The FASTEST RC Jet You're Gonna Fly - Freewing Mirage 80mm

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

So right off the bat I love that the gear comes out when you flip the switch instead of an hour later. I wish MRC would stop doing that. Rolls like a freaking drill bit...awesome! Very interesting jet...cool in some different ways.

[@TwoBrosRC]

The instant gear drop is great; but there is something graceful about gear that takes a few moments to drop. Where it gets real bothersome is when the gear won't drop until a door has to cycle for 20+ seconds lol

[@tructran8783]

Wow... 6 minutes unbelievable flight with SMC LiHV 6S 3600. LOVE IT ❤❤❤❤❤ That pack is only 485gr ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Mach3RC]

The noseless flying was hilarious, it literally was a flying Dorito 😂😂😂

[@TwoBrosRC]

Just needed some queso to land in.

[@WesMRC]

Still my personal favorite 😂. I’ve killed several now because it’s constantly asking you to fly it crazy. I personally always keep an extra ready lol.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Definitely! Still considering rebuilding it - gotta fly it again next year after all!

[@ficosk8]

@@TwoBrosRC it is next year already...just sayin :D xD

[@FarmerFpv]

I love the Freewing Mirage. I put thrust vectoring on mine and and a Rehm flight controller. It is a whole different beast that handles on rails with the Rehm flight controller and the thrust vectoring is so much fun doing flat spins and hovering. My favorite is flipping end over end on the tail.

[@tonyyimbo]

I’m thinking of trying to fpv this , have you tried? Would it be too wild?

[@nonassigne2778]

@@tonyyimbo i did, it is fun but you may have to make your own canopy, the one it comes with is too opaque for my taste

[@tonyyimbo]

@@nonassigne2778 how did you Tame the jet ? . I usually use floor shine and dip it for 48 hours to Get clarity

[@nonassigne2778]

I might just try that on a spare canopy, my method is to make a plaster mold using th original canopy and to thermoform a plastic bottle on it using a heat gun. It takes time and is not very reliable but it gave me one good canopy

[@tonyyimbo]

@@nonassigne2778 ahh nice . Yeah as soon as I found floor shine only 3d printing and custom canopy is the way to get a clear one

[@looneytunes47]

Holy Crap that thing is a flying drill bit nice bonus footage of the headless horseman too!

[@TwoBrosRC]

🔩

[@MatthewDoesStuffRC]

I think I might have to look into a mirage now, they are way more agile than I thought. The cobra with them is insane!

[@franciscoduran3688]

OH MY GOOOSH::: xD I don´t believe I missed this video! I got mine on september I think. Pretty used, with no gear but well repaired. With an older outrunner. I used Arthur RCs very low rates and already the maiden was a blast. I think I posted you maybe a video :) I even did some really cool low high alphas as well as a nice high alpha landing. Now after around 50 flights I gave it away but ONLY because I´ll probably get a super cheap new one :D With the new fan and gear :) I´ve changed the fan already and put an 8S esc but it wasn´t balanced I think and those flight weren´t so cool. Top speed "just" 193 km/h I think... I couldn´t wait to watch the complete video to comment so now I will ENJOY THIS VIDEO :D Best wishes for 2025 from Grafing, Bavaria, Germany

[@ficosk8]

This was me... My youtube changed accounts to my other email...

[@braddarnell2498]

It’s the most fun EDF on the market and only $329. Love mine!

[@tonyyimbo]

How did you take the sensitivity

[@braddarnell2498]

@@tonyyimbo My maiden was almost a crash and it took every skill I had to get it on the ground. Be careful on the aileron rates. It was so quick it was uncontrollably! After I tamed it down though it’s been a blast

[@tonyyimbo]

@@braddarnell2498 wow I know that feeling too well . Those recommended settings don’t sound too easy to manage

[@tomheetderks9997]

Epic finish!! 🤣🤣Never give up, people! Even when they crash, just keep on flying, lol

[@rcjrpilot]

Totally awesome that’s the best video I ever saw and love the review You do on your videos.

