THE FANNY ADAMS CASE

[@GothicLane]

I actually lived in the same town she was killed in, Alton. There is still a memorial for her, and I have walked the fated path she was taken on before she was murdered.

[@zomb6]

Oh shat

[@ShimiraMishari]

BlackCat mc

[@miaclarke6859]

I live near there

[@NoIdea68]

Lena Chan I dont live too far either! I live in farnham

[@amazingspiderlad]

Same, I've been to the place where it happened and it send a shiver down my spine

[@croccodoggo8883]

I thought that the saying “Sweet Fanny Adams” was gonna be a sweet saying in her memory meaning that she loved sweets and was a lovely girl, but man that’s messed up that they use it to refer to something of low value. :(

[@d.sherlock5359]

crocco doggo “Sweet Fanny Adams” was actually evolved from “Sweet F**k All”, which was cleaned up by saying “Sweet F.A.”, and later the “Fanny Adams” was drafted in to cover 5he swear without most people knowing of this case.

[@jadelynne5933]

@@d.sherlock5359 my nana always use to say that randomly and I never understood her

[@CrrUptdSprt]

I thought it was a swear bc it's a British word for p***y o_o

[@issyvsteventon3853]

@@CrrUptdSprt no just the word fanny lol, tho no one gives kids that name bc of the connotations

[@WyattRyeSway]

Issy V Steventon ....in the US it means “butt”

[@baileysubliminals7192]

It gives me chills of imagining her face being stuck in a smile.

[@notsoobnie4577]

Imagine the horror the person felt when they found it

[@lillianyoung6820]

Imagine not knowing you were going to die just feeling the pain she went through

[@ashelynrodriguez3192]

Same..yikes. poor baby

[@chatoyantpaw]

I wanna see pictures :/ I know it's weird but I'm not the only one

[@Soulmalfunction]

Lolita Subliminals her name is fanny 😂 what do you expect

[@hornetstudios3017]

First rule of parenting: if two children tell them that there sibling was picked up by a man and taken off. Listen to them. No matter what freaking year it is

[@toratoragaming]

I nominate you to be the time traveling ambassador of common sense. If we do develop time travel, please go back and slap sense into parents.

[@hornetstudios3017]

ToraToraTiger I will do exactly that

[@abbigail3311]

@@hornetstudios3017 the time travelling ambassador we all wanted but didnt know we needed

[@hornetstudios3017]

Abbigail thank you

[@helainanatasha7496]

Martha was the friends Mom, When fanny mom found out she acted appropriately immediately. Fanny was with her sister and her friend

[@tejawygant616]

I definitely think that wasn't Bakers first time killing someone like that, too ruthless and calculated

[@idismadi]

definitely. and especially if there wasn’t any technology etc, it would’ve been _easy_ for him to hide murders

[@TipTheScales27]

I’m thinking he must’ve mutilated animals

[@ellenpettersson870]

TipTheScales27 many psycho/sociopaths who go on to murder people often start out killing and experimenting on animals, if nothing else there’s no doubt in my mind he had started out in such fashion. This dude knew exactly what he was doing.

[@emeryltekutsu4357]

Since he was apparently new in town, probably not. He probably moved away from another area where he'd kill someone in order to not get caught.

[@heather_doestruecrime]

It is very likely, if not guaranteed, that he dismembered, abused and dissected animals throughout his life. A very sick and twisted individual.. I struggle to say human.

[@gracebiddle5819]

Is it just me who is currently binging all the true crime videos?? They are so good I am literally addicted

[@roroo]

mme 2

[@kotapopp]

I’ve been binging on a steady Eleanor and Kendall rae kick for about a month straight now... it’s all I wanna watch

[@ah.mitch0]

Here here

[@stawberryspace8230]

I am aswell

[@kaylzmar]

SAME!!!

[@livvjanee]

As soon as she said “friendly face” I knew he wasn’t a friendly face

[@skrrrtskrrrt8235]

Liv Jane so true 😭 if you have to specify they have a friendly face they most likely are monsters under that mask or something like that

[@reneekevorkian2968]

me, eating macaroni and cheese Eleanor: this is gorey. slowly puts away food

[@haileygrey5047]

And I just KNEW it was going to be a man 😫

[@torinoobz]

@@skrrrtskrrrt8235 no.. the saying "a friendly face" means someone you recognize and the girls recognized him since he was a known person in the area Eleanor didnt mean it as "he has a friendly face" LOL

[@issy3166]

“Portions of a child” That’s not creepy at all

[@dmarti11235]

People didn't tend to sugar coat then

[@jupitersnoot4915]

sounds like a title for the true crime novel about this case

[@sheeps_]

It’s so wild how fast the murder was able to dismember her and spread her body out so quickly, the girls family saw him so soon after the crime.

[@spencervirens]

Maybe he threw the body parts

[@avalonrieger4045]

Is avalon your name?? Bc same wow

[@JohnJacobSchmidtt]

Probably had practice on someone or something else

[@clueless2207]

he probably didnt spread the body parts the same day

[@cececulchaint7241]

he most likely dismembered her in pieces and just carried her around or what was left of her around until he decided he was done

[@TooLegit2Quit84]

This case is incredibly tragic... The eyes in the lake gave me chills...

[@dumbkid5303]

Abra AWE-bruh Singleton ik. Its horrible that he did that. I also dont know why im watching this. Its terrible, and im terrified. Abduction has started up in places near me and im scared. Its horrifying to think that this could happen to anyone. Its a horrible terrible scary monstrous thought. :(

[@gemstrange1598]

Actually, it was a river -the River Wey, its source is a short distance from Flood Meadows.

[@LL-ip5mm]

The whole things just horrible why did he dismember her body like that he’s so evil omg

[@janetmissjacksonifyourenas2904]

👁👁

[@texmom4697]

It’s hard to believe that there was ever a time in history when it was acceptable for a grown ass man to grab an 8 yr old girl in his arms and take her into the fields alone. Poor little girl. 💕

[@pipster7541]

@Jacquelin Sainte No she said already IT WASN'T NORMAL! For stuff like that! Listen! Next time ok.?

[@pipster7541]

@Jacquelin Sainte first of all I'mma show my mum second of all I'm sorry don't rude please that wasn't very nice...

