The Fastest Way To Rank Up In Elite Dangerous S4 EP31

[@pattef]

Have to say, your videos made it possible for me to get into elite dangerous. I bought it years ago and it was really cool but at the time there wasn't a whole lot of straightforward information about how the game operates and your videos introduced the basic interface and operation of the game very concisely while remaining informative. So for that, I have you to thank for finally getting me into a space exploration sim that offers what Elite Dangerous does. Now my evenings are filled with space stuff while watching space tv shows or listening to popular sci-fi music. Keep up the awesome videos!

[@janesdisorder1565]

That intro... LOL

[@TroaBarton]

:D

[@janesdisorder1565]

Yes i do lol.

[@arrynroyce72]

Hold onto your butts...

[@HirXeBomb]

Fehu system doesn't supply any Empire charity missions after wasting 30 min. there today, all you get is charity missions for Independent minor factions!!! Tamar system gives 1 or 2 Empire charity mission every 10 min. of relogging back and forth in Open/Solo and private. Anyone got a nice Empire system and station where it gives a little bit more Charity missions? Tun system is still the best system for Federation charity missions, last night ranked up 3 times in 2 hours until Rear admiral. You can cycle through Open/Solo and Private in 10 min. and stack between 15 to 30 charity missions!

[@julianpearce218]

+HirXeBomb Thanks for that, i'll give Tun a try

[@MRPB54]

+HirXeBomb dam no wonder I was trying Fehu yesterday and yeah 4 charity missions did nothing for me so I guess ill try Tamar today :D

[@julianpearce218]

Yeah, Troa says that any charity mission will do, but that's only really true in stations where only Fed or Empire are the only major faction represented. You do need to check that the minor faction offering the charity mission is not an independent.

[@MRPB54]

-_- yup this is getting annoying but guess ill try to search a bit more around thnks for the tip

[@octogon6695]

+HirXeBomb Tun and 17Draconis for Fed, but i haven't found good systems for empire. Still looking for :/ I have made to Baron in Cubeo/Weasel station but it as long as hell.

[@Byatto]

anyone know where the best Empire charity system is at the moment?

[@zermysplayground6096]

This may be late news, but on Cubeo, if you land on the south pole of the one landable planet there is a station that contentiously gives out attack the base missions for one specific base. So instead of grinding for cherity missions you can grind for ground attack missions and then when you succeed have a pretty wall of mission complete notifications :D

[@nxstripp7211]

+Brandon Zermeno Sad but true.

[@SlimJim4101]

This is fantastic, thank you for it. Also, what I found out, and seems to be true for the ranks Lieutenant to Post Commander, is that when doing Charity Missions, the amount of credits you would spend on the credit based ones seemed to be directly related to the percent that you earn, which was about 10,000 credits for 1%. I can't say for certain, but that's just what it looked like.

[@TroaBarton]

No worries thanks for watching and commenting :) I can't say with 100% certainty how much it is per rank because they aren't rounded numbers and there's no way to tell how much I've donated so I stayed to the side of caution.

[@TroaBarton]

Found a new one for the federation on accident. G 218-5 is a good federation charity system.

[@blazer666del]

+Troa Barton Went there (Cooper Platform) There was a charity mission. I did it. then Logged out went to solo Play, nothing. Repeated in private play and again nothing there. Does this really work?

[@stnicholas678]

+Troa Barton Bounds Hub in Alrai is a nice secondary for jumping back and forth if needed.

[@liamwatts5267]

+Troa Barton Best current federation ranking spot is at TUN.

[@HeyGuy4321]

I'm a bit late but the chain of Fed outposts to Maia are all charity ones.. Got allied in 1 day. Crazy gain on rank

[@ohthecaptain]

over a year later but just got into the ranking up system. I've tried sothis/ ceos, 17 draconis, and Tun. sothis/ ceos has been the most reliable of the 3 but it is very slow due to how long it takes to get 20 data delivery missions. 17 draconis spawns donation missions at a painfully slow rate and stops giving them after completing about 6-8 donations. Tun just doesn't have many missions that take me to the same place to drop. Any advice?

[@TzuDevil]

I had some reasonable consistency at Cubeo (Medupe). Average of 2 per cycle.... and they seem to ask for food cartrgs and basic medicines which are available at the station itself. Only other thing I have seen is performance enhancers, so bring some. Nothing like 17 Draconis for Fed, but everything in Empire is really dry.

[@drondronov13]

Found what could be another charity location for Federation: MS Draconis system Piper Holdings station. Doesn't beat Tun though. Anyone found new good Empire charity locations besides Cubeo/Tamar?

[@Krevra]

Very clear simple guide with great examples, went to Tun, found a bunch of charity missions, thanks.

[@TroaBarton]

Thank you, happy to hear it worked out for you :)

[@MaxPenford]

How do you get the ascension missions. I'm at 100% without a rank for both powers, but neither have given me a mission

[@CGPT76]

this is a great guide!! I need to rank up to buy the Corvette and the Cutter! Nice

[@TroaBarton]

Thank you very much! Good luck commander o7

[@drewc3350]

"The only thing that affects your rank is missions." Then why did I go up in rank when i killed pirates in a resource extraction site?

[@TroaBarton]

You've been getting reputation

[@achimhanischdorfer3403]

+Trevock1 You have to be at an exploited system. Controlled or independend systems do not give you rank for bounty hunting. For looking to get Empire rep by bounty hunting you have to be in a system exploited by Lavigny Duval I think (you know the Empress). For getting Federal Rep by bounty hunting you have to be in a system exploited by Zachary Hudson.

[@nxstripp7211]

+Trevock1 Because everything you turn in affects rank to one degree or another. Some more than others. Good that you noticed that.

[@Droogie128]

Cubeo surface missions do pretty good. You can stack them. Also, any missions labeled "Classified Data Transportation" will give a lot of rep. They have short timers, so they're hard to stack. They also fail on scan. However, they give a lot of rank. I went from squire to baron in one day doing them.

[@wayneyessir6350]

CMDR TROA. Gonna come back to ED and wondering how effective these tips still are. Your help is appreciated. Thanks.

