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Ай бұрын

Millionaire Forrest Fenn hid a gold-filled chest somewhere in the Rockies and wrote a poem with cryptic clues. Tens of thousands searched for it and five people died trying. A story of obsession. "CBS Mornings" co-host Tony Dokoupil reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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@48hours
@48hours Ай бұрын
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@gregwindell7702
@gregwindell7702 Ай бұрын
Forrest Fenn the professor the teacher the world Fenns students praying for Dee’s plagiarism is not allowed Forrest Fenns prestigious history world renowned international trademarked name a clue a hint who’s STORY is it too tell you have a right to remain silent a clue a hint Two can keep a secret Jack Stuef the department of the interior if one of them is dead Forrest Fenn a clue a hint Snow White a marvel gaze
@clarkkent3730
@clarkkent3730 Ай бұрын
isnt this an older episode? pretty sure we have all seen this one before already
@dianeferrentino2766
@dianeferrentino2766 14 күн бұрын
😢
@rolfbernserke4735
@rolfbernserke4735 Ай бұрын
I’m missing the part where people were forced to search for the treasure.
@lflood84
@lflood84 Ай бұрын
Same!! 🤦🏽‍♀️
@nuyorican130
@nuyorican130 Ай бұрын
I also agree but what if it were one of our family members, would we still agree?
@CherryBomb-pe5qm
@CherryBomb-pe5qm Ай бұрын
Adults make their own decisions. They were willing to do crazy things for $$$.
@lflood84
@lflood84 Ай бұрын
@@nuyorican130 I would. My dad and brother are relic hunters and they’re very passionate about it. If they wanted to do something really dangerous of course I would try to talk them out of it but they were smart and sensible and who am I to tell them to not do something that makes them truly happy?
@rolfbernserke4735
@rolfbernserke4735 Ай бұрын
@@nuyorican130 I would try to talk a family member out of it based on how dangerous that area of the country can be. Especially for the inexperienced ones who don’t realize what can happen. I certainly wouldn’t blame the gentleman who hid the treasure. Adults must take responsibility for their own actions.
@tddstl3166
@tddstl3166 Ай бұрын
Typical of the times: Adults blaming others for the poor choices of other adults.
@norakleps8344
@norakleps8344 Ай бұрын
It’s like the gold rush Greed You take your chances knowing the risks involved
@stephanieshaffer4131
@stephanieshaffer4131 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@titusvermont1104
@titusvermont1104 Ай бұрын
@user-fu2tj9cb3k People will always find ways to go looking for something and die because of it. Treasure, drugs, racing, adventure. They make the choice, they are responsible nobody else.
@gonavy1
@gonavy1 Ай бұрын
@user-fu2tj9cb3k so why you telling me that I don't really care?
@davidc3839
@davidc3839 Ай бұрын
It was not poor choices, it was life.
@TheBanjopreacher
@TheBanjopreacher Ай бұрын
This is probably the only time I've visited the comment section and been reassured that there are still logical people in this world.
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Ай бұрын
I agree! I didn't know what to expect either? I too am pleased
@PianoGesang
@PianoGesang Ай бұрын
You mean people that put on masks to hide their faces in public just b/c they were told to do?
@RonaldOBrian
@RonaldOBrian Ай бұрын
Same here
@lindagoehlen256
@lindagoehlen256 Ай бұрын
Me too.
@Diametricallyopposed00
@Diametricallyopposed00 Ай бұрын
Yep. 🙌🏻
@kelzlondon2138
@kelzlondon2138 Ай бұрын
Call me a pessimist , but I dont think i really would have believed there was any treasure in the first place lol
@suyen4999
@suyen4999 Ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts too 😂
@ianmcclory9297
@ianmcclory9297 Ай бұрын
I further that notion!!
@susanwaldron6831
@susanwaldron6831 Ай бұрын
I thought that was going to be the ending. Fenn admitting that he'd just made it up for fun.
@fastcat3606
@fastcat3606 Ай бұрын
There was no treasure, it was all a scam. why he didn't even reveal how the alleged poem clues led to the location.
@Veronica705
@Veronica705 Ай бұрын
I thought that from the beginning. I'm searching the comments to find out if I'm right.😂
@andrewnajarian5994
@andrewnajarian5994 Ай бұрын
I love the officer’s reaction. “You’re saying a poem told you to break in here? Are you serious?!” 😂
@NevadaLamb
@NevadaLamb Ай бұрын
I missed that!! Now I have to rewatch the episode so I can hear that! 😂
@mamabrantingtherapist
@mamabrantingtherapist Ай бұрын
I cracked up at that officers little chuckle...😂
@RackySal
@RackySal Ай бұрын
@@NevadaLamb LMAO !!! I missed it tooo ...
@elizabethr4107
@elizabethr4107 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@corkylloyd8525
@corkylloyd8525 Ай бұрын
I know a woman in albuquerque who broke into her neighbor's yard and started digging...... She was completely off her rocke
@TechNSaved
@TechNSaved Ай бұрын
He literally said, “don’t go anywhere a 70-80 year old man couldn’t go.” It’s not Fenn’s fault.
@NorthBayFCT
@NorthBayFCT Ай бұрын
True!
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Ай бұрын
This comment is a treasure 💎
@kathysenn7664
@kathysenn7664 Ай бұрын
yes.. as soon as the story came to an end having watched Fenn's last interview, I thought, the treasure was somewhere close in proximity and to his heart. It was hidden in plain sight, not too far off a beaten path, a road less traveled .. someplace near and dear to him. Time and chance happens to us all. The poem has a Biblical ring to it, in my opinion. My heart is heavy for the loved ones who are mourning.. no words can alleviate their pain. 🤍🕊️ Come from Above.
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Ай бұрын
@@kathysenn7664 Beautifully put 🙏
@sandrabentley8111
@sandrabentley8111 Ай бұрын
Actually he said..."79 to 80 year old....