[@oliviawann5480]

Banana Cream Muffin not saying this is a rude way but are you a child? I don’t think showing your mom is going to affect that person at all lol

[@beomkawa]

Olivia Wann yeah lol

[@whousingthisyeahbuddy8742]

Banana Cream Muffin Honey is not gonna work coming from a 13-year-old listen if I want to show my mom me disrespecting a adult I would’ve got a whooping and I’m in middle school in the seventh grade so you definitely gonna get tore up

[@tamistitt1004]

"...had to sneak him out of a back door he fear he would get killed" I personally would have opened the door and yelled,"Come and get him!"

[@angelic_affirmations7]

Same

[@nakayawashington349]

While ringing the dinner bell

[@gayestbaby]

Exactly! And I wouldn't have stopped the dad from blowing a hole through him with that shotgun!!

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

ah to be in that crowd

[@ryohn5468]

People then did have a mob mentality but also the fear of being avenged by the law for taking the law into their own hands. Personally they should have attacked him

[@mahonalisa7064]

it hurts me to know someone can hurt a sweet innocent child like this

[@hinatahyuga9172]

Ya this is a scary world ,with bad and terrifying people :

[@sunnygirl8123]

ikr, this world is so beautiful but the people in it are cruel

[@celeste.cutz2020]

Unfortunately it happens all too often. I just cannot understand any of the killing and torture of anyone especially a child. My mind cannot comprehend any of it.

[@OmerMD]

BRUH YOUR NAME AND PROFILE LOOOL I'm sorry

[@mahonalisa7064]

@@OmerMD lol its ok i tried to be funny

[@amujs]

fanny's friends did EVERYTHING right they immediately told martha and martha's stupidity cost poor fanny her life! i'm repulsed :(

[@amujs]

Cece Cinnamon ikr :(( it's such a sad and horrifying thing! i was honestly wondering how come she wasn't tried for intentionally endangering a minor because??? she literally dismissed her daughter and her friend telling her that a man picked up fanny and took her away!

[@kiramarie7441]

I agree with everyone here but wat if it was too late already rip

[@emily_4038]

Here's the thing at first it's fine but if fanny didn't come out after that y wouldn't u go searching or at least warn the mother

[@9shiptooffi]

The parents in these stories are fucking idiots, I would have lost my shit if someone told me my child was taken. I would have caught him before he had a chance and slit his throat.

[@thevioletcabinet]

You do realise, this was in the 1860s - nothing like this ever really happens, even Jack the Ripper hadn’t happened yet. It wasn’t stupidity, it was the fact that most people could be trusted, especially as she knew him from church.

[@beep_beep_]

Oh my god. Poor Fanny, I hope she died quickly so she didn't suffer. The part about her eyes being found in the river really stood out to me. Baker was so sadistic and really went all out with dismembering an innocent little girl, and it makes me sick. I'm glad he was executed, but he deserved to be burned alive for what he did.

[@sophiamoreau8721]

Allison Driscoll Facts The part that really stuck out to me was how they found her head. I deadass would be traumatized, especially after finding out all of the details. 😩

[@caseypachecoo]

It seems like she got tortured. I hope she passed out in shock so she didnt feel it :(

[@caitlinfisher6732]

Sick

[@robynwilson9227]

If you do something this HORRIFFIC, you should be subject to everything you put your innocent victim through. Sadistic fucking bastard. I hope he rots in hell. Poor little girl... ❤😭

[@thek9queen77]

Allison Driscoll I highly dought she died quickly. Sad, but it was probably one of the most painful ways to go.

[@phoenixtantum5079]

Fredric just decided to kill someone and claimed he was “intoxicated” and “mentally insane” which turned out not to be true. So he just decided to kill fanny for no compelling reason? At least he was hung.

[@AlottaBoulchit]

Given the way he wrote about her death in his diary I would venture to guess he was a sociopath. He might not have cared one way or the other about killing her and just did it cause he could. Personally I think there was probably a perverse intention in his taking her and the murder was to cover the evidence or the murder itself could have been for perverse enjoyment. Him claiming insanity or drunkenness sound like just attempts to get off the hook should either excuse actually work in his favor. I'm glad he was hung but it would have been more fitting if they'd let the father execute him via a one man firing squad...but probably for the best. The father didn't need that weight on his shoulders with everything else.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

Omg..I misunderstood the last sentence in your comment. I hadn't finished the video yet...thank God that's not what you meant...ugh

[@malu8710]

@@AlottaBoulchit I feel hes more like a psychopath tbfh. No remorse, no regret and no motive. He just killed her in such a cruel way and he wasnt bothered the least bit. But in the end, psychopath, sociopath or neither, hes nothing but a cold murderer

[@Diordollies.]

@@AlottaBoulchit but sociopathy is a mental disorder though,he said he was mentally ill or mentally unstable which came out to be false. so he's just a narcissistic asshole.

[@LaydiNite]

@@Diordollies. You can have mental disorders and not be insane. I have a mental illness, but I'm not delusional or incapable of understanding right and wrong. It was determined that he was sane in the eyes of the court, meaning that he had the capacity to understand what he was doing and that it was wrong. He obviously understood that, since he was trying to hide what he had done, or make up excuses.

[@CrustyUgg]

When ppl say how low crime rates used to be.. I often wonder how accurate that is. We have to take a few things into consideration. How well was crime recorded and documented and kept? How often was crime even spoken about? How easy was it to get away with something compared to the present day? I wouldn’t be surprised if the crimes rates were about the same honestly. Same crimes, different times!

[@anon3263]

There are multiple articles state that there are less crimes now then there were back then, we just didn't know about it because it wasn't recorded or we didn't have nation wide/global media.

[@camvin575]

I would of said more crime happening back then.

[@DiamondeBlonde]

Also must take in statistics of smaller population in average but still curious about ratio regardless.

[@jtwright4095]

I was thinking the same thing (otherwise, would mama have gotten so distraught?)

[@matthewthetiger1649]

Everyone knows there ws more crim back in the day as alot of things wasnt classed as murders and also lack of police knowledge extra

[@GothicLane]

I remember reading the story of how she died at the local Alton museum, it actually says that her heart was found in the pulpit of the only church in Alton. Her eyes were found in the stream in flood meadows. There is a ghost walk in Alton where they take along to where her various body parts were located, in hopes to see her ghost.