[@emotown1]

Since charity missions are about the only damn self-explanatory, bleedingly obvious ones i can complete without risking an irreversible mental breakdown, this comes as good news indeed.

[@TroaBarton]

Hahaha, very true indeed.

[@titososa2080]

Random question: how did you change the background image for your start menu? looks totally rad

[@TroaBarton]

Horizons has a different background :)

[@titososa2080]

+Troa Barton thanks brother!

[@TroaBarton]

+Tito Sosa oh yeeeaaahhhh brother!

[@DARIVSARCHITECTVS]

This probably the BEST tutorial I have seen yet! Thanks!

[@opcijuc]

First of all, thanks for the sum up of the systems. Cheers for that. Quince have smuggling as you said, but you need to shuffle the BB quite a lot... and then when they pop, they pop in like 3-4 some in the same systems/outposts so its nice to stack them up and do them altogether. However, amount of chat spam and interdictions is hilarious. You will literally be interdicted back-to-back if you stack a lot of them. As in "interdiction", you evade, and immediately you get another one. Due to scan mechanics, I suggest you upgrade thrusters and power distributor so that you can double boost away from them since it doesn't matter who scan you, they will fail if they do...

[@Brackynews]

This is going to make my Robigo runs feel a lot more like robin hooding! :) Liked the video immediately at 3:00 when you said "this may go out of date". :)

[@funchameleon68]

So now that those charity missions are gone, what is the fastest way to gain rank?

[@spoder5691]

nothing like skipping sleep to play KOTOR 1/2 and watching some videos by a champ in a delirious state

[@IscariottActual]

I seem to be getting the most benefit out of doing 'classified data transmission' missions. 6% at knight

[@TroaBarton]

Early on that will be the case, higher ranks will take a lot longer, just like your combat or trade rank.

[@SylonHD]

Hey thanks for making this video, even if it's out of date or whatever, I still learned a lot. You sir, have one new subscriber.

[@TroaBarton]

Awesome thank you! But it is still in date, the availability of the missions will change due to the background simulation. When 2.1 is released this will hopefully change for the better and I'll take another look at it then in the beta.

[@TroaBarton]

Awesome thank you! But it is still in date, the availability of the missions will change due to the background simulation. When 2.1 is released this will hopefully change for the better and I'll take another look at it then in the beta.

[@SylonHD]

+Troa Barton I gave Tun a try (I'm on Xb1) and was able to get quite a few charity missions to show up. And now that I have my kitted AspX, I'll have to start making my rounds to the other systems you mentioned. Thanks again!

[@PaulAndHarris]

So how do you find a charity mission station? What's the key? How did you find the ones that you found without visiting 10000 systems?

[@TroaBarton]

Lots of research and dumb luck, I really can't replicate whatever it is to find charity systems. Either I'm missing something or whatever it is that causes it isn't a metric we as players can see.

[@PaulAndHarris]

+Troa Barton Wow, thanks for the quick reply! There must be some commonality between these systems. I wish it wasn't so hidden

[@TroaBarton]

+Vux911 no worries, I just happened to be looking at my mobile when you wrote that :) Same here, starting to feel like Johnny Five.. "Need input!!"

[@FluffyAisu]

Do stations suffering from UA have donation missions to repair the station? Maybe we can influence an empire system into hell by giving it UAs.

[@zombiegandhi8405]

That was actually a rather clever opening. Props to you.

[@pythagorasaurusrex9853]

My experience for the Fed is: If you like risky game fun and long travel smuggling while making a hell of credits (when you are successful!), then 17 Draconis is simply the best. If you like to stay within the bubble, then Tun is your choice. I tried Taribes, but this one is not as good as the latter. One I found, but don't know if it is still that good at time of writing, is Largaruyu. I haven't testest Exbeu so far, but will definitely give it a try. For the Empire, my experience is: 1. Cubeo, 2. HR 1064. This system is also a good system for imp Slave trading, as this is a spot with one of the cheapest pricees for buying Imp slaves. Quince is good, if you are into long range smuggling.

[@CFMaximus]

Good video, however something you may have overlooked is Classified Data Transport missions and Classified Cargo Transport missions (both types have the jagged signal icon at the bottom). These are simple A to B fedexing missions with the added caveat that they will be failed if you get scanned along the way. At first glance they hardly get you any credits, so I suspect CMDRs write them off as likely being bad for naval rank as well. But I have found that they have the potential to get you massive chunks of rank per turn-in, especially the ones that send you far. So using a small or medium exploration ship with outfitted with some cargo racks is ideal for picking these up. ASP Explorer is probably the holy grail for this, but a Cobra MKIII would work fine too. Cargo capacity does not have to be massive. You could probably get away with having a max capacity of around 30 tons. Whatever ship you choose, it needs to be fast enough to dodge scans. That, or rely on silent running I suppose. At the rank of Count with the Empire, long range Classified missions are getting me up to 5 percent per single mission turn-in (at lower ranks they were getting me quite a bit more, 7 percent at the previous rank Viscount, and 10 percent before that, so there is some steep drop-off as you climb to higher ranks). For added perspective, I should mention that Charity missions generally only grant around 1 percent, and other, non-charity missions do not even grant a full percent. So, doing some napkin math I figure Classified missions are worth around 10 times more than other, non-charity missions and probably around 5 times your average Charity mission. You can expect the good ones to send you between 60 to 120 light years away. Which, in an ASP Explorer maxed for exploration/hauling, is going to be around 3 to 5 jumps. Each jump takes about a minute, maybe less. So my strategy is to station hop in a system that I can expect to have a fair amount of charity missions and turn all those in, and pick up as many Classified missions as possible (only for factions aligned with the Empire, of course), do what I can within the time constraints allotted, then return and repeat the process. Ranking up this way has been effective. If things continue to go as planned, I'll have gone from being unranked with the Empire, to Duke, in 2 weeks, playing 4 hours per day on weekdays and 8+ hours per day on weekends. As of this writing however there is a glitch which sometimes produces Classified Data Transport missions that cannot be completed. You'll know which ones these are if they have an NPCs name as the target, instead of a station/outpost. So don't pick those up. One other thing to keep in mind, is that Classified Data Transport missions are unlocked based on your Exploration rank, while Classified Cargo Transport missions are based on your Tranding rank. So if you are low ranked in either areas, the best missions will not be available to you.