@JenNJuice57
@JenNJuice57 Ай бұрын
Becca and whoever LEAVING after he fell in the water Blows my mind 🤯
@Simp_Zone
@Simp_Zone Ай бұрын
That was the most tragic part for me. The father seems broken :(
@Simp_Zone
@Simp_Zone Ай бұрын
Still not fair to blame Fenn for any of the deaths though
@ironmaven1760
@ironmaven1760 Ай бұрын
well...her name IS Becca 😂😂
@AustinHebrew
@AustinHebrew Ай бұрын
Absolutely sickening and cowardly
@hnr4994
@hnr4994 Ай бұрын
​@@Simp_Zonedid he forced them ? No. Was he a decent human with empathy and stopped this on time ? Also no!
@underdogmangalore
@underdogmangalore Ай бұрын
Those two who had 911 save them the first time but went back for more were the biggest idiots of all.
@ironmaven1760
@ironmaven1760 Ай бұрын
hahaha you got that right.
@allaboutrap1
@allaboutrap1 Ай бұрын
😂
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 Ай бұрын
Fatty thought the snowmobile was too heavy🤨
@IlonaOranje
@IlonaOranje Күн бұрын
And they should be charged for that!
@spencerhonda7445
@spencerhonda7445 Ай бұрын
People need to take responsibility. These were grown adults and assumed the risk. It is a shame people died, but blaming Fenn is ABSURD.
@TynesheiaLively-ww2tl
@TynesheiaLively-ww2tl Ай бұрын
*accountability but yes agreed lol
@admirallily
@admirallily Ай бұрын
If people need to take responsibility as you say then that includes Fenn as well as the people who went along with it.
@IlonaOranje
@IlonaOranje Күн бұрын
If they were responsible in the first place, they wouldn't have done that. lol
@kathrynr.7065
@kathrynr.7065 Ай бұрын
"The hunt claimed three more lives." "Mother nature claimed three more ill-prepared peoples' lives." I fixed it.
@pegasusgenesis360
@pegasusgenesis360 Ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@projectionv.accountability1010
@projectionv.accountability1010 Ай бұрын
Yes, you did! Thank you for your service. 😂
@theoryofpersonality1420
@theoryofpersonality1420 Ай бұрын
That's what's up
@michellek2057
@michellek2057 Ай бұрын
Survival of the fittest - Mother Nature
@marivipalomino6975
@marivipalomino6975 Ай бұрын
I like it better 😉
@gabrielawoolman4316
@gabrielawoolman4316 Ай бұрын
I am so glad the little dog was rescued and found a forever home with the sweet nurse who found him!
@joancarrino890
@joancarrino890 Ай бұрын
I'm with you if people want to do stupid things they shouldn't take their pets with them I'm glad the dog made it he's really the treasure
@bonniemaecather
@bonniemaecather Ай бұрын
@@joancarrino890I have always thought the same!
@voyaristika5673
@voyaristika5673 Ай бұрын
When I saw where that was going I fast forwarded because of the dog, so I was glad to see your comment. Relieved. His owner really loved him but you made me feel better about the outcome. Sad stuff.
@gregv2821
@gregv2821 Ай бұрын
The fact that anyone would even think to blame Fenn for their own misfortune, bad luck, or incompetence illustrates what a sorry state we're in as a society.
Ай бұрын
The fact that a wealthy person would set this up , knowing how STUPID and GREEDY people can be , disgusts me.
@gregv2821
@gregv2821 Ай бұрын
You must not like the idea of living in a free society.
@Steven-kl6lh
@Steven-kl6lh 23 күн бұрын
You gonna blame all of society?..did you go?..me neither...99% of society didn't go...👎👎👎
@gregv2821
@gregv2821 23 күн бұрын
@@Steven-kl6lh Our society is saturated with this notion that people are not responsible for their own behavior. The fact that “99% of society didn’t go” in no way dilutes or nullifies that fact. It’s a pretty simple observation and one that I think most people would agree with. At least most people who have been paying attention and can perform basic functions of reason.
@yonikki
@yonikki Ай бұрын
So interesting how some of the treasure hunters weren't prepared for how "wild" the wilderness would be. Wild is literally the root word of WILDerness.
@lalang4806
@lalang4806 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@chatterbugmm
@chatterbugmm Ай бұрын
I was just thinking this. If i decided I was going to do something like this I’d be in wilderness survival classes, researching, training and make sure that I’m absolutely prepared before trying.
@Stephanie84-lh6bf
@Stephanie84-lh6bf Ай бұрын
Rebecca and the other 3 just went home? WOW. What a nice group of people.
@Findpepperbridge
@Findpepperbridge Ай бұрын
First thing I was thinking…
@onaona.
@onaona. Ай бұрын
Ikr 🤯
@mitchkora
@mitchkora Ай бұрын
@@Findpepperbridgeno family claimed the dog!
@robertdiengdoh
@robertdiengdoh Ай бұрын
And they blamed an old men!!
@leslieleslie6590
@leslieleslie6590 Ай бұрын
I thought alcohol and/or drugs had something to do with their search, which is why they left.
@beautifulrose8619
@beautifulrose8619 Ай бұрын
Funniest line to me, Police: So you're out here because of a poem?
@JenNJuice57
@JenNJuice57 Ай бұрын
Even if Fenn called off the search I believe people would still go look for it and BELIEVE it's still there.
@theemptyone7650
@theemptyone7650 Ай бұрын
Probably, there are still some people out there looking for the treasure
@ABC-ed8cg
@ABC-ed8cg 17 күн бұрын
If it’s still there, Fenn would take it all for himself if he knows the location. Why would he reveal the location.
@horselover0627
@horselover0627 Ай бұрын
I worked in Wyoming during 2017 and participated in the treasure hunt for fun. There were a number of times where I could’ve made life-ending choices (crossing a high river, hiking without trails and encountering all types of wildlife) but I didn’t. I was prepared for the outdoors and made smart choices. I fully support Forrest’s decision to keep the hunt going on, and I believe people should not go outside for intensive expeditions without being prepared for it. Even at the time we heard about the people passing away and felt sorry for them, but still continued to prepare ourselves for anything we might have encountered while wandering in rugged terrain without cell phone service.