[@amandaromero1840]

Wait, so they take groups of people to see the various places her body parts were located? Cool

[@nomaam738]

That’s actually really creepy

[@danielebortolussi3187]

This is one of the most gruesome, horrible, and sickening crime I've ever heard of. That man is truly twisted and I hope he burns in hell. Rest in peace Fanny Adams👼🏻

[@poppyisabella5215]

Annie's World96 god that was awful, im pretty good at stomaching most of these cases but that was almost too much and i almost threw up my cereal

[@vegasayvonna8807]

Same I almost threw up and I was Crying

[@missapeeps3771]

They shouldn't have stopped her dad when he got his shotgun....

[@EAMCFC]

Agreed

[@funfairs__uk]

Agreed

[@gojomybiasfr]

Agreed

[@Konan__1]

No because they needed to get enough grounded evidence. If the father killed baker and he was somehow innocent the father would have been a murder.

[@Mira-jj6du]

Agreed. No doubt it was him. If the father wanted to face what would happen to him if he took matters into his own hands so be it!

[@expressionlessentities8197]

Completely unrelated but El looks so beautiful, the curled hair and glowing skin, the nude lip, A LEWK! So gorgeous x

[@Hi-fg5lp]

Expressionless Entities, I was thinking the exact same thing

[@iibig_shxq2978]

Look in the description for winged liner

[@anna-gj5kw]

hell yeah she does, absolute queen

[@sofiaberberanmaya]

First though I had! She looks amazing, that eye look: amazing!

[@Rtytanicj]

She’s sooooo beautiful! And has GORGEOUS hair!!

[@jarofdirt778]

This was such a horrible case holy shit

[@rkta_girl__7337]

Jar ofdirt i k ow especially the bit about her lips being cut into a smile #chills ☹️☹️😭😭😢😢🤐🤐

[@chelseabishop2299]

thats gonna give me nightmares

[@MAGEBEATS]

right

[@jesse1751]

shizzle*

[@charlottescott3870]

I live in Alton, in the same street as Fanny did and I can see Flood Meadows from my bedroom window. Never will something disturb me like this does, needless to say that no one ever goes to Floodies (the meadow) alone anymore. Rest in peace sweet girl 💟

[@amandaromero1840]

I would be terrified if I saw Flood Meadows from my bedroom window, but I would also be amazed

[@itz_commonsence_1017]

Rest In Peace Fanny Adams

[@sheenaalexis8710]

Has anyone ever reported her beautiful spirit in the meadows? :(

[@legsopenforhim9657]

Charlotte Scott I want to go to Alton and search with my family or friends

[@mattlord97]

@@sheenaalexis8710 yeah cos that's what happens in real life... lmao

[@teegha]

How fanny was a kid who always smiled, and how he carved cuts on her face as if she has a smile, makes me think this murder had a much deeper twisted meaning

[@vlogsbykace]

i dont understand why someone would want to do that to such an innocent child?

[@LovePuppy-sg4ri]

Mental illness and hate. There is bad in the world. I would also say the devil, but some people aren’t religious.

[@shiy9036]

Sickos who probably got some type of mental illness, or demonic possession.

[@calendulate]

@@111ohno If you are trying to make a joke it's in poor taste.

[@stawberrychan1086]

Imagine just walking by the lake and just seeing two human eyes on the shore or like floatung

[@ivybooth8]

Stawberry Chan that’s what I thought her freaking eyes were in the lake!

[@toxxicx]

right i was like how did they find them?

[@peepeepoopoo1985]

i would be out of there before a second

[@melissam597]

And seeing her head 😔

[@alxiszy]

COOL

[@RachaelDivers]

Oh that poor little angel 😪 I agree about the weather comment, it shows how detached he was and that he didn't have any moral reasoning to realise that this was so wrong. Such an awful case, thanks for the video. Recently discovered your channel and love it, love that you're from the uk too 😘 xoxo

[@kristinwiebold2433]

Fanny was brutally killed and her body chopped up into pieces and saliors use her name to mean bad mutton? That is a disturbing saying. Don't know why people back then thought it would be something funny.

[@dmarti11235]

Dark humour

[@melissam597]

The 19th century was super morbid, they used to prop up and pose dead children for photographs and stuff 😒

[@philhughes3882]

What's worse is that "sweet f.a." or just "f.a." (you know what the "f" stands for), has come to mean "nothing" or worthless, - and it's used all the time. I swear like a trooper but have never used it since learning of it's origin. Some things are beyond the pale.

[@feliz5919]

@@melissam597 They did that in “we’re gonna let you take some final photographs with your beloved relatives, before they are laid to rest (in peace).” kind of way. but tbh I don’t think taking a photograph with their body would comfort me nor make me feel better about my relative or child (If I was a mother) dying, it would freak me out. no offense...

[@imintheghettoratatata6593]

@@melissam597 some people find it sweet but I find it fucking creepy

[@emilyrose831]

This case reminds me of ‘the lovely bones’ for some reason. The killer dismembered the girl and kept the diary. In the lovely bones the exact same happened. This is so awful though. May she rest in peace 💕

[@katyt6021]

Exactly what I thought when she told the story such a sad film 😞

[@oliviaronsisvalle7461]

Not really, I know the movie is based on a book, which I haven't read. But in the film she is raped and murdered in a bunker then her body shoved into a safe which the guy kept in his basement. He didn't dismember or disembowel her. Didn't scatter her remains. And he was never really caught although they knew it was him

[@emilyrose831]

Olivia VS Aus oh believe me I know. The lovely bones is my favourite book of all time. It’s just those two things reminded me of this 👌🏻

[@oliviaronsisvalle7461]

Emily Rose Ahaha ok cool, I love it too. Was just thrown off bc you said the exact thing happens in it

[@rubyisabella5345]

Emily Rose same

[@sophiawebb5521]

Well, that “sweet fanny Adams” line definitely needs to be cancelled.

