absolutely amazing

[@adeadphish7931]

Found the Institute's channel through this crossover and I am here for another lore channel for various Sci Fi universes. I love this stuff!!

[@igncom1]

Definitely seems like a very grim bright universe where things are shit, but actually CAN get better.

[@Out_Beyond_The_Heliopause]

Byf collab hype! 😀

[@NingenSlayerZamasu]

So canonically Byf is a Templin personal agent?

[@horrorfan117]

It’s more likely that he’s a independent specialist that is asked to give guest lectures to new agents that are researching this particular alternate universe.

[@chessbear2642]

Hello, Nice to meet you byf

[@annguyen-tr3ne]

Yes, anothor video about Destiny, and this time is a collab with My name is Byf, the loremaster of Destiny Thank you Templin Insitute

[@ayamzyr7599]

i didnt know i needed this crossover until now

[@emberthecatgirl8796]

And thus, with all his might, the Lore Daddy arrives.

[@emergingloki]

"I was at the Final Attempt. I saw a Guardian wield a gun that left molten gold in her wake. I ran and never looked back." -Avrok, transl. from Eliksni TANGLED WEB HELM Guessing that was Anna B...

[@genildomiranda1690]

I know nothing about destiny, KZbin just threw me here and got me very confused for a while, but hey, great video dude, top notch.

[@BaldianOfIbelin]

3:20 there is also another theory is that RASPUTIN the strategist who calculated that without the Traveler humanity would not survive without the Traveler so when the Traveler tried to escape RASPUTIN threatened him with a orbital bombardment forcing the Traveler to stay and create the ghosts as a last ditch attempt to fend off the darkness

[@Yogarine]

PSA: Destiny Weapon Pronunciations Gjallarhorn: Gi-y’all-are-horn Jötunn: Youghtoon Sturm: Shtoorm Le Monarque: Luh Moh-narhk Wormgod Caress: Wormgod Ka-ress Citan’s Ramparts: Sigh-tan’s Ram-parts

[@frank-b6169]

You spartans have a legendary bless day. God bless and happy holidays.

[@xdeser2949]

Genuinely something I love about destiny is how it condenses what would be considered a universe worth of lore into....one single solar system. Sure things came from the wider galaxy, and for various reasons the solar system has been expanded (more habitable worlds because of the Traveler, the Reef) but it all takes place....right here.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Agreed, like one of the Bungie devs stated way back before even D1 launched, people just have a easier time engaging with a story that takes place in familiar locations. Tho I personally agree with the speculation that once the light vs darkness arc is over with the final shape expansion I imagine we'll start experiencing adventures outside of Sol.

[@jiminfested]

The streams are crossing and I like it. Was so unexpected to hear both openings

[@badjuju2721]

Papa Byf and The Institute together? What is this my birthday?!

[@andreistoica2470]

He îs also known for Command and Conquer lore

[@andreistoica2470]

He was known as no Strings Prd

[@badjuju2721]

@@andreistoica2470 what?

[@Rickjmt]

This is brilliant! I so needed this

[@stuartclifton4764]

I love Byf. I love Templin Institute. Perfection.

[@diamondmetal3062]

The eliksni houses are some of the most interesting villains in Destiny. Not only do they have their own cultures and backstories, but they also serve as a dark mirror of humanity should the Tower fail to protect the City. I remember a quote from Star Trek about how it’s easy to be a saint in paradise, and likewise, humanity has developed a prosperous society under the Guardians, but the eliksni never had Guardians and were forced to go to much more extreme lengths just to survive.

[@ラスカルーくん]

Im just saying, it would be absolutely incredible to go to the fallen city of London to see the damage caused by the Eliksni, and perhaps refit it into a society for the Eliksni, considering the house of devils utilized it as their initial hq and base of operations before migrating to our resting place, old Russia

[@bridge_four]

I mean europa is there as well, Eramis did alot of work to create an environment similar to that of Riis, She might have been misguided, but she was def not a bad person, she was looking out for her people, and Riis reborn could be a great new place, a new start for house of light.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@bridge_four Yeah she was a bad person. In lore, the Exo Stranger came from an alternate Universe were Eramis allied with Darkness-infected Guardians and Cabal, and together, this Dark Alliance attacked the City and won, killing everyone and immediately began fighting eachother.

[@horrorfan117]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 It is hard to think of Erasmis as truly evil. She was one of the last of her people who had personally witnessed the height of her civilization reduced to ruins. An event that also saw her lose her only love. That loss galvanize her conviction to find a way to protect her people at any cost. Unfortunately she succumbed to the whispers of the Darkness and embraced its power. Corrupting her vision, and dooming her future. She’s more of a tragic/fallen hero than a true villain.

[@TheLuckyTim7]

So cool to see people outside of the destiny community be excited about destiny lore

[@dasberk4971]

Love the collaboration with Byf

[@cs3473]

Nice. Now all I need is for Byf to do one on this channel about Clovis and Elsie Bray, the Exo Program and the battle to close the Vex Gate on Europa...

[@horrorfan117]

Next crossover event: Templin Arsenal series - The Touch of Malice Byf battle lecture - Either The Great Disaster or The Battle of Saturn

[@andreproudian7032]

When two of my favourite lore channels do a collab.... All is right with the world today.

[@WindWalker666]

Great to see Byf here as a guest Lecturer.