@CodenameDad
@CodenameDad Ай бұрын
And he also said, it’s going to be where an 80 year old can get to it. Why tf are people white water rafting and climbing cliffs??
@chrissieroxba2949
@chrissieroxba2949 Ай бұрын
@@CodenameDadabsolutely!
@ironmaven1760
@ironmaven1760 Ай бұрын
Ok...please answer a question for me then..It appears, from hearing all the different spots that people started ( and in what state it was ultimately found) ..that this map trail spanned 3 states??? Utah, Colorado and Wyoming? My gosh that's incredible!
@heyyou-cy2lf
@heyyou-cy2lf Ай бұрын
Forrest tried he said let's shut down Montana Wyoming and northern Colorado but they don't listen to me he said ! Wyoming Large praire place Corrumpa Wild and isolated Take it in SCENIC dri cimmeron byway down to Folsom falls also labeled corrumpa falls park in the OMEGA !
@kathyorourke9273
@kathyorourke9273 Ай бұрын
All the people who died went searching voluntarily.
@Robin-xt7yo
@Robin-xt7yo Ай бұрын
I'm glad the helicopter nurse who rescued the little dog Leo adopted Leo. She seems very compassionate.
@km4336
@km4336 Ай бұрын
So these adults heard of others dying and still decided to go searching for this treasure
@horacio-ho3bf
@horacio-ho3bf Ай бұрын
People die in national parks, on mountains, and on the highway every day....and in their beds
@tamielizabethallaway2413
@tamielizabethallaway2413 Ай бұрын
Excellent point! They hadn't just heard of a treasure hunt, they heard of a treasure hunt where people had died searching for it! Then thought, *"I can do this! I got a badge for wild camping when I was a boy scout! Ok it was over 40 years ago, and with supervision, and true I've never done it since... But I know I can do this! SHEILA....SHEILAAAAA...do you know where my flip flops are? I'm going out for a gentle stroll"* 🙄
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 Ай бұрын
yes that was stupid
@philipmcdonagh1094
@philipmcdonagh1094 Ай бұрын
Every time there's a flood or an avalanche on the news there's always some idiot out swimming or with a surf board or snow board looking for a quick thrill.
@denny414
@denny414 Ай бұрын
Greed boredom and disposable income of the rich or well off
@Wildrover82
@Wildrover82 Ай бұрын
No reason to call off the hunt because people are idiots. They were adults.
@UCONN_HUSKIES
@UCONN_HUSKIES Ай бұрын
LoL
@MejustMe1990
@MejustMe1990 Ай бұрын
Exactly ❤
@ceilconstante640
@ceilconstante640 Ай бұрын
If you buy a raft, you also need to invest in a life preserver and maybe do a few trips with a professional tour that routinely works those rivers.
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 Ай бұрын
nonsense, it was a stupid hunt
@juliaperry137
@juliaperry137 Ай бұрын
The treasure was found in 2020 in Wyoming.
@kentuky1233
@kentuky1233 Ай бұрын
The more disturbing thing about this is the amount of emergency resources these common sense challenged people wasted for no rational reason.
@davidc3839
@davidc3839 Ай бұрын
The man who hid this treasure was an older man. He would not have been rafting down white water rapids to hide so why venture out on them, however, we all way up the risks we are willing to take. be it treasure hunting, climbing or canoeing. The responsibility lies with the risk taker.
@nicolaxoxo1
@nicolaxoxo1 Ай бұрын
Fenn definitely told people it was not hidden anywhere an 70 year old man could not easily go…,..so they were needlessly searching in dangerous locations
@hubes96
@hubes96 Ай бұрын
Fenn didn’t make these people go look for the treasure! Fenn didn’t make them do risky chances during their search. He buried a treasure for people to have fun with and try and figure the poem out and get out in nature and look for the treasure. It sounds like some of the people went out and took risky chances searching for the treasure. Just because these people let their greed take over them using common sense while searching for the treasure. Sounds like these people over extended their abilities to get this treasure. Thats on them, not the person who hid the treasure and made a poem to tell its location. It’s the same as if someone opened of a zoo and let people visit their zoo, and someone leaned to far over the railing of the lion exhibit trying to get a picture or the best picture of a lion and they fell in the enclosure and a lion does what a lion is supposed to as an epex predator and eats the person who fell in. Is it the zoo’s fault that person let common sense out of the equation and leaned too far into the lion enclosure and fell in and was killed
@bellachannell777
@bellachannell777 Ай бұрын
🎯
@mariawestman9026
@mariawestman9026 Ай бұрын
I agree with Fenn is not killing these people But , When nature is killing these humans .. and nobody have found the golden treasure yet I’m not sure there is a treasure to find out there ! We have some photos and his words only and have he ever told how much it is worth ? If it’s even possible to find after so many years ? Remember the lady who been out there for many, many YEARS and spent over 65.000 dollars and didn’t find it ??? Someone should check out if the “golden treasure” is real and if it’s still there !!! Fenn should take someone trustworthy a lawyer or something like that and then go and check for himself ! Maybe the treasure” isn’t in the desert ? Until some of the questions are answered they SHOULD put this adventure on hold ! Bc it’s dangerous.
@CheerfulAlien-bf1kp
@CheerfulAlien-bf1kp Ай бұрын
🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠you spoke the damn truth🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
@madrush24
@madrush24 Ай бұрын
💯
@sylvia106
@sylvia106 Ай бұрын
Apex*
@katewoolf6059
@katewoolf6059 Ай бұрын
I don't want to live in a culture where adults blame others like this
@AmateurAthleteAllDay
@AmateurAthleteAllDay Ай бұрын
Welcome to the real world.
@theoryofpersonality1420
@theoryofpersonality1420 Ай бұрын
@AmateurAthleteAllDay those people don't live in the real world
@angelamccrackin5243
@angelamccrackin5243 Ай бұрын
So long...
