THE Fastest Way to Attach Wood to Concrete

This is the ‪@MAXUSACORPTools‬ HN120 high pressure concrete and steel nailer. It'll shoot 2 1/2" nails into concrete and steel. I've been using this for a couple of years, and it is much faster and safer than powder actuated tools. I had the psi at 305 for this. #framing #construction #building

[@donnysheena7306]

Look at that honey comb line in the concrete wall . They got lazy and never vibrate the wall .

[@AwesomeFramers]

That's 100% untrue. What happened is that the walls were poured on a Friday afternoon, trucks 2 hours late. The mud was bad so we sent it back, batch plant closed and they wouldn't send us new mud. We finished the walls the following week and stopped using that batch plant. I'll be documenting it in a full video soon.

[@saintalonzo-martinez1436]

@@AwesomeFramers keep us updated with said video please

[@AC.Prince]

@@AwesomeFramers I read the comment and I see the cold joint , had the same happened to me because of a blow out on a Friday afternoon

[@AwesomeFramers]

@@AC.Prince not a good feeling at all ☹️

[@jasongarza3369]

@@AwesomeFramers these concrete batch companies can make a job really look bad,with bad service and ugly concrete mixes,but the concrete guy will get the blame,had my share of concrete being 4 hours late and in summer time in south tx. Not fun

[@platoeuclid7053]

I have worked in white collar jobs my whole life and occasionally would made condescending comments about trades people. Then I bought a house and tried to fix the deck, re-wire the house, re-paint my house all on my own. Ever since then, these guys are like freaking heroes to me. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😎😎😎😎

[@darwinbodero7872]

It’s arduous, detailed work. At least ideally. Some people just skip the thinking and slap garbage together. But there are people out there who want to build the very best stuff they can muster.

[@platoeuclid7053]

@Eddie D 😂😂👍🏿

[@vt20247]

I always wanted to work in the trade profession. I knew it would be a hard and difficult job....so, I stayed in school and do whatever I can to get a white collar job! But yeah, I never get why people look down or being condescending on trade people. In society we are a team and we need every body; each of us have our station in life based on what we can or can't do!

[@7628739]

Some call them handy men, no matter what you do in the trades or combination of trades your still s professional in the trades, good wo4k!

[@leonelvalleperez8594]

In trades we have a say: from shore everyone knows how to swim. Must respect to you for this comment 👍

[@Dr-wheel-barrow-opperator]

I play this on my Bluetooth speaker so my boss thinks I'm working

[@briankusch8825]

That is hilarious 😂 Best laugh of the day...Thanks

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

Try that on a slab that's been there 40 years.

[@lachlanitis2311]

that's most likely 32 or 40mpa concrete he's nailing into, 40 year old concrete no different .

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

@@lachlanitis2311 I've tried every nail Ramset has to offer on old slabs and they all bent immediately. Do it right and drill a hole and throw a bolt in.

[@jovosedlar3395]

You are not incouraging and he actually works on new concrete. If he had to, he'd use tapcon or something else.

[@joeschmoe7099]

And here I am, hammer drilling and anchoring to code like a sucker 🧐

[@nicholasittzes7224]

These are to merely be partition walls and are not structural. I think most localities will allow this, although I have a slight preference to add construction adhesive...

[@danielandfrancineturner669]

I agree to glue.

[@msk806]

Bolt ❤

[@drewd7824]

Would appreciate if you told us name of tool, size of nails, spacing of nails, length of nails, etc. thank you.

[@vtlynch92]

If you watch on desktop, KZbin hides the description for some reason. Its NOT the caption you see on the video. You have to click the 'three dots' icon at the top right and then select View Description.

[@bryandearth5216]

Yes sir, fastest and best way and you're doing all right same way I do, standing on it to make it flat and flush with the concrete. Only way to use nails in concrete is when it is fresh and new like it is in this case it will actually squish the fresh concrete and cure and hold it

[@rentfredericton366]

Sill gasket under those 2x4's would be nice.

[@EskimoBENNY]

But it’s treated wood so why?

[@indomitusEvehementis]

Treated. No need

[@Big-Char.]

We always glued the bottom plate in addition to nailing it.