[@nxstripp7211]

+Biozeminade This is good information.

[@CFMaximus]

+NXS Tripp Thank you. Checking in here to confirm that I hit my 2 week "deadline" for hitting Duke. The Cubeo system was my base of operations. I am now making ultimate bank in my trade Cutter. After spending another week making around 200 million credits with my new ship, I decided to go finish off my rank with the Federation, which thanks to systems like Tun, is a joke, because you can just keep relogging at one station while cycling through game modes (open/private group/solo) and spamming the piles of charity missions that are produced there. Went from Petty Officer to Rear Admiral in 2 days of intense charity mission farming. This is unfortunately not viable with the Empire, as systems like Tun do not seem to exist for them. Will be trying out the Federal Corvette after the next major patch, which is adding new Class 4 weapons and overhauling the mission system.

[@bencilius1]

i HAVE found so far that if the eff on rep says high the rank % increases more then on low rep missions. maybe coincidence but hmmm

[@7e21]

I love your videos! Try adding more tags... "gain rank" for example... will help people to find your videos :)

[@TroaBarton]

Thank you :) im pretty thorough with my tags but I'll take another look at them. I think it's mostly my uploading schedule and videos being shared that's keeping them from being found. KZbin is a tricky mistress it takes everything into account from how long people watch the video to how often I upload. It's like balancing plates, and a lot of it is out of my control view count, view duration, comments, ratings, added to playlists, and sharing the video are all things I have indirect influence over. Being a youtuber is harder than people think lol but having awesome subscribers like yourself really do make up for it.

[@7e21]

Troa Barton Thanks to you i'm cruising around in a courier now... i also got a dropship (with smuggling :D) but it exploded to what i can only guess was a bug and i was pissed and sold it again XD

[@TroaBarton]

+Foxxeh awesome to hear you've been climbing those ranks! Not so awesome to hear your dropship spontaneously combusted.. I haven't heard any problems with the dropship, we did just have that patch though and gremlins have a tendency to rear their head when that happens.. Did you put in a support ticket? They may be able to get your rebuy refunded.

[@7e21]

Troa Barton i was in a res and fought a bunch of condas... eventually i got quite low and my canopy breached... my hull was at 35% when i killed the last enemy... i put my energy into the thrusters and and checked my modules... all pretty low but still functional... i engaged supercruise and while it was almost done charging i just randomly exploded... And no i did not... i just sold it and got into my courier xD

[@TroaBarton]

+Foxxeh yeah that sounds like a bug.. Well at least you saw the light and got yourself an imperial ship ;) I'd put in a ticket though, just saying.

[@aking1012]

amphisatsu. take all no cargo missions at every hop. the destinations clump even when going to other systems b/c the powers stay the same and their expansion/control targets remain the same. amphisatsu is the good one b/c of high station density and high power density. it works for me. i even found a hard limit on number of missions you can accept at the same time ;)

[@julianpearce218]

OK, just to be clear, It does not matter what charity mission you accept. HOWEVER the minor factions alignment to one of the three main factions will affect which rank increases? This means: if you donate to an independant minor faction you will see no benefit at all and the Alliance major faction has no (visible) ranking system? Note that Tun's Wart (Tun) has ONLY Federation aligned minor factions where as TAMAR has Empire and independents struggling for control.

[@julianpearce218]

Also (1) It seems that donating to an underdog minor faction will increase its standing at that star port, so if we all rush to where an Empire aligned minor faction is the underdog and support that cause: After a while, it will no longer be the underdog and will no longer request donations? (In TUN this does not matter , however in Tamar it will affect who has control) Also(2) I have no conclusive proof , but it "feels" as if I get offered more charity donate missions after completing multiple mission for the same major faction. Example: Stacking several smuggling missions from an Empire aligned minor faction will usually result in multiple charitable donate missions where the target star port has an Empire aligned minor faction with low influence. This would actually make some sense in that both the smuggling and the charitable donation undermines the controlling power in the target system. I'm going back to smuggling now (as i need to make cash again) I'll let you know if the theories above hold up. (I will also let you know if they do not)

[@julianpearce218]

And finally: Troa touches upon the less obvious type of charity mission that requests you donate a small quantity of resource to the cause. The resource is usually some kind of food (fish, animal meat,,) and can usually be found ( in very low supply) in the commodities market at the SAME STAR PORT or in a relatively close system (12-15 Ly which, is nothing for an ASP) NOTE "usually" I just picked up one for 2 progenitor cells. Closest system: 91Ly oh well.

[@sovietnexter6389]

does my rep have to be "allied" to get the rank up mission

[@TheRowdyJ]

how do you search for stations like this? is it by accident or is there a method?

[@_danyg_]

the medical supply charity give you 6% of rank increase, doesn't matter how many supplies are requiring. Can be useful to rank faster but take care about how many credit you need to expend for that 6%

[@bigbenorr]

I did Tamar for a while and it worked alright, but seems the charity missions dried up after I refreshed a few times. I don't know if they nerfed it or its just cause of the simulation. Anyway, I had decent luck at Fehu, got about 2% per data mission ranking up to Lord. I decided to try another system outside the bubble and discovered HIP 4073. I picked up some "classified data" missions to locations inside the bubble (about 130 LY) 6-7 jumps for me in the asp. They weren't big on credits but awesome rank gain, there were a couple that gave me 8% rank (Lord to Baron) from a single mission. Best luck was at sommerville platform, but sometimes I go there and can't find any missions, maybe cause its a low population, but other times its got plenty with some decent paying shadow deliveries as well.

[@caiogomesgarcia369]

+bigbenorr Is Tamar still working? I havent been able to get Charity missions anywhere.. Just a few very rare ones at Cubeo that require 5000cr each, which takes ages to improve rank =/ And btw, is it at Gould port that you went to while in Cubeo?