@Alphacentauri819
@Alphacentauri819 Ай бұрын
Blame is an avoidance tactic…it’s often to avoid feeling a painful emotion. We are very averse to feeling, sitting with, anxiety, sadness, grief. Our distress tolerance is poor. Blame is a way to attempt to shift that onto someone or something else
@johng4093
@johng4093 Ай бұрын
​@@Alphacentauri819Agree, anger towards someone else is preferable to helpless grief.
@nofalsehero
@nofalsehero Ай бұрын
We probably could have done without that cringey re-enactment of that lady's "Cougar Be-Gone" chant
@sweetsugarjones
@sweetsugarjones Ай бұрын
I sort of liked it 🤷🏻‍♀️
@GummerHummerQueen
@GummerHummerQueen Ай бұрын
She had known Finn a while before that hike most likely by visiting his famous Museum with so much indigenous artifacts that. (Tho, I'm sure he pilfered most of it, people thought it & the FBI checked). She's possibly at least part Native American and the location of that museum was in the heart some tribes so she really wasn't bad at all because she either felt like she was represented in that or the museum that Finn owned and a lot of people loved. It's not disliked by as many people that you assumed might be🤷🏻‍♀️
@heidih3048
@heidih3048 Ай бұрын
uh why? Sorry you are so sensitive to "cringiness"
@Jeremiah_29
@Jeremiah_29 Ай бұрын
"Cougar-be-gone chant." That is hilarious. 😂😂
@gingin12369
@gingin12369 Ай бұрын
😬 I definitely agree with that! It makes you wonder if it’s even true.
@MTSN-hp9th
@MTSN-hp9th Ай бұрын
I think Delmar in "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" said it best: "DO NOT! SEEK! THE TREASURE!"
@chrissieroxba2949
@chrissieroxba2949 Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing every time they were talking about “seeking the treasure “! 😂
@yonikki
@yonikki Ай бұрын
Were these "victims" forced to go on this treasure hunt? Am I missing something?
@dawondjones
@dawondjones Ай бұрын
They don’t stop people from climbing Everest or any other thrill adventures
@joajoajoaquin
@joajoajoaquin Ай бұрын
They rent snow bikes, they get stuck, they have to be rescued. Next week: they rent snow bikes, they get stuck, rescue arrives off time, one dies. Let’s blame Mr Fenn.
@Orroz44
@Orroz44 Ай бұрын
And with barely any food and water. smh
@gr8-fun162
@gr8-fun162 Ай бұрын
Indeed. Because the treasure would be far to easy to find on a nice summer day. The intent was that it was meant to be a challenge, to find it under a blanket of snow. That's how a 70 or 80 year old man would hide it. Using a snowmobile and risking his life, that should it break down, he would not make it back. Very common with old men, to ride a snowmobile alone into remote wilderness places..... geez.
@staciehahn9175
@staciehahn9175 Ай бұрын
A woman just died yesterday in Boulder, whilst riding an e-bike and accidentally fell into the creek and died. Accidents can happen anywhere, and it’s your personal responsibility to yourself and your loved ones, to use common sense when going out into nature. That’s the beauty of life, it really is precious. I don’t blame the poet for any of these tragic accidents.
@mervin_prolific3303
@mervin_prolific3303 Ай бұрын
Really unfair to blame fenn for these people choices, all you had to do was not go
@davidc3839
@davidc3839 Ай бұрын
The fact that people die looking for this treasure lies on the shoulders of the person who died. They chose to take on this quest and I'm sure enjoyed the process. People die trying to get to the top of mountains. They have not banned mountaineering.
@mnnickol
@mnnickol Ай бұрын
Those so called friends all went home without waiting for the cops or continuing to search?! 😡
@heidih3048
@heidih3048 Ай бұрын
Weren't they just co-workers, actually, not actually friends?
@No_Flo_
@No_Flo_ Ай бұрын
The whole point was to get families out in the wilderness. Everyone who searched for that treasure did so at their own risk. There is no conspiracy and these unfortunate deaths were caused by negligence or inexperience.
@Ratalie2007
@Ratalie2007 Ай бұрын
umm no one needs "treasure" to go out and explore. Just do it at your own free will. Bet you more than half of those people hate the outdoors.
@No_Flo_
@No_Flo_ Ай бұрын
@@Ratalie2007 Ummm I didn’t say they did.
@MrBobbo18
@MrBobbo18 Ай бұрын
@@Ratalie2007some people obviously do. If they hated the outdoors they would need something to push them into it. Weird comment
@nanaberry4120
@nanaberry4120 Ай бұрын
⁠@@Ratalie2007Ah, yes… the condescending “umm”… meant make you look superior. Epic fail.
@rockstarphantom8112
@rockstarphantom8112 Ай бұрын
At the end of the day, communal discourse is the real treasure 😂
@grinchthecat9719
@grinchthecat9719 Ай бұрын
It is SO WEIRD that people are blaming this guy for everyone's death. Sign of the times.
@kellispreppingkitchen
@kellispreppingkitchen Ай бұрын
How so? If he didn't initiate this hunt, chances are those 5 people would still be alive. His game is the reason for their deaths. Yes, they chose to participate but his hunt is the reason they are gone. Since he knows where he hid it, he probably knew there would be some deaths. At minimal he could have reached out to the victims families and offered condolences.
@9290SC
@9290SC Ай бұрын
​@@kellispreppingkitchennope. They CHOSE to participate. Just look at the terrain.... clearly not the most safe. They did it anyway. Sad but ... yeah
@RebeccaLizEve
@RebeccaLizEve Ай бұрын
I cannot wrap my head around, blaming someone for another’s poor decision- If someone goes rock, climbing and slips and falls, are we going to take the rock away? So absurd.
@admirallily
@admirallily Ай бұрын
I can’t understand people justifying his poor decisions because other people also made poor decisions.