[@sawy3rxo]

Yes please

[@nickyr.2944]

I think it should stay in, if only for the reason, that this phrase, at long last, ceases to get used when people understand where it comes from and how disgusting it actually is.

[@marsargo99]

It’s not really a phrase, only people I’ve heard use it were 80+

[@nickyr.2944]

@@marsargo99Hm, maybe... - But still, it is better when people know about its origins and reading through the comments there are obviously a fair amount of people who have heard it, though apparently here and there the meaning has changed, while it has stayed negative throughout. I myself have heard a colleague use the phrase on occasion (also not with its original meaning but as an alternative to 'dear me!', or 'wtf, are you doing') and he is not yet forty. So, he might be an oddity, or the use simply depends on various factors, like social and geographical background or the like. Having said that, yes, you are right, it is not commonly used, but it shouldn't be around in the first place.

[@marsargo99]

Nicky R. I totally get what you’re saying but educating people about the saying is going to get more people to learn it. If it crops up in a conversation ask if they actually know what it’s from and get them to research, they’ll shortly stop using it. I just don’t think it’s enough of a phrase to get “cancelled” so to speak when it already has done out of becoming outdated

[@MissCherielicious]

I'm glad he got a death sentence, I can't think of any other punishment for such a horrific, terrible murder!! Maybe I shouldn't be watching your videos right before going to bed, I hope I won't get nightmares :(

[@Moreninha55]

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[@kawiipotato2965]

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[@amazingspiderlad]

Very easy solution... Don't sleep I'm kidding that could be dangerous if you don't sleep for ages

[@lexties]

Fanny is here to haunt you

[@technoratic5589]

Yuri ...

[@kaceycashman8991]

I live in Alton 🥺 her grave always has flowers and teddy’s

[@4mazzy]

aww, i really want to go to her grave and place something.

[@feliz5919]

@@4mazzy same 🥺💔

[@PissyLissy]

Awww

[@jamie-leighgibson2338]

Who puts them there wouldn't her family b dead

[@kaceycashman8991]

@@jamie-leighgibson2338 local people 🙂

[@stephaniegleissner5868]

The knives get rusty when the iron from the blood come in contact. That’s why it’s red since the iron and oxygen from blood makes blood red

[@meera2531]

Makes me think he might have killed before. Maybe not a human but animals... He surely was a psychopath.

[@LacunaAngelx]

I came to the comment section looking for this info,, thank you!!

[@tilly9632]

That was proven false ages ago by a university

[@whousingthisyeahbuddy8742]

True because in blood there’s this thing called hemoglobin which is a globular proteins anyway I learned about it in school a month or two ago so this makes sense to me because I’m a middle school student in seventh grade so we learned about that it’s pretty much basic science but you’re very intelligent for the remembering that thoughI hope I never forget that

[@tilly9632]

@@whousingthisyeahbuddy8742 thankyou for this knowledge I beleive blood is red inside the body anyways but who knows the world is mysterious lol x

[@ky3644]

That’s absolutely horrific. How can someone do that to a child it’s so gory !!🤢

[@laurenandryanfrench]

Never actually knew fanny Adams was a real person! Wtf!

[@demibehrens8890]

I know right I knew the saying but wow! Heartbreaking.

[@nashixo4636]

What saying??

[@demibehrens8890]

@@nashixo4636 sweet fanny Adams she tells you about it in the video.

[@misspadalecki101]

she literally says and explains it at the end of the video...

[@patashnikelroy]

Poor sweetie, she had her whole life in front of her, and it was stolen...

[@calllies7123]

This story was so horribly sick, like this story kinda scares me now, i mean omg.

[@ivybooth8]

Calllies this story made me sick

[@abbigail3311]

@@ivybooth8 let's all be sick on him

[@ivybooth8]

Abbigail that sounds fantastic

[@annasophiaeloise7372]

My nan used to call us fanny Adams if we were mucking around or running late 🤷‍♀️ I always wondered where it came from!

[@kaixis]

Anyone get really curious what their families/friends/neighbours would describe them as if they were to die/go missing? It seems like most victims are described as clever, friendly, out-going, cheerful, etc. I feel like everyone around me would just be like, we don’t really know her, she never comes out of her room unless we bait her out by turning off the wifi

[@kimbertree]

Yesss. I've even texted my sister and said something along the lines of "don't say I was outgoing and whatnot, be real. Tell them I'm an awkward, socially inept book lover who only goes out when necessary but is a people pleaser and will do anything to avoid confrontation." 🤣🤣

[@Keri122]

I think about this all the time! "She's kind of nice, kind of a jerk. Liked food and dogs, hated people. Pretty boring person overall."

[@dd17900]

@@kimbertree I love this

[@msmadisonmiller1]

I've always thought the same thing about obituaries. I wonder why everyone described every person as "outgoing! They lit up every room they walked into! That were an angel who loves children and saved every puppy they saw!" Like there HAS to be some people who were awful people and someone was honest about it. I've only seen one obituary in my life where people were honest and straight up said they weren't a good person 💀💀

[@iibig_shxq2978]

100th like :D

[@witchywoman2008]

It never occurred me that “sweet Fanny Adams” was an actual person. My god.

[@Supersaiyanbabe]

That poor baby girl 😔 my heart is with her ..

[@cathylanders6377]

Me too

[@JustAChinesePleb]

@Shandy Leer or "shandy leer" sounds like a pedos name, esp the *leer* gross

[@crimson6031]

“Sweet Fanny Adams” More like... “Poor Fanny Adams” Crying right now

[@peepeepoopoo1985]

wait whats wrong with “sweet” i haven’t finished the video can someone explain

[@flossie6800]

Obbie And Oddie have you finished the video yet

[@mwiababe4151]

@@flossie6800 probably

[@vegansause5767]

maybe finish the video

[@katieosborne9858]

on the subject of the knives not being rusted, stainless steel wasn't invented till 1910's, meaning that knives in the 1850's could be suspectible to rusting due to the metals they were made of. in comparison, today we use stainless steel which is rustproof.

