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@gregwindell77025 ай бұрын
Forrest Fenn the professor the teacher the world Fenns students praying for Dee’s plagiarism is not allowed Forrest Fenns prestigious history world renowned international trademarked name a clue a hint who’s STORY is it too tell you have a right to remain silent a clue a hint Two can keep a secret Jack Stuef the department of the interior if one of them is dead Forrest Fenn a clue a hint Snow White a marvel gaze
@clarkkent37305 ай бұрын
isnt this an older episode? pretty sure we have all seen this one before already
@dianeferrentino27664 ай бұрын
😢
@tinker2027-h2t3 ай бұрын
@@clarkkent3730 i have on a webside i wtch us tv cus im in germany and the one i use is legal and have all my shows 😉🤩
@TheBanjopreacher5 ай бұрын
This is probably the only time I've visited the comment section and been reassured that there are still logical people in this world.
@MEL2theJ5 ай бұрын
I agree! I didn't know what to expect either? I too am pleased
@PianoGesang5 ай бұрын
You mean people that put on masks to hide their faces in public just b/c they were told to do?
@RonaldOBrian5 ай бұрын
Same here
@lindagoehlen2565 ай бұрын
Me too.
@Diametricallyopposed005 ай бұрын
Yep. 🙌🏻
@gregv28215 ай бұрын
The fact that anyone would even think to blame Fenn for their own misfortune, bad luck, or incompetence illustrates what a sorry state we're in as a society.
5 ай бұрын
The fact that a wealthy person would set this up , knowing how STUPID and GREEDY people can be , disgusts me.
@gregv28215 ай бұрын
You must not like the idea of living in a free society.
@Steven-kl6lh4 ай бұрын
You gonna blame all of society?..did you go?..me neither...99% of society didn't go...👎👎👎
@gregv28214 ай бұрын
@@Steven-kl6lh Our society is saturated with this notion that people are not responsible for their own behavior. The fact that “99% of society didn’t go” in no way dilutes or nullifies that fact. It’s a pretty simple observation and one that I think most people would agree with. At least most people who have been paying attention and can perform basic functions of reason.
@AccentYouLovingheart2 ай бұрын
A sorry state indeed. Look at us now in 8/24 🙄 Completely disgusting🤮😊
@rolfbernserke47355 ай бұрын
I’m missing the part where people were forced to search for the treasure.
@lflood845 ай бұрын
Same!! 🤦🏽♀️
@nuyorican1305 ай бұрын
I also agree but what if it were one of our family members, would we still agree?
@CherryBomb-pe5qm5 ай бұрын
Adults make their own decisions. They were willing to do crazy things for $$$.
@lflood845 ай бұрын
@@nuyorican130 I would. My dad and brother are relic hunters and they’re very passionate about it. If they wanted to do something really dangerous of course I would try to talk them out of it but they were smart and sensible and who am I to tell them to not do something that makes them truly happy?
@rolfbernserke47355 ай бұрын
@@nuyorican130 I would try to talk a family member out of it based on how dangerous that area of the country can be. Especially for the inexperienced ones who don’t realize what can happen. I certainly wouldn’t blame the gentleman who hid the treasure. Adults must take responsibility for their own actions.
@underdogmangalore5 ай бұрын
Those two who had 911 save them the first time but went back for more were the biggest idiots of all.
@ironmaven17605 ай бұрын
hahaha you got that right.
@allaboutrap15 ай бұрын
😂
@fluteloop67375 ай бұрын
Fatty thought the snowmobile was too heavy🤨
@IlonaOranje4 ай бұрын
And they should be charged for that!
@TechNSaved5 ай бұрын
He literally said, “don’t go anywhere a 70-80 year old man couldn’t go.” It’s not Fenn’s fault.
@nb-user255 ай бұрын
True!
@MEL2theJ5 ай бұрын
This comment is a treasure 💎
@kathysenn76645 ай бұрын
yes.. as soon as the story came to an end having watched Fenn's last interview, I thought, the treasure was somewhere close in proximity and to his heart. It was hidden in plain sight, not too far off a beaten path, a road less traveled .. someplace near and dear to him. Time and chance happens to us all. The poem has a Biblical ring to it, in my opinion. My heart is heavy for the loved ones who are mourning.. no words can alleviate their pain. 🤍🕊️ Come from Above.
@MEL2theJ5 ай бұрын
@@kathysenn7664 Beautifully put 🙏
@sandrabentley81115 ай бұрын
Actually he said..."79 to 80 year old....
@Treasuremonk5 ай бұрын
More people have died climbing Mount Everest, but no one has ever stopped that from happening
@leisastokes53586 күн бұрын
I think they did, the mountain is riddled with dead bodies.
@yonikki5 ай бұрын
So interesting how some of the treasure hunters weren't prepared for how "wild" the wilderness would be. Wild is literally the root word of WILDerness.
@lalang48065 ай бұрын
😂😂
@chatterbugmm5 ай бұрын
I was just thinking this. If i decided I was going to do something like this I’d be in wilderness survival classes, researching, training and make sure that I’m absolutely prepared before trying.
@Robin-xt7yo5 ай бұрын
I'm glad the helicopter nurse who rescued the little dog Leo adopted Leo. She seems very compassionate.
@tddstl31665 ай бұрын
Typical of the times: Adults blaming others for the poor choices of other adults.