[@Ga7cun7sSUCK]

Hahaha FFS mate you peasant! 🤣

[@fakename287]

@@Ga7cun7sSUCK huh?

[@Dubyea]

How, if you use gasket….

[@ryanrents126]

I could watch Seth McFarlane nail boards to concrete all day.

[@tannerbeverley26]

Rogan?

[@ryanrents126]

@@tannerbeverley26 haha nope McFarlane, the Family Guy dude. Especially when Tim has sunglasses on, I can't un-see it

[@mpenrod]

Finally got to use our new gun attaching strapping to CMU on an old commercial building so we can re-side it. That gun is such a blessing! So easy to use and so much easier, less dangerous and quieter than the old bang sticks. An excellent investment I shall say. And it's really as easy as you're making it out to be.

[@nicholasittzes7224]

Sure is quieter, and way faster too. But have you ever heard of someone in your circle having an accident with a Ramset? I haven't, and our own crews used them all the time. Besides that, there will surely be some accidents with these guns, especially at such high pressure.

[@mpenrod]

@@nicholasittzes7224 you are right, at least with us, in regards to accidents with Ramsets. But we've had rounds that don't fire after being struck, which, if lucky only require a reload. Most of the time, they get lodged in the gun and have to be prayed out which requires time. I've also seen people miss the Ramset and hit their wrist with their hammer. So, to me, even at a higher pressure ( which neglects to mention that even at 100-120 psi, regular pressure nails will go through flesh, from 3 1/2 framing to 2" 18g brads, just as easily), this gun is very safe as long as you're not an idiot with it. Plus, when you have around 500 nails to drive into CMU, it's also about 2 days faster, therefore far more productive and profitable.

[@nicholasittzes7224]

@@mpenrod I think if I had to pray for a jammed charge to come out, that could set me back a while too!😂 (Just teasing. I think Autocorrect got ya. ) What's CMU? Steel? I guess I could see the 22 hammer actuated nailer taking quite a while, but we usually used a 25 cal strip fed model with a trigger. That never jammed, but a bunch of rounds with red charges would start to make the hand ache.

[@nicholasittzes7224]

@@mpenrod Btw, what's the recoil like with this thing?

[@mpenrod]

@@nicholasittzes7224 minimal to be honest. I thought it would be more than it is. First shot I braced for like a .50 cal recoil but it's no more than the .22 used in the trigger fired jamerco's. I'll try and upload some footage next week of it when we get back on a job where we've been using it a lot.

[@nicktrayer5426]

I'm impressed. But for all those commenting on this. First you can build on that slab after it as time to set up usually 3days min. But best practices is to wait a week. Second I'm more concerned with the horizontal Crack on the back wall, don't know if it's supporting a dirt hill behind it but my guess is it is. Third you should wait min, of 30 days before framing on concrete walls. Concrete takes a long time to cure when it's that thick. Fourth it looks like you have a vapor barrier where slab meets the wall but it isn't code to put a sill seal on the floor if it already has a vapor barrier. Finally I don't understand why you would be putting the plates down first unless you are going to have a double bottom plate buy that seams dumb, and a waist of material. But there are a tone of ways to build a home. So you do you. But I would like to know the tool name and what pressure you are running at.?

[@seejaypee]

My question exactly about the lack of sill gasket on the floor. I give the benefit of the doubt that MAYBE this is pink wood and I am just not seeing it due to video quality?

[@Ojja78]

This guy has the coolest toys.

[@someguy8109]

No sill gasket .... bottom plate doesn't look treated but even if it is... just put some tar paper or something under there at the least

[@millroyboy07]

Why would you need a membrane under an interior wall plate?

[@someguy8109]

@@millroyboy07 By its very nature, wood absorbs water. By its very nature, concrete is essentially a sponge.

[@sevendust07660]

Looks like PT wood. Has a tag on the side.

[@herbhouston5378]

I like the tool, but I thought it was against code to have wood to concrete without a barrier.

[@sethdistler5332]

We use special treated wood for the bottom plate. Copper azole or something.

[@jasonrupe4903]

PT lumber(Green) on interior walls. Sill seal on exterior walls.