[@lottiewinter4896]

As soon as she described about Fanny’s head I felt sick. The fact that someone would do this to a child is heartbreaking and disgusting. Rest In Peace fanny, you will live forever in our hearts

[@avi4989]

i dont have a girlfriend but ive got NEW TRUE CRIME WEEK N THATS BETTER

[@avi4989]

Lil Bleach thats the dream 😍

[@peaforbrain]

lets all enjoy it together

[@eloisegrace7563]

i’m single 😂😂

[@holls3599]

💗same, got no boyfriend but love my life cos true crime week

[@lucybarnes8969]

Sammeee

[@lottiegrace7646]

This kinda reminds me of the story “lovely bones” its a good book but definitely dark and disturbing

[@LolaSky1996]

The movies pretty good too

[@thehighlandlife2023]

Yes this reminded me of that book x

[@prettykush7924]

That book and movie made me cry it’s just not fair 🥺I hated the end

[@ashthebibliophage]

I’m currently reading it for the first time! It’s a great book so far. The author’s portrayal of the way different people grieve differently is so real and raw.

[@starswouldfalllikerain594]

Literally just made this comparison in my head

[@brigi.e]

It’s so bizarre that he dismembered Fannie so brutally and we’ll never know why

[@keira4915]

Brigitte frrr

[@leoaranzaa]

Imagine being that person who brushed off the two little girls who came to you for help, imaging being that person who could have prevented a tragedy.

[@leoaranzaa]

@Toddy Lane I wouldn’t say she was a terrible mother; but at the same time I think that what she did was a fatal decision. If my child had said that their sibling had been taken or even if my child said that a strange person was talking to them- I would check it out as it’s better to be safe than sorry

[@amanda_howerton]

Eleanor, I just had to take a minute to say how much I truly adore you! I look forward to every video you upload! I’ve watched almost every crime video you’ve made. I love them so much & I love the person you are! Thank you for doing what you do and thank you for being YOU! 💗🤟🏼😍

[@tiffanyrichardson2538]

I absolutely was not expecting that kind of gore!. Poor girl.

[@Jennifer-ge1up]

“Mini true crime video” *video is 22 mins long* 😍

[@Mary1337]

I think she is talking about the true crime week?

[@Mary1337]

@simplyreema Yeah true, forgot:)

[@cloda1232]

I get what you mean why can't other you tubers be like her

[@MalloryKnox.]

I live in Scotland and I've heard that saying countless times. It seems to be interchangable with "sweet FA" which I always thought stood for "sweet f*** all." My parents and grandparents have used it jokingly when we ask what is for dinner, or what we are getting for christmas, both versions. I always wondered how we started using the name Fanny as an insult, a name for female genitals, and also as a term for mucking around and doing nothing (fannying about). I even used the term myself a lot as its very very common here in central Scotland. I will NEVER use it again.

[@firefly5874]

This is so confusing to me, a non UK person. 😂

[@beth220]

i completely feel the same, what part of scotland are you from?

[@AFBudgets]

As a US person. Never heard that term. A fanny here is a butt/bum.

[@MalloryKnox.]

@@beth220 I am from North Lanarkshire

[@MalloryKnox.]

@@AFBudgets I’ve always thought that was odd lmao Fanny is practically a swear word here

[@graceliz52]

i live in the same town where fanny adams was killed and everyone talks about it. there are rumours about someone finding her eyes in Flood Meadows in the town but recently not at the time of the murder and the pub where they attempted to reassemble her body has been up for sale for years. It so interesting to find out the real story behind the tales we talk about at school. love this video!

[@zoeweir9468]

grace christer this case is so sad! I feel bad for the people in the area (if the family still lives there) that are related to her knowing that there relative had to go through this.

[@graceliz52]

@Episode Interactive true, tbh, most things which people say about her is usually false

[@bigchungusisgay4625]

I also live near there

[@behniwal08]

It amazes me how the friends mother didn't take her daughter seriously. I know it was a different time and everything but still! And let's be real things aren't much different today. Yes children overexagerate for attention but they should be taken more seriously! Btw your makeup this video 👌

[@bexbrider6305]

This is so sad. It's a shame she died in such a horrible and gruesome way and that they are using her name for a cruel way. I can't believe how she was cut up and some parts have still not been found. But, may she rest in peace knowing that her killer didn't get away with it... It was obvious he wanted to kill her with the fact that he disposed of her in such a cruel nature, and if they hadn't locked him up in prison awaiting his trial he probably could have done it again. I honestly don't know why people kill people, or why people kill kids, or why kids kill people or why kids kill kids, it is disgusting and especially if it is in a cruel way. Like with the James Bulger case or the Baby P case.

[@lisascarrott6142]

I know it sickens me to i dont know how any one can harm another human being

[@lisascarrott6142]

I always try and remember murder victims not the murderers themselves like the hungerford killings Dunblane and many more. The little Victoria climbe and james bulgar little poppi and baby peter case got me the most. They was so young just babies and toddlers at the time the little Victoria was killed by someone who was supposed to love her she was 8 years old holly and jessica murders in solham April and sarah murders by pedophilies frightened me they was just kids out playing. Thats what me and my sister used to do was play out in the parks or walk to school or to the shops by ourselves in the 1990s and 2000s there was so many children being harmed and killed by their parents or loved ones. Few was killed by strangers there was has been always fear of stranger danger not to talk to strangers but its usually its parents grandparents aunts uncles and family friends people who know the children can be abusers or murderers. I wanted my brother to be in at a certain time when holly and Jessica was murdered by the school care taker i didnt want my brother going out on his own in fact i dont think he did go out unless i was with him in the garden only it made me paranoid about him coming to harm. I didnt want my brother or sister to be out of the garden

[@satansspawn4001]

It’s especially bad when it’s a child, because they’re vulnerable and obviously can’t defend themselves against a adult/ teenager. It’s just sad because you know fanny stood no chance in defending herself, especially with what the killer did to her body

[@sleeperscreepers7289]

The prison he was at before he was transferred, he shuddered at meat, and didn’t get much sleep at all, anyone else think a certain spirit was haunting him....

[@ryleegrandia2386]

I definitely think something was there affecting him! Conspiracy it was Fanny’s Spirit wanting revenge on the one who killed her a sweet innocent little girl!👌🏻

[@shouta-y2c]

Me me me!