@norakleps83445 ай бұрын
It’s like the gold rush Greed You take your chances knowing the risks involved
@stephanieshaffer41315 ай бұрын
Exactly
@titusvermont11045 ай бұрын
@user-fu2tj9cb3k People will always find ways to go looking for something and die because of it. Treasure, drugs, racing, adventure. They make the choice, they are responsible nobody else.
@gonavy15 ай бұрын
@user-fu2tj9cb3k so why you telling me that I don't really care?
@davidc38395 ай бұрын
It was not poor choices, it was life.
@AnjyStrong5 ай бұрын
I’m glad to learn there are still sensible people on yt. All those who died were adults and made their own choices. No one is to be blamed for their deaths. Condolences to their families though.
@beautifulrose86195 ай бұрын
Funniest line to me, Police: So you're out here because of a poem?
@andrewnajarian59945 ай бұрын
I love the officer’s reaction. “You’re saying a poem told you to break in here? Are you serious?!” 😂
@NevadaLamb5 ай бұрын
I missed that!! Now I have to rewatch the episode so I can hear that! 😂
@mamabrantingtherapist5 ай бұрын
I cracked up at that officers little chuckle...😂
@RackySal5 ай бұрын
@@NevadaLamb LMAO !!! I missed it tooo ...
@elizabethr41075 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@corkylloyd85255 ай бұрын
I know a woman in albuquerque who broke into her neighbor's yard and started digging...... She was completely off her rocke
@nofalsehero5 ай бұрын
We probably could have done without that cringey re-enactment of that lady's "Cougar Be-Gone" chant
@sweetsugarjones5 ай бұрын
I sort of liked it 🤷🏻♀️
@GummerHummerQueen5 ай бұрын
She had known Finn a while before that hike most likely by visiting his famous Museum with so much indigenous artifacts that. (Tho, I'm sure he pilfered most of it, people thought it & the FBI checked). She's possibly at least part Native American and the location of that museum was in the heart some tribes so she really wasn't bad at all because she either felt like she was represented in that or the museum that Finn owned and a lot of people loved. It's not disliked by as many people that you assumed might be🤷🏻♀️
@heidih30485 ай бұрын
uh why? Sorry you are so sensitive to "cringiness"
@Jeremiah_295 ай бұрын
"Cougar-be-gone chant." That is hilarious. 😂😂
@gingin123695 ай бұрын
😬 I definitely agree with that! It makes you wonder if it’s even true.
@horselover06275 ай бұрын
I worked in Wyoming during 2017 and participated in the treasure hunt for fun. There were a number of times where I could’ve made life-ending choices (crossing a high river, hiking without trails and encountering all types of wildlife) but I didn’t. I was prepared for the outdoors and made smart choices. I fully support Forrest’s decision to keep the hunt going on, and I believe people should not go outside for intensive expeditions without being prepared for it. Even at the time we heard about the people passing away and felt sorry for them, but still continued to prepare ourselves for anything we might have encountered while wandering in rugged terrain without cell phone service.
@CodenameDad5 ай бұрын
And he also said, it’s going to be where an 80 year old can get to it. Why tf are people white water rafting and climbing cliffs??
@chrissieroxba29495 ай бұрын
@@CodenameDadabsolutely!
@ironmaven17605 ай бұрын
Ok...please answer a question for me then..It appears, from hearing all the different spots that people started ( and in what state it was ultimately found) ..that this map trail spanned 3 states??? Utah, Colorado and Wyoming? My gosh that's incredible!
@heyyou-cy2lf5 ай бұрын
Forrest tried he said let's shut down Montana Wyoming and northern Colorado but they don't listen to me he said ! Wyoming Large praire place Corrumpa Wild and isolated Take it in SCENIC dri cimmeron byway down to Folsom falls also labeled corrumpa falls park in the OMEGA !
@bumblebee7777125 күн бұрын
@@heyyou-cy2lf I think it circled back to his back garden. 😂that's the only place an 80yrs old can go
@grinchthecat97195 ай бұрын
It is SO WEIRD that people are blaming this guy for everyone's death. Sign of the times.
@Livingforgiven5 ай бұрын
How so? If he didn't initiate this hunt, chances are those 5 people would still be alive. His game is the reason for their deaths. Yes, they chose to participate but his hunt is the reason they are gone. Since he knows where he hid it, he probably knew there would be some deaths. At minimal he could have reached out to the victims families and offered condolences.
@9290SC5 ай бұрын
@@Livingforgivennope. They CHOSE to participate. Just look at the terrain.... clearly not the most safe. They did it anyway. Sad but ... yeah
@EBR120 күн бұрын
@@Livingforgiven Those people had a choice. IF those people had chosen not to pursue the treasure, they would still be alive. They made stupid choices, unfortunately. Nobody forced them to go after that treasure. Also, bear in mind that these were ADULTS with agency, not children. They knew what they were doing and did it anyway. It's not the old man's fault.
@JenNJuice575 ай бұрын
Becca and whoever LEAVING after he fell in the water Blows my mind 🤯
@Rando_Shyte5 ай бұрын
That was the most tragic part for me. The father seems broken :(
@Rando_Shyte5 ай бұрын
Still not fair to blame Fenn for any of the deaths though
@ironmaven17605 ай бұрын
well...her name IS Becca 😂😂
@AustinHebrew5 ай бұрын
Absolutely sickening and cowardly
@hnr49945 ай бұрын
@@Rando_Shytedid he forced them ? No. Was he a decent human with empathy and stopped this on time ? Also no!