[@FoolishSamuraiArmory]

Hi John. My brother and I have been watching your videos religiously after buying a pair of sport cub S2’s to mess around with. We want to eventually move on to a trainer jet and get good enough to fly the B1 that you reviewed. We bought them on a whim but we are quickly going down the rabbit hole of RC aircraft 😂 Cheers

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'll get there - keep practicing!

[@biggnasty989]

Just in time before I head out to the field. Now I'm going to inverted high alpha today with my Rafale. And bro, you are making me want to purchase this jet TODAY!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Rafale can do it - but just be careful, otherwise you'll end up like we did!

[@markmiranda2881]

My buddy pulled the gear and flues it like a turbine with thrust vectoring. It can do some wicked hovering stunts in belly lander form.

[@RegondiMusic]

thank you.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Sure.

[@nirlachman007]

Love it!!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Good to see you again, m8!

[@nirlachman007]

@@TwoBrosRC I watch all your videos buddy :) every Saturday ❤️

[@Reptielenfreak]

I have the mirage 2000 as well, awesome to see what you can do. I need to make changes to the rates because to me at 100% its like watching a drill in a the air haha. So i just do high alphas, speed passes but its solid, landing gear is grass proof as can be

[@TwoBrosRC]

You can keep the rates high but run high expo. It won't feel any different in the center of the stick, but you'll have that extreme maneuverability if you want it at the end of the sticks.

[@lordjoechu]

I have one of these as well. Hardest plane to fly and I also can’t get the gyro to work correct. I have mine setup to only come on when the gear is down. With that said it’s still a lot of fun. Had a Elevon servo fail and had to bring it back using thrust roll and rudder. Purposely landed in a bush to minimize repairs.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It took a bit of work to get the gyro to stabilize it right - throttle-based gains are an absolute MUST with this jet if you want to have gyro gains that are useful at various speeds.

[@lordjoechu]

Once you have a good curve down for the throttle to gain would you mind sharing a video of that.

[@tonyyimbo]

@@TwoBrosRC what happens when flying low and you need full thrust and also full surfaces. do you get in trouble in those situations?

[@s737500]

Maidened one of these for one of the guys at the club.....it just had 100% travel on everything.....do you think it could roll fast 🤣😂 A bit of a handfull, but got it down safe

[@TwoBrosRC]

Zero expo too? lol

[@s737500]

@@TwoBrosRC yea.....EXTREMLY twitchy 😁

[@edwardranno7119]

Nice crash,you made it look easy!

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

I wonder what wes jets rates were on ailerons it looked very tamed! Your flights were amazing though im so glad you finally dropped this vid brother

[@TwoBrosRC]

His was definitely not set up like this - but that's OK, it's still very capable on the stock elevon servos.

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

@TwoBrosRC I'm no where close to yalls skills, I just don't want it to corkscrew because I got overzealous lmao the roll rate is insane

[@dooddrones6521]

Great video and review! Is this the same airframe as the 70mm version? I had a friend give me one (the 70mm) that I managed to break while doing a taxi test that turned into an impromptu 1ft high flight test. I can attest to how quickly the thing reacts to control inputs. Broke the landing gear and the wood "plate" in the fuselage that mounts it when I quickly reacted to put her back down. I recreated that plate and had it cut out of carbon fiber and it fits perfectly. Still need to finish the rest of the repairs but I'm excited to actually get it in the air. Also, I'd get away from the AS3X stuff, it's just too limited in what it does. I bet that thing would fly better with any iNav flight controller right out of the box, no tuning at all (Just set some rates).

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea if it was originally a 70mm or not. It certainly looks and feels like a 70, and is scaled like a 70. AS3X works great for model aircraft - having a flight controller is neat but it's added weight and complexity.