@Therezumee92
@Therezumee92 Ай бұрын
So people make their choices and it's his fault? Not a fan of rich ''eccentrics'', but there's still personal responsibility. People need some self awareness and common sense.
@dk1828
@dk1828 Ай бұрын
Why is this even on 48 Hours? There’s absolutely no story to this episode…so some people CHOSE to go out searching for “treasure” that may or may not exist. I went on a hike today…
@TheKnitch
@TheKnitch Ай бұрын
It was found in 2020. Sold for around $1.3M.
@meredithcoleman446
@meredithcoleman446 Ай бұрын
@@TheKnitch He only sold some of the pieces. Pretty cool 😎
@christyaustin4833
@christyaustin4833 Ай бұрын
One look at that picture on the good nurse's face as she cradled the doggo after his rescue and I smiled and thought, "Foster fail, incoming!" Awesome : )
@montanaelkwhisperer1744
@montanaelkwhisperer1744 Ай бұрын
i live in the Bitterroot valley of Montana. the Bitterroot river kills rafters every year....year after year after year. we've already had two river deaths this year, and i't not even summer yet. nobody blames the state, and they just keep coming.
@TheGooglyminotaur
@TheGooglyminotaur Ай бұрын
Sunday, the day after the deadly storms that hit Texas, Arkansas, and Oklahoma, a man where I live decided to go kayaking by himself. Most of the town didn’t have power and there were no available emergency services (they were trying to rescue people who did not choose to be in danger). He drowned about 20 feet from where he started. I feel bad for his family. I can’t help but judging the man’s decision. What the hell was he thinking?
@Alphacentauri819
@Alphacentauri819 Ай бұрын
@@TheGooglyminotaurso, so often, people (especially certain types), overestimate their abilities and underestimate reality/risks. The inability to see one’s own ignorance and vulnerabilities (awareness) is a major root cause of these types of tragic (yet often preventable) losses.
@Jackietreehorn-z5e
@Jackietreehorn-z5e Ай бұрын
I just left Montana..beautiful. I didn't risk my life doing anything there.
@montanaelkwhisperer1744
@montanaelkwhisperer1744 Ай бұрын
@@Jackietreehorn-z5e that you know of!
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 Ай бұрын
People wouldn't die in that river if it weren't for climate change
@phiakate
@phiakate Ай бұрын
Erics death was questionable.
@kimmymarshall4257
@kimmymarshall4257 Ай бұрын
Thought i was the only person tht realised tht
@AskAlex1999
@AskAlex1999 Ай бұрын
Sounds more like homicide.
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Ай бұрын
Ugh! And the fact that he was contracted to receive 51% of the treasures value out of the group of four or five people
@kimmymarshall4257
@kimmymarshall4257 Ай бұрын
@@MEL2theJ yup, tht really caught my eye
@divyapbr
@divyapbr Ай бұрын
yes
@TheLastDragon5
@TheLastDragon5 Ай бұрын
"My friend/relative was greedy and died. So it's your fault" Summary of this entire episode. Fenn just wants people to develop a relationship with nature again
@johng4093
@johng4093 Ай бұрын
Agree but it's not just greed, reasons include adventure, solving a mystery, public recognition, etc.
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 Ай бұрын
Funniest bit of the story was Big Mike blaming the snowmobile for being too heavy
@gr8-fun162
@gr8-fun162 Ай бұрын
Fenn said it's in a place where a 70 or 80 year old man could go.... so, clearly, snowmobiles are needed and the treasure should be easy to find under a few feet of snow.....
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 Ай бұрын
@@gr8-fun162 lol, yeah, that too
@sharonsmith9817
@sharonsmith9817 Ай бұрын
How ridiculous to blame Fenn he didn’t force them to search for the treasure their own greed did.
@admirallily
@admirallily Ай бұрын
One could argue his greed for notoriety was why he REFUSED to call off the hunt.
@fungfrancis7156
@fungfrancis7156 Ай бұрын
I don't see anything wrong with Mr. Fenn. Nobody is forcing you to commit into the treasure hunt. If you blame others, you still have a long way to go. If you blame yourself, you are halfway there. If you blame no one, you have arrived. -- Ancient Proverb
@fungfrancis7156
@fungfrancis7156 Ай бұрын
Mel Fisher spent 17 years looking for a 400-year-old sunken treasure. He sold his California business and moved to Florida. For years, he found nothing, and was called by skeptics as madman, conman and joker, but when he found the sunken ship, its gold and silver coins yielded $500+ million. People who invested in him said, Mel Fisher’s perseverance is as precious as pure gold.
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 Ай бұрын
Mel Fisher also got his kids involved & lost a son as well as daughter in law along with an employee in a terrible boat accident just for the love of a treasure that he couldn’t take with him in the end. Some lessons don’t ever get learned. Greed is truly the downfall of humanity. Our existence on Earth is in peril because of it. Nature didn’t sign up for our recklessness & lack of accountability. Neither did our progeny ❤️‍🩹
@fungfrancis7156
@fungfrancis7156 Ай бұрын
@@caroleminke6116 I understand. Some people like the challenge, though.
@chrissieroxba2949
@chrissieroxba2949 Ай бұрын
@@caroleminke6116very well said!
@michaelmoss5976
@michaelmoss5976 Ай бұрын
Once the poem was penned and published, there was no calling it off. They even said after it was found: People are still trying to find the place it was. WAS.
@johng4093
@johng4093 Ай бұрын
Word is some of the treasure was inadvertently left behind...ok, I just made that up.
@AnjyStrong
@AnjyStrong Ай бұрын
I’m glad to learn there are still sensible people on yt. All those who died were adults and made their own choices. No one is to be blamed for their deaths. Condolences to their families though.
@hekter2364
@hekter2364 Ай бұрын
I love how they kept blaming Fenn for people's own stupidity.
@monikatoth5697
@monikatoth5697 Ай бұрын
That's exactly what I was about to say... not caring enough water or falling off the cliff, then blaming Fenn for their own stupidity. No one told or forced them to go out bc of their own greed.