[@amazingbro6723]

Please do more on destiny

[@ShuRugal]

It's worth noting that when you have two or more functional groups who have developed the capacity to annihilate one another totally and utterly, and to execute this annihilation while being annihilated, playing by the rules suddenly becomes a lot more important, because if one of those groups feels sufficiently threatened, they'll just exercise the "total annihilation" option and then everybody loses.

[@FreeFallingAir]

Hmmm, that's some good lore🤔 May need to look at this more closely. Great video as always!

[@jack1701e]

I really should try and get back into Destiny, I used to be massively into it and played it a ton but i've not done so for like two or three years, it's changed so much, so much more content I don't know if I can handle it... Amazing video though!

[@SandwichRobot]

This is the ultimate crossover.

[@georgebeswick7549]

Ok... I wasn't expecting this!!!!

[@kenguyii9108]

You would make for a great Lore Guardian, My Name is Byf!

[@literalsarcasm1830]

Lore Daddy and the Templin Institute together at least. All is right in the world.

[@eliasdeleone7059]

I like how The Drifter says he was at Twilight Gap. I wouldn't have clicked on this video if he hadn't.

[@Ghostface2252]

The biggest question I have is how did the fallen manage to make guardians suffer final deaths? I could be wrong on this one but I was lead to believe through the lore that it takes a paracausal force to kill a ghost for good, and as far as I know the fallen don't have weaponry like that.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Guardians can experience final death even when there ghost still around if the presence of the light is to weak, that's the canonical reason behind the darkness zones, the ones where ya have to reset if ya die.

[@Ghostface2252]

@@Awoken_Remmuz Thank you for the clarification, I always viewed the darkness zones as more of a game mechanic and not something that was happening lore wise, but it's good to know that it is actually real.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

@@Ghostface2252 funny thing most game mechanics has some lore explanation, heck there's a in universe explanation why PvP maps from vaulted destinations are still around.

[@Ghostface2252]

@@Awoken_Remmuz Wait really? Please explain the map thing.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

@@Ghostface2252 they are using a part of the infinite forest to create Vex simulations of the maps.

[@justiron2999]

The best fight you'll never see and just be cock teased by.

[@Charlie-js8rj]

Byf and Templin? Hell yes.

[@DiogoPace]

Shaxx was the MVP, but it goes understated how much Ana Bray kicked ass with her Golden Gun. Plus, I thought that even exiled Osiris made an appearance but I guess I wrong since after the battle Saint-14 went on his crusade and than after the old warlock.

[@mathewfitzpatrick5645]

Also pretty sure we weren't known as godslayers until we thundered Crota, MAYBE when we conquered the Vault of Glass.

[@allmyself666]

Fallen Houses and their mighty Kels: *Unify under a single cause. Decimate Guardian difference. Fail to enter The Last City and The Traveler's Light.* Mithrax; *Give Guardians a cool gun* Later "Hello neighbor, can I borrow a cup of light and...." Guardians: "Get the fuck in this city right now!"

[@LucidGhostYT]

This video is the ultimate culmination of LoreDaddies™ coming together.

[@robertfarr9186]

So a never ending universal conflict of geometric shapes

[@urulai]

This was great!

[@fobbitoperator3620]

Gave up D2 when sunsetting became a thing. Still enjoy watching your videos from time to time.

[@siegeart2555]

I haven't played D2 in a while as well. But Destiny lore is still really good

[@fobbitoperator3620]

@@siegeart2555 Yup. What I miss the most is, "what could have been." If Bungie hadn't gone & changed/ruined the game so much, it'd still be an amazing game, & I/we would still be playing it as we did with D1. Damn Bungie...

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

10:46 This implys that Eliksni work at the Templin Institute!

[@martinconway8174]

Per Audacia Ad Astra!

[@MynameisByf]

I'll see you starside 👍

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@AWR271]

if Templin does more destiny I hope they bring Byf back every once in a while.

[@MR_Nosy_Otter1]

I mean there are destiny KZbinrs who can do a better job than byfe at explaining lore

[@namekman01]

there is some debate on whether the traveler IS the light, or the darkness IS the pyramids, as opposed to meerly associated

[@divra1994]

That Wizard Came From the Moon

[@hihowdyhellohi5231]

I really like different alien species whether animals or conscious and so I like the idea that maybe some Eliksni might eventually make peace or there will be a house that still is as culturally advanced as they once were by going into cryo but making it take longer so eventually they may once again be civilized

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Well the recent events involving the house of light has moved up, if a bit shakingly towards some Eliskni peace, time will tell if it will hold.

[@hihowdyhellohi5231]

@@Awoken_Remmuz I honestly have just started playing because a friend bugged me enough but I really like lord and world building so I knew some of this but I had no clue about this so thanks a ton Also if this isn’t to annoying I got a question, are there still Eliksni in the Reef or did they all rebel?

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

@@hihowdyhellohi5231 if the Tangled Shore is anything to go by right now the reef is basically a lawless land with house of Rain clinging on while Spider and his crime organization. Tho things will likely change if lore this season is to go by.

[@hihowdyhellohi5231]

@@Awoken_Remmuz Thanks!

[@horrorfan117]

@@Awoken_Remmuz if my memory is correct the House of Rain is gone, but their ultimate fate is rather dubious. House of Dusk uses the same banners and colors, Variks claims the House perished in the whirlwind, and the Guardian fought them to save Saint-14 when they traveled back in time. Also the Spider is now on the run, so I’m unsure if there’s any affiliated Eliksni still in the Reef. With the Scorn running amok on the shore, and House Light offering safety and amnesty I can’t imagine any would willingly stick around.