[@harlietalland7586]

Or maybe he was being tormented by the inmates, we can only hope one of these two is true it's the least the monster deserved

[@willow9912]

@@harlietalland7586 as he should have been

[@agx9695]

Fell off the treadmill machine whilst getting this notif woooh

[@karmstrong6566]

Oof I hope that you're ok that's something I would do to

[@tamaratredwell1841]

a g x the

[@Elizabeth11.11]

Lmfaoooo

[@user-xv8nt9tf2u]

Why would people say sweet fanny adams thats just soo rude R.I.P fanny adams

[@molly5814]

You are right... that is absolutely disgusting why would anyone say that

[@dove2206]

Sumaiya Begum whats wrong with it?

[@olivia1801]

D•O V•E did u watch the video or-

[@dove2206]

olivia yeah

[@tilly9632]

It's a memorial thing u won't get it if your not from the area

[@arwen875]

Your hair is incredibly beautiful 😍😍😍

[@DiamondeBlonde]

It's such a beautiful color and compliments her skin tone. I wish my hair was naturally this color.

[@daskevica]

Is it her natural colour? xxx

[@kendrarobledo7741]

When you type up Arwen, this emoji pops up 🧝‍♀️. Just a random fact. 😂 🥴

[@arwen875]

@@kendrarobledo7741 Lol i didnt know that 😂

[@jesse1751]

Girl just got killed and mutilated and all you have to say is this 🤣 :Edit: I don't disagree with you though.

[@tenshishimura]

That poor little girl, imagine how terrified she must have been.

[@shelleyguinn8128]

Just want to say a massive thanks to you, had my first law lesson at college yesterday and a good half an hour was talking about uk murder cases and I came off so knowledgeable thanks to your videos, bloody love you! x

[@graceee7540]

I love how Elle apologizes for a 1:30 intro when everyone else has like a 5... She’s so pretty goshhh xx

[@Psycul]

Who's Elle?

[@justcupcakeaka]

LillieX the person that made this video duh

[@007K-p7g]

@@justcupcakeaka she’s called Eleanor ‘duh’

[@justcupcakeaka]

@@007K-p7g ever heard of a nickname

[@dominiclawrence]

i love these they’re my go to binge

[@rebeccaxx1885]

DomVlogs OH SHIT I KNOW YOU FROM TIKTOK AHAHA

[@zedeb7]

OMG HIIIIII

[@jorjaxo8462]

tik tok lolol

[@shayhiggins8616]

OML HAI

[@rhianna3493]

@@rebeccaxx1885 HAHAHA ME TOOOOO

[@yasmineshahid]

At this point I’ve been binge watching Eleanor Neale for 4-5 hours per day, since quarantine has started

[@Maria-vo4eq]

Personally I haven't finished the whole video just yet but if I was the mother I couldn't ever live with myself, fredrick had so much time to dismember Fanny if she'd have listened to the children it could possibly have been prevented but like Eleanor said it was the time period that played a part too. Rest in peace Fanny Adams..

[@Officiallyheathermarie]

Maria xo I completely agree! I mean it wasn’t HER mother but still!

[@MWBlueNoodles]

Agreed. Even if it was a prank, something so serious shouldn't be ignored.

[@mish_elle1450]

The girls actually came back at around dusk and the neighbour had asked where fanny was. After the girls told her, Ms Gardner rushed back with the girls to find baker so in this story it wasn't told correctly but nonetheless, it was sad that fanny had been murdered

[@matthewthetiger1649]

Consider the time and how this shit was normal

[@rainbowslimesbywolf9565]

@fallout angel crime happened a lot back then but it wasnt reported

[@shelbyscurlz]

OMG YOURE DOING A TRUE CRIME WEEK THROUGH MY BIRTHDAY WEEK (i turn 18 on 9/12) best lowkey bday present ever

[@honey8998]

Same! I turn 18 on the 12th of Sept too!

[@nads4002]

Happy Birthday to all 3 of you!

[@taytayslayslayslay]

Wait the 9th December?

[@nothing3422]

@@taytayslayslayslay September 12 actually, the 9 is the month and the 12 the day 😊

[@taytayslayslayslay]

Fran ohhhh she was American riiiight I get it :)

[@ailabelliveau8044]

Poor fanny may she Rest In Peace

[@sheenaalexis8710]

That "joke" shows you right there,the type of disgusting humans we share this planet with...

[@dmarti11235]

It's simply a reflection of Victorian England, and the dark humour of the time (and really of the human race in general). Ever sang the nursery rhyme 'Ring-around-the-rosy'? Plenty of bubonic plague victims would be just as disgusted.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

@@dmarti11235 you kinda just added to my point...if anything. And yes, that's also disgusting. I have a huge sense of humour and it can be pretty dark at times. But a mutilated and murdered child joke, crosses the line imo. I don't care what time it is. That's always bad taste!

[@sheenaalexis8710]

@@dmarti11235 and btw I'm well aware of ring around the rosy, the children who have played that had no idea of the origin not to mention the lyrics are innocently vague and not at all obviously negative. The ADULTS however who partake in the fanny Adams joke were very aware of why and what they were saying referring to bad tasting meat as her. One is wayyý worse then the other! Very different examples I think.

[@dmarti11235]

@@sheenaalexis8710 But the thing is you're judging it off a 2020 morality that didn't exist in 1869. Public executions existed back then. Beating your kids and having them work in factories was also okay then, but is (pretty much) universally accepted as wrong today. I'm not defending it, I'm saying that you can't decide that people were terrible then based off a set of morals that didn't exist. In 2150, it may be absolutely evil to kiss someone, but that doesn't make you a disgusting person for doing so in 2020.

[@user-js7ll7ir5d]

DavidMartin ugh i hate “dark humour” for one its not even fucking funny and secondly its just been used as an excuse for people to be horrible people

[@kirsty5958]

I have just gone back to school and knowing there's a new true crime week is really keeping me going

[@tararain97]

Honestly same

[@g3440-g1q]

I've never heard the saying "sweet fanny adams", but my mum and her family always use "fanny adams" in the same way youd use "trouble" (for example) when saying "y'alright trouble"?? I'm not sure where they got this from but its so weird to me that theyve been saying "y'alright fanny adams" to me and my cousins?? im gonna ask my mum where she got that from next time i see her, maybe its a manchester thing idk

[@kaylawearen3604]

make sure to update!!