[@bigbenorr]

Yeah Gould port, there weren't many charity missions lately though. I ended up just going around looking for the Classified Data missions and was finally able to make it to Baron.

[@caiogomesgarcia369]

Ohh ok then ^^.. Thank you for the reply buddy. Much appreciated! Ill try that out. I really want to take advantage of the Cutter at 30% discount

[@TroaBarton]

Congratulations on making baron commander

[@bigbenorr]

Thanks! Just some additional info on HIP 4073, I have still been using it for rank and I found that any "classified data" mission gives about 2-3% if it involves 1 empire faction and if both parties involved are empire then it can be about 6-7% although thats not a guarantee. The missions never have more than 1 hour timer so I can only stack a small handful of them but sometimes at somerville platform you can find multiple missions to the same destination. its hit or miss but I feel like I average about 10% per run and its roughly 30 minutes round trip so maybe about 20% per hour. The secret cargo missions can also be pretty good, just remember you cant get scanned. Just made it to Count and slowly climbing to Duke.

[@gabichivu5065]

Most of the donations missions in the listed Empire Systems do not increase your rank.

[@BumbleBee_VR]

Just gained Sol system permit by doing exactly what you said at Tun. Took me about 1.5million in creds and about 4 actually missions outside of the station to get to the next rank. Made PRETTY OFFICER in about 2hrs and was orbiting Earth 10mins after >:D Easy on my Explorer configured Asp but with some cargo racks. Going to get SRV and land where I can and drive about for more photos. Great videos, SUBBED Keep it up

[@TroaBarton]

Congratulations commander! Happy to hear you've had success, thanks for watching, commenting, and of course for subscribing!

[@bobtony6036]

Nice videos. question if you have time, i just hit 4.4 mil and am thinking about buying a asp scout. is it a good ship? right now i have a souped up viper, should i just sell the viper? the asp looks like a straight upgrade...thanks

[@TroaBarton]

You should check out the video I made of it. Personally I really like that ship.

[@Nighthawk2401]

If you're willing to save at least 7.5 mil, the Vulture is an amazing fighter, arguably even the best because of it's guns, armor, and legendary maneuverability. That's what I did, anyways (using Viper Mk 3 until then, mainly working as a merc in combat zones). Still though, either Asp might be more suited for anything

[@Nighthawk2401]

Actually I think it's not a bad idea to just get a scout until you get to the larger ships like the Asp explorer or Vulture. Wish I had the option of doing that because I've noticed the scouts can be hard even for me since the Vulture has such bad power problems

[@Rebar77_real]

Great guide and information! Thanks a mil, After just getting my FaS(by Derping around pretty much randomly) I wasn't looking forward to the imperial grind. This should take some of the sting out of it at least. o7

[@TroaBarton]

Unfortunately imperial sites aren't as good but it should still be faster even though it won't feel like it.

[@Kragz88]

This still top working? Charity?

[@henrikd.7529]

Does anybody know an more actual system after the changed the bulletin board ? I need to rank for the federation, I am Maat (don't know how it's called in English, the one before Petty Officer. Thanks for all helpful advices

[@matt495311]

If you really want rank fast, do the classified data transportation missions from cubeo while getting donation missions. If they are more than 70 ly couriers then you will most likely get 2-3% even at high ranks

[@johnnyphase]

Feb 1st 2016 I can confirm suggested Fed systems still working quite well, made it to Rear Admiral quite fast. Imperial ranking is a pain in the ass though. From those suggested systems only Cubeo worked for me. Still it took quite a long time to get to Duke as mostly I had to roll one single charity mission. I noticed that while charity missions in solo disappear after being completed and you must wait for new ones switching solo/open, charity missions in open mostly keep reappearing exactly the same. So if you get one for e.g. 24 thousand Cr you can keep rolling it over and over gaining 1% each time from Marquis to Duke. Takes time but is still 10x faster than any other method I tried (including Fehu - bubble stuff). So, thanks for this dude. I really had enough grinding before I tried this.

[@TroaBarton]

Happy to help thank you for watching, commenting, and post dating you're experiences. It sounds close to my experiences with the empire.. It's still a grind but like you said it's still faster which is infuriating lol. Sounds like your grind is over for now happy to hear that, enjoy your new ships commander o7

[@caiogomesgarcia369]

+John Phaser Thanks for mentioning that buddy. However, i cant find any charity mission in Cubeo at all. Do you mind mentioning wich station you were getting them? Ive been travelling for hours to each and every one of these systems mentioned in the video, to no success. I guess the background sim has changed them

[@johnnyphase]

+Caio Gomes Garcia Hi. I just checked in Cubeo, first landing in Medupe City and bang - 2 charity missions. They are still there. I just gained another 6% above Duke just to check if it still works. I guess you need luck and patience. Go to any station, if there is no charity, switch solo/open several times, if there is nothing go to another station. Keep trying untill you get a nice juicy mission (over 20k Cr) in open mode and you call roll it over for a long time. Don´t expect anything easy though, it sucks yeah, I don´t know if there is any better system because this is uncomparable with how Fed systems are juicy. Fed ranks are so easy I did not stop at corvette level and made it all the way to Admiral. No way I want to do this for Empire...

[@caiogomesgarcia369]

Thanks for the quick reply =D Much appreciated! Wow you must be lucky haha.. I've changed between solo/open more than 10 times jsut to get 5000cr missions that dont even give 1% progression. Im still at Viscount btw But hey, do you mind explaining the "roll it over" part? I didnt get that. Sorry for posing that many questions, i've spent so much time trying to rank up ;P haha

[@johnnyphase]

+Caio Gomes Garcia Roll it over part comes as soon as you get a juicy charity mission in OPEN PLAY! Charities in open play have a nice attribute, they reappear :) So take the mission, make the donation, switch to solo (with some luck you get some in solo too), switch back to open and voilla, the exactly same mission appears again. Repeat untill you´ve had enough. I did this from Count to Duke but it still took me many hours. Any other way would take me many days though.