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 Ай бұрын
he organised the stupid hunt
@n.g.l.
@n.g.l. Ай бұрын
@@beaulieuc8910was it a law to conduct the search? No, then you do it at your own cost.
@stevetrivago
@stevetrivago Ай бұрын
@@beaulieuc8910 Are you a Biden supporter?
@cathyprosser1050
@cathyprosser1050 Ай бұрын
Because most people refuse to take responsibility for their own stupidity. It's always someone else's fault. It's been going on since Eve ate the apple 🍎 😊
@anthonysemaj8490
@anthonysemaj8490 Ай бұрын
How is that man blamed for grown sane peoples decisions? miss me with the bs
@projectionv.accountability1010
@projectionv.accountability1010 Ай бұрын
Honestly.
@kentuky1233
@kentuky1233 Ай бұрын
Sane people?
@MariaEOD
@MariaEOD Ай бұрын
It keeps pissing me off when they keep saying “Fenn should’ve called it off”! Like really?! You think someone really is gonna stop hiking and hunting just bc he tells them to stop?! Yeah right!!
@ronhobbs2075
@ronhobbs2075 Ай бұрын
People died mining for gold, mining for coal, drilling for oil, building the Hoover Dam, fighting in wars. I guess Paul would have petitioned his govt to end these endeavors, too. Paul had the longest relationship with his son. He raised him, molded him. However, strangers should have stopped his son?
@Makeup_momster
@Makeup_momster Ай бұрын
I’m half way thru but I’m surprised no one kidnapped the old Man and made him tell Them.
@moniqueengleman873
@moniqueengleman873 Ай бұрын
You have an evil but brilliant mind.🎉
@poojapatole3573
@poojapatole3573 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@Femalosity
@Femalosity Ай бұрын
This was also my thought 5 minutes in!
@katebowers8107
@katebowers8107 Ай бұрын
“No life preserver” Poor choice, Eric.
@malalamalala6769
@malalamalala6769 Ай бұрын
We have devolved as a society when we blame another for the decisions we make freely.
@heidih3048
@heidih3048 Ай бұрын
Look at the comments here-- no one is blaming Fenn. We all have common sense. And viewers of this channel come from all backgrounds and political affiliations. Blaming Fenn is just what the families and friends of the people who died do in order to avoid blaming their loved one for going in ill-prepared, or having no one to blame, and admitting that people die by accident sometimes.
@philipmcdonagh1094
@philipmcdonagh1094 Ай бұрын
yea like suing the manufacturer of a ladder when you fall of it.
@MusgraveRitual
@MusgraveRitual Ай бұрын
The guy who was surprised that things in the wilderness are much larger than they appear on the map says all you need to know whose fault it was if something bad happens. I don't think people realize how dangerous and unforgiving the wilderness is - you are always one small foot injury away from death if you are not prepared for plan B, C, D and F. Mr. Fenn came up with interesting and fun idea. It was not his fault some people went into it driven by ego and greed.
@diannemose244
@diannemose244 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@heidih3048
@heidih3048 Ай бұрын
yes. The pure stupidity
@Klara-Hvar
@Klara-Hvar Ай бұрын
I can't believe the question of the show is basically "Why didn't Fenn call off the search?" It's people's decision to take risks or not... and there are plenty of tragic cases of people taking risks without anyone "incentivizing/inviting/organizing/whatever".
@travelwithtony5767
@travelwithtony5767 Ай бұрын
This is one of those stories where half of me believes that this story is real, while the other half of me believes it didn’t. What I can say with absolute certainty is that it was a fascinating story and that I appreciate it being shared with everyone. 👍😎
@Proctors_former_paycheck
@Proctors_former_paycheck Ай бұрын
It was a complete hoax by a guy who wanted favors from women. Thats it.
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 Ай бұрын
​@@Proctors_former_paycheckhuh??
@Proctors_former_paycheck
@Proctors_former_paycheck Ай бұрын
@@fluteloop6737 It was a hoax. He wanted the attention from women who would otherwise never pay attention to him.
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 Ай бұрын
@@Proctors_former_paycheck how'd you get that from this story??
@nicann7
@nicann7 Ай бұрын
It was found in 2020
@johnphillips9415
@johnphillips9415 Ай бұрын
My only concern here did the treasure really exist?
@Angela-ne9cy
@Angela-ne9cy Ай бұрын
It did - someone found it in 2020 and eventually sold it for $1.3 million.
@mariawestman9026
@mariawestman9026 Ай бұрын
@@Angela-ne9cyokay. So he gaved it away 😂😂😂 I wonder where you got this information from ? I like to read it too. 🙏❤️
@luiscolon1781
@luiscolon1781 Ай бұрын
​@@Angela-ne9cy wheres the facts?
@intombenhle
@intombenhle Ай бұрын
Yes! It was found in 2020.
@mariawestman9026
@mariawestman9026 Ай бұрын
@@intombenhle and I didn’t know about the treasure until right now when 48 hours released the story 😂😂😂 How many people have died when searching for it ? Do you know ?
@hbrock32
@hbrock32 Ай бұрын
The ones who died were all grown adults, responsible for their own safety and wellbeing. No one forced them to go out into the wilderness, it was their choice. It's very very sad that they died, but it's not right to blame Fenn for their deaths. Also, I'm glad little Leo survived and found a new, loving, home with his rescuer.
@Elena-fe3os
@Elena-fe3os Ай бұрын
Fenn even said don't go where a 70-80 y old would not go.. They have made wrong choices and , most likely they have died far from the real place. To blame Fenn, for me, it is an attempt to seek money, for a senseless death.
@chachachachan
@chachachachan Ай бұрын
No way he found it without help from Fenn.
@oldcremona
@oldcremona Ай бұрын
Agreed.
@good1day726
@good1day726 Ай бұрын
And then what’s the deal with not telling where it was, to all those interested parties out there devoting so much time to it, if they didn’t find it they likely imagined someday the poem or riddle would be told.