@ronhobbs20755 ай бұрын
People died mining for gold, mining for coal, drilling for oil, building the Hoover Dam, fighting in wars. I guess Paul would have petitioned his govt to end these endeavors, too. Paul had the longest relationship with his son. He raised him, molded him. However, strangers should have stopped his son?
@bumblebee7777125 күн бұрын
Exactly. He couldn't
@Stephanie84-lh6bf5 ай бұрын
Rebecca and the other 3 just went home? WOW. What a nice group of people.
@Findpepperbridge5 ай бұрын
First thing I was thinking…
@onaona.5 ай бұрын
Ikr 🤯
@mitchkora5 ай бұрын
@@Findpepperbridgeno family claimed the dog!
@robertdiengdoh5 ай бұрын
And they blamed an old men!!
@leslieleslie65905 ай бұрын
I thought alcohol and/or drugs had something to do with their search, which is why they left.
@mnnickol5 ай бұрын
Those so called friends all went home without waiting for the cops or continuing to search?! 😡
@heidih30485 ай бұрын
Weren't they just co-workers, actually, not actually friends?
@gabrielawoolman43165 ай бұрын
I am so glad the little dog was rescued and found a forever home with the sweet nurse who found him!
@joancarrino8905 ай бұрын
I'm with you if people want to do stupid things they shouldn't take their pets with them I'm glad the dog made it he's really the treasure
@bonniemaecather5 ай бұрын
@@joancarrino890I have always thought the same!
@voyaristika56735 ай бұрын
When I saw where that was going I fast forwarded because of the dog, so I was glad to see your comment. Relieved. His owner really loved him but you made me feel better about the outcome. Sad stuff.
@margaridavelhinho16182 ай бұрын
And I am surprised that a sister that says she loves and misses her brother did not want to keep that beautiful little dog, the last living beieing with whom her brother was!! I just can not believe it.
@el7jakeАй бұрын
@@margaridavelhinho1618It may have been too painful of a reminder of her brother for her.
@MTSN-hp9th5 ай бұрын
I think Delmar in "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" said it best: "DO NOT! SEEK! THE TREASURE!"
@chrissieroxba29495 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing every time they were talking about “seeking the treasure “! 😂
@hubes965 ай бұрын
Fenn didn’t make these people go look for the treasure! Fenn didn’t make them do risky chances during their search. He buried a treasure for people to have fun with and try and figure the poem out and get out in nature and look for the treasure. It sounds like some of the people went out and took risky chances searching for the treasure. Just because these people let their greed take over them using common sense while searching for the treasure. Sounds like these people over extended their abilities to get this treasure. Thats on them, not the person who hid the treasure and made a poem to tell its location. It’s the same as if someone opened of a zoo and let people visit their zoo, and someone leaned to far over the railing of the lion exhibit trying to get a picture or the best picture of a lion and they fell in the enclosure and a lion does what a lion is supposed to as an epex predator and eats the person who fell in. Is it the zoo’s fault that person let common sense out of the equation and leaned too far into the lion enclosure and fell in and was killed
@bellachannell7775 ай бұрын
🎯
@mariawestman90265 ай бұрын
I agree with Fenn is not killing these people But , When nature is killing these humans .. and nobody have found the golden treasure yet I’m not sure there is a treasure to find out there ! We have some photos and his words only and have he ever told how much it is worth ? If it’s even possible to find after so many years ? Remember the lady who been out there for many, many YEARS and spent over 65.000 dollars and didn’t find it ??? Someone should check out if the “golden treasure” is real and if it’s still there !!! Fenn should take someone trustworthy a lawyer or something like that and then go and check for himself ! Maybe the treasure” isn’t in the desert ? Until some of the questions are answered they SHOULD put this adventure on hold ! Bc it’s dangerous.
@CheerfulAlien-bf1kp5 ай бұрын
🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠you spoke the damn truth🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
@madrush245 ай бұрын
💯
@sylvia1065 ай бұрын
Apex*
@No_Flo_5 ай бұрын
The whole point was to get families out in the wilderness. Everyone who searched for that treasure did so at their own risk. There is no conspiracy and these unfortunate deaths were caused by negligence or inexperience.
@Ratalie20075 ай бұрын
umm no one needs "treasure" to go out and explore. Just do it at your own free will. Bet you more than half of those people hate the outdoors.
@No_Flo_5 ай бұрын
@@Ratalie2007 Ummm I didn’t say they did.
@MrBobbo185 ай бұрын
@@Ratalie2007some people obviously do. If they hated the outdoors they would need something to push them into it. Weird comment
@nanaberry41205 ай бұрын
@@Ratalie2007Ah, yes… the condescending “umm”… meant make you look superior. Epic fail.
@rockstarphantom81125 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, communal discourse is the real treasure 😂
@christyaustin48335 ай бұрын
One look at that picture on the good nurse's face as she cradled the doggo after his rescue and I smiled and thought, "Foster fail, incoming!" Awesome : )
@spencerhonda74455 ай бұрын
People need to take responsibility. These were grown adults and assumed the risk. It is a shame people died, but blaming Fenn is ABSURD.