[@Ichorslick99]

While ranking up I would occasionally grab a courier mission to kill time. I don't have any evidence to show you, but I delivered a message from a Federation faction to an empire faction and received rank in both. I was only a warrant officer(federation) and squire(empire) and I received 1-2% in both major factions, which would probably be unnoticeable with your high rankings. I wouldn't recommend doing it, seems like too much of a hassle when you can just charity farm one at a time, but it does work.

[@TroaBarton]

I've never seen that are you sure you didn't pick up another mission to gain rank in both? I double checked this to make sure and turned in 6 smuggling missions from Robigo to federation systems and gained zero rank.

[@Ichorslick99]

It was just the one mission. I always check my ranking before turning in missions to see how much I gain(trying to figure out what works best) when I noticed I was delivering from a federation minor faction to an empire minor faction and I gained rank in both. It's a difficult thing to try to do again as you have to find a mission that begins with a minor aligned with one major and deliver to a minor involved with the other. Does this mean if I run a mission from one federation minor to another federation minor do I gain rank twice? The whole thing is confusing. The only type of mission I noticed that was worth the time besides charity missions was the courier missions. Specifically the ones that have you deliver a message to unexplored systems. Those were sometimes worth between 5-10% at around Petty Officer rank but even then, it seemed random. As for the Robigo missions you were running, I think you can earn less then 1% rank. I've done many charity mission where my rank didn't change either(I always turn them in one at a time). With your high rankings, and smuggling missions not worth much, maybe you just can't notice?

[@owenaero]

my star port services don't show bulletin board ?

[@mrcrumb4302]

He mentions in the video that by the time you watch it things could have changed with updates. The bulletin board has gone now and it's the missions board.

[@leperp]

Today i've ranked up from chief petty officer +45% to post captain +51% in 17 draconis doing only charity misions. Cost: 7-8 mil. Cr. and 5-6 hrs. Not so bad. I'll have my corvette tomorrow. For duke in empire i mostly did classified data transmission and shadow delivery missions from aditi. It took much longer but i got rich in the process. Good luck cmdrs. and thanks for great video troa.

[@TroaBarton]

Awesome to hear it worked out for you, thanks for the comment and of course for watching the video.

[@pmurphy5948]

omg that was the funniest intro I've seen on KZbin for ED

[@TroaBarton]

Haha happy you liked it :)

[@SpieleETC]

I am with the Empire and i do Classified Data Transportation most of the time. I am currently Rank Serf and i did 29% Rank with just two missions. Can someone explain that to me ??

[@TroaBarton]

Early ranks get more from missions and scale into a lackluster gain in rank, charity missions are static. Later on the give you more because they don't scale negatively.

[@tron-8140]

Skip to 8:49 to get what you came for and skip the useless word fumbling.

[@Red-Wyrm]

Affect on reputation is based on base monetary value of the mission. For combat mission its just what it is. If mission pays 100k - you get specific amount of xp from that mission. If another mission pays 200k - it will give twice as much experience. For trade and smuggling mission it takes into account base monetary value of cargo you hauling.smuggling. So if you hauling 140 tons of imperial slaves, with base value of 3,000,000 - that the value that will affect rank xp. Not what mission actually pays (which will be more like 3.6 million). Same for smuggling. Long range smuggling might easily pay like 10 millions for 20 tons of smuggling. But it will take into account only base cost of those 20 tons of cargo (so likely more like 1 million of value). For donation missions its vice versa. It about how much you donate.

[@MrHunter2604]

so combat mission are the best way to up rank when its well pay?

[@TroaBarton]

+MrHunter2604 unfortunately this is false payout is not a direct correlation to how much rank you gain. At least not at this moment.

[@MrHunter2604]

+Troa Barton ok thx man and good vid :)

[@Red-Wyrm]

+MrHunter2604 I actually ranked up to Duke by doing Imperial Salves hauling missions in Python. Still took lots of time, but i also became elite trader (was tycoon before starting ranking up), and earned extra 500 millions.

[@MrHunter2604]

+Red Wyrm you do those mission in robigo?

[@TimothyButler]

I'm ranked Fed Petty Officer 100%, been that way for months now . This doesn't seem to work . I think I need a ranking opportunity mission , but how do I find one ?

[@OldManShoutsAtClouds]

Increase your rep with a Federation allied minor faction.

[@TheSilveh]

Hi Troa, am a recent subsciber to your channel and found your videos to be very informative, ty very much I,ve found a system LHS 1275 with two outposts Gooch Mine and Nagel Legacy both with a high amount of charity missions from monies, food , meds, soft weapons and armour, also data missions. Switching from solo to open and also a few private groups, I stacked an awesome amount, and have managed to get to Admiral in 45 hours in gameplay starting from petty officer. Its hard to tell on foods, meds armour and soft weapons how much percentage on rank this gives. On donations however i found that appros 26k-28k in donations gave me 1% at Vice Admiral rank as you go down the ranks its approx 3K less each rank. Thanks for the heads up on this video and am looking forward to watching other videos and forthcoming ones Silvey

[@NastyStankyChicken]

Does anyone know the best systems on 2.1?

[@tirow5898]

Got a question here, currently i am at Tamar, 100% on the first rank of the empire and i simply dont get any "rank-up" missions. Any ideas why this is happening?

[@MaxPenford]

Have you got any rank, or does it say none? Because I think I'm in the same position as you

[@tirow5898]

I did not have any rank at the time, the rank up missions appeared after while^^

[@Orion-jr6fi]

Does anyone know where a good federtion system is? I want to get a higher rank with them.

[@TroaBarton]

Check out the video description :)

[@Jrm_2211]

Will this still work?

[@COMMANDERHAWK22]

question im at 100% petty officer is there anything I need to do to go up one rank cause I donated 1 mill and nothing happened.

[@ohthecaptain]

COMMANDERHAWK22 once you hit 100% on any rank, you'll need to find a mission that lists rank progression as a reward. These missions are normally listed as "do ____ " for your respective alliance you are working on. This was covered in this video. Once you hit 100% you can still gain progress towards the next rank so don't worry about your donations going to waste.

[@COMMANDERHAWK22]

I know it was covered but I never found a mission so I was wondering if there was something else I had to do. eventually one did pop up.

