The Fate Of The Shadowed Ones - 40K Theories

[@jackgonzalez7251]

Love how the ship was called the Occams Razor, sorta implying that the simplest answer is the most likely

[@LordDeathslayer]

dun get it

[@trainboy1739]

@@LordDeathslayer Alpha Legion are specially trained in misdirecting and misleading battle tactics.

[@erickelly1323]

they went on a grand search for the elusive hydra known as the Loch Ness Monster. Crobane kept saying something about getting his tree fiddy back. Unfortunately in their quest they ran into the Necrons.

[@HalfBreedMix]

Roll sixes to stand up and scream "I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you god damn Lock Ness Monster !"

[@erickelly1323]

Roll ones and the Loch Ness Monster gets another tree fiddy posing as a girl scout

[@Jinator132]

The real treasure was the Alpharius we made along the way

[@justpassingthrough686]

Underrated comment

[@jeffmusyoka1876]

Very underrated comment 😂

[@this_isnt_patrick]

Very very underrated comment

[@dbexodia10]

What if Alpharius was the Omegon we made along the way.

[@CAP198462]

Why don’t Necron flayers like spending money? Because they’re skinflints. Yes inquisitor, I’ll come quietly....

[@eisenhorn5494]

S H A L O M

[@docvaliant721]

Never heard the term skinflint.

[@DankworthBalthazar]

Coming quietly is not an option, heretic. Your screams will be recorded and broadcast across the system as a reminder of the penalty for unauthorized negotiation with xenos abominations.

[@CAP198462]

Doc Valiant I believe it. Skinflint is old slang and not commonly used, but still in the OED.

[@shakirjoestar46]

*Readies inquisitorial tortur-I mean execution blade.*

[@alithanar8]

Alpharius decided Alpharius wasn’t Alpharius enough, so he decided to Alpharius Alpharius so Alpharius could lead the other Alpharius’ to the greatest Alpharius future any Alpharius could hope. Alpharius.

[@pambansangbayaw4718]

Sounds like HIV Aladeen to me hehehe

[@rdeconinck5888]

being in the alpha lkegion but havin the name bob would just suck xd

[@golgotretze]

Yo Doug, I heard you like Alpharius, so we put an Alpharius in your Alpharius so you can Alpharius while Omegon.

[@arseniebadarau9437]

This actually makes sense

[@Southern_Crusader]

This is why I hate the Alpha Legion.

[@danthewatcher9681]

Well: they are Alpha Legion, AL excell at deceit and cammo, who's to say they haven't faked their own deaths to get off the radar and pop back up when it's plot-convenient.

[@ConspiracyOpossum]

Or maybe alpha leagon is still loyal and this is just a ploy to hurt the ruinous powers

[@danthewatcher9681]

@@ConspiracyOpossum or, and this just hit me, they found astarti remains, who's to say they didn't infiltrate other loyalist chapters, they essentially vanished in plain sight, after all, the best place to hide something is in full view of everione. And who's to say the marines who whent searching for them were the same marines that came back. It's a warr-band of the Alpha Legion, they are the Kingsmen on Steeoinds and in 40k. If they and the Batman-Marines (Nigh lords) kept loyal there would be no Chaos Cults in the Imperium and there would have never been a Siege of Vraks. Side note: I wish there were Loyalist Nightlords and Alphas and that they would form a Mega Chapter Called THE HANDS/ANGELS OF TERROR, because edge and because deceit.

[@ConspiracyOpossum]

Yes and what a way to infiltrate everywhere

[@danthewatcher9681]

@@ConspiracyOpossum As a Side note: Sitting on the "Iron Throne" is a grate way to get inspiration 😂, as I got this Idea on the loo 😎

[@DarkDodger]

Just wait a little, once GW runs out of other ideas, Alpha Legion will finally come back into the fold and show those "Loyalists" how its done. Longest con in the history.

[@Le-cp9tr]

It’s the Alpha Legion. Even if we knew for certain what happened, we probably didn’t know for certain what happened

[@jamesashcroft8170]

Even they probably don't know for certain what happened

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Not even tzeench knows what is happening.

[@brandonaughtman9091]

This Alpha Legion Warband learned the terrible phrases of, "Taking Secrets To Their Graves."

[@dan240393]

Terminator Armour with elephant tusks looks absolutely fantastic.

[@Luna832]

Come on the ships name is occams razor. Its just an alpha legion scheme

[@mrwri]

Our local GW has begun to ban people for playing older versions of the rules as it's at a point where nobody over the age of 12 will touch 8th ed. Only now can I sympathize with those who are wrongly accused of being traitors.