@TynesheiaLively-ww2tl5 ай бұрын
*accountability but yes agreed lol
@admirallily5 ай бұрын
If people need to take responsibility as you say then that includes Fenn as well as the people who went along with it.
@IlonaOranje4 ай бұрын
If they were responsible in the first place, they wouldn't have done that. lol
@Klara-Hvar5 ай бұрын
I can't believe the question of the show is basically "Why didn't Fenn call off the search?" It's people's decision to take risks or not... and there are plenty of tragic cases of people taking risks without anyone "incentivizing/inviting/organizing/whatever".
@kathrynr.70655 ай бұрын
"The hunt claimed three more lives." "Mother nature claimed three more ill-prepared peoples' lives." I fixed it.
@pegasusgenesis3605 ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@projectionv.accountability10105 ай бұрын
Yes, you did! Thank you for your service. 😂
@theoryofpersonality14205 ай бұрын
That's what's up
@michellek20575 ай бұрын
Survival of the fittest - Mother Nature
@marivipalomino69755 ай бұрын
I like it better 😉
@Therezumee925 ай бұрын
So people make their choices and it's his fault? Not a fan of rich ''eccentrics'', but there's still personal responsibility. People need some self awareness and common sense.
@michaelmoss59765 ай бұрын
Once the poem was penned and published, there was no calling it off. They even said after it was found: People are still trying to find the place it was. WAS.
@johng40935 ай бұрын
Word is some of the treasure was inadvertently left behind...ok, I just made that up.
@mervin_prolific33035 ай бұрын
Really unfair to blame fenn for these people choices, all you had to do was not go
@SticksAandstonesBozo5 ай бұрын
The insane amount of books , podcasts and docs I watch and listen too and still I find a story I haven’t heard about. Always blows my mind.
@kelzlondon21385 ай бұрын
Call me a pessimist , but I dont think i really would have believed there was any treasure in the first place lol
@suyen49995 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts too 😂
@ianmcclory92975 ай бұрын
I further that notion!!
@susanwaldron68315 ай бұрын
I thought that was going to be the ending. Fenn admitting that he'd just made it up for fun.
@fastcat36065 ай бұрын
There was no treasure, it was all a scam. why he didn't even reveal how the alleged poem clues led to the location.
@Veronica7055 ай бұрын
I thought that from the beginning. I'm searching the comments to find out if I'm right.😂
@wegotbrent5 ай бұрын
There's a reason he won't say where he found it. If he makes up a location, someone out there will be able to say they've looked there and it wasn't there.
@Wildrover825 ай бұрын
No reason to call off the hunt because people are idiots. They were adults.
@49ers_red_and_gold25 ай бұрын
LoL
@MejustMe19905 ай бұрын
Exactly ❤
@ceilconstante6405 ай бұрын
If you buy a raft, you also need to invest in a life preserver and maybe do a few trips with a professional tour that routinely works those rivers.
@beaulieuc89105 ай бұрын
nonsense, it was a stupid hunt
@juliaperry1375 ай бұрын
The treasure was found in 2020 in Wyoming.
@fluteloop67375 ай бұрын
Funniest bit of the story was Big Mike blaming the snowmobile for being too heavy
@gr8-fun1625 ай бұрын
Fenn said it's in a place where a 70 or 80 year old man could go.... so, clearly, snowmobiles are needed and the treasure should be easy to find under a few feet of snow.....
@fluteloop67375 ай бұрын
@@gr8-fun162 lol, yeah, that too
@km43365 ай бұрын
So these adults heard of others dying and still decided to go searching for this treasure
@horacio-ho3bf5 ай бұрын
People die in national parks, on mountains, and on the highway every day....and in their beds
@tamielizabethallaway24135 ай бұрын
Excellent point! They hadn't just heard of a treasure hunt, they heard of a treasure hunt where people had died searching for it! Then thought, *"I can do this! I got a badge for wild camping when I was a boy scout! Ok it was over 40 years ago, and with supervision, and true I've never done it since... But I know I can do this! SHEILA....SHEILAAAAA...do you know where my flip flops are? I'm going out for a gentle stroll"* 🙄
@beaulieuc89105 ай бұрын
yes that was stupid
@philipmcdonagh10945 ай бұрын
Every time there's a flood or an avalanche on the news there's always some idiot out swimming or with a surf board or snow board looking for a quick thrill.
@denny4145 ай бұрын
Greed boredom and disposable income of the rich or well off
@staffordlee14305 ай бұрын
Totally cool thing for Fenn to have done! Love it! For those who sadly lost their lives in pursuit of the treasure, they were adults who either knew the risks or under estimated the risks. Any person going on an adventure in the mountains, whether for a few hours or for days, whether in pursuit of buried treasure or peace and quiet, whether to prove something or experience a physical challenge, MUST be accountable to themselves! One must understand the terrain, go when its seasonally appropriate, go when the weather is forecast to be manageable, have some basic survival skills in their toolkit, be fit for the challenge of the ground & waterways they will encounter, and bring what might be needed should something unexpected occur. Americans used to be pioneers! We used to risk our lives for our dreams! Many of us died in pursuit of those dreams! God may have had issues w/ Fenn, but the treasure hunt and people dying in pursuit of finding the chest of gold was most certainly not one of them!