[@julianpearce218]

Just a quick update from me Troa. First: GRATZ on 6K (and growing) My net worth is now well over 100MCr so I am using the spare cash to fully fit out some fighters: Imperial Eagle: (after flying an ASP Explorer) a big disappointment Viper Mk3 -still a good ship Vulture: Trying that next While I think of it: I'm seeing an extra line in red text in pilot/ship details after taking kill pirate missions (Mission ...) This appears to be a v2.0 thing as I remember in v1.5 being frustrated getting no mission kill count on random WANTED ships (or LAWLESS ships that attacked me i.e.... pirates why would they not count towards my mission?)

[@TroaBarton]

Awesome! Congratulations on earning that money you've done well! The imperial eagle isn't really a tool but rather a "luxury ship", the viper does its job well, but the vulture is probably the best combat ship for PVE. Others to consider are the federal assault ship, imperial courier, and the FDL. Thank you for the congratulations on the subscriber base. I keep watching go up daily and it's awesome!!

[@julianpearce218]

+Troa Barton Although I got smashed up by an elite npc in and Imperial Eagle, i could never find a configuration that suited me. Viper Mk3 is OK , but I prefer the Mk4. Going to log on and finally try a Vulture

[@julianpearce218]

+Troa Barton Either I'm having a very bad day or these ships are just not for me. Slapped a couple of gimballed beam lasers on my Vulture, but even with the best power distributor and power gen there is simply not enough power to keep them firing. Glad I kept my ASP intact, think I will go back to it now.

[@TroaBarton]

+Julian Pearce try 2 gimbaled pulse

[@julianpearce218]

+Troa Barton Doh! I had slapped in an A3 power distributor, meaning to get an A5 next stop. Gimbled beam lasers just fine now (Although they can get a little hot). Enjoyed using the Vulture so much that I left it intact when I switched back to ASP (Gotta get some faction rank and raise more cash)

[@hl2strike]

I would like to buy a Clipper. Is this guide still current?

[@TroaBarton]

+Ed Freeman The method is still correct, not sure once the patch goes live. The locations are likely to have changed by now but they would still be worth a look. A quick look on Reddit or the forums will give you up to date locations they can change hourly depending on the BGS.

[@32keihin]

Tried this today after reading quite a bit, bought the game like a week ago xD. Relogged at Tun 6 times an not a single charity mission popped up. Is Tun still gud?

[@Jhorsma]

There was some talking in reddit that 17draconis wouldn't be that good for ranking anymore, haven't been there for a while so can't confirm or deny that. For feds inside bubble where I did gain rank up to vice admiral (yea, going to get max rank for fun at some point since I have already King rank) is Ipetes.

[@MrCountrycuz]

what kind of pc do you have to produce these high def images of those ships??

[@TroaBarton]

+Josef Venport I ordered my PC a few years ago from cyberpowerpc it's nothing special anymore.. I need to upgrade again.. I'm running an i7 3770k with a moderate overclock GTX 780 TI with a moderate overclock 8GB of ripsaw ram (which isn't enough) Standard Seagate HDD The magic is in Nvidias shadowplay quality I used to use OBS but shadowplay is now reliable enough for me to use.

[@julianpearce218]

+Josef Venport I get a similar experience to Troa with:- 64Bit Windows 7 Home Premium I7 4790K CPU @ 4Ghz ( 64bit Quad core) 16GB RAM NVIDIA Geforce GT 640 (Good enough for a single 22 inch monitor) You can get away with a GPU of a lesser spec that Frontier recommends, but the more you spend on your GPU(s) the better your experience is likely to be. The actual game does not require a huge amount of CPU power (I am not overclocking at all and my cores run very cool when only ED is running, nor do you actually need 16GB RAM (assuming your GPU has its own RAM), however extra CPU power and RAM does become useful if you are going to be running EDDB or Rare trader (or your own spreadsheets/databases) in the background.

[@Entirehappy]

Now with the patch 2.1 it has become really expensive to rank up for what I see, some donations even ask for 750.000. :/

[@goldcoin2444]

For the first 5 ranks "classified data transportation" missions have always been the most productive for me at about 3%-10% whereas charity missions only net me 1%

[@TroaBarton]

Early ranks gain a lot but they scale, charity missions are static, later on that makes a huge difference.

[@tak2910]

Oh man this game goes into so much depth that I start losing my mind on how complex some of it seems to me lol. Is there any downsides to pledging to any power? I'm leaning toward the Federation myself.

[@TroaBarton]

+Jonathan Smith lol yeah this game tells you almost squat about what anything means, it's both it's appeal and downside. By "power" do you mean faction? Empire or Federation? Or do you mean a power play character? If you mean faction, no there s no downside. Unless you choose the federation.... You'll start to smell funny.

[@tak2910]

Brilliant! I'm just about to head down to Robigo Mines after watching the smuggling mission and spending my 3.6 million remaining balance on a Keelback and fitting it out for the journey there and something to keep me alive. Only thing that sucks is I have 1760 credits left and I have no friend to escort me right now haha. If you do know if that "exploit" has been stopped now please tell me just incase I do something stupid and lose all my crap apart from my old vulture :)

[@TroaBarton]

+Jonathan Smith as far as I know it still works. Fly safe commander, just be ready to accept the consequences if you fail.

[@tak2910]

Thanks :) I took a break after I picked those missions up. Came back later and talked my friend into prepping to go to Robigo with me next time! Made myself a handsome 18 million credit balance and bought a Type-7, realised that it was too big then went on to buy a Keelback and Asp Explorer :) I only got interdicted 5 times on my way back which was very very nice.

[@TroaBarton]

+Jonathan Smith took a gamble running without that rebuy, happy to hear the dice fell in your favor!

[@gexay]

There shouldn't be a debate, it shouldn't take everyone giving his opinion on which is the fastest way to level up. They should just tell us how the friggin game works.