[@helix8108]

May I ask why? Would seem a bit extreme.

[@johnnyscifi]

He lix yea...

[@xxmattopsxx3931]

That just seems petty especially because of how shit and constantly changing 8th is I'm still confused about whether my army is legal or not.

[@commie4164]

@@helix8108 40k is currently in the process of attempting to be coopted by an outside ideology. this has happened within comics, magic the gathering, dungeons and dragons, video games, and other hobbies. the ideology wishes to dramatically change whatever it attaches itself to, in order to make it more in line with their belief system. changing rule sets is one of the ways in which they do that. and because they do not tolerate nonconformity, those who object get ostracized and forced out. and if the changes they make include changes to the rule sets, then anyone who does not play with the most current rule sets is an "other" who must be forced out. i dont know if thats whats happened in this particular instance, but it sure sounds like the multitude of cases ive heard in other hobbies and in a few 40k specific instances.

[@blackmage665]

@@commie4164 That outside Ideology is called "Chasing money".

[@Cemtexify]

why is it always the raven guard? the lamenters are probably chimeric genesede with blood angels raven guard

[@hithere5553]

Gotta be dark and brooding for a reason

[@zalekvoris1517]

They got ambushed "How ironic"

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Simple, they became Alpharius

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

Implying they weren't already Alpharius

[@MrGrim]

Great deduction Alpharius. I'll tell Alpharius.

[@Olanius_Pius666]

Last time I was this early we still though the Alpha Legion was loyal.

[@internetzenmaster8952]

They aren't? But Alpharius told me they were... And Alpharius told me they weren't... wait... what.

[@StevetheWizard2591]

So you've always been late? Because the Alpha Legion is definitely loyal. It's the Alpha Legion that's the traitors.

[@eisenhorn5494]

They is loyal. Ask John Gramaticus

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

@@StevetheWizard2591 hmmm obviously

[@zenlarrushiro3607]

The Necrons did a surprise attack on them

[@cxfxcdude]

Zenlarrus Hiro SOI SOI SOI SWEY

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Good video, I don't know crap about these events. It does piss me off though that GW puts out so much lore in $100 books through Forgeworld.

[@mattkennedy9308]

I love to see a actual Black Library where a monthly subscription fee would let you access all or most of the e-book forms of the Lore and novels

[@Pizzifrizzo]

Yeah, and their best lore to boot, nonetheless...

[@LilGinjaMassive]

The background music is on point lad. Takes me back to your Horus Heresy Rewrite, which was great.

[@CyrodiilCome]

Probably something to do with cyberdongs

[@Deridus]

Perhaps.... Omegon was constructed entirely out of Cyberdongs?

[@lewisirwin5363]

0:32 Anyone else see their symbol and just think *"MORTAL KOMBAT!!!"* ?

[@hansstrudel9614]

“Tens of millions of guardsmen” Death Korp of Krieg *Happy gas mask noises*

[@alpharius5178]

My thought is that the Shadowed Ones were not destroyed. There was no massacre of Raven Guard (Alpha Legion News). The warband had discovered the existence of the Necron dynasty and sought to bring the Imperium’s might to defeat them. To accomplish this, the warband recruited Raven Guard (covert specialist similar to themselves. They reported the massacre and slew those who would not join the conspiracy. This massacre was the reason that the region was primarily brought to the Imperium’s attention. The Raven Guard convinced of the massacre would be drawn to the warband’s hunting ground where their monument to warn the Imperium lay. The signs of indiscriminate killing, exists of biomass, and the lack of Orks would leave precious few enemies to consider. There are to many coincidences for this to be an accident for the Alpha Legion.

[@Matt-md5yt]

Oh my a new Warband that I have not heard of. Thanks for doing a video on them.

[@highlandoutsider]

I think they were in trouble long before making it to the surface considering how they parked their ship, feels like some sorta curse, like a deadly Bermuda triangle, I'd imagine that the grave has probably been in use for some time

[@kingwiku9735]

I do hope it was the Necrons just wiping them out. Chaos and all their little schemes and pranks are fun. But to see them get their little hams spanked, and given a loss every once and awhile, is always nice. Plus, it enforces the Xenos archetypes well. Don't wake the Necrons, Stand in front of the Tyrannids, or Fight the Orks. No one should be above those rules.