[@dooddrones6521]

@@TwoBrosRC Yeah it looks like they took the same airframe and just swapped it over to an 80mm. I don't see the 70mm or any mention of it on their website anymore but it looks all the same. As for the flight controller. I have flight controller+ receivers that when wired together still weigh less than something like a AR630. Sure there's more complexity but it's worth it. Especially for a nice flying plane. (And I'd argue required if you want to do any FPV)

[@RagsHSC-7]

Hey John!, I seen how you drilled it into the dirt. Have you ever thought about having a VR cam on it. So you can fly beyond The limits of your own eyes. That's a game changer and with the twr of that mirage 2K you can really go for a ride and all of your RC models. My favorites are the seaplanes. Really love them. Love the last one I just wish it would have landed in the water even if it was a touch-in go. I can see the mirage the centerpoint seems to be skewed towards the rear. I understand it has a large engine in the rear but with the large Delta wing on the real mirage 2K would be a little more forward. Maybe if you put a VR cam in the front to give the aircrafts Vue or a pilot type of view of the AOA. But the twr is outrageously awesome! 👊😎 Ps, ps with the new CNC machines that people have at home with metals and plastics. You could make a empty box with fins on it for your battery. Like an outboard engine air cooled engine. Set it on the battery with air running across it. The metal will absorb the heat and extract it while the air cools it. Don't know if you have room inside the aircraft to do that so it'll stay cool in flight or when you take it out and swap it out it can be cooling down and charging at the same time. Done that tried that and it works really well.

[@TwoBrosRC]

FPV will be something we get into when finances allow for it.

[@RagsHSC-7]

@@TwoBrosRC You're not by yourself brother. That would be a good goal to get to though on your journey here. There are things that I'd like to get for my cockpit for my flight Sims and very hard to come by saving pennies on my VA disability. I really enjoy your shows which are air shows to me they are. I love them! I think they're great. I really love to see planes. I thought about getting into RC aircrafts but I'm an Old Navy rotor head. I can only imagine what that would cost. I wish you well on your journey for you and your brother. May the Lord bless you immensely so God bless 🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@tonyyimbo]

@@TwoBrosRC The new Walksnail google L with the walksnail gimbal would be a huge bargain. and its crisp!

[@wtfmimshag]

KZbin broken again, i swear jon just recommended taming the rates down on an EDF 😟

[@TwoBrosRC]

Only this one lmao

[@martindelrio1891]

looks somewhat unstable and nervous. how would you compare it to the viper 90? and how would you compare it to the f5 tiger? which is easier to fly? the mirage or the f5?

[@TwoBrosRC]

You can't really compare a delta wing to a sport jet like the Viper or a jet like the F-5. They're nothing alike. Any delta wing jet is easier to fly than an equivalent swept wing jet.

[@rcskybums]

I think that shovel was meant to bury crashed RC planes in the woods.

[@TwoBrosRC]

S I X F E E T U N D E R

[@xXRapToRiXxGamer]

Is that the PNP power system? Or did you change out the EDF for an FMS?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Stock power, no changes made.

[@m-e-m-e-y]

Someone needs to make a 80mm Saab 35 Draken

[@TwoBrosRC]

YES

[@michael88997]

I have a bunch of 5000 packs, think it would fly on those well?

[@TwoBrosRC]

It'll be heavier than the 4400s - that's about as big as we'd recommend going. You COULD fly with more wing load, but it'll be even squirrelier.

[@dazofthemoo1531]

Thats a 'Pro's only' move.

[@rhill7741]

Were ca I buy one at

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's literally in the description lol

[@GasKing]

how about a comparison/ranking on the freewing jets, seems like everyone is the “best”. gets confusing on what to get since most of us can’t get them all.

[@TwoBrosRC]

The problem with this idea is that you can't really compare delta jets to non-deltas. They always fly better because of the larger wing area and lower wing load. Hence why we'll be covering Gripen, Eurofighter, and the J-10 in a "death dorito showdown" coming soon!

[@MT-THNDR207]

I believe your name should be Joseph Stallin

[@TwoBrosRC]

🆗

[@Bigcheif-hm1nt]

Review freewing F-4 please

[@TwoBrosRC]

Are you sending the money to buy it?