[@julianpearce218]

+Geks YT You are underestimating the game this is NOT the kind of game that you can learn a sequence and repeat it endlessly. A core element of ED is the Back Ground Simulator (BGS). The game is deliberately dynamic, just like real life. Something that works today might not work the same way in a couple of months, weeks or even days. Every action every player makes changes the ED Universe every so slightly. consequently if everyone goes and does exactly the same thing in the same system, the game will (quite deliberately) change, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. Keep an eye on the news bulletins for clues as to HOW local space or the Universe overall is changing.

[@L33TCHI3K3N]

Love your videos best on youtube for elite dangerous.

[@TroaBarton]

Thank you very much! That means a lot :)

[@HeisenBird]

Another system for ranking up in the Federation is Kudiyu.

[@TroaBarton]

Awesome thank you! I'll include it in the description and check it out when I have time.

[@HeisenBird]

+Troa Barton Quick update. Arimil is another good place to go to.

[@TroaBarton]

+Heisen Bird awesome! Thank you! I'll be sure to include it when I can.

[@reverse9638]

Just tried HR 1064 as I was close by ... not a sausage ! Having just ground 64% to rank up to Duke ... wondered if there was actually an easier way. Not at HE 1064 for me ! Tried a couple of the stations but nothing. I'm 100% aligned to all the Imperial factions there. For my grind Assassinations were the best missions followed by smuggling illegal cargos between stations. Have the Cutter now, so grinding away at Elite for trading (this is boring !!! ) any recommendations greatly received. Currently at 5 × 2.2 million credits per hour shipping Imperial Slaves .... back and forth, back and forth. Love the vids by the way

[@TroaBarton]

Yeah unfortunately RNG rears its head a lot, that and the BGS make it difficult to make videos like this. But with everyone asking me and the forums I figured I should. At least you got your cutter, imperial ranks are the hard one to get, probably because our destitute work off their debt instead of asking for handouts lol. Good luck on the grind and thanks for watching and commenting.

[@Firemedic-qi8yd]

lambda-2 tucanae, cubeo, and a few systems near there, best places for classified data missions, fastest way i made it to duke, far quicker than hunting down freaking charity missions and way faster than assassinations.

[@rhyyysss-]

great vid helps alot :D also id just like to ask, i have heard that turning bounty's in to en empire system will rank you up also, know if theres any truth to this? thanks :D EDIT: you also got a new sub :P

[@TroaBarton]

Thanks for subscribing :) At the moment no bounty hunting does not increase your rank, only your reputation. If you take a mission to bounty hunt however you'll increase both.

[@rhyyysss-]

ah thats a shame well thanks for letting me know :) id also like to report that im in tamar right now and its still pumping out missions!! :D

[@vaulthecreator]

Giving a thumbs-up if only for the Jurassic Park and very sly Firefly reference :D and that's before I've even watched the full vid lol

[@TroaBarton]

Oh you caught that too :) My nerd-dom knows no bounds.. Lol Thanks for watching, commenting, and for the like :)

[@vaulthecreator]

I could say the same hehe. You are most welcome, I also forgot to mention I subbed :D

[@tantalaspeldain8075]

Thanks mate will look out for those charity missions o7

[@TroaBarton]

Good luck o7 :)

[@micahisham]

Fehu is the best Empire charity system as of 7/29/16. Literally 9 or 10 per instance.

[@Mister_Facepalm]

The escape pod missions have given little to no rank progress at all for me Maybe I'm just unlucky.

[@TroaBarton]

All of the regular missions give almost nothing towards rank progression, I mentioned search and rescue missions as a last resort. Beyond those nothing is really worth the time.

[@Mister_Facepalm]

+Troa Barton I really do wish they'd add some kind of tag on each mission to show the rank gain, as sometimes the most simple mission type/reward can seem to give upwards of 5%. Seems almost random.

[@TroaBarton]

+Mister Facepalm agreed, the more information the better.

[@Mister_Facepalm]

+Troa Barton I wonder why FD are so stingy with information... :o

[@g-trooperg5876]

Love your videos. Thank you

[@TroaBarton]

Appreciated :) thank you!

[@mhyreblackmaze8552]

Jesus christ that black Cutter looks majestic as fuck

[@TroaBarton]

That she does, unfortunately looks aren't everything, outside of trading that ship is a disappointment. Much to my dismay...

[@tek87]

unfortunately this is no longer practical. The amount of money you must donate is much higher now. I have one for 750,000 and one for 1,000,000 credits. For a one percent increase, its not worth it.

[@andyrondeau5364]

Awww hell. Yesterday I chanced upon a small system that was awash in in charity missions and not knowing any better, I left in disgust. This game needs a mission log.

[@neosabre]

I hear 17 Draconis has been nerfed in regards to charity missions... Also CONFIRMED from me that I am getting Imperial Charity Missions in FEHU.

[@TroaBarton]

Haven't been able to check draconis can't confirm if it's changed, if so it's likely due to the background simulation. A lot of them were repair the station charity missions which are BGS reliant.

[@TzuDevil]

+Troa Barton Just hit Admiral in 17 Draconis 2 days ago. Up to 10 charity missions per log, even split between normal donations and repair stations. Very rarely there were zero.... mind numbing, but effective.

[@RubberStig]

Thanks for the helpful information - right when I needed it too! And just like @Fort Laurence, spent the first 45 seconds ROFL hearing Samuel L Jackson's voice in my head "I hate this hacker crap!" lol

[@RubberStig]

+RubberStig Tun / Tun's Wart confirmed Federation

[@TroaBarton]

Happy to hear it! Hope it helped after the laughing fit subsided :)

[@CMDRGreyWolfe]

Good episode mate. I agree with you regarding the way that missions work in relation to ranking up, it seems ridiculous that 'Donation' missions are the fastest way to ascend in Military Rank. I too have sat in the Tun system racking up stacks of donation missions and not even having to take off anywhere or do anything until the 'Rank Progression' mission presents itself. In fact, missions in general and how they add very limited depth and variety to gameplay is a much talked about subject. Here's a good post on the subject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4eTfGCZr76CgdE Even with the new addition of a progression percentage bar, ranking up and unlocking permits has never been clear and is often deliberately obscure with pilots encouraged to 'discover' the mechanics themselves. This is why there are so many inconsistencies in various player's - 'How to rank up and get permits' guides as they aren't fully clear on what's actually happening behind the scenes. This blog is the best explanation of how to understand the 'behind the scenes' mechanics and navigate the process that I have seen: bandofothersgaming.com/forum/showthread.php/2142-Elite-Dangerous-Militray-rank-progression-explained

[@TroaBarton]

+CMDR Grey Wolfe Went ahead and read that blog post, 99% of it is absolute bull. Just like I said in my video reputation has absolutely nothing to do with your rank. Reputation allows you to see more missions and you need to be at least friendly to even accept a promotion mission. Compared to all that info you would think i'm leaving things out but it really is that cut and dry.

