The fastest way to get your money back with DIY solar with Grid tie inverters Micro

[@trevortrevortsr2]

I use a couple slightly bigger 600watt grid tie micro inverters in my workshop - with solar panels surplus so put them on it's roof - I reasoned that I wanted a simple system to harvest the power - I don't think my meter runs backwards - what it does is use the solar to reduce the use from the grid in the day for background consumption like PC and fridge - they do tend to run hot once you pass half their rated capacity and an internal fan comes on - I run a tiny fan over them on very hot days and it really helps

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

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[@AskIveSolar]

I love that you keep making these kind of videos!

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@AskIveSolar thanks man. I appreciate the comment and people are asking questions and then instead of just writing them a message back I just make a video so then I could clarify it for everybody

[@ruslanwel]

1. There are already similar cheap microinverters but with Limiter Sensor :) 2. This math is valid if you consume ALL energy produced and not limit 3. There are devices called "watt routers". This works the opposite of limiter. So, you are not limiting generation, at the same time this device directs ONLY EXCESS energy to the active load (water heating). I used this method until I bought batteries. This is the best way for the fastest payback because all the energy is used and you don't pay for export.

[@takenpictures]

Can you please point me in the right direction of these microinverters?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

All good info

[@ruslanwel]

@@takenpictures I saw on aliexpress, "Limiter Sensor Micro Inverter MPPT for Solar PV Grid Tie System", gray one. I have never used these cheap models, I have 2 Hoymiles, but I was surprised that cheap microinverter with limiter exists

[@MarkSpohr]

I have several small 600W microinverters with 600W solar on each. Easy, cheap. Just plug it into the panels and an outlet. (Paid for themselves in less than a year.) I have net metering so I get credit for any excess power. ( I set up net metering for my grid connected arrays.) You have good advice on power limiting inverters when you don't have net metering.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@MarkSpohr that's amazing ... So how do you have this net metering? Do you have a second meter installed in your house? What country you live in ? Because here where I live there is a big problem within that net metering because they don't want to offer it unless you install a secondary meter to be able to subtract from your main meter.

[@MarkSpohr]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews I'm in Northern California (mountains) and our small local utility offers net metering when you install solar. I get 1:1 credit for any power I feed back to the grid. The power company installed a "bi-directional" meter which keeps separate totals of power into the house and power out of the house. My electric bill shows these totals each month and any excess is banked until the end of the year. I build up a large surplus in the summer which usually lasts until the end of the year so I have a $0 bill from about April through December.

[@vevenaneathna]

my phev has 200w of solar which backfeeds my house once its full through one of these lol. i rent so i thought it made the most sense. got one of those usb-c routers that uses 2-4w, changed my modem to use usb-c and ran it into a gan power brick so it only uses 3-4w, unplugged my door bell which saves like 5w, got a dc fridge which i modded to use 28v from a usb-c gan pd3.1 charger with low emissivity tape all over it and only uses ~120wh/day. actually saves power coz we dont open the main fridge as much. added those PIR motion sensor lights to all the undercounter spots in my house and doorway so we keep the light soff and they just turn on when you walk by. so many things you can do to save power

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Oh wow you went to the extreme

[@ericallen2167]

Great advice. Thanks for the content 👌🏻

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@ericallen2167 again, thanks for watching. I really appreciate the comment

[@ericallen2167]

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[@Xander-p5c]

Thanks for the update, I have this same setup with 1 inverter and 600w solar. I just purchased another 600w of solar waiting to install. No batteries. After watching your previous video, it solved my question about the meter. My question now is, what would you have done differently, a 220v inverter you can hook up to both lines? Is there any particular model? Before i go any further, im going to evaluate the options. Also, I don't think we can clamp both lines to run the sum to this 1 inverter. Thanks

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@Xander-p5c any 220v model connects to the entire phase

[@xpressivemusic4578]

how do you hook this to a battery for storage?

[@PazLeBon]

i havent connected to the grid even tho its there so not sure why renting their services?

[@sectokia1909]

Here in Australia the best way to make return quick is to not pay for anything, but pick up other peoples thrown out solar systems. We used to have government subisidies for 1.5kW systems, that are now in place for 5kW systems, so there are people basically throwing out 1.5kW systems. After a few months hitting up facebook market place each day I have been able to get get 3kW of panels and 4kW of grid tie inverters - for free. The reason is that here in Australia disposing of solar panels is illegal - you have to pay ~$15 per panel to recycle them, so the value of used panels is negative, and people will give them away for free.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I've tried to scavenge solar panels on the local marketplace but I've ended up with all kinds of voltages and amps ratings and they didn't really match very well. So when I found the deal on Amazon which was better than what people were offering to sell used, I just jumped on it. I still have some matched and mixed panels but the majority are just from one brand which was selling for $0.50 per dollar, people in Vegas where I live are absolutely insane and unreasonable how much they are asking for a used panel. Sometimes $1 per what they're nuts because they have no clue what they're selling. So they think that they have gold when they're worthless and the new is cheaper

[@MatthewBayard]

Im in Melb. what are you doing with the homemade systems?

[@ElAdri1999]

Can´t you ask your company to adapt your meter to accept input? here you can do it, costs about 50€ one time and you can pay it back super quick

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@ElAdri1999 nope .. they don't want to do that because they lose money, here there are taxes on each kilowatt that you buy that the local government is also losing so there's so many people that they have to go through. It's not worth it for them so they're in a business to sell you stuff which is electricity

[@ElAdri1999]

@VegasRoManiacReviews in Spain they are forced by the government to do it, you need to do some papers and they charge you the sun tax on sold power, about 20% and they pay you at like 7-9c/kWh, while you pay like 12-15c/kWh

[@st200ol]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews Its not just about losing money, its also about balancing the grid. If enough people do this the grid could easily end up with too much power on a sunny day. If people were allowed to export power with no approval they wouldn't know who to contact in the even of local power surges. That's one of my concerns with a solar investment, there is no guarantee. in the future that they will always want your power on a sunny windy day.

[@blainecelestaine4543]

0 export and point of consumption POC is the future of small installation. Its ironic that the 3devices with the best 0 export features are the least copied or supported . Higher voltage equipment 96 v and higher would also be good imo. Which gtil kinda supports not 96 but close. What is the longest life you have gotten out of 1 those blue inverters. ?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

True .. they pay nothing to export power .. so it's the best solution

[@dungho3569]

You produce all your electricity with that $4000 system? Please give me link where you shop for your system, thank you

[@robertrice4441]

Do you have to worry about back feeding the main line if the power goes out thus jeopardizing the safety of the repair linemen?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@robertrice4441 no , these inverters go offline if power goes out

[@oddzc]

How do you prevent electrocution?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@oddzc by working with low voltage only .. dont couch high voltage , 220 and up

[@jayj4ysmith]

I don’t see a link for the blue inverters

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

You are right , here it is amzn.to/3V8r9Dd. I also corrected the video

[@franscocoa6875]

GTI saya mirip seperti itu rusak setelah 1 tahun, saya sudah melepas tape biru sebelum pemakaian dan menambahkan kipas pendingin, setelah dibongkar tidak terlihat kerusakan

[@skyl4rk]

Is there a device that will tell me whole house instataneous power consumption? And track it on a graph?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@skyl4rk emporia whole house monitor

[@TimeSurfer206]

I can do this on my Utility's Web Site. Daily totals of consumption, and 24 hour load graphs.

[@dsmith6404]

What if I have a smart meter ??

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

@@dsmith6404 I have a smart meter so everything that I said in this video is true to Smart meters

[@PazLeBon]

smash it, lots of horror stories haha