[@jeffhalliday6663]

We use sill gasket or some moisture barrier between wood and concrete

[@tbird475tjk4]

Why would you not frame your walls first, are you going double sill plate or toe nailing the studs

[@tinytattoomike7943]

The comment I was looking for

[@jdcooper2492]

Basically

[@lil--mo2025]

I can’t understand why the walls not built and then placed upright for nailing, but not before construction adhesive is applied under bottom plate?

[@tinytattoomike7943]

The comment I was looking for

[@michaelnewman5625]

Because concrete floors are not perfect. Most of the time stick framed with a chaulk line set to the proper height . Especially on load baring walls in the basement

[@alanmcdermott4290]

Last time I did it I used a hammer and Remington 22 shot.

[@nicholasittzes7224]

I liked my 22 cal hammer actuated nailer. With a heavy hammer, it consistently outperformed the 25 cal trigger operated nailer, even though we used red charges on the 25. Yellows were the biggest I could regularly find for the 22. Easier on the hand, too.

[@heyb6268]

Omg this is amazing lol when I was framing we were using concrete nails. Takes so much longer

[@jacobseymour7743]

Thank you!

[@nickstrieker1550]

I wouldnt worry about how fast you could nail that plate to the floor, i'd be more worried about that cold joint going around the foundation. Concrete should have been sounded or vibrated.As for the plate TapCon screws are better if you have any change orders those ramset nails destroy the concrete surface when removed

[@wesman7837]

You can only do that IF the concrete is SUPER green like it was poured a day or two ago!

[@LegendaryGoetz]

And if its a day old you can shoot it with a hitachi anyways. No issues

[@markthebldr6834]

it's a high pressure concrete nail gun. they can run at 350 psi or something.

[@aliettienne2907]

That nail gun is powerful to say the least. Awesome 👍 work.

[@MrHemi4spd]

No gasket between wood and concrete???

[@BoneStack117]

It's pressure treated

[@bwade1022]

That’s cool! Hard to wrap my mind around how that even works.

[@davidackley4102]

It's just a nail gun with hardened nails. The comments saying the concrete needs to be green are spot on. Once the concrete gets too hard the nail will just shatter the concrete instead of anchoring itself.

[@confucius2616]

I’d use Tapcons before I used concrete nails. Take you a little longer but you’ll never have to worry about the baseplate moving

[@johnly7688]

Amazing stuff. Curious. Will it suck slightly bulged lumber into the slab?

[@ashenmoonclash]

Lordy I didn't even know they had guns like this now. Using the old ramset this weekend on a job. It is satisfying popping out the shells I do have to say though🤣

[@user-lj2cb2pj8j]

Ikr, feel like Sarah Conner

[@richarde735]

NAILED IT!

[@kennethwhite6748]

I don't understand why you aren't running a full plate through on layout then flush cutting after

[@SaerTurner-wn2qh]

I love the Max air ..what compressor you running I use to use the Vmac on my truck for running the ones on my jobs Crank it up to 300psi and good to go ..

[@AwesomeFramers]

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[@andersconsack4316]

No poly?

[@kimmohr5041]

That’s awesome where it’s up to code. I wish it was approved here in western Arizona.

[@kcChicken123]

That is fast. Just like me. Quick on the draw

[@me_TJ_MrB]

I was told that there should always be a barrier between concrete and wood because the concrete would cause the wood to break down over time. Is that not true ? I was given a building estimate that contained pricing for this barrier material. It wasn't expensive really but it was going to require the material at every point where wood and concrete met.

[@bike4peaceRTW]

Yes. Even when using PT lumber (which he is) you should still use a sil gasket.

[@7628739]

Rocks my socks , I need this!!

[@georgejohnson807]

What’s the name of this nail gun

[@AwesomeFramers]

www.toolbarn.com/products/maxtools-hn120 You'll need a high pressure compressor

[@bill360]

You have the precision hands as a seasoned surgeon 😉

[@randyschuster3488]

No vapor barrier between the floor and treated lumber

[@bruceboyer6756]

Works well with green concrete

[@22KingRancher]

I thought these guns were great until I saw the $1000 price tag. I was also told you need a bigger compressor. Think I’ll stick to my ramset ;)

[@nicholasittzes7224]

Sacred Bovine! (Holy cow!) I suppose you would save a little not having to buy the powder blanks, and some on labor, but I think payback time would be immense!