[@MrGrim]

Strange and ironic the ship would be named OR. Cause when it comes to the alpha legion, any explanation of their actions is often far from the simplest.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

I read thie title as "the shadowed one" and I thought this was going to be a bionicle lore video

[@jaceross7648]

My first thought on the skeleton pit was that some warlord is now a demon prince

[@mattkennedy9308]

I'd say early wakers of the Necrons, perhaps because of the ritual. If the Flayers got woken up by the battle between the dead forces, or by the demon summoning before disrupting the ritual, then it makes sense why they rendered the dead skeletal and then returned to the tombs. It also explains why the Librarians saw the doom if they stayed there longer, they'd wake up again.

[@sanninjiraiya]

I love Alpha Legion lore

[@Intuitivelist]

Thinking they got picked off one by one by the ammonia smelling shadow that made a nest in the Engine of Woe.

[@luxiusilluminus2844]

Never mess with Necrons look at what happened to The Old Ones and C'tan

[@alphariusomegon9540]

I think a loyalists alpha legion warband eliminated them

[@areed2000]

I like the idea that a daemon was summoned, that act tripped the Necron defenses and everybody was toast.

[@glennoswick6922]

the shadowed ones will be plesed to know there deception worked so well

[@hexwrench4433]

Mysteries are easy to write when you forget things.

[@thenutella8846]

They started a group of mercenaries called the dark hunters on aqua magna. Also alpharius.

[@dr_alex0422]

Necrons: exist AdMech: breaths in binary

[@keithharris5196]

How do you keep space marines under control when you've captured them....I just can't see then cooperating at all

[@40KTheories]

A lot of torture and a secure set of shackles. Or warp-mindfuckery.

[@hughgedney3393]

A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories, and I hope that you are very well.

[@culturalliberator9425]

Some mysteries are best left unsolved. Someone really needs to tell the Inquisition that.

[@Crazozourus]

Three way stalemate? Is that Mexican standoff?

[@caos1925]

I don't know why but either the Dark Elves, or Orks strike me as possible culprits seems a bit like how they do things.

[@VoiceOfTheEmperor]

My money is on a mix between the two.

[@Abhothra]

They showed up, performed a ritual to summon a Demonic tour-guide (Wait for it) Woke up the Necrons that were understandably quite angry, then opened up a portal commanding the Demonic Tour-guide to get them to a relative safe space inside of the Eye of Terror leaving the Imperium to deal with the Necrons. IOW The Shadowed Ones and by extension the Alpha Legion executed a scheme so sneaky but profoundly annoying, that it'll give the Empire a headache for the coming millenia.

[@viewernewest]

It was Alpharius! I regret nothing!

[@bitzangubbinzondaleft]

Malice... Wait does that mean Malal is relevant again? Has he been freed from the tomb of space to exact vengeance on it's brethren? Daaaw guys, who said there are no happy ends in the WH40K universe.

[@Szopjale1]

It is an old short story, but GW didn't do anything with it since that. The latest lore regarding the Sons of Malice (their participation in the 13th Black Crusade) didn't bring it up.

[@jasonulysess3652]

I think certain C'tan shards have escaped over the years and that the Necron harvests are the work of the Necrons that were enslaved by the free C'tan shards. Explaining how old lore and new lore can both be right.

[@cadis4257]

Was this the video you said you would do on the Sons of Malice.

[@40KTheories]

Nope.

[@cadis4257]

@@40KTheories oh that's good.

[@curtisbrown547]

I'd love to read a book about eldar, alpha legion an various other xenos banding together to fight the necrons as a common goal. Sounds kinda awesome. Edit: What if they thought they thought they were messing with daemons, but instead they were messing with a ctan shard?

[@sanuku535]

6:40 Bloody hell. Krieg.

[@justpassingthrough686]

Knowing the Alpha Legion, the Shadowed Ones are probably all fine, laughing their power-armored asses off at having pulled another successful prank on the Imperium. Also did I hear you mention Big M? That book didn't happen to have Squats in it too perchance did it? Asking for a friend...

[@sk00b72]

Every chance is possible. And a thing remains. After organizing such a vast warband I believe that the warband cannot be destroyed so easily. And the fights that were fought can be trully a massacre or so dreaded that no high ranking figure from the White Scars and Iron Hands chapter wish to speak of. It can be all of them, but I doubt that the necrons have something to do, because they still fight with range and melee weapons so the mass graves are done from something even more disturbing ,like it is said in the video, a demon horde, minor chaos god or worse. But in any case I still believe that the warband along with their leader live, because they didn't find the body, nor the armor of the chaos Lord.

[@DERP_Squad]

It was a battle of the cabal against an unknown enemy.