[@cjespanola5574]

Please, always show in the video the stick cam..thanks..

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's something we transitioned out of because it's a ton of extra work and the camera doesn't like the NC summer heat. We save stick cam vids for tutorial videos.

[@franciscoduran3688]

OK, super very nice video xD :) I´ll start by the end, it was between strange and sad but funny to see the cut Mirage 20c xD she looked like an manta or that kind of shark with two like horns xD. Super flying! Mine felt very floaty compared to my other models but she did not have any gear anymore and a more lighter edf I think although the housing was aluminum. I´ll try that 150% travel coupled with 75-80% expo. I also increased my travel or dual rates after some flights and confidence to have more agility and difficult conditions. I managed to stall her kzbin.info/www/bejne/barHnISQe9CCpLcsi=s9Jco86TsnxFlXFe&t=290 on like 60° of high alpha an super slow but without gyro and not enough high. With 2-3 m more I would have saved her but as she was repaired with probably the same breakage as yours and reinforced she hold very good :P I hope my new one flies even cooler although she will be a bit more heavy. I´ll try 7S LiIon 4500mAh with around 510g of weight. I´ll just will take care of throttle to keep them cold.But on my old plane it was coming so much air under the cockpit that the LiIon 6S pack was very cold. Ahh and that battery weights just 426g with 4500mAh so another reason for her floatyness ;) I always enjoy your analysis and fun video! Thank you very much! I´ll try a LemonRx gyro also or maybe a 6Ch Spektrum since she has 5 channels... that would be cool :) PS: did you clocked speed? She looked much faster than my one! easely more than 125 mph. I have a bet with a friend so it would be cool to beat him on a stock Mirage :) just need 143 mph...

[@TwoBrosRC]

We don't really care about speed, but happy to hear you enjoyed yours!

[@MT-THNDR207]

AGFRC servos are Chinese, aren't they?

[@TwoBrosRC]

What isn't these days?

[@MT-THNDR207]

@TwoBrosRC A lot, actually. Taiwan, Japan, Korea, USA, etc. And I greatly dislike coreless servos. I'd rather just have to replace the gear set rather than the whole servo. Now, granted, that's probably many triple digits of flights later to wear out the motor. But still, I'd rather the servo last longer than the plane. Also, I'd rather not have a failed coreless motor cause the death of my plane.

[@AL-RCjunkie]

Shame on you, for having fun on youtube. Sinner 😊 👍

[@MatthewDoesStuffRC]

First!

[@ficosk8]

OK, super very nice video xD :) I´ll start by the end, it was between strange and sad but funny to see the cut Mirage 20c xD she looked like an manta or that kind of shark with two like horns xD. Super flying! Mine felt very floaty compared to my other models but she did not have any gear anymore and a more lighter edf I think although the housing was aluminum. I´ll try that 150% travel coupled with 75-80% expo. I also increased my travel or dual rates after some flights and confidence to have more agility and difficult conditions. I managed to stall her kzbin.info/www/bejne/barHnISQe9CCpLcsi=s9Jco86TsnxFlXFe&t=290 on like 60° of high alpha an super slow but without gyro and not enough high. With 2-3 m more I would have saved her but as she was repaired with probably the same breakage as yours and reinforced she hold very good :P I hope my new one flies even cooler although she will be a bit more heavy. I´ll try 7S LiIon 4500mAh with around 510g of weight. I´ll just will take care of throttle to keep them cold.But on my old plane it was coming so much air under the cockpit that the LiIon 6S pack was very cold. Ahh and that battery weights just 426g with 4500mAh so another reason for her floatyness ;) I always enjoy your analysis and fun video! Thank you very much! I´ll try a LemonRx gyro also or maybe a 6Ch Spektrum since she has 5 channels... that would be cool :) PS: did you clocked speed? She looked much faster than my one! easely more than 125 mph. I have a bet with a friend so it would be cool to beat him on a stock Mirage :) just need 143 mph...