[@CMDRGreyWolfe]

+Troa Barton ... maybe the Progression Bar wasn't the only thing they added/changed with this element of the game. That Blog isn't new so at the time it may well have been correct, but is now redundant. Like the caveats you put in your video - it was correct at the time of posting.

[@TroaBarton]

+CMDR Grey Wolfe to be fair to it it was made at a time when we had no idea at all how ranking worked. We still don't know exactly what's going on but that rank bar now means that we can deduce a lot which we couldn't before.

[@CMDRGreyWolfe]

+Troa Barton Correct. And I think that players sharing knowledge on what is a pretty complicated game is the best way to 'learn' the game. Certainly helped me immensely interacting with the community, following channels and third party sites.

[@TroaBarton]

+CMDR Grey Wolfe oh yeah learning from the community is the best way to get to grips with this game, while it may be seen as some as a failing of the game I actually like it. It has the added benefit of giving me a job ;P

[@AOEOt31os]

Cubeo and Hip 10716 for Horizons players looking for empire rank, the latter being easier until you nail the assault routine for Cubeo. Any negative rep is a non-issue and it's pretty profitable. KZbin search for Cubeo base assault, hip 10716 is too easy to need a guide. ;)

[@panc8ke324]

Cheers mate, loads of great info :-)

[@TroaBarton]

Thank you :)

[@downforcemotorsports]

Great video , thanks for the help.

[@geminitiger957]

They nerfed this big time. The missions still pop up in Tun, which is where I've decided to farm rep. Let me tell you... back in the day I did some rep farming for the FDS, and now I want a Corvette. I'm only 35% away from Rear Admiral. From 65%-75% I've easily spent 10m credits. That's no joke. It's about 1 million credits for 1% and that's not even guaranteed. These charity missions can range from 4-40 tons of any commodity they need. Or 25,000-1,000,000 credits if they need straight up cash. It's been brutal. Not sure if its been like this back when this video was made, but that's how it is now.

[@BattleSloths]

Isn't 25,000 credits the same as 1,000,000? Why not just pick the cheaper ones?

[@geminitiger957]

BattleSloths At Tun, very rarely did a 25,000 credit mission show up. They mostly were in the range of 300,000 credits or more. Eventually I got fed up with it and made the trip out to 17 Draconis. MUCH Better there success there. But I think you're right. The 25,000 credit missions were so rare for me though, I figured they just nerfed this. I spent a lot, alot.... Alot of money last night. :( and some of it even went towards unaffiliated factions too. What's done is done though, I eventually got my Vette anyway. dammit.

[@BattleSloths]

+GeminiTIGER So 17 Draconis is better?

[@geminitiger957]

Yeah, 17 Draconis is where I found the most Federal charity missions that didn't require any commodities. You'll have to cycle the mission board a few times. MUCH better than Tun, IMO...

[@BattleSloths]

+GeminiTIGER I agree. Increased 3 ranks in under an hour.

[@muffincatgames]

i was woried i was gonna have to ravel 100 of lightyears to reach tamar then i realised it was 44 light years away lucky me

[@MititeluRadu]

... learning not so much but it is a confirmation about what a mockery this game really is. The only way to keep players around with the lack of any real rpg gamplay is to put in place a random system and hide 85%-90% of the stats.

[@TroaBarton]

+Mititelu Radu oh don't get me wrong I'm not going to defend the current system, I rub a lot of people the wrong way on the forums because I do not white knight the status quo. It should be better, and believe me i am going to give my objective thoughts on the new system when the beta drops.

[@reckless4957]

hi,thanks you very much your video help me so much,i was stuck on the ranking up,so I went too LTT 911,and and it work ,I donated 200k,and 450 k,and my rank when up too,RECRUIT 61%,THANKS YOU.i will do the rest of them.i must go get advanced medicines,any way thanks for you video have a nice day

[@SaltyViper]

subscribed becuase of the Jurassic park reference.

[@TroaBarton]

Right on lol

[@joshmaxwell8767]

nice one with tw jurassic park reference ;)

[@singularitypoint2436]

The intro confused the shit out of me lol

[@yellow2108]

2:10 It will have been worth the wait.

[@TheRowdyJ]

made warrant and then went over and bought ensign. im going to sit here and buy my way into a corvette. =)

[@TroaBarton]

Good luck commander :)

[@TheRowdyJ]

1/2 way to admiral...woot! now to make money for the vette. =) thanx for the tips troa, you opened my eyes..

[@ironside61]

Ok you seriously had me going there. You went from 28% down to 20. Then i rewound the vid and saw it was 2 days earlier.... Naughty Troa. Also, I learned something here. I did not know you could rank up in both Empire and Fed. I thought you had to pick a side and once you ranked up you were not liked by the other.

[@TroaBarton]

Wasn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes, just want to show footage of it working and as a confirmation. And no you don't have to pick a side, as commanders we're independent pilots. I like both sides and their ships for different reasons, role play wise im an imperial but you're likely to find me in a fed ship.

[@StephenGoddard-MiisterSpiice]

Great video really useful I'm going to subscribe! :)

[@TroaBarton]

Rock on! Thank you!

[@StephenGoddard-MiisterSpiice]

Troa Barton :)

[@mcborris6515]

And the name of the hacker that ruined samuel L Jacksons day was Dennis...your welcome.

[@PoofyKittens]

That's a shit ton of credits...