@fatteebaddee
@fatteebaddee Ай бұрын
Agreed too, Fen knew he was in bad health and somehow a person was picked to find it, this is some SAW movie stuff right here, people died playing a game
@lethafarmer8669
@lethafarmer8669 Ай бұрын
When we shut down everything that is a risk we’ll all be living in a prison. Go out and take a risk. Get hurt, learn a lesson, have an adventure.
@353Chaos353
@353Chaos353 Ай бұрын
And take reasonable safety precautions while doing so! 😀
@sambarnes2716
@sambarnes2716 Ай бұрын
People die in car crashes every day lets ban cars. U going looking for the treasure it's your own fault
@NorthBayFCT
@NorthBayFCT Ай бұрын
Not exactly the same thing
@theresamurphy6554
@theresamurphy6554 Ай бұрын
Well a car accident seems normal and I bet people blame others for that too which was just an ACCIDENT why not walk away and say oh I’m sorry good day
@wegotbrent
@wegotbrent Ай бұрын
There's a reason he won't say where he found it. If he makes up a location, someone out there will be able to say they've looked there and it wasn't there.
@Treasuremonk
@Treasuremonk Ай бұрын
More people have died climbing Mount Everest, but no one has ever stopped that from happening
@BlockchainToTheFace
@BlockchainToTheFace Ай бұрын
It baffles me, There are so many idiots in this world. How are you going to blame someone else for something YOU did?
@jimijames63
@jimijames63 Ай бұрын
Reminds me of when Forrest Gump stopped running across the US, with all the disappointed followers behind him.
@user-zo9dq6qc3c
@user-zo9dq6qc3c Ай бұрын
Native American people always respected nature, knew of the dangers and pitfalls of being out in the wilderness.
@G4NoChallenge
@G4NoChallenge Ай бұрын
totally weird and not logical that a guy finds the treasure and wants to remain anonymous and does not cash it in. This episode should have examined if the 'treasure' really was treasure, was really hidden or was it all a publicity/ego scam by Forrest and he connected with a guy to hide his scam to protect his family after his death.
@good1day726
@good1day726 Ай бұрын
Very good points. Or give it a part II. Instead we get no discussion in the show and hundreds of comments expressing the same sentiment about not wanting to blame the treasure author. Okay fine, but what’s the real story...
@zephyrcalm9717
@zephyrcalm9717 Ай бұрын
Nearly the whole comment section sounds like a vindicate-Fenn campaign so much do that I wonder if these comments are genuine or bots. Or just a PR exercise to defend Fenn.
@sandispady9058
@sandispady9058 Ай бұрын
I don’t see how one can place blame on Fenn for choices other adults make. Absolutely crazy. Some people like adventure and WANT to take the risk.
@14ariel77
@14ariel77 Ай бұрын
Mike wasn’t in good shape to begin with to take on that adventure.
@oldcremona
@oldcremona Ай бұрын
Pretty suspicious that the treasure was found just before he died. Quite a coincidence. Very possibe collusion between Fen and the "finder."
@terripebsworth9623
@terripebsworth9623 Ай бұрын
Finn told people clearly that the treasure was somewhere an 89 yr old man could easily walk to. Those who died used poor judgement by venturing into risky areas (some even alone) and some in risky weather conditions, places Finn had already said the treasure would not be found. The greed or idiocracy of those people led to their demise. I'm glad that the treasure was real or at least so it seems. Also, Finn didn't invent the idea of treasure hunting. Humans have engaged in that for probably thousands of years and hundreds or thousands have died in that pursuit, like in the gold rush era. Treasure hunting is always an 'enter at your own risk' activity, just like mountain climbing, skydiving, car racing, and many other activities which no one would consider banning for safety reasons. People have the right to risk their own safety. It's called freedom.
@user-gq3ip8kr5r
@user-gq3ip8kr5r Ай бұрын
I was just about to write the exact same thing! And he said it was an absolutely gorgeous place! But people were down in dark caves and climbing ugly rocks 🫤😣
@thearts31
@thearts31 Ай бұрын
I completely understand how grief will make you blame others because the mind is looking for a way to make sense of what can't be accepted. People never want to hold their deceased loved ones accountable for their part in their own demise. These were adults who made their own choices and it didn't go in their favor. Thats on them. Going on these hunts alone was irresponsible and foolish. They knew the risks before and after people died and went anyway.
@tybrooks4112
@tybrooks4112 Ай бұрын
America! Blame someone, sue someone, don’t take responsibility
@pattigoodale1766
@pattigoodale1766 Ай бұрын
Greed is what drives most treasure hunters. Greex blinds all reasoning. The human heart is desperately wicked.
@lindajohnson7675
@lindajohnson7675 Ай бұрын
Its not the challenge that kills. Its the obsession!
@sweetsugarjones
@sweetsugarjones Ай бұрын
That’s the truth. I do a local treasure hunt annually, which isn’t nearly as valuable or wild as Fenn’s was. It can definitely get in your brain and become compulsive behavior if you take it too seriously.
@edwinthomas618
@edwinthomas618 Ай бұрын
Wait..he could have stop.the madness. Free will. He is not responsible for those grown men (.in there right mind and body) to decide to risk their lives...they were
@luiscolon1781
@luiscolon1781 Ай бұрын
Idk.....maybe this "becca" needs to be investigated more......🤔
@lisaalbritton171
@lisaalbritton171 Ай бұрын
Please check that link out. It's in memory of my brother. Eric Ashby, it will show you all of the discoveries that we made investigating ourselves, and I'll show you all 4 people who were involved.
@trippylizzy1344
@trippylizzy1344 Ай бұрын
Forreal I was thinking the same thing about her
@trippylizzy1344
@trippylizzy1344 Ай бұрын
What gets me is the fact that Erics friends didnt stay and wait for police breaks my heart. Another great story 48 hours
@mtphill71
@mtphill71 Ай бұрын
New episode of Scooby Doo: The Curse of the Fenn Treasure. ZOINKS!