[@vladdrakul7851]

I believe the return of Gulliman is part of a whole new era. Gulliman is resurrected thanks to the ELDAR and my favorite Alphas have always been the 'Grey Knights' of sabotage, strategy and plausible deniability' while Gulliman is the opposite, straight forwards and open. Indeed I have stated the Ultras are the 'First Foundation and the Alphas the 2nd in terms of the Asimov trilogy: the Alphas must operate EVERYWHERE SECRETLY, The Ultras OPENLY in the Imperium, the G.K. the SPECIALIST RESERVE, SECRETLY. The dead Emperor needs to DIE! This is where this is all leading! The Primaris Marines are Gullimans new Space Marines. He, the Eldar and Alphas are co ordinated in this. A New Order!

[@hammer1349]

I think we also need to question the other species that were present. I doubt the eldar had any business being in the orpheus sector and the presumably local xenos species were there as well. If it wasn't for the librarians saying we've got a bad feeling about this, the ravens probably would have properly taken a look at what was there. Things like aging etc, trying to see if this is pit that's been used multiple times or a mass grave for a single event

[@succyourmum8593]

Take a shot every time he says also know as

[@LilGinjaMassive]

What if the Shadowed Ones actually set the whole thing up? What if the Aplha Legion had awoken the Necrons, then arranged the bodies in such a way that the Loyalists would think the Shadowed Ones had perished against said Necrons. This would leave the Shadowed Ones free to do whatever they have planned, as the Loyalist (and possibly even those under the banner of Horus) would think they have perished. We all know how the Alpha Legion love to mislead other Legions; even those tgey align with. Just a thought.

[@Ison94]

What if the warbang bos try to become demon prince or somethink like that- mayby that ritual was part of transfering him in to demon but it failed... or did it?

[@bobkaye3122]

Unless the alpha legion captain really was a loyalist and it was his traitorous brethren that were led into a trap, with the raven guard adopting their identities and infiltrating chaos. From there they would be able to tip off the imperium of any major threats and lead promising warlords into deathtraps.

[@docvaliant721]

I liked the music.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Great video!

[@dstubby82]

Giant bone pit. Sounds like the aftermath of a Khrone party.

[@whistlerwade]

This was a good one.

[@sinisterspud666]

Alpha Legion just need consistent lore even if only a page story in a Codex that says at least something about actual characters or warbands and gives something solid not just Alpharius meme content

[@Rocinante2300]

I’m mean if they did, then the meme would be broken

[@michaelhowell2326]

Remleiz, do you think that the Potala Palace could be the first roots and foundations of the Imperial Palace? It's in the right place and is the only structure of its kind, except for the identical palace across the valley.

[@beaverrow9272]

its stories like this that make the Raven Guard look intensely gullible. It hurts :/

[@Sarindanvelor]

but are they really an Alpha legion warband if their names aren't all Alpharius

[@peejvillamayor9845]

Necron chaos would be nice :)

[@thejonathan130]

What's the music playing through the video?

[@soliar5209]

So they are loyalists or heretics?

[@mattkennedy9308]

It's the Alpha Legion so yes.

[@jagnestormskull3178]

Sorcerous ritual, definitely.

[@invaderHUNK]

You just wanted to mention Malice

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

Dinah Mal? I think u mean alpharius?

[@haloreaper1018]

How do flayed ones eat?

[@karljohan2300]

I guess it was alpha legion ploy to awaken necrons and lure as many as possible to the planets to make traversing other planets eeasier

[@golgarisoul]

🐍🐍🐍

[@shawnshultz8601]

Be'lakor...

[@falconer7447]

Background Music please :D

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

Shadows change eventually.

[@icecoldrugby]

The opened the Ark of the Covenant

[@merengueatang4]

Long story short: it was probably Khorne.

[@AnxiousFly]

"not entirely unprecedented"

[@jeffmusyoka1876]

Sly Marbo did it

[@AlPHArius-fs9gu]

Which story is this from?

[@40KTheories]

Imperial Armour volumes 12 and 13

[@Seneca911]

Hydra dominatus!!!

[@morecringe89]

They became shadows. The end

[@necroticneurons9555]

Hi

[@jmagowan12]

Are they in the shadow realm, playin Yu-Gi-Oh?

[@Cheesemeister379]

God damn it why does gw spend all the lore based on us raven guard just killing us?

[@Lykyk]

Why does our favourite narrator sound like he's 14 in this video?

[@harrywilson1660]

That's not how you pronounce Gauss.

[@owenbevt3]

Clearly it It is how he prounouces it 😛

[@frizzank]

It was staged.