@JenNJuice575 ай бұрын
Even if Fenn called off the search I believe people would still go look for it and BELIEVE it's still there.
@theemptyone76505 ай бұрын
Probably, there are still some people out there looking for the treasure
@ABC-ed8cg4 ай бұрын
If it’s still there, Fenn would take it all for himself if he knows the location. Why would he reveal the location.
@trippylizzy13445 ай бұрын
What gets me is the fact that Erics friends didnt stay and wait for police breaks my heart. Another great story 48 hours
@yonikki5 ай бұрын
Were these "victims" forced to go on this treasure hunt? Am I missing something?
@gemmagem2575 ай бұрын
My eyes are stuck in the back of my head from the constant eye rolls. These people 🫠 can’t even continue watching this episode
@davidc38395 ай бұрын
The fact that people die looking for this treasure lies on the shoulders of the person who died. They chose to take on this quest and I'm sure enjoyed the process. People die trying to get to the top of mountains. They have not banned mountaineering.
@susand44245 ай бұрын
Forest Fenn is a wonderful person, had I known about this I would have went searching myself! Quite shocked that people are blaming him for the deaths, it seems they were all adults, who went out into the wildness without knowledge of the area, without correct supplies, without any outdoor/survival experience and without so much as a planned route. Hopefully this will inspire more people to get outside into nature but to be safe and gain the relevant experience first...
@RebeccaLizEve5 ай бұрын
I cannot wrap my head around, blaming someone for another’s poor decision- If someone goes rock, climbing and slips and falls, are we going to take the rock away? So absurd.
@admirallily5 ай бұрын
I can’t understand people justifying his poor decisions because other people also made poor decisions.
@G4NoChallenge5 ай бұрын
totally weird and not logical that a guy finds the treasure and wants to remain anonymous and does not cash it in. This episode should have examined if the 'treasure' really was treasure, was really hidden or was it all a publicity/ego scam by Forrest and he connected with a guy to hide his scam to protect his family after his death.
@good1day7265 ай бұрын
Very good points. Or give it a part II. Instead we get no discussion in the show and hundreds of comments expressing the same sentiment about not wanting to blame the treasure author. Okay fine, but what’s the real story...
@sharonsmith98175 ай бұрын
How ridiculous to blame Fenn he didn’t force them to search for the treasure their own greed did.
@admirallily5 ай бұрын
One could argue his greed for notoriety was why he REFUSED to call off the hunt.
@mschaieme5 ай бұрын
I am proud of these comments . Thank God we still have hope in humanity because blaming frenn is ridiculous
@davidc38395 ай бұрын
The man who hid this treasure was older. He would not have been rafting down white water rapids to hide his treasure, so why venture out on them, however, we all weigh up the risks we are willing to take, whether treasure hunting, climbing, or canoeing. The responsibility lies with the risk taker.
@nicolaxoxo15 ай бұрын
Fenn definitely told people it was not hidden anywhere an 70 year old man could not easily go…,..so they were needlessly searching in dangerous locations
@daphnelackington52433 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@cmonman76645 ай бұрын
Anybody that dies in a plane crash, just blame the Wright Brothers.
@kathyorourke92735 ай бұрын
All the people who died went searching voluntarily.
@dk18285 ай бұрын
Why is this even on 48 Hours? There’s absolutely no story to this episode…so some people CHOSE to go out searching for “treasure” that may or may not exist. I went on a hike today…
@TheKnitch5 ай бұрын
It was found in 2020. Sold for around $1.3M.
@meredithcoleman4465 ай бұрын
@@TheKnitch He only sold some of the pieces. Pretty cool 😎
@dawondjones5 ай бұрын
They don’t stop people from climbing Everest or any other thrill adventures
@heidih30485 ай бұрын
It seems that it is mainly the families and friends of those who died who are blaming Fenn. The rest of us, seemingly regardless of background, and political affiliation, can easily see that it is not Fenn's fault that these adults chose to search for his treasure and went into it ill-prepared and /or had freak accidents while searching.
@fungfrancis71565 ай бұрын
I don't see anything wrong with Mr. Fenn. Nobody is forcing you to commit into the treasure hunt. If you blame others, you still have a long way to go. If you blame yourself, you are halfway there. If you blame no one, you have arrived. -- Ancient Proverb
@fungfrancis71565 ай бұрын
Mel Fisher spent 17 years looking for a 400-year-old sunken treasure. He sold his California business and moved to Florida. For years, he found nothing, and was called by skeptics as madman, conman and joker, but when he found the sunken ship, its gold and silver coins yielded $500+ million. People who invested in him said, Mel Fisher’s perseverance is as precious as pure gold.
@caroleminke61165 ай бұрын
Mel Fisher also got his kids involved & lost a son as well as daughter in law along with an employee in a terrible boat accident just for the love of a treasure that he couldn’t take with him in the end. Some lessons don’t ever get learned. Greed is truly the downfall of humanity. Our existence on Earth is in peril because of it. Nature didn’t sign up for our recklessness & lack of accountability. Neither did our progeny ❤️🩹
@fungfrancis71565 ай бұрын
@@caroleminke6116 I understand. Some people like the challenge, though.
@chrissieroxba29495 ай бұрын
@@caroleminke6116very well said!