@philippamediwake1235
@philippamediwake1235 Ай бұрын
😂
@philipmcdonagh1094
@philipmcdonagh1094 Ай бұрын
That deserves a Scooby snack.
@markthomas3730
@markthomas3730 Ай бұрын
people always looking to put the blame on someone else...like rafting without a lifejacket, or treasure hunting in the winter, unprepared. ...stupid people doing stupid things.
@jolenewitzel7919
@jolenewitzel7919 Ай бұрын
Mr. Fenn did nothing wrong.
@shaungarthwaite133
@shaungarthwaite133 Ай бұрын
Such a lovely story!! And thank you 48 Hours and CBS!! Keep going!!
@JR-lw3ms
@JR-lw3ms Ай бұрын
Lovely?
@Drj-69
@Drj-69 Ай бұрын
Thank God the dog was OK.....
@RackySal
@RackySal Ай бұрын
That's what i said .. LMAO !!!! Blessings from St.Croix USVI
@user-gf4ne2lx5t
@user-gf4ne2lx5t Ай бұрын
Необычная, неоднозначная история! Слышу впервые, спасибо!
@Z8Q8
@Z8Q8 Ай бұрын
i wanted to go look too, but, NM is dangerous in more than 1 way. This is the 2nd National Treasure Hunt in America: Ggl "Treasure of the Golden Horse". About 20 yrs. ago a little Statue was buried, and you had to buy a small book that described its' location. Many people hunted for that 1 too! Did RU ever have a National Tr. Hunt, or just Scavenger Hunts??
@chayankhoidream
@chayankhoidream Ай бұрын
Что ж, тогда вы избавлены от этой горы конского дерьма. Всегда показывают одних и тех же людей, говорящих об одном и том же дерьме, и НИКАКИХ ОТВЕТОВ.
@chayankhoidream
@chayankhoidream Ай бұрын
нам надо весь отряд переодеть, и семечки им дать, и научить их стать гопник
@staffordlee1430
@staffordlee1430 Ай бұрын
Totally cool thing for Fenn to have done! Love it! For those who sadly lost their lives in pursuit of the treasure, they were adults who either knew the risks or under estimated the risks. Any person going on an adventure in the mountains, whether for a few hours or for days, whether in pursuit of buried treasure or peace and quiet, whether to prove something or experience a physical challenge, MUST be accountable to themselves! One must understand the terrain, go when its seasonally appropriate, go when the weather is forecast to be manageable, have some basic survival skills in their toolkit, be fit for the challenge of the ground & waterways they will encounter, and bring what might be needed should something unexpected occur. Americans used to be pioneers! We used to risk our lives for our dreams! Many of us died in pursuit of those dreams! God may have had issues w/ Fenn, but the treasure hunt and people dying in pursuit of finding the chest of gold was most certainly not one of them!
@rodrigos.4084
@rodrigos.4084 Ай бұрын
Old man fooled everyone 😂
@loricook6331
@loricook6331 Ай бұрын
Oh please. No one is to blame for someone else's unpreparedness. Nature is not always kind
@great-garden-watch
@great-garden-watch Ай бұрын
Why is that guy yelling throughout his interview
@7eyesopenwide168
@7eyesopenwide168 Ай бұрын
No the hunt shouldn’t stop. Fenn isn’t responsible.
@pioneercynthia1
@pioneercynthia1 Ай бұрын
I would never seek for this treasure. But to tell others not to? That's preposterous. Gambling (for just one example) destroys countless lives, literally and/or metaphorically, and yet normal folks don't really think, "Gambling killed my brother and destroyed our family. Shut it down."
@gemma4305
@gemma4305 Ай бұрын
Yuppie 👏 another episode!!! Thank you 48hours!!❤
@TawnyC_
@TawnyC_ Ай бұрын
Yuppie?
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Ай бұрын
​@@TawnyC_You know they meant "Yippie!" 😋
@TawnyC_
@TawnyC_ Ай бұрын
@@MEL2theJ Unlike you, I don't assume.
@Blaze02242
@Blaze02242 Ай бұрын
“Better is little with the fear of the LORD than great treasure and trouble therewith.”
@MegaSmk
@MegaSmk Ай бұрын
Who is this lord guy, and why should we fear him?
@gemmagem257
@gemmagem257 Ай бұрын
My eyes are stuck in the back of my head from the constant eye rolls. These people 🫠 can’t even continue watching this episode
@marksheehy4933
@marksheehy4933 Ай бұрын
He didn't find the treasure!!😂 It was a ruse.
@MrBobbo18
@MrBobbo18 Ай бұрын
Do we blame the mountain for having a beautiful peak BUT a dangerous route leading towards it?
@NorthBayFCT
@NorthBayFCT Ай бұрын
But someone placed gold at that peak… I think we are responsible for our own decisions, just wanted to point out that money and fame make people do weird things they normally wouldn’t do.
@baileyann180
@baileyann180 Ай бұрын
Everyone that went looking for this was an adult. Don’t blame this man after he’s already dead.
@ullgeologist
@ullgeologist Ай бұрын
Then we can’t blame those who died either, because they are dead as well.
@poojapatole3573
@poojapatole3573 Ай бұрын
@@ullgeologistim sure those who died would not blame Mr Fenn as well. They would have thanked him for this great adventure. The ones who are blaming are still alive
@susand4424
@susand4424 Ай бұрын
Forest Fenn is a wonderful person, had I known about this I would have went searching myself! Quite shocked that people are blaming him for the deaths, it seems they were all adults, who went out into the wildness without knowledge of the area, without correct supplies, without any outdoor/survival experience and without so much as a planned route. Hopefully this will inspire more people to get outside into nature but to be safe and gain the relevant experience first...
@chiefrcker
@chiefrcker Ай бұрын
Stupid people doing stupid things. No one to blame but the person they see when looking in the mirror. No one forced them in any way whatsoever to partake in the so called treasure hunt.
@aaronaustrie
@aaronaustrie Ай бұрын
I agree
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