[@robynwilson9227]

I'm from Manchester myself and loads of people in my family say it all the time, I'm seriously gonna ask them to stop next time I hear it, I know it was ages ago but the fact that this little girls abhorrent suffering is used as a joke and a casual saying is sick. Like, if someone didn't wanna go swimming would you say "aww come on Nathalie Wood" or if your kid was dawdling whilst shopping with you you wouldn't say "hurry up Bulger" would ya? It's sick and disturbed. The fact she's long since buried doesn't change her suffering. 😭💕

[@userc-dq2li]

my mum has always called me fanny adams 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@rainbowslimesbywolf9565]

Update

[@Yawnzzie]

Update plz

[@spanglelime]

Never heard "Sweet Fanny Adams!" but my mum would say it to refer to either my sister or I when we were growing up, then I think later on, "Fanny Adams over here/there." Those are the contexts I've heard it used, but it makes sense now! So much sense. That poor, poor girl. Baker is lucky George Adams or the mob didn't get to him first. One of our first recorded psychopaths caught by police?

[@laurwrope3050]

Lexie Madz so you have heard it “never heard “sweet fanny Adams” but my mum would say it to refer to either my sister or I”

[@jude7223]

I used to say Sweet Fanny Adams all the time, it's quite common in the North, specially in South Yorkshire. I was not aware of the meaning behind it, now I feel sick

[@cow2912]

My Aunt used to always tell us about how terrible her mothers cooking was , she would say “Her beef and dumplings was sweet fanny Adams” . And when I told her what that saying came from , you could see her face go white .

[@bixzterthetrickster5586]

Ugh this is so creepy and sick. I feel so sick after hearing these details.

[@ilovepancakesx1]

My grandad always says 'we will have to start calling you fanny Adams" when i would be out all day without staying in contact... I had no idea what he meant till now, great video as always Eleanor💗 can't wait for next week!!!

[@vulpis_foraminis]

Very interesting . My family picked hops for generations around Alton and petersfield my great great grandmother used to tell stories about this that were pasted down she was born in the hop Fields . We were always warned not to go off or talk to strangers because of sweet fanny Adams still to this day . RIP fanny Adams .

[@taylorc8134]

I wonder what would have happened if the mom believed her daughter and her daughter's friend in the beginning. I know that the times were different back then but I just feel like Fanny could have been saved from such a horrific death. I am definitely not blaming the mom. This stuff still happens today. Parents are so trusting with the people who are around their children and that can put them in danger. Not everyone you are close to have pure intentions and just because you wouldn't think something could happen, doesn't mean that it can't happen. I love your channel Eleanor! Keep up the great work!! Can't wait for next week! RIP Fanny.

[@WhimsicalNessa]

Taylor C Maybe they could’ve prevented it or would’ve caught him right after...

[@madtingz2288]

Taylor C I mean you have to remember it was completely different times, these were the days where children not much older than Fanny were out working!

[@felicityaeh]

Taylor C They might have still been too late or even ended up injured themselves

[@jenniehudson5742]

I think because there was no tv,radio,Internet, phones,or fingerprinting etc...cases like this weren't emphasised about...not in small quiet villages .you had newspapers,but I think people were naive because of those reasons.he was the last person to be hung at Winchester and the sailors of her day gave their meat rations that horrible saying made out of her initials.if it wasn't for that,I don't think her story would be known of like it still is.that and the brutality of it.poor kid

[@dumbkid5303]

They could have ..... caught him while he was .... c a r v i n g..... its a terrible thought but it could have happened :(

[@madimoxxi596]

I found this one extra creepy, I like that you added the journal entry about the weather, very telling on his personality. I wonder why he chose Fanny out of all the girls. Why someone so creepy could be trusted. Good read!

[@eliza6e7h]

Madi. Wynn cuz she was cuter than the rest maybe

[@InHimAlone]

The is a really sad one :( Jacob Wetterling was a huge abduction case from my childhood. Every person I know was impacted by this case. It was recently solved, after near 30 years. His mother has been a huge child safety advocate and is currently the chair for The National Center of Missing and Exploited Children. It would be hard for me to watch, but I would love to see how you pull all the details of the case together.

[@taylorjordyn4893]

Sheri did you get to watch her video on Jacob? She did do one.

[@emilymcgowan1176]

I am obsessed with these videos, even though I know I will have nightmares later on.

[@moniquearmstrong8882]

I luv her voice

[@-mayflowers-]

Fanny was such a cute girl! Poor baby! May her soul forever Rest In Peace❤️

[@actualtrash7873]

Oh wow “sweet Fanny Adams” is super messed up.

[@kaceyturner4765]

Theres a few sweet shops called fanny Adam's

[@jennywilliams5265]

Kacey Turner what the actual fuck

[@itsallforpele]

@@kaceyturner4765 excuse me what the hell?

[@kaceyturner4765]

@@jennywilliams5265 if your british you would know dingus

[@jennywilliams5265]

Kacey Turner I am British but I never knew about that.

[@madtingz2288]

Omg I always heard the term “fanny adams “ too and had no idea it was about a little girl who got murdered..

[@shiy9036]

And dismembered too..

[@nykue8838]

Eleanor's eyeshadow is so on point and her eyeliner and her hair is everything

[@jasminavila2512]

girl your makeup is poppin✨😫👏

[@princessunicornsrainbowssh6106]

Eveyone: AW POOR GIRL i feel so bad she seems like such a sweet girl you: girl your makeup I poppin🎆😥👏 My reaction: 😂

[@5thjuly]

Skye Cottle ✨😫👏*

[@oliviafaith2962]

Jesus is that all youcan care about! A THIRTY YEAROLD MAN PICKED UP AN 8 YEAR OLD AND KILLED HER.that says alot about a person and if youstandat home LAUGHING about this comment you are a bad person

[@pixel3780]

@@oliviafaith2962 girl sit your ass down. It's just a comment.