@terripebsworth96235 ай бұрын
Finn told people clearly that the treasure was somewhere an 89 yr old man could easily walk to. Those who died used poor judgement by venturing into risky areas (some even alone) and some in risky weather conditions, places Finn had already said the treasure would not be found. The greed or idiocracy of those people led to their demise. I'm glad that the treasure was real or at least so it seems. Also, Finn didn't invent the idea of treasure hunting. Humans have engaged in that for probably thousands of years and hundreds or thousands have died in that pursuit, like in the gold rush era. Treasure hunting is always an 'enter at your own risk' activity, just like mountain climbing, skydiving, car racing, and many other activities which no one would consider banning for safety reasons. People have the right to risk their own safety. It's called freedom.
@user-gq3ip8kr5r5 ай бұрын
I was just about to write the exact same thing! And he said it was an absolutely gorgeous place! But people were down in dark caves and climbing ugly rocks 🫤😣
@montanaelkwhisperer17445 ай бұрын
i live in the Bitterroot valley of Montana. the Bitterroot river kills rafters every year....year after year after year. we've already had two river deaths this year, and i't not even summer yet. nobody blames the state, and they just keep coming.
@TheGooglyminotaur5 ай бұрын
Sunday, the day after the deadly storms that hit Texas, Arkansas, and Oklahoma, a man where I live decided to go kayaking by himself. Most of the town didn’t have power and there were no available emergency services (they were trying to rescue people who did not choose to be in danger). He drowned about 20 feet from where he started. I feel bad for his family. I can’t help but judging the man’s decision. What the hell was he thinking?
@Alphacentauri8195 ай бұрын
@@TheGooglyminotaurso, so often, people (especially certain types), overestimate their abilities and underestimate reality/risks. The inability to see one’s own ignorance and vulnerabilities (awareness) is a major root cause of these types of tragic (yet often preventable) losses.
@Jackietreehorn-z5e5 ай бұрын
I just left Montana..beautiful. I didn't risk my life doing anything there.
@montanaelkwhisperer17445 ай бұрын
@@Jackietreehorn-z5e that you know of!
@fluteloop67375 ай бұрын
People wouldn't die in that river if it weren't for climate change
@dragonflybeads9682Ай бұрын
Literally everyone raised in the West know that the weather and terrain are formidable. You go prepared - ALWAYS.
@anthonysemaj84905 ай бұрын
How is that man blamed for grown sane peoples decisions? miss me with the bs
@projectionv.accountability10105 ай бұрын
Honestly.
@kentuky12335 ай бұрын
Sane people?
@MariaEOD5 ай бұрын
It keeps pissing me off when they keep saying “Fenn should’ve called it off”! Like really?! You think someone really is gonna stop hiking and hunting just bc he tells them to stop?! Yeah right!!
@7eyesopenwide1685 ай бұрын
No the hunt shouldn’t stop. Fenn isn’t responsible.
@kentuky12335 ай бұрын
The more disturbing thing about this is the amount of emergency resources these common sense challenged people wasted for no rational reason.
@chrislastname19945 ай бұрын
Its appalling how ill-prepared and unequipped people are to be in the wild.
@MusgraveRitual5 ай бұрын
The guy who was surprised that things in the wilderness are much larger than they appear on the map says all you need to know whose fault it was if something bad happens. I don't think people realize how dangerous and unforgiving the wilderness is - you are always one small foot injury away from death if you are not prepared for plan B, C, D and F. Mr. Fenn came up with interesting and fun idea. It was not his fault some people went into it driven by ego and greed.
@diannemose2445 ай бұрын
Exactly
@heidih30485 ай бұрын
yes. The pure stupidity
@isabellegarcia92055 ай бұрын
Im so sorry for the loss of these brave men, who died doing what made them happy.😢🙏🏼
@phiakate5 ай бұрын
Erics death was questionable.
@kimmymarshall42575 ай бұрын
Thought i was the only person tht realised tht
@AskAlex19995 ай бұрын
Sounds more like homicide.
@MEL2theJ5 ай бұрын
Ugh! And the fact that he was contracted to receive 51% of the treasures value out of the group of four or five people
@kimmymarshall42575 ай бұрын
@@MEL2theJ yup, tht really caught my eye
@divyapbr5 ай бұрын
yes
@ladayaowens46655 ай бұрын
Fenn loves the thrill of seeing people chase something. There could be a bigger meaning to this message.
@katewoolf60595 ай бұрын
I don't want to live in a culture where adults blame others like this
@AmateurAthleteAllDay5 ай бұрын
Welcome to the real world.
@theoryofpersonality14205 ай бұрын
@AmateurAthleteAllDay those people don't live in the real world
@angelamccrackin52435 ай бұрын
So long...
@Alphacentauri8195 ай бұрын
Blame is an avoidance tactic…it’s often to avoid feeling a painful emotion. We are very averse to feeling, sitting with, anxiety, sadness, grief. Our distress tolerance is poor. Blame is a way to attempt to shift that onto someone or something else
@johng40935 ай бұрын
@@Alphacentauri819Agree, anger towards someone else is preferable to helpless grief.
@atomant8305 ай бұрын
Part of being an adult in America means you have the freedom to make choices and live with or die from the consequences. That said, to the loved ones of the people who perished, I'm sorry for your loss.