[@mpenrod]

The difference is, it's a high pressure compressor and it's actually smaller than most but I get what you mean. If you have other guns for it, it's totally worth it. We have the high pressure framing nailer, high pressure just hanger nailer and this concrete/ steel Pinner. The framing nailer is around 40% lighter than our stick framer plus it holds around 150 nails at a time which makes getting into a rhythm much easier. The joist hanger nailer is also nice and light and way faster than hand driving and hold around 50 nails in a clip. It's already paid for itself in our company. Same goes for the concrete pinner. We only used the hammer actuated Ramset so between the two, the difference is obviously night and day (depending) on how many nails you drive. We just recently strapped an old block building to reside it and this made us way more efficient on this job. Same with a deck ledger attached to a poured foundation. We anchored it with the nails and then went back and drilled it for Titen HD screws. Way easier.

[@Matt_justlikethat]

What r u shooting? Fasteners?

[@nathahne9917]

You forgot the plastic or gasket

[@joebach087]

Looks like treated wood, plastic gasket crap not needed

[@Mark-gt9yv]

@@joebach087 a gasket is always required when would touches concrete, regardless of it being pressure treated

[@joebach087]

@@Mark-gt9yv no it's not, only if it's not pressure treated. If it's pressure treated lumber it doesn't matter

[@bend4852]

I don't think that's required if you're using pressure treated but it definitely wouldn't hurt. You never know when your house will flood

[@realworldcarpentryremodeli5868]

The sill sealer ( plastic gasket) is used to stop drafts and seal any irregularity in foundation to sill . It’s not needed on interior walls.

[@Deebo420]

show us how good it holds pls

[@aaronlong6491]

Are you also using the 500 psi compressor?

[@brcm542]

Fastest way to pin concrete but not to frame

[@calebreed73]

Do people not build walls and stand them anymore? I see a lot of videos like this where they will be toe nailing the studs to the bottom plate.

[@AwesomeFramers]

Look through my channel and you'll see most of what we build is as you describe and bigger. These are basement walls.

[@calebreed73]

@@AwesomeFramers so are they not carrying a load from the floor above?

[@AwesomeFramers]

@@calebreed73 most walls do not. Some will.

[@mehoffjack1874]

Does this slab have in floor heat? And if not. What’s the process of building walls on a floor with in floor heat.

[@3870822]

Why not frame to walls first?

[@Clovethelightrespectthepower]

Link the gun bro I want that 10 gauge of a nailer

[@marksweeney5237]

Now what? Are you going to stick frame and toenail studs to the green plate. Drop in Anchor Bolts in the slab

[@stanleybrown1151]

What kind of gun you using here?

[@johnbagewll2321]

Just a question: why is he not pre-building his walls and standing them up?

[@Stillpit]

What is that gun called? Does it only shoot the mail into concrete when it’s fresh? Or any time after it’s dry

[@gabriellizama2693]

hey it looks like you got your room to frame those walls and stand it up not a stick framing

[@ethanwestbrook9853]

And here I am smacking a ramset with a hammer ...

[@Tigerratcat]

Does this weaken the concrete?

[@faviles2935]

What gun is this ? Would you mind sharing for those of us who don’t know

[@jolookstothestars6358]

Can we please give those to the framers here in Arkansas!!

[@bobbydelcavallo7181]

Absolutely marvelous 🥳🥳🥳

[@alextomlinson]

These guns will fire through 4mm steel as well. May need to finish off nails with the old hammer but it penetrates

[@koolaidman239]

And I’ve been using tapcons…

[@robertsmitg6884]

Can somebody tell me the name of this gun

[@sanxhez5611]

Max HN120. It's one of the nailers on the PowerLite High Pressure System. Max Corps HP Compressor delivers up to 500psi and this gun requires almost 300psi to shoot. Price for both with air hose-$2500

[@cweedmbr]

No dpc under plate?

[@CB-pt2uo]

The fastest way to attach your toes to wood and concrete.

[@tletletlchiltik1188]

Maybe wait to get lay out and frame your wall before your secure it to the ground.