[@laylarain]

@@oliviafaith2962 Calm down, it ain't that serious. It's a COMPLIMENT, nothing wrong with it

[@Jennifer-ge1up]

I love the way you take us through these videos, feels like you’re sat down beside me chatting away to me telling me about these cases. So informative but easy to listen to and follow👏🏼

[@ragnvllndr]

*me, eating macaroni and cheese* Eleanor: this is gorey. *slowly puts away food*

[@moof8545]

B-but.. *_The mac and cheese_* 🥺

[@nurseray6866]

Literally eating a taco during the description of her death ....

[@zlataisawsome]

You guys have junk food?

[@ragnvllndr]

Commissioner Badgeface You guys have?

[@reggierays]

bruh im eating mac n cheese too

[@trellabella1]

Im really impressed with the police work and the way the people of the town banned together especially for the time

[@lucyreeves7058]

I live in Alton and walk past Tan House Lane (the lane where the guy took Fanny) every day on the way to school and after school I always hang out at Flood Meadows. Also the graveyard where her grave is, is opposite my school🤭

[@edenlowery5778]

This sounds stupid but is Alton where Alton towers is???

[@moonlighttiger5278]

@@edenlowery5778 Alton Towers is in Stoke-on-Trent (In between Birmingham and Manchester kinda)

[@edenlowery5778]

@@moonlighttiger5278 yeah ik

[@garytarr8216]

@@@edenlowery5778. Yes right , you are stupid !! Look at a friggin map or google it MORON

[@edenlowery5778]

@@garytarr8216 god alright, chill out 😂

[@violet1329]

Oh gosh! I know quite a few people who use the saying 'Sweet Fanny Adams' and now I feel sick. Such a terrible death rest in peace sweet little Fanny Adams.

[@Fmanzo10]

You should show them this video... Maybe they’ll stop saying it..?

[@sewageskank6730]

I love old cases like these! It's probably just because I'm obsessed with older eras, but I find them to be more mysterious and interesting. I'm absolutely not telling you to do more of these, but if you enjoy making videos about old cases I would def watch the hell out of them. Also, I think crime must have been worse back in that time. The only difference being that most were labeled natural or suicides and because they didn't have the technology we have today they could never say otherwise. We touched this in a Sociology class before. And that media was nothing like today, so people didn't know of crimes that took place. It always makes me think of The Lovely Bones and how she said that only pretty white girls were made known when they go missing, even though others were definitely victims. Perhaps cases like these get sensualized because it was obviously a murder, and it was pretty obvious who had done it. Doesn't hurt that she was a little girl. Maybe that's why I'm so obsessed with old cases, because they were handled so much different than they are today. Also, back in the 19th century and younger, they seem to be much more brutal which is also very interesting. Anyway, I'm rambling. I love you and thank you fo all you do. I know I've said this before, but it's always true. And I don't blame you at all for putting the phrase explanation on here. I mean, if anything is distasteful it's me as a child happily singing the Lizzie Borden song. So I could never judge lmao

[@bq419]

Exactly, she said crimes didn't happen, which is obviously not true, it simply wasn't reported or known as much

[@sewageskank6730]

Beatrice Quaglieri Totally! It was so hard to solve crimes due to lack of knowledge and technology. It was hard to even decipher what was a crime or not. And it's really hard to spread the news when it took a week just to receive a letter. The amount of crime that was underreported back then is sky high, I'm sure. I understand why people think crime didn't happen in older eras, because that's how it seems, but it was entirely due to murders not being reported or not cared about. I'm sure people back then felt safer murdering others because of this? I mean, I haven't looked too much into this, but it seems like that is something that would happen. It was easier to get away with it. I'm just using her as an example because I mentioned her previously, but Lizzie was found innocent despite having so much circumstantial evidence against her. It was so difficult to prove anything for certain. She was let free despite everything. (also sidenote, I'm not saying for sure that she committed those crimes, but there are some things abt the case that's hard to ignore) I remember watching a doc on some family from centuries ago, and how the young child would kill people with axes for fun and it proved him worthy of being royalty. Like people had very narrow views on ethics back then. So I am certain crime was so much more common back then.

[@lisamcdonald2877]

About Lizzie Borden, part of the reason she was found not guilty was the tgen popular idea that women were weaker and more delicate than men. She appeared to grow faint when crime scene photos were shown in court. Also, she was from a more affluent family in the town, always an advantage.

[@viridianstar]

If you like vintage mysteries, check out the channel gabulosis. 😊

[@cerysisabelle506]

slutty mcgillicutty I love your username

[@ellietaylor9938]

I feel like now I know where that saying comes from, I shall endeavour not to use it and to explain to those who do use where it came from. Fanny Adams may have died in the 1800’s but she still deserves respect and humility

[@avamae6110]

I promised myself that i would stop watching thease videos theu keep me up at night and mess up my head....they are realy eye opening and entertaining tho.....

[@meixn]

Ava Rand dudeee sameeeee

[@milobunny6195]

Same tho i cant stop but most of them terrified me

[@grace-nu8ed]

i really appreciate the fact how she give warnings to things people are sensitive to, such as child murders, which is a thing not a lot of people do. the amount of effort and research you put into these videos is absolutely amazing.

[@angieneale2662]

grace v. You would not believe how much time she puts into her research x

[@gracex5987]

this has nothing to do with the video, but i jus wanted to tell you that i had my first a-level psychology class today, and we looked at ian huntley, who i only know about thanks to your videos! i cant wait to study more people who you’ve covered! x

[@acmulhern]

I've only watched a few seconds of the video, but I had to pause and comment about how beautiful your eye makeup is. You're a true artist.

[@_vickyjd6088]

It’s crazy how these sayings come about and then we all use them everyday without really knowing the true meaning! I prob won’t be using that one again! So excited for true crime week x

[@amazingspiderlad]

I live in the town where this one happened so knowing a lot of local history I can tell you that this is an extremely accurate telling of the event

[@caraphernalia666]

*I'm a year late but eh* H e l l o b e s t f r e n

[@amazingspiderlad]

@@caraphernalia666 hiya

[@skreemqueen756]

Baker was a complete psychopath Great work Eleanor, you always look beautiful. Great work.

[@maisyrose819]

Rest In Peace Fanny Adams 🕊 🥺 such a terrible thing to happen to such a sweet and innocent girl, hope she is happy in heaven ❤️❤️