@TheLastDragon55 ай бұрын
"My friend/relative was greedy and died. So it's your fault" Summary of this entire episode. Fenn just wants people to develop a relationship with nature again
@johng40935 ай бұрын
Agree but it's not just greed, reasons include adventure, solving a mystery, public recognition, etc.
@shelteredsparrow27365 ай бұрын
As a mother of 4 Marines I am not sure. We were also missionaries who lived through almost being ambushed and living through a major earthquake that just about took the life of my baby. My heart breaks for them for here are people who are in tremendous grief. I do believe in personal choice. I think too nothing drives someone more than being told no. My heart though breaks for them. I do so know where they are coming from in wanting it canceled. They could be right I am so sorry for the pain of those who have lost someone. I rarely told my children not to do something because that would be the thing that they would want to do. If they stopped it you could actually make it more dangerous. There was a time when I had brought a can of black olives to a meeting of 6 missionaries. I took one and realized it was spoiled. I told them to not them. Every missionary grabbed one because I said not to If they had stopped it it could have made it all the more something to do possibly. But I might be wrong. I am not in a place to make that decision. that doesn’t help someone in severe grief I am so so sorry for your loss
@lethafarmer86695 ай бұрын
When we shut down everything that is a risk we’ll all be living in a prison. Go out and take a risk. Get hurt, learn a lesson, have an adventure.
@353Chaos3535 ай бұрын
And take reasonable safety precautions while doing so! 😀
@dotucker40825 ай бұрын
I feel bad that the father lost his son. But your son made a crucial mistake by not wearing a LIFE VEST!!! Was Fenn supposed to give clues on safety guide lines.
@cheetoesgal52295 ай бұрын
@user-fu2tj9cb3kGod, give me strength. No, Fenn did NOT have a duty of care as to how these participants freely and willingly engaged in the treasure hunt. Your mindset is the very reason why, for example, manufacturers of microwaves have to print a warning label of "PLEASE DO NOT MICROWAVE YOUR BABY OR YOUR PET". People need to learn accountability and responsibility for their own actions, and use their noggin for something other than a hat racket!
@travelwithtony57675 ай бұрын
This is one of those stories where half of me believes that this story is real, while the other half of me believes it didn’t. What I can say with absolute certainty is that it was a fascinating story and that I appreciate it being shared with everyone. 👍😎
@Letsberealish5 ай бұрын
It was a complete hoax by a guy who wanted favors from women. Thats it.
@fluteloop67375 ай бұрын
@@Letsberealishhuh??
@Letsberealish5 ай бұрын
@@fluteloop6737 It was a hoax. He wanted the attention from women who would otherwise never pay attention to him.
@fluteloop67375 ай бұрын
@@Letsberealish how'd you get that from this story??
@nicann75 ай бұрын
It was found in 2020
@justmeandmypreferences5 ай бұрын
It's wild to me that the treasure owner is blamed instead of the greed or addiction to adventure of the searchers.
@joajoajoaquin5 ай бұрын
They rent snow bikes, they get stuck, they have to be rescued. Next week: they rent snow bikes, they get stuck, rescue arrives off time, one dies. Let’s blame Mr Fenn.
@Orroz445 ай бұрын
And with barely any food and water. smh
@gr8-fun1625 ай бұрын
Indeed. Because the treasure would be far to easy to find on a nice summer day. The intent was that it was meant to be a challenge, to find it under a blanket of snow. That's how a 70 or 80 year old man would hide it. Using a snowmobile and risking his life, that should it break down, he would not make it back. Very common with old men, to ride a snowmobile alone into remote wilderness places..... geez.
@kimberlygreen1275 ай бұрын
Im so glad fenn stood his ground..im shocked it wasn't more ppl
@hekter23645 ай бұрын
I love how they kept blaming Fenn for people's own stupidity.
@monikatoth56975 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I was about to say... not caring enough water or falling off the cliff, then blaming Fenn for their own stupidity. No one told or forced them to go out bc of their own greed.
@beaulieuc89105 ай бұрын
he organised the stupid hunt
@n.g.l.5 ай бұрын
@@beaulieuc8910was it a law to conduct the search? No, then you do it at your own cost.
@stevetrivago5 ай бұрын
@@beaulieuc8910 Are you a Biden supporter?
@cathyprosser10505 ай бұрын
Because most people refuse to take responsibility for their own stupidity. It's always someone else's fault. It's been going on since Eve ate the apple 🍎 😊
@BearJwG5 ай бұрын
I always felt his real intentions were to get people into nature. Life experience is the true gold. Any poor decisions people made along the way are not his fault.
@katebowers81075 ай бұрын
“No life preserver” Poor choice, Eric.
@HKim00725 ай бұрын
These people have no concept of math and distance / sizes. The probability of finding a 1 foot wide object somewhere in the Rockies is about the same probability of finding a specific grain of sand on the beach.
@tybrooks41125 ай бұрын
America! Blame someone, sue someone, don’t take responsibility
@RevLeigh555 ай бұрын
It’s very sad that some people are greedy enough to die for gold.
@johnphillips94155 ай бұрын
My only concern here did the treasure really exist?
@Angela-ne9cy5 ай бұрын
It did - someone found it in 2020 and eventually sold it for $1.3 million.