[@user-bq1xc2jq8f]

What kind of nail gun is that. I have foundation set for garage but no idea how to attach wood frame to it

[@AwesomeFramers]

info in the video description. I also have a video coming out about attaching wood to concrete and 4 different ways of doing it. It should also be on your plans.

[@notguilty1467]

so what’s the fix for? a kicker? if so i might beef it up a bit. obv systems are different and here we use 4x3 but! man if its a kicker use an excalibur. er concrete screw. you need to hold the shutter down AND defeat shear

[@amomentwithanimals7429]

What kind of gun is that? It's not often I have to secure something to concrete but when I do, I use a Ramset or J-bolts . I'm really interested in what you're using though. Did you pre-drill those holes or something?

[@kristopherluster6709]

Check out the description. Really doesn’t look like he pre-drilled at all. 305 psi. I just wonder if it really hold as well over time as traditional methods. Doesn’t look to be sucking down those base plates very well

[@davidcarranza6626]

2 1/2 nails? What is the plastic over the front there?

[@punmarvel]

Oh a nail gun. Dang that’s impressive

[@fuq6939]

If it is code great if not I'll use redheads anchors

[@mickey.....]

Slab was poured 12 hrs ago

[@quintonbryde8563]

Must be pretty green

[@jennifergunther7281]

Not a framing nailer- it’s made to shoot into concrete and steel

[@jonblakemore6454]

Check out Max high pressure guns

[@delegate104]

so no glue?

[@matt800m6]

What length pinner do you use

[@aaronkosminski4257]

No glue?

[@johnnyjohnson7137]

What Air Compressor are you using to run that nail gun?

[@AwesomeFramers]

www.toolbarn.com/products/maxtools-hpstarterkit-hn90f

[@benjaminziegler7437]

this guys a mailman now too?

[@friendlyoldbum9182]

Anchor bolts for me. Only work I do like this is for me or family/ mates, I'm not trying to save minutes.

[@letthe6.0sing22]

What gun is that

[@jbright97]

Why wouldn't you build the wall first, tilt into place then attach to floor.

[@coltonknowles1314]

Im a plumber but anytime i did this, i used anchors or beefy tapcons how does a nailgun secure a board to concrete that just blows my mind

[@darwinbodero7872]

It drives that nail into the rock with stupid amounts of force.

[@rileyfenley522]

The 305 psi of air thats being put into the gun.

[@mikesweis9074]

Is this up to code for a nonbearing wall?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Yes

[@andrewc6385]

No sill gasket? Hack

[@AlstarPalmer]

Only works on new concrete

[@duramaxmak]

What's the name of the gun

[@chipburns4123]

Why do the walls like that?

[@markthebldr6834]

$3000 plus for that setup. also it seems to bust the concrete out sometimes. those nails are expensive too.

[@tuffguy007]

Not for interior walls, I don’t think. Maybe cabinets?

[@dickbutt7854]

305psi?

[@ricardogdnb]

isnt it supposed to have some form of insulation against moisture underneath the wood? its odd attaching wood to concrete directly

[@AwesomeFramers]

As commented many times here, no because this is pressure treated wood (made for this) over a slab which sits over 12" pea gravel and 2" foam insulation.

[@Barabbas7798]

Saw one of these first time rhe other day

[@richardcampbell99]

Where is the sill seal? The barrier between the concrete and the framing.

[@AwesomeFramers]

It isn't needed because this is pressure treated lumber

[@davidflores1127]

What gun is thar

[@joepapa2737]

Fast yes, but a concrete anchor would be best

[@AwesomeFramers]

Why? On a wood floor we nail walls to the floor. Have you looked at the rating for these nails?

[@ghostt703]

Check the description and this looks a sweet tool to have for framing

[@seejaypee]

Where is the sill gasket? Or is that pink wood?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Its pressure treated wood, there is no need for sill gasket. Especially when considering there is a vapor retarder and 2" foam under the slab.

[@noellynchard4158]

Try that on cured concrete no happening

[@OsmarPonce]

still works

[@jennifergunther7281]

Not a framing nailer- it’s made for concrete and steel

[@mpenrod]

At roughly 320 psi, it'll work

[@jeremiasspeaking2893]

Hola amigo quiero hacer una casa de madera pequeña pero no sé las medidas y el procedimiento para hacer el piso o la pared.