@mariawestman90265 ай бұрын
@@Angela-ne9cyokay. So he gaved it away 😂😂😂 I wonder where you got this information from ? I like to read it too. 🙏❤️
@luiscolon17815 ай бұрын
@@Angela-ne9cy wheres the facts?
@Nanilethu5 ай бұрын
Yes! It was found in 2020.
@mariawestman90265 ай бұрын
@@Nanilethu and I didn’t know about the treasure until right now when 48 hours released the story 😂😂😂 How many people have died when searching for it ? Do you know ?
@skrause19695 ай бұрын
People have free will. Fenn is absolutely not responsible for people deciding to go on an adventure knowing there was an element of danger. Just like the friends of Eric. They should have stayed to talk to the authorities but it wasn’t their job to “stop” him as the father mentioned. I feel the pain of the families but their adult relatives and friends chose on their own free will to do this and for most, it wasn’t about the money but for notoriety, AKA, ego. 😢
@BlockchainToTheFace5 ай бұрын
It baffles me, There are so many idiots in this world. How are you going to blame someone else for something YOU did?
@angelamccrackin52435 ай бұрын
Everytime is listen to 48 hours intro i know i am in for an intresting story....thanks so much..
@sandispady90585 ай бұрын
I don’t see how one can place blame on Fenn for choices other adults make. Absolutely crazy. Some people like adventure and WANT to take the risk.
@JuT-z2s5 ай бұрын
These are adults making their own choices without any pressure. Sad but not exceptional. Not hearing much about blaming drug dealers for adults making bad choices.
@malalamalala67695 ай бұрын
We have devolved as a society when we blame another for the decisions we make freely.
@heidih30485 ай бұрын
Look at the comments here-- no one is blaming Fenn. We all have common sense. And viewers of this channel come from all backgrounds and political affiliations. Blaming Fenn is just what the families and friends of the people who died do in order to avoid blaming their loved one for going in ill-prepared, or having no one to blame, and admitting that people die by accident sometimes.
@philipmcdonagh10945 ай бұрын
yea like suing the manufacturer of a ladder when you fall of it.
@hanselpollack40755 ай бұрын
The outstanding thought to me is: where is the proof the treasure actually exists? Are we taking this man’s word for it exclusively? Is it worth lives, money, or even time without a guarantee? After Madoff, and Sam Bankman-Fried nothing should be believed without a thoroughly detailed proof.
@jujuubug51635 ай бұрын
Was found in 2020 by Jack stuef June 6 in Wyoming if I remember correctly 🤔
@avasd595 ай бұрын
Did you guys even watch the video? All of this is mentioned at the end
@thearts315 ай бұрын
I completely understand how grief will make you blame others because the mind is looking for a way to make sense of what can't be accepted. People never want to hold their deceased loved ones accountable for their part in their own demise. These were adults who made their own choices and it didn't go in their favor. Thats on them. Going on these hunts alone was irresponsible and foolish. They knew the risks before and after people died and went anyway.
@ruthmelicharles50625 ай бұрын
Fenn didn't pull the treasure hunt. But people didn't have to continue searching for his treasure. The searchers are the ones to be blamed!
@raggamuffin26825 ай бұрын
To blame this man is bs
@voyaristika56735 ай бұрын
Thrill seekers die regularly taking "foolish" risks that are made available by others. That man's son went into rapids in a raft with no life jacket? The most experienced rafters don't do that, and still accidents happen. Everyone is sad for those who lost a loved one, but Fenn isn't at fault for unprepared adventurers' mistakes.
@edwinthomas6185 ай бұрын
Wait..he could have stop.the madness. Free will. He is not responsible for those grown men (.in there right mind and body) to decide to risk their lives...they were
@JonBlackstone4 ай бұрын
Through all of history thousands have died while searching for treasure. Fenn has no blame in this matter. The searchers knew the risk and decided a million dollars was worth dying for. Fenn is not a villain and the searchers aren’t heroes. This episode is a vivid example of people refusing to take responsibility for their bad decisions; and their families refusing to accept how selfish their loved ones were to take the risk.
@Makeup_momster5 ай бұрын
I’m half way thru but I’m surprised no one kidnapped the old Man and made him tell Them.
@moniqueengleman8735 ай бұрын
You have an evil but brilliant mind.🎉
@poojapatole35735 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@Femalosity5 ай бұрын
This was also my thought 5 minutes in!
@selinakwamini8254 ай бұрын
Same😅
@ChristaTomlinsonRomanceAuthor5 ай бұрын
Came here to see if other people thought it was silly to blame Fenn for the treasure hunters' deaths and I see everyone feels the same way. I'm sorry they lost their lives but it was a risk they chose to take. Was also trying to think what this reminded me of and realized that FOX/ABC 911 did an episode based on this!
@jolenewitzel79195 ай бұрын
Mr. Fenn did nothing wrong.
@MoroMoro15 ай бұрын
I dont blame Fenn for any of the treasure hunting deaths. Even if the treasure hunt ended, the treasure poem was still out there, and people were going to attempt to find it regardless. The end of the video even says that people are still out there trying to find the location, even though its already been found. Adults made the decision with their own free will to hike and hunt through dangerous terrain in the hopes of finding hidden treasure. That Barbara Anderson lady getting soo mad that someone else found the treasure that she sued to make Fenn's family reveal the identify of the person who found